It was incredible living through the 90s as a computer nerd and seeing how quickly technology advanced -- from lowly 16-33 MHz PCs up to the first GHz processor (okay that was technically in 2000). It's impressive that a system like this was able to be upgraded from what we might term a G1 PowerPC to a G3 with minimal changes.
I wasn't thrilled with the performance of the PPC601. The PPC 604 on my 9500 in bi-processor 200 Mhz offered serious performance. My dream was to have a quad-processor Daystar station. Unfortunately for me, it was impossible to find in France. When I saw the first BeOS demo, it was like magic for me. I bought the BeBox as soon as it came out. I even had the honor of receiving the system CD from Jean Louis Gassé himself.
Bryce 3D was the first 3D software I used for 3D work and I ran it on a 500Mhz Celeron with 64MB of ram and a 32MB TNT2 Pro Ultra. Then I upgrade to Lightwave 3D then 3DSM/Maya etc. Though Bryce will always have a spot in m heart
That thing is so cool. You could put a Voodoo II in there. There's an ancient LGR video where he used some special OS 8 extensions to get a PC-flashed Voodoo II to run Quake flawlessly on a Performa 6400.
Bryce… that takes me back a couple of decades. Back in the day, I used Bryce (in addition to Raydream Designer, Strata Studio Pro, and Infini-D) as a tool for my client work when I was doing freelance graphic design. Imagine how long it took to render a 15-second animation in Strata Studio Pro on a 40MHz Mac IIfx of a 1024x768 flyby of a tradeshow booth design??? If you guessed more than a week, you are a winner!
I got my start in 3D modeling with 3D Studio 1.0 (DOS) and Bryce felt so very limited in comparison, BUT Bryce was EASY. You could have a Myst-level quality scene with very little work.
It’s so nice to see Bryce and be reminded of how lucky we were back in the day to have such cool creative tools. I still run Bryce in SheepShaver or QEMU sometimes, since there’s just nothing like it in the modern era. Bryce was the visual app that inspired me to start writing the musical app “FretPet” which was meant to be a tool for playfully exploring music in the way Bryce was a tool for playfully exploring 3D. In the days of skeuomorphic design we imagined every application would be built more like a game with a distinctive look. I can see why that was reined in, for practical reasons, but imagine how things could be if we had all thought like the developers of Bryce.
I'd love one of those G3 cards but they're nigh-on impossible to find here in the UK and are super expensive when they do show up. Didn't even know they existed back then!
I haven't had any sonnet cpu upgrades, but I was lucky to fix mag g3 tower 333mhz 1mb L2 cache. I had Micro Conversations 3dfx Game Wizard 12MB pci so I installed it too. Awesome 3D gameplay experience. Unreal and quake looks awesome
In my case, Quake came out when I was in elementary school, and was sort of a stretch for the PC my parents had the time (which otherwise ran Doom and similar pretty well). When I was in middle and high-school, tinkering around with the Doom and Quake source was also part of how I learned C. Kind of funny how computers changed a lot during my childhood (back in the time 486 PCs and similar), but by around the time I finished high-school, I got a PC with a 64-bit AMD CPU at around 2GHz or similar, and PC's haven't really changed quite as much since then (more RAM, more HDD, a little faster, etc; but nothing like it was...). Granted, we did lose of CRT's and 3.5" inch floppy drives since then (well, along with the DB25 parallel and DB9 serial ports). Meanwhile, a lot of the older computers (such as most of those from the 80s) would be almost unrecognizable if compared with a modern PC. But, yeah, still nice seeing your content...
Oh man, Bryce 3D! I had completely forgotten about that. It was REALLY fun to play around with. Great video, as always. I never owned a mac until the early 2000s (intel years), as my family and everry other family I knew were PC/Amiga folks, but those 90s macs are quite special!
