How Hitler was Even More Evil Than You Think - Prof. Jordan Peterson
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- Опубликовано: 28 июл 2017
- Jordan Peterson does in of whatever you may have thought that Adolf Hitler harbored even a shred of good intentions. This excerpt is part of his comprehensive psychology lecture “2017 Maps of Meaning 11: The Flood and the Tower” at the University of Toronto. Be sure to watch it entirely here:
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You sir talk out your arse more than anything. You are going to say people do not fight over resources when the native people fought the US government over that. As a matter of fact the US government tried to starve the native people by exterminating the buffalo. You are full of shit sir. Ive lived long enough to know people will fight over resources so have you. I found your analogy about hitler disturbing. You going to give him some advice how to win the war then exterminate...what giving your white supremist ideas...because that about all that listen you. Nothing about unity, self sacrifice for your country and others or equality because you do not believe in those. You are toxic when i look at you i can see right straight through you. You are so dead inside. If in your position you have made enough money from your book... leave the united state go sit with the Dhal Lama and learn how to feel....because you cant. Laugh at me call me ignorant if you want...I've worked in the worst places you can't imagine seen the faces of people. i have seen and heard and felt the faces of people and im telling you Ive seen yours a thousand times from inmates.
Because bullshit propaganda
@@My2CentsYall What a hateful fool you are -- blind to your own shortcomings, which undoubtedly are many.
@@nemanjacabarkapalordozunu So are you.
Which came first? Nazi or Marxist? Which is the best system? You're talking about WWII without explaining The Great War? Men who fought in the trench's of WWI saw the horror that you or I could never understand or imagine. Even today, historians are still baffled about WWI. Historians agree that the Treaty of Versailles would've forced Germany into another war. Why would Germany, Italy and Japan form an Axis? What was their purpose? Their goal? Is it possible the 3 countries wanted to nip communist Joe Stalin, Mao Zedong in the bud. Camps became "death" camps when the allies starved who ever existed in the camps. Just wish the professor would use some common sense.
He's the type of professor where you won't say a WORD in his class. Undivided attention and respect
I would, why be a creep. He’s no God. He’s a human a victim, as You and me, of the insane.
@@writerpaperback6284 The Fuck⁉️
Complete and utter bullshit. Ive had female professors more exciting than this milquetoast self appointed judge worshiped by troglodytes like you
@@user24350 k buddy
@@writerpaperback6284 wow your projecting hard , go get help please
I love how his vocabulary is almost endless he doesn't stutter or struggle to find the right word to fill in the sentence, people like this are so interesting to talk to
reminds me of my dad who is also a professor. He never even had to prepare a lecture, just walked up and GO. Drove my mom crazy in college, she had to study her butt off and he just walked in and aced all the classes.
Except in this clip he literally DID pause to come up with the right word to fill in the sentence.. 🤦🏻♂️
@@Sheriff_K He speaks pretty consistently *for the most part.* He’s still human, no need to take OP’s comment so literally.
He does wait to find the right word. And sometimes he struggles to.
He's undeniably interesting without pretending he has these foibles.
😂😂😂 I love it ... Live long enough for the common man to think having a regular understanding of history an psychology like really ... God we are a dumb ppl this man is giving you an 8 out of 10 cliff notes of what the real philosophers thought up ... Sad really
Honestly, if teachers would have been like him, I think us students would have no problem making studying one of our hobbies, rather than fearing the subject and just mugging them up to get marks
Progressive Leftists (and yes, the supposed politicians in their supposed opposition) don't want an educated, free-thinking populace; they want mindless drones which are easily whipped up into mob frenzy.
Read other sources the history has been altered by the winning
There's always academic standards. It's just not JP telling stories😂 That means Tests of definitions, essays, and work.
Calle a nerd, but speak for yourself. I loved being in school and learning.
He's the type of teacher we all wanted, but will never have
Bro you are everywhere
Yo, I can't believe I'm early under his comments, this like winning a lottery
Don't you like Hitler though?
I had a teacher like this, best school year of my life
Why are you everywhere?
""The death of one man is a tragedy, the deaths of millions are a statistic."" -- Josef Stalin.
What a hypocrite was Stalin then.
@@damienbrekke2574 ikr
@@damienbrekke2574 facts
@Jimmy Falk "Hitler was a Rotchschild" Really? illustrate me. Put a quote, link or somth.
@@damienbrekke2574 what do expect from a Marxist Satanist?
I had a professor just like him and no one dared say a word, not because they be in trouble but because they didn’t want to miss what he had to say
Same here & w couple of them, actually. It was a joy & honor to attend their lectures. I don't know about today, but back then, those professors were already over 60, totally old school & some had "the cut" on their chin, prove that they belonged to a very prestigious fraternity, which showed.
This man's mind is an ocean of wisdom and clarity and the fact that he shares it with all of us is a gift that really shouldn't be taken for granted!
Beautifully put 💜
The best thing I have ever done was Passing this man’s wisdom on to my son who’s life was spiralling toward suicide.
He is now back amongst the living.
@@janeharmsworth5572 That is really pleasant and positive to hear! His wisdom has hopefully also made you more clear-sighted on some points in your life. He really has that unique effect on people 😊
Aside from the fact that his assumption of "substantial resources" is completely wrong, absurd and has no basis in facts or reality. Other than that, he's a good, compelling speaker.
@@andrewpereira9271 I highly disagree. Logic and reality is the common language of JP. He´s rarely wrong about something or someone in the world.
His detailed conclusions are rock solid!
@@user-re4ub1hq3g I posted a more detailed rebuttal to his assumption. I'll paste it below.
I think it's fine he has a theory about Hitler's motivations (I don't know whether I agree with him, but that's not my point). My objections were what he presented as some sort of obvious rationale for his conclusions. His opinion of Hitler could be correct, I don't know . . . the reasons given, a maniacal squandering of Germany's resources to eliminate Jews is patiently wrong. Germany squandered its resources on an unwinnable war. A very tiny fraction was devoted, to the Holocaust . . . they didn't need hardly any resources to kill Jews and Gypsies and homosexuals, et. al. . .. if they did, they probably would have killed a lot less.
Here's the previous post . . . sorry for the length:
"What an absurdly fabricated assumption. Substantial resources? They made it very cheap and efficient to kill Jews . . . a task requiring very little manpower, some train rides to camps already built, some zyklon gas, and as the war went on, very quick mass killing so they didn't have to feed them. They DID enslave countless Jews and Gypsies who they felt could be productive and who they put to work . . . those people made up the bulk of those who survived the holocaust . . . 'cause they had to feed their Jewish slaves, for them to keep working.
