Jordan Peterson: Advice for Hyper-Intellectual People
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Jordan B Peterson (born June 12, 1962) is a Canadian clinical psychologist and professor of psychology at the University of Toronto.
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This clip has nothing to do with left wing or right wing ideology, but Intellect, wisdom, knowledge, arrogance and the lack of those attributes in correlation to coexistence between the intellect and people who are not really anti intellectual, but not very bright l within modern society !
Maybe your other clips are about left wing ideology, but not this one ! Sorry .
@Dominic Tétrault The values the intellect could uphold ! But still have nothing to do with left or right wing.
@Dominic Tétrault I agree and couldn't have put it any better myself.
@@scholargeneral247 now what colour is the table cloth?
So was this really intended as advice for hyper intelligent people? Or quote mining intended to make stupid assholes feel better about being stupid assholes?
What I find shocking is the number of people with doctorates who are not intellectually curious and become extremely hostile if you try to have an intellectual conversation with them.
The only doctorates I meet are serving coffee at Starbucks.
Even the most intelligent of human's is prone to developing a dogma.
College has never been an indicator of someone's intelligence. The education system is about piece milling information together and vomiting it out. Education doesn't teach people how to critically think for themselves or analyze for themselves. Or to seek out their own education. To further explore ideas. It was designed to spit out factory workers. It wasn't designed for the intellectual in mind. The education system rarely does anything for the intellectual. Take a look into history of people who we view as genius, who rejected the traditional educational road. Instead they invented and created without ever stepping into the doorstep of organized education beyond the ones they were forced into during their youth.
I'm not surprised. We are in a harshly anti-intellectual age, right now. Even many of the intellectuals don't want their ideas challenged.
Peace Harmony Eh not really as many voices as their are, we are in no more an anti intellectual time than any other time.
Given the fact there are many things about the human brain and how we work we are still rather unsure of I would recend your comments. Why because you sound like you're gonna put your foot in your mouth. Avoid this and go study more. And please don't try to say oh I know enough to know.....no you don't. Is this your field of study? Or are you basing it off commonly held beliefs? Spoilers those in that field can't confirm or deny it so neither can you.
"Advice for hyper-intellectual people
Recommended for you"
Why, thank you!
TG 125 , lol
I feel attacked
and then I watched the video and based on his explanation: No, I am definitely not a Hyper-Intellectual Person lmaoo
@@lefaek3720 [X] - doubt
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If you're intelligent, people assume you're arrogant even if you're humble. You can't be intelligent without people hating you for it because it makes many people feel inferior. Ignorance is applauded in society.
Acting like an idiot while being smart really helps to solve that problem.
My life.. Always being told i just want to be right while i watch everybody ignore my advice at their own peril. I have a curse. I cannot stop obsessively thinking about everything in extremely deep ways. 😞 I hate it and it causes many many dysfunctions in my life. Still, i don't think I'm smarter.. I do however access what little intelligence i possess in a rapid uncontrollable manner that often exceeds the average mental energy most individuals are equipped to have at any given moment.
Some intellectuals use their intellect to cheat, steal, manipulate, fool, bully, and obfuscate the general public in order to amass undeserved gains in power and wealth, such as some politicians and Wall Street fraudsters, are part of the reason why they aren't liked.
Not all people live their days by envying others seemingly better than themselves, including intellect.
@@celebratedrazorworks well I think it is a lot better to dig deep behind the meaning of even simple things than to take things superficially.
The brutile reality of being inferior whilst the other is loading it ,how can that be acceptable to ones ego.
As someone of pretty average intelligence, this will be extremely helpful to me as I continue to pretend and act like a hyper intellectual genius.
LOLLOLLOL
Yesh Jordan Peterson seems like a huge circlejerk for upper class elite intellectualites.
Literally me after watching Evangelion
Same bro 😂
This is exactly what a hyper intellectual arrogant genius would say
When I was a kid I idolized my uncle. He was so smart and so wise. I was always messing up in school and breaking things being careless. He always let me hang around with him in his shop though holding a flashlight for him. In my 20s I finally asked him how he got so smart and wise to stuff. He grinned and said “real wise men were once real dumb kids and being smart was from books.” He let me hang out cause he saw himself in me. Now he’s gone and I’m him with my boy holding the flashlight for me. Lol.
That’s beautiful!
Good man, raise that boy right. We need more good men in this world.
This Is such a beautiful story. Continue reading and teach your boy to also read. May your uncle rest in peace. Wish you all the best, and may curiosity eternaly live in us and generations to come!
I am glad you had someone that you could look up to in this way. God bless
@@adamalouette1047
*_Truthfully_* the good ending.
4 Million people: sometimes my genius is... it’s almost frightening.
So uncivilized?
Jordan Peterson really knows how to tickle the part of an underachievers brain that tells them they’re special for being lazy.
Hello there!
Crub your bloody comment
@@thecanmanification some people here are not that though lol
When I was in high school I fell in love with the academia aesthetic because I loved the idea of being a gifted intellectual and I love pursuing knowledge. This also was because I felt intellectually inferior and I would often get in heated debates because it felt like I had to prove. But then one person told me in the community, we are all learning. It took away the hierarchy or competition mindset for me.
I left the academia aesthetic behind but I still enjoy exploring ideas and philosophies and understanding the human experience.
I was told that too and just hit the dude. Lowered his IQ by 50 and raised mine by 100
What do you mean by academia aesthetic? As in the image of someone that reads books or studies rather than actually doing those things?
@@azumarie7as in dark or light academia I am pretty sure
@@azumarie7that is, the aesthetic regardless of whether the person reads or not
@@glitcharcingI still don't get how does that have anything to do with genuine intelligence, Isn't that simply wanting to be seen as an intellectual? Clearly an act of pseudo intellect. I'm glad OP became more mature though.
I completely agree with Jordan on the points he's making in this video. I find myself bored with small talk and most people get very bored with what I want to talk about, which is usually abstract.
"so, yeah."
-jordan Peterson
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@@YouArentThatImportant Reported
@@raginbakin1430 dont care
@@YouArentThatImportant dont care
@@raginbakin1430 Jesus Christ is my Lord and savior
" The difference between stupidity and genius , is that genius has it's limits." - Einstein
@@lolipoppification pretty Deep of you , just as Einstein would've taken his own quote 👏🏼
Never seen that quote. I like it.
I legit thought that's coming from L. Very relatable though.
I thot the quote was there is a fine line between genius and insanity
Einstein wasted his intellect on physics: he should have been a stand-up comic. :)
I think because I started to be smarter than people around me from a very young age, even while being the guy who never talk I was very arrogant, and I still am, but it’s been only a few months that I’m working on it. Everyone told me I was really smart since I’m a child and it made me feel superior (especially because I was also very curious and I have a good memory, I was wiser than people my age). My dad has an IQ of 149 and always amazed people around him, and everyone expected me to be like him. But I became lazy because I never had to work until I was in a university, and now I failed my first year in that university twice, because I don’t know how to work since I never had to. I’m impressed by hardworking people, because I never really did that, but I have to learn that skill now. Anyway, all that to say, being smart is not all good, because it made me arrogant, deeply depressed since I was 7, and too lazy for my own good.
Im 100% right there with you. School was so easy, that I never developed study habits, and I would plan it out like a grand strategy, that I would just play the system and do as little as possible to pass. In my view it was a game, and I was trying to win with the least amount of efffort, when in reality, school is alot about self discipline, and doing the things that need to be done regardless how boring or tedious. Because there will be lots of things, especially in a career, that are boring and tedious, and dont require alot of thinking, but still need to get done.
Iq is really not a correct measure of intelligence
@@proudfatherofadeadweightso5715 yeah but most of the times, someone with 150 is smarter than the one with 80. Yeah there are different kinds of intelligences quand the IQ test doesn’t touch all of them at all. But it still give a vague idea
@@louismartinez6322 yeah I mean the problem arises because of the fact that people actually study and practice and revise previous tests to take the Mensa test which completely destroys the concept of natural intelligence , Mensa tests also have a very pretentious grammar section at first lol , although I like the spatial recognition and mathematics part I have always felt like these days iq test only tells you the academic mental aptitude of the person
Don't know what iq tests used to be like in your father's time
Also excited for the anime?
