Medieval Combat Tournaments are TERRIFYING
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- Опубликовано: 23 фев 2024
- I went to the biggest Buhurt tournament in North America, Carolina Carnage.
Big thanks to the Palmetto Knights for inviting me out!!
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Looking at armored combat...Judo makes a lot more sense now.
im sure its way easier to do judo and unbalance people!
yep, kicks and punches are not effective against armor...,that's how japanese ju-jutsu was developed and then Kano took that and created judo (he did some modifications, removed moves that only relied on power etc.), you probably heard somebody saying sth along the lines "don't hit them with the fists hit them with entire planet"
judo is one of the most effective ways to train for buhurt.
Aikido ?
Not going to lie, even in modern combat, with just a vest, a helmet, and your gear (water, ammo, etc.), Judo makes a lot of sense. I say this as a soldier who has done Judo, Folkstyle/Catch Wrestling and BJJ. If I were to create a martial art system for soldiers who wear gear, it would be Judo and Boxing, plus weapons retention.
Wearing gear and utility uniforms (boots, load bearing equipment, etc.) forces you to be upright and absolutely kills your mobility. Most of the rides and fancy guard work I learned in wrestling and BJJ are so much harder in gear. Furthermore, some of the wrestling takedowns I favored (swing single, fireman's carry, ankle pick) are so much harder when you have something that affects your thoracic mobility (chest rig). I'd never attempt a low single on someone who has a weapon. That leaves a risky high-C and blast double - which if you fail... might have cost you your life.
Instead, I think I could get most of the Judo I like to work (Ashi Waza (sweeps, trips, reaps), Harai Goshi, O Soto Gari, and Uchi Mata). I can do them all upright, while deploying most of my other offensive tools and the risk of failure isn't nearly as great.
Seth! Thanks for coming out man! It was a pleasure to meet you and get kicked in the head by you.
GG you mad lad!
21:56
Is there a combined team weight limit?
Nope no limits
Awesome sport
I love this crazy medieval stuff. It's like a realization of every kids' childhood dream of bloody chivalrous violence.
criminally underrated comment.
Thanks for coming dude! As a longtime fan of yours, I was profoundly disappointed in your first experience with Buhurt, and was absolutely delighted to shake your hand and have the chance to be a part of a more positive experience with the sport we love so much. Buhurt is Love 💙
I know it doesn't, but I can't help adding two "t's" in the middle of the word, Buhurt.
Sensei Seth is like MCU iron man of martial arts he’s just everywhere 😭
We shot him a message about this with just a couple days warning, and there he was.
@@BryceNewtsonyou said his name three times in front of a striking dummy?
Actually I was saying Icy Mike, but beggars can't be choosers.
CIVIL WARS !!!With Icy Mik!
More like stan lee
I was there! I was a fighter for Tidewater Dogs of War.
Thanks for the coverage, the sport should be a whole lot more popular than it is.
I'm the bald dude in the background around 2:20 lol
how expensive is the equipment?
it is on the rise.
there is no bald guy@@MrSquigglies
@@Ihatecats334 there are 2
Thank you for coming to the tournament, glad you enjoyed wearing my armour and having a small knock around with kruig.
If i had known i would be on video so mich id have my make up on 😂
Haha you looked stunning regardless 😂😂 thanks for all the info!!
Hey man, what you are doing is really cool. If I were in a different place in my life, I may have a set of armor and run around as the little gnat bugging people. I am now looking for events near me just to spectate. I think my daughter would find it fun, too. Stay safe!
@@SenseiSeth, this could properly be considered a sequel to the Vice Magazine piece about Takanakuy (Christmas morning fist fight parties up in the mountains of South America. Great video.)
why is this actually way cooler than i thought?
Would you like to know more?
Because it it’s my friend
@@PalmettoKnightsUSAI definitely would
Because it is! You gotta try it out, best adrenaline rush I've ever experienced
Seth, i just did my first muay thai class last night because of your time covering it. You really have influenced so many of us to do great things for our health, safety, and lifestyles. I also snaoped one of my kicks and got beat up😂
Welcome to the martial arts/combat sports community! I've been training Muay Thai for a decade and BJJ for 4 years, and to be completely honest, I am a much healthier, happier, and more confident man as a result. Keep at it and you won't regret the results! And I think it's awesome that your inspiration came from this channel. Very cool!