Compare that to the cost of the war machine . . . millions of soldiers to recruit, train, equip, feed, etc., development of superweapons, V-1,2,3, rockets, jet propulsion, tanks, planes, trucks, shells, cannons, a thousand miles of defensive infrastructure from Norway to Normandy to thwart an allied western invasion, not to mention the tremendous costs to fight against the Russians, defend Italy, occupy France and other territory, etc.
This is a theory in search of a fact. When did Jordan Peterson decide he was an expert on everything? I've had neighbors like that . . . they're intolerable. This clip seems to be from quite some time ago, so I hope he's recanted since then . . . it's good for someone to see and admit to being wrong sometimes, even Mr. Peterson."
"If you can't figure out what someone is doing or why, look at the outcome and infer the motivation. If it produces mayhem perhaps it was aiming at mayhem." ~Jordan Peterson
He was paraphrasing Carl Jung
So what is Joe Biden aiming for ?
Nah I'm pretty sure Hitler was aiming to win. Really don't understand how anyone could look at Hitler cowering in a bunker and putting a gun to his head as the Red Army closes in and think "this is exactly what he was aiming for".
@@felixprime8291 having to commit suicide was an unintended consequence of the war.
@@lewisner He better be.
POV: You were recommended this 4 year old video and are looking through the pointless political fights in the comments realizing they're only a couple days old
Sometimes I feel like the world is just chocked full of delusional people of one constructed in-group screaming at delusional people from another constructed in-group and that the entire point of life is to find out who’s marginally less delusional. To me it’s kind of ridiculous that people are taking Peterson as a brilliant, unbiased thinker especially when he can’t even follow his own stock advice of “clean your room” and “don’t do drugs “ - things that he unequivocally states should disqualify you from discourse if you can’t do them - but it’s really no different from how you see people fawn over popular cultural figureheads despite some of them being devoid of talent and/or actively harmful.
Sums up what I'm currently experiencing right now. Nice POV
Yes
You and I, are the same
fax!
Psychology adds a great element to the study of Historical Thinking.
I remember in secondary school…
Having to do a presentation on ‘who’s the greatest person who ever lived’ and we chose who it was, I’ll keep my reply super short. In a small group we chose who is who, and me being the disliked outcast no one wanted on their team because I generally looked down upon how…. “Simple” people were, (Yeah, Arrogant, but I was bored waiting for them to grow up whilst they were being kids.) For instance, dating, petty childhood gossip and generally poor decisions made against me specifically, like I was bullied a fair bit. That’s just a reflection upon myself at the time. I’m prepared to have ‘that discussion’ with you or anyone else back then, it’s just no one was at that level especially with me.
When I got the task of, :”Chosing the greatest person who ever lived within my opinion” - Well… I chose my friend. Well, I say friend, I only knew her for months, I didn’t know her for long, and due to memory loss (Undiagnosed, but I suspect it) I only remember fragments of our time together, granted, we were kids. Not everyone can remember every day they ever lived.
She saved my life physically, it’s my belief of the fragments I remember she pushed me out the way of a car that then hit her. At the time and for a few years, I never knew what happened to her, I had to live with some kind of hope she was out there somewhere. I spoke to an old teacher and she told me, my friend (Who for all intends and purposes, wasn’t entirely viewed as a friend to me at the time, hence why I am sceptical on saying the word “friend” ) The teacher told me, she (my friend) was taken to hospital, the people from her home (It was a foster home) stayed with her and she died in hospital.
I grew up wondering why she saved me, why did she do that? As I think anyone would do.
Perhaps it was just, She couldn’t bare the thought in that moment her only friend (Maybe? closest? She didn’t have many friends in the memories or brief bits I remember).
I was told I am NOT allowed to chose my friend, for the greatest person who ever lived. Even if they gave their life to put me in that room. Which is BS that a OPEN ended question like that can be rejected when it doesn’t meet some criteria within a syllabus for marking. If your to do a presentation, it should be on the quality of the presentation, NOT the choice of what the subject is.
Instead I was forced into chosing Churchill, Which, History, especially in the UK schools (I started 2001-2012 from year 1, to end of year 11 GCSEs,) Germany and hitler was painted pretty negatively with Churchill painted as the hero we needed in our darkest hour.
I don’t know how real or true it is and to what extent. According to a vocal conversation I had with someone (I believe it was family*) Churchill actually locked up the disabled and the disadvantaged people mentally. For instance, say learning difficulty (Autism for instance) and those who physically can’t do something. I’m not that big on history, but whenever a historical piece (Or inspired time setting) within a show comes up, say, Torchwood, Doctor Who, for instance. I always appreciate it when they show it “As it was” and not just gloss over some of the really cruel harsh elements. Like, there was an episode of Torchwood, where a WW2 soldier got displaced in time, and on some day he will go back in time to close a rift in space-time. Cool,
They outright note, once he goes back, he’s not just gonna get the rest of his life there, He’s going to go back from the hospital he was in, where he was treated for his wounds from the front line. He was gonna get sent back to the front, he will suffer from shell shock, he will become paralysed and he’s going to get shot by his own team because he directly* can’t continue fighting.
In some respects, Churchill and the British, were actually “not so clean” with the British empire for example.
I honestly feel in my own opinion, Churchill, that was I told I have to chose, isn’t a clear-cut choice. He may have been the man at the for-front telling us what to believe within. However, he has his own dark elements.
My choice, I’m Biased. I maybe entirely wrong within my presumption and how I’ve dealt with the trauma. So I’ll end with this quote from doctor who.
“Good is good in the final hour, within the deepest pit, Without hope, Without witness, Without reward”
@@stasisasmr7724 as a history teacher myself, that is frustrating to me. I also give a lot of open ended and subjective questions to my students. You have to accept that students will not all to in the direction you want. Obviously, for you the most important person is the one who saved your life.
As to the culpability of Churchill and England, there are several ways to frame it. Culturally, they weren't much different from any other country at the time in regards to mental health. Science ans understanding was not where it is today.
@Maske002 of course, I 100% get that, times have changed,
My main thought (which I’m far far from knowing the full picture, and the full picture may paint a different opinion for myself.)