@@proudfatherofadeadweightso5715 yeah my dad did it a long time ago while he joined the equivalent of special forces but in France (he left just after the training because he didn’t like it). So it was really different from today.
And yes, excited for the anime, it’s been one of my favorite manga for a while now, and both the voice actors and the animation seems awesome for the little we saw
Humility is the only path from Intellect to wisdom
I prefer the term ‘modesty’ to ‘humility’.
@@claudiamanta1943 modesty only follows when one settles down with humility.
so, i might be wrong but it'd be-
humility>modesty>wisdom.
@@so_dumbshu We can’t be wrong because neither of us is trying to ‘win an argument’ or establish facts. I find Peterson’s bellicose mindset betraying a poorly concealed (if conscious at all) underlying weakness (both as his subjective self- image and as weakness of argument). Whereas it’s his right to think less of himself, he doesn’t have the right to impose or merely persuasively propose it to people who have a healthier self- esteem (it is telling that he does have a problem with the concept of self- esteem, by the way).
We’re not talking about truth here, we are sharing our own perspectives.
What is the difference between humility and modesty?
For me, ‘humility’ is too semantically close to ‘humiliation’, etymologically originated from ‘humus’, earth, ‘lowness’, ‘baseness’, the bloody monotheistic god crafting Adam from ‘adamah’ which, unlike Khnum’s clay, held not the sacred wine and oil, but animal blood and curses. Humility is unnatural because people are like trees growing upwards, rising because they are in love with the Sun whom they seek to embrace with their boughs. Some are not very tall, some have their trunk somewhat twisted, and that’s ok because each grows upwards.
‘Modesty’ is acknowledging that each tree is beautiful in its own right. A baobab or cedar tree is not more valuable than a willow. Neither is an apple tree more valuable than a palm tree.
‘Wisdom’ is the ability to see things for what they are, not letting our minds impose filters or chopping trees. Or torturing them by forcing them into bonsai trees whom (sic) we can shape as we want. Or, worst of all, chopping them down because we need crosses.
There is no connection between wisdom and intellect at all. Wisdom comes from the level of consciousness, which means a high level of understanding reality, while intellect comes from learning and thinking. You need some IQ to learn, so you learn, process what you've learned, draw conclusions at the end, and that's intellect, my friend.
@@EF-bk4vf it was more of a-
if you understand stuff faster, learn stuff quicker with higher intellect then you'd probably be wiset quicker.
cancelling which would be if you get better quicker, you'd be unwise faster too
maybe
"You know, I'm somewhat of an intellectual myself."
What is that like? Does the grass smell sweeter?
How am I supposed to know? and to what degree goes 'somewhat' in your claim?
I am not supposed to give my opinion BUT I think we intellectuals have to have an opinion about EVERYTHING.
@@Awarapan bold of you to assume that you're one of us lol
Back the formula OFF!!!
“Some people I’ve known were intellectually impaired and still wise”
You mean like my man Forrest Gump?
Forrest Gump was emotionally intelligent
You made me happy with your comment, thank you
Great example :D
Forest Gump did not exist. He would have been dead three times. He - in my opinion - is just stupid.
@@TVSuchty yeh i agree with you. the movie isnt realistic. but my opinion is that its an exaggeration in order to prove a point. that being that one can be good without being intelligent. or rather - intelligence and goodness are not necessarily to be conflated.
Six years ago, I stumbled across this video. It was a time when I was mentally ill, terribly anxious and as lost as one could be. It was the beginning of a journey, that would teach me what suffering, morally good suffering means. I've got engaged with the litterature of C.G Jung, MLVF and many others. Even though still suffering, my life has meaning, and I'm slowly leaving these authors behind and beginning to live the life I was made to live. My gratitude, even if not too high, is slowly growing despite several setbacks. Seeing this video popping on my recommend feed, makes me reflect the time my life changed, and maybe awakes a little bit of happiness. I've now gone a full circle.
Hey, well written. Good for you and all the best!!
Suffering is immoral and it’s promoted by those who are too stupid (perhaps both intellectually and morally, the moral stupidity being the main factor) to reframe life’s challenges in a positive manner. I have no respect or sympathy for those who glorify suffering and, in them doing so, create or condone suffering for others ‘because it’s necessary’. In addition to being stupid, they are lazy and uncaring. Whereas they are free to ruin their lives, they should not be allowed to make the lives of others more difficult than they naturally are. For example, let no one dare place a cross on my shoulders just because they’re spiritually masochistic and think it’s good for me. Keep your stupidity and callousness in private.
Yes, you may call me arrogant (though I’m not a genius or morally perfect). You better be genuinely wise and pay attention to my insulting attitude or words.
@@claudiamanta1943 With morally good suffering I mean suffering through the things that unavoidably cause pain, and similarly embracing this feeling. It might sound counterintuitive, but it's the only way out of longlasting suffering that I know. Therefore I disagree with you, and whole-heartidly encourage everyone to bear their cross!
@@oskarbrenner13 There are very few pains that are genuinely unavoidable. Suffering is distinct from experiencing pain. Suffering is a vague term that is the psychological shadow of objective pain.
Take giving birth, for example. Is pain unavoidable? Yes. Does it have to be suffering, though? No. What is the meaning of that pain? You say that this pain is because Eve was disobedient and was cursed by god. Does your attribution of your meaning help? No.
This is just a crude example.
Most suffering is not needed. The causes are social, economic, psychological- all highly preventable. Not addressed, though, by those who have your mindset- attitude of ‘righteous suffering’ and all that ‘bear your cross’ (frankly) utter crap.
I don’t care about the meaning you give to my suffering. I want (nay, demand of) you to do everything you can to eliminate the causes for social ills that affect all of us. But you won’t, thus being in breach of the basic social contract, because who and what would you be without your beliefs?
@@claudiamanta1943 I think we are on the same page, really. Since English is not my mother tongue I might have expressed myself unclearly.
I do not put any glorious meaning into suffering, nor do I think anyone should do anything in order to increase ones suffering. The problem I see is that many distract themselves from psychological pain, for example difficult emotions. As long as the painful event is not dealt with, it makes you suffer from it. In order to overcome it, you need to suffer through it, and this is what I mean with morally good suffering. Not distracting oneself from the emotion, simply letting it pass. This pain is unavoidable.
Having "a cross to bear" I've interpreted it as taking responsibility of ones personal issues, regardless of if they awake old wounds, causing pain and perhaps making you suffer until you dealt with the problems. So in a sense this cross lightens the more you suffer through your problems.
Thanks for your psychoanalysis. Now, go and project your shadow at someone else.
I have learned a great deal from my Non-Verbal Severely Autistic 19-year-old son. Depspite reading voraciously and trying to learn about everything and travelling the world, I learn more by watching him and trying to understand his needs. Knowledge can come from anywhere. Wisdom appears to be scarcer but is always present.
@Hello there, how are you doing this blessed day ?
@@edithbannerman4 I am having a great day. My son went for his bi-annual Checkup for his Autism and I also spent some time talking with a friend in Australia and a New Neighbor. How are you doing?
@@williampagdon4822 I’m good and glad you did a lot, where you located?
“True knowledge exists in knowing you know nothing!”
-Socrates
“True wisdom comes to each of us when we realize how little we understand about life, ourselves, and the world around us.”
-Socrates
"Pffffffffffffffff... Ffffffft"
-my asshole
(just having a laugh at (insert smart quote here) and explaining that it is satire for those unaware)
Hold on mate i here to feed my ego
That's what real knowledge looks like.
I think he also said that one shouldn't endeavor in philosophy until your 30s. First one must be a warrior to understand true struggle and right and wrong, then a poet to express what you've seen, and then finally a philosopher to try and understand it all. Im definitely butchering the quote I paraphrased and am going off of memory lol. Might have even been Plato that says that.
The more we know, the less we know.
Video: Advice for hyper-intellectual people
1.5 Million people: Clicks
thats less than a thousandth of the population
Not 1.5 Million people liked this , this is the number of times this particular video was watched .
Why do we assume the general public isn't hyper intellectual?
The arrogance 😂
@@freshmanwithgotee Because it cannot be. Hyper intellectuals here refers to the "most" intellectual people, that's always going to be a minority.
