6 years later, I am seeing this. I work at a lead acid battery factory. I am a cell burner, so I line up the positive and negative plates and melt the posts with the terminals on them to the plates. But we make large industrial batteries where the individual cells weigh 25 to 240 pounds each. I enjoy it, and I enjoyed this video Cody. Thank you
@@iowafarmboy yes, I'm aware they do... molten lead doesn't have a high vapor pressure at it's melting point (327°C), so the main concern isn't the vapor, but lead oxide dust (the paste coated on the plates). But on a large scale, there's considerable exposure.... they're tested for it over the course of a few months. Exaust fans and such are used to protect them.
@Belal Motawe Really cheap ass shit for spamming an advertisement in like that. Really slick, you complete and total tool. Please, nobody Google "Magic Mender Wizard", or give them one dollar of your money. Go spend money on advertising, shit head.
Best person for a post apocalyptic world to restart this planet. Happy, energetic, kind, thoughtful, smart and a troubleshooter. Plus, he works hard, and that's the most important part.
@@NwoDispatcher The answer is, have them participate from the time that they start developing an attention span and teach them everything you know as they grow up! It isn't rocket science... - Max Giganteum
@@NwoDispatcher I was in the garage when my grandpa was diluting sulfuric acid to fill his car battery. I helped in demolishing and building the house. Just have kids hang around instead of going to school. School is just conditioning to obey and bullying.
Interesting video. From what I'm reading in the comments section of a lot of other videos, the reason to use sulfuric acid is because it freezes at a much lower temp than epsom salts etc. So low freezing point is a factor to consider here. Before watching your vid, I assumed the lead plates in batteries were simply thin squares of pure lead. Now I know they are a lot more complicated than that, I realize making or reconditioning an automotive battery is no simple matter.
Cody, thanks for the videos. They are entertaining and... well... I've learned a lot. I really enjoy how you do this stuff from odds and ends you have rather than running to the store every five minutes and buying things. Please keep it up.
quite sure i was reading Megaohms on that multimeter not ohms XD, and btw usually multimeters can't give the proper resistence when you test directly the battery, try using a known resistor in series then measure the current passing through it, measure the voltage, then you just have to solve V=(Rr+Rb)*I => Rb=V/I-Rr that works much better and gives you a kinda accurate value of internal resistence of the battery
Best video yet that I've found so far, for this type of hands on information. I'm thinking about making my own batteries. Just trying to understand what is involved, it's videos like this that will save me time & money. Thanks
Nice tutorial, I did something similar a few years back, sort of a DIY solar charger and battery experiment, good work. I did find the irony a bit funny though with a tutorial about building a battery, right at a bank of batteries, near a generator, and your cam's battery dead ;)
Lmao I love how you have your pre-properly-done solar panel, the ancestor of your current one. I've watched you forever now, and I really envy your lifestyle. Keep being a cool guy man, and keep making stuff you find interesting!
Geez, that wrench you laid up by the batteries (around 17:30) is nearly giving me a heart attack. If it shorts across the terminals bad things could happen in a *flash*.
this video could be a guide of how to make this style of video, because he's giving us important information that people tend to forget. like telling us that a 12v battery charges at 14.4 volts, something most people forget to mention. or showing the plates and talking about surface area. these are very helpful for someone who didn't know this, instead of just saying there's lead plates and it's a 12v, battery charger. of course eventually people find these things out on their own but when you're totally clueless little things like that make a difference in understanding it. if i didn't know and i was charging something and then i measured it at 14.4 volts from the charger i might start to worry.
That was totally awesome, and I believe it was one of your best videos yet! I think you are really improving a lot on your video-making skills and editing skills as well!
I've read MANY of the comments and answered a few. It seems to me that many people are just lazy and don't/won't do any of their own research. Some are just ridiculous like the one below about using mercury for a battery. Cody can't be expected to spend enormous amounts of time reading and answering questions from people that are to lazy to gain a basic understanding of the topic. Granted; schools don't teach much well anymore, but, i think it was Edison that said, if you read about something for 15mins. a day, within a year you'll be an expert! And i've found that to be true. With Google and the internet, if you can read, you can learn anything. With RUclips you don't even need to be able to read well. You just have to be willing to put in the time and effort.
Instead of quoting a mistake and emphasizing on it, you would do well in explaining, that Voltage is measured in volts, and Current is measured in Ampere. Voltage is the potential / level, and Ampère is the amount of current in the thread. The effect you get out is calculated by Volt times Ampere...
If only that was the biggest mistake in this video... During his explanation in the first couple minutes of the video, he didn't even get the reaction right.
Thanks for solving one mystery for me. I always wondered why people do not recycle lead acid batteries. Melt the lead and make it new. I melt lead as a child too. But as you proved, obtaining performance is not child play. I will not complain anymore that batteries are expensive.
Great video. There are declassified Navy training videos that go into detail on how the chemical reaction works on RUclips. These videos were very informative.
