Wow. Such an interesting and crucial discussion. And it's really wonderful that the owners of the boat took your concerns to heart, and opted for safety themselves. You undoubtedly helped them learn a lot about their own boat and their own approach to risk. Everybody benefitted, even if it was hard to do.
This is truly one of the best examples of External Pressures I've ever heard. Glad you guys were able to resist that pressure and make the safe, but very hard, decision.
One of the external pressures we didn’t discuss in this video is that we really like the owners, and felt like absolute party poopers when we approached them with all the topics discussed in this video. It broke our hearts and we felt really shitty about it. At the end of the day, we’re all safe and happy, pursuing our respective adventures, but it was hard to see that back then. /Sophie
@@RyanSophieSailing definitely another pressure. Typically though, external pressures examples don't usually lead to actually being homeless. That's quite a new level and I'm proud of you guys for still making that difficult decision. Also, I agree with Ryan: 6am (or earlier!) is a good time to get your work-day stuff started. Waiting until 10am or later is just blasphemy! :)
@@RyanSophieSailing I can understand how you felt about letting them down like that but it then made the Owners realise that there was something in your decision and forced their hand at coming up with a safer solution. Yes it might've cost them a lot more getting it shipped to it's destination but the boat was safe, the people on it were safe and there was no deaths at sea, that has got to be the best outcome.
Even though I have very little sailing experience, I found this interesting conversation well worth 26 minutes of my life. The safety factors/themes were expressed super-well amongst this great trio of fine people.
Excellent discussion Ryan, Sophie and Andy! Loved the PAVE risk management model. I love bringing aviation safety practices into our boating. Thank you!
@@59NorthSailing I guess the human condition will dictate that the 2000 recreational boat channel crossings will attract the interest and attention of virtually no one. But just do that one thing, like run into a cross channel ferry and the world will want to know all about it, and will have an opinion about who did what right and wrong.
@@59NorthSailing I like to believe that ever since I was in the sea scouts at 13 or so we were thought to leave only our foot prints on the sand before up coming tide...
This 2 part series is some of the best youtube videos I have watched. Should be required viewing for anybody going to buy, rent or crew on any boat. Excellent presentation of how to deal with safety and the risk factors involved with watercraft. Keep up the excellent videos.
As someone who is a risk management consultant, who has made that passage, and who is a private pilot, your videos here have been excellent in my view. Great work!
Nice to see Ryan so passionate about a subject he knows and believes in. I was trained in risk management but with people. I worked in the Criminal justice sector. But now with a life in sailing it all fits in the same way. I so enjoyed this video. I am the one on our boat that naturally looks at risk... second nature. You guys made a difficult but right decision. Good luck on your future voyages.
Thanks Thomas, those videos were really difficult to make as this was a sensitive topic. It took us a lot of thinking and attention to semantics to produce it and I am glad you appreciated them. I’m even happier if it makes those who watched them think twice next time they are faced with a really difficult decision! :) /Sophie
As a qualified UK risk assessor I think this is a great video - I’ll be interested to read your book. This is one of the most important aspects of sailing - safety must come first but we still need that adventure - mitigating risks is the way. Good job. You made the right choice and you’ve nothing to be embarrassed about 👍👍
Thanks so much for posting these retrospective videos. You’re doing us all a great service by talking about the realities of ocean cruising, rather than concentrating on the instaperfect slices of your life aboard.
Two interesting video's and a great conclusion by the owners of the boat, that they too perceived the risk and had the boat shipped. A happy ending all round 👏👏👏
Thank you for this informational/educational video! Yes I am an armchair sailor, still hopefully, some day, I just might be able to have everything aligned and I too can enjoy the freedom, the sunsets, the magic of the wind filling the sails! So, again, thank you for such awesome info! PAVE can easily be applied to any aspects of life, professions. And, any educational sailing advice you can give is invaluable coming from the higher caliber sailors that you are! I can't waste my invaluable time watching reckless sailors that I have come across on RUclips!
You mentioned that most of us watch for the fun past of sailing..true..however some of us enjoy the more technical side of things (also the fun stuff) we are getting ready to buy and live aboard/sail 2022 and appreciate all info we can get..love your channel..thank you
I have my own boat so doing all the fun stuff, I watch you guys to make sure I learn from you and the fun stuff stays fun. For example after your experience with diesel bug on the way to the Canaries I fitted a header tank with a Racor between the main and header. Now I can polish the fuel en route.
Hi John! I’m so happy our mishap with the diesel bug helped you avoid a similar situation! That’s why I believe in being truthful about our experiences, both good and... less successful 😅 (PS: we now carry A LOT more filters than we used to back then and are really warried of our fuel) /Sophie
I have a firefighter background where risk management takes on a similar approach. My concern with any motor vessel would be fuel as well. I would have made the same choice, I just would have made it earlier than you two, not to say you guys were wrong. At the time you made your decision to go, you as you stated in the previous video, did not know what you did not know. Thank you for sharing. I know it must not have been easy.
We also wish we would have figured it all out sooner, but such is life sometimes! All is well in the end and we learned a lot. But as you say, it was not easy... at all! :/
Hey Ryan and Sophie, just watched your two videos on risks and decisions on why not to cross the Atlantic and we found it really useful. You guys are paving the way in bringing reality to the sailing community. Its really comforting to listen to your reasoning along with having Andy as an advocate and sounding board. Its really honest, positive and a helpful summary on tricky decision making. We love you guys! Keep it up and we look forward to seeing Polar Seal out and about very soon!!! Who knows, we may pump into you in the Caribbean very soon!
Thank you VERY MUCH for both videos. Besides being interesting, they were also intriguing and thought provoking. I am in my mid 70's and am finding that I am not evaluating risks like I used to. Instead, I rely on the "we have always done it this way with no problem, so why make a change". That approach totally ignores the enVironment element, and in this year of the pandemic, there are more changes than can be counted.
Another aviation idea, The Accident Chain. Any accident is the sum of a chain of events. Both of you, even though you agonized over the decision, broke the chain of events. Awesome!
You two are very classy people. I admire the way you went about talking about the details of a difficult decision. You never shamed the owners for the Power boat.
Great video and advice every sailor can use to insure the safety of themselves and their crew for future adventures. You have summarized what we all need to know but sometimes don't want to accept for fear of missing out! THANK YOU!
Great breakdown! As a long time aviation professional and boater, it definitely gives me a lot to think of and tie my safety background to my boating background. As hard as it is to pull the plug on a flight or passage it is a great method of risk assessment
Great wrap-up to this two part analysis. In the PAVE discussion, EXTERNAL PRESSURES (aka “Get Home-it is” ) was perhaps the principal factor that caused the delay in making your go-no go decision. An added bonus in this story is that your decision to bail on this adventure likely precipitated some soul searching by the owners that ultimately resulted in their (wise) decision to ship the old Hatteras. Win-Win for all parties involved and you should give yourselves some credit for that. Keeping it real is a unique and the most interesting aspect of your videos...carry on!