But when you look at what England was doing, I get the impression we were being slightly brainwashed to ‘not be’ the bad guys. Within the idea, we by definition invaded countries and occupied them to create the British empire.
Which… Granted, Hitler broke every treaty he signed forbidding him from invading country after country.
Sure. That’s bad. But on the surface level, I get the impression it could have been very different providing you consider the British empire as a threat to the rest of the world.
It’s an interesting thought, and whilst we just have history to look back on. Not the men and women who can give and portray a proper full account of it, genuinely I infer it more than suggest it, because everyone who once tried conquering the earth, started small and worked upwards.
Whether it be for some unique belief and was intended for good rather than evil. Or the evil dictator who wanted total control over everywhere.
Just on that presentation I once had to give (that I didn’t end up doing) I honestly see zero reason why it could have been either, greatest or worst person by history books.
Providing your giving that argument which is what it was, a one sided argument. That would be clearer and allowed that choice to be present. Whilst containing it within the idea of someone past who people probably have heard of already.
I also (it’s obvious and doesn’t need saying) the word great and worst is depending on which side you stand on,
My argument in a hyperthetical brass tacks sense was. This is who you didn’t hear of. Who isn’t some big position, with high stakes controlling the nation to protect us or whatever.
Just a person. You could always have someone who tries doing the right thing and is viewed as a overall good person with a decent heart*
But not be remembered for that good attempt*
Or someone like my friend who only ever managed to do one thing that you (I mean it politely) could say was a big thing. That had some impact and that’s all it was. But that one impact put me here,
It gave me the potential I should say to be here, and if I go onto get past the PTSD, the loss of them, and any and all feelings of doubt and regret, but I put every person I ever meet before myself,
Maybe one day, I might, in some way, make that same impact over the chance of years, and to many people. I may go every day singing her praises. And I’d happily give her the credit for it.
That’s why she’s a better fit than others. Because I can say she didn’t benefit from what she gave. Quite the opposite, and with a fair few people we learned about in history (mainly wars, the plague, and a tiny bit of foreign history but not really)
They all were figures that weren’t (to my opinion) ever explained properly to us,
Like for instance Churchill was, Priminister, he gave that one speech and kept the countries spirits going despite nightly bombing… I mean it with no disrespect, history can’t just be taught within a 60 minute lesson,
As someone with autism, I do find it hard sometimes to grasp the emotional side as well,
(A little off topic) I do like those analytical videos that explain what is in a scene of say a TV/movie, and I may know all the lines for that episode for example*
But I never grasped the idea of the not subtle message of say, this character lost someone they cared about, and suddenly gets put in a room where they have to deal with the aftermath, and following hints they are understanding,
Suddenly they get told the next hint is buried underground, and so… they (metaphorically) are digging their own grave,
So, I don’t know, maybe I never paid attention to history, but applied context is critical to understanding it especially with autism,
God bless RUclips for that!
the problem is that the governments dont want ppl this smart or at least they dont want us to start thinking about many topics
Especially in relation to the Nazi's. The fact they were able to indoctrinate Germans is fascinating.
These lectures are priceless. We wont ever get a lesson from him personally but perhaps RUclips is an amazing platform for we can still know how he practiced.
Just this morning I've been thinking about how battles have shifted from the battlefield to social media throughout history and it made me realize that even during "peace time" people just seem to look for something to fight about. Peterson has just eloquently stated that and even made Hitler the prime example.
Wish this guy was my teacher when I was in school. He actually cares about what he’s saying and talking about. Not just memorising a pre written lecture
Most people who say that wouldn’t have actually cared in school. Multiple teachers are like this if you actually pay attention. Then again, I’m biased because the majority of students are complete retards.
Or you are just one of those people that make too much excuses
The thing that makes it so great is he puts real world relavence and pychology into it so we as the students can actually see the purpose of history in our learning. THATS what makes him a great teacher. Wish more teachers did this tho :(
Iv read and studied Hitler j p is way of the mark about him keep believing his rubbish with no proof
@@ausername1972 Well I said it as a general statement. I didn’t go to an English speaking Secondary School so I wouldn’t know 🤷♂️
F@$king love the way he looks each student in the eye as he moves around. Stare in to their soul while discussing genocide
“That’s enough! You guys are talking about my species. We understand genocide. We do it sometime.” - Jerry Smith
It's coming quicker than anyone thinks in America.
Conspiracy theories aren't theory anymore.
I haven't gone down every rabbit hole looking for the truth, but I damn sure don't watch the tell-lie-vision.
This man is willing to dig up unresolved issues like genocide without fear of the censors reprisal. He has reached prophet status in my humble uneducated opinion.
We need a lot of wise men and women who are willing to discuss hard to discuss topics and without censorship put all arguement out on the table in the wide open. Stop the secrecy and the narcissistic abuse of entire nations.
Everyone in America is suffering from being gaslit at this moment.
LMFAO!
Theres a genocide happening now in brazil and no one gives a fuck
@@erikjunior599 ?
Hitler killed his victims like a Bond villain would. He wasted time and effort tattooing them, transporting them, cataloging them, clothing them, housing them and then, of course, gassing them. Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot were rather more efficient monsters.
Except he didn’t do anything of that lol
the closest thing i had to this kind of teacher was my sophomore world history teacher, he was so knowledgeable and enthusiastic about the topic and I learned more that year than any other history class
“If you can’t figure out the motive, look at the outcome and infer” I challenge everyone to filter American politics through this lens and see what you find
Good old days when this used to be common sense
It shouldn't be used exclusively. As he said, it's just a tool in your analytical arsenal. You CAN infer, but that doesn't actually prove anything, especially in the presence of substantial auxiliary information.
I'm going to say decision for the sake of petty power grabs. It's not really organized enough to really be otherwise
@Seen not Heard “kindest empire the earth has ever seen” 😬🤣🤣🤣 k bud, just the juxtaposition of kind and empire is funny enough, but your delusion that we actually do good in other countries is hilarious
@Seen not Heard Kindest? To who? Its like you slept through US history and never bothered to read a book or watch so much as the local news.
Prof: “Any questions?”
Student: “What’s in your right pocket?!?”
Hahahahahaha
i think it is the remote for the presentation
So he gets himself so worked up in his lectures that he gives himself a boner?
The "One Ring to Rule Them All" .....