40 odd years ago we made lead acid batteries for our 7th grade physical science class. As I remember it we used lead foil rolled between sheets of heavy construction paper. I'm guessing Nannystate would frown upon that these days.
Have you ever built Copper Aluminum batteries? I've seen interesting videos about them in the past and would love to see your take on them. Thanks for making all the great content!
If you take children out of their failing schools and send them off to people like Cody only one day a week, my educated guess is that you would see a marked improvement in the future for not only the children but maybe we could start filling high paying jobs (many go unfilled) with these better educated young adults.
And that's the principle of proposals to seriously reform the education system. Take the idea of learning effectively from people with real skills and experiences, and place it in a safe, regulated framework.
i dont think you can measure the internal resistance of a battery with an ohmmeter like that? considering the meter does the measurement by applying a voltage across the resistance to be tested. (your meter appears to say megaohms, not ohms)
The Ohmmeter puts a small current through the test object and measures the resulting voltage. Resistance is then calculated as R=U/I. Any voltage that's already across the test object will add to the above mentioned voltage, void the reading and can damage the ohmmeter (which is expecting only the small test voltage). Even if he'd manage to discharge the battery (to real zero volts), he can't do it like that, because the internal resistance is not like a normal resistor; it varies depending on different variables.
Easy way to remember volts are not the same as current, current being measured in Ampere. Voltage is like a water tower, storing x amount of water and by being held higher than all the houses it feeds, uses gravitational energy to pressurize your water lines at home. Voltage is akin to water pressure in this case. Your regulator on your water meter is like the transformer on your power pole, bringing the "pressure" from the tower down to something usable. When you turn on your faucet, the amount of water coming out of it is akin to the current of electricity. So voltage is potential and current is flow. I could be lying tho
I have a question for a Cody level brain. I've been wondering about ways to store lead acid batteries long term. Let's say I buy a new battery, preferably "dry", but either way, then drain the acid, wash it out with distilled water, then dry it thoroughly. If I then placed this in a cool, dry place for 20 years, could I then add battery acid and expect it to function? Function like new? Even better, I could flood the battery case with nitrogen or some inert gas and then vacuum seal it, so there would be no oxidation during the storage period.
+Cody'sLab haha. And I thought nobody else was doing this because I couldn't find it on google. I should have known! Thanks man. So there's no concern with oxidation at all? This is for my golf cart battery bank. I would t want to buy $650 worth of batteries and reduce their life or capacity.
I have a few questions. I thought you had to start with two dissimilar metals. Also thought that full strength electrolyte provided full charge without charging. Thanks for the info on non acid electrolyte. I have a few dead battery's I would like to salvage Good video.
The way i understand it is, with his method, charging creates the second metal by creating a layer of lead oxide on one plate. The batteries you buy from the store are already 2 different metals. 1 set of plates are lead and the other set are lead oxide or some other lead compound.
cody doesnt have college, he just started college recently because he found out he couldnt go to space if he didnt have degrees backing up his knowledge, thats how it works
Suppose education always equals intelligence? Just like education always equals manners and self discipline? Apparently not. Remember this when you interview for your next job breaking down old batteries. 😉
Reading over this again. Cody gave a general idea of how this works. Ya his was not very good but I got the idea. That was his plan. I knew one of the material engineers from the Gemini space program. He helped create the heat shield material. I can tell that him and Cody think a lot alike. Now then for this battery I'm thinking that we must grind the lead to a consistency of coffee grounds, and mix those grounds with fiberglass insulation. Maybe something like the old table top hand meat grinder would mix them into a paste like substance, I'm not sure but I think in order to get enough surface this material has to be broken down.
Will you ever try lithium ion batteries? I had a physics professor mess around with lithium batteries while finishing his degree and at the school's lab he figured out how to replenish dead lithium cells (recycling batteries) and trade marked it. Who knows what you'll discover while working with lithium!
You've mentioned having a bigger voltage solar panel(14V) in your video make 'em charge the battery. But can I also work on equal? 12v solar panel to charge those up? I asked coz It be universal to use a 12V panel to direct electronic equipment vs a 14Volt one. Thanks!
I have an idea for you: Get a straight piece of sheet metal, zinc-plated steel is good. Melt lead in a can. Then pour it at once from a height like 0.5m in the center of the metal. It will form a blot that instantly solidifies. You peel it off easily, then cut it to suitable strips like any other sheet metal. Much better technique than with the hole. Then you need to wrap it with the separator much like you would a capacitor.
I was about to comment and say the same thing... I think I heard the firing rate decrease slightly after he disconnected the battery charger, so I'm thinking maybe hit-and-miss. Or old diesel with a huge flywheel. I'd love to see it though, I'm sure it's interesting regardless of what it is.
4 volts Also your meter is showing M ohms, megaohm. Big difference.. But otherwise, you did a fantastic job explaining the basics. I am developing a game where I intend to allow the player to create lead acid cells; this was very informative.