A great part 2. I'm glad you recognized it's about adventure. Sometimes you just have to go to learn what you have to learn, yet, your conversation makes that so much safer! Well done.
Great lessons shared guys. My background is engineering and construction project management, tho fortunately now retired. Risk management was always a part of project management. And after flying on small charter flights across Canada's Arctic, I am glad that the aviation sector had the PAVE awareness. In my world, we were taught that a project debrief should occur at the end of every project. It seldom does cause there is no glory in it. Thanks to you all for doing this, its not the fun in the sun sailing stuff, but it is so important. Good luck on the journey.
Ryan, I didn't know you flew the Viper. I've flown a lot of airplanes over the past 60 years and the F-16 is in a class by itself, by far the most amazing airplane of the bunch. I'd noticed that you and I approach safety from the same direction. Now I understand why. I loved to hear you say, "It's better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than to be in the air wishing you were on the ground." Been there, done that!
G R E A T !!! I loved that 2 episode video so much. That is the core of knowledge you should have to go sailing either coastal or ocean going vessels. Thank you so much for having us along with you in that invaluable lesson. Sailing is not only getting on a boat. YOU showed all us that's a lot more. THANK YOU
Totally agree with Andy - better preparation and knowledge to avoid regulation... Great information Ryan , Sophie and Andy. Thanks for sharing this awkward situation. We have that much more respect for you now for being transparent and for being respectful to the owners of the motor yacht.
Amazed that Professional Captain Andy was able to assist in your decision making while wrestling storms and sailing! I have run 33’-44’ racing sailboats for Owners after long-distance races. Sometimes the Owners would join. Rarely enjoyably. Boat delivery is not a “cruise”. Have also had to deal with “crew” that failed in challenging times when on the water. You learn to not trust anybody that has not been “tested” with you on the boat. Heck, I will not get on anything that floats unless I believe it is “safe”. Asking questions and physically inspecting everything yourself is the only way. Great video series and I agree that your decision Not to Sail saved you two & the Owner great grief or worse!
Excellent series on risk management. We admire your humility and sharing this with us and lessons learned which many sailors avoid to discuss. BTW Andy is a great mentor. Big thumbs up😊
What a great series. Good lessons even for non-sailors. Glad to hear that the couple you were going to cross with opted to play it safe and ship their yacht.
Liked the two vlogs around sailing and Risk Management. It's one of the reasons I watch al the different sailing vlogs. Next to just go out and get experienced with sailing and have fun. It's all about willing to learn from others and prep your vessel to the best you can for bigger adventures. Plus always be aligned with your own feelings. They keep you safe. Thanks! PS I hope adventures will never be constraint by having a license.
Sophie, Ryan, and Andy, thanks for this video. I have always been pretty careful when sailing to make sure my seamanship matched what I was doing. Being trained is important. I wish I had had the risk analysis perspective to organize my thoughts. I think I would have enjoyed my sailing even more. I would always be anxious before a sail wondering if I had thought of everything. This type of thought process would have allowed more excitement and less anxiousness. Maybe a title for your book could be: "Take the Worry Out of Sailing".
Excellent topic and well presented. I would like to add that the total freedom you have when you go sailing also implies you have the total responsibility for your own safety. And as a captain you also carry the responsibility for the safety of the vessel. I read your website with respect to the rules when someone wants to join you sailing and I can't agree more. I recall some of my crew sometimes looking at me as being pedantic about explaining the rules regarding safety. And certainly good even worse looks when I started yelling to avoid an imminent disaster. However I have seen injuries and so far (30+ seasons of sailing experience) after incidents I always walked away without personal permanent injuries, other then a dent in my ego :-)
Good stuff! This made me pull out my Excel risk management sheet from work and apply it to our current boat buying process. Can‘t believe I didn’t think of this before 🤦♀️
As a man long since retired from an aviation and safety life, I found this a very thoughtful and sensible conversation which helped me understand what you had gone through. I hope you get moving with your chosen life again soon, you deserve it.
Very educational video guys!!!! Part 1 and 2 are great for those that we are getting in the sailing world! Thank you Ryan, Sophie and Andy!!!! You are awesome!
A great couple of videos, an excellent topic and well presented. I've been following a fair number of sailing channels and I don't recall any of them discussing risk management in the manner you have ( Well, maybe Riley from SLV whilst on passage but only as it applied to his current situation) I especially loved the - Better to be on the ground wishing your were flying - analogy . I'm gonna use that somewhere down the line. Thanks again and Happy Holidays :-)
Really informative video, and as you guys have so rightly pointed out, this is a serious topic but is often set aside, when it should be spoken about much more openly. I think anyone who wishes to take to the seas and oceans of the world, should do so after putting themselves through numerous courses relating to sailing, navigation and general seamanship (as I am currently doing myself). Keep up the great work!
Ok guys. I’ve watched this video after my night shift. I’m sorry, I apologise for my previous reaction. I also think you’ve made the best decisions. Especially when you said that they shipped the boat. I also agree with Andy’s conclusions, that’s also how I feel about it. I work in the shipping industry, you won’t believe the things I see. That’s why I skyrocketed. I do want to add something to this knowledge. Most of the times, and by that I mean about 90%, you’re gut feeling or instinct is right, head on. Like you mentioned in part one. It’s like the “i should reef” feeling. It’s very hard to follow that feeling because the mind interferes with that. You guys had the guts to follow it. Because you followed your instincts, the boat owners also started to follow their instincts contagiously. And they made the right decision. A chain reaction i guess. CHAIN REACTIOON 🎤🎤. You know... The BeeGees? Anyway I’m sorry. :)
Hahaha! Thanks, I’m glad you watched the second part! And you made me realize that I shouldn’t have cut the video in two parts to begin with. I cut it at a place that made it hard for viewers to understand the message we were trying to convey. My initial intention was to make it really difficult for the viewers only looking for sensationalism to find the “reasons why we left” and I am sure I have achieved “difficulty”. But it also left a lot of people, like you, frustrated because our intention was unclear (I believe). In a few weeks, the world will have forgotten about those videos. But maybe someday, somewhere, someone will find themselves in a tough spot and will remember that we made a difficult decision to pull the plug because of an initial “gut feeling” followed by a more thorough risk analysis. Maybe that person will remember the few concepts we talked about, and maybe they will find the courage to make a tough call. We’ll never know :) but that’s why we wanted to talk about this. Super thanks for watching! /Sophie
@@RyanSophieSailing Sophie. It was unclear. That’s true. But my reaction wasn’t appropriate, and thats the end of it. Your intentions where right, thats all that matters. So I guess...maybe thats why things came along? Anyway, the risk analysis was pretty good, really. You guys made the right call. Maybe this episode, maybe it’ll find it’s way somehow. Whatever you do. Don’t give up. Life throws curveballs, remember? An idea here: Maybe you should do an old school navigation sailing episode. Andy is pretty good at it I believe... Give your friend some free advertising, he did so much for you guys. I love the people he is sailing with. You should share that. Anyway, thanks for sharing. Remember it are hard times for everyone, so don’t worry to much about YT. Safety comes first ;)
Well done guys. I had to pause the video many times because my mind drifted away to those times that I was so excited to go that I let my Risk management be overruled by pressures and excitement. Reminds me of a cartoon I saw of people in a boat heading for a rock smiling and the caption ( Ignorance is bliss and damned aren't we happy)
Thanks for sharing what was clearly a difficult, emotional and somewhat traumatizing decision especially because it left you homeless in the midst of the pandemic. Ultimately, you stuck to your safety principles which you chose because they make what can be a very dangerous proposition (crossing the Atlantic) as safe as possible. Thanks for sharing those too, as well as Andy's insights which are great. I'm new to your channel so when I saw that you were getting on a 1975 motor yacht, I was a little dubious. I've seen your recent videos so I knew you got back to Curacao safely but I (still) don't know how. More videos to watch I guess. I've been sailing for a few years in San Francisco and along the West Coast and am considering purchasing a boat in the near future so I love all your decision making and your openness with the ups and downs.