@@TheElbowMerchantis Muay Thai classes around the same price as bjj classes
@@jessehardin8500 Depends on who's running the gym and how much competition is in the local area. I'm at an MMA gym now, so I get training and sparring for both in one location for a monthly fee. But back when I first started, BJJ was almost double the price of Muay Thai classes (probably in part because the UFC popularized both sports, but the Gracie family had famous gyms in the US way before Muay Thai gained the reputation it has now). Long story short, a gym being run by a well-known practitioner of the art will probably be able to charge substantially more than a gym owned by someone who hasn't made a name for themselves in combat sports.
@@TheElbowMerchant thanks I've been wanting to get back into training but the mma gym I was going to was 150 a month and a 45 min drive. Then covid happened so I dropped my membership. I was just curious if it'd be cheaper to train muay Thai but I'll just make some calls
Thank you so much for coming and seeing what our sport and martial art is all about. It was great to meet and talk with you. If you or anyone have any other questions about buhurt please reach out to me. Thanks again!
To be fair the weight of the armor doesn't really bother you that much. It's the heat that gets generated and trapped in your cuirass and helmet. It really cooks you like a Christmas goose. Especially if you try to fight out in the summer sun. I forgot my friend's name once. Brains were scrambled.
Oh yeah. Summer fights are rough. Nothing like an August day in armor out in the sun@@The_Gallowglass
@@woodchuckknight7820 Pennsic poke and puke :D
What’s the average cost to get started?
@@ChurchWorshipandvideo Realistically, about $2500-3000 for a full kit of armor. Most people start training with a local team and slowly acquire or get used stuff first. The nice thing about this hobby is once you have it that's all you need. Most events are free or very low cost to participate in. Some fights even pay small amounts to fighters. Always happy to answer any other questions or help you find someone local as well
But that's the beauty about competition, isn't it? As long as there's a winner and a loser, people will train, they will develop strategies. So whenever you watch a sport at a high level, even if it looks chaotic, that just means that you don't yet get it.
This isn't necessarily high level. Buhurt, that I understand, isn't in a place where people can compete professionally as their career. By that I mean anywhere in the world, it's definitely not a professional sport in the west.
They did have 'M1 medieval knight fights' and armoured 'pro fights, I dunno if they're still around. 1v1, full contact matches with a similar format to kickboxing. I don't think anyone was getting paid enough in that to do it full time either though.
5:43 A local townsperson breaks down the weapon metagame
That's Johnny Porter. Solid dude.
My friend Charles was here competing!! He told me he ran in to you and I was so excited for him! He fought with the San Jacinto Knights :) Glad you covered buhurt!!!
your friend hits very hard lol
Thank you for making such a great video about our event and the sport.
Thanks so much for coming and especially for showcasing our womens and femme fighters (that’s me throwing the deuce at 22:24 ✌️). We’re so glad the sport is growing and can’t wait for folks to check us out and join in. Buhurt is love, baby! 💕⚔️
Edit: if you come to any other buhurt events, reach out: your first funny medieval hat is on me ✨
Most people reacting to this sport seem to be disappointed that the swords aren't doing much, and then they basically dismiss it as a sport beyond just punching each other. Glad to see a better take
Almost like swords aren't for fighting armor, and we have entire encyclopedias of just different types of melee weapons, that all have a purpose, time and place.
@@Propulus I agree! The events where they only have knights with swords should re-evaluate lol
I'm mostly dismissing it because most of them seem to have absolutely no clue what they are doing, and mostly just mill around. It looks like a middle school soccer match for the mentally disabled for all the skill being shown. And the one team that does, plays it like a rugby match, not a fight... because the rules are a joke.
@@Benw8888 well real anti armor weapons were not used in tournaments back in the day also, the nobility was not trying to end each other, even on a real battle field they would try to capture each other for ransom. Mowing down poorly armored common folks was what knights were really about most of history. One of the most amusing tidbits, European nobility really got mad at the Swiss because they did not try to capture knights in war they flat out ended them, the cowardly nobility (aka Knights) just stopped messing with the Swiss and went back to fighting other nations that played by the 'rules' of mowing down poorly armored commoners only. They even made laws to make weapons very good vs armor illegal in warfare example was crossbows were not to be used vs other Christians for centuries. They were used however vs muslims etc.
@@xomox5316Do you realize that this kind of plate armor did not exist for most of medieval period? Also no one really respected all those ridiculous Pope's decrees, because you know jousts and tournaments were banned as well, lol.
You know its going to be fun when the event has "WARNING: Broken weapons may fly at the audience".
That ending got me
THIS is what it looks like to play seriously: mutual love, respect, competition; REAL danger, but it is those stakes that allows everyone to lay down their egos and form bonds. Love is NOT safe; it is the result of confronting danger with openness and trust. Kudos @SenseiSeth!