Wow Cody your videos are fascinating I am becoming a fan. RUclips recommended a video of yours. Thanks I am subscribing to your channel now. "THANKS RUclips". I ALSO LIKE BIGCLIVE AND AvE VIDEOS. AvE VIDEOS ARE THE FUNNIEST.
Yeah, I spotted that as well! That's what happens when you try to measure a battery's internal resistance with an ohmmeter, it can't be done as the residual charge in the battery completely screws up the reading. The correct way is a bit more complicated than that, but still only requires a multimeter, a resistor, and Ohm's Law. The resistance of a dead battery is pretty much meaningless anyway.
Im sure You already know that, but i feel like i have to say it. Current is flow of electrons, and You measure it in amps. Voltage is difference in potential, and You measure it in Volts. It is not same. I'm electronic engineer, and confusing this two hurts me really bad. On the other hand i know that if i have battery it gets me power, because some magic happens inside ;)
More cells in series means more voltage. More cells in parallel delivers more current provided the wires can handle it. More voltage means less current can provide the same power, but of course it get's complicated when we bring resistive, inductive and capacitive loads into it.
Kalan01r, that made me cringe, too. But in fairness, regard the target audience, and the fact that Cody probably doesn't have to design many elektrickle surkits or rub elboes with to many injuneers. His vids probably excite more scientific curiousity in kids than all the bored and boring science teachers in all of our public schools. Really, I have to say that I thoroughly enjoyed Cody's presentation, overall. It would be cool to compare lead acid battery chemistry with lead alkali in the same form factor, though. There's another youtube opportunity for somebody. 15 min of fame, anyone?
Hey Cody, I'm designing a led/acid battery for a school project. Does the volume of the cell matter? It's to my understanding that its the amount of surface area of the electrode which comes in contact with the electrolyte solution which matters but I wanted to check with you. Also do you know of ways to increase the voltage per cell? I want to make my cells as small/light as possible, thanks!
lol almost every video, I thought the collab video of flushing liquid nitrogen was pretty crazy, that stuff makes latex gloves almost shatter if it doesn't roll off immediately. I think it was KingofRandom who almost got some freezer burn that time.
Please be carful with that lead oxide, I hear its very toxic and can kill you painfully over time, even small amounts. Please let me know if that's true. Also, could you do a alum or Epsom salt conversion to your used car batteries. I hear they don't degrade and you can dump the entire charge out of them and they will recharge just fine, and will never die.ThanksRandy
This is probably not the best place to get Cody's attention .. but would LOVE Cody opinion on the chemical make up, of whats been discovered/talked about as lead acid Alum conversion batterys ... basic are.. taking OUT the Sulfuric Acid, rinse out with standard (maybe better with de-ionized) water, then replace with a solution of water and Alum powder (also known as Fatakdi powder) which is Aluminum potassium sulfate.. althou battery voltage normally sits/floats at about a volt lower, it seems to vent less, when charging... but ultimatly, doesnt matter how bad the battery was "sulphated" before .. as long as it didnt have a shorted cell .. seems to give a whole new lease of life to the battery ... is normally a success rate of 70/30 .. does this seem right chemically ?? .. as Sulfuric acid ( H2SO4 )seems to be rather important in the reactions ! ... Alum powder (Aluminum potassium sulfate) KAl(SO4)2.. so STILL has the SO4 in there to react ?.. But im NO chemist !!!
I would love to see that genny you have poppin in the background I have been working on achieving that exact sound/ speed I have a 3 1/2 briggs internally governed with an aprox 12 or 14 inch diameter driver and a delco alternator works but seems to have a conflictive issue with the governers .interaction/operation of fuel keeps trying to increase and I keep holding it in so its noise is internal and louder than its exhaust like a rod knock/wrist pin slap n yours sounds so sweeeet n steady would love to see it in action and with your ok reproduce one for myself I subscribed and really liked your video laiden jars I think they are called we find them in old farm houses for the phones usually sitting in floor joists or foundations top ledge its good to see someone else who tries to create and inspire others to do so as well as we are becoming a rare thing and almost a crime to do feel or be creative,inovative or challenge the status quo and have the gall to think for yourself they just wont let you do it here and go to great effort to control or remove you if you buck with em near 30 yrs I been fighting it n them and no end in sight and your genny would ease my load outta sight outta mind I live on solar/ gen they wont hook my power up no gas either cause I have an rv on my land to live in which I wouldn't be in if they hadent made my landlord and a sherriff at all but gun point evict me not for monies owed or any other reason but my junk collection and machines I build so watch out if they aren't on ya they will be and again thanks
How about using that gold squisher with the rollers you got to make some really long ribbons of thin lead and sandwich two of them with fiberglass, roll those up to make a tight cylinder, then stuff those in the glass jars. Wouldn't that give a greater surface area and more storage capacity?