One of the most challenging things I had to overcome was realising at 19 years old that I wasn't as gifted and intelligent as everyone always told me I was. I just had a headstart on everyone else and wasted my potential by becoming lazy. Now university is kicking my ass and I struggle to develop the work ethic that is necessary. I feel terrible about it, my parents keep ridiculing me even though they never got as far as me. I hate myself for letting this happen
Don't. You're gonna make it bruh, just keep going.
As the parent of a young man who is in same position as you, trust yourself, understand that your parents ARE proud of you, work as hard as YOU need to achieve YOUR goals. That takes focus not brains.
Remember, after all that effort that a university education is to prove what you are capable of to yourself firstly and to others secondarily. Be proud of your achievements not ashamed of your shortcomings.
At school I didn't see the need to work hard because it was too easy. Then I failed first year at university. I took a few gap years, driving construction machinery, working on a mine first on the surface and then underground, and found that I didn't too too badly. That gave me the confidence and maturity that I lacked and when I went back to university I topped out in most subjects. Work is fun, when you approach it with the right attitude. Fear of failure is holding you back. Find something that you are exceptional at, whether it's diagnosing car problems or getting a poem that most others misunderstand. Carry the attitude that you can solve it through to everything else in your life.
I see much of myself in your comment, and I'm shocked to think I'm about 8 years ahead of you. First off, be at University for the right reason. In the video, when Peterson mentions the dwarf with a big ear, your goal at University is to give yourself that big ear. If you're not there for STEM (or a handful of other career-oriented degrees), it's a waste of time and money. There's a rumor that going to University once used to be about bettering yourself more generally, but my experience did not match this for the most part. (Better yourself along the lines of getting a more positive worldview and dispel the nihilistic lies you've been led to believe, become a better writer and reader, and make yourself useful to other people.)
Secondly, I had those same struggles of feeling failure quite often on this path. Talk therapy was incredibly helpful for me (being more of a "bottom-up" solution to my nihilism and self-defeating tendencies). Dopamine addiction is also something worth actively managing (e.g. porn, video game, or social media addiction). For me, I quit video games cold turkey, including watching video game related media (Let's Plays, Streaming). I was shocked at how much more "mundane" things became enjoyable. These things do not respect your time and are usually trying to replace something more meaningful with an imitation (romance, progression towards a goal, or friends). Next, get a part-time job (about 20 hours/week is perfect). If you can, get a job related to your major as well, which is usually possible through the University. (The equivalent to this might be a paid internship.) The amount of income you can gain is virtually incomparable to amount others can give you. It can also be critically important if you're financially insecure, as I was. But, more importantly, it's worthwhile use of time and can help feed your interests.
I digress, I could say so much more as someone who made it through University. I wish you the best and I know we're all going to make it.
Dudee.. cant believe that theres someone else out there that has a description of life exactly like me, Not that I think Im one of a kind or special, cause theres no goddamn special about it, but its just so ''refreshing?'' that theres someone out there that I know for sure that im walking the same path with. I think our only difference was that i havent even entered college yet, and life is financially hard as fck for me (Im living with my father and I have my own room, internet and PC. But other than that, im dirt poor as fck).
Thanks for reading my essay if you ever did, just unnecessarily vented with no particular reason at all. BTW, how are you :) ?
Thanks Jordan you made me realize what I was lacking. I was being better but you reminded me to enjoy it. You are really great guy.
_"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools"_
Hmm Amen. The road is narrow.
God has chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God has chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty - 1 Corinthians 1:27
at least cite it as the Bible
Being foolish is wise
@@chrisbattaglia475 I have noticed that fools often think they are wise.
Advice for hyper-intellectual people:
*You're probably not as smart as you think you are*
Damn even with I'm still pretty smart lol
I think many people who specialize in one area believe their intellectual value translates across all mediums equally.
This naturally gives a distorted view of their reality. This is consistent in what I've seen of modern academics.
thats not how it works, if u deeply know u re intelectual one u just are, u can assume ure the one and act like it so u start to believe it, but when u just deeply know ure smarter than rest, it probably is true
Stop self-projecting
@@Xahires Well reading that you positively aren't an intellectual
I was always shy and good in studies so some people literally called me arrogant to my face and it hurts sometime. I have come to term that there is no point in arguing to people let them perceive you however they see fit.
Best. Episode. Ever.
Creativity is so incredibly rare. Best way to spot it is thru someone's sense of humor. Non-creative people will have a very limited one..
Non-creative people tend to be rather good at comedy and having a good sense of humor. This is because of the thought that if you make people laugh, they can’t be mad at you. A lot of people learn to make people laugh. That is not creative, they take their environment and use what is common to make people laugh when they are in groups. So they are not getting laughed at, but they laugh with.
The first mistake of being smart is to think you're the smartest.
That's right, it's the beginning of the downfall. And anyway if a person is smart they should know there's always someone smarter than them
@@bouzakmaya3260 i've met one girl my age and one man older than me who were more intelligent than me without fail. the only thing i lack is wisdom. you can learn a lot from an old person who is happy (whether they have money or not).
@@DavidLinn that's right and you can find even people who are the same age as you or younger and they have certain wisdom because they probably faced some situations or experiences that taught them a lot.
There is always a bigger fish.
Its because people can be self-centered. The world doesn't care what you have to say unless people give you validation. In a way, that validation is what could end up creating that nature as they become complacent from that status.
He's spot-on. I have an I.Q. of around 148, but it's gotten me to amount to nothing significant in this life, but it certainly contributes to depression as people expect more from me, as if I have more potential for some reason.
If I could choose between infinite intellect or infinite wisdom, I'd choose infinite wisdom.
I think another downside to people with high I.Q.s is that we over-analyze, which lets us see what COULD go wrong, and that makes us less likely to take risks. As we all know, true wealth is guarded by extreme risk. It's the dragon hoarding the gold. Never would a hyper-intellectual risk going for that gold, but a less intelligent knight who can sum up the courage to take that risk stands a better chance of getting the gold.
This is why many entrepreneurs aren't too bright, but they are wise enough to seek aid from those more knowledgeable in areas they lack knowledge. They are the leaders who take up the mantle of responsibility and consequence, and they organize the people who would otherwise not take on such risk. If they succeed, they become millionaire CEOs, and if they fail, they lose everything, sometimes even their family. That's why your dim-wit boss gets paid the big bucks; he's legally responsible and is at the most risk. As the old saying goes, "fortune favors the bold." It doesn't say fortune favors the coward who knows best.
Sums up my life in a nutshell. Also for the highly gifted reading this: you are a threat to everyone.
Sit back and go over every posinility to every decision and path in ur life. What do u want, hardest thing for me to do was say NO then deal with the fallout in having to disown family members.
Also ya, i get called loser all the time cause i am white Canadian born and not making 6 figures a year.
Anxiety and depression will ruin anyone no matter who they are.
Find urslef then move forward.
IQ tests are the problem, as they are constructed to fit together with symbolic reasoning best of all; that's something of a "late stage" development in culture history and reasoning. It's a great fit to subjects like physics and computing and engineering. It's not necessarily a great fit to acts of perception into the structure of the world as it really is (including the nature of of the relation between the psyche, the physical world, and other minds, therefore also society). Nor can the IQ test deliver a person qualities such as personal charm, which has a big effect on business relationships. Nor can it lead to discipline or organisation since those require will power and the diligent structuring of time. so while IQ is positively correlated to success, there are many ways the life lived won';t necessarily be a successful or a stable one. IQ test does NOT range over tall the domains of character and perception so well as it does for symbolic reasoning. In many contexts IQ test will be a great predictor of success but it can and will hit its limits on some of the deeper kinds of question or for where perceptions of systems requires other modes of insight. Think when the test was devised. It hasn't changed much in 100 yrs. imagine trying to create a "test of intelligence" before actually having a viable "theory of consciousness". Obviously the consciousness theory is needed, before knowing even exactly what intelligence consists in. its a nice match to the task of analogical reasoning and a few other skills eg rotating shapes. but not much beyond that. And we have no way of knowing as yet what is lacking.
Sounds like you are getting wiser my friend!
Speak for yourself. Cure your neuroticism and be thankful for your supposedly high IQ
I love it when I hear someone whose experience I value, say things I've been saying for a long time, because I came to the same conclusion on my own, and it helps add data to the experiment of exploring whether something is true.
Jordan is both intelligent and wise. A rare combination.
