MAJOR EDIT: Hello everyone, so as I'm sure most of you know, there were some scans shown in my Ulquiorra vs Juubito video that I've now since removed entirely, using the RUclips editor. These scans were in reference to a "conversation" with a writer for BLEACH movie: Hell Verse, and how it was discussed between said writer and Tite Kubo that there were a few questions we had, which were confirmed by her/him during the production of the movie. - My researcher actually provided me with incorrect statements/screenshots, even though I specified to them (I have screenshots of this) to double check if it was the real account. Before this, I had zero reason to assume they would ever send me faulty information, as they've been extremely reliable in the past. I've been scaling BLEACH since 2014, and take pride in how much this series means to me. This is my first major error that I've ever made, and I am deeply sorry to you BLEACH fans out there who take my word as being accurate or reliable. In the future, I promise to never make a mistake like this again, and I am immensely sorry for this situation. It's 100% my fault for not looking more into this, myself. Break up with basic browsers. Get Opera GX using my link: www.operagx.gg/clyde
You should also apologize to the Naruto fans not just the bleach fans Just shows how much you only care about one and not the other you’re emitting bias all over not going to lie🤷🏾♂️
Ulquiorra was BORN depressed, Obito just became depressed, that's a huge difference. Actually, being depressed was such a fundamental part of Ulquiorra that the moment he felt anything other than sadness or indiference for more than a second the dude literally BECAME DUST. Obito has no chance in this match, he even saw the light before dying.
Can’t understand how Ulqiorra could be just as fast or even slower than light on a lowball, especially when you confirm a cero is light speed. If cero is at least light speed because they’re all light based, you’re scaling menos grande cero to light speed. Surely this gives any Espada a scaling waaaaay above light speed if you want to say an espada can dodge a menos grande’s cero.
Yeah, I'm guessing people could try and say cero are all the same speed but there are statements saying different cero move at different speeds. And either way it's common sense that a menos grande is slower than an espada cero or else cero is literally useless to an espada.
@@powerscallingfiend gins bankai is not mach 500, if u read the data book it describes the speed of the bankai as 500x the speed of gins hand clap, NOT the sound of the clap
27:20 Wait.. so its over? IT'S FINALLY OVER! The dumb debate on cero's not being SoL due to being "spiritual light" (even though EVERYTHING in bleach has a soul due to how fullbring powers work) is finally over...
The debate is dumb but no. This is not a credible source. Private DMs that anyone can fake is not reliable, we need a public statement on it. People have been pointing out that the Japanese is wrong.
If we based on Science, Cero would be SoL, becuz its light and doesnt have a mass, what makes light SoL? It not having a mass right? So it means based Cero would be SoL and can be faster.
@@patrickmorin752 update: Matsubara Makoto just posted on twitter confirming she never answered fan questions about bleach. The screenshots were faked. Yeah, another bleach RUclipsr I lost respect for.
Imagine a rhino fighting a unicorn. I'd wager the unicorn beats the rhino in sheer spiritual pressure - although the rhino has the upper hand in the taijutsu department. If we scale this up to grandiose dragon levels, a level 2 rhino would easily be beaten by a level 1 chakra infused KCM mode unicorn with a triple eternal Mangekyou sharingan and a borrowed Gear 5 Nika fruit.
“What is a heart?” -Ulquoirra “Uh…” -Juubito “Can I have yours?” -Ulquoirra *”AYO CHILL!”* -Juubito “You’re looking real cute right now as the humans say.” -Ulquoirra
What I don’t get is why when it comes to bleach the argument is “it’s spiritual light” but any other anime like Naruto it’s never chakra light 😂 like why does it only matter what the light is made of when we’re talking about bleach?!?!?! Light attacks in Naruto aren’t actual(natural) light , same for dbz and every other anime for the most part
Bcus people are petty and have a hatred for Bleach. I was literally in a debate with someone who tried using that as an excuse and all he could do was reiterate the same thing over and over again bcus I caught him in a situation that made him look stupid. He tried to say it's not real light yet I gave numerous examples of other Shinigami using elemental attacks like fire, Ice, wind and even non-elemental attacks like shadows (shunsui) and they're taken as literally what they are but you mean to tell me light attacks that were never stated to not actually be light shouldn't be taken as light...made him look extra slow
The funny thing is that ninjutsu that use nature change chakra being different than its natural counterpart is an actual plot point in Naruto that's brought up several times, such as during Sasuke's battle with Itachi and Might Guy vs Kisame
@@corruptangel6793 didn't Boruto also think what's his name was gonna absorb the flames but Kawaki told him that it was impossible bcus those flames weren't made with Chakra?
@@kaimobley5324 I haven't read/watched Boruto, so I don't know, but it wouldn't suprise me as that's one of the things that happened during the Might Guy and Kisame fight.
@ClydeRUclipsr Bro, we need a Ichigo, Aizen, Zaraki power/tier/comparison video. There are seriously plenty of people that think Zaraki is on Ts Ichigo and Aizen lvl. Also I'd like to ask you something. How close do you think Adult Tosh, Zaraki, Byakuya, and Shunsui scale eos (tybw). I think they are fairly close. 1. Adult Tosh allaround and def best hax 2. Shunsui second best hax 3. Zaraki powerwise above Shunsui but loses because of Shunsuis hax 4. Byakuya People always make Zaraki like he one shots them all. I had many debates because of that. I think there needs to be a video how close they actually are
I mean there haxs straight up beat his strength,we literally know his bankai does more damage to himself than to some top tier characters.@@muchoyurdem5260
@redred1952 No, it doesn't. Stop making up lies. Literally 99% of yall who claim this nonsense never once even read a single chapter from that novel. Nowhere in any volume, chapter, or page does it state anywhere that "Zaraki is on Ichigos lvl" And a statement that Zaraki is able to beat someone that Ichigo is able to do doesn't mean that Zaraki is on Ichigos lvl. Hisagi literally beat Hikone does that make him Ichigo lvl? By far not!!! Both Renji and Zaraki are able to beat Mask the Masculine, does that make Renji Zaraki lvl? Clearly not!!! We/you don't just make up your own interpretations. Hikone nor Ikomikidomoe are even close to Soul King Yhwach lvl
0 discussion needed on if Bleach scales beyond light. Literally Cero & Bala both exist as attacks of light and 1 is verbatim multitudes faster than the other.
10:55 THANK YOU. Swear people will say that and use it downplay feats but then can never actually tell you how fast it is or why it’s slower than actual light.
They don't need to tell you how fast it is, it's up to the person trying to use it as a feat to determine that. To ask them to prove the opposite is an appeal to ignorance.
I can’t say it enough, man. Nothing beats that early 2000s anime edge. The style and the grittiness is still immaculate to this day. Ulquiorra will always have that drip no matter what form he takes 👌
35:05 excuse me, did you just say that Ulquiorra is stronger than TYBW Shunsui and Adult Toshiro? I mean, I like Ulquiorra but that is just ridiculous.
@rayvonvelez3129 maybe not beat but the fact that urahara dkesmt really train but went from not only getting shikai attacks deflected by base hyper casual ulquiorra rhen going on to figjt askin who should be relative in holy form to senjumaru. I mean not only that. But kisuke went from not being able to sence aizens power to being able to sense his power as he's fighting yuha but not fully. Implying through bleqch zenkais he got stronger after fighting amd losing to kararakura aizen in his silver surfer mode
@@ClydeRUclipsrInteresting, even though a note; even if that could happen, it would still make Byakuya susceptible to genjutsu, just how Sasuke got Killer Bee under genjutsu for a moment. I know it was just for a moment since Hachibi awake him, but still that moment can decide a fight, if Sasuke would have finished him quickly when he was on the floor unconscious.