Happy to see you had a fun and most importantly safe experience! 🙂
I love watching our sport grow! As a martial artist myself... I thought it would be easy too... I was wrong. I have more injuries from the first year in this sport than my entire martial arts career lol
Well done video!
If you wan't an even bigger battle Pennsic War in Butler County, Pennsylvania. It is a medieval reenactment event where over 10 thousand people attend regularly. Each event has a big field battle where every fighter goes onto a field and fights in a giant team vs team battle. The record for people on the field at one time was three thousand in one big battle.
Holy shit
that's a lotta armour
I dont understand why Sensei Seth only has 370k Subs. This is the best martial arts channel on youtube.
Thank you for taking the time to shine a positive light on what we do. Dominus was happy to trade a couple of whacks. You're welcome anytime. Maybe join us in Germany this fall. 😊
i love seeing people in 300 pounds of metal casing beat each other
Only about 70-100lbs depending on your kit
@@zoltanleafy8746 In the video they were saying it was closer to 65
@@holyknightthatpwns
some guy said 50 pounds.
@zoltanleafy8746 not even close to that.
@holyknightthatpwns it's only that heavy because they make it extra thick for added protection, because they don't make it properly. Actual historical armor was actually light. From 30-50 pounds. They could make it that light because they knew how to shape the armor to keep it away from the body to absorb impact and deflect blows.
This armor needs to be extra thick and heavy because it doesn't do that.
This video may be hazardous to my health and my wallet. Because I have a sudden urge to buy a suit of armor and a spiked flail, then join a local tournament, where I will inevitably have my dome caved in. Don't worry, ladies and gentlemen, I'll report back to publish my findings in this comment section (assuming I survive).
Please do , clubs are always looking for new fighters
Please go to some training sessions before expending money on armor
@brunocerra1850 Oh, for sure! I'd never compete in any martial art without a decent amount of training under my belt. I have trained in MT and BJJ for years, but as far as weapons training, I have a little bit of Kali under my belt, so I'd definitely need a lot of coaching. With that said, it looks like a blast! Exhausting and terrifying, but still a lot of fun as well.
Could be wrong but I don't think blunt weapons are allowed, could do more damage
@@soldierx345 Could be. I just think flails look epic, but I could get down with whatever weapons are allowed (if I've trained with them extensively).
@@TheElbowMerchant understandable. I inquired about using a hammer of some sort once (nickname is Jammer) but that's what I was told.
Would love to see a harnischfechten episode with a more technical approach to armored combat. Matt Easton the head instructor of a Hema club in England will host a seminar called "The Armoured Fighter" the 3 to 4 of March I believe. Maybe that's an occasion?
Best. Episode. Ever (says this D&D nerd).👍
Agreed (says the armored combat nerd)
@@BryceNewtson 👍
@@BryceNewtson Agreed (Says the random nerd)
DnD nerds uniting with History nerds
@@1border2lands3 👍
Good news! it's not nearly as hard to do as it was 10 years ago when BOTN regularly was sending folks to the hospital each year. Still there's a reason I never did this and had to medically retire from SCA Armored Combat and it's not nearly this contactfull. Still 15 years of full contact waster fighting did it's toll.
Carolina Carnage was always cool to talk to.
We were always a bit dismissive about reenactors in the sport fencing world, but one of our biggest meanest Sabruers joined an English Civil War for an anniversary battle in my nearest city Worcester, and said he had never been so exhausted and terrified in his life, post-skirmish!
Interesting to see the tactical side of this sport, which I thought was just a bunch of big blokes hacking hell out of each other, and the comradeship it engenders.
This video popped up randomly, but I LOVE IT!!! This is one of the best videos on this medieval combat I've ever seen. Everything from the high-level group dynamics to the tactics, to things like discussing livelihood of merchants and laborers' work surrounding these events, to the dynamics of the literal "fighting for power" (aka getting hired). As someone who used to do this for *a lot of* fun, Thanks for making this! Great Job!
There's a lot of details about tournaments in actual history that are far more complicated than the folks you asked said, but I appreciate it can be hard to get stuff across when asked in a middle of an event and when you later have to edit it out to make a fun piece of content to consume.
Also the modern 'medieval combat' scene (be it IMCF,BoN or ACL etc.) is a modern combat sport that has a lot of similarities to some forms of historical tournaments, it's not a direct continuation. It's absolutely great stuff though and I'm really happy to see it featured on your channel(hope you do a similar video of a hema tournament though :D )
Their weapons and armor are also of differing levels of historical accuracy for the modern game for purposes of safety and longterm durability. However I dont doubt if you transported a knight from the 14th,15th or 16th century that they'd complain about the changes to the armor for the purposes of a tournament(and we know that even in period there were disagreements on what exact get up would be best for war and in what context etc.).