Very good point 👍🏻
Ego is the roadblock from intellect to wisdom.
A lot of wisdom is gained when one removes the ego. It's quite shocking really, the amount of introspection one stands to gain if they merely listen and observe.
Well put.
David Monroy Generally true, but it's not quite that simple.
This is the main point.
That's something I learned recently, although if you're not vigilant the ego can make a come back without you even noticing
I watched this speech 2-3 years back, think it was 2018. It caused me to have an epiphany. I'd taken my above-average intelligence and realized I had been acting a real jerk regarding it. I even realized my friends who also do similar things that I do, I was seeing them partially as rivals, and I realized when I was sharing my work with them I wasn't simply doing it out of fun, or to feel proud, I was doing it to show off, to feel superior.
This speech seriously changed me, a lot. I spent a week pondering over how I'd been acting and realized I had slowly become... well, basically an a-hole, and I didn't realize the change because it was subtle, over time. Thanks Peterson, you stopped me from getting worse, and I've every much changed my mindset for the better.
Sounds like a step in the right direction.
This is the funniest fucking shit I swear 🤣🤣🤣
@@seth2308 you have an odd sense of humor
@@seth2308 you clicked on the wrong video buddy
Good for you, but never be ashamed of your intelligence. Keep aware of when you are a jerk, but also when people are just jealous of you
Toughest thing to accept about intelligence is that it is varied and variable. Some will have great depth of understanding without great knowledge and vice versa. Others will have great ability but it will not be visible or accepted by the world, while others will be smart because they have what people want or fear, and they can deliver it in effectively.
To be smart is know that you can't know it all, can know a great deal of many or just a few things, or just make others believe either of the two.
Knowing a lot about one thing is not a sign of intelligence. I'd say it's the opposite. If you don't see how what you do fits into the world and general body of knowledge then your expertise has far less value.
I testify that whatever he said is so on point. I have been having these thoughts about how I and my college friends are a minority in our society because we have high intelligence. Also, we really do tend to think that since we are so smart everything should come to us naturally, however slowly as we progress through our college curricula and face the outside world we are seeing how delusional we were and how our intelligence isn't the only requirement to carry us forward. And I am guilty of being useless in many aspects all the time. At home, it's not easy for me to do chores that others of my age find easier to do, event management, bargaining or repairing stuff, whereas my own skills which I am really good at are utterly useless at home. They don't need me to find a solution to a business problem or do an analysis of the household budget, they are fine without it. So yeah, struggles of being academically bright.
That's the issue with people attributing intelligence or being smart to being academically inclined. University is moreso how determined are you to follow instructions and complete deadlines. Yes it is a skill to remember and demonstrate the knowledge was learned. But outside of that realm how useful is that time spent... All you gained in terms of life skills was how to learn best and to show up on time. But even those skills from academia don't translate into learning life skills on the outside. It takes a special person to be gifted in both and generally one suffers at the expense of the other. For me, my academic side suffers but I'm gifted physically. I'm still pursuing one of the rarest degrees my school offers and am nearly done with my 4th year but it would be a lie to say I'm anywhere near the top of my class. I'm an average student. But outside of the classroom I'm leagues ahead of my peers bc I had to grow up early. It's okay as long as you understand where you lack bc you can focus on developing those skills later in life, but it's those who refuse to believe that they have any shortcomings who will truly be useless.
You've just stated you aren't smart 😂
I was that guy. Can't vouch for my intelligence but I was certainly arrogant. I had reached the conclusion that people who did not subscribe to a certain type of philosophy of nihilism were beaneath me. And then I went and worked in a warehouse.
I met a guy who was kind of weird to others because he was obsessed with hip-hop culture and shoes. But he was super-honest, very brave in everything he did, very hard working and made no apologies for being genuine.
I met a young girl who was, according to her, not the brightest, but none of us could keep up with her in our main task, due to her determination and endurance. She was also very honest and straight forward and had the most amazing ability to sincerely relate to anyone. Soon enough she was cracking jokes with everyone in the warehouse and people were seeking her company.
I met a guy who was struggling with doing something with his life, maybe wasting a lot of time on pot and escapism. But he was really open, kind to everyone who didn't behave like an arse, made everybody laugh and kindof acted like a glue that linked people together.
I also met a 56 year old man who had quit some banking job to work in a warehouse because he was bored to tears and actually enjoyed his new role. I learned that he had been a marine in his youth, he was super keen on talking to all sorts of people, never took crap from anyone and he shocked me when he said "I don't say anything about people that I wouldn't say to their face" because I realized it was true and that I was the exact opposite.
And here I was surrounded by these peculiar but magnetic people who were becoming my friends and the rules in my head, the "intelectual", were saying I should think nothing of them. When I realized and accepted that I had genuine respect and care for them I realized that I was the problem. It hit me like a truck and it changed my views.
And this would not have been possible without Jordan Peterson. So thank you JP. I'm not wise yet, but life sure is a whole lot better after that shift.
This was really well-written and a pleasant anecdote, and I thank you for it. Cheers.
Welcome to the real planet earth💫
Now that was a great story. Thanks for sharing it.
That was quite beautiful
This was beautifully written. I firmly believe that once, we tear down our beliefs that conflict with our reality we can start to see the beauty in people and experiences.
I think it was Hawking who said something like, "The enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance; the enemy is the ILLUSION of knowledge."
Always assume you can learn something from others, even if they seem dim-witted. You just might learn something crucial.
That’s explain why I sometimes gets annoying of so called intellectually lefty on RUclips.. “ no offense I not saying you are wrong on what you believe or your believes is wrong.. just saying you frustrating and kind of arrogant but I can be wrong “ .. but what I find annoying is they are so sure of what they believe or like or do is the right thing and anyone else is a idiot or a fool.. and fair enough in some regard they probably right.. read more books, enjoy nature more or see intelligent movie there question your beliefs and such.. I just get annoyed when they can’t understand that not for everyone and that’s doesn’t mean you are a terrible person or not.. but again I can be wrong ..
Coolt XZ If you dismiss viewpoints that are different than yours immediately as idiotic (without having a discussion beforehand), then that might even be a sign of low-intelligence.
Manu J. Maybe.. or maybe it’s because I got Asperger and have fight with anxiety and bad thoughts most of my life and self hate .. believe me I want to give this people right in those things they say I know they are probably right in what they talking about and I do read books or watching no mainstream movies.. but I just tired of feeling like a terrible person and just being okay with myself without self righteous people telling me I gonna changing my way of life.. especially for people who themselves is quite arrogant and believe they are better then the rest.. but that’s just my opinion.. again I not saying they are wrong.. I just saying.. not everyone can’t empowering all the time and it’s frustrating that we should all the time..
Coolt XZ Yeah it’s hard when people judge you. I also have my fair share of problems (anxiety, intrusive thoughts, suicidal thoughts, sometimes even a bit paranoid) and I’m told a lot to “man up”. Just know that there’s always someone to talk to and others who, at least to some degree, have the same problems as you.
Manu J. Sorry too heard .. but you get what mean then.. too be honest I got a little annoying of what you wrote before but you didn’t mean it as a bad thing but as a helping hand and so .. so what about we shake hands.. sorry if I wrote something stupid and wish each other the best for both of us.. please take care and be good..
Whatever anyone says about Jordan Peterson, this speech is amazing.
I've learned a lot of lessons about intellect and wisdom throughout my life. In childhood, I used to associate high intellect and talent with moral superiority, which was, thankfully, corrected without a soul-crushing disappointment.
I've had many friends with the arrogance of the intellect. It was very hard to deal with it, as I've developed an inferiority complex and felt hopeless about my abilities. Funny, parted ways with each one because of lack of emotional intelligence and wisdom.
@leekspinner "emotional intelligence" There's no such thing.
Explain?;@@nstix2009xitsn
@@nstix2009xitsn
Actually, there is. You probably know someone who “feels more than he thinks”. This doesn't mean he doesn't think, it only means his perceptions of others' feelings and others' sensitivity is very pronounced.
You made me realize having satisfaction will make life easy. I will never forget that.
"when you're dishonest, what you build falls down"
Honesty is to be sincere, free from untruthfulness.
@Mike Jones in the very short term. If you're in it for the long game, dishonesty rarely works out.
