"The greatest sign of maturity as an artist is the ability to walk away from a canvas that isn't serving you." -Butch 2020 "Believe it until you achieve it." - Butch 2020
I think, in my own personal experience we all inherently want help, but for a lot of us there's this real voice in the back of our head telling us "no one is willing to spend that time with us to actually help. Everyone is busy and/or will only help if you pay them money for their time." This is a real thing so many of us face and there's a lot of truth in that. Most people, even if they want the help just can't find it or can't find a person willing to give it without charging them money they barely have to spend. So a lot of us just resort to doing the best we can learning by ourselves through trial and error. It's easy to say "just ask for help" until you start asking and no one is willing to answer. It's not impossible, but it's enormously harder than "just ask for help".
"You write your own rules of engagement for the life you are living.... You have (only) to realize that you have the ability to write those rules" Bob 2020
"There's thousands of designers but there's only one of you designing with all of your causes and conditions, circumstances... be 100% you" Thanks Futur for making this available for all of us
What I hear and observe is that you all speak well. Sometimes, speaking comes naturally depending on your family or educational environment. You develop a good vocabulary that becomes a part of your DNA. Melinda's a good speaker. She's thoughtful and chooses her words, well. It just seems to flow for her. From the vocabulary that she uses to how clear and succinctly she communicates, Melinda inspires me. Of course, Chris Do is a rock star speaker. He's been teaching and speaking for a long time. It's like weight training, playing a musical instrument or anything else. Sometimes it comes easily and for others, it's practice, practice, practice. Thanks to Bob and Butch for sharing all their experiences and knowledge. I love all the content and videos that you post on The Futur!
The more people pay, the more they value what they've paid for. When we get things for free, typically we don't value it or use it to its full potential. So charging people for your time or teaching helps them to value what they've gotten, and compels them to make use of it, because they've invested in it. They'll have a better experience, they'll feel better about it, and they'll actually apply the education in their life.
This was such a hearty and wholesome talk, I learned so much from Bob, Butch, Chris and Lindsay. I was immersed in every part of this convo, because im at the point in my career of finding myself and what my real passion is and how I can impact and help people.
10:35 Gotta get those reps in to build your skills. I feel that. Build your ability to say no, but you have to have the cred to do it. A good nuance that add to what Chris usually advocates.
Listening to this today. Can't agree more with "finding a mentor" part. School can only get you so far, yet experiences bring you forward and upward. Thank you =)
Guys, don't discount your advice for being ONLY the young designers. I am 45 and have worn many hats in my 20 year design and art career - this stuff is GOLD for us ALL. This channel is not just to educate young designers. Age is irrelevant these days when we can all be newbies, even with decades of experience. But we are in a youth obsessed world but as Gary V says, any age is the right age to start. So no more reversed age-ism ;)
Favourite take away: Learn how to learn! Learn the things you've always wanted to learn: languages, music, math, history...Learn to enjoy and to share.
11:58/2:02:21 "Whatever the mind can conceive and believe, it can achieve" "As a man thinketh so is he" "Men acquire a particular quality by constantly acting a certain way." The Balance: When the balloon one blows up is burst, will we find air or solid gold shaped in the form of the balloon? What will this depend on? The Answer: How your 'Free' but extremely expensive time is *invested* There is years of content here on @The Futur in many realms to concretely fill in any blanks anyone may genuinely have in any areas, but are you willing to carefully invest the time to study it. This channel is in no way, shape or form a 'chewing gum and celotape fix it' channel unless you are a video skipper. Shout out to those here since 'the Skool'
"Knowing when to ask for help is a sign of intelligence" There is a reason business have more than 1 employee. Get over wanting to be a one man band and focus on what it will take to meet your client's needs.
Getting a mentor is not easy. How did Melinda get Chris as a mentor? Free? That's great. What did Melinda do to stand out? What is the community? Is it the Pro Group? I plan to join at some point. I love all the info and knowledge. You guys rock!
