How to Identify Trichocereus San Pedro “PC” l Mallacht’s Plants
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
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00:00 Introduction
3:13 How to identify a T. pachanoi PC
5:50 Why would I not want to own a T. pachanoi PC?
6:32 Comparing T. pachanoi PC to other cacti
10:52 Conclusion
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Thank you Tyler. I personally have asked you this question at least 3 times. Great to have it recorded
Any time man! I try to cover all of the basic topics that come up repeatedly in groups, etc. Glad you enjoyed :) Hope you and the fam are well
My reason for watching this video is the reason you don't wanna talk about, thank you it was very informative.
Me too!
Thank you for the quick response! Totally appreciated. This is what I have seen or heard, is that the "reclassification caused some naming clashes". I am reading that "prior to the merge Echinopsis bridgesii and Trichocereus bridgesii were both classified as distinct species. So when Trichocereus bridgesii had to be reclassified it had to take on an entirely new name, which is why it is now called Echinopsis lageniformis".
"Scientifically speaking, the correct name for the genus is Echinopsis. Or more specifically, the current consensus amongst influential botanists is that the correct genus is Echinopsis but this may very well change in the coming years. Some die-hard cactus lovers are quite passionate about the topic and will insist on one usage, other people don’t mind. You can generally use either and convey that you are speaking about the same plant species, except for in the case of Bridgesii as previously mentioned.
So, I guess both are correct. Thanks a ton!
Trichocereus is still the most commonly used, also by experts in the field such as Keeper Trout, Schultes, etc
There’s hardly any PC in my area, only saw it once. We only have grandiflora.
a wealth of information, i just hope my tea is enjoyable 💚 thanks
Glad you liked the content, thanks for watching
Thanks my brother for the awesome videos I just went and bought some cuttings and seeds from your site, I hope to one day have some mature plants to play with cross hybridization!
Nice! They grow faster than you think. Thanks :)
Thanks Tyler!! I happen to like columnar cactus a lot in general...
Saw on one of my emails from succulents and sunshine there was a columnar cactus that was blue!!
Any ideas what kind this might be??
Anyways thank you Sir...I like your voice and just your overall explaining style... it's relaxing!
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Pilosocereus Azureus
thanks foe the content! :)
Your voice kind of sounds like Howard Hamlin from Better Call Saul lol
Thanks! I just got finished watching his episode of "Hot Ones" - big fan!
Oh wait I'm thinking of Bob Odenkirk, you said the guy that plays Hamlin. Well, still a compliment... I think. lol
Now i get it san pedro is like the maple in the bonsai hobby
I guess, kind of… There are thousands of different cultivars and locales of San Pedro though, so I would say that perhaps some of them are
thank you
You’re very welcome Jeff
Where do you get the metal label tags I C in your pictures? (Probably too expensive for my taste/needs, as I have a decent sized seed grown collection) Plastics don't hold up to the Florida sun, not even plastic knives.
I don’t remember where we bought them but I know Cactus Affinity has them for sale here and there. I usually just google “metal plant tags” or “aluminum plant tags” Also, I feel you about the plastic tags not holding up to the elements. Here in SoCal it is relatively dry, and the tags either end up cracking to pieces in the sun, or long before that the sharpie goes faded and becomes unreadable. With the metal tags, the pen actually ends up engraving them a bit, so it’s always there.
@Mallacht's Plants
Exactly. Plastics seem to be a set up for disappoint.
I'm not sure what I was expecting, but, it definitely wasn't for the metal to actually be "plant tags"
~THANKS Mallacht's Plants
That shirt is an absolute banger
Thanks man! All of our merch is available on the website, here is a link: www.mallachtsplants.com/collections/all-merch
Wow, those are beautiful! Do you get rid of cuts? If so how do I get into contact with you?
Yep, all available plants are listed on our website: www.mallachtsplants.com
Great video! What would be a good true/non-PC for someone starting out growing Pacanoi? Thanks!