I hope you have the time to try a salt water battery. Less energy density BUT indefinite life span, non-toxic chemistry and can withstand repeated total discharge. Perfect for a zero budget mass power storage system
IIRC they put calcium in battery lead to improve the electrical properties of the battery. But this means it isn't compatible with arsenic or antimony. Which is good, because battery lead doesn't contain it, but you shouldn't mix battery lead with lead from weights, bullets or particular hot metal type. Because when the calcium mixes with the antimony and arsenic in the lead melt it forms intermetallic compounds Ca3Sn2 and Ca3As2 . These are insoluble in the melt and float to the top as a scum. These compounds are quite dangerous as they react with moisture in the air to form stibine and arsenine, SnH3 and AsH3, which are extremely toxic and heavy so they accumulate.
Cody let me start by saying I'm a big fan. I have an unrelated question. did you add the acid battery ad below the video? or RUclips did that automatically?
As a question, wouldn't it be better for the batteries to use some kind of textured roller to flatten the lead strips out even further while adding a lot of surface area, then coil the positive and negative plates with an insulator between them like a capacitor?
yes you are right, problem is if you crack the anode into the solution you lose most of the surface area.... so.... that's why people use thick plates and not the capacitor setup :S
Lead vapours have a very sweet metallic smell/taste, almost like lemon pledge. I work with solder paste and wave machines everyday, its a very pleasant smell, but I hate to think what it does to me......
6 years later, I am seeing this. I work at a lead acid battery factory. I am a cell burner, so I line up the positive and negative plates and melt the posts with the terminals on them to the plates. But we make large industrial batteries where the individual cells weigh 25 to 240 pounds each. I enjoy it, and I enjoyed this video Cody. Thank you
That sounds like a cool job
@@tek4 until you realize how dangerous it is... well, lead poisoning is the main concern.
thank you for your service
@@Ryan-lc4blI'd assume they have some really good respiratory protection and such
@@iowafarmboy yes, I'm aware they do... molten lead doesn't have a high vapor pressure at it's melting point (327°C), so the main concern isn't the vapor, but lead oxide dust (the paste coated on the plates).
But on a large scale, there's considerable exposure.... they're tested for it over the course of a few months.
Exaust fans and such are used to protect them.
My science teacher shows your videos in class all the time
lol
Well said. Thumbs up.?
I try to use your information
@Belal Motawe Really cheap ass shit for spamming an advertisement in like that. Really slick, you complete and total tool. Please, nobody Google "Magic Mender Wizard", or give them one dollar of your money. Go spend money on advertising, shit head.
Wow mad respect to cody and lol good way for ur teatcher to take shortcuts 👍🏽
Wat gread r u in?
Best person for a post apocalyptic world to restart this planet. Happy, energetic, kind, thoughtful, smart and a troubleshooter. Plus, he works hard, and that's the most important part.
The question is, how do you raise children like that?
@@NwoDispatcher The answer is, have them participate from the time that they start developing an attention span and teach them everything you know as they grow up! It isn't rocket science...
- Max Giganteum
@@NwoDispatcher I was in the garage when my grandpa was diluting sulfuric acid to fill his car battery. I helped in demolishing and building the house. Just have kids hang around instead of going to school. School is just conditioning to obey and bullying.
Interesting video.
From what I'm reading in the comments section of a lot of other videos, the reason to use sulfuric acid is because it freezes at a much lower temp than epsom salts etc. So low freezing point is a factor to consider here.
Before watching your vid, I assumed the lead plates in batteries were simply thin squares of pure lead. Now I know they are a lot more complicated than that, I realize making or reconditioning an automotive battery is no simple matter.
i love the crudeness of your process and the way you do things, just to see if you could. Very cool man. keep up.
"That's a good way to lead yourself"
-Cody 2016
That was great! So much practical information made easy to digest. Thanks so much!
can you explain more about your battery ?
thanks , Kathrine !
Nice to see you here! Although I shouldn't be the least surprised. Hope the fortress roof is going well! :)
This person is a very good teacher 😊
Cody, thanks for the videos. They are entertaining and... well... I've learned a lot. I really enjoy how you do this stuff from odds and ends you have rather than running to the store every five minutes and buying things. Please keep it up.
quite sure i was reading Megaohms on that multimeter not ohms XD, and btw usually multimeters can't give the proper resistence when you test directly the battery, try using a known resistor in series then measure the current passing through it, measure the voltage, then you just have to solve V=(Rr+Rb)*I => Rb=V/I-Rr that works much better and gives you a kinda accurate value of internal resistence of the battery
Best video yet that I've found so far, for this type of hands on information. I'm thinking about making my own batteries. Just trying to understand what is involved, it's videos like this that will save me time & money. Thanks
Nice short summary of how a battery works
Fun cody is better than depressed cody. Reignite the fire cody! You are still an inspiration.