I know of someone who paid $24,000 for a 40min sit down talk , that talk made him over $100,000,000.. the person who was paid $24,000 was Michael Jackson”s old business lawyer, The person who made over $100,000,000 from that talk was CEO Master P
I really love this kind of content. I'd watch it if it'd be even three hours longer! :) And this episode is amazing! What a pity they can't pay you properly. I would love to see you in Germany !
This is a great video as always ,Some really great gems in here. Also love what the guys said about being fired. I got fired from my job 10 months ago, started my solo business , landed a few decent clients , but the last one fired me and that totally crushed me. So watching this video and learning that business is full of ups and downs is really eye opening and it Inspires me to keep pushing on. Anyway great video guys.
I didn't have the resources and accessibility to this info when I was in college either, back in 90(cough,cough). But thinking about whether it was the best way to learn, going to college, I think for me it was. At that age of 18, I needed that structure to get me through the course of learning. I wouldn't have had the discipline to learn it whether I was passionate about it or not. I wouldn't have had the knowledge to learn things sequentially within the program and I think that would be helpful to the understanding and progression of learning about something. I think the structure and the theory was valuable but as far as learning what I do now, I probably learned more in the first 6 months of my first job than I did in my college career. However, the basis of design theory, history, and the structure of the courses was valuable. I draw from that knowledge daily in my work now and that gives me a deeper understanding of things and I can apply it conceptually or within a method compared to those that might just learn the process. I probably could've learned it on my own but the opportunity to learn amongst my peers was also helpful. Could I have done it at that age, probably not. Too many distractions and not enough discipline or maturity. The school setting and structure helped lay it out for me. If I were in my late 20s then perhaps that's another question, but maybe we're not paying just for the knowledge but also the program laid out for us, which helps us navigate the learning process. For some people there is something to be said about being put in the thick of it, working your way through things, with others, competing, learning, sharing ideas, interacting, etc. That's what I needed at that time in my life. Was it worth 20-some grand, maybe not but I don't think I could've learned it on my own. I think what college did provide me was not only the learning structure but the foundation for design and the ability to apply it. Learning it on my own I think I would have the knowledge but not the experience of doing and that's the difference for me. I always thought it was a waste of time but it built the fundamentals to be able to create with a deeper meaning conceptually than some who may have been self-taught. I think you can learn to design stuff without college but you can't apply the experiences and knowledge into your design if you don't have them. Sometimes it shows. So, as far as learning how to work with applications and applying it, I probably learned more online and in the workplace. But as far as being able to design, I pull from all my experiences and knowledge I gained by going to college. So, it helped with the intellectual part of it. I still think it matters in the workforce though. Blind might be an exception as to not really caring about a degree and it being just about the work, but there are still a lot of companies out there who see a degree as a performance marker; that you were able to work through it and have the discipline, as well as having good work in your portfolio. Like you've been battle-tested prior to entering the workforce. That may change in years to come but I think college still has it's merits as of now. Chris talks about learning it on your own, if you're passionate about it you'll have the drive to do it. Some people may have that ability and he's probably one of those people, but I don't know a lot of 18 year olds who have that drive and discipline, me included. That's rare and that's an exceptional person. Some of us are average and have to work up to that with maturity and I think sometimes he has expectations that we should just be driven like him. It's not so black and white, we're all different, and don't all learn the same way. There are some who learn about places by reading about them in books and there are some who travel to those places. College was my journey. Trust me, I would've probably picked a different, faster, less expensive route, but that wasn't an option for me at the time.
I agree with you completely. I think I needed the system to push me. But I think Chris was trying to say that if we are willing to pay so much money for college, yet refuse to pay any amount for the same level (if not higher quality) of knowledge we can obtain from events and such, then it's hypocrisy. I think I agree with Chris here (which is why I sit through to watch ads on his videos and bought some of his products/services to pay back)
When you were talking about jumping the Gap, I was thinking of the Matrix where Neil has to jump from one building to the other building and when he falls, the crew said "no one makes it on the first try" I wonder if the Matrix influenced your thought process.
