Carrying The Game WITHOUT Eco - Beyond All Reason Guide

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  • Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024

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  • @kunal06a
    @kunal06a Год назад +88

    I love that Drongo is making top tier BAR content, hopefully more people come to this game

    • @ArawnOfAnnwn
      @ArawnOfAnnwn Год назад +1

      Zero-K is another TA successor that's also available for free on Steam, and Sanctuary is an upcoming nextgen successor that should come out later this year or next year.

    • @manumaster1990
      @manumaster1990 Год назад +1

      @@ArawnOfAnnwn lol it doesn't even come close to the beauty of BAR!

    • @ArawnOfAnnwn
      @ArawnOfAnnwn Год назад

      @@manumaster1990 Which one?

    • @MrArcadia67
      @MrArcadia67 Год назад

      Servers rough though.

    • @eastsnowles1
      @eastsnowles1 Год назад

      I downloaded it today and I really love it. Even though I’m a big noob and have a lot to learn but it is so much fun

  • @Nil-js4bf
    @Nil-js4bf Год назад +59

    Improving the skill of the BAR community 1 video at a time

  • @spoderfriend9602
    @spoderfriend9602 Год назад +45

    Very spot on with the analysis as proven with the accurate foresight of what I was going to build next and seeing it happen within the next minute. Unfortunately in mixed lobbies some players are new and don't know how to scale into later stages of the game leading to our loss as the enemy team outscaled ours. Also for some reason the green player on my team decided to invest all resources into eco without an established frontline which evidently lets our enemies very easily walk right into our bases and destroy us without much effort.

  • @armed_but_blind2768
    @armed_but_blind2768 Год назад +26

    Im in this game haha been watching your guides today after realising last night that i didnt know how to eco late game and then come across the last game i played 😂

  • @bitslammer
    @bitslammer Год назад +13

    Great analysis and commentary. One possible bonus to a position on the side is that you won't get flanked so that kind of balances out the having no ally on that side. Also that big explosion was the fiends chain exploding from the pulsar blast. I can't find any definitive info but they do seem to chain react when grouped like that.

    • @andrewgreeb916
      @andrewgreeb916 Год назад +3

      Fiends have increased explosion radius so chain reacting can happen

  • @4twstdmdl
    @4twstdmdl Год назад +7

    See units kill count @ 28:18 in top right corner of of selected unit pane in bottom left corner of screen. On the same line level as its name "Pulsar" if you go to the end you'll see a skull & cross bones with the number 7 over it. I think it got an extra shot in on something else before you checked so it probably got like 5-6 on that hit.

  • @bluu.0111
    @bluu.0111 Год назад +2

    This was a classic case of the backline not being able to scale and help out front. Like you said, by thirty minutes, backline should be at 8-10 AFUS. They weren't close to that level and so coouldn't compete. Green also got too much pressure off him and ended up getting complacent and not making units. He didn't even have fusion at 37 minutes. The best outcome for this game would've been if backline just tech 1 spammed and surged across the map with front. People trying to be fancy when the game can get settled by everyone just t1 spamming as a team.

  • @exciting-burp
    @exciting-burp Год назад +4

    In supcom lan (so potentially nowhere close to meta), i would mix in a very small amount of AA in infinite queues, with very little amortized cost (and TA is all about amoetized costs). I would pull them back slightly when i had APM to spare. Everyone copied it, and it completely eliminated air from our games. This also worked against some of the higher tiers of moded AI. Spare AA units were VERY powerful and slightly broken (the same applied to scouts and shields).

  • @PySnek
    @PySnek Год назад +7

    It destroyed 7 units. 28:15 you can see the amount of kills if you hover over the unit (the skull symbol with the number on the upper right corner of the tooltip on the same line like the name (Pulsar))

  • @JohnSmith-lc1ml
    @JohnSmith-lc1ml 7 месяцев назад +1

    Drongo taught me how to play aoe3 then he left us and now ive moved onto BAR and hes here and his content is just as good.

  • @SilentStrum
    @SilentStrum Год назад +2

    There is now a widget to show you build radius of cons and the commander. Idk what episode you requested it, but it exists now.
    Also i'm working on a widget for bigger team stats in the top right

  • @tinwax
    @tinwax Год назад +2

    Drongo, select a single unit and press Q to select all of that exact same unit. can be used in game or in spec mode to select only one unit type. its a basic key command you can find on the standard hotkeys. keep up the good content.

    • @leyline_leila
      @leyline_leila Год назад +2

      It's not standard hotkeys. It's on the grid keys setting. On default, Q is for drawing.