I believe he once said it was a "pocket pussy"
I have taught history in high school for 30 years. I enjoyed the video and the comments. I have always wondered how disabled Hitler was with shell shock from the first war. I also have Jewish roots and have taken crap from other co workers for not describing Hitler as a "monster." I absolutely refuse to do this because he was NOT a monster. He was a human being who committed "monstrous," acts. The more we refer to him as such the more we increase the chances of his ilk returning because we assume he was a fluke. He wasn't.
"Why are all of you celebrating? Hitler IS dead. But the bitch that bore him is still in heat." Bertolt Brecht 1946
The most terrifying thing about Hitler is that he was basically a "Joe 6-pack" character, and average boring loser who got rejected from art school, managed to make corporal in the army, and didn't have much else going for him. If someone had killed him in the cradle, there might still be another one like him that would've done the same thing surrounded by the same cast of characters. He wasn't that smart, he wasn't that unique, he was just some random loser with a megaphone.
Definitely feel like history & psychology should be taught intertwined together bc yeah, we need to know history to not repeat it but factoring in our human behaviors could help us understand why & how things of the past took place so we *actually* don’t repeat it.
Absolutely couldn't agree more. Just like everything else in reality, psychology is the understanding of any event involving humans. History is no different. Knowing History (what happened) is fine. Pondering the psychology (why it happened) is so much more valuable to us as society, and creating progress.
This is why I love Yuval Noah Hararri’s ‘Sapiens’ so much. It takes human history and analyzes the events from a psychological perspective, talking about development and technology in a whole new way.
Just don't kill a bunch of people. They did it in the past and it was bad. There, now we are in a utopian society where war doesn't exist. I want my Nobel Peace Prize now.
I see what you're saying and I agree we should not just study the event but the reasons for said event. They already are intertwined in a way though, all history has an aspect of psychology because it's all written by people with subjective views of the world and their experiences
@@frankie9772 Never seen anyone else mention this book on the internet but I guess we are in the intellectual corner of youtube, absolutely incredible book and I've not even finished it. Of course he puts his own spin on things and it's not entirely scientific but I guess there's always an aspect of pseudoscience when it comes to psychology. I agree that the reason we can maintain large groups may be because of our ability to fabricate agreed realities, seems extremely credible. Which theory do you lean towards the most when it comes to homo-sapines being the predominant species among other species of homo? I really need to finish reading it
The only way today's college tuition rates could possibly be justified is if you had a professor like this teaching every single class.
I would pay just to have a seat near him when he does his thing
A junkie trying to help Hitler win would prepare you for what exactly? This has no value.
@@evanclealand9231 Hitler is dead.
@@hubbabubba2298 tell that to the junkie hack you worship.
@@evanclealand9231 I think he knows, since he is speaking of him in past tense.
We forget what a great teacher JP is.
He is basically saying hitler was just dumb and bad
reminds of the quote - “some men just want to watch the world burn”
Amen
What ghat from?
Gandhi said that
@@luthfirmansyahalbar3868 pff no gandhi got that from alfred in batman a dark knight
@@jacobdoolan4978 Batman Dark Knight alfred said it
"Some people just want to watch the world burn."
Never forget that.
Just read MK dude, not what they wanted
I dont think he wanted mayhem per se, he was blinded and bound by his own ideology
Ricky Weeks Sociopaths don’t lack empathy. Psychopaths do. I can say that as a sociopath.
@@mism847 then you're not a sociopath; sociopaths lack empathy but are unlike psychopaths who also have an urge to cause suffering, especially physical pain. Only, I don't know why everyone here is talking about this, as if Adolf was either of the two. Loving your people at the expense of who you perceive to be your enemies is the way all great men of old felt and acted for (even Jesus Christ)... unlike our "leaders" today, who love not their people.
Some men don't care if it burns as long as they're not called nazis as much.
So stfu.
Yup. The desires outcome usually reveals the intent the person was aiming at. That aspect cannot be ignored or overstated enough to understand things in a much better perspective
"There's a bit of Hitler in everyone"
-Jordan Peterson.
"You can suspend your unnecessary demolition of people, win the damn war and pick it up afterwards."
this is gold right here folks
It shows how petty hitler really was he didn’t care about the war as much as killing the Jews
Yes. We heard him say it
Jordan just skips the fact that the expulsion of Jews in Germany started years before the war started. And many of them were in forced labor during the war, for example in the arms industry. What one should realize is that this was a process of 12 years, put into 4 minutes by Jordan.
@Wise Acres gang stalked?
@Wise Acres "metal health". Daily dose of cradle of filth
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror" - Jean Rostand
"At home if you kill someone they arrest you. Here they give you a gun and show you what to do. I killed fifteen of those buggers. Now at home, they'd hang me. Here they'll give me a fucking medal."
Eric Idle, 1st Zulu War Sketch, Monty Python's The Meaning Of Life
Cool
How is that ridiculous quote in any way applicable to this video? Nobody thinks Hitler was a conqueror.
@@darkspeed62 Hey Freddie if you think that quote is ridiculous, this thread is way above your IQ, better to go back to the kids channels. What do you think conquerors did to the lands and the people they took? Do you think they bought them all ipads? History is written by the victors! Do you have any idea of the horrors conquerors did? Of course Hitler was a conqueror, luckily for us a short lived one. But I forget I need to lower the IQ of this conversation or your brain will melt. But as a tip, have a look at some history books. Believe it or not history goes further back than TV, in things called BOOKs, Ask your mummy to read one out loud for you...
BTW Here is a definition " one who conquers : one who wins a country in war, subdues or subjugates a people" I think Hitler did that to a few countries?
@@darkspeed62 except the world does. minus you, apparently.
I'm surprised no one has clipped this out of context.
Listening to this (again) after tonight was not very heartening.
I tried to unhitch a bathing suit that my daughter had hung on a curtain rod.
She said she would take it to town (from our hut) and wash it, but she forgot,
so I thought I'd wash it by hand for her. The rod fell down and its (wooden) holder split in two.
After that, I measured windows (in the other end of the hut)
and held up an offwhite blind that I had thrifted earlier today
to see how much it would block out the sun (sometimes needed there).
Then that rod fell down, and with it its holder and with that its attachment.
"Look at the outcome and infer the motivation."
Please, no.
"Destructive people think that Cain is their savior," Jordan Peterson. Fascinating.
100%
@Jon Iwanyszyn It can be extrapolated out to fit many archetypes, which just shows how brilliant it is!