Now it got me an idea, why don't Futur build a new Conference Design Feria o sth like Comic Con? Inviting all those amazing artists, designers, different philosophers abt design, masters... In one place! Futur is the future!
I love the part about how much is it worth to you to save 5 years of struggle and trying to figure it out. That's exactly what I need my clients to think about. Because the shelf life of a professional model isn't very long and they don't have 5 years to figure out how to play this game and trust and believe it is a game, that involves managers, agents, the models and the clients that hire them. Me:: Oh, you want to hire your own photographer? Then go ask that photographer for some work too because you've invested in them now and not me.
26:33 I really like how you added some lighting tubes in the background to improve the detail of the blacks. After reading more into it, you may now start considering increasing your aperture number during shots, this shrinks the lens opening. Shrink the lens opening? Isn't that bad? Well people with glasses squint their eyes to make things sharper and in focus. Think George Costanza from Seinfeld. Of the two guys, one is out-of-focus in Super Mario bokeh Land 2: The lost levels. Consider bringing the camera in closer to the people to allow for a smaller aperture opening (larger F number) in low light. When choosing a focus point, your camera will pick up 33% in front of that point and 66% behind that point. So when focusing on those two guys, don't focus on the couch cushions that is 50% / 50% between them. Pick a focus point on the couch between them that is slightly closer to the guy near the camera. That way 33% of foreground depth will have some focus (Bob) while 66% of the background depth will be in focus (the couch and Butch). If you are shooting at 30 or 60 fps, you could crank it down to 24 to let in more light per frame since dividing light by 60 or 30 is a lot darker than dividing light by 24 times per second. Keep up the good content. As for the camera guy, never stop improving!
The Netherlands recently offered a little incentive for any freelancers making less than a certain amount of income. These people wouldn't need to charge VAT on their work which saves them (and the state) administrative work. However, as a freelance designer, not charging VAT to professional clients is immediately suspicious and you would have to explain to them that you're basically making a low income which undermines your leverage. So I much rather charge VAT and do my own accounting than admit that I may not be a very profitable designer to my client.
People are walking mirrors. Your internal state expresses itself outwards. Somebody hating on you, in reality, is hating on themselves. Btw money isn't everything guys, only about 90% :) #inspiringContent#CreativesTalkTheWalk#runningOutOfHashtags
I found a new channel to just learn about an industry I’m not a part of but love the mental expansion available with this!
"The greatest sign of maturity as an artist is the ability to walk away from a canvas that isn't serving you." -Butch 2020
"Believe it until you achieve it." - Butch 2020
An excuse to quit -Butch 2020
An excuse to succeed -Butch 2020
Maybe to succeed we need to quit sometimes?
There are so many gems in this. "Artists design for themselves, designers design for others."
“Believe it til you achieve it.” That is a brilliant quote. Love it. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽💜🔥
I think, in my own personal experience we all inherently want help, but for a lot of us there's this real voice in the back of our head telling us "no one is willing to spend that time with us to actually help. Everyone is busy and/or will only help if you pay them money for their time." This is a real thing so many of us face and there's a lot of truth in that. Most people, even if they want the help just can't find it or can't find a person willing to give it without charging them money they barely have to spend. So a lot of us just resort to doing the best we can learning by ourselves through trial and error. It's easy to say "just ask for help" until you start asking and no one is willing to answer. It's not impossible, but it's enormously harder than "just ask for help".
"You write your own rules of engagement for the life you are living.... You have (only) to realize that you have the ability to write those rules" Bob 2020
"There's thousands of designers but there's only one of you designing with all of your causes and conditions, circumstances... be 100% you"
Thanks Futur for making this available for all of us
Happy to
What I hear and observe is that you all speak well. Sometimes, speaking comes naturally depending on your family or educational environment. You develop a good vocabulary that becomes a part of your DNA. Melinda's a good speaker. She's thoughtful and chooses her words, well. It just seems to flow for her. From the vocabulary that she uses to how clear and succinctly she communicates, Melinda inspires me. Of course, Chris Do is a rock star speaker. He's been teaching and speaking for a long time. It's like weight training, playing a musical instrument or anything else. Sometimes it comes easily and for others, it's practice, practice, practice. Thanks to Bob and Butch for sharing all their experiences and knowledge. I love all the content and videos that you post on The Futur!