Nice tutorial, I did something similar a few years back, sort of a DIY solar charger and battery experiment, good work. I did find the irony a bit funny though with a tutorial about building a battery, right at a bank of batteries, near a generator, and your cam's battery dead ;)
i thought ppl said arsenic smelled like almonds and dirty socks?? im friken addicted to ur vids man def gets a like from me
that is cyanide
*****
ahhh thats right,
Arsenic smells like old lace.
Number 1 in Sherlock Holmes's chemistry lab! Prussic acid (hydrogen cyanide) smells like bitter almonds. A bit of a mad Holmes fan I'm afraid.
Almonds smell like cyanide, cyanide doesn't smell like almonds.
Lmao I love how you have your pre-properly-done solar panel, the ancestor of your current one. I've watched you forever now, and I really envy your lifestyle. Keep being a cool guy man, and keep making stuff you find interesting!
Geez, that wrench you laid up by the batteries (around 17:30) is nearly giving me a heart attack. If it shorts across the terminals bad things could happen in a *flash*.
this video could be a guide of how to make this style of video, because he's giving us important information that people tend to forget. like telling us that a 12v battery charges at 14.4 volts, something most people forget to mention. or showing the plates and talking about surface area. these are very helpful for someone who didn't know this, instead of just saying there's lead plates and it's a 12v, battery charger. of course eventually people find these things out on their own but when you're totally clueless little things like that make a difference in understanding it. if i didn't know and i was charging something and then i measured it at 14.4 volts from the charger i might start to worry.
That was totally awesome, and I believe it was one of your best videos yet! I think you are really improving a lot on your video-making skills and editing skills as well!
Cody, many of your fans have asked you many questions that you haven't answered. The answers would greatly add to the education provided.
I've read MANY of the comments and answered a few. It seems to me that many people are just lazy and don't/won't do any of their own research. Some are just ridiculous like the one below about using mercury for a battery. Cody can't be expected to spend enormous amounts of time reading and answering questions from people that are to lazy to gain a basic understanding of the topic. Granted; schools don't teach much well anymore, but, i think it was Edison that said, if you read about something for 15mins. a day, within a year you'll be an expert! And i've found that to be true. With Google and the internet, if you can read, you can learn anything. With RUclips you don't even need to be able to read well. You just have to be willing to put in the time and effort.
"And now the current I'm getting is like 4 volts."
Oh Cody...
immibis 4volts of current..
he is majoring in geology and minoring in chem. I wouldn't blame him for making such a small mistake.
Instead of quoting a mistake and emphasizing on it, you would do well in explaining, that Voltage is measured in volts, and Current is measured in Ampere. Voltage is the potential / level, and Ampère is the amount of current in the thread. The effect you get out is calculated by Volt times Ampere...
@@DigitalAgeInstitute He makes these mistakes on purpose just to screw with people.
If only that was the biggest mistake in this video... During his explanation in the first couple minutes of the video, he didn't even get the reaction right.
Always a great time going back into the oldies!
Thanks for solving one mystery for me. I always wondered why people do not recycle lead acid batteries. Melt the lead and make it new. I melt lead as a child too. But as you proved, obtaining performance is not child play. I will not complain anymore that batteries are expensive.
Great video. There are declassified Navy training videos that go into detail on how the chemical reaction works on RUclips. These videos were very informative.
I found your comment interesting, you could tell us where to see this information, thank you very much :)
Got a link❓
A very good video explaining how lead acid battery works.
So glad to see this! Can't believe i haven't seen this one before. Thanks for the tutorial on making a battery
im over here studying lead acid batterys for a project im working on and i find out one of my favorite youtubers has a video on them
Hey Cody sounds like you have a lister genset running in background, it sounds like the one I have. Thanks for your videos keep up the good work.
40 odd years ago we made lead acid batteries for our 7th grade physical science class. As I remember it we used lead foil rolled between sheets of heavy construction paper. I'm guessing Nannystate would frown upon that these days.
Robert murray smith got me into batteries recently and how usefull they are so now im watching this again years later
This is what i would expect the Professor to demonstrate from a episode of Gilligan’s Island!
Have you ever built Copper Aluminum batteries? I've seen interesting videos about them in the past and would love to see your take on them.
Thanks for making all the great content!
Thanks Cody,
Saw this but never made a comment,will be watching more of your stuff.take care and be safe
Super great explination and an easy to understand build
Very much appreciated.
If he ever runs low on ideas I would love to see him recreate these videos in higher quality
btw: you cant messure the batteries internal resistance directly with a DMM in ohms mode
Subbed because I learned more about lead acid batteries in 20 minutes than ever before! 😄😎👍❤️
Thanks so much Buddy to share with us your knowledge, very clear explanation. Terrific job !
If you take children out of their failing schools and send them off to people like Cody only one day a week, my educated guess is that you would see a marked improvement in the future for not only the children but maybe we could start filling high paying jobs (many go unfilled) with these better educated young adults.
And that's the principle of proposals to seriously reform the education system. Take the idea of learning effectively from people with real skills and experiences, and place it in a safe, regulated framework.