@Liban Suleiman, Abel's sacrifice was a blood sacrifice, which foreshadows Christ's blood sacrifice on the cross. Cain's sacrifice lacked blood, which indicates his belief in man to be able to save himself. This is why Abel's sacrifice was accepted by God, and Cain's rejected. One is man-centered, and one is God-centered.
@@boethius9173 God didn't order no damn salad.
If you look at the Nazis from a logical point off view Jordan makes a lot off sense, but most people don't like that. People like to use there intuition hoping that logic isn't the truth. The death off intuition is the death of ego, only logic can prevail
"Destructive people think Cain is their savior". That is a powerful line.
What does "Cain" mean or refer to?
@@Gebrueder_Glatze Biblical figure, one of the sons of Adam. Out of jealousy he murdered his brother Abel, becoming the first person to kill another. Due to the ultimate senselessness of this act, he's also the first destroyer
@@Gebrueder_Glatze Cain, the biblical Cain could not bring God a offering the same as his brother Abel who did well. Out of jealousy he killed him. Because God favored Abel. Then lied to God about it when God asked him about it. Then had self-pity when God cursed him. So Cain is pretty much selfish, only interested in his own glory. Not savior material.
@@Gebrueder_Glatze This video will catch you up to speed on Cain. ruclips.net/video/GYBW97Z4IMw/видео.html&ab_channel=WoolieVersus
@@dgray3771 The main point was Cain thought his offering was better than Abel. They were both farmers but Cain raised sheep Abel did veggies.
There was a movie made based on a single transcript of tue meeting on the final solution. Aside from being chilling, the generals did say that wartime resources should not be diverted for that reason.
Hitler would not have been possible without that treaty ending WW1, so we can basically blame WW2 on Wilson also.
I like this guy. I don't know why he gets so much hate. He is an unbiased professional analyst, theorist and teacher. This is what they do. They don't take sides, they don't approve or disapprove. Their job is to analyze and theorize and educate. I see no racism or sexism or anything else. Just a brilliant guy being brilliant.
Arkeeny that is why he is distrusted by the elites ,he's speaks the truth
EXACTLY!!!! Well said!!!
The reason is that his brilliance shows all the more clearly the idiocy of the haters. Envy can cause hate.
He's not an unintelligent man when he sticks to his area of specialty, Clinical Psychology. He's certainly not a 1st-rate thinker when he ventures outside his area, especially when he talks about history, politics, Marxism, Secular Humanism, atheism, Global Warming, etc., and frankly he's an embarrassment. If you've seen his debate with Matt Dillahunty, then you'll understand why. His lecture above was not a brilliant analysis because his logic and assumptions were weak and full of holes, too many to mention here.
I don't dislike the man, and if he's helped young men and women lead better lives, then I applaud him in that area.
James Anthony ...may I respectfully ask what is your speciality ?
My history teacher was EXACTLY like this, and I'm so grateful for that. I still remember every concept even now.
Hitler?
@@jamesmilton4196 HAHAHA
Mine committed suicide
You mean ignoring inconvenient historical facts to push his emotional ideas?
@@jessesinclair3861 what?
Wow found this little snippet a real gem of insight! Never thought about Hitler and his probable deeper motive, like this before! I have actually witnessed this in person, when I saw the way thugs were using a a higher (legitimate) motive to satisfy their own personal vendettas and hatred!
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If Peterson had studied history, rather than psychology, he'd know history is replete with leaders far worse than Hitler.
What? He straight-up has. Do you think that simply because he's only talking about Hitler in this specific lecture, it somehow means he has no awareness of other violent totalitarian leaders?
He's discussed many more, such as Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao, etc. Many of his lectures cover the history of authoritarianism in great detail.
Journalism brain.
@@InternetUsername He talks mostly about Hitler. Everyone knows Mao and Pol Pot, and Stalin. He's best when he sticks to psychology but personally I think he's too wedded to Jung because Petersen is a believer.
I took one of his classes in undergrad, as a breadth requirement. He's changed a lot since then. The drug addiction and fame changed him. Personally. I think he has a deep dark secret about his childhood.
I dont think he ever stated otherwise?
Hitler is just an interesting case because he is (in the western world) quite famous and viewed as the epitome of evil.
WE also know far more about HItlers life with clear details and confirmed info then most others due to well documented childhood, how he took power and thousands of documents about his plans. conversations with subordinates and mindset
Meanwhile leaders in the past are farther away or we have others like Pol Pot, Mao or Stalin whom we know less about due to less info being available and far less classified documents
@@InternetUsernameI think he's extremely wrong about what he's saying here. There's a video in the same lecture where he claims hitler was elected and had a majority vote, something so bizarre that anyone who has studied the nazis would know is factually untrue. I actually don't think he has studied much history.
@@fender3873 What? A _very_ substantial factor in his rise to power was him being elected with a majority vote. The 1933 federal election saw the NSDAP win 40% of the vote for seats within the Reichstag, competing with five other parties. The NSDAP was the largest party because of this, accounting for 288 of 648 total seats.
This example also illustrates routine human interactions. Way too often some act offensively for no particular reason but this one - because they CAN. Excellent teacher.
wait what
Why is Donald Trump pretty and I am not? But why does he only have a wife but I have TWO HANDSOME GIRLFRIENDS who I show off in my masterpiece YT videos? Do you know the answer, dear vi
Self centered behavior is the Bane of our exsistence
@@AxxLAfriku you again?!
Yea man i just realised that. Human is weird
"If it produces mayhem, perhaps it was aiming at mayhem." Wholly relevant to today's events I believe
Wait what happened today?
There is no such thing as an orderly withdrawal from a country that supports the Taliban. We should’ve never even gone there.
Read the shock doctrine. Nothing like a crisis for making profits and controlling a subservient population
Exactly what I thought when I heard him say that
+1
We all know the numbers don' t add up. This is fact now.
It’s terrifically interesting how this man went from an interesting university professor to a mega content creator, teaching men how to be better!
this guys makes history so enjoyable, wish he was my teacher in HS LOL
His genius would then be grossly underpaid if he taught in HS LOL
and the remarkable thing is, he's not teaching history.
@@user-yj9qq2zd9i "No, I am not a bot and this is not a virus"
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A high school teacher is literally like a high school kid compared to this guy. The way he speaks is just amazing. Genius level IQ. My history teacher just handed out packets for us to fill out while on his laptop 😂
Also I've met you before in Austin. On 6th street. Hope you're doing good. Ur actually cool in real life.