"The greatest sign of maturity as an artist is the ability to walk away from a canvas that isn't serving you." This is mind blowing! 🤟🏽
The more people pay, the more they value what they've paid for. When we get things for free, typically we don't value it or use it to its full potential. So charging people for your time or teaching helps them to value what they've gotten, and compels them to make use of it, because they've invested in it. They'll have a better experience, they'll feel better about it, and they'll actually apply the education in their life.
It was overall a great chat, but we could not expect less from Chris, geniuses gather around geneuses!!!
Thank you sirs! Superb content right here. Great (POSITIVE) discussion & ideas flowing back and forth... Please keep more like these talks coming.
Thanks for watching
This talk has been amazingly helpful, I love the candid casual approach. Thank you!
Glad to hear
such a beautiful and timely conversation
This was such a hearty and wholesome talk, I learned so much from Bob, Butch, Chris and Lindsay. I was immersed in every part of this convo, because im at the point in my career of finding myself and what my real passion is and how I can impact and help people.
Awesome!!
Absolutely loved this format!!
10:35 Gotta get those reps in to build your skills. I feel that.
Build your ability to say no, but you have to have the cred to do it. A good nuance that add to what Chris usually advocates.
Listening to this today. Can't agree more with "finding a mentor" part. School can only get you so far, yet experiences bring you forward and upward. Thank you =)
Thank you theFutur for all amazing content!!!
Just found your channel last week and damn it's the best thing! I believe 2020 will be a huge change for me with The Futur! Keep it up
Guys, don't discount your advice for being ONLY the young designers. I am 45 and have worn many hats in my 20 year design and art career - this stuff is GOLD for us ALL. This channel is not just to educate young designers.
Age is irrelevant these days when we can all be newbies, even with decades of experience. But we are in a youth obsessed world but as Gary V says, any age is the right age to start. So no more reversed age-ism ;)
Wow these chats are amazing. I'll be checking out the others for sure!
Brilliant talk all the way through, thanks guys!
Favourite take away: Learn how to learn! Learn the things you've always wanted to learn: languages, music, math, history...Learn to enjoy and to share.
This was absolutely fantastic. Solid group of people sharing some great knowledge!
the quality of live streams skyrocketed good job!
11:58/2:02:21
"Whatever the mind can conceive and believe, it can achieve"
"As a man thinketh so is he"
"Men acquire a particular quality by constantly acting a certain way."
The Balance: When the balloon one blows up is burst, will we find air or solid gold shaped in the form of the balloon? What will this depend on?
The Answer: How your 'Free' but extremely expensive time is *invested*
There is years of content here on @The Futur in many realms to concretely fill in any blanks anyone may genuinely have in any areas, but are you willing to carefully invest the time to study it. This channel is in no way, shape or form a 'chewing gum and celotape fix it' channel unless you are a video skipper. Shout out to those here since 'the Skool'
1:29:03 common sense is a myth. I like both Chris's and Butch's stories. People can have different views on situations.
Great session!
10 minutes in and Bob drops 💣💣💣💣. Thank you brother! Needed to hear what you said in the 10 min mark
yesss that part was everything. like We are so unique and that uniqueness is our main asset in everything that we do. no one can replicate it
Wow! Amazing talk!
⚠ 38:30 time description is wrong, the correct subject timing is actually 28:30*
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Please correct it in the video description.
Will do. Thanks.
This is so valuable. Thank you, guys
I have recently completed course from calarts and yes it is free.
"Knowing when to ask for help is a sign of intelligence"
There is a reason business have more than 1 employee.
Get over wanting to be a one man band and focus on what it will take to meet your client's needs.
please keep this up! thanks
Please keep more like these talks coming.