Homeschooling is the only way forward. Don't let the government teach your kids.
This video was very informative, thanks for sharing your knowledge in this great walkthrough.
i dont think you can measure the internal resistance of a battery with an ohmmeter like that? considering the meter does the measurement by applying a voltage across the resistance to be tested. (your meter appears to say megaohms, not ohms)
Yes. Fully agree with jonsykkel. Can't do that. The battery volts will make a mess of your Ohms reading.
Exactly, you need a LOAD resistance and measure the open and closed circuit to get internal resistance.
jonsykkel you are correct
Normally, you can't measure internal resistance using an ohmmeter. That's why he discharged the battery before doing the measurement.
The Ohmmeter puts a small current through the test object and measures the resulting voltage. Resistance is then calculated as R=U/I.
Any voltage that's already across the test object will add to the above mentioned voltage, void the reading and can damage the ohmmeter (which is expecting only the small test voltage).
Even if he'd manage to discharge the battery (to real zero volts), he can't do it like that, because the internal resistance is not like a normal resistor; it varies depending on different variables.
So when the apocalypse hits, I'm just gonna find Cody and do whatever he's doing. This is functional chemistry at its finest.
so, batteries are just capacitors but the plates have higher resistence than the ones used in common capacitors?
Prof cody.. i learn a lot from you..keep it up
Easy way to remember volts are not the same as current, current being measured in Ampere. Voltage is like a water tower, storing x amount of water and by being held higher than all the houses it feeds, uses gravitational energy to pressurize your water lines at home. Voltage is akin to water pressure in this case. Your regulator on your water meter is like the transformer on your power pole, bringing the "pressure" from the tower down to something usable. When you turn on your faucet, the amount of water coming out of it is akin to the current of electricity. So voltage is potential and current is flow. I could be lying tho
not lying, you can say that again
I have a question for a Cody level brain. I've been wondering about ways to store lead acid batteries long term. Let's say I buy a new battery, preferably "dry", but either way, then drain the acid, wash it out with distilled water, then dry it thoroughly. If I then placed this in a cool, dry place for 20 years, could I then add battery acid and expect it to function? Function like new? Even better, I could flood the battery case with nitrogen or some inert gas and then vacuum seal it, so there would be no oxidation during the storage period.
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+Cody'sLab haha. And I thought nobody else was doing this because I couldn't find it on google. I should have known! Thanks man. So there's no concern with oxidation at all? This is for my golf cart battery bank. I would t want to buy $650 worth of batteries and reduce their life or capacity.
@@theCodyReeder dont get any lead on you touching it or breath any lead dust etc. it car reak havoc on the body. I Love your videos 👍
I have a chemistry project about this for a finals project
This has helped a lot
you are very talented and I can tell that you listened in science class
This is fascinating. I've been living on a lead acid battery over a couple of years. It's always empty let me tell ya
21:03 made my heart skip a beat haha
You have the best channel
I have a few questions. I thought you had to start with two dissimilar metals. Also thought that full strength electrolyte provided full charge without charging. Thanks for the info on non acid electrolyte. I have a few dead battery's I would like to salvage Good video.
The way i understand it is, with his method, charging creates the second metal by creating a layer of lead oxide on one plate. The batteries you buy from the store are already 2 different metals. 1 set of plates are lead and the other set are lead oxide or some other lead compound.
This is what would of happened if the Trailer Park Boys went to college...
Cody sometimes sounds sooo much like Bubbles though!
cody doesnt have college, he just started college recently because he found out he couldnt go to space if he didnt have degrees backing up his knowledge, thats how it works
You cannot do this kind of shit up you choof or game 24/7 - the amount of work just getting this stuff together... phew!
Suppose education always equals intelligence? Just like education always equals manners and self discipline? Apparently not.
Remember this when you interview for your next job breaking down old batteries. 😉
@@GamingAmbienceLive what? You say i can't go to Mars without wasting 4 years of life on a bullshit college degree?
Reading over this again. Cody gave a general idea of how this works. Ya his was not very good but I got the idea. That was his plan. I knew one of the material engineers from the Gemini space program. He helped create the heat shield material. I can tell that him and Cody think a lot alike. Now then for this battery I'm thinking that we must grind the lead to a consistency of coffee grounds, and mix those grounds with fiberglass insulation. Maybe something like the old table top hand meat grinder would mix them into a paste like substance, I'm not sure but I think in order to get enough surface this material has to be broken down.
Will you ever try lithium ion batteries? I had a physics professor mess around with lithium batteries while finishing his degree and at the school's lab he figured out how to replenish dead lithium cells (recycling batteries) and trade marked it. Who knows what you'll discover while working with lithium!
Great work , love how you teach .
You've mentioned having a bigger voltage solar panel(14V) in your video make 'em charge the battery. But can I also work on equal? 12v solar panel to charge those up? I asked coz It be universal to use a 12V panel to direct electronic equipment vs a 14Volt one. Thanks!