@Mike Jones You think the dishonesty that motivates the overcharging won't leech into other aspects of your construction work such as using cheap, unstable building materials over more expensive but more reliable materials? Where have you ever seen a liar so disciplined that they lied only about one type of thing but committed themselves to the truth in others without exception?
@Mike Jones You’re assuming the finished product is all that matters.
@@slicedtopieces The elites lol
"Elon Musk can't dunk" is one of my all time favorite quotes. No matter how good anyone is at anything, they completely suck at something else.
I see wisdom in your comment. Thank you!
Except that dunking is a pointless non-skill that does nothing for anybody.
True.
Elon Musk can shatter the back board. Have you not seen his videos on this? The dude is raw on the court.
Thats not correct Jordan. People with higher IQ's are better at more tasks.
Good advice. It took me forever to figure out that I need to be around intellectual peers, which is to say people who think similarly so I can progress spiritually. There is one path to wisdom and it's different for each person.
Well said 👍... you pointed subtly the snag of the pb of the majority of smart people... arrogance... wisdom takes more time and effort( observation, focus, experience of life and a solid behavior system... most important modesty and temperance )
As person who masters some truth .. it is on his responsibility to simplify things so ordinary people can understand and react in the supposed way.... you brought the easiest way to close the gap between classes of society for better world where everyone is important, indispensable, respected with gratitude and here again in some way you contribute to solve some psychosocial pb like self-esteem issues and depressions...and so on....
The moral of the story: stay humble. There's a reason why so many villains are evil geniuses - the mind, unchecked by the conscience, will learn to justify anything. It is often those who are possessed of a strong conscience, their mind unclouded by excessive information, who have the most profound insights. And this is not to say that the pursuit of knowledge isn't worthwhile. But the question becomes: what are you pursuing knowledge for? Knowledge is itself just a tool, a means to an end. It must be directed into a worthwhile purpose, else it be allowed to run riot.
Well said
well said
Well said
well said
Thank you guys
“Never criticize another individual as beneath you as they didn’t have the same resources and opportunities as you did.” -First line of Great Gatsby.
MisterAwestasia okay, not trying to discount what your comment adds to the discussion, but I just cracked open my copy of the book and it doesn't say that exactly.
Clandestine Man I was paraphrasing as I didn’t have the book in front of me at the time but I appreciate the correction :)
"In my younger and more vulnerable years my father gave me some advice that I've been turning over in my mind ever since. Whenever you feel like criticizing anyone, he told me, just remember that all the people in this world haven't had the advantages that you've had."
Straight White Male You don't believe what, OP's original post or the quote from Great Gasby? Either way though I feel they both ring pretty true, everybody has a unique set of skills that they have learned through life because everyone's life is different. How you use those skills is what makes the difference and money is really is just opportunity, because if you don't do anything with it you'll lose it. People who are rich work hard for their money, you can't become wealthy being lazy.
MisterAwestasia : this makes no sense. Great was his own arrogance, which never failed him. No one wins an argument without criticism. So I can not stand loosers.
I am a gifted INTP (m 48yo). I have chosen a career where my mind is free and where I can work on autopilot without thinking, and where there is no stress. I am a telecommunication technician. I can listen to an audio-class/podcast/conference/debate while working.
Sometimes, I need my brain to solve a problem at work and need 100% of it... like for 30 minutes... and then I can revert back to my audio stuff... feels like I am not working... feels like I have my hobby at work... It's a lot of fun 🙂
Lmao, Intp here too and i do that as well! Listen to podcasts all fucking day long while mindlessly working as a landscaper
Under achiever syndrome
I'm a Leo
why do you think you are "gifted", I'm curious.
interesting, sometimes I think I'd like a job like that but also sometimes worry I'll tire of it.
Utterly speechless, perfectly explained and perfectly concise.🙌🏽
I've seen THREE WHOLE seasons of Rick and Morty.
Pathetic... I'm a Buzzfeed member
Hehe, you fool…
I AM A MODERATOR ON R/ATHEISM
I've watched jojos 69 times
"I've seen what makes you people laugh ! You're opinions mean nothing to me!"
@@TheMissiIe Oh god
'He who seeks knowledge, begins with humbleness.'
~ Buju Banton
TENNSUMITSUMA good one.. 😊
“If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency, and vibration.”
~ Snoop Dogg
Naw. Modesty. What does one gain from thinking less of themselves?
@@peterlukach310 who said anything about thinking less of them self?!
@@TENNSUMITSUMA to be humble is to have a low value of one importance.
Wow thank you so much for sharing PhilosophyInsights! Thank you to Jordan Peterson for this too.
I could listen to that guy to no end. I'm sad that I just discovered this. I'm a polymath, (my two disciplines of interest are oil painting and computer programming) and at 50 years old am struggling more and more with this fear that I will NEVER be able to come up with a schedule, if you will, to help me manage my time more wisely (along with my full-time job) so that I can focus on those two disciplines. I've basically just given up and stepped away from both disciplines because I don't know how to get myself back into them and do them at the same time in any given week. I hate being a polymath.
Intelligence and Wisdom are two different things as any D&D player will tell you :)
@Jd Brunette True, you roll 4d6 and drop the lowest.
This comment is highly underrated
Nice.
Intelligence is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting a tomato in a fruit salad.
My dad has a genius IQ, but no wisdom or even introspection. he's hard to be around
Jordan - "you can be really intelligent and also completely useless"
the comments - "OMG this was recommend to me, I must be really intelligent"
me - "no, we're all fekkin useless"
I'd rather be useless than to be used
MBTI community be like; INxx
Depends on why you're being useless... If you're just avoiding something till it gives you anxiety then you're stupid. If you really consider what should really be done and you analyze a lot and end up doing nothing then you're intellectual enough to beat your own memories and that is to change your own beliefs again and again at will and hence smart people are afraid of committment.... And when these smart people learn to fear nothing ( takes a lot of work) they become psychopaths.
@@maybeantoniovivaldi2522 🤣OMg so true...
@@catcat4697 it depends on u mean by useless
Such an apt description of the pains of hyper-intellectualism. Such is, without doubt or contention, something that has plaugued me most of my life, and has left me a pretty solitary and somewhat reclusive person as long back as I can remember, which, given that I was born with an eidetic memory, stretches back to infancy possibly preceding the age of two. Someday, God willing, I do so wish to make acquaintance with Dr Peterson. He has a very eloquent, but also unrestrained and still humble ability to describe things in just such a manner as to be of a very understanding and empathetic nature when describing the psychological proclivities and phenomena of various strengths and disorders of the mind and psyche.
Sorry for expending such space here merely for the trite purpose of extolling praise on Dr Peterson, but hearing his empathy on this topic was, for me, quite special.
Thank you for this post, folks. May the Lord bless and keep you in your way😇
Well you had me at the first sentence! I’m so blessed to have three besties that share my traits however i tend to have too many ideas and inventions for them. I’m humble. I just can’t be “normal” nor have I succeeded at it because of circumstances of my life but it is ok because I am free. Getting out in my community talking and just saying hello is how I learn amazing things about the people around me and appreciate traits like kindness and love:
Good ideas and inventions are a dime a dozen. Try taking said invention to the market place and have millions of people pay for it.
"I am smart enough to know I am not." - Solaris
A while ago I came up with a small truism:
-- Intelligence is being able to recognize, identify and categorize new information
-- Wisdom is knowing what to do with that information
True.
I'd go so far as to add:
Wisdom is the ability to convert knowledge (information) into practice.
Intelligence is the ability to adapt quickly to a variety of new situations.
It is not passing exams
I always like the saying
"knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing it tastes bad in a fruit salad".
You could also say Knowledge is collected information, Intelligence is the ability to manipulate that collected information, and Wisdom is knowing the best way to apply the results.
Kudos to all the people in the comments using Jordan Peterson's words to analyze themselves rather than others. That, I think, is a sign of wisdom.
I had always been interested in abstract ideas from a very young age. Especially in my conversations in the last 2 years, when talking to people, I would often find myself adding a hint of philosophy/deeper meaning to what people have to say. For most people, my comments would fly right over their head seeming uninterested. However, this summer, I met a guy who was into abstract ideas just like I was. When I added that hint of philosophy to the conversation, he responded very well and we found ourself in a deep tunnel of abstraction for hours. It was so weird because I genuinely liked talking to this guy where as most new people I meet, we talk about general small talk which is mostly boring to me.