I' ve always heard that in war there are two desired outcomes - One is peace, the other is victory and you have to try to figure out which one your opponent is after. If they just want to win at all cost you won't be able to negotiate or find a diplomatic resolution so you just have to try and win also. But this third option never occurred to me. Once he was loosing the war he wanted neither peace nor victory and he just wanted to cause as much chaos and suffering even if it meant loosing. It is quite obvious now that I think about it. He wasn't being strategic at all. So sad that all these ppl died because of a deranged man's massive ego.
Some men can't be bought or reasoned with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
your ignoring the multiple attempts the germans made to negotiate a "white peace"
it was the drunken, chain smoking, obese, racist, warmongering churchill that wanted war on behalf of the soviet union the actual villains of the story
@@drpastormartinssempa8994 you're* also germany for sure wanted peace when invaded Poland huh
@@drpastormartinssempa8994 Germany didn’t want white peace, it wanted to occupy tons of europe
@@number1kenyan you are mistaking the goals of communism versus national socialism.
There was about 8 or so attempts from the germans to make peace with European powers.
Do you know what the commenterm is and what its goals were?
It’s crazy a guy with all this knowledge still fell victim to drug addiction!Iam glad he got through it!
What knowledge? He is not displaying an especially good knowledge of history in this video as almost everything he says is wrong. Slave labour was an integral part of the concentration camp system and Hitler had extensive plans for a post-War Europe dominated by Nazi Germany.
What a pleasure must be to be one of his students.
Im a high school graduate and tbh this was the thing i was expecting from college.. i swear to god online classes are so boring ...this looks fun and hoping that i can learn like this..
I guess it depends on your teachers, then. My History and English teacher was still amazingly interesting online.
But yeah, I get it, irl is always better. I wish I could have had my first year "normally" as well. Will you get to go back to class this year?
Depends what you study. I studied a science degree and it was pure tedium
In person classes are boring when you have a boring teacher.
It’s pretty gruesome when you have a class on ww1 and ww2 when you have a professor like this. Tbh they get some sort of intellectual joy from learning and reading and understanding suffering. Rather than a focus on the good and positive, it honestly can be psychologically exhausting. There’s a lot of evil in this world, and a lot of good to balance it out. Never forget that. It’s all fun and games until they keep going into detail about how the details of trench warfare and how whole piles of bodies were just left to decompose.
@@Djt4848 one of my high school teachers went into extreme, gruesome detail about the holocaust, I literally almost passed out, and years later it still haunts me
I had one of those guys as a history and societal teacher during the upper secondary school in Sweden - years of like 16 to 18. He had the same disposition - the vivid talent to make history with its actors and structure perspectives to come alive. He put much emphesis to the students´ ability to challange him with own analysis than to just repeat him or the books for higher grades. Happy times!
Than what you had was a true teacher. Not a memorization of facts but a deep understanding of what happened
unfortunately, his version of history is not really the truth either, it just fit's his narrative. The Nazis did enslave the ones capable to work, they just did not spent any resources (e.g. food) on them and killed them once they were useless. Estimated 6-8 million people were forced into forced labor and for Jews and Synthi and Roma, the official strategy was "extermination through labor". Goebbels came up with this strategy and sold them to companies where they had a life expectancy of a couple month and the Reich made a lot of money from them. They even made a lot of money from the corpses. There are detailed cold blooded profitability analysis documents adding up profits of about 1500 Reichsmark and expenses like 2 Reichsmark for burning the corpse.
So of course he wanted to win, he assumed he could turn the tide until basically hours before he died and then he assumed that they all betrayed him. Like Trump, every failure by himself or one of his goons was interpreted by him as a personal attack or betrayal (typical narcissist). That doesn't mean he didn't want to win.
I had an awesome teacher aswell in Sweden during 16-18. Was it the same maybe? Did you attend Soltorg perhaps? :D
@@vanivari359 It’s a good point though I do wonder if it wouldn’t be strictly more rational to feed their working slaves just enough for them to continue working? Just expand into more camps and factories as you round more and more up. It’s incredibly cheap labor after all.
@@roobeert1992 Im afraid not. Did my upper secondary school in Västerås between like 2003-2006 or something.
How does an institution as old as the university, not churn out this high caliber of a professor as the norm?
Universities have been around for thousands of years, and Jordan is the exception, not the rule...
He was more good than you think
If you know you know, can't debate it with the masses they live on their spoonfed narratives and perceptions that are given to them
Man, imagine trying to date his daughter. LOL.
Ahaha she s beautiful btw
@@giuseppenhp8435 Drop dead gorgeous actually.
Somebody did and married her.
I’d try to date her just to have convos with this man anytime I could
@You take a sip from your Trusty Vault 13 canteen Who is Jordan alot? His name is Jordan Peterson, it's literally in the title.
And remember, a lot of people call this man a nazi.
I see very few people more against totalitarian regimes than Peterson. When you study psychology, you learn to accept that humanity has a dark side, and what terrible deeds get done when it is cut loose.
Some nutcase just wrote me like an entire essay about how Dr.Peterson is a nazi lol
@@beelzebootthecanadiandevil9600 Any chance and means you can send that to me? I love a good laugh.
He's definitely not a National Socialist. Just look at the pictures from inside his house. He has huge murals of Lenin and other Bolshevik revolutionaries covering the walls of almost every room of his house. That's why he does these nonsense "lectures" on AH that are nowhere close to the actual truth.
@@CommanderGeorgeLincolnRockwell
People like you are hilarious with your adorable little driveby arguments.
Where can we have a look inside JP's house since that's all we have to do and it's so simple?
I think it's safe to assume you're completely full of sh*t based on the second part of your ridiculous accusation.
@@CommanderGeorgeLincolnRockwell ew communism, that’s just as bad
The amount of trains and "logistical effort" that was diverted from helping the frontline into PERPETRATING THE HOLOCAUST was STAGGERING! Another thing that was staggering was the amount of Jewish & non-Jewish scientist - mathematicians (that could been codebrakers) - PHYSICISTS that could helped him in building new weapons (and I do not just mean NUKES - I mean - guns - better explosive materials, better alloys, more efficient aircrafts, etc., etc., etc.) ...all that is just MINDBLOWING. There is a big chance that had not Hitler engaged in the Holocaust, he could have won - now you obviously do not make History on "if-s" ...but that's a very reasonable assumption.