Great decision ... you are alive and talking about it and in the process everyone got to learn some fundamental basics about adventures where risks are very different than walking down the street or driving through town. Well done!
My wife and I and sometimes our son got to sail as often as possible with a friend of ours (on mountain lakes in Colorado) and Al was quite aware of safety factors, including basic training of new crew in raising and lowering of sails. His boat had three different jibs and a storm main sail (I don't recall its proper name) and over the years we encountered situations where all the sails were used. In mountain lakes the environment can go from wonderful to deadly in a matter of seconds. Thank you for these videos (all of them but especially these last two)
The fun (for this guy who's never sailed out of sight of land) is getting to know these characters. And they do a great job of letting us know them. Andy looks Arrogant, but he isn't at all. Ryan is adorable (Sophie will agree) looks humble and bashful, and yet is a super hero man of steel. And Sophie too is adorable, and subtle in her self-mockery and play (also super hero of steel.) It's been a great pleasure to share your journey, not to mention informative. Now, I guess, on to something stupid on RUclips.
So you had an adventure after all, just not the one you expected :) . I think you did the right thing, thanks for sharing, even if you help to prevent one other from making a fatal mistake, the video was worth it. Thanks. I will be happy when I see you home on your boat, best of luck getting back to Polar Seal.
Thank you very much for your insight and analysis. As a surgeon, private pilot and boat owner for 25 and more years, I can confirm that a good risk management is paramount. My father was a chief surgeon, responsible for flight safety from the medical side, signing of pilots for their missions. From his reports I learned at an early age to assess risks and plan accordingly. Looking forward to read your book. Hope to meet you sometime on the ocean. Best regards ;)
Ryan here. I have a lot of respect for flight surgeons. Even though it was a flight surgeon that ended up air force days it was how they went about their jobs that I loved. R
A great recap of the episode. My guess is that a lot of boaters learned a good methodical approach to eliminating at least the really bad choices we can make from boating. I am recommending these videos to my friends.
A good one, two punch about complex problem solving for favorable outcomes. Again Thank you for sharing this story. One thing to add, you most likely help a new boat owner also to make a good call and modeled some effective behaviors. It is always better to be part of a solution.
If at the end of the day, this video helps one person make a better decision for them, it will definitely be worth taking a few negative comments here and there for it :) /Sophie
Hard stuff, good stuff - I like your way to show your point of view. Not only on land we say : SAFETY FIRST. It’s much more important at sea. As a Skipper we are responsible for us and our crew. We have not only to speak and discuss about safety, we have to live and to show the safe way. I like Andy too,
This was a perfect conversation. One thing you did keep on "ignoring" was the "External Pressure." You mentioned it many times and gave great examples... but it was "External Pressure" that was truly what drove your decisions until you realized that all the other PAV was not exactly where it needed to be. Emotions kept pushing you until other things "broke." And as you so clearly pointed out... you made the right choice for the right reasons. Well done. This was truly a great series. Bravo!!!
Awesome follow up video. I went to a boating safety course done by the US Coast Guard Auxillary and they did a risk management segment. They gave us a GAR score card. I don't recall what the acronym stands for but you score each of 6 categories on a scale of 1 thru 10. Add the scores up. A low numbers is low risk and a higher is more risk... It's a good exercise for me to better decide to go out or not. Look forward to getting Ryan's book.
Engine temp is function of cooling system, a little tweaking could get you where you need to be. Not sure what diesel you got but 800 rpm is plenty for most larger older diesels. Second, with wind behind you I would have definitely consider a parasail, would have been fun to see that and educational for all the steam pots runners out there. All problems can be solved, that is the fun part.
I knew it, i pulled the engine specs for all the engines available on this model and read the engine testing graphs for rpm to fuel consumption. The graphs i got where for a brand new engine and the same conclusion i came too. Factors where weather, fuel, total weight, route, maintenance, age of the components and reserves. I did the calculations too and i couldn't see it working. Never take the Ocean for granted.
Yes, this is what we feel we should have done prior to taking on the offer but... aren’t we all smarter hindsight? :) and as Ryan says, there is a trust balancing act. Anyhow, we have no regrets and hope that others can learn from our experience! /Sophie
@@RyanSophieSailing talking about engines whats Ryans thoughts on ruclips.net/video/xohxmwPfctg/видео.html hybrid diesel electric looks very interesting
This two part video was fantastic. I hold a private pilot licence and a glider licence, PAVE works, as do checklists. For me, if the thought passes through your mind that maybe you shouldn't go today, listen to it. Having a timetable to follow is a huge external pressure. NTSB (or the authority of that jurisdiction) conducts detailed reviews of aviation accidents and incidents for the purpose of educating persons to hopefully not repeat the same errors. Are there places where a person can find Official reviews of sailing incidents. My dad used to say "a wise man learns by his mistakes, a wiser man learns from the mistakes of others", he may not have penned that but he made sure we knew it. Thank you for posting this, I'm sure it will help others make decisions with their heads not hearts.
I work in Healthcare and risk management and quality is critical and can be applied to any area. I agree the airline industry was one of the first to get there. I did my masters thesis on Challenger mission failure which was very insightful
Despite your total lack of common sense you managed to reach the right conclusion albeit with considerable angst. You are a perfect trio to get through everyday life..The two of you and your analyst.