    • @wildca1x1
      @wildca1x1 Год назад

      On standard it's ctrl+z

  • @ly_0
    @ly_0 Год назад +6

    3-4 fusions feels too slow even for frontline. Very often in my games it really feels that if I don't scale up quickly enough on frontline, their backline will come kill us. It's hard to trust my backline to scale up fast enough and win the game :/

    • @dubhd4r4
      @dubhd4r4 Год назад

      Never stop ecoing, make your own backline base if your team is slow.

  • @dragoken1616
    @dragoken1616 Год назад +2

    @Drongo You can see a unit's kills on the cross and bones when you select them in the upper right corner of the unit's window btw

  • @nielsgroeneveld8
    @nielsgroeneveld8 Год назад +2

    Liked the vid, I just have some minor disagreements.
    Most of the fiend kills at some point were from the fatboys.
    At 35:00 you "flame" his backline player, but the backline player gave half his energy converters to him (the frontliner).

  • @justinian420
    @justinian420 Год назад +1

    Super helpful. I usually go for 2 fusions before advanced, now I will try for 4 instead, will try for the forward vehicle plant too

  • @antongrahn1053
    @antongrahn1053 Год назад +2

    Keep up the guides, helps alot.

  • @StaffanNilsson1
    @StaffanNilsson1 7 месяцев назад

    Really nice video. Thanks! I'm always amazed how people are able to talk for an hour straight.

  • @PL-iw7jo
    @PL-iw7jo Год назад +1

    I think it just makes sense to keep the fusions and give them to anyone on your team who is struggling.

  • @robochopp9031
    @robochopp9031 8 месяцев назад

    I think you are the best content creator from BAR

  • @snuffinperl8059
    @snuffinperl8059 Год назад +1

    you commentary is very nicely done and you seem to know your stuff!!

  • @DreaMeRHoLic
    @DreaMeRHoLic Год назад +2

    27:45 that wasnt the pulsar.... that big boomwas done by the fatboys

  • @The-Scottish-Princess
    @The-Scottish-Princess Год назад +1

    enjoyed seeing my friend get told hes shit in a polite way lmao

  • @dougobrien3361
    @dougobrien3361 Год назад

    I have no idea what this game is but you make it entertaining.

  • @alexyu4549
    @alexyu4549 Год назад +1

    Thank you for the great video! For future reference, tachyon is pronounced tack-ee-on

  • @kyleburke7285
    @kyleburke7285 7 месяцев назад

    I've joined the community, and man, the people are awesome. Most r great people, some r straight sweats, but you'll have that in all games
    You make great content, and I am subing

  • @SuperKitowiec
    @SuperKitowiec Год назад

    Thank you for this. Exactly what I needed

  • @durtyrandy2485
    @durtyrandy2485 Год назад +1

    "side being more difficult" yes you do not have ally coverage from 1 side, but you need to weight that against you having multiple attack angles from opponents. mid is difficult becuase of how exposed you are to multiple enemies

  • @kiler273
    @kiler273 Год назад

    when you open unit window, in top right corner are that unit kills, it's relevant for lvl up's

  • @robochopp9031
    @robochopp9031 8 месяцев назад

    I trink youbare making the best bar Kontext!!!!>

  • @ZachRE88
    @ZachRE88 Год назад +1

    The amount of time it took for back line to react to the hole in the front line is depressing to see. Can’t be in the back playing city skylines while your front liner is getting 3v1. It took all the pressure off of Rockfish who then snowballed and crushed the field.

  • @tomblack2064
    @tomblack2064 Год назад +4

    This looks frigging excellent! Did any of the developers of Total Annihilation have a hand in this; because it has that kind of theme

    • @kenvanpassen9247
      @kenvanpassen9247 Год назад +7

      It is Total Annihilation reloaded, created and maintained by a very passionate team of TA lovers. Up until 2years ago the units and structures even had the original TA names :) And did I mention it is still completely free to download and play? :D Enjoy

    • @tomblack2064
      @tomblack2064 Год назад +3

      ​@@kenvanpassen9247 nooooooo way. I'm gonna start playing this. I loved TA

  • @mercurius9021
    @mercurius9021 Год назад

    Thanks that's what I needed!

  • @YaGirlJuniper
    @YaGirlJuniper Год назад

    You can't always reclaim fusions for metal when you're booming as the frontline. When you're the frontline, you're not just powering your converters, you're also powering your base defenses, your artillery, your team's radar and radar jammers, your energy weapons, and units that have energy requirements to shoot. All sorts of things that can suddenly spike their power usage unexpectedly and drain your whole fkin pool if they have to run for an extended period, and then it all shuts off and the bad guys get through. It is not always safe to reclaim power plants for metal as the frontline. I'd rather be overflowing power sometimes than not have enough when I need my guns to fire.

  • @NatanStarke
    @NatanStarke 4 месяца назад

    How to carry the front, ask cortex to save you. Jokes aside fun game and comments i learned things from it :).