In the video I mention Landfill. As far as other pachanoi, there are hundreds. Here are some examples, copied from a section of my own inventory list. This is in fact the majority of the Trichocereus pachanoi that we grow here at Mallacht’s Plants. :)
-T. pachanoi “Ayacucho”
-T. pachanoi “Ayacucho (Star)”
-T. pachanoi “Bob” (NZ)
-T. pachanoi “Donk”
-T. pachanoi “Landfill”
-T. pachanoi “Legendary Matucana Pachanoi”
-T. pachanoi “Maipu”
-T. pachanoi “LER”
-T. pachanoi "Ogun”
-T. pachanoi “RM95b”
-T. pachanoi “Lancas Mountains”
-T. pachanoi “Lancas Mountains 2”
-T. pachanoi “MT01”
-T. pachanoi “MT02”
-T. pachanoi “Flowers Market Pachanoi”
-T. pachanoi “The Extraordinaire Cut”
-T. pachanoi [Altman’s Monstrose]
-T. pachanoi “TPQC”
-T. pachanoi “JS444” - aka “Brian’s Blue
Skies”
-T. pachanoi “Juul’s Giant”
-T. pachanoi “Kimnach”
-T. pachanoi “Torres and Torres”
-T. pachanoi “AJNA”
-T. pachanoi “Huancabamba”
-T. pachanoi “Huancabamba (Star)”
-T. pachanoi “Hutchison 1597”
-T. pachanoi “Monica” [Crest revert]
-T. pachanoi variegata “Yellow Submarine”
-T. pachanoi variegata “Saquerema”
-T. pachanoi “Huarazino”
-T. pachanoi “KK2150”
-T. pachanoi “KK339”
-T. pachanoi “Soozie”
-T. pachanoi “Zeus”
@@mallachtsplants Amazing list!! Thanks for sharing. I'll send another message on FB!
@@mallachtsplants can I send you some pictures of wha i have and can you confirm if it is true
@@shawndachabot3896 As I explained through FB Messenger Shawnda, there is only one "PC" - it is a cultivar and just like any cultivar it is propagated by clone. Since clones are all identical, there is only one PC. So if you have a pachanoi (San Pedro) that isn't PC, then it is automatically a "true" PC.
@@mallachtsplants yes thank you so much!
I have a few cuttings that iv propogated quite a bit from. They were gifted to me by some hippy friends who got it from their hippy chemist buddy. I dont think its "pc" but im not sure how to go about identifying what it actually is
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I get The other Reason for P.C Thanks !!!
where would someone find out about those things you didn't want to talk about in the video? for science
Tons of resources out there brother, google is your friend :)
@@mallachtsplants yea, google is also a pain sometimes too, trying to sift through contradicting information.
@@sdogg73 Check out our “Trusted Vendors” video, tons of great sources of information in that video. There is also a link page on our website under “Friends of Mallacht’s Plants”
Thank you for the vedio, what is the benefits of this plant ?
Beauty
How do I identify Echinopsis pachanoi?
Echinopsis pachanoi is synonymous with Trichocereus pachanoi. They are both San Pedro. They thought about reclassifying it into Echinopsis a while back but it didn’t stick, the correct genus is now Trichocereus. In the video I talk about Landfill, which is a cultivar of San Pedro. Other than that I would say to look up botanical descriptions, and read books like “Trouts Notes on Trichocereus and Related Species” :)
this video reminds me of when i got my first san pedro (a variegated mystery genetics plant) and i spent hours looking around untill i realized you cant get a variegated pup/clone from a (by nature non variegated)PC & that even if it has PC genetics it was my first cactus so i should just chill & enjoy it. almost an " of growth in a month of planting and its seems too be widening out again.
There is a variegated PC out there, so a variegated plant can still be PC. Any genetics can technically turn variegated, and is still technically the same genes as the original.
@@mallachtsplants Interesting so its just like a unexpressed growth form thats just hiding? Does it just trigger randomly like some monstrose/crestata growth forms do; like from knicks, breaking, new pups?
@@SushikiIIer Unexpressed isn’t the right word. The idea is that 3 cuts can all be genetically identical, the same exact cultivar, propagated by clone and one of them can express variegation and the others may never. There are many theories as to what triggers this, including pathogens, insect damage, nutrients given, etc.
@@SushikiIIer Or just completely randomly. I have a CSD that went variegated recently, just out of no where. Just one individual pup on a graft that has multiple pups, only one is variegated.
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Do they produce fruit?
Yep they sure do. This is where the seeds come from in breeding crosses.
I wanna see some ss01 and ss02 available.
Well I don't even have SS01 so that's out of the question. SS02 I recently posted over 10 ft of. You just gotta check the website often, we sell out very quickly
@@mallachtsplants awesome thanks!!!
Are 'PC' all vegetative clones of one original plant? Could there be or are there multiple genetically different but maybe morphologically similar plants being traded or sold as 'PC'?
PC is a cultivar, so yes it is indeed a clone. There is only one PC. It merely stands for “Predominant Cultivar” so it is the one that has been propagated and spread around the most. By far the most common Trichocereus clone, and typically the only one found at big box stores like Depot, Lowe’s, Walmart, et.
@mallachtsplants Thanks for the answer! There's this concept of a cultivar-group in which members of a group are united by a distinct common trait. I wonder if that could be why people might call Landfill glorified PC. In recognition of similar morphological traits. Total speculation on my part. Just imagine selectively breeding PC seedlings that look like PC for multiple generations and referring to them all as belonging to a PC cultivar-group. More of a umbrella classification rather than a specific clone cultivar designation.