@@xlRyuseibyakuya resist to pepe total charm > genjutsu -Doesn't work on the Edo tensei, and will work even less on a shinigami who's completely dead. -genjutsu need chakra the fact it requires your foe to have chakra coils (a biological feature exclusive to the naruto verse because of chakra being introduced to them) -shinigami can easily negate with reiatsu or break out -zanpakuto souls
Obito has better regen, I think. Ulquiorra regen is more limited, so even if both are stat-equalized, Obito has a wider arsenal and better regen to keep going. Both are my favorite of each verse. W Video as always.
Maybe, but if you compare speed itself, I don't know how Obito is competing with ulquiorra's speed. If Menos at the very start of the series, where even ichigo is able to react to their light-speed attacks with his fat zanpakto....to Ulquiorra, not even in segunda, is able to completely speed blitz a much much stronger ichigo, to the point where he wasn't even able to comprehend the attack because it was so fast...I know the war arc in naruto gave a bunch of it's characters crack but like....I don't think Naruto verse atp really has any comparable to speed feats to that.
@@iferan4166 I mean if KCM naruto and base minato make light speed raikage look like a joke and they are getting blitz by juubito then I guess you make and argument to him being that fast but idk if it is enough based on what we see from the goat espada himself
@@m.c4847 Minato teleports, that's not technically speed. Also, what speed feats does Naruto have KCM naruto have besides taking a few tries to out speed the guy who uses LIGHTNING armor. To be fair, Madara uses a light based attack later on in the fight and six paths buffed Naruto manages to dodge it narrowly, but like I said that was later...when he was buffed from the sage of the six paths. And again, a Bala would be 20x speed of light....and people in the verse react to and dodge those so... In terms of attacking power, during the war arc it's a little ambiguous, I mean, we see them blow up mountains and summon meteors, not specifically from Jubito but from people who he should at the very least scale to. The only part you could really give it to Jubito imo, is his various hax. Genjutsu is a bit iffy, since it kind of depends on how you argue naruto vs bleach as a whole. If you want to do the cross verse thing where chakra=spiritual energy, you also have aizen's statement on higher spiritual energy neggs hax from someone with weaker spiritual energy. There's also his intangibility, but he has to choose between attacking and remaining intangible, and ulquiorra as I previously talked about, is very much likely, faster than Jubito, by a lot if we go by feats. Just looking at what each of them have for feats, I mean, jubito does have hax, but like I said those hax have noticeable counters. So It's kind of hard not to just give it to Ulq.
@@iferan4166 I’ll admit it’s a bit of a stretch but there is still an argument to be made. Raikage having lightning armor is not some sort of anti feat lightning based jutsu are usually way faster than natural lightning. But anyway minato doesnt just teleport he thinks reacts and attacks faster than light speed raikage can before he even has kyubi chakra. Naruto outspeeds raikage then gets another buff which is kcm2 and rinnegan obito was still faster before absorbing the 10 tails which by itself is already well over light speed because it scales above 9 tails
19:42 thats not chakra, thats sage energy. You combine sage enegery with chakra to get sage chakra. Chakra isnt mentioned a single time when talking about the vastness of 10 tails
Kubo stated that he wanted to make white and ulquiorra fight a bit more equal he stated the hellverse movie was a glimpse of what he wanted to do. In the show the fight was a 60/40. But in reality, it should have been a 55/45 fight. All i can say is plot weakened my boy ulquiorra. Because the staff wanted to push the ichigo vs. aizen, so they limited the fight.
@@FortunateNonhlanhla-r6rI mean i personally am not doubting Clyde but he still has to prove that the statement actually came from the director otherwise we can't really use it in a debate/argument as evidence
Clyde its been too long. I miss watching your videos, especially the power scaling ones. Watching or reading any new anime or manga? It was cool hearing you talk about chainsaw man and scary Makima was. Of course my favorites are the bleach ones but always love watching your anime vids in general.
Ulquiorra's 2nd release could indeed be stronger than Shunsui and Staark but I doubt it scales to old man Yama because base Aizen sealed Yama Zanpakuto via WW instead of trying to tangle with Shikai Yama. And even after it was still unclear if Aizen could beat Yama without any weapons Only chance Juubito would have is a Genjustu which we have no idea how well would work on Bleach characters, the closest thing to a Genjtsu we have in Bleach is As Nodt's shrift The Fear but that is fundamentally different function. Still I think Segunda Release Ulq would overwhelm Juubito in speed and power and get the W.
I think that Aizen sealed Yama's Zanpakuto because of the AOE. I mean even though he used kyoka suigetsu if old man Yama could use his flames on the entire FKT it would be pointless to make ilusions. But that's just my thought proccess
Also Ulqiorra felt a lot more treathing than some of the top tier sternritters up until now. He has the raw strenght to fight some of them but doesn't have the hax. Like try giving any schrift to Ulq and watch him dogwalk most of the verse
I agree with everything been said but why is it assumed gen jutsu would work on bleach characters? Also getting an official light speed statement from Mr kubo is insane 😂 I respect the dedication
@@chriscolombie4135 well in the Itachi Novels it's made clear anyone with an MS can put someone without chakra under Genjutsu however Juubito can't use his MS abilities which would shut down the possibility. So it would only work in Verse Equalization
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@@kaimobley5324 Bleach characters negate genjutsu through spiritual pressure. it is also stated that they can only be affected by astral weapons and abilities.
obito's taking the dub. that 10 tails power is just in a different realm of power. the only thing i can see keeping ulquiorra in the fight is his regeneration. i also don't think he has the arsenal to apply real damage to obito.
Juubito negates regeneration tho. That's one thing I think they didn't show in the video, but when Juubito ripped Minato's arm off, it never grew back up, we even see the dude's spirit leave the Edo Tensei and he's missing his arms as a spirit, so Juubito's attacks, especially with the Truth Seeking Orbs, would absolutely negate Ulquiorra's regen.
@Demi_Arts Then why was his spirit missing the arms, when Hagaromo undid the Edo Tensei to send him to the afterlife. His actual ghost is missing the arms, bro is armless for all eternity now
Could you make a vid that goes in detail to validate those scans in 27:18, A lot of people don't believe those scans are real so it would really help to completely cement the argument that ceros are light speed if you could make a vid with evidence of those scans being real.
Bleach scaling from the hueco mundo arc to tybw seems weird. Like the story makes it seem like destroy Los Noches (basically a country) is a big thing, yet in tybw its shown that gremmy can just casually create space (yes he created it and didn’t just open a portal to space, its said in cfyow that he created/manifested outer space, not a portal to it, you can simply search it up). Unless you take Shinji's "affecting the WotL" statement as him referring to the dimension and not the earth but it seems weird to do that.
That’s because los noches isn’t only country sized. It’s a pocket dimension created by the hogyoku. It literally has its own sun within it. Which would line up because in cfyow I believe, Shinji stated that grimmjow could basically blast away the sun with a gran ray cero. Hence why it’s not allowed to be used within los noches. The gap still is large between tybw and hueco mundo arc, but not as big as you make it seem.
Gremmy ability was a hax ability, he doesn't have some universal level of power, the most direct destructive thing he did was the meteor which I will say was impressive since it was going to destroy the seireitei and probable a majority of both sternritter and shinigami
I am pretty new here (subbed within the last few weeks). I haven't subbed to noodles yet but with how awesome this video is I definitely will.😁 You guys are great I would love to see more from both of you.😊 Have a great day everyone 😜
I really enjoyed the video, and I'm glad you covered this topic because this was a versus battle I always thought would've been interesting due to the similarities within their characters in philosophy as well as serving as the second to a primary antagonist in the form of Aizen and Madara. Based on what was said about Ulquiorra, im curious how far he could've gone against the royal guard and how absolutely terrifying he would've been if he lived and trained. I'm looking forward to your next video.