Q - HOW does Jordan know what we think? Pretty PRESUMPTIVE, wouldn't you agree?
considering how good his lectures are i can only imagine how difficult his exams are 🤯
On the contrary, I’d imagine his exams are a breeze considering how effective his teaching is. I actually had a professor of similar quality and I was able to pass with flying colors and never have to study once.
@@eMercody Exactly. I assume his tests are actually about how much you've learned, and not how much you remembered from a book you read last night.
@@eMercody - Same, I had a few instructors that were so effective that their tests were amazingly easy. That is how it should be. I also had an instructor that gave good lectures but these never once aligned with the exams - ever.
@@Cecilia-ky3uw - I imagine so. My instructors expected us to work together on homework, study, and preparation for tests. The collective power between everyone helps to insure good scores, high spirits, less stress, and a more successful student. However, some students refused to take advantage of everyone working in groups and those were the ones to usually get bad grades.
Another instructor would go through his material quickly. His class was limited to 3 hours per week and he had 6 hours of material to cover. His tests were pulled directly from his lectures and he would hint at would be on his test. Chances are not everyone was able to transcribe notes quickly enough so the expectation was for every student to come together and fill in the missing pieces to study. Those who did this always got good grades and those who didn't have difficulty passing the course. All the tools were made available, the student just had to learn to work with others and compile a complete note set to study in preparation.
I'd hate to grade his paper. Maps of meaning is near incomprehensible. Absolute word salad
“If you cannot understand why someone did something, look at the consequences-and infer the motivation.”
Carl Jung
Brilliant. Assuming, that is, that the consequences of an action are what the person intended them to be.
With as many variables as there are in wars and nations I'm not sure it's always best to apply this historically. I'm not entirely sure I buy Hitler wanted to lose the war and kill himself honestly
@@Smoddo It´s more of a subconscious thing. Power is an addictive thing, and in broken people that embrace their own issues instead of facing them leads to self-destructive behaviour.
@@rayra2772 but Peterson is saying Hitler consciously decided to kill rather than enslave, thus his motivation is not winning the war and becoming the most powerful man in the world and conqueer Europe. I just don't get why everyone think that's a genius take
Why could it not just as easily be incompetence of not being a good general, evil of wanting to kill people and jews in particular and a thirst to take over the entirety of Europe?
Also Hitler could have declared war instantly against the major powers but tried to snatch up as much territory as possible. If chaos and not winning was the goal why play it like that?
Or when they tried to make a secret peace with Britain?
Why is it instead more likely he wanted to lose war for Germany
And where does this outcome = motivation idea end. did Julius Caesar secretly wnat to be assassinated? Did China secretly want to be beaten by the Mongel empire? Did France and Netherlands hunger for German occupation?
@@Smoddo None of those things are mutually exclusive with each other. Let´s make a comparison: imagine winning the war is the equivalent of passing an important exam for a student; commiting to the mass genocide is the equivalent of procrastinating
Maybe this specific student isn´t the brightest guy out there and therefore even if he tried hard to study, he would still have serious issues to pass the exam anyways (aka incompetence), but even if this was the case, I think it doesn´t take rocket science to realize that procrastination is a waste of time, and yet, a lot of people still do it. Not because they don´t want to pass the exam, but because deep inside they would like to be doing something else instead of studying.
Now, extrapolate it to Hitler and WWII. Someone that gives deliberately more priority to procrastination than to passing the exam, maybe is someone that wants to do whatever they want to do and uses the excuse of making the exam so people don´t question him. Maybe this procrastinator could be deluded into his own lies, and he also believes he is trying to pass the exam when he isn´t, and that way he will be able to shut his own conscience when it starts questioning him too.
Just don´t underestimate the capacity of people for self-deception, specially when they have power.
Have you ever thought that Hitler acted just like if he was working for the allies?
interesting thought. I know the Brits used him, and the Nazis, because they wanted to tear down Stalin. Unfortunately, Hitler turned on the Brits, which led the Brits to freak out and wage war against Germany.
I have read books that say the war was about something totally different…
Thus, what WAS the war about? How was it something totally different?
@@samr.england613 there is a book by Robert Erwin Herzstein titled World War II.. He talks about what it was about and he has proof
This video enraged Adolf's father, who punished him severely.
Oversimplified😃
I’ve never heard anything regarding Hitlers parents and what his upbringing was like.
@@cam553 it's an oversimplified reference. Watch his videos, they're very entertaining.
Dude, Uncool
Lmao
"Some men just want to watch the world burn."
Just typed joker to the search bar and this came second.
Not hitler
Well said Michael Cain.
Wow, deep.
Volcanic apocalypse? I told you that shits not happenen
Listening to Doctor Peterson is like hearing the truth laid out in a way that you have to say, "Yeah, that makes sense..."
Doctor Peterson was wrong on the very first claim he makes in this video. Dude either did not read history, or pretends he didn't to suit his own narrative. Yeah, if you want the truth laid out, idk, maybe start somewhere other than someone who isn't even aware that the people in the concentration camps DID get enslaved and put to work, literally to death.
His brilliance is that he is connecting at the deepest level with everyone in that room..
Theres a profound quote i found that sums the Hitler experience in a different way from what we see. While we all put him on a pedestal, the horrific side of it is actually that many people involved allowed him to imolement his morbid idea, no matter his motivation. "Hitler could do nothing without the cooperation, support and willing submission od millions of people." The astonishment is not that a Hitler came along but that many others went along.
Edit: I appreciate all of yours understanding of my post and Im glad you're sharing your opinions and discussing it.
This is soft revisionism. It denies all of our extensive historical knowledge showing Hitler’s clear direct responsibility for, and direction of, the Holocaust. Why is this important? Because blame placed everywhere is blame placed nowhere.
The same can be said about Trump lol
@@scientifikx99 youre basically saying that instead of blaming everyone who is responsible, its best to pick one and just blame them. In doing so youre releasing thousands of others from their responsibility. Its liek having 5 people kill someone and they point finger at one of them saying "he made us do it". So now 4 of them runs free while only one is sentenced. Putting blame on other people is what is wrong with the society.
@@salimalbitar salim albitar That can be said for many people because we are very liable and easily manipulated to act a specific way eventho we think and feel differently. You can see that in examples of Isis and other terrorist org, Charles Manson and many other cults, Jim Jones and successfull Mass Suicides and so on. In all of this is obvious that one person holds the blame, yet thousands are involved. Making no action is action itself.