What an amazing two part video!! Love it... I think you all have some serious content possibilities for a Podcast / Show. I think the QuarterDeck might need a Female sailing perspective- to discuss major and current events in the Sailing Community and of course product reviews from time to time- I think of you make it interactive with the sailing community- you could SERIOUSLY pull some numbers In, Globally... Just a one off thought guys- hope to see more content like this one n your channel or Ryan’s Tech-Talk... 🙏🙏
We just launched the QUARTERDECK podcast, free wherever you listen to podcasts, which will touch on a lot of this stuff. And you'll get a lot of female perspective. Mia is very active on the podcast, as is our newest 59 North team member Emma Garschagen, my mate on ICEBEAR and soon to be podcast co-host.
Sound decision making. You touched on CRM, crew resource management, but that is more important underway although with an extended time prior to setting off, it would be playing out as you all got to know each other. Out of interest what were the fuel calculations? I aim to take my Nordhavn 47 across from Europe to the Caribbean next winter but even with a purpose built ocean crosser, it is still important to have an accurate fuel plan. I have a similar background to you Ryan and find that at 63, I am much more risk averse than I was when I was blasting around in aeroplanes! I hope you get back to Polar Seal soon!
Thanks! I am continually learning from you guys! Looking forward to Ryan's book. Andy is impressive and I'm hoping someday to book a learning passage on Isbjorn...after the pandemic...
Hi Don! As a former crew on Isbjörn, I thoroughly recommend passages with 59 North. I did one without Ryan before we cast off the line in 2018, and it was a huge confidence booster! :)
@@RyanSophieSailing I really like your channel! As a EE, I appreciate the thorough treatment of complicated subjects! (and Sophie is smart AND beautiful! nice combo) This darn pandemic! I see that the 59-North Caribbean cruises are on hold :-( one more thing, I especially liked: I'd rather be on the ground wishing I was flying than flying wishing I was on the ground...makes so much sense...sometimes the thirst for adventure can get me into trouble...
Risk management in dream boat life is my jam 🤙✌️ -> all this is applicable to several risky activities -> boating, flying, motorbiking and even having a surgery ….
Nice video, thx! I might use it as teaching material ;) Hope that book is coming along, if I can help with reviewing it or so let me know! I'm not a pro on the subject, but have thought about it a lot and teach little bits of it to teenagers on Broadreach trips. I think that on one of those I briefly met Andy, in the Tobago Keys, back in 2014 or so, but can't say I know him. One aspect or risk management I like to stress is that impact/severity is usually reduced/mitigated with equipment, e.g. survival suits, fire-extinguishers, etc. Whereas likelihood is reduced by good habits and attitudes.
Great video. Just a question... the boat must have 2 engines? Is that correct? If so could you not use one engine at a time. I crossed the Atlantic from CapeTown to Fort Lauderdale and we used one engine at a time. 😁. Granted it was a sailing catamaran.
I am not a sailor but this was very interesting because it could apply to other areas. People get in trouble because they don't think things through nor understand the consequences of their actions. I personally have used the thinking it through process in my business of selling office furniture.
It was nice hearing the discussion about risk management. At the end however when I was expecting it but didn’t hear it, I was screaming Je t’en prie! 😅
The allure of adventure is very seductive. Risk and especially overcoming the risks is what sparks the challenge and keeps it interesting and fun. The infatuation period with rosey ideas is the treacherous part. To use a sailing metaphor from Odysseus, if you want to enjoy the infatuation and live to tell about it, just strap yourselves to the mast and sail by those sirens luring you onto the rocks with their songs while your crew ignores your commands and averts the dangers. --"de rien"
Really good video you 3 ! a lot of solid information on background considerations that isn't always apparent in You Tube sailing videos . Kudo's to Mr Andy for creating a shelter for refugee sailors / there's probably a good market for a B & B business out there with that angle ? and I'd have watched this anyways just for Ms Sophies sense of humour and " joie du vivre " which you bring to all the videos ;-) ;-) ;-)
I think you did the admirable thing and it is good that the owners benefit by having a lower risk alternative and getting to enjoy their wonderful boat in the environment it was built for. The real courage was shown by making that decision.
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Wow. Such an interesting and crucial discussion. And it's really wonderful that the owners of the boat took your concerns to heart, and opted for safety themselves. You undoubtedly helped them learn a lot about their own boat and their own approach to risk. Everybody benefitted, even if it was hard to do.
This is truly one of the best examples of External Pressures I've ever heard. Glad you guys were able to resist that pressure and make the safe, but very hard, decision.
One of the external pressures we didn’t discuss in this video is that we really like the owners, and felt like absolute party poopers when we approached them with all the topics discussed in this video. It broke our hearts and we felt really shitty about it. At the end of the day, we’re all safe and happy, pursuing our respective adventures, but it was hard to see that back then. /Sophie
@@RyanSophieSailing definitely another pressure. Typically though, external pressures examples don't usually lead to actually being homeless. That's quite a new level and I'm proud of you guys for still making that difficult decision.
Also, I agree with Ryan: 6am (or earlier!) is a good time to get your work-day stuff started. Waiting until 10am or later is just blasphemy! :)
@@RyanSophieSailing I can understand how you felt about letting them down like that but it then made the Owners realise that there was something in your decision and forced their hand at coming up with a safer solution. Yes it might've cost them a lot more getting it shipped to it's destination but the boat was safe, the people on it were safe and there was no deaths at sea, that has got to be the best outcome.
Even though I have very little sailing experience, I found this interesting conversation well worth 26 minutes of my life. The safety factors/themes were expressed super-well amongst this great trio of fine people.
Aaaah thanks Micky! This comment made me smile :)
"We have to protect that freedom" Good words Andy.
We cannot protect anything but we can be like pirates and and just leave the bean counters in there office's
Excellent discussion Ryan, Sophie and Andy! Loved the PAVE risk management model. I love bringing aviation safety practices into our boating. Thank you!
@@milkoberben2963 We can do our parts to set the right examples to show that there is in fact a responsible sector of the ocean sailing world.
@@59NorthSailing I guess the human condition will dictate that the 2000 recreational boat channel crossings will attract the interest and attention of virtually no one. But just do that one thing, like run into a cross channel ferry and the world will want to know all about it, and will have an opinion about who did what right and wrong.
@@59NorthSailing I like to believe that ever since I was in the sea scouts at 13 or so we were thought to leave only our foot prints on the sand before up coming tide...
This 2 part series is some of the best youtube videos I have watched. Should be required viewing for anybody going to buy, rent or crew on any boat. Excellent presentation of how to deal with safety and the risk factors involved with watercraft. Keep up the excellent
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As someone who is a risk management consultant, who has made that passage, and who is a private pilot, your videos here have been excellent in my view. Great work!