I have the ST G4 1.4GHz in the G4 Cube. It runs pretty cool, but I had to modify the VRM and solder new MOSFETs on it, also changed their number from 6 to 8. I have also made a new VRM board, from a PicoPSU 80-WI-32. I can run the cube on 12V ::)))
@@MacintoshLibrarian Only one or two of the the versions that are on a PCI card work, and then you need an Amiga that has been modified to have a PCI bus board. So its got a very tiny user base. I suspect I need to recap my A4000 board, as the that card pulls a fair bit of power and its pulling the voltage rails down.
Pretty sure I used to have one of these PowerComputing models. It used to have a unique SadMac sound effect versus Apples own machines. If you triggered it by powering it on and quicly pressing the programmers inturrupt button it'd play a sound effect like a car's tires screeching and then the sound of an impact with glass breaking.
For what its worth with regards to Quake, software mode is actually better than the 3D accelerator mode, it was never fixed, but shadow effects look better in software rendering. 3d accelerating took it out for some reason, and ID Software never fixed it. So a lot of the atmosphere was removed.
also huge fan of you having played Tomb Raider on Sega Saturn, that was the same for me and my first introduction to Tomb Raider, and Resident Evil. I still have my Sega Saturn.
I have never been able to find one, but there is an early G4 that is pin compatible with the G3. It would be interesting to see what that would do. Also, that rendering software is new to me. I would like to see how you can make a movie out of it. Also, how did you put that spinning Mac in your video?
A video card with openGL and a TV tuner? Sounds like you're looking for (or already have) an ATI xclaim VR 128. A good choice for that computer, and you can even set a video input as your desktop background!
@@stephenoliveau lol, I still have all the old archived games n programs from back in those days scattered across a million free overwritten AOL floppies and probably on a handful of Zip drives.. ..along with all of the OneClick “Hell”s (proggies/scripts) that I would write or download from other folks..so we could annoy the non-MacWarez chats lol.. Good times 🤷♂️
How old are you if you don't mind me asking? I was 8 in 03. I didn't have my own computer until 08 and it had a pretty slow Pentium 4 (I think it was 3.0 GHz. I don't know what model, but later in 09 I had an Acer Veriton 2800 that my brother gave me (I think he might have stolen it, but I didn't realise that until a long time later.)) It also had a Pentium 4, but it was much better. It was one of the ones with SMT (hyperthreading) and I think it had a 2MB level 2 cache (also it was a 65nm lithography one and it ran at 3.4GHz, which of course isn't that much more than 3GHz but it was a lot faster. I think they must have made some decent improvements to the micro architecture.)
I guess I've never played Chex Quest 😅But that was just the first level of Doom's second episode, with Chex Quest textures instead of Doom ones. Is that normal??
I never understood why Apple never had a lot of games. If they did, I probably would have gotten a Mac. Instead I get to vicariously experience Macs instead.
LOL of course we all know you're more than capable of the same gymnastic feats as Lara Croft, but this video is about the Power Computing Power Center [sic] 132, so sadly it's not fitting to demonstrate. 🤣 Seriously though, that's a massive upgrade! You're going to have to put a sticker that says 500 over the 132 in the model number on the case. Bryce was a great demonstration on the difference in speed, but it would be awesome if you could figure out how to get Maccy textured so you can render him properly in 1990s cyberspace! I have no idea how Bryce works, but perhaps there's a newer version you could use as an intermediary to import your files and export to the older version?
I was curious what country of the world Macintosh Librarian is based in. I remember a lot of vintage Apple and Mac stuff as it was part of my childhood and I am a fan of your channel based in California, USA. I am not asking to invade your privacy or anything but I was just curious the general part of the world (country) you are based.
On behalf of those of us of a certain age, might I suggest "turn of the millennium" over "turn of the century" as a phrase. It makes us feel a little less ancient. 🙃
Gave up on the fruit company when jobs came back and smashed the idea of generic inexpensive hardware macs. Suxor with windoze for a while...then freed with GNU/Linux. I now question people's sanity in having any interest with said fruit company. Always overpriced and user hostile, and that hostility has increased over time. Try doing what you are doing to a "modern" mac. Not without very expensive PCB repair equipment.