Honestly I don't even seeing them fighting each other more like a debate on what is a heart and can you truly call a world with out suffering peace or just an illusion because you cant handle the reality of misery.
I need more Naruto v Bleach Vids. Even if the Naruto Character doesnt win the fact I trust these two to scale them correctly is what matters to me. Naruto characters are imo always downplayed and get knocked down to just being mountaain level when they are so much stronger.
to be fair, in the early episodes of bleach, when Uryu was still using a bow id be more enclined to say that his projectiles could be moving anywhere between sound or light speed, the minimum because of the bow itself and max because its shooting light. but there is no real way to tell but most likely it is light speed even tho it would be odd for something to scale that high being so close to the start of the series. but the ones he fired at Ulquiorra should be FTL without question because that's what alot of the feats in that part are or have passed by that point of the series. the problem is for something to be FTL you shouldn't even be able to see light emitting from the projectile because it's traveling faster then the light itself so the light shouldn't be able to keep up with projectile. I'd like to point out that helicopters when doing night operations use tracer rounds you see the rounds light up but it doesn't make the bullets light speed or anything close to it.
11:15 it’s also worth noting that when Candace’s lightning arrows were being described in canon CFYOW, they were stated to be slower than actual lightning, meanwhile her lightning strike power was stated to surpass natural lightning. Not that this necessarily means anything, but I feel like a similar statement would exist somewhere for Cero’s if they were actually slower or faster than lightspeed. Unless mentioned otherwise, it’s quite reasonable to assume they’re the same speed. And on that topic, I always felt the Gin debunk was dumb. #1: It’s just ONE outlier anti feat. #2: Mach 1000 is very fast TRAVEL speed for a blade that can move 14km. Travel speed and combat speed are different. #3: Ichigo actually had no trouble reacting to it’s extensions in the manga, it was more how fast Gin could MOVE the blade with his wrists that was troubling him. Naturally Gin’s swing speed would be similar to his combat speed which would scale above other characters who are already in the FTL range. #4: This is Gin we’re talking about.. c’mon he lies about everything.
heres one thing i wonder, shouldnt amaterasu technically be considered light speed, if its aimed by eye contact and the speed of eye contact is the speed it takes light to travel from the object to ur eyes, which makes the speed of the attack the speed of light. ik that would mean that the bottleneck is the speed in which eyes can twitch but the speed of the attack from the moment u make eye contact is the speed of light, right?
Clyde explain urself ? u made the hole bleach fandom looks like fruads bcz of ur fake scan , ngl take a break from power scaling , faking scans esp being apart of the "chillest fanbase" just dissapoints me
@@mohamedalaa8643 AFAIK mangas get their pages scanned (basically take a picture of the page) so you can post them digitally I havent watched the video but im guessing that some of the text wasnt correct
This is an interesting video but I think you should do a video on Senjumaru or Jugram at some point. They are honestly really cool characters. Hope that Yamamoto video comes out within the next year or so though.
Sorry but that screenshot of the DMS between your friend and Matsubara can be easily faked, some people have pointed out that the Japanese text is wrong. Are you sure you can trust your source?
People need to understand that the scans weren’t purposely fake and that it wasn’t Clyde’s fault. This doesn’t change the fact that Ulq scales above the ENTIRE Naruto verse and would win.
What's with people thinking Laser Circus is light speed? Laser Circus is lightning that can move like water. Lightning can normally only move straight, the purpose of Laser Circus is to be able to turn and freely move like "water", hence the storm release. Just because sage art Light Fang is actually light, doesn't make every storm release technique light speed.
It’s not lightning, it’s lightning and water release mixed together to form storm release. it’s also directly stated to be light rays and lasers. (Lasers are also light beams) the 2 jutsu’s that are storm release are laser circus and lightfang both of which are lightspeed
Fr. Juubito stated that it was used by sage of six paths "to create this world" Probably, after Hagoromo's and Hamura's battle against Kaguya the world was destroyed, so hagoromo used the sword of nunoboko to re-create or re-shape the world. OP sword
@@mazeluchi9508 gremmy's power is not fodder his mind is should a smarter character got the visionary even the almighty would not be able to match it's strength
26:45 and 27:13 these seem like very useful statements, is there proof that they're real? obviously i trust u not to just make sum shit up but for the sake of using them in debates and stuff, seems like the cero one especially would clear up a lot of annoying downplay
@@mazeluchi9508 It isn't enough to debunk shit, plus Ichigo dodged it gin had to use his own speed to gain on Ichigo. I did hear he is going to make a live video addressing it so imma wait til that video drop before i can give my conclusion.
@@victorijeomah7545 debunk what ? A youtuber thinking he is bleach author ? Ok little kid ; Sasuke kid is light speed then ; scall haku who IS stated light speed in one databook ✌🏼
Its ignored that hollows are amped by being in hueco mundo so some ulquiorra feats are kinda iffy, but if juubito and ulquiorra were fighting in hueco mundo than all of this is pretty true
Straight up underrated powerhouse, so much immense potential that rivals Yamamoto, especially against high-tier fighters while holding back. Byakuya and Itachi are iconic characters, each possessing unique abilities and philosophies. Byakuya’s mastery of kido and his elegant fighting style contrast sharply with Itachi’s cunning strategy and powerful Sharingan. Their contrasting traits highlight the complexity of their abilities and the narratives they represent in their worlds.
The difference with 'light' is that magic glowy stuff is often just called light, with no implication for speed. Like the arrows of light are still arrows of light when they're sitting still.
@@Keepitchill420 I guess a bullet is not as fast as a bullet should be because its not fired. By that same logic, Naruto has no Light speed feat. The Laser Madara spit was just chakra spit.
@@khulmach9662 the arrows Uryu shoot aren’t light speed because we see the actual projectiles move in real time, same with every other attack, it’s like claiming Jedi have light speed reactions because they can deflect blaster bolts. Blaster bolts look like light, does that make them light speed? No, they’re just lasers. Also, everything about the light speed claim can easily be dismantled by when the characters actually move, if Ichigo has FTL reactions why was he struggling with Gin’s bankai? Mach 1000 isn’t even light speed.
@@khulmach9662 difference is that light can't be held still. Light is one speed, always, no matter what, the ways to 'slow it' are just making it not be light for a moment, so the speed mandate isn't there. More important tho is narrative weight. masks lasers are clearly displayed as actual light and given emphasis. Light speed is a commonly known thing that carries weight. The idea that an author introduced it with no hints until a data book that he probably only tangentially had any involvement with and wouldn't expect the audience to interact with, is ridiculous
@@Mystravian Multiple stories have Light attacks that move at the speed of light while being capable of being stopped because they have a specific shape.
I feel like this needs to be stated again because the whole lightspeed feats get really out of hand and really wanky, especially in Naruto. Everyone mentions Dairu's light based attack but... When him, Gaara, Temari and even Kankuro attacked Sasuke at once everyone elses attacks where moving alongside the 'light' based attack. Therefore... that attack is NOT lightspeed. If you want something to be lightspeed than it needs to have light speed effects... and what I mean by that is that if Gaara's sand is moving at lightspeed it would impact differently... like No one is ever going to convince me that the Flamethrower from the Sasori puppet is shooting at lightspeed. Also, if characters were really moving at lightspeed there wouldn't be such a long travel scene and yet for some reason something so simple eludes these 'powerscalers' If Naruto characters really could move at lightspeed they would be jumping from fucking Trees... I mean why are you jumping from tree to tree when you move at the speed of light...? Minato is famous for his speed.. because he has a teleportation feat... like so what if he can instantly vanish and appear somewhere else... you can move at lightspeed... if they could move at the speed of light there would have been no need for those Jonin to use the flying raijin to get the Mizukage to the battlefield.. the time they spent locking their arms around her she could have been there already. If you can move at light speed you can move around the planet 7x in a single second dude... you people OBVIOUSLY don't even comprehend just how fast that is... you just see something that looks like like and just assume.