Whew! Always makes me nervous when real professionals watch this stuff ;) Glad we covered it properly!
Wow. Thank you so much Daniel, your comment meant a lot! Ditto Andy, glad we passed that test ;) /Sophie
Nice to see Ryan so passionate about a subject he knows and believes in. I was trained in risk management but with people. I worked in the Criminal justice sector. But now with a life in sailing it all fits in the same way. I so enjoyed this video. I am the one on our boat that naturally looks at risk... second nature. You guys made a difficult but right decision. Good luck on your future voyages.
These two videos are the most important you ever did. Congrats- learned so much. Thank you!
Thanks Thomas, those videos were really difficult to make as this was a sensitive topic. It took us a lot of thinking and attention to semantics to produce it and I am glad you appreciated them. I’m even happier if it makes those who watched them think twice next time they are faced with a really difficult decision! :) /Sophie
@@RyanSophieSailing I think you realy did it maximal professional, sensitive and empathicaly. A very hard and not easy to achieve combination.
Proud of both of you for thinking safety first. Thanks Andy, for you and Mia being their best friends and consultants.
It's a mutual love ;)
@@59NorthSailing you and your family have a Blessed Christmas and safe and healthy New Year!
It's one of those quite rare, but most sensible videos on sailing.
As a qualified UK risk assessor I think this is a great video - I’ll be interested to read your book. This is one of the most important aspects of sailing - safety must come first but we still need that adventure - mitigating risks is the way. Good job. You made the right choice and you’ve nothing to be embarrassed about 👍👍
Thank you for sharing your story! I so appreciate your emphasis on safety and putting these types of videos on RUclips. 👏
Thanks Julie, we’re glad you appreciate it :)
Thanks so much for posting these retrospective videos. You’re doing us all a great service by talking about the realities of ocean cruising, rather than concentrating on the instaperfect slices of your life aboard.
Two interesting video's and a great conclusion by the owners of the boat, that they too perceived the risk and had the boat shipped. A happy ending all round 👏👏👏
Thank you for this informational/educational video! Yes I am an armchair sailor, still hopefully, some day, I just might be able to have everything aligned and I too can enjoy the freedom, the sunsets, the magic of the wind filling the sails! So, again, thank you for such awesome info! PAVE can easily be applied to any aspects of life, professions. And, any educational sailing advice you can give is invaluable coming from the higher caliber sailors that you are! I can't waste my invaluable time watching reckless sailors that I have come across on RUclips!
You’re not the type of armchair sailors I referred to at the beginning of this video Carol, I can promise you that ;) /Sophie
You mentioned that most of us watch for the fun past of sailing..true..however some of us enjoy the more technical side of things (also the fun stuff) we are getting ready to buy and live aboard/sail 2022 and appreciate all info we can get..love your channel..thank you
I have my own boat so doing all the fun stuff, I watch you guys to make sure I learn from you and the fun stuff stays fun. For example after your experience with diesel bug on the way to the Canaries I fitted a header tank with a Racor between the main and header. Now I can polish the fuel en route.
Hi John! I’m so happy our mishap with the diesel bug helped you avoid a similar situation! That’s why I believe in being truthful about our experiences, both good and... less successful 😅 (PS: we now carry A LOT more filters than we used to back then and are really warried of our fuel) /Sophie
I have a firefighter background where risk management takes on a similar approach. My concern with any motor vessel would be fuel as well. I would have made the same choice, I just would have made it earlier than you two, not to say you guys were wrong. At the time you made your decision to go, you as you stated in the previous video, did not know what you did not know. Thank you for sharing. I know it must not have been easy.
We also wish we would have figured it all out sooner, but such is life sometimes! All is well in the end and we learned a lot. But as you say, it was not easy... at all! :/
Hey Ryan and Sophie, just watched your two videos on risks and decisions on why not to cross the Atlantic and we found it really useful. You guys are paving the way in bringing reality to the sailing community. Its really comforting to listen to your reasoning along with having Andy as an advocate and sounding board. Its really honest, positive and a helpful summary on tricky decision making. We love you guys! Keep it up and we look forward to seeing Polar Seal out and about very soon!!! Who knows, we may pump into you in the Caribbean very soon!
Thank you VERY MUCH for both videos. Besides being interesting, they were also intriguing and thought provoking. I am in my mid 70's and am finding that I am not evaluating risks like I used to. Instead, I rely on the "we have always done it this way with no problem, so why make a change". That approach totally ignores the enVironment element, and in this year of the pandemic, there are more changes than can be counted.
That’s awesome Thomas! Glad you got something out of it :) /Sophie
Another aviation idea, The Accident Chain. Any accident is the sum of a chain of events. Both of you, even though you agonized over the decision, broke the chain of events. Awesome!
Very true! I think the slices of Swiss cheese analogy in part 1 is another way of looking at it.
You two are very classy people. I admire the way you went about talking about the details of a difficult decision. You never shamed the owners for the Power boat.
Great video and advice every sailor can use to insure the safety of themselves and their crew for future adventures.
You have summarized what we all need to know but sometimes don't want to accept for fear of missing out!
THANK YOU!
Great breakdown! As a long time aviation professional and boater, it definitely gives me a lot to think of and tie my safety background to my boating background. As hard as it is to pull the plug on a flight or passage it is a great method of risk assessment
It’s REALLY hard though 😕 but if someone can learn something out of it, then it’s worth it!
It’s great to see a discussion about these issues and approaches on RUclips. You made a really good call. Thank you.
Great wrap-up to this two part analysis. In the PAVE discussion, EXTERNAL PRESSURES (aka “Get Home-it is” ) was perhaps the principal factor that caused the delay in making your go-no go decision. An added bonus in this story is that your decision to bail on this adventure likely precipitated some soul searching by the owners that ultimately resulted in their (wise) decision to ship the old Hatteras. Win-Win for all parties involved and you should give yourselves some credit for that.
Keeping it real is a unique and the most interesting aspect of your videos...carry on!
A great part 2. I'm glad you recognized it's about adventure. Sometimes you just have to go to learn what you have to learn, yet, your conversation makes that so much safer! Well done.
Great lessons shared guys. My background is engineering and construction project management, tho fortunately now retired. Risk management was always a part of project management. And after flying on small charter flights across Canada's Arctic, I am glad that the aviation sector had the PAVE awareness. In my world, we were taught that a project debrief should occur at the end of every project. It seldom does cause there is no glory in it. Thanks to you all for doing this, its not the fun in the sun sailing stuff, but it is so important. Good luck on the journey.