@@nico.salcedo Just to clarify once more, there is no “PC cultivar group” only “PC” the (overly) cloned cultivar. The whole Landfill thing started as a joke tbh, and a ton of noobs took it seriously. As far as I know, no one is breeding PC looking plants, there really isn’t that much control in Trichocereus breeding. Oftentimes 2 short spined T pachanoi are bred, and the offspring all have long spines. It’s not quite like breeding cannabis, or other flowering plants where the traits are more straight forward.
@@mallachtsplants That makes sense. Thanks for clarifying!
What city do you live at? You must not have snowy winters!:)
I’m in Southern California, so no it definitely doesn’t snow here. Not even close, the coldest it gets is 45 or so typically, rarely below that
So I guess the "bad" stigma of a cactus being a PC Pachanoi, would be because it is a cheap & common species compared to the others? Is it still considered a San Pedro type of 🌵?
Well that much is up for debate I suppose. There are famous experts out there such as Keeper Trout that believe it is actually a form of T riomizquensis. It has a stigma because for some reason the noobs in this hobby think that if they were sold a PC that they were automatically duped or something. The thing is that some vendors will sell PC as simply "Trichocereus pachanoi" and so I suppose it is understandable that they feel duped. However, most reputable vendors (including us) always sell it as "T pachanoi "PC""
The PC contains the same amount of the alkaloids as the other, and it is about half as potent as the Peruvian. Not sure why so much hate on it just because it got cloned more.
@@jeremygrahamellis iv allways heard it had way less alkaloids
@@drakeweddner It has less than some types, but it still has it. There is a great variation in potency, but not just between PC and others. There are, for instance, peruvians that have higher or lower content as well. It's like cannabis. You can have stronger or weaker phenos. There is a lot of ignorance and opinion surrounding the PC. It is most likely Bolivian and possibly a hybrid. Nobody knows. But it is definitely a sacred cactus, and it has potency. PC is so prolific because it is highly drought resistant (as bolivian species tend to be) and easy to cultivate. You stick it in the ground and it grows. But for someone to say that it is being used by lanscapers BECAUSE it has lower potency, I do not at all think this is true.
@@jeremygrahamellis thank you for your reply I definitely don't think it was made lower potency on purpose I've just always heard it was a lower potency but I guess it makes sense all of the specialist cultivators would say PC low potency because otherwise there's no reason to buy one of their expensive cultivars , I have a 3 slightly different cultivars of what i think is pc , i spent like 15$ per and they have grown like weeds and been cloned many times
Who is ritter? Id like to read about him
Read about him and you find out
A very famous botanist, a google search for "Friedrich Ritter" will give you all the info you need. :)
Also, here is a great link I found on Keeper Trout's website where he mentions a lot of the known Trichocereus that Ritter field-collected.
sacredcacti.com/blog/ritter/
In my experience, PC is not as consistent in it's beauty as say Trichocereus bridgesii is. It is very common though.
RIGHT!!! Lol
I found a trichocereus at the 99cent store! 😆🤣👍🏼
Nice!
@@mallachtsplants is trichocereus psychoactive
@@rgscuniverse6129 Yes
@Kristian Markovic I don't know about PC, sorry!
@@kristianmarkovic1823 i believe it basically isn't but technically is like 5% the strength of the south American non PC version.
I got my san pedros from german and dutch growers so dont think i have any pc among my collection.
Nice! The more genetic diversity the better 🙌
Banned now in Louisiana. How the hell can I get a cutting?
Hi. I don’t think this is correct. Not only do I know plenty of growers in Louisiana that grow these plants, but San Pedro and related species (Trichocereus bridgesii and T peruvianus) are perfectly legal in all 50 states. There is no reason for them to be illegal as they are a relatively common landscaping plant. Home Depot, Lowes, and even Wal-Mart carry the very common “PC” variety that is talked about in this video.
Drive to Arizona😊
If you ever come down to Austin let me know!
What part of Louisiana? I'm coming down in a week and lumber yards are selling small ones here in missouri
What are the other reason why you don’t want it
You'll just have to ask around on this one buddy, I suggest reddit
I'm gonna guess because they aren't quite as consistently beautiful as say Trichocereus bridgesii.
Someone is tired of the people on Reddit asking non-stop. Is this pc?
lol! Just wanted to create some clarity as there are a ton of oddly held beliefs about PC. People ask me all the time “Is this peruvianus PC?” Or “Is this bridgesii PC” - People seem to think that any cultivar can be PC, which obviously doesn’t make sense because PC is itself a cultivar. So, it’s only the one clone, the same identical, overly distributed plant.
@mallachtsplants OH no I get it trust me, only people worse are the ones with a stolen cerus peruvianas asking, "is this the Droid I'm looking for."
@mallachtsplants I still don't have a cut of yours. Where can I support the cause?
I call it eyebrows
Nice analogy!
Yo quiero una camiseta igual esta hermosa amo los cactusss
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