Russell Kane on Freedom of Speech, Woke Comedy and Cancel Culture
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- Is comedy under threat from woke culture? Join Rob as he talks to comedian and writer Russell Kane about cancel culture, comedy and business. They also delve deep into the difficulties of masculinity in the modern world and the role of social media in comedy and mental health.
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Kane is one of the wokest comedians out there
This whole discussion is why he'll never be funny. He'll always say without irony that men can have periods, and never know how unironically funny he is being.
@@WokeBegonefound the transphobe
That's why he's not funny
He's out of touch. I'm working class and I can guarantee that freedom of speech for me doesn't mean a desire to use derogatory racial epithets or misogynistic terms. It does mean expressing a opinion without having groups attempting to cancel you or making an accusations of hate. He is not a working class spokesman. I still find him funny though, I just don't agree with everything he says....
Absolutely. I can guarantee that his younger self would have wanted nothing to do with the kind of behaviour incentivized in audiences now - crudely suspicious, jumping to conclusions for the glory of the 'gotcha', stereotyping (but it's only white guys (for now), so that's ok), recording, reporting, vilifying and ostracizing, even punishing those who simply remain civil towards a figure of hate (the so - called secondary sanction).
It's so nakedly about being able to personally wield a ridiculous amount of power, unchecked (in the current stage of social media, anyway), rather than the social justice it's cloaked in. Again, comedians should be recoiling from *anyone* on a power trip, instinctively. When the Direct Messages emerge, their true colours are *really* shown. Appalling people.
It does mean that to some people.
The brilliant Mr Kane, speaking the truth, erasing the smoke screen with his beautiful smart head, we’re all being fed,. Need more Russell Kanes on TV replacing the blanded out untalented crap they’re trying to feed us!
Remember him pushing all sorts of lockdown then, give me a break
I’m totally 💯 on board with the comments about the crap we’ve all been brought up on, we need more Russell Kane and to completely throw all the crap tv and advertising in the Bin TIME FOR CHANGE.
Lost me the moment he said "what they really mean is...."
No, Russell, they don't.
His examples of people saying whatever they want are those who already have a huge fanbase and can't be 'cancelled'. They all receive massive backlash and calls for them to be fired, have their shows taken down etc. but they are too powerful. If an up and coming comedian made a joke that the twitter mob took offence to that same backlash would be enough to derail their career.
But the point he makes is it’s not about being cancelled because people are too woke. It’s about being cancelled because you’re telling an immoral joke
@@ofmiceandben it's only because these people are 'woke' that they find jokes immoral. Jokes can come from dark places and gallows humour/shock humour is not for everyone. If it's not for you don't listen, that would be the end of it, but 'woke' (I hate the word myself but let's go with it) people aren't happy with that. They hate the fact that others want to hear these jokes and that awakens their little authoritarian side so they try to go about dictating who other people can listen to and just being moral busy bodies.
Exactly, people always use Ricky G and Chapelle as an example of cancel culture not existing, whilst pretending that it isn’t impacting grass roots level. You only have to watch new BBC commissioner comedy shows to see that diversity is fetishised over talent.
@@ofmiceandben humor and joy itself comes from suffering, the darker the darkness, the brighter the light
@@ofmiceandben "An immoral joke". There it is. That's from a comedian, you say? A COMEDIAN is saying which jokes are immoral? That fucking proves that wokeness HAS destroyed comedy lol.
Humour in copyrighting is paramount, humour and intelligence are directly proportional
Okay sorry mate. Can't watch this. As a fellow slash up, that intro has had to make me turn it off. Thank you though.
And being in a democracy that’s your right to switch off. I’m still watching 👍
Rob - how did I miss this?! Thin this dude is brilliant, such a great approach to life in general. He is hilarious but also has a briliant mind.
Despite disagreeing on most things, he would still be my best mate. Great personality, lovely bloke.
Why do you people act like you know these people? You don't know what his personality is like, you don't know if he's lovely. You just see the character is puts out, when he's in his own private space I'm sure he's not the same person you see on TV.
@@FriendlyHomie Which is the way you judge any person, on what you see of them. All you can do. Even your closest friends may be hiding behind a mask, and be an entirely different person in their own space. What's the difference?
A masterclass in fence sitting. Gervais, Chappelle were too big to cancel. They were widely reviled by other comedians for daring to allude to the issues of transgenderism. Any young unestablished comedian who did the same would not get a gig anywhere. Graham Linehan, the most successful comedy writer in Britain was thrown under the bus by his 'mates' for tweeting in support of women's rights. Moral cowards one and all. And so are you mate.