Ryan, I didn't know you flew the Viper. I've flown a lot of airplanes over the past 60 years and the F-16 is in a class by itself, by far the most amazing airplane of the bunch. I'd noticed that you and I approach safety from the same direction. Now I understand why. I loved to hear you say, "It's better to be on the ground wishing you were in the air than to be in the air wishing you were on the ground." Been there, done that!
G R E A T !!! I loved that 2 episode video so much. That is the core of knowledge you should have to go sailing either coastal or ocean going vessels. Thank you so much for having us along with you in that invaluable lesson. Sailing is not only getting on a boat. YOU showed all us that's a lot more. THANK YOU
Totally agree with Andy - better preparation and knowledge to avoid regulation...
Great information Ryan , Sophie and Andy.
Thanks for sharing this awkward situation. We have that much more respect for you now for being transparent and for being respectful to the owners of the motor yacht.
Thanks very much for the debrief. It was very refreshing to see detailed analysis in a sailing vlog. Having Andy there too was great.
yeah... we were really happy with how it turned out. Ryan
Amazed that Professional Captain Andy was able to assist in your decision making while wrestling storms and sailing!
I have run 33’-44’ racing sailboats for Owners after long-distance races.
Sometimes the Owners would join. Rarely enjoyably. Boat delivery is not a “cruise”.
Have also had to deal with “crew” that failed in challenging times when on the water. You learn to not trust anybody that has not been “tested” with you on the boat.
Heck, I will not get on anything that floats unless I believe it is “safe”. Asking questions and physically inspecting everything yourself is the only way.
Great video series and I agree that your decision Not to Sail saved you two & the Owner great grief or worse!
Excellent series on risk management. We admire your humility and sharing this with us and lessons learned which many sailors avoid to discuss. BTW Andy is a great mentor. Big thumbs up😊
I'm just having fun ;)
Great video! Love how you guys open up your lives, show your humanity & make it real.
What a great series. Good lessons even for non-sailors. Glad to hear that the couple you were going to cross with opted to play it safe and ship their yacht.
Intelligent, insightful, introspective, respectful. Great job. I am ordering a signed first edition now!
Hahaha :) thanks Joe, I’ll inform the captain that he’d better get back to work!
Liked the two vlogs around sailing and Risk Management. It's one of the reasons I watch al the different sailing vlogs. Next to just go out and get experienced with sailing and have fun. It's all about willing to learn from others and prep your vessel to the best you can for bigger adventures. Plus always be aligned with your own feelings. They keep you safe. Thanks! PS I hope adventures will never be constraint by having a license.
That’s great! Glad you got a little something out of it :)
Sophie, Ryan, and Andy, thanks for this video. I have always been pretty careful when sailing to make sure my seamanship matched what I was doing. Being trained is important. I wish I had had the risk analysis perspective to organize my thoughts. I think I would have enjoyed my sailing even more. I would always be anxious before a sail wondering if I had thought of everything. This type of thought process would have allowed more excitement and less anxiousness. Maybe a title for your book could be: "Take the Worry Out of Sailing".
Thank you Sophie, Ryan, and Andy for this methodical approach to sorting out a usually emotional situation. Looking forward to Ryan's book.
Excellent topic and well presented. I would like to add that the total freedom you have when you go sailing also implies you have the total responsibility for your own safety. And as a captain you also carry the responsibility for the safety of the vessel. I read your website with respect to the rules when someone wants to join you sailing and I can't agree more. I recall some of my crew sometimes looking at me as being pedantic about explaining the rules regarding safety. And certainly good even worse looks when I started yelling to avoid an imminent disaster. However I have seen injuries and so far (30+ seasons of sailing experience) after incidents I always walked away without personal permanent injuries, other then a dent in my ego :-)
Good stuff! This made me pull out my Excel risk management sheet from work and apply it to our current boat buying process. Can‘t believe I didn’t think of this before 🤦♀️
Oh wahoo, that’s amazing! Good luck with the boat buying project, and don’t hesitate to drop us an email if we can be of any help :)
Congrats, with this decision and the videos to this topic you climbed the next step to be real experienced sailors.
As a man long since retired from an aviation and safety life, I found this a very thoughtful and sensible conversation which helped me understand what you had gone through. I hope you get moving with your chosen life again soon, you deserve it.
Thanks John! We may be sitting in an airplane en route to curaçao as I am writing this (but you haven’t heard me say anything! 😉 🤫)
Very well done... a lot to think about in this presentation. An eye opener for me. Thanks.
Great discussion! Can’t wait for the book : )
Very educational video guys!!!! Part 1 and 2 are great for those that we are getting in the sailing world! Thank you Ryan, Sophie and Andy!!!! You are awesome!
This is probably the most thought provoking and informative video you've done to date. Merci!
Expertly presented as always. It was great to see Andy. Stay safe.
Thanks David!
This was so great. Really hoping you do more like this (and can’t wait for Ryan’s book).
A great couple of videos, an excellent topic and well presented. I've been following a fair number of sailing channels and I don't recall any of them discussing risk management in the manner you have ( Well, maybe Riley from SLV whilst on passage but only as it applied to his current situation) I especially loved the - Better to be on the ground wishing your were flying - analogy . I'm gonna use that somewhere down the line. Thanks again and Happy Holidays :-)
The most informative sailing videos i have seen so far. Je vous en remercie.
Thanks! I’m glad you got something out of it :)
Really informative video, and as you guys have so rightly pointed out, this is a serious topic but is often set aside, when it should be spoken about much more openly. I think anyone who wishes to take to the seas and oceans of the world, should do so after putting themselves through numerous courses relating to sailing, navigation and general seamanship (as I am currently doing myself). Keep up the great work!
Absolutely agree with that..
Ok guys. I’ve watched this video after my night shift. I’m sorry, I apologise for my previous reaction. I also think you’ve made the best decisions. Especially when you said that they shipped the boat. I also agree with Andy’s conclusions, that’s also how I feel about it. I work in the shipping industry, you won’t believe the things I see. That’s why I skyrocketed. I do want to add something to this knowledge. Most of the times, and by that I mean about 90%, you’re gut feeling or instinct is right, head on. Like you mentioned in part one. It’s like the “i should reef” feeling. It’s very hard to follow that feeling because the mind interferes with that. You guys had the guts to follow it. Because you followed your instincts, the boat owners also started to follow their instincts contagiously. And they made the right decision. A chain reaction i guess. CHAIN REACTIOON 🎤🎤. You know... The BeeGees?
