Now that's my kind of Queen. She put everybody in their rightful place and reminded them that they SERVE HER. Got all of them running scared. Although I didn't agree with most of Victoria's policies and positions, you can't deny that she was a Capable and illustrious (Sometimes Dramatic, which I love) Queen til the end.
I love this film, I was hoping to see a clip of my favorite Queen's speech from this film. It was the bit in her private office where she says that accusing he of mental disfunction will not work, I love it.
Never say never! But it does indeed seem unlikely now given Judi’s age and her vision… She may no longer be with us by the time the world is ready for the final days of QE2 on screen.
idk why she got so uppity about sir / knighthood, there were plenty of absolutely atrocious people getting knighthood... as long as they are rich and influential (not always good)
@@jcs1025 i think it was just a color racist thing, they couldn't care less if a chocolate factory owner who donated a lot of chocolate (so he can get knighthood) get one
@@jcs1025 i forgot but i read somewhere that they can even buy peerage but like the lowest one for a lot of money, baron or baronet ( you would be addressed as Sir and rank higher than knight) the Rothschild infamously obtained one and became Baron de Rothschild
@@angelabby2379 - That used to be the case: James VI/I allowed the rank to be sold for 1000 pounds as a hereditary knighthood as a way to raise money. The practice ended only in 1964, although Parliament gave the title to Margaret Thatcher in 1990 (gave, not sold.) Families that still had a legitimate claim to the title are still able to use it, however.
I wish I enjoyed period movies because I love me my Dame Judi! I was going to watch just because of Judi but the only one I see isn’t the one with her in it.
The real munshi seems to have been a manipulator. And grew podgy - nothing like the handsome and upright fictional representation. Servants and household hated him. But she adored him, infatuated, one suspects, as she had been with John Brown.
And her staff WEREN’T manipulators , obsessed with their own titles and positions ? 🤣🤣 They were white. He wasn’t. Therefore…they were free to be prejudiced. How many administrators bothered to learn Urdu, like she did ?
@@Roheryn100 It was his BEHAVIOUR that turned them off - his sense of importance and him telling other servants (at the end of the day that is what he was too) that he was the Queen's favourite and he could do whatever he wanted irritated them. It wasn't that he wasn't white! The servants didn't like him, the other royals didn't like him.
@@zzzbbbooo Ever heard of the saying “History is written by the victors” ? The accounts we have are THEIR accounts. They won out in the end, but it doesn’t necessarily mean they were right. Of COURSE they would think he was a manipulator ! They could no longer be sure of getting THEIR way.
Never will a series be able to convey the true reality of Queen Victoria. History will do justice to his 63 years and 216 days of reign, but never a series! For me, that I am British and not a supporter of the monarchy, from my perspective as a history student, like Princess Margaret, Queen Victoria was a very forward-looking lady in her time!
To be a history student and not a supporter of the monarchy seems to be quite history-less. The monarchy is a fundamental part of Britain at every level
@@Roheryn100 Absolutely! From Lord M [Melbourne], to 'Dear John'[Brown] to 'Dizzy' [Benjamin Disraeli] even her 'Dearest Angel' Albert, Victoria never did agreed to anything that she herself didn't want to have happen- no matter how charming she considered any particular man! Granted, that Abdul wasn't above wanting (and getting) favors from her but if she herself hadn't wanted him to have any, she wouldn't have granted any! Besides, Victoria knew that for any servant or aide who resigned, there would be hundreds of applicants who'd have eagerly taken their places instead of staying in limbo or poverty!
This was a disappointingly dull film. It could have been much more. But, perhaps it is straying from history, and so cannot go very far in its direction without being dismissed entirely.
Dame Judy Dench is absolutely riveting in this role, as she is in every role. Suzie Izzard looks amazing as Bertie.
Now that's my kind of Queen. She put everybody in their rightful place and reminded them that they SERVE HER. Got all of them running scared. Although I didn't agree with most of Victoria's policies and positions, you can't deny that she was a Capable and illustrious (Sometimes Dramatic, which I love) Queen til the end.
I love this film, I was hoping to see a clip of my favorite Queen's speech from this film. It was the bit in her private office where she says that accusing he of mental disfunction will not work, I love it.