Ok so I just wanna say that characters having long travel scenes is purely for dramatic effect. I mean, would you find it fun to see people just move from one place to another instantly all the time? Well I wouldn't but if you would thats your preference ig. (Also just so you know, I'm not here to argue about Naruto characters' speeds since I havent even watched it yet lol)
@@argusvoidstar4177 I am not a huge comic nerd but they do it all the time in DC/Marvel. It would be less entertaining... sure but that doesn't change the fact that if they were lightspeed, they wouldn't have to travel like they do... and I am just pointing out how insane it is that people actually believe Naruto characters are just casually lightspeed..
Yeah Im getting sick and tired of powerscalers taking scans and statements too seriously. For example, Darth Vader says that the Death Star is nothing compared to the power of the Dark Side( or he said the Force, whatever), so powerscalers will take that and say he can destroy a planet with the force then, and that is not what it means. If he was able to then there would be no need for the Death Star if he could. The powerscaling is just getting way out of hand and just take statements at face value and not actually analyzing it by comparing to what we actually see in the manga and anime.
I love how Noodles takes the time in a juubito video to lowball Minato below Tobirama. Clyde if you see this do you actually agree with him on that stuff? Also I would love if you explained the Gin clapping scene in a video. So far, I haven't seen you debunk it and I'm not sure how you would do it.
MAJOR EDIT: Hello everyone, so as I'm sure most of you know, there were some scans shown in my Ulquiorra vs Juubito video that I've now since removed entirely, using the RUclips editor. These scans were in reference to a "conversation" with a writer for BLEACH movie: Hell Verse, and how it was discussed between said writer and Tite Kubo that there were a few questions we had, which were confirmed by her/him during the production of the movie. - My researcher actually provided me with incorrect statements/screenshots, even though I specified to them (I have screenshots of this) to double check if it was the real account. Before this, I had zero reason to assume they would ever send me faulty information, as they've been extremely reliable in the past. I've been scaling BLEACH since 2014, and take pride in how much this series means to me. This is my first major error that I've ever made, and I am deeply sorry to you BLEACH fans out there who take my word as being accurate or reliable. In the future, I promise to never make a mistake like this again, and I am immensely sorry for this situation. It's 100% my fault for not looking more into this, myself.
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Stop the cap lol u on fraudwatch lol
You should also apologize to the Naruto fans not just the bleach fans Just shows how much you only care about one and not the other you’re emitting bias all over not going to lie🤷🏾♂️
the opera gx plug is crazy
@@ClydeRUclipsr and you say spiritual light is light speed without any proof 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@yahwo2099😭😭😭😭
Ok, but who had the most depression?
Lmao straight up
Ngl that’s hard asf 😭
Ulquiorra was BORN depressed, Obito just became depressed, that's a huge difference. Actually, being depressed was such a fundamental part of Ulquiorra that the moment he felt anything other than sadness or indiference for more than a second the dude literally BECAME DUST. Obito has no chance in this match, he even saw the light before dying.
@@bigbangrafa8435 Obito merely adopted the depression... Ulquiorra was born in it, molded by it!
@@zackpersonal basically
Neither would win. They'd just sit down cutting themselves and listening to "insert emo band here" talking about how empty they feel inside.
😭 horrendous
"wake me up inside"
Breaking Benjamin vs Three Days Grace
My chemical romance
"Last Resort"
Swag in the meanwhile: "... so Madara"
gosh, where is that guy?
Madara my king
i swear that joke wasnt funny years ago already
@@sinoxilurk4126🫵🏻 found negativity
Swag just disappeared
Both of them got that drip going on
Straight up
For real no doubt.
When clyde introduced the guest appearance as the "CEO OF KAKAZU",
I Knew there was nobody else he could be talking about Besides Noodles!
lmao
💯
Is he the "raw durability" guy? Lol
@@aaronlainez6191nah that was parrot
@@erosSZNfirst person I’ve seen that makes the distinction
Can’t understand how Ulqiorra could be just as fast or even slower than light on a lowball, especially when you confirm a cero is light speed.
If cero is at least light speed because they’re all light based, you’re scaling menos grande cero to light speed. Surely this gives any Espada a scaling waaaaay above light speed if you want to say an espada can dodge a menos grande’s cero.
ikr idk why lighting speed was a apart of the lowball when it's not a lowball
Yeah, I'm guessing people could try and say cero are all the same speed but there are statements saying different cero move at different speeds. And either way it's common sense that a menos grande is slower than an espada cero or else cero is literally useless to an espada.
They can launch a Bala which is 20x the speed of a cero😮
@@FortunateNonhlanhla-r6rGin is slower than mach 500 so how would a cero be lightspeed when ichigo struggled against gin ?
@@powerscallingfiend gins bankai is not mach 500, if u read the data book it describes the speed of the bankai as 500x the speed of gins hand clap, NOT the sound of the clap
27:20
Wait.. so its over? IT'S FINALLY OVER! The dumb debate on cero's not being SoL due to being "spiritual light" (even though EVERYTHING in bleach has a soul due to how fullbring powers work) is finally over...
The debate is dumb but no. This is not a credible source. Private DMs that anyone can fake is not reliable, we need a public statement on it. People have been pointing out that the Japanese is wrong.
If we based on Science, Cero would be SoL, becuz its light and doesnt have a mass, what makes light SoL? It not having a mass right? So it means based Cero would be SoL and can be faster.
You don't need an apostraphe on ceros*. It's plural, not possesive.
They were faster than light even before that
@@patrickmorin752 update: Matsubara Makoto just posted on twitter confirming she never answered fan questions about bleach. The screenshots were faked. Yeah, another bleach RUclipsr I lost respect for.
Imagine a rhino fighting a unicorn.
I'd wager the unicorn beats the rhino in sheer spiritual pressure - although the rhino has the upper hand in the taijutsu department. If we scale this up to grandiose dragon levels, a level 2 rhino would easily be beaten by a level 1 chakra infused KCM mode unicorn with a triple eternal Mangekyou sharingan and a borrowed Gear 5 Nika fruit.
How about Unicron?
@@baboin1851 solos both unicorn and rhino
@AsadKhan-ic9qi ok but what if 1 milliom loins will be helping
@@hunters266 then we have a debate on our hands
This is the greatest comment I have read in a while XD
"Doing tricks on it, twirling on it and spinning all over Ulquiorra" Is such a wild line I can't help but respect it 🤷♂️🤣
"Quantify how fast spiritual light actually f***in is" had me dying😂😂😂
“What is a heart?” -Ulquoirra
“Uh…” -Juubito
“Can I have yours?” -Ulquoirra
*”AYO CHILL!”* -Juubito
“You’re looking real cute right now as the humans say.” -Ulquoirra
Dafuq is this roleplay brother 😭😭🙏🏻
You ruined it 😂
Who starts a conversation like that I just sat down
🤡
May just be Persona pilled, but I read Ulquiorra’ lines there as Aigis’
What I don’t get is why when it comes to bleach the argument is “it’s spiritual light” but any other anime like Naruto it’s never chakra light 😂 like why does it only matter what the light is made of when we’re talking about bleach?!?!?! Light attacks in Naruto aren’t actual(natural) light , same for dbz and every other anime for the most part
Bcus people are petty and have a hatred for Bleach.