Anyway I’m sorry. :)
Hahaha! Thanks, I’m glad you watched the second part! And you made me realize that I shouldn’t have cut the video in two parts to begin with. I cut it at a place that made it hard for viewers to understand the message we were trying to convey. My initial intention was to make it really difficult for the viewers only looking for sensationalism to find the “reasons why we left” and I am sure I have achieved “difficulty”. But it also left a lot of people, like you, frustrated because our intention was unclear (I believe). In a few weeks, the world will have forgotten about those videos. But maybe someday, somewhere, someone will find themselves in a tough spot and will remember that we made a difficult decision to pull the plug because of an initial “gut feeling” followed by a more thorough risk analysis. Maybe that person will remember the few concepts we talked about, and maybe they will find the courage to make a tough call. We’ll never know :) but that’s why we wanted to talk about this. Super thanks for watching! /Sophie
@@RyanSophieSailing Sophie. It was unclear. That’s true. But my reaction wasn’t appropriate, and thats the end of it. Your intentions where right, thats all that matters. So I guess...maybe thats why things came along? Anyway, the risk analysis was pretty good, really. You guys made the right call. Maybe this episode, maybe it’ll find it’s way somehow. Whatever you do. Don’t give up. Life throws curveballs, remember? An idea here: Maybe you should do an old school navigation sailing episode. Andy is pretty good at it I believe... Give your friend some free advertising, he did so much for you guys. I love the people he is sailing with. You should share that. Anyway, thanks for sharing. Remember it are hard times for everyone, so don’t worry to much about YT. Safety comes first ;)
Great discussion and highlighting the open disclosure culture of aviation.
Well done guys. I had to pause the video many times because my mind drifted away to those times that I was so excited to go that I let my Risk management be overruled by pressures and excitement. Reminds me of a cartoon I saw of people in a boat heading for a rock smiling and the caption ( Ignorance is bliss and damned aren't we happy)
Thanks for sharing what was clearly a difficult, emotional and somewhat traumatizing decision especially because it left you homeless in the midst of the pandemic. Ultimately, you stuck to your safety principles which you chose because they make what can be a very dangerous proposition (crossing the Atlantic) as safe as possible. Thanks for sharing those too, as well as Andy's insights which are great. I'm new to your channel so when I saw that you were getting on a 1975 motor yacht, I was a little dubious. I've seen your recent videos so I knew you got back to Curacao safely but I (still) don't know how. More videos to watch I guess. I've been sailing for a few years in San Francisco and along the West Coast and am considering purchasing a boat in the near future so I love all your decision making and your openness with the ups and downs.
Great decision ... you are alive and talking about it and in the process everyone got to learn some fundamental basics about adventures where risks are very different than walking down the street or driving through town. Well done!
A lot of lessons here to learn from (from the purchase to passage making and the real understanding of "risk management"). Thanks for sharing!
Hey! thanks Bill! Nice to see you here! :)
My wife and I and sometimes our son got to sail as often as possible with a friend of ours (on mountain lakes in Colorado) and Al was quite aware of safety factors, including basic training of new crew in raising and lowering of sails. His boat had three different jibs and a storm main sail (I don't recall its proper name) and over the years we encountered situations where all the sails were used. In mountain lakes the environment can go from wonderful to deadly in a matter of seconds. Thank you for these videos (all of them but especially these last two)
Thanks Rick! Happy you appreciated it! :)
Such a good video this is... A true "must see" for all who think it's just a "pleasure cruise" Hats off to you all !!!!
Well done. Right decision. Really helpful for the rest of us.
Great video. Thank you for sharing the experience and knowledge of the decision process. Well done.
The fun (for this guy who's never sailed out of sight of land) is getting to know these characters. And they do a great job of letting us know them. Andy looks Arrogant, but he isn't at all. Ryan is adorable (Sophie will agree) looks humble and bashful, and yet is a super hero man of steel. And Sophie too is adorable, and subtle in her self-mockery and play (also super hero of steel.) It's been a great pleasure to share your journey, not to mention informative. Now, I guess, on to something stupid on RUclips.
Lol, I am cursed - my 'focused' face looks like I want to kill someone. I'm a softie at heart :)
@@59NorthSailing Clearly you are a softy, offering safe haven. I have the same curse.
So you had an adventure after all, just not the one you expected :) . I think you did the right thing, thanks for sharing, even if you help to prevent one other from making a fatal mistake, the video was worth it. Thanks. I will be happy when I see you home on your boat, best of luck getting back to Polar Seal.
Ha, that's a good point, still had an adventure!
Greta video, só much experience shared, thank you só much for taking the time TO do this video cheers from Portugal
Thank you very much for your insight and analysis. As a surgeon, private pilot and boat owner for 25 and more years, I can confirm that a good risk management is paramount. My father was a chief surgeon, responsible for flight safety from the medical side, signing of pilots for their missions. From his reports I learned at an early age to assess risks and plan accordingly. Looking forward to read your book. Hope to meet you sometime on the ocean. Best regards ;)
Oh man, you guys are actual badasses! That’s incredible, I am sure you have quite the stories! /Sophie
Ryan here. I have a lot of respect for flight surgeons. Even though it was a flight surgeon that ended up air force days it was how they went about their jobs that I loved.
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This was an amazing series. Thank you so much,
A great recap of the episode. My guess is that a lot of boaters learned a good methodical approach to eliminating at least the really bad choices we can make from boating. I am recommending these videos to my friends.
Merci à tous les deux,une paire de vidéos vraiment excellente et pour le coup pas du tout classiques dans ce domaine.
A good one, two punch about complex problem solving for favorable outcomes. Again Thank you for sharing this story. One thing to add, you most likely help a new boat owner also to make a good call and modeled some effective behaviors. It is always better to be part of a solution.
If at the end of the day, this video helps one person make a better decision for them, it will definitely be worth taking a few negative comments here and there for it :) /Sophie
Hard stuff, good stuff - I like your way to show your point of view.
Not only on land we say : SAFETY FIRST. It’s much more important at sea.
As a Skipper we are responsible for us and our crew.
We have not only to speak and discuss about safety, we have to live and to show the safe way.
I like Andy too,
This was a perfect conversation. One thing you did keep on "ignoring" was the "External Pressure." You mentioned it many times and gave great examples... but it was "External Pressure" that was truly what drove your decisions until you realized that all the other PAV was not exactly where it needed to be. Emotions kept pushing you until other things "broke." And as you so clearly pointed out... you made the right choice for the right reasons. Well done. This was truly a great series. Bravo!!!
Awesome follow up video. I went to a boating safety course done by the US Coast Guard Auxillary and they did a risk management segment. They gave us a GAR score card. I don't recall what the acronym stands for but you score each of 6 categories on a scale of 1 thru 10. Add the scores up. A low numbers is low risk and a higher is more risk... It's a good exercise for me to better decide to go out or not. Look forward to getting Ryan's book.
Green Amber Red (level of risk)
Engine temp is function of cooling system, a little tweaking could get you where you need to be.
Not sure what diesel you got but 800 rpm is plenty for most larger older diesels.