  • @SandyG3TX
    @SandyG3TX Год назад

    Love the BAR videos.

  • @andyderp6473
    @andyderp6473 Год назад

    I like one early fatboy during mid game in the Q (so 8 hounds radar jammer and 1 fatboy etc) and immediately removing them from my line once any spam shows up, also transporting one up on those cliff faces has worked well, but yes I can't stand when fatboys are made when spams happening

  • @Valchrist1313
    @Valchrist1313 9 месяцев назад

    43:00 one bomb takes out two almost three whole bases

  • @johngreen2468
    @johngreen2468 Год назад

    27:50 no the pulsar didnt blow up all these tiny units, it was fatboys

  • @TheJBerg
    @TheJBerg Год назад

    Thanks

  • @MrHaggyy
    @MrHaggyy 9 месяцев назад

    Well the kind of mistake he made twice this game was investing a little bit far upfront. Once with the laser to claim the metal in the middle. And the second time with his T3 lab that was kind of open because the lane next to him falled. On the otherhand you need to be aggressiv and it would be a perfect position to push into the other half of the map.

  • @yukimiasma9590
    @yukimiasma9590 Год назад

    idk about other people but i call Tachyon as "Tack-key-on"

  • @ProtagonistOfficial
    @ProtagonistOfficial Год назад

    Can't tell whether spoderfriend is a BugFables references or not, lol.

  • @KyranFindlater
    @KyranFindlater Год назад

    whoa, I played with Drongo just the other day! What a cracker!

  • @manumaster1990
    @manumaster1990 Год назад

    nice

  • @KyranFindlater
    @KyranFindlater Год назад

    at 14:00 you're giving a lot of credit to Spoderfriend causing the opposing team's backline to be shit, but really the game is still early and their trajectories were going to be shit almost regardless of what spoderfriend did on the front line in his lane. Their choice to keep more of their team in T1 and push with units is potentially an early game tactic to maybe overwhelm him? He's handling it okay, sure, but otherwise the causal nature is not strong enough to hypothesize here..

  • @gustavmeier1953
    @gustavmeier1953 Год назад

    The only thing i learned is 5 vs 4 is better then 4 people chilling in the back doin nothing

  • @onyxia8786
    @onyxia8786 Год назад

    16:40 but there's no dragon's teeth!! BOOO

  • @TheEVEInspiration
    @TheEVEInspiration 3 месяца назад

    In the few matches I played now I hate the "look here" messages, it is not clickable and therefore meaningless on a map this large.
    It only distracts and is not information, but disinformation.

    • @gaborkocsis9244
      @gaborkocsis9244 3 месяца назад

      You can click on them with ctrl if I remember correctly. Also there's a little icon next to the player's name who pinged, that's also clickable for a short while.

  • @falshion1837
    @falshion1837 6 месяцев назад

    If someone could tell me, what is the main focus in this rts? Mirco, Macro, Strategy, or is it a good balance of everything?

    • @rinkashikachi
      @rinkashikachi Месяц назад +1

      Micro is useful but is def the lowest priority. Macro is the most important

  • @thegorn
    @thegorn Год назад

    New game who dis?

  • @Soaptastesok
    @Soaptastesok 5 месяцев назад

    28:20 shits on the fatboy but then gives their credit to a pulsar :(

  • @benasmalmiga8953
    @benasmalmiga8953 Год назад

    Comment for the algorithm

  • @Soaptastesok
    @Soaptastesok 5 месяцев назад

    I can tell you don't watch a lot of Star Trek. It's tak-ee-on :)

  • @JensBuehl
    @JensBuehl Год назад

    Really hard to follow (visually) compared to aoe4. Except for the coloring a lot looks the same and/or very tiny.
    But any rts content ist better than none :) . I just prefer aoe4 so far. Looking forward to season 5.

    • @CJTongue
      @CJTongue Год назад +2

      You get used to the units very quickly and then the zoomed out views are really helpful to see what is going on. When playing you tend to zoom in and out a lot but it makes for a really bad video, so you either get crazy jump cuts everywhere, nauseating zooms or just a little too zoomed out but watchable...

  • @michaelwaters6829
    @michaelwaters6829 7 месяцев назад

    His backline threw the game

  • @iservHim
    @iservHim 10 месяцев назад

    Hahahahaha I love fatboys but yeah they’re the kings of friendly fire

  • @KonnorGann
    @KonnorGann Год назад

    First :D

  • @tical4869
    @tical4869 Год назад

    Too many pauses...

  • @TimoRutanen
    @TimoRutanen Год назад

    Not enough Star Trek under the belt for the word 'Tachyon'! /ˈtɑ.xiˌɔn/