I have an idea for you: Get a straight piece of sheet metal, zinc-plated steel is good. Melt lead in a can. Then pour it at once from a height like 0.5m in the center of the metal. It will form a blot that instantly solidifies. You peel it off easily, then cut it to suitable strips like any other sheet metal. Much better technique than with the hole.
Then you need to wrap it with the separator much like you would a capacitor.
Good show. Thanks for the effort you put at demonstrating things for us. And with one hand! :-)
What kind of generator is that you are running? It sounds like a steam engine. Or an old hit and miss engine.
Sounds like a low spark rate engine, probably with a flywheel. Sounds pretty efficient.
Craig Arnold My bet would be on a Lister diesel clone from India "Listeroid".
Those reasons are gone
+Dogurasu You probably should've googled or searched youtube for "lister clone" before you made that comment.
I was about to comment and say the same thing... I think I heard the firing rate decrease slightly after he disconnected the battery charger, so I'm thinking maybe hit-and-miss. Or old diesel with a huge flywheel. I'd love to see it though, I'm sure it's interesting regardless of what it is.
I was just looking for cheap offgrid batteries this makes me wanna try to make my own...
Awesome Cody, thanks that answered so many of my questions :)
"Or you could pause the video". Love this line.
And I thought I was smart because I made a potato clock, this saddens me greatly :(
Yet he can kill himself with half of the things he does
did anyone else see the the irony in him working on a battery and him saying him saying his cameras battery is dying
I saw more irony in Him doing a battery info vid while the generator is charging the battery set the whole time. Kinda nulls the whole thing.
There's no irony. Only lead.
Deadaunt telivision i was just about to say something
very well explained!
4 volts
Also your meter is showing M ohms, megaohm. Big difference..
But otherwise, you did a fantastic job explaining the basics.
I am developing a game where I intend to allow the player to create lead acid cells; this was very informative.
Wow Cody your videos are fascinating I am becoming a fan. RUclips recommended a video of yours. Thanks I am subscribing to your channel now. "THANKS RUclips". I ALSO LIKE BIGCLIVE AND AvE VIDEOS. AvE VIDEOS ARE THE FUNNIEST.
I got it now Cody . 👍 Thanks 😊
at 21:27 the reading of the meter is 7.2 M ohm, this may be why you have very little amperage!
Yeah, I spotted that as well! That's what happens when you try to measure a battery's internal resistance with an ohmmeter, it can't be done as the residual charge in the battery completely screws up the reading. The correct way is a bit more complicated than that, but still only requires a multimeter, a resistor, and Ohm's Law. The resistance of a dead battery is pretty much meaningless anyway.
+snaprollinpitts Yep, with a voltage present, swap the DMM leads and you'll see a different result?
Im sure You already know that, but i feel like i have to say it. Current is flow of electrons, and You measure it in amps. Voltage is difference in potential, and You measure it in Volts. It is not same. I'm electronic engineer, and confusing this two hurts me really bad. On the other hand i know that if i have battery it gets me power, because some magic happens inside ;)
lol, but generally with batteries more voltage = more current. ;)
Yea, thats righ. But still, it is not same thing.
More cells in series means more voltage. More cells in parallel delivers more current provided the wires can handle it. More voltage means less current can provide the same power, but of course it get's complicated when we bring resistive, inductive and capacitive loads into it.
generally the bigger battery is = more current) but voltage in contrary is pretty standard and there are not so many different voltages
Kalan01r, that made me cringe, too. But in fairness, regard the target audience, and the fact that Cody probably doesn't have to design many elektrickle surkits or rub elboes with to many injuneers. His vids probably excite more scientific curiousity in kids than all the bored and boring science teachers in all of our public schools. Really, I have to say that I thoroughly enjoyed Cody's presentation, overall. It would be cool to compare lead acid battery chemistry with lead alkali in the same form factor, though. There's another youtube opportunity for somebody. 15 min of fame, anyone?
Dude, That was awesome! Keep that up!
Cody, you should do a video and make a diy nickel iron battery!
Bloody brilliant - dirt under the fingernails - bleeding edge post industrial empowerment!
Hey Cody, I'm designing a led/acid battery for a school project. Does the volume of the cell matter? It's to my understanding that its the amount of surface area of the electrode which comes in contact with the electrolyte solution which matters but I wanted to check with you. Also do you know of ways to increase the voltage per cell? I want to make my cells as small/light as possible, thanks!
Cody's shredded gloves are classy as fuck lol
lol almost every video, I thought the collab video of flushing liquid nitrogen was pretty crazy, that stuff makes latex gloves almost shatter if it doesn't roll off immediately. I think it was KingofRandom who almost got some freezer burn that time.
hydrogen and sparks...hmmmm...
meh hydrogen in open air diffuses at such a fast rate that no explosive concentrations will be reached, especially at the rate he is charging at.
fun
in the open air? nothing to worry about.
Hi Cody, can you pls reshoot some of the older stuff in better quality?