![[Labs] Building a Clear Red Mac!](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/YNl4BYCv3zg/mqdefault.jpg)
It was incredible living through the 90s as a computer nerd and seeing how quickly technology advanced -- from lowly 16-33 MHz PCs up to the first GHz processor (okay that was technically in 2000). It's impressive that a system like this was able to be upgraded from what we might term a G1 PowerPC to a G3 with minimal changes.
I wasn't thrilled with the performance of the PPC601. The PPC 604 on my 9500 in bi-processor 200 Mhz offered serious performance. My dream was to have a quad-processor Daystar station. Unfortunately for me, it was impossible to find in France.
When I saw the first BeOS demo, it was like magic for me. I bought the BeBox as soon as it came out. I even had the honor of receiving the system CD from Jean Louis Gassé himself.
Sonnet really made some great stuff that extended the life of Macs. I miss the days of the G3, G4 and the Cube.
Your content is so informative and well put together! It’s always an absolute joy to watch. Thank you for all of your hard work!
Bryce 3D was the first 3D software I used for 3D work and I ran it on a 500Mhz Celeron with 64MB of ram and a 32MB TNT2 Pro Ultra. Then I upgrade to Lightwave 3D then 3DSM/Maya etc. Though Bryce will always have a spot in m heart
At the time, I was very much into Lightwave and loved Bryce's interface.
Other cool software included Pixar Typestry and Typestyler.
Thank you for another great video, it is so good to see the old retro tech. Quake and Tomb Raider are both from my youthful days too 😀
Glad you enjoyed it! and thank you sooo much for the Super Thanks!
That thing is so cool. You could put a Voodoo II in there. There's an ancient LGR video where he used some special OS 8 extensions to get a PC-flashed Voodoo II to run Quake flawlessly on a Performa 6400.
Oh my gosh, that skirt and belt combo in the second half of the video is impeccable 🤩
I love your channel so much. Thanks for creating such awesome content.
I had a friend down the street who let me play Descent and Quake on his PC back in the day, miss him so much
Wow-that was a GREAT performance boost! Thanks Ms. Fox for another great video! BTW: Twoee is ROCKING that hat!!
Bryce… that takes me back a couple of decades. Back in the day, I used Bryce (in addition to Raydream Designer, Strata Studio Pro, and Infini-D) as a tool for my client work when I was doing freelance graphic design. Imagine how long it took to render a 15-second animation in Strata Studio Pro on a 40MHz Mac IIfx of a 1024x768 flyby of a tradeshow booth design??? If you guessed more than a week, you are a winner!
I got my start in 3D modeling with 3D Studio 1.0 (DOS) and Bryce felt so very limited in comparison, BUT Bryce was EASY. You could have a Myst-level quality scene with very little work.
I wish the CPU card upgrade thing had caught on more. That was so quick to upgrade. Great video, as usual. :)
It’s so nice to see Bryce and be reminded of how lucky we were back in the day to have such cool creative tools. I still run Bryce in SheepShaver or QEMU sometimes, since there’s just nothing like it in the modern era. Bryce was the visual app that inspired me to start writing the musical app “FretPet” which was meant to be a tool for playfully exploring music in the way Bryce was a tool for playfully exploring 3D. In the days of skeuomorphic design we imagined every application would be built more like a game with a distinctive look. I can see why that was reined in, for practical reasons, but imagine how things could be if we had all thought like the developers of Bryce.
0:07 - [thonk]
Wonderful and inspirational as always. Now I want to go bake a 90s dnb record. ❤
10:12 Hey, it's E2M1! ;)
I love these videos - you are an excellent presenter!
Great video Mrs. Fox!
My favorite Mac game in the 90s was Power Pete, which I played in my grandma's office whenever I visited her school lol
So much fun!