At the ripe age of 50, after being told my whole life how creative and witty I am, I've concluded I would have been far happier to go through life as a simpleton like Forrest Gump
Sorry to hear that
Why?
if i may take this one, K L, it's the pressure. It can also become a unfruitful pre-occupation. Also, what is often overlooked, talent and/or creativity is of no value if not couple with virtuoso level skill. It's the acquisition of that skill, which may take an "all-in" approach, that keeps most of us from taking that route. we need more secure vocations than "performance acting."
How about normal? Lol thinking in extremes does no good. You’re overshooting the target
@@pecan11 he knew what love is
He hit the nail on the head.
The fact that I still have to learn things and put in sincere effort applying myself hurts my ego terribly.
And the fact that I can still end up a useless nobody despite being traditionally "smart" feels like a betrayal.
Good luck // on your journey. I Respect your attitude.
Exactly. Well put.
I can weirdly relate to you. You won’t find many who will admit having that big of an ego. Furthermore, not many understand the dynamics of a big ego. Good job
Then why would wanna be traditional in any way
Try not having to put effort in. That’s how you get truly jaded. It’s very rare that I have to fully focus, things are just easy to understand. Books are easy to read. Shortcuts are easily found. It’s taken me decades to understand how to not label people incompetent fools or lazy pigs. I’ve found one person that shares this with me. He’s a very rich VP in a global business. He’s the only man I’ve ever met that I know is a level above me. He taught me how to cope.
Just found this at the perfect time! Thanks for sharing 😁
Ay yo wazz ap dude, where yaa from
Nice to have this inspiring message from you Jordan
Not sure why people assume we clicked on this because we see ourselves as hyper intelligence; I just like his discussions and wanted to hear about a subject matter that didn’t (necessarily) apply to me
Right…if every recommendation from RUclips applied to my character….I would be a really really weird person haha
RUclips recommendations and Google search results are marketing siblings ...
I most certainly do not but I do know people that are like this. Intellectuals look down there noses a lot. Not all, but most do. Especially if you do not have an education that meets their “standards”.
I was simply curious what advice would be given to the hyper intellectual despite the fact that i know that i'm not one of them
Want a cookie?
Academics can never represent someone’s true intelligence .
Benendes C Thats a common thought
Alex Jay lol
Alex Jay lmao
@@armanthompson8401the current school system caters to a certain type of temperament lmao
b1b4 yeah the current system has many flaws, and quite frankly not many redeeming qualities
Yes Dr. Peterson you have my full attention..
getting humbled quickly was the best thing to happen to me at 18 once I got into uni, nowadays i am looking to be a well rounded individual , despite my families inclination to excel in the area of research and basically lacking in many others... (and being pressured to do so as well)
I think Christ was a carpenter because of the irony in the ending of the story. Nailed it.
Boomshakalaka!! He's on fire!
Maximilian Wicén lmao
he got crucified to the tree of the knowledge of good and evil or the tree of life?
300pzl both, he bridged the gap for us
Maximilian Wicén damn, brilliant.
Struggling with a superiority mindset and it’s getting in the way with my relationships
Loved this talk
Smart for recognizing that.
And the terrifying truth is that you're probably not all that superior.
It's hard letting go of the things which make us feel good about ourselves.
But it's even more painful if you don't let go of them.
@@user-or4ut2qi3q why so?
I'm having this issue as well. With my wife I have the superior IQ. We both have below have EQs.
My biggest problem is that, because I always win arguments, she refuses to talk to me about disagreements.
One of the things about high IQ is that you are right most of the time, but you are also better at arguing, even if you are wrong.
@@edwardmitchell6581 Pick your battles. Don't belittle her. Reach out to her in other ways. "Winning" over minor disagreements is unlikely to be worth losing your marriage.
Thanks boss. How about some more advice for us hypo-intellectual folk?
The confirmation that smart doesn't directly equate to wise (and vice-versa) was classic, sorely missed by many. Thanks.
Education is regurgitation , paid and bought for . To be able to create is priceless..
I am a hyper-intellectual, watch this
*clears throat* “Yes indeed sir, indubitably”
lol
Indubitably indeed, my good Sir.
@@alexanderseton6013 boardman knows
That was book-smart, but smart right?
Hmm yes, I find this avenue of discourse suitable for such illumined minds as we. I clicked on this video in due haste as the struggles that beset we, the gifted, are hardly trivialities. Now, lest I be accused of credulity I must inform the reader that I have made something of a perusal of the timely fable ‘Rick and Morty’, ergo, by that metric alone, the moniker ‘hyper-intellectual’ is well qualified. Indubitably, the uncommonly adroit mind deserves uncommon praise and a video title thus crafted can hardly be refused.
The real problem is that the intellectual believe themselves to be wise.
The biggest real problem is that many arrogant people just parrot the current politically correct opinions and dogma and think themselves to be intellectuals. I call them pseudointellectuals, and they are often the most vocal (on social media or mainstream media). Pseudointellectual apparently is also a real word that pretty well depicts it, though I started using it even before I knew it was a real word. :P (English is not my native language.)
But yeah also the above is true, of course.
Or that cretins wouldn't know wisdom if it were presented to them in a neat package.
The real problem is using popularity as a way to determine something that has nothing to do with popularity!
The more intelligent a person is, the more they understand the limitations of intellect. In contrast, the median or less intelligent 'feel' intelligence is not quantifiable.
I find the real problem is that people take so much solace in platitudes and external validation for thus instead of persisting with introspection.
MY old uncle was a house painter who could just look at a house and decide exactly how many cans of paint it would take to paint the whole house inside and out. He never graduated from high school but, listening to him talk, you would've thought that he was a college grad.
Ain't that what people call streetsmart? I think it derives from curiosity and can be described as a sum of life experience, observation and maybe even not overthinking stuff but constantly doing. Just living life and going onwards gives you so much practice instead of all theorethical knowledge. And in the end thats what counts I guess. You gotta be curious and have/develop open eyes for social interaction and the world around you.
My grandfather was a Builder, had his own company with men and all building houses. He built the best houses and everyone in town knew about Johnnie Walker masterbuilt homes. He left school at 15
@@el_michaI don't know about street smart, but the painter uncle clearly spent a lifetime surrounded by paint and houses, gaining massive knowledge. No different than a history professor sending decades teaching about some time period, then writing a book about it.
@@NJGuy1973 That's basically what I meant. Please don't understand street smart as an insult. It is sth. very positive as I understand it.
I've got the opposite problem. My whole life people have been telling me I'm smart, I'm lucky, giving advice and telling me what they would do if they could do some of the things I can; but I've got an inferiority complex, I hate myself and have never been able to reach my full potential in any way
There's no need to hate yourself, it's not required.
I've known several people who've done shocking things/ admitted them to me on the quiet, and I assure you, there's no need to go through life flogging yourself for past misdeeds or things you rate as personal short comings.
Intelligent, wise people, who have the right degree of humility, and who have things that they regret will not judge you.
I made a choice years ago that got a couple of people killed, and I'm here to say today, that I do not judge you.
Life maybe exceedingly disappointing, but please for your own sake, don't disappoint life by falling short of forgiving yourself.
The best years of your life may be in front of you if you are willing to believe it.
I, too, applauded at him drinking that water
the water sip really put things into perspective and drove his talking points home
coffee24seven I would argue to the contrary, his talking points were merely a way of putting the water sip into perspective and driving it home. In this day in age with all the super techno gadgets we forget, at times, that the simple act of sipping water from a plastic receptacle can be such a powerful act of defiance and beauty.
So you’re saying women are lobsters?
I would agree with your analysis if it weren't for the glaring oversight of large aspects of human nature.
I nearly suffered an existential crisis after submitting a comment containing a misused conjugation of "your".
To become wise, you must care about things that most people do not. The key is how full of self you are.
Selfish people are clueless to what achieves enlightenment and wisdom.
A great deal of smart people think they've arrived, while wise people are on a never-ending journey to continue to learn and grow on a daily basis.
It's not necessarily about learning (and reading and memorizing). Just become the best version of yourself.
ah yep. thats me. idk but I feel like alot of people will think its annoying, there just isnt really many ppl I can talk to comfortably about the stuff I've learnt.