I was literally in a debate with someone who tried using that as an excuse and all he could do was reiterate the same thing over and over again bcus I caught him in a situation that made him look stupid. He tried to say it's not real light yet I gave numerous examples of other Shinigami using elemental attacks like fire, Ice, wind and even non-elemental attacks like shadows (shunsui) and they're taken as literally what they are but you mean to tell me light attacks that were never stated to not actually be light shouldn't be taken as light...made him look extra slow
The funny thing is that ninjutsu that use nature change chakra being different than its natural counterpart is an actual plot point in Naruto that's brought up several times, such as during Sasuke's battle with Itachi and Might Guy vs Kisame
@@corruptangel6793 didn't Boruto also think what's his name was gonna absorb the flames but Kawaki told him that it was impossible bcus those flames weren't made with Chakra?
@@kaimobley5324 I haven't read/watched Boruto, so I don't know, but it wouldn't suprise me as that's one of the things that happened during the Might Guy and Kisame fight.
@kaimobley5324 I literally have that argument with someone here. Are we talking about the same person? Because he sounds like him 😂😂
What would we call this duo? The Depresso Duo?
Depresso expresso
😂👌
Im counting down the days for the Yamamoto video to come out🤣
I promise it’s coming 😭
@ClydeRUclipsr Bro, we need a Ichigo, Aizen, Zaraki power/tier/comparison video.
There are seriously plenty of people that think Zaraki is on Ts Ichigo and Aizen lvl.
Also I'd like to ask you something.
How close do you think Adult Tosh, Zaraki, Byakuya, and Shunsui scale eos (tybw).
I think they are fairly close.
1. Adult Tosh allaround and def best hax
2. Shunsui second best hax
3. Zaraki powerwise above Shunsui but loses because of Shunsuis hax
4. Byakuya
People always make Zaraki like he one shots them all. I had many debates because of that.
I think there needs to be a video how close they actually are
I mean there haxs straight up
beat his strength,we literally know his bankai does more damage to himself than to some top tier characters.@@muchoyurdem5260
@@muchoyurdem5260CFYOW confirms Zaraki is on Ichigos level
@redred1952 No, it doesn't. Stop making up lies. Literally 99% of yall who claim this nonsense never once even read a single chapter from that novel.
Nowhere in any volume, chapter, or page does it state anywhere that "Zaraki is on Ichigos lvl"
And a statement that Zaraki is able to beat someone that Ichigo is able to do doesn't mean that Zaraki is on Ichigos lvl. Hisagi literally beat Hikone does that make him Ichigo lvl? By far not!!!
Both Renji and Zaraki are able to beat Mask the Masculine, does that make Renji Zaraki lvl? Clearly not!!!
We/you don't just make up your own interpretations.
Hikone nor Ikomikidomoe are even close to Soul King Yhwach lvl
0 discussion needed on if Bleach scales beyond light. Literally Cero & Bala both exist as attacks of light and 1 is verbatim multitudes faster than the other.
10:55
THANK YOU. Swear people will say that and use it downplay feats but then can never actually tell you how fast it is or why it’s slower than actual light.
Ayy nice Noctis Pic and name
They don't need to tell you how fast it is, it's up to the person trying to use it as a feat to determine that. To ask them to prove the opposite is an appeal to ignorance.
@@Gordon-cj3ndthis doesnt make sense btw
@@noanswer531 Prove it doesn't make sense.
@Gordon-cj3nd But nothing contradicts the light speed statements though.
It’s crazy that 2014 was a decade ago
Legit was looking for a video on Bleach as I was itching for my fixing and you saved the day, W Clyde lol
WAITED FOR THIS. 🎉❤
Ooooh dat looks GOOD
For every like I get, I will do one push up with my bleach and naruto manga on my back
Dont skip out
@@faith4657Did 12 so far I wanna get at least a decent work out so hopefully at least fifty
@@CirBam24 I'm be supporting you.
Enjoy, brother.
Day 1 of me doing pushups (60 for now) is on my channel
Edit: Ill do the remainders tmw
Ulquiorra: What is a heart
Obito: I don't know bro, my friend ripped mine out
😂
Kakuzu beats both because raw durability
And 5 hearts, that definitely beats Ichigo's 1. Case closed.
The one who was born depressed vs the one who became depressed… who wins?
Great video Clyde and noodles!
I can’t say it enough, man. Nothing beats that early 2000s anime edge. The style and the grittiness is still immaculate to this day. Ulquiorra will always have that drip no matter what form he takes 👌
these two are the typa people that would make the therapist cry if they're put in a room with one
I told y'all it was fake. I posted a comment here the other day and he ignored it. You and Jaymes Hanson are a stain on the bleach fandom.
We're getting clowned in Twitter now
35:05 excuse me, did you just say that Ulquiorra is stronger than TYBW Shunsui and Adult Toshiro? I mean, I like Ulquiorra but that is just ridiculous.
He should be relative if we go by urahara scaling
Don't bother , i'm sure clyde think ulquiorra would one shot Aizen and Yhwach at that point.
@bobby31723 he wouldnt...
The adult Toshiro part made me laugh. 😂. No way is any espada touching adult Toshiro.
@rayvonvelez3129 maybe not beat but the fact that urahara dkesmt really train but went from not only getting shikai attacks deflected by base hyper casual ulquiorra rhen going on to figjt askin who should be relative in holy form to senjumaru. I mean not only that. But kisuke went from not being able to sence aizens power to being able to sense his power as he's fighting yuha but not fully. Implying through bleqch zenkais he got stronger after fighting amd losing to kararakura aizen in his silver surfer mode
another w video as always
You’re a W
Random thing but could a zanpakuto wake a shinigami out of genjutsu like how tailed beasts can do with they're jinchurikis?
Saving my thought on that for Itachi vs Byakuya
@@ClydeRUclipsr thank you and I look forward to it, you are one of the main people who got me into scaling.
@@ClydeRUclipsrInteresting, even though a note; even if that could happen, it would still make Byakuya susceptible to genjutsu, just how Sasuke got Killer Bee under genjutsu for a moment. I know it was just for a moment since Hachibi awake him, but still that moment can decide a fight, if Sasuke would have finished him quickly when he was on the floor unconscious.
@@xlRyuseibyakuya resist to pepe total charm > genjutsu
-Doesn't work on the Edo tensei, and will work even less on a shinigami who's completely dead.
-genjutsu need chakra the fact it requires your foe to have chakra coils (a biological feature exclusive to the naruto verse because of chakra being introduced to them)
-shinigami can easily negate with reiatsu or break out
-zanpakuto souls
@@sadyss-_-1885Byakuya also outscales Itachi
Obito has better regen, I think. Ulquiorra regen is more limited, so even if both are stat-equalized, Obito has a wider arsenal and better regen to keep going.
Both are my favorite of each verse.
W Video as always.
Maybe, but if you compare speed itself, I don't know how Obito is competing with ulquiorra's speed. If Menos at the very start of the series, where even ichigo is able to react to their light-speed attacks with his fat zanpakto....to Ulquiorra, not even in segunda, is able to completely speed blitz a much much stronger ichigo, to the point where he wasn't even able to comprehend the attack because it was so fast...I know the war arc in naruto gave a bunch of it's characters crack but like....I don't think Naruto verse atp really has any comparable to speed feats to that.
@@iferan4166
I mean if KCM naruto and base minato make light speed raikage look like a joke and they are getting blitz by juubito then I guess you make and argument to him being that fast but idk if it is enough based on what we see from the goat espada himself
@@m.c4847 Minato teleports, that's not technically speed. Also, what speed feats does Naruto have KCM naruto have besides taking a few tries to out speed the guy who uses LIGHTNING armor. To be fair, Madara uses a light based attack later on in the fight and six paths buffed Naruto manages to dodge it narrowly, but like I said that was later...when he was buffed from the sage of the six paths. And again, a Bala would be 20x speed of light....and people in the verse react to and dodge those so...
In terms of attacking power, during the war arc it's a little ambiguous, I mean, we see them blow up mountains and summon meteors, not specifically from Jubito but from people who he should at the very least scale to.