I really love the look of those old Power Computing PCs, Keep up the good work!
I'd love one of those G3 cards but they're nigh-on impossible to find here in the UK and are super expensive when they do show up. Didn't even know they existed back then!
Go BlueSCSI, go!
I was not expecting a mini poetry slam.
I got the Fruit of the Loom.
I'm in a secret room,
And this is not Doom.
😂🤘
I actually have a pair of screen used Rod and Cone patches from that Sega Saturn commercial.
Omgmgm. That’s awesome !
Another awesome video. Thank you, Miss Fox!
I haven't had any sonnet cpu upgrades, but I was lucky to fix mag g3 tower 333mhz 1mb L2 cache. I had Micro Conversations 3dfx Game Wizard 12MB pci so I installed it too. Awesome 3D gameplay experience. Unreal and quake looks awesome
In my case, Quake came out when I was in elementary school, and was sort of a stretch for the PC my parents had the time (which otherwise ran Doom and similar pretty well).
When I was in middle and high-school, tinkering around with the Doom and Quake source was also part of how I learned C.
Kind of funny how computers changed a lot during my childhood (back in the time 486 PCs and similar), but by around the time I finished high-school, I got a PC with a 64-bit AMD CPU at around 2GHz or similar, and PC's haven't really changed quite as much since then (more RAM, more HDD, a little faster, etc; but nothing like it was...). Granted, we did lose of CRT's and 3.5" inch floppy drives since then (well, along with the DB25 parallel and DB9 serial ports).
Meanwhile, a lot of the older computers (such as most of those from the 80s) would be almost unrecognizable if compared with a modern PC.
But, yeah, still nice seeing your content...
That’s really awesome! I had a power PC around this time. I remember we upgraded to a G3 of some kind and it ran some much better.
Love it. Speedy mac upgrades! Look forward to seeing the GPU upgrade.
I adore your ear rings ❤❤
Love the drum and bass comment
Oh man, Bryce 3D! I had completely forgotten about that. It was REALLY fun to play around with.
Great video, as always. I never owned a mac until the early 2000s (intel years), as my family and everry other family I knew were PC/Amiga folks, but those 90s macs are quite special!
I cannot ❤Maccy enough. 🙌🤗
I have the ST G4 1.4GHz in the G4 Cube. It runs pretty cool, but I had to modify the VRM and solder new MOSFETs on it, also changed their number from 6 to 8. I have also made a new VRM board, from a PicoPSU 80-WI-32. I can run the cube on 12V ::)))
I have a sonnet pci based PPC cpu I've been trying to getting working in one of my Amigas, so far no look. I'll get it working one day though.
That would be amazing ! I had no idea they could work in PPC amigas too
@@MacintoshLibrarian Only one or two of the the versions that are on a PCI card work, and then you need an Amiga that has been modified to have a PCI bus board. So its got a very tiny user base. I suspect I need to recap my A4000 board, as the that card pulls a fair bit of power and its pulling the voltage rails down.
Pretty sure I used to have one of these PowerComputing models. It used to have a unique SadMac sound effect versus Apples own machines. If you triggered it by powering it on and quicly pressing the programmers inturrupt button it'd play a sound effect like a car's tires screeching and then the sound of an impact with glass breaking.
For what its worth with regards to Quake, software mode is actually better than the 3D accelerator mode, it was never fixed, but shadow effects look better in software rendering. 3d accelerating took it out for some reason, and ID Software never fixed it. So a lot of the atmosphere was removed.
also huge fan of you having played Tomb Raider on Sega Saturn, that was the same for me and my first introduction to Tomb Raider, and Resident Evil. I still have my Sega Saturn.
Did you install the system extension for the G3 Upgrade? Without it, the L2 cache on the CPU board will not be activated.
First-time viewer, Return of the Mack.. who got a lil swagger
I have never been able to find one, but there is an early G4 that is pin compatible with the G3. It would be interesting to see what that would do.