Getting a mentor is not easy. How did Melinda get Chris as a mentor? Free? That's great. What did Melinda do to stand out? What is the community? Is it the Pro Group? I plan to join at some point. I love all the info and knowledge. You guys rock!
She posted some work to a design challenge that I posted.
Good talk. Thanks
This was a lovely session! But I think the timestamps are slightly off, I tried clicking on them and somehow I reached to really weird timestamps
Sorry
Great conversation here. Thank you!
I had no idea about choosingbeggars, but I'm glad I found this video 34:38
I know of someone who paid $24,000 for a 40min sit down talk , that talk made him over $100,000,000.. the person who was paid $24,000 was Michael Jackson”s old business lawyer, The person who made over $100,000,000 from that talk was CEO Master P
There you go.
I really love this kind of content. I'd watch it if it'd be even three hours longer! :)
And this episode is amazing!
What a pity they can't pay you properly. I would love to see you in Germany !
Great conversation 💯
1:56:14
Damn, these are more like therapy sessions. Wholesome af
This is a great video as always ,Some really great gems in here. Also love what the guys said about being fired. I got fired from my job 10 months ago, started my solo business , landed a few decent clients , but the last one fired me and that totally crushed me. So watching this video and learning that business is full of ups and downs is really eye opening and it Inspires me to keep pushing on. Anyway great video guys.
This is really cool content. Thank you
Great episode, loved that firemen metaphor 31:11
Great! Great!
Yo! Love this episode! Good stuff
Glad to hear
You and I share that Chris I almost literally dropped out from college on my last semester now hahaha
Melinda’s a beaut
I didn't have the resources and accessibility to this info when I was in college either, back in 90(cough,cough). But thinking about whether it was the best way to learn, going to college, I think for me it was. At that age of 18, I needed that structure to get me through the course of learning. I wouldn't have had the discipline to learn it whether I was passionate about it or not. I wouldn't have had the knowledge to learn things sequentially within the program and I think that would be helpful to the understanding and progression of learning about something. I think the structure and the theory was valuable but as far as learning what I do now, I probably learned more in the first 6 months of my first job than I did in my college career. However, the basis of design theory, history, and the structure of the courses was valuable. I draw from that knowledge daily in my work now and that gives me a deeper understanding of things and I can apply it conceptually or within a method compared to those that might just learn the process. I probably could've learned it on my own but the opportunity to learn amongst my peers was also helpful. Could I have done it at that age, probably not. Too many distractions and not enough discipline or maturity. The school setting and structure helped lay it out for me. If I were in my late 20s then perhaps that's another question, but maybe we're not paying just for the knowledge but also the program laid out for us, which helps us navigate the learning process. For some people there is something to be said about being put in the thick of it, working your way through things, with others, competing, learning, sharing ideas, interacting, etc. That's what I needed at that time in my life. Was it worth 20-some grand, maybe not but I don't think I could've learned it on my own. I think what college did provide me was not only the learning structure but the foundation for design and the ability to apply it. Learning it on my own I think I would have the knowledge but not the experience of doing and that's the difference for me. I always thought it was a waste of time but it built the fundamentals to be able to create with a deeper meaning conceptually than some who may have been self-taught. I think you can learn to design stuff without college but you can't apply the experiences and knowledge into your design if you don't have them. Sometimes it shows. So, as far as learning how to work with applications and applying it, I probably learned more online and in the workplace. But as far as being able to design, I pull from all my experiences and knowledge I gained by going to college. So, it helped with the intellectual part of it. I still think it matters in the workforce though. Blind might be an exception as to not really caring about a degree and it being just about the work, but there are still a lot of companies out there who see a degree as a performance marker; that you were able to work through it and have the discipline, as well as having good work in your portfolio. Like you've been battle-tested prior to entering the workforce. That may change in years to come but I think college still has it's merits as of now. Chris talks about learning it on your own, if you're passionate about it you'll have the drive to do it. Some people may have that ability and he's probably one of those people, but I don't know a lot of 18 year olds who have that drive and discipline, me included. That's rare and that's an exceptional person. Some of us are average and have to work up to that with maturity and I think sometimes he has expectations that we should just be driven like him. It's not so black and white, we're all different, and don't all learn the same way. There are some who learn about places by reading about them in books and there are some who travel to those places. College was my journey. Trust me, I would've probably picked a different, faster, less expensive route, but that wasn't an option for me at the time.