Completely true. It’s so ironic that comedians today are so censorious when they were influenced by a generation of comedians who were being censored.
Graham Linehan did a bit more than just tweet support for women. He did som much more that he was banned from twitter! Comedy should never be about punching down as that’s just bullying.
I think the success of people like Ricky Gervais is in spite of woke culture, being fired for opinions is real in the corporate world so people find it cathartic to watch offensive comics, but try being a slightly right of centre comic in small time comedy scenes, you'd get nowhere no matter how funny you are.
If audiences are laughing, you'll get work. There's an easy barometer, audience reaction.
The promoters and venues won't let you near the audiences, it's only a few holdout places that will. So I hear.
I love this man - he's says lots of things that I totally agree with
'I love ppl who echo my own thoughts'... no shit. What a rare phenomenon
I’ve always liked Russell, from first hearing the material about his dad, onwards. My mate, who was very into comedy, hated him. Funny old world!
And in the first min he dismantles the anti woke twaddle for what it is. It the rights new catch all term for anthing they don't like.
And he gets it complete wrong lmao woke = overtly politically correct and everyone uses it to mean this. He is being disingenuous
@@hoboguruthat maybe what you think it means but thats not what it means and thats the point.
So because some people he disagrees with still have a platform, therefore no speech is being stifled? What kind of pathetic logic is that? Look what's happened to Tucker Carlson ffs. There are only a handful of people he can even point to who say such "outrageous" things as a man cannot become a woman lol, that should maybe tell you something.
Everyone know what fucking woke means. It's politically correct on steroids, it's overly sensitive, hypocritical virtue signalling nonsense. Of course it's infested comedy. Hanah Gadsby's success should tell you all you need to know lol.
@@hoboguruexcept that’s not the actual definition of woke. That’s just what the right wing have told you it means so that it sounds stupid
@@hoboguruwoke means to be socially aware. Right wing have taken it to mean anyone asking them to be empathetic to society
🤦 And you wonder why he's not on TV anymore.
Why’s that?
Go on...
Cause he's not funny?
He's not a spokesman for the working class, and claiming that freedom of speech is a thinly veiled excuse for the 'working classes' to use racist, homophobic and misogynistic terms really does mark him out as being out of touch.
There is no so-called woke culture in the world which will turn me off of all the great old comedy.. they can rant on and on . But I have hundreds and hundreds of good old fashioned comedy shows on my hard drive and I will be watching it until the end of days and laughing hard
Russell is absolutely 💯 spot on and always is, the geezer
Does he not know he's not on telly any more because he's just not very funny? Does he think he's been cancelled?
Did you not watch any of this?
@@carlisroy6666 No, I've got better things, it's just been showing up in my ads for a few weeks and makes me chuckle every time
He’s never said anything original or intelligent enough to be cancelled. 😂
I saw Russell at the Brighton Dome couldn’t breathe for laughing 😂 A genius with a honest gift
Yeah ok
What’s the problem
Russell completely shot down the petty, stupid, right wing notion of “wokeism” and “cancel culture” with such immediate ease, it was a pleasure to see.
He is able to pull this off, not just bc of his style of humour, but bc he comes from an ordinary, working class background whilst possessing a unique personality and a curious intellect.
Actually he's able to pull it off because this guy wasn't offering any pushback whatsoever for the whole thing and when he does his own content it's just him and a camera so again no opposing view.
Cancel culture is not a right wing notion. A lot of writers, comedians, sportsmen and members of the public have been cancelled for expressing perfectly reasonable views. The calls for censorship are all coming from a bunch of left-wing bedwetters who believe themselves to be so morally superior to everyone else.
Stop being in my ad feed.
People are rewriting what the past was like and how comedy was used. I find it so funny that it isn't understood. Kane et al are in an ignorant state and should speak to more people who lived then... All people gay, black, women, white. There are more experiences to know about.
People with limited intelligence and humour don't get that comedy's changed, unfortunately. The worst of them will still be cracking up laughing at Bernard Manning decades after everyone else has begun to think of him as boring and unfunny. But they'll, *always* put it down to 'political correctness' or 'wokeness', rather than the fact that humour just doesn't last long, and everyone who isn't an old fart has changed, so comedy's had to change, too.
Bernard Manning was very funny.
People’s sense of humour doesn’t change over time, if there’s someone new who is similar to someone from years ago the same type of people will find them funny. A lot of comedians now act like schoolboys trying to impress their mates by moaning about politics seeking applauses of approval instead of actual laughs
If you are offended by comedy, watch someone else.