The only part you could really give it to Jubito imo, is his various hax. Genjutsu is a bit iffy, since it kind of depends on how you argue naruto vs bleach as a whole. If you want to do the cross verse thing where chakra=spiritual energy, you also have aizen's statement on higher spiritual energy neggs hax from someone with weaker spiritual energy.
There's also his intangibility, but he has to choose between attacking and remaining intangible, and ulquiorra as I previously talked about, is very much likely, faster than Jubito, by a lot if we go by feats.
Just looking at what each of them have for feats, I mean, jubito does have hax, but like I said those hax have noticeable counters. So It's kind of hard not to just give it to Ulq.
@@m.c4847espada can use a Bala which is 20x the speed of a cero
@@iferan4166
I’ll admit it’s a bit of a stretch but there is still an argument to be made. Raikage having lightning armor is not some sort of anti feat lightning based jutsu are usually way faster than natural lightning. But anyway minato doesnt just teleport he thinks reacts and attacks faster than light speed raikage can before he even has kyubi chakra. Naruto outspeeds raikage then gets another buff which is kcm2 and rinnegan obito was still faster before absorbing the 10 tails which by itself is already well over light speed because it scales above 9 tails
19:42 thats not chakra, thats sage energy. You combine sage enegery with chakra to get sage chakra. Chakra isnt mentioned a single time when talking about the vastness of 10 tails
Exactly and tentails alone is small planetary
Kubo stated that he wanted to make white and ulquiorra fight a bit more equal he stated the hellverse movie was a glimpse of what he wanted to do. In the show the fight was a 60/40. But in reality, it should have been a 55/45 fight. All i can say is plot weakened my boy ulquiorra. Because the staff wanted to push the ichigo vs. aizen, so they limited the fight.
Praying clyde isn’t going to be biased this time around
This level of dedication and depth to the craft deserves applause, and more importantly a like and comment.
I’m dropping a comment for that itachi vs byakuya video
Rumors is Kubo came out to say that Ceros are Light Speed
It not rumors now
@@FortunateNonhlanhla-r6rI mean i personally am not doubting Clyde but he still has to prove that the statement actually came from the director otherwise we can't really use it in a debate/argument as evidence
@@FortunateNonhlanhla-r6rthats not light speed clown 🤡🤡🤡
...so your saying its only sound or lighting speed?
@BK12355 No, hes saying silence and thunder speed
W Naruto vs Bleach vid
bro 3:59 💀
This is an interesting fight that I haven't heard anybody talk about before.
Clyde its been too long. I miss watching your videos, especially the power scaling ones. Watching or reading any new anime or manga? It was cool hearing you talk about chainsaw man and scary Makima was. Of course my favorites are the bleach ones but always love watching your anime vids in general.
Ulquiorra's 2nd release could indeed be stronger than Shunsui and Staark but I doubt it scales to old man Yama because base Aizen sealed Yama Zanpakuto via WW instead of trying to tangle with Shikai Yama. And even after it was still unclear if Aizen could beat Yama without any weapons
Only chance Juubito would have is a Genjustu which we have no idea how well would work on Bleach characters, the closest thing to a Genjtsu we have in Bleach is As Nodt's shrift The Fear but that is fundamentally different function. Still I think Segunda Release Ulq would overwhelm Juubito in speed and power and get the W.
I think that Aizen sealed Yama's Zanpakuto because of the AOE. I mean even though he used kyoka suigetsu if old man Yama could use his flames on the entire FKT it would be pointless to make ilusions. But that's just my thought proccess
Also Ulqiorra felt a lot more treathing than some of the top tier sternritters up until now. He has the raw strenght to fight some of them but doesn't have the hax. Like try giving any schrift to Ulq and watch him dogwalk most of the verse
Ulquiorra negs just by flexing his spiritual pressure.
Juubito negs just by flexing his chakra pressure.
@@Burn_FiElD Hanataro victim 🥱
@@Burn_FiElD ulquiorra would crush his soul
@@grieverleonhart2630 Ahh yeah Trenton victim would do shi-
Did u not watch the video, or is this just rage bait
This was absolutely GOATed. Thanks for an awesome vid
I agree with everything been said but why is it assumed gen jutsu would work on bleach characters? Also getting an official light speed statement from Mr kubo is insane 😂 I respect the dedication
@@chriscolombie4135 well in the Itachi Novels it's made clear anyone with an MS can put someone without chakra under Genjutsu however Juubito can't use his MS abilities which would shut down the possibility. So it would only work in Verse Equalization
@@kaimobley5324 Bleach characters negate genjutsu through spiritual pressure.
it is also stated that they can only be affected by astral weapons and abilities.
I know this already, I was just explaining Juubito can't use MS abilities
@@kaimobley5324 I was talking about verse equalization, your last sentence.
@@kaimobley5324Tf u lying about, he can use his MS Abbilities. He can only not use Kamui anymore..
Why tf would he keep his MS if he cant use it.💀
"We were discussing a Byakuya vs Itachi fight"
What did Itachi do to deserve an execution?
Killing his clan
obito's taking the dub. that 10 tails power is just in a different realm of power. the only thing i can see keeping ulquiorra in the fight is his regeneration. i also don't think he has the arsenal to apply real damage to obito.
Juubito negates regeneration tho. That's one thing I think they didn't show in the video, but when Juubito ripped Minato's arm off, it never grew back up, we even see the dude's spirit leave the Edo Tensei and he's missing his arms as a spirit, so Juubito's attacks, especially with the Truth Seeking Orbs, would absolutely negate Ulquiorra's regen.
@TheScarletWing2490
Juubito doesn't negate regeneration, he negates ninjutsu. Minato couldn't regenerate because he was an Edo.
@Demi_Arts Then why was his spirit missing the arms, when Hagaromo undid the Edo Tensei to send him to the afterlife. His actual ghost is missing the arms, bro is armless for all eternity now
@@TheScarletWing2490
The part of the jutsu that his arms were bonded to were negated, that part of his soul is in the afterlife.
Could you make a vid that goes in detail to validate those scans in 27:18, A lot of people don't believe those scans are real so it would really help to completely cement the argument that ceros are light speed if you could make a vid with evidence of those scans being real.
We definitely want more collaborations with you and Noodles, I don't think I would have found him if it weren't for this video. Thank you both.
Bleach scaling from the hueco mundo arc to tybw seems weird. Like the story makes it seem like destroy Los Noches (basically a country) is a big thing, yet in tybw its shown that gremmy can just casually create space (yes he created it and didn’t just open a portal to space, its said in cfyow that he created/manifested outer space, not a portal to it, you can simply search it up). Unless you take Shinji's "affecting the WotL" statement as him referring to the dimension and not the earth but it seems weird to do that.
Thats like saying DBZ scaling is weird cuz they go from planetary to solar-system level from Saiyan to Buu saga.
They were always that strong, the series just doesn't showcase plenty of destructive feats
That’s because los noches isn’t only country sized. It’s a pocket dimension created by the hogyoku. It literally has its own sun within it. Which would line up because in cfyow I believe, Shinji stated that grimmjow could basically blast away the sun with a gran ray cero. Hence why it’s not allowed to be used within los noches. The gap still is large between tybw and hueco mundo arc, but not as big as you make it seem.
Gremmy ability was a hax ability, he doesn't have some universal level of power, the most direct destructive thing he did was the meteor which I will say was impressive since it was going to destroy the seireitei and probable a majority of both sternritter and shinigami
How is that weird? Scale means nothing when creating spacial and dimensional constructs like that.
Love the video and can't wait for more from you and noodles! Glad you have someone to colab with and I'll be sure to go to noodles Chanel after this
OISASHIBURI CLYDOO-SAN !!