I wished Judi would had done the last queen in her moments in The Crown so she would had done the three big queens in England / United Kingdom
Never say never! But it does indeed seem unlikely now given Judi’s age and her vision… She may no longer be with us by the time the world is ready for the final days of QE2 on screen.
On the watchlist!
idk why she got so uppity about sir / knighthood, there were plenty of absolutely atrocious people getting knighthood... as long as they are rich and influential (not always good)
It was a bigger deal back ‘in the day’
@@jcs1025 i think it was just a color racist thing, they couldn't care less if a chocolate factory owner who donated a lot of chocolate (so he can get knighthood) get one
@@jcs1025 i forgot but i read somewhere that they can even buy peerage but like the lowest one for a lot of money, baron or baronet ( you would be addressed as Sir and rank higher than knight) the Rothschild infamously obtained one and became Baron de Rothschild
but those people were white, that's the thing
@@angelabby2379 - That used to be the case: James VI/I allowed the rank to be sold for 1000 pounds as a hereditary knighthood as a way to raise money. The practice ended only in 1964, although Parliament gave the title to Margaret Thatcher in 1990 (gave, not sold.) Families that still had a legitimate claim to the title are still able to use it, however.
It's been a while since I last saw this. Is it on any streaming service?
I saw this on US Netflix last year, but I don’t know if it’s still there.
You can look up at putlocker
I wish I enjoyed period movies because I love me my Dame Judi! I was going to watch just because of Judi but the only one I see isn’t the one with her in it.
The real munshi seems to have been a manipulator. And grew podgy - nothing like the handsome and upright fictional representation. Servants and household hated him. But she adored him, infatuated, one suspects, as she had been with John Brown.
what showing bad side real history of POC.... that's racist and misogynistic
And her staff WEREN’T manipulators , obsessed with their own titles and positions ? 🤣🤣
They were white. He wasn’t. Therefore…they were free to be prejudiced.
How many administrators bothered to learn Urdu, like she did ?
@@Roheryn100 It was his BEHAVIOUR that turned them off - his sense of importance and him telling other servants (at the end of the day that is what he was too) that he was the Queen's favourite and he could do whatever he wanted irritated them. It wasn't that he wasn't white! The servants didn't like him, the other royals didn't like him.
@@zzzbbbooo Ever heard of the saying “History is written by the victors” ? The accounts we have are THEIR accounts. They won out in the end, but it doesn’t necessarily mean they were right. Of COURSE they would think he was a manipulator ! They could no longer be sure of getting THEIR way.
Never will a series be able to convey the true reality of Queen Victoria. History will do justice to his 63 years and 216 days of reign, but never a series! For me, that I am British and not a supporter of the monarchy, from my perspective as a history student, like Princess Margaret, Queen Victoria was a very forward-looking lady in her time!
Could I ask you why you are not a supporter of the Monarchy? 😔😔
To be a history student and not a supporter of the monarchy seems to be quite history-less. The monarchy is a fundamental part of Britain at every level
The Crown: Victoria
I did not know I needed this in my life!
Too bad, the prince of Wales was so vile. Dirty Bertie should’ve also been put in his place.
They’re cowards, always have been, always will be.
it's a movie
He was an expert manipulator.... the queen didn't stand a chance.
She was a Grand Manipulator in her own right.
@@Roheryn100 Absolutely! From Lord M [Melbourne], to 'Dear John'[Brown] to 'Dizzy' [Benjamin Disraeli] even her 'Dearest Angel' Albert, Victoria never did agreed to anything that she herself didn't want to have happen- no matter how charming she considered any particular man! Granted, that Abdul wasn't above wanting (and getting) favors from her but if she herself hadn't wanted him to have any, she wouldn't have granted any! Besides, Victoria knew that for any servant or aide who resigned, there would be hundreds of applicants who'd have eagerly taken their places instead of staying in limbo or poverty!
Sure lets let wales manage our policies 😂 no point in us doing it. What would the irish know about their owe policies 😂
This was a disappointingly dull film. It could have been much more. But, perhaps it is straying from history, and so cannot go very far in its direction without being dismissed entirely.