If you look up 'The Art of the Game: Hastiludes and Chivalric Competition in the Late Medieval Period' you can find a great lecture on historical tournaments done by Adam Franti(on the lansing longsword youtube channel) that goes into a fair bit of detail about these historical events.
He also lists a number of resources for further reading and research for anyone interested.
i'm calling it now. this is the transition point, where Seth slowly changes his content from martial arts stuff to headwear fashion reviews, tutorials, etc.
Ultimate Self Defense Championship: medieval edition.
Wish you could have seen Simon Rohrich there, who is the reason why all the helmets have the strap on the back of the helm to ensure they don't come off the head. He took an axe to the skull after his helm came off but was fine afterwards coming out of surgery to repair his fractured skull.
One of your coolest videos yet :D
Love the topic and the people at the event. Just so positive, open and friendly.
Seth WILL become the first man in history to run out of martial arts to try.
I feel like Buhurt is more just people that want to get a workout, fight like hell, and actually do more than just LARP (while there is some LARP still involved). Seems like a really fun sport, would love to get involved.
Your videos amaze me Seth, great job! Entertaining, informative, and truly unique!
THIS IS THE MOST METAL THING IVE SEEN IN YEARS
It's the sword + grate-like helmets that give me the heebie jeebies, I like having functioning eyeballs.
Thrusts and sharp points are forbidden. If you wanna poke someone with steel HEMA is your only viable choice.
Awesome!
Wonderful video showcasing the sport i love properly. Thanks Seth
Seth my favorite content of yours is any armored combat. Please keep showing up to events like this and just give these people some well deserved camera time. The people of the internet deserve to see the struggle they put themselves through.
Americans trying to learn european history is funny af
dang... thats alot of neckbeards
Never heard of this tournament. Crazy that it is so close to me here in Charleston. I’ll be on the lookout to head to the upstate to see this live.
Check us out we do a bunch of small events throughout the year. And this is every February
Absolutely loved that little speech the guy made right before the end,real lovely
The first video Seth did on HEMA he went to some psychos, i'm very happy he is now with proffesional PEOPLE.
This caveman brawling is far from proffesional or historically accurate.
Did you know that there is actually a world championship for this sport, called the Battle of the Nations? It’s held every year in a different country, and it features teams from all over the world competing in various categories, such as duels, group battles, and mass battles. The largest category is the 150 vs 150, where 300 fighters clash in a chaotic melee that lasts for an hour. Imagine being in the middle of that!
I think this sport is fascinating and exciting, and I admire the skill and courage of the fighters. I would love to try it someday, but I’m not sure if I could handle the pain and the bruises. Maybe I’ll just stick to watching it from a safe distance. Thanks for the awesome video!
Your description of the big guys' vs little guys' jobs on the team is remarkably like how rugby positions work. It definitely tracks.
So sad I missed you at the event! Thanks for coming!
This was so much fun to watch! Thanks for sharing Sensei!
Thanks! This was one of the most amazing things I saw in a while. Didn't know something like those tournaments even existed
Thanks for coming out and highlighting our sport! Buhurt is love!
It was really awesome having you at the event, thank you so much for spreading the gospel of "Buhurt is Love!"
Complete long shot, but Seth I would love to see you find and cover a session learning Sumayaw ang Kamatayan (Yaw Yan for short). Its a filipino striking martial art. Not the typical Eskrima stick fighting that is universally known, but much more similar to Muay Thai and Kick boxing with their own style of kicks and strikes.
Ive seen Dojos scattered across the US and would love to see it get the credit it deserves and brought to light the same way Eskrima is. Love the content Seth, hooe you read this!
Cool video! We had some Aussies make the trip out for this last year I think. Would be awesome to see you do some Harnishfechten, which is more the sort of armoured combat you'd do in a life or death situation rather than a tournament.
Awesome video! Super glad you could come out and get some whacks in.
Thanks for coming out. Got to see some of our friends in the vid.
Thank you for this! Watched Battle of the nations years ago and it was mental!! This showed some interesting tactics and history!
Loved to see you coming back to this
I'm new to the SCA which does a light(er) form of armoured combat, but also renaissance type fencing, which eventually became the regulated sport of olympic fencing. I do the fencing, not the armoured. It's such a blast, and I've love to try armoured at least once some day, but the cost of armour wouldnt be worth it for me. I'm 130 pounds so I'd definitely break something if I tried.