I agree with you completely. I think I needed the system to push me. But I think Chris was trying to say that if we are willing to pay so much money for college, yet refuse to pay any amount for the same level (if not higher quality) of knowledge we can obtain from events and such, then it's hypocrisy. I think I agree with Chris here (which is why I sit through to watch ads on his videos and bought some of his products/services to pay back)
Really Nice
I feel like ive never seen Chris without a hat
Part of my on air uniform.
When you were talking about jumping the Gap, I was thinking of the Matrix where Neil has to jump from one building to the other building and when he falls, the crew said "no one makes it on the first try" I wonder if the Matrix influenced your thought process.
It might have. But I was thinking about that.
Now it got me an idea, why don't Futur build a new Conference Design Feria o sth like Comic Con? Inviting all those amazing artists, designers, different philosophers abt design, masters... In one place! Futur is the future!
Hey Chris, Chúc mừng năm mới (aka. Happy Lunar New year) from Vietnam :)
Happy new year!
I love the part about how much is it worth to you to save 5 years of struggle and trying to figure it out. That's exactly what I need my clients to think about. Because the shelf life of a professional model isn't very long and they don't have 5 years to figure out how to play this game and trust and believe it is a game, that involves managers, agents, the models and the clients that hire them. Me:: Oh, you want to hire your own photographer? Then go ask that photographer for some work too because you've invested in them now and not me.
Lol @ 1:16:54 the island of common sense.
The people who doesn't want to pay probably doesn't live from design, time is money guys! Get used to pay for knowledge.
W O W IT'S A MOVIE
26:33 I really like how you added some lighting tubes in the background to improve the detail of the blacks.
After reading more into it, you may now start considering increasing your aperture number during shots, this shrinks the lens opening. Shrink the lens opening? Isn't that bad? Well people with glasses squint their eyes to make things sharper and in focus. Think George Costanza from Seinfeld. Of the two guys, one is out-of-focus in Super Mario bokeh Land 2: The lost levels. Consider bringing the camera in closer to the people to allow for a smaller aperture opening (larger F number) in low light.
When choosing a focus point, your camera will pick up 33% in front of that point and 66% behind that point. So when focusing on those two guys, don't focus on the couch cushions that is 50% / 50% between them. Pick a focus point on the couch between them that is slightly closer to the guy near the camera. That way 33% of foreground depth will have some focus (Bob) while 66% of the background depth will be in focus (the couch and Butch).
If you are shooting at 30 or 60 fps, you could crank it down to 24 to let in more light per frame since dividing light by 60 or 30 is a lot darker than dividing light by 24 times per second.
Keep up the good content. As for the camera guy, never stop improving!
i actually learned a lot from this comment, thank you for sharing.
Chris Do, where can we look up your speaking fees?
thefutur.com/speaking-engagements
facebook.com/notes/chris-do-business-designer/chris-do-speaker-booking-guideline/1835316316579987/
The Netherlands recently offered a little incentive for any freelancers making less than a certain amount of income. These people wouldn't need to charge VAT on their work which saves them (and the state) administrative work. However, as a freelance designer, not charging VAT to professional clients is immediately suspicious and you would have to explain to them that you're basically making a low income which undermines your leverage. So I much rather charge VAT and do my own accounting than admit that I may not be a very profitable designer to my client.
Shout out to funnymike for the saying💯💯
Create another youtube channel called thefutur clips and upload shorter clips of after hours session.
Great Idea Umar
People are walking mirrors. Your internal state expresses itself outwards. Somebody hating on you, in reality, is hating on themselves.
Btw money isn't everything guys, only about 90% :)
#inspiringContent#CreativesTalkTheWalk#runningOutOfHashtags
the chill boys were more interesting 😅