Also, that rendering software is new to me. I would like to see how you can make a movie out of it. Also, how did you put that spinning Mac in your video?
awesome!!!
Very nice! :)
A video card with openGL and a TV tuner? Sounds like you're looking for (or already have) an ATI xclaim VR 128. A good choice for that computer, and you can even set a video input as your desktop background!
Shoutouts to MacWarez on AOL back in the day 😅
oh man... the AOL Warez scene.🥰
@@stephenoliveau lol, I still have all the old archived games n programs from back in those days scattered across a million free overwritten AOL floppies and probably on a handful of Zip drives..
..along with all of the OneClick “Hell”s (proggies/scripts) that I would write or download from other folks..so we could annoy the non-MacWarez chats lol..
Good times 🤷♂️
Calling a dnb album cover "turn of the century" dealt my millennial ass permenant soul damage 💀😂
Librarian❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😄
Bryce 3D wow, I'm having Planetary Traveler flashbacks, I think I'll go to see it again...here on RUclips.
Does Macy like old school intelligent drum n bass?
How old are you if you don't mind me asking?
I was 8 in 03. I didn't have my own computer until 08 and it had a pretty slow Pentium 4 (I think it was 3.0 GHz. I don't know what model, but later in 09 I had an Acer Veriton 2800 that my brother gave me (I think he might have stolen it, but I didn't realise that until a long time later.)) It also had a Pentium 4, but it was much better. It was one of the ones with SMT (hyperthreading) and I think it had a 2MB level 2 cache (also it was a 65nm lithography one and it ran at 3.4GHz, which of course isn't that much more than 3GHz but it was a lot faster. I think they must have made some decent improvements to the micro architecture.)
It is doom though. I recognize the level. 😅
I guess I've never played Chex Quest 😅But that was just the first level of Doom's second episode, with Chex Quest textures instead of Doom ones. Is that normal??
It's basically a re-skin of Doom, with some enemy attack changes and fewer levels.
@@afterwit3620 Neat! I knew it was a Doom engine game of course, but I always assumed it had original maps. Learn something new every day ✨
Can you run OS X with the G3 card?
What is that cool screwdriver you are using?
Its the Wera Kraftform Kompact www.kctool.com/wera-051024-kraftform-kompakt-25-pouch-set/
I never understood why Apple never had a lot of games. If they did, I probably would have gotten a Mac.
Instead I get to vicariously experience Macs instead.
I love the poofy doo! 😀
But does this Mac Clone Play Marathon Trilogy?
LOL of course we all know you're more than capable of the same gymnastic feats as Lara Croft, but this video is about the Power Computing Power Center [sic] 132, so sadly it's not fitting to demonstrate. 🤣
Seriously though, that's a massive upgrade! You're going to have to put a sticker that says 500 over the 132 in the model number on the case. Bryce was a great demonstration on the difference in speed, but it would be awesome if you could figure out how to get Maccy textured so you can render him properly in 1990s cyberspace! I have no idea how Bryce works, but perhaps there's a newer version you could use as an intermediary to import your files and export to the older version?
I was curious what country of the world Macintosh Librarian is based in. I remember a lot of vintage Apple and Mac stuff as it was part of my childhood and I am a fan of your channel based in California, USA. I am not asking to invade your privacy or anything but I was just curious the general part of the world (country) you are based.
Ieeee ❤
On behalf of those of us of a certain age, might I suggest "turn of the millennium" over "turn of the century" as a phrase.
It makes us feel a little less ancient. 🙃
Gave up on the fruit company when jobs came back and smashed the idea of generic inexpensive hardware macs. Suxor with windoze for a while...then freed with GNU/Linux. I now question people's sanity in having any interest with said fruit company. Always overpriced and user hostile, and that hostility has increased over time. Try doing what you are doing to a "modern" mac. Not without very expensive PCB repair equipment.
Hello from Turkey, i like this channel and videos. Thanks.