I was looking forward to this video after seeing you in Bachata Knight's stream! It's such a cool sport and I hope I can go to an event some day.
An old joke I heard about Chivalry. “Some say chivalry is dead. I held the door open for a woman the other day and she told me she didn’t need a man to open doors for her. She insulted my honor so I challenged her to single combat. Chivalry isn’t dead, but that lady is.
You should try rapier if you want to do hema again! There are several fantastic schools that focus on a martial and historical tale that you might find interesting
Yoo Seth sick video! This and that video you made a few years back makes me really wanna see another exploration on how martial arts could work in armor, like imagine some dude in armor getting sumo shoved or judo thrown
4:41 Thank you for the image in my head of a medieval soldier trying to get through TSA. I needed that
Dude you deserve a TV show, some of the best content on the platform
I do Renaissance Faires and there are some full armor fights that happen there.
At the one Faire there was a match where a woman was hit in the head so hard that she was knocked completely out. Her helmet was so dented by the impact that it took half an hour to hammer back into shape..... BUT SHE FELT BAD because she felt like she didn't give the guy a good enough fight.
When I was at the huge Renaissance Festival in Michigan, my friend and I got talking to one of the fighters and one question we asked him was if actual nobility ever participated. He told us that the Prince of Morocco participated and that he had his own retinue and that they are terrifying to fight.
I wonder if that prince ever visits any of the European reenactment festivals or if they just do actual medieval inspired combat sports tournaments with titles and prize awards.🤔
I'malso very confident that there are plenty of lesser European nobility that is enjoying themselves with these sports and/or reenactment.
Great, GREAT, piece. And possibly your best closer ever.
Glad you tried this out! Its a TON of fun. You should try a boffer larp like belegarth next. =D
The sounds of armor clashing against armor are EPIC and pull at those strings in your heart for glory. Sounds that provide a glimpse back to medieval times. Awesome sauce all around!
"Tell me how the grass tastes little man"
Love to see you in this sport.
Cool to see you there
You've probably gotten a pretty good insight on why your average's knight's training was maybe 20% weapon training/riding and 80% PT and endurance training. "Ah, the weather's nice today. Time to do a 10k in full armor before breakfast."
14:47 I love how much this entire section just sounds like two aluminum cans being bashed together repeatedly.
It's crazy to see how they fight as a team, knowing that that is exactly how things would've gone down in the midst of combat.. absolutely mental to consider the carnage one was submitted to each time they had to raise a weapon
So Amazing !!! Thanks, I've enjoyed it a lot.
Try Belegarth next, granted they are foam fighters, but as someone that has done both armored combat and HEMA fencing. I was surprised by how much of a martial art it's developed into and there are a lot of misconceptions about it.
Well i think this is pretty far from medieval combat. I see nobody daggering each other in the face.
This is just some MMA in Armour but has not much to do with medieval combat imo. For example you see often how these competitors leg kick each other in a martial arts way. Makes no sense also.
Now this is some content, good stuff!
A really enjoyable detail is how the dominus guy is punching seth hard enough to get that reaction at 14:00 ...dude is punching armor barefist :D
Great video! Would love to see you dive more into HEMA, which is a bit more martial and full of really cool historical techniques, with many different weapons and systems to explore
awesome to see you cover our sport more!
Dude, the amount of cardio and endurance you need to fight with an armor has to be crazy. These guys are amazing athletes.
This was as fun as any you have done !!!
This was awesome! Would love to see a group of modern day Spartan’s fighting as a phalanx. “This is Sparta!!!”
That last shot on the baby made me subscribe. Absolutely amazing content.
those two dudes just throwing down at the end was badass
In comes icy Mike, "side kicks don't work"😂. Awesome vid Seth
Dude! Totally awesome! I think ICY MIKE Would be vicious in this! LOL
Excellent video, Seth.
This is way cooler than I thought it would ever be.
I think you missed one at 22:00...
Amazing video! The sound in there must be pretty intimidating. I've been weeks and weeks gathering information about Bohurt. I might try it!
5 v 5 matches are the most exciting to watch. With such a small team, both teamwork and individual skill are equally important in that type of match.
Thanks for the video
To see something like this enter the Olympic games would be awsome
buhurt is so cool!
One of the best feelings is just sitting in armor and relaxing in between fights. You'll never feel a more relaxing sit just chilling out and vibing in a warm suit of armor, preferably outside in the sun.