@@andreadomingachidiac9855 the best version of yourself is achieved by learning who you are and why you do the things you do right? or what do you mean.
@@Hey-jw3dm yes
Philosophers > Sophists
That's why I struggle with dating. If I meet a guy who perceives himself as less intelligent, he tends to become insecure. He often changes the subject whenever our conversation drifts towards abstract concepts. I just wish we could communicate openly and fearlessly about all subjects.
In my experience creativity isn't something nobody has, some are born into circumstances that grow it better, and others otherwise- but in most cases doubt is the thing that stifles its growth.
More intelligence= more awareness=more overthinking=more depression=more unhappy :(
You sound like exurb1a bro ....
@@davekiller143 reminds me that i should watch his new vid
That's an old cliché that depressed people tell themselves so they have a reason to feel better about themselves
@@Fujibayashi50 do they feel better tho?
I'll drink to that! 🥂
I really did use my “intelligence” as a huge part of my ego. And my athleticism was the other part. But in the center of my pride was pain and fear. And letting go is my biggest weakness. So I suffered at my own fault. Now I just hope to be wise enough to know what is valuable and what is not and just go after that.
We already got a problem when your intelligence is a part of your ego, man.
this will get you the wrong pussy
What are u talking about
I can relate. With age I've come to realize how unwise I've been. Now I'm navigating my life one failure at a time :D
A.k.a I really want random strangers in this RUclips comment section to think I'm smart.
I wonder how many people clicked on the video and then were humbled by Peterson’s exceptionally objective perspective? He almost immediately draws a distinction between intellect and wisdom, and the fact that these two things can be mutually exclusive.
From my perspective, wisdom is transcendental situational intelligence; and the intellect is the ability to compute ideas. The intellect without wisdom will become foolishness, but wisdom stands upright without the intellect. Wisdom calls us to be humbled, because our existence is humbling. The intellect being undisputed calls us to be like God, but we are mortal and fragile and nothing like God.
What a man. I love this guy. Wisdom. Lovely. Thanks.
I grew up in what could be called an 'intellectual silo', as a member of a gifted children's association, So I know exactly what he is talking about. Some people with extremely high IQs have no common sense at all, not much in the way of social skills and/or unpleasant personalities - I was lucky that my parents were aware of the problem and worked hard to socialise my brothers and I from the beginning, but many 'gifted' children grow up too fast and skip important social development stages.
I think it's also the issue of being very smart doesn't mean you have motive or interest in being productive. In my high school everyone thought I was the smartest kid in school. Thing is though is i had a friend (who happened to be in all the math classes I was taking during high school) who was definitely smarter than I was (and probably am now) yet nobody really payed him any mind. He was bored and disinterested. I helped him out when it came literature/english but he was definitely gifted in mathematics - for instance, in our AP calculus class he was using lagrange multipliers to quickly solve problems involving finding the dimensions of an object with a certain volume given its surface area, which is a concept in three dimensional calculus, a course I took in my sophmore year as an electrical engineering student (AP calculus is mainly understanding the basic concept and applications of derivatives/integrals).
He had no aspirations to go to university or really do anything after graduating. I had my IQ taken when I was 10 and had a score 139 (though that's probably dropped off a considerable amount and 120-130 is likely a more reasonable estimate) so he was definitely at least a little smart, but alas "never amounted to anything" or whatever superficial accolade is supposed to be attributed to people who can think flexibly.
I think the issue is many successful people are intelligent, but being unsuccessful doesn't necessarily mean you're not intelligent. Ultimately I think intelligence (at least on a colloquial level) is effectively meaningless and shouldn't be at the forefront of peoples' thoughts. I'm starting to dig myself out of that rabbit hole and just worry about things I like doing or things I like thinking about, and it is making be less depressed and more productive.
TheArnoldification For me, having the ability to figure things out quickly causes me to be able to see the end of a thing; then I think, "What's the point going forward? I already know the pattern, I already know I could easily do it, so now what's the point?" I throw myself at things I've never considered before for the challenge. Quickly, the essence of the mundane is revealed. Am I the best at any one thing? No, I'm simply good at everything. That's not because I can't... it's because I already know how. However, there needs to be a solid "why". Saving the person in front of you from dying, making sure someone has a warm place to sleep, making sure someone else doesn't feel bad, making sure I'm not dying inside; now those are solid "why"s. Still yet, it is agonizing to know my pain and the pain of others. It is agonizing to never meet someone who understands or even cares about all things instead of a few things. For example, communication with people gets boring because topics dry up quickly. Most people don't discuss "everything" and keep a conversation interesting for me. It's not them, it's me! But I don't have anyone to talk with for this purpose. So, I find myself really enjoying silence with people instead. Isn't that interesting, though? By myself, my mind is a constant video stream changing channels seamlessly to the next in the same way a comedian transitions to his next joke. However, when someone else is around, I am content if they prefer silence because that is what my mind prefers. Self-employed, self-researched, self-useless in the big picture - at least, to this world... beyond the work niche I discovered to make money... which is simply something that most people are too lazy to do for themselves. /laughing at myself now
Cyclone Jack I don't know. His signature is neater than mine.
Cyclone Jack 128 is anything but low. With an IQ of 128 your intelligence will never be the bottleneck with anything you do
Social intelligence doesn't seem to have a great "IQ" metric. I have a coworker who struggles to problem solve and learn new technology. I can do this very easily. I did well in school and he struggled. However, after meetings, he will explain how my comments are crass, insensitive, or my thoughts could have a negative impact on people. In this way, he is a genius compared to me. He also gets more promotions because people love to work with him. I certainly envy his skill and try to match it, but I struggle. My mind is not fast like his in that way.
Reddit atheists watching this be like "omg that's me!"
Sounds like the 5.1 K people who all commented on this video
@@lomouche lmao
Well, that's a generalisation. And you better watch that. Because those are millions of people who escaped the brainwashing of abusing religious parents. The nihilism that comes through it is absurd though. But surely there is an escape.
yikes dude dragging religion into it. that’s very low IQ of you to do...
looool true.
Does anyone ever think that's it ive reached my potential intellectually?
It blows me away how dumb I was at school and how far ive come 21 years later. I just assume most people over time find their feet and if they don't.... well they wont be messaging here on a JP clip. My guess we are all winners and growing daily. Well done everybody 👏🏼
Thanks 🙏🙏 we keep improving ourselves 😊😊
Yeah. For me, every seven years ago I recognize how stupid I was and count my regrets. Most regrets I cannot change, and by that time, the moment is lost forever thats swept into my subconcious as unfulfillment. It then fuels a hyper-creative-rage, which then becomes useful in itself if used carefully.
I can look back 1 year and list so many mistakes to fill an entire comment of their own. In another year I will be able to do the same. But isn't that an important part of intelligence already?
I never had success in school because I never felt inspired by the structured environment. This however caused me to believe I was of lesser intelligence due to my lackluster grades. It wasn't until I entered the real world and had the chance to teach myself that my mind really lit up. In response to this revelation I created a mind of vast knowledge in philosophy, politics, and universal sciences. The only downfall that is currently holding me back is the issue of friends and family. They call me a "Know it all" in condescending manners and easily brush off my thoughts or ideas without much thought. It's one of my current predicaments. Do I keep all knowledge I find beneficial to conversation to myself or do I just keep putting it out there to not be taken seriously.
You sound like someone that gives up quite quickly in the face of any challenge.
1:50: Carlin had a quote about this:
“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”
And everyone thinks of themselves to be on the upper part
This is funny. I think though, that the average person is more "hopelessly lost" in themselves than anything. Now im wondering if the same idea applies
@@alexvolk6063 well theres different kinds of intelligence right? Or is that still just a theory?
@@javierelizalde4653 there are different kinds of intelligence. But there is not only one theory what the different kinds are.
So yes you can think that something is more important than something else. And nearly everyone thinks that where he is good at is more important than where he is bad in.
But besides of that it also depends what is the average.
Do you take the average of every human, of every healthy human, of every human with a good social status or of a different population?
If you take every human then you need to be below average smart to be (exactly (IQ=100))average smart, because there are some humans who didnt go to school or did not even had enough food for their brain to develop normally. There are hundreds of reasons why someone can be less smart.