I am pretty new here (subbed within the last few weeks). I haven't subbed to noodles yet but with how awesome this video is I definitely will.😁
You guys are great I would love to see more from both of you.😊
Have a great day everyone 😜
2:58 the kangaroo devil!
I really enjoyed the video, and I'm glad you covered this topic because this was a versus battle I always thought would've been interesting due to the similarities within their characters in philosophy as well as serving as the second to a primary antagonist in the form of Aizen and Madara. Based on what was said about Ulquiorra, im curious how far he could've gone against the royal guard and how absolutely terrifying he would've been if he lived and trained. I'm looking forward to your next video.
The Twitter screenshot is so suspect bruh, like is there anyway you can provide proof of legitimacy
My gut tells me it's real, but that crop looks horrible, anyone slightly skeptical will not accept that without some C.C.
@@masonrockwood7732 yeah I’m a big Bleach supporter, lowkey argue ceros are light speed anyway, but man a clipped screenshot is so suspect
You were to suspect it holy shit lol. What a disappointment
Another GOATED video from the best powerscaler!
This guy used a fake scan 🤣🤣🤣
Was it his fault? No. Ulq still stomps. All it impacted was his speed
@@debateisaac15 bruh deidara alone slams the espada
@@CosmicAizen616Hell no bruh
@@CosmicAizen616 Deidra isn’t High Universal
@@debateisaac15 neither is ulquiorra
Honestly I don't even seeing them fighting each other more like a debate on what is a heart and can you truly call a world with out suffering peace or just an illusion because you cant handle the reality of misery.
I need more Naruto v Bleach Vids. Even if the Naruto Character doesnt win the fact I trust these two to scale them correctly is what matters to me. Naruto characters are imo always downplayed and get knocked down to just being mountaain level when they are so much stronger.
Dog Sasuke has dimensional powers 💀
Who’s considered mountain level in Naruto?
@@WSTCOASTDMN bro THATS WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYIN!
@@RcdevilDX for reals, these people don’t understand that there’s characters in Naruto that travel from planet to planet eating them up like candy
@@WSTCOASTDMN like bro how are you acting like half these guys arent planetary plus. Lets also not forget the ridiculus amount of hacks!
@@RcdevilDX and they ASSUME that ulq would have stronger spiritual pressure than juubito if chakra = spiritual pressure
to be fair, in the early episodes of bleach, when Uryu was still using a bow id be more enclined to say that his projectiles could be moving anywhere between sound or light speed, the minimum because of the bow itself and max because its shooting light. but there is no real way to tell but most likely it is light speed even tho it would be odd for something to scale that high being so close to the start of the series. but the ones he fired at Ulquiorra should be FTL without question because that's what alot of the feats in that part are or have passed by that point of the series. the problem is for something to be FTL you shouldn't even be able to see light emitting from the projectile because it's traveling faster then the light itself so the light shouldn't be able to keep up with projectile. I'd like to point out that helicopters when doing night operations use tracer rounds you see the rounds light up but it doesn't make the bullets light speed or anything close to it.
Sound and light are very very very very very different speeds my friend. Go and google them 😭
I"d say Juubito wins W more times than not, Noodles left other statements out luv the vid tho
Yeah
But where you scale both characters
Yeah noodles didn't even touch on the sword of nunoboko that Juubito has in his arsenal
@@Crimson19977I did mention it and said it could destroy the world lol
@@noodlesyoutuber must've missed it. My bad, bro
11:15 it’s also worth noting that when Candace’s lightning arrows were being described in canon CFYOW, they were stated to be slower than actual lightning, meanwhile her lightning strike power was stated to surpass natural lightning.
Not that this necessarily means anything, but I feel like a similar statement would exist somewhere for Cero’s if they were actually slower or faster than lightspeed. Unless mentioned otherwise, it’s quite reasonable to assume they’re the same speed.
And on that topic, I always felt the Gin debunk was dumb.
#1: It’s just ONE outlier anti feat.
#2: Mach 1000 is very fast TRAVEL speed for a blade that can move 14km. Travel speed and combat speed are different.
#3: Ichigo actually had no trouble reacting to it’s extensions in the manga, it was more how fast Gin could MOVE the blade with his wrists that was troubling him. Naturally Gin’s swing speed would be similar to his combat speed which would scale above other characters who are already in the FTL range.
#4: This is Gin we’re talking about.. c’mon he lies about everything.
27:10 yeah, we're gonna need a lot more than just a screenshot of a twitter DM. These things can be faked.
Edit: Turns out it was indeed fake.
Its not like naruto databooks naruto fans are the one in big 3 who uses fake mistranslation scans not other fanbase
Cero are not light speed clown ; would make no sense ; one of the faster shinigami only move to mach 500 🤣@@Manuel-gt9jf
@@TheB3-d4n all 3 fanbases do it honestly.
@@mazeluchi9508 where was this stated?
@@TheB3-d4n what were you saying??
Only Naruto fans do it right? 😂
heres one thing i wonder, shouldnt amaterasu technically be considered light speed, if its aimed by eye contact and the speed of eye contact is the speed it takes light to travel from the object to ur eyes, which makes the speed of the attack the speed of light. ik that would mean that the bottleneck is the speed in which eyes can twitch but the speed of the attack from the moment u make eye contact is the speed of light, right?
Clyde explain urself ? u made the hole bleach fandom looks like fruads bcz of ur fake scan , ngl take a break from power scaling , faking scans esp being apart of the "chillest fanbase" just dissapoints me
True
i dont understand, can you elaborate
@@mohamedalaa8643 AFAIK mangas get their pages scanned (basically take a picture of the page) so you can post them digitally
I havent watched the video but im guessing that some of the text wasnt correct
@@Gamer-qr8ee nah bro literally just used a fake screenshot of a Convo with a writer of the light novels
The Goat has posted a video at last,just before cour 3 too 👀
🔥🔥🔥
Nevermind didn't see the Nobara one 😂😂😂
0:16 but he cant beat Ash Ketchum and his Pokémon
Awesome video, Clyde and Noodles! A Byakuya vs Itachi video would be BADASS!
Yes, indeed it would!
Yep the screenshot was fake.. juubito stomps as he always did
The SS of the speed feat doesn’t make obito win LOL. Ulq still stomps. Nobody in Naruto is touching anyone in bleach
@@debateisaac15 mf give me 1 just 1 feat that puts ulq above juubito without using hellverse
@BennBeckman0 3 hours have passed and he still hasn't answered ur question 😢
@@gokusolos3621 it’s because he can’t, not to say ulquiorra isnt impressive in fact he beats any member of the akatsuki but juubito is out his league
@@BennBeckman0 agreed
This is an interesting video but I think you should do a video on Senjumaru or Jugram at some point. They are honestly really cool characters. Hope that Yamamoto video comes out within the next year or so though.
Is there even enough scaling for Jugram to make a video longer than 5 minutes?
Sorry but that screenshot of the DMS between your friend and Matsubara can be easily faked, some people have pointed out that the Japanese text is wrong. Are you sure you can trust your source?
@@TheShahkulu yeah that was a pretty ridiculous lack of due diligence.
Another Clyde banger I see 🤝🤝
People need to understand that the scans weren’t purposely fake and that it wasn’t Clyde’s fault. This doesn’t change the fact that Ulq scales above the ENTIRE Naruto verse and would win.
Yo clyde you need to check on the recent klub outside QnA answer kubo gave on stark. A rescaling video would be cool
Ulquiorra stomps
Maybe they could make each other happy instead.
What's with people thinking Laser Circus is light speed? Laser Circus is lightning that can move like water. Lightning can normally only move straight, the purpose of Laser Circus is to be able to turn and freely move like "water", hence the storm release.
Just because sage art Light Fang is actually light, doesn't make every storm release technique light speed.
It makes no narrative sense for Darui to have attacks as fast as the raikage.