The internal resistance is calculated by Rint = Rext(Vopen/Vclose -1)
Please be carful with that lead oxide, I hear its very toxic and can kill you painfully over time, even small amounts. Please let me know if that's true. Also, could you do a alum or Epsom salt conversion to your used car batteries. I hear they don't degrade and you can dump the entire charge out of them and they will recharge just fine, and will never die.ThanksRandy
Nilered has videos on a sort of lead sponge he made. I want to see it in a battery like someday. Even more now I've seen this!
you inspire me to create something huge ;)
just kidding dont try this at home kids
That was really cool
love your videos...keep'em com'in
This is probably not the best place to get Cody's attention .. but would LOVE Cody opinion on the chemical make up,
of whats been discovered/talked about as lead acid Alum conversion batterys ...
basic are..
taking OUT the Sulfuric Acid, rinse out with standard (maybe better with de-ionized) water,
then replace with a solution of water and Alum powder (also known as Fatakdi powder) which is Aluminum potassium sulfate..
althou battery voltage normally sits/floats at about a volt lower, it seems to vent less, when charging...
but ultimatly, doesnt matter how bad the battery was "sulphated" before .. as long as it didnt have a shorted cell .. seems to give a whole new lease of life to the battery ... is normally a success rate of 70/30 ..
does this seem right chemically ?? .. as Sulfuric acid ( H2SO4 )seems to be rather important in the reactions ! ...
Alum powder (Aluminum potassium sulfate) KAl(SO4)2.. so STILL has the SO4 in there to react ?..
But im NO chemist !!!
Good vid, Ive been searching for this.
Thank you so much for this video
Nice..... Learned a lot!!!
I would love to see that genny you have poppin in the background I have been working on achieving that exact sound/ speed I have a 3 1/2 briggs internally governed with an aprox 12 or 14 inch diameter driver and a delco alternator works but seems to have a conflictive issue with the governers .interaction/operation of fuel keeps trying to increase and I keep holding it in so its noise is internal and louder than its exhaust like a rod knock/wrist pin slap n yours sounds so sweeeet n steady would love to see it in action and with your ok reproduce one for myself I subscribed and really liked your video laiden jars I think they are called we find them in old farm houses for the phones usually sitting in floor joists or foundations top ledge its good to see someone else who tries to create and inspire others to do so as well as we are becoming a rare thing and almost a crime to do feel or be creative,inovative or challenge the status quo and have the gall to think for yourself they just wont let you do it here and go to great effort to control or remove you if you buck with em near 30 yrs I been fighting it n them and no end in sight and your genny would ease my load outta sight outta mind I live on solar/ gen they wont hook my power up no gas either cause I have an rv on my land to live in which I wouldn't be in if they hadent made my landlord and a sherriff at all but gun point evict me not for monies owed or any other reason but my junk collection and machines I build so watch out if they aren't on ya they will be and again thanks
can this trick of reversing the polarity of charging work on normal battery to change its plate into each other ??
How about using that gold squisher with the rollers you got to make some really long ribbons of thin lead and sandwich two of them with fiberglass, roll those up to make a tight cylinder, then stuff those in the glass jars. Wouldn't that give a greater surface area and more storage capacity?
Cody Krashcup,,,Mad scientist!
Cody you're so smart
I hope you have the time to try a salt water battery. Less energy density BUT indefinite life span, non-toxic chemistry and can withstand repeated total discharge. Perfect for a zero budget mass power storage system
IIRC they put calcium in battery lead to improve the electrical properties of the battery. But this means it isn't compatible with arsenic or antimony. Which is good, because battery lead doesn't contain it, but you shouldn't mix battery lead with lead from weights, bullets or particular hot metal type.
Because when the calcium mixes with the antimony and arsenic in the lead melt it forms intermetallic compounds Ca3Sn2 and Ca3As2 . These are insoluble in the melt and float to the top as a scum. These compounds are quite dangerous as they react with moisture in the air to form stibine and arsenine, SnH3 and AsH3, which are extremely toxic and heavy so they accumulate.
You should try ALUM, pickling alum. Look up John bedini alum battery videos, that will help. Thanks great vid.
The meter actually showed Megaohms the second and third time, i think the voltage the battery was producing was screwing up you meter.
Agreed.
Cody let me start by saying I'm a big fan. I have an unrelated question. did you add the acid battery ad below the video? or RUclips did that automatically?
As a question, wouldn't it be better for the batteries to use some kind of textured roller to flatten the lead strips out even further while adding a lot of surface area, then coil the positive and negative plates with an insulator between them like a capacitor?
yes
n o !
yes you are right, problem is if you crack the anode into the solution you lose most of the surface area.... so.... that's why people use thick plates and not the capacitor setup :S
Lead vapours have a very sweet metallic smell/taste, almost like lemon pledge. I work with solder paste and wave machines everyday, its a very pleasant smell, but I hate to think what it does to me......