Simples
Shame. I like Russell but to label everyone who speak out against woke culture and free speech issues as "wanting to shout out N like the old days" tells me all I need to know about where he is at. If he cant see past that clearly incorrect (assumption?..belief?..virtue signal?) then he cant possibly add value to this aspect of the conversation.
It sounds like you didn't really listen to what he said.
He literally called out virtue signalling.
Exactly the narrow mindedness he was allud8ng to.
I love his stance on wokeness, political correctness and freedom of speech.
What, that he doesn’t believe in them? 😂
@@blue24563He absolutely believes in political correctness. What were you watching? Lol
Political bollox, cancel nothing, stop Wokeism now.
Brilliant interview.
He’s brilliant. Always thought so and this interview shows why. Smart and funny in equal measure. Plus he’s an old school raver 🙌
And he's a woke soy boy who thinks men can have periods
Really? He sounds dumb as shit to me.
I’m a big fan of Russell Kane.
Active, a lad and good on stage. Will always be one of my favourites!
Would be interested on his freedom of speech views today.....a year on and with all the revelations.
We need to speak our minds their are the easily offended brigade I see British humour as a massive making fun and taking the piss it's what make us laugh its a realease
Also, punching people in the mouth is a release too.
Comedy is about punching up not down!
Ive watched this all the way tbrough i love Russell anyway amd as hes said in tbis interview people that already like him arnt a challenge to him and i get that 100% haha. But when he was asked whos the most over rated comedian and he answered in such a respectable way like how can you messure humour amd laughs? You cant so how can anyone be over rated ever comedian out there has there fans and following from us all knowing what type of humour they do! So personally i loved that he mever answered that and has like he said reconised thqt he didnt come from thqt background so he knows how your mind has to work its hard work and i think hes great what an interview!! Loved it kept me engaged all the way through amd
Seen Russell countless times never offended by his act .nice guy very funny 😁
Very funny. Ask a question without understanding what the question is.
Really enjoyed this. Russell Kane is one of the few people out there that talks the talk. Humble and not full of sh*t.
You need a reset buddy. Speech is probably one of those powerful things on the planet!!! From friends family relations, to who runs the country. Who attacks and rules a country.
@@Foxtyl there has to be a line, or you get people like Andrew Tate or Milo Yawhatever who do active harm to the fabric of society, objectively.
This is the first time I have heard someone credibly defend Woke culture. This has changed my point of view slightly. Although I do think there are decisions made about editing or cancelling some comedy that are questionable or inconsistent.
Don’t watch many Disruptors videos, but this one topped my favourite one, which was the Eubank car-crash. Rob’s genuine flummox at how quick Russell’s brain works was insightful and without hubris. But the star of the show was Kane’s logic and intelligence delivered with council-estate wisdom. What an app - A Perfect Podcast😂
Love Russel Kane
I like Russell's stand up, saw him "live" once and he was far better than I had given him credit for. However he seems to have e fallen into the trap, off stating his opinion as a fact.
23:34, cracking pod cast 👌
Well said Russell
Using the word 'woke' to attack anyone who objects to cruelty or abuse is exactly like a playground bully excusing his persecution of his victim by saying 'I was only joking, get a sense of humour'
COFFEE laugh out loud . Yeh right . 🤫
Just for reference, channel 4 wasn't around in 1970
People with shit loads of money can say what they want and that's it. Hunger games soci
Offence is just a construct of mind. Why would you get offended by words made with a mouth. It’s so silly
I mean, it is more about the intention behind people's words. As time goes on, people become more aware of the history of the consequences of attitudes. If you are part of a minority community and somebody says something that verbally echoes the very real physical oppression of the past, it reminds them that if they aren't vigilant in opposing it while their power is at its highest in history, they are in danger of allowing those oppressive practices to slowly creep back in. So people aren't going to want to be in compliance with that slow march back to openly oppressive policies/actions. If someone says something regressive and offensive, it reminds them that were laws and public opinion still followed that offensive line, they would not be safe in the presence of the offensive person. Pride and allyship have been hard fought for - getting offended is just the internal low-level version of mass protesting oppressive practices and attitudes.
@@JB-qf5ep policing the intent behind people's words requires an awful lot of psychic powers that as far as I'm aware, the human race is yet to evolve.
If a lot of people were marching up and down and chanting that you should be in jail.... Would you ask them to stop ? Would you ask for a TV show that said everyone from your demographic is an idiot or thief to stop?
untill someone abuses your mothers virtue in public... sexually. Dont be that dick dude.
It's okay to be offended.. it's not okay to hold on the that feeling and turn it into violence, offending someone and belittling someone is two different things.