It also makes no narrative sense for light fang to "just" be light speed
It’s not lightning, it’s lightning and water release mixed together to form storm release. it’s also directly stated to be light rays and lasers. (Lasers are also light beams) the 2 jutsu’s that are storm release are laser circus and lightfang both of which are lightspeed
Trying to figure out why they kept mentioning Soul Palace and Yhwach saga characters. Ulquiorra peaked below that level/selection of characters.
so no one's gonna about the sword of nunoboko that gives form of obito's desire ???
Anything Gremmy imagines happens, didn't help him beat Kenpachi.
@@HOLDENPOPE gremmy ? The fodders that imagine guns ; and randoms meteor ? Obito negg this fodder .
Fr. Juubito stated that it was used by sage of six paths "to create this world"
Probably, after Hagoromo's and Hamura's battle against Kaguya the world was destroyed, so hagoromo used the sword of nunoboko to re-create or re-shape the world. OP sword
@@Crimson19977no the planet wasn't destroyed as shown in the anime
@@mazeluchi9508 gremmy's power is not fodder his mind is
should a smarter character got the visionary even the almighty would not be able to match it's strength
I finally finished bleach, now I can watch this video with no fear of spoilers!
26:45 and 27:13 these seem like very useful statements, is there proof that they're real? obviously i trust u not to just make sum shit up but for the sake of using them in debates and stuff, seems like the cero one especially would clear up a lot of annoying downplay
Exactly, he needs to validate those scans before it can be accepted, because it can be deemed fake without validation.
@@victorijeomah7545 its Fake lol ; one of the fastest capitain have 500 Time thé speed of sound ... This enough debunk the light speed from espada .
@@mazeluchi9508 It isn't enough to debunk shit, plus Ichigo dodged it gin had to use his own speed to gain on Ichigo. I did hear he is going to make a live video addressing it so imma wait til that video drop before i can give my conclusion.
@@victorijeomah7545 debunk what ? A youtuber thinking he is bleach author ? Ok little kid ; Sasuke kid is light speed then ; scall haku who IS stated light speed in one databook ✌🏼
@@victorijeomah7545 gin > espada troll .
Awesome video man
👇Under 10 minute gang
Its ignored that hollows are amped by being in hueco mundo so some ulquiorra feats are kinda iffy, but if juubito and ulquiorra were fighting in hueco mundo than all of this is pretty true
Wait soooo clyde....is CFYOW Grimmjow still stronger than ulquiorra?
Great videos guys! I think Juubito wins high dif but hearing the new bleach scaling you mention makes it a lot closer than I thought
Ulq is the most underrated Espada. People still debate who is strongest among them. Ulq no diff start or Barra.
Facts
There are 3 espadas that are stronger than me-ullqiora his fans he smoke everyone shutup you clowns
Bleach scales far higher. Mismatch.
Nice man. See you next year
Straight up underrated powerhouse, so much immense potential that rivals Yamamoto, especially against high-tier fighters while holding back. Byakuya and Itachi are iconic characters, each possessing unique abilities and philosophies. Byakuya’s mastery of kido and his elegant fighting style contrast sharply with Itachi’s cunning strategy and powerful Sharingan. Their contrasting traits highlight the complexity of their abilities and the narratives they represent in their worlds.
Great video, I love it.
Nothing better than a Clyde notification🔥
wild matchup. welcome back
The difference with 'light' is that magic glowy stuff is often just called light, with no implication for speed. Like the arrows of light are still arrows of light when they're sitting still.
Exactly lol they’re not light speed, people just over glazing
@@Keepitchill420 I guess a bullet is not as fast as a bullet should be because its not fired.
By that same logic, Naruto has no Light speed feat. The Laser Madara spit was just chakra spit.
@@khulmach9662 the arrows Uryu shoot aren’t light speed because we see the actual projectiles move in real time, same with every other attack, it’s like claiming Jedi have light speed reactions because they can deflect blaster bolts. Blaster bolts look like light, does that make them light speed? No, they’re just lasers. Also, everything about the light speed claim can easily be dismantled by when the characters actually move, if Ichigo has FTL reactions why was he struggling with Gin’s bankai? Mach 1000 isn’t even light speed.
@@khulmach9662 difference is that light can't be held still. Light is one speed, always, no matter what, the ways to 'slow it' are just making it not be light for a moment, so the speed mandate isn't there.
More important tho is narrative weight. masks lasers are clearly displayed as actual light and given emphasis. Light speed is a commonly known thing that carries weight. The idea that an author introduced it with no hints until a data book that he probably only tangentially had any involvement with and wouldn't expect the audience to interact with, is ridiculous
@@Mystravian Multiple stories have Light attacks that move at the speed of light while being capable of being stopped because they have a specific shape.
Really love that Ulquiorra segment, I had no idea you could get him close to Yamma through the movie statements
Obiton win normally
The video i didn't know i needed.
I feel like this needs to be stated again because the whole lightspeed feats get really out of hand and really wanky, especially in Naruto. Everyone mentions Dairu's light based attack but... When him, Gaara, Temari and even Kankuro attacked Sasuke at once everyone elses attacks where moving alongside the 'light' based attack. Therefore... that attack is NOT lightspeed. If you want something to be lightspeed than it needs to have light speed effects... and what I mean by that is that if Gaara's sand is moving at lightspeed it would impact differently... like No one is ever going to convince me that the Flamethrower from the Sasori puppet is shooting at lightspeed.
Also, if characters were really moving at lightspeed there wouldn't be such a long travel scene and yet for some reason something so simple eludes these 'powerscalers' If Naruto characters really could move at lightspeed they would be jumping from fucking Trees... I mean why are you jumping from tree to tree when you move at the speed of light...? Minato is famous for his speed.. because he has a teleportation feat... like so what if he can instantly vanish and appear somewhere else... you can move at lightspeed... if they could move at the speed of light there would have been no need for those Jonin to use the flying raijin to get the Mizukage to the battlefield.. the time they spent locking their arms around her she could have been there already. If you can move at light speed you can move around the planet 7x in a single second dude... you people OBVIOUSLY don't even comprehend just how fast that is... you just see something that looks like like and just assume.
Ok so I just wanna say that characters having long travel scenes is purely for dramatic effect. I mean, would you find it fun to see people just move from one place to another instantly all the time? Well I wouldn't but if you would thats your preference ig. (Also just so you know, I'm not here to argue about Naruto characters' speeds since I havent even watched it yet lol)
@@argusvoidstar4177 I am not a huge comic nerd but they do it all the time in DC/Marvel. It would be less entertaining... sure but that doesn't change the fact that if they were lightspeed, they wouldn't have to travel like they do... and I am just pointing out how insane it is that people actually believe Naruto characters are just casually lightspeed..
@@ChaoticHereticdarui light IS not light speed ; and espadas light IS not light speed neither 🤦🏻♀️
Yeah Im getting sick and tired of powerscalers taking scans and statements too seriously. For example, Darth Vader says that the Death Star is nothing compared to the power of the Dark Side( or he said the Force, whatever), so powerscalers will take that and say he can destroy a planet with the force then, and that is not what it means. If he was able to then there would be no need for the Death Star if he could. The powerscaling is just getting way out of hand and just take statements at face value and not actually analyzing it by comparing to what we actually see in the manga and anime.
@@mazeluchi9508 naruto fans are insane when it comes to spreading misinformation
As a Bleach fan, I'm glad this wasn't an Ulquiorra vs. Kakazu discussion. I don't need that sadness in my life rn.
I love how Noodles takes the time in a juubito video to lowball Minato below Tobirama. Clyde if you see this do you actually agree with him on that stuff? Also I would love if you explained the Gin clapping scene in a video. So far, I haven't seen you debunk it and I'm not sure how you would do it.