Second, with wind behind you I would have definitely consider a parasail, would have been fun to see that and educational for all the steam pots runners out there. All problems can be solved, that is the fun part.
Excellent. The best video you have put out. Many thanks.
I knew it, i pulled the engine specs for all the engines available on this model and read the engine testing graphs for rpm to fuel consumption. The graphs i got where for a brand new engine and the same conclusion i came too. Factors where weather, fuel, total weight, route, maintenance, age of the components and reserves. I did the calculations too and i couldn't see it working. Never take the Ocean for granted.
Yes, this is what we feel we should have done prior to taking on the offer but... aren’t we all smarter hindsight? :) and as Ryan says, there is a trust balancing act. Anyhow, we have no regrets and hope that others can learn from our experience! /Sophie
@@RyanSophieSailing talking about engines whats Ryans thoughts on ruclips.net/video/xohxmwPfctg/видео.html
hybrid diesel electric looks very interesting
This two part video was fantastic. I hold a private pilot licence and a glider licence, PAVE works, as do checklists. For me, if the thought passes through your mind that maybe you shouldn't go today, listen to it. Having a timetable to follow is a huge external pressure. NTSB (or the authority of that jurisdiction) conducts detailed reviews of aviation accidents and incidents for the purpose of educating persons to hopefully not repeat the same errors. Are there places where a person can find Official reviews of sailing incidents. My dad used to say "a wise man learns by his mistakes, a wiser man learns from the mistakes of others", he may not have penned that but he made sure we knew it. Thank you for posting this, I'm sure it will help others make decisions with their heads not hearts.
Outstanding 2 part series.
Thanks Bob!
Nice to finally hear the reasons for this difficult decision.
Very, very helpful! Thanks for sharing this.
I work in Healthcare and risk management and quality is critical and can be applied to any area. I agree the airline industry was one of the first to get there. I did my masters thesis on Challenger mission failure which was very insightful
Wow so impressive thinking process + actions taken => everyone survived !
Despite your total lack of common sense you managed to reach the right conclusion albeit with considerable angst. You are a perfect trio to get through everyday life..The two of you and your analyst.
Hey! Thanks for watching ML! Great feedback :)
Lol I can be an analyst!
@@59NorthSailing 😆😆😆
What an amazing two part video!! Love it... I think you all have some serious content possibilities for a Podcast / Show. I think the QuarterDeck might need a Female sailing perspective- to discuss major and current events in the Sailing Community and of course product reviews from time to time- I think of you make it interactive with the sailing community- you could SERIOUSLY pull some numbers In, Globally... Just a one off thought guys- hope to see more content like this one n your channel or Ryan’s Tech-Talk... 🙏🙏
We just launched the QUARTERDECK podcast, free wherever you listen to podcasts, which will touch on a lot of this stuff. And you'll get a lot of female perspective. Mia is very active on the podcast, as is our newest 59 North team member Emma Garschagen, my mate on ICEBEAR and soon to be podcast co-host.
Sound decision making. You touched on CRM, crew resource management, but that is more important underway although with an extended time prior to setting off, it would be playing out as you all got to know each other. Out of interest what were the fuel calculations? I aim to take my Nordhavn 47 across from Europe to the Caribbean next winter but even with a purpose built ocean crosser, it is still important to have an accurate fuel plan. I have a similar background to you Ryan and find that at 63, I am much more risk averse than I was when I was blasting around in aeroplanes! I hope you get back to Polar Seal soon!
Outstanding. I am a fellow pilot & considering sailing. Great job!!!!!
You made the right decision, and it was a tough one, stop “ beating your self up!”
Thanks for sharing your story all the way to the end ;)
Very enlightening
Thanks! I am continually learning from you guys! Looking forward to Ryan's book. Andy is impressive and I'm hoping someday to book a learning passage on Isbjorn...after the pandemic...
Hi Don! As a former crew on Isbjörn, I thoroughly recommend passages with 59 North. I did one without Ryan before we cast off the line in 2018, and it was a huge confidence booster! :)
@@RyanSophieSailing I really like your channel! As a EE, I appreciate the thorough treatment of complicated subjects! (and Sophie is smart AND beautiful! nice combo) This darn pandemic! I see that the 59-North Caribbean cruises are on hold :-( one more thing, I especially liked: I'd rather be on the ground wishing I was flying than flying wishing I was on the ground...makes so much sense...sometimes the thirst for adventure can get me into trouble...
Welcome aboard Don!
Risk management in dream boat life is my jam 🤙✌️ -> all this is applicable to several risky activities -> boating, flying, motorbiking and even having a surgery ….
Nice video, thx! I might use it as teaching material ;)
Hope that book is coming along, if I can help with reviewing it or so let me know! I'm not a pro on the subject, but have thought about it a lot and teach little bits of it to teenagers on Broadreach trips. I think that on one of those I briefly met Andy, in the Tobago Keys, back in 2014 or so, but can't say I know him.
One aspect or risk management I like to stress is that impact/severity is usually reduced/mitigated with equipment, e.g. survival suits, fire-extinguishers, etc. Whereas likelihood is reduced by good habits and attitudes.
Great video. Just a question... the boat must have 2 engines? Is that correct? If so could you not use one engine at a time. I crossed the Atlantic from CapeTown to Fort Lauderdale and we used one engine at a time. 😁. Granted it was a sailing catamaran.
I am not a sailor but this was very interesting because it could apply to other areas. People get in trouble because they don't think things through nor understand the consequences of their actions. I personally have used the thinking it through process in my business of selling office furniture.
That's exactly it - this kind of thinking applies to lots of scenarios.
It was nice hearing the discussion about risk management. At the end however when I was expecting it but didn’t hear it, I was screaming Je t’en prie! 😅
Great job on this. Thanks for putting it out there.
The allure of adventure is very seductive. Risk and especially overcoming the risks is what sparks the challenge and keeps it interesting and fun. The infatuation period with rosey ideas is the treacherous part. To use a sailing metaphor from Odysseus, if you want to enjoy the infatuation and live to tell about it, just strap yourselves to the mast and sail by those sirens luring you onto the rocks with their songs while your crew ignores your commands and averts the dangers. --"de rien"
Really good video you 3 ! a lot of solid information on background considerations that isn't always apparent in You Tube sailing videos .
Kudo's to Mr Andy for creating a shelter for refugee sailors / there's probably a good market for a B & B business out there with that angle ?
and I'd have watched this anyways just for Ms Sophies sense of humour and " joie du vivre " which you bring to all the videos ;-) ;-) ;-)
I think you did the admirable thing and it is good that the owners benefit by having a lower risk alternative and getting to enjoy their wonderful boat in the environment it was built for. The real courage was shown by making that decision.
To be embarrassed and alive is a good thing. Better than the alternative!