@@javierelizalde4653 There's Raw intelligence which is self evident and verbal intelligence which can be increased through reading
This is how I'm feeling right now. I know I have great potential within but I feel like I'm completely useless because I can't find a path I want to put my ability and effort to walk down.
I'd suggest to check out programming. Incredible investment of time.
I can't thank younger myself enough for learning it.
@@ekhmoi4552 Thanks so much for your input. It means so much to me.
I've had experience with programming, especially at A level. I really dislked it. My future is in Computing somewhere, just don't know where.
Just do the same thing the simpsons's comic book guy did and learn an impressive amount of comicbook facts
So when someone asks "Who's faster, Superman or Flash?" you can write a 160 pages on how Flash is capable of running faster than instant teleportation without even using the speedforce.
Step 1, uninstall league of legends
@@Dixi379 lol. So update: I'm doing a Data Analytics course and enjoying it. Playing league of legends is the very last thing I do if I get time.
Even if you aren’t a hyper intellectual (much like myself) you should still pursue knowledge, not only in your career but on character development, cultures, history, how the body and brain work, space, literature, music, all of these things matter. Some people are born with natural advantages and disadvantages, but you can still take part in the opportunities that are presented to you. Build yourself to be a better man or women who can deal with all situations, go work out to be healthy and have a clear mind, go study a topic and get a hobby outdoors. At the end of the day If you can build yourself, than you can look yourself in the mirror and feel confident about the person you are, because you know the work that you put in.
I can say what you say. Just much more faster and clearer.. I still need you cause I'm not smart. Just gifted to process the information you shared
Everybody watching this is thinking "I'm an intellectual, and wise, but not stuck-up about it".
No, I was curious 😅
I'm an intellectually adept person, IQ is high, and I am very stuck-up about it. But, I'm also insecure about it sooooo.
@@BrysenJacobsen Ya know, it's funny, I'm sure most on this comment section also either believe, or know that they have a high IQ. But it's amazing how hard it is to say "hey, I'm smart"without having immediate backlash for sounding arrogant and foolish.
I mean, look at all the pseudo intellectual people who patrol the chats using any wording they can think of to sound as intelligent as possible.
It kinda resonates with this video quite a bit. So many folks are clearly watching these videos and learning lessons or at least striving too. But don't have the moral and social wisdom to know that claiming to be intelligent does nothing but make you seem unintelligent. It's a strange phenomenon.
*Edit*
After re-reading my comment, I could even sound like a dumbass pseudo intellectual. Can really get you thinking in circles and have you questioning your own ego lol. Trying to be self aware isn't always easy.
To be fair, it is possible that the majority looking at these kind of video’s is at least in top10 of IQ range.
@@gamercatsz5441 Oh, I don't think there is any question of that. I scored in the top 2% when I took my tests in high school.
The more books I read, the more humble I become…
Same. While at time I recognize, "HEY, I thought that TOO!", nevertheless, I did NOT write it down, and put it in a BOOK.
I feel dumber the more I read and the more I know 😅
@@ashandwit Lack of courage. I believe we’ve all had great ideas but we are worried about being ridiculed for them. That’s why the worlds stagnant. I feel the same whilst reading or watching RUclips etc. if only we had support for individuals suffering from mental health issues, anxiety etc maybe the world would change. Imo atleast.
lmao, this comment is genius.
on the contrary, the more books you read the more you swagger. You can't help it having no choice in the matter.
Glad the comments are exactly what I expected
What I like about this video is it showed me a flaw in my thinking. I was discouraged to find out that I have only a slightly above average IQ. It's not that I expected it to be higher, it was that I felt I wouldn't be able to match up to the hyper intelligent. My flaw was that I equated high IQ with success in every endeavor; from business to the social to the creative. It never occurred to me that an immensely intelligent person could be worthless. That helps to calibrate my perspective and gives greater value to all the time that I spend learning.
M. S. Intelligence is influenced by both genetic and environment.. 50% of your intellectual capacity directly correlates to the amount of energy and time you put into learning. Just like the biggest people in the gym. They put in the most time. How they look when they are big is determined by their genetics.
Straight White Male Who do you know that could focus on becoming "intelligent" 24/7 365 without taking time to do other activities? No one. So sure in your world of imagination focusing on becoming intelligent apparently is correspondent directly to missing out on "lifes experiences" But in the real world you don't just focus on one thing forever... Therefore your attempt to seem intelligent by using vocabulary majority of your audience cannot comprehend is destitute. Your message literally landed probably 10% of the viewers that saw it.. The ultimate form of intelligence is being able to understand all the details and then simplify it to the worlds understanding; So that it can help people wake up. Not put a negative association with intellectuals..
EvanEnterprises please define life success.
Alwaysbehumble I'm assuming straight white male edit edited his comment after reading your to take because I don't see anything wrong with it. That being said you're not wrong but what you're describing is also leaning towards having wisdom to use your intellect in a way that benefits everybody. I do not disagree with you the being able to take the high-minded ideas and break them down for we'll call it the masses is probably one of the most important uses of intellect.
SasquatchyCowboy yes, he edited his initial comment. So I'm glad. That's a sign my message resonated.
Find areas you're weak in and improve yourself. Suddenly new interests will focus and hone your abilities far beyond what they were. Focusing on one thing is like building a tower taller than it was designed; at some point you have to go back to the base and expand.
Meow Meow Fuzzyface wow so wise
I want to be surrounded by like minded individuals with high intellectual curiosity and endless enthusiasm for trying and learning new things.
What I have noticed on my way through this life is that it doesn't really help you if you are really bright, in fact, it will constantly hurt you if the other people around you recognize that as a possibility.
One of my favorite quotes...
“I know that I am intelligent because I know that I know nothing.”
MrsTruthTeller okay Jon Snow!
@@donvandamnjohnsonlongfella1239 it was said by Socrates shortly before the oracle declared him the smartest man in ancient greece. Read more books and watch less TV
@@loganharris6713 I was making a joke. :p Why would I value the words of a dead guy. If he was so smart he would have risen from the grave and lived forever.
@@loganharris6713 Reading is for nerds! You dweeb!
@@donvandamnjohnsonlongfella1239 according to your logic, the smartest man in the world thought he could feed thousands of people with 7 loaves of bread
Too many people believe themselves to be an intellectual when they're not. That's the problem 9 out of 10 times.
Ysaack France I like what one of my college professors called a Phd. He said Phd stands for Piled Higher and Deeper lol.
are you saying my free online IQ test with ads lied when it said I had an IQ of at least 140... ? As an intellectual I find this preposterous and implement Occum's Razor to accept that the simplest solution is my own brilliance.
" 'I'm so smart, everything should just come to me.' Sorry, that's not how the world works."
Real understanding takes lots of hard work. Schools are way too concerned with student self-esteem and feelings, convincing students they are smart by lowering the bar and measuring their performance only against their peers.
The problem is that ‘being an intellectual’ and ‘having a high IQ’ are obsessively valued at the detriment of other things that should matter more. It’s a cultural obsession of the analytical West.
All my life i thought myself highly intelligent and my early school life suggested the same. Everything i had an interest in i picked up pretty much instantly. Even in later highschool years i winged the classes without much struggle. In my first try at "abitur"(which is the german degree that enables you to go to university) though i failed, so i took the classes again. It was then that i met probably the most intelligent being i have ever known to this day. He was my math teacher then and is still the only Person that made me feel truly small.
We were of similar height but he felt like a giant. It was magnificent really.
He understood my mind and helped me a lot in understanding it myself.
I changed schools before graduating because of personal circumstances but its thanks to him that i managed to graduate. I studied 2 times at a university but quit both times. I never felt guided anymore ever since i met him. Thats why im really excited about the start of the peterson Academy and want to give it one more shot. Its not like im living a bad life but i feel like i keep lagging behind my potential.
An honest man in Sodom, Lord!!
Das Problem wenn man inteligent ist, ist dass Dinge die einen interessieren aufsaugt wie ein Schwamm aber alles was nur minder interessiert einfach langweilt. Sag bescheid wenn du dafür ne Lösung findest...
The bridge between intelligence and wisdom is knowing about HOW you think world is vs actually knowing WHAT to do in the world. Its the HOW vs WHAT. HOW this happens is because that vs this is WHAT I do to make that happen. Knowing the how vs understanding the what meaning its not just about how smart you are its about what makes you smart