Russel is really self aware. Such a good insight into the mind of a comedian. Intelligent discussion on the business of life. A real disruptor.
Thoroughly enjoying Russell’s honestly, wit & humour 👍👍👍
Watched this yeaterday and have already forgotten the name of the book he likes, about the orphan kid, anyone know the name?
47? He looks bloody good for 47. I would have said 35.
Imagine giving that take on Dave Chapelle, what a fucking joke, best one Russell has ever managed.
If this guy is the outcome of uni then thank fk I avoided it
The two of them really aren't the same politically are they😅😅😅😅😅
What an interesting bloke.
That interviewing man sounds like mick jagger and Michael cane at the same time
He looks great well done Russell
If I was at a comedy gig and R K came on, I'd be really disappointed. He's never said anything I find funny.
And now I know he worked in advertising and marketing I know why. I agree with Bill Hicks about people who do that.
Look him up. He was such a funny guy
I honestly think Russell is a genius!
And to think some people say the word genius is overused.
@@sratus I'd put him on the same level as Einstein and Newton tbh
Why does Rob always have some sort of leather strap on his shoulder ? is it some sort of sexual code
Hear hear mr kane
He seems to be living in the common capitalist brainwashery illusion of ‘I need to be remembered for something before I die’.
Of course. Everyone has that. No one wants a funeral with 3 people all saying "well, he existed". Everyone wants to leave a legacy. Either as a good friend, a beloved person or someone who excelled in a particular field
I don't really see how wanting to be remembered has anything to do with capitalism.
Offence is taken not given.
Sure. Not naive at all.
Bring back Little Britain PLEASE
The difference is your chadnesss is now band
Tipsy twirly is no excuse for being banned for being a neutral person
So Russell,tell me your woke without telling me your woke
Why does he always have a belt buckle on his right shoulder???
He is amazing. Does he ever manage to sleep?
Woke sound like joke-
Before 2017 I can’t ever remember the word woke even existing.
What I dont understand is he keeps talking about being a working class chav, obviously growing up in the 80s but photos of him when he was younger would say otherwise
Just a lovely guy. I saw hime in Dubai last year at the opera house ☺️☺️☺️
Dude you ask where is the evidence then list comedians who say extreme stuff? It's a question about normal people not being able to say the v word without being deleted. Bs Broadcast Con.
But then again you couldn't say that
Rob 'I suppose I'd not really thought of the meaning' Moore.
Fuckin 'ell lad, you've had a shocker there.
Literally, literally, literally…….
What about certain comedians being cancelled in Scotland because freedom of speech act, it's totally different now than the 70's more sinister look at what happened to Graham Linean, Father Ted, I do like your humour Russell hav'nt seen you in ages.
This guy is absolutely clueless.
Russell - top top guy
Very intelligent man, one of which I admire
You at the same time used it as a reference and then as a reminder
You can’t use it too further your Carer then support
People that would ban the same people
What has the interviewer got in his handbag?
Vodka 😂
Woke comedy is an Oxymoron
People who bang on about woke are just morons.
It's surprising that Russell Kane came on your show or would even speak with you considering some of your past guests. I would have expected him to have boycotted you.
This is why he'll never be funny.
At the end of the day it’s comedy,a jokes a joke and no matter what the joke is someone will always be offended,you can’t live in a world where everything is how you think so just get over it ffs 😉👍😜
Russell Kane, Comedian? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Really enjoyed and valued this interview Rob, Russell and team, thank you. Why does everyone need to go to the bathroom after watching this interview?
Not a woke comedy type but he says some gods things
Unless you vote tory, and unless you voted to leave the EU, then you can not truly be called woke.
Hes a woke hypocrite is why
Fast forward one year successful comedians stating that they are being blocked from rolls or even representation within the industry based on immutable characteristic they happen to be born with in the name of justice and fairness apparently funny old world were words now mean to opposite of what they once did
This rob moore fella seems incredibly sensitive
Woke is nothing to do with 'type of humour' it's part of an agenda to criminalize most jokes. The jester was supposed to satirise the King, not pander to him.
Working in the ad game is great fun but it doesn’t compare to being on a stage and doing your thing (I’m not a comic I’m in music) if it goes tits up come work with me as I have a small full service agency as I like being a CD as well as other things.
He got cancelled because he isn't funny
I love this guy - I went to see him in Dubai.
Must be good gear that
He's wrong on covid but interesting discussion
What happened to the water bottle?
Why is he eating Eminem? I don't understand
Thanks for the "coming up." Everything I need to know I don't want to watch this