@@scientifikx99 the genocide side of it came much later on and that was from Hitler himself. But he got into power because of Versailles, the dire economic crisis and the lingering deep resentment from ww1 among the population.
stallin: when you kill more people but still don`t get recognized
MD who was that Chinese guy with the much larger K:D again?
James Bond Mao gay dong
MD probably because the US was allied with him during WW2.
Churchill: when you intentionally bomb civilian territory’s and wait an hour to do it again to nail soldiers who will be inevitably helping to save lives and extinguish flames and be remembered a “good guy”
Hakka So we were allied with the guy who's been friends with Hitler? That makes things worse.
'Snow and Seal Blubber"...the Inuit are stars ✨
0:32 that "fourth" was no accident. notice how he made no other mistakes like that in any of his other lectures.
"round em up fine, enslave them fine, but don't kill them" dude had me laughing with that 💀
@@Project_Algiz en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Solution
@@Project_Algiz imagine thinking anything on a piece of paper is more important than actions. Neville Chamberlain would like a word with you
@@Project_Algiz I don't know, maybe a little something called concentration camps rings a bell in you?
@@Project_Algiz Gas chambers, shooting in the head though before having them to dig up there own grave, experiments, etc
Our society stigmatizes the mentally ill... and rightfully so, these people are nuts!
This guy's got a firm grasp on how awful reality is
Lol
Jordan Peterson in every lecture:
"firmly grasp it!!"
Its true, people preach now that we are gonna create some utopia where everyone treats eachother fairly and we will all take car of eachother. It'll never happen. And honestly todays world is the nicest humanity has ever been by far. But humans are awful. Its only a matter of time until we start to destroy.
@@GuyFromTheSouth I see where you're coming from, but I don't believe this is the nicest people have ever been. It seems to me that social skills have hit the bottom of the barrel
@@tonyboleno8191 I completely agree
I had a history teacher like this once in high school. Was the only time I’ve ever paid attention in class; K-12 or college.
History has so much to teach, to gain a heart of wisdom, if only we are willing to listen.
"if you don't understand why something happens, look for the one who gets the profit"
Old jewish saying
"The famous Lucius Cassius, whom the Roman people used to consider the most truthful and wisest judge, often used to say in evaluating cases “who stood to profit” [cui bono fuisset]." Now, it's just said as "Cui bono." (Except for Cher, who said "Cya Bono.")
Out of the horses mouth itself lol
Guys do not reply to @Right Left he gets fucking happiness in doing so.
Just move on with your day he will go to hell when he dies and be able to meet his best friend hitler
@@omrr2096 who is the right left guy
@@rightleft2819 Let’s hear your side
Everytime I watch Mr Peterson, I feel like I walk away a little bit smarter, more informed and better equipped to understand others and myself, he’s the real deal.
exactly. He's a book of life but as a person
Yes sir. It's contagious.
True mate
Feelings are often misplaced. Chicks doing a women’s studies degree walk out of their lectures feeling like they just got a bit smarter too
Doctor Peterson*
Most people do not fight over natural resources, many civilizations and peoples have actually survived on little to no resources, but most people fight for bad reasons, for personal reasons that they’ve conjured up themselves, but also those that stem from social, cultural and economic dynamic factors & those are reasons as well.
In summary, don’t put crazy people in power.
Buzzfeed: *reads title*
“Hmmm… sounds like something a racist would say.”
P ppl
Ironically buzzfeed is one of the most racist and sexist sites. So I wouldnt be surprised if they assumed as much. 😂
He is looking at it through the psychological perspective to demonstrate how evil he was.
@@Joeri20cm ihi
Saying he’s racist sounds like something a racist would say!!!
Try starting your day for 1 year with the mentality that ….”everything I was taught was a lie” then use common sense examining the world around you and see if your opinion of your statement changes…
Remember 🧔🏻♂️ didn’t build oxyclean in a day!
Reminds me of my 11th grade History teacher Ms. Quarles. Just like him, she always had a way with teaching and making me want to learn more. Pure educators.
Rare individual. I can count on one hand with fingers broken how many teachers inspired me.
You know he's lying right? Lol
@@malcolmlittle7961 how do you know hes lying. Lol
@@Vader4499 He makes it seem as if Adolf Hitler was a genocidal maniac and his SS were a group of sadistic thugs. Nothing could be further from the truth and is a complete distortion of reality. The rabbit hole is deep my friend
7th grade Mr Stewart, history,1967 - or Mr Addy? Math, next year. Mrs Bethe 1972
My fave can still recall so many yrs past.
Pffffffttttttt roll with the mainstream narrative yeah
This is Peterson at his best: not commenting on what happened yesterday, but holding forth on the timeless stuff.
I'd give a kidney to be able to articulate ideas like this guy.
Joe Lackey go out there and practice.
Joe Lackey or you could just give one to save someone's life...
yelix2 not quite as good because if you could articulate your point of view that well you could probably convince anyone to donate one of their kidneys
I think you guys took this statement out of context.
Joe Lackey Well the value of a kidney translates into college tuition for some English classes, so there's a start
Every time he put his hand in his pocket I was waiting for him to give some candies to his students
LOL hahaha same. That or a prop to use.
No he's just touching the trophy from his latest kill
Someone is a fan of Patrick Jane.
Or fondling himself because he has a hole in his pocket
The one ring.
If Hitler felt he was about to lose the war, rushing to get the things done he felt were important makes sense.
That is such a good analogy. Hitler was frustrated with the Germans, first for failure in WWI. Again in WWII, Germany was so far advanced over everyone else in military weaponry and readiness loosing was inexcusable.
Other historians, thinkers, etc: "The reasons why the Nazis did what they did are vast and many."
Jordan Peterson: "Yeah, but maybe they were also just plain evil."
Adolf Hitler* - it's illogical to say that the reason why the 'average nazi' did bad shit was because they were evil. Some of them, yes. Others, because they were too afraid to oppose, they liked being the superior race and chose to ignore immorality, or perhaps because they believed the shit that Hitler was spewing to hide his true intentions (according to this guy).
I'm sure you know that already lol. Just wanted to put it out there.
@@des0163 everyone thinks they know. Where's that big red button for yours.. because it needs pressing.
@@des0163 Peterson actually does make a similar point to that in a different video.
"You think you'd rescue Anne Frank? Think again."
@@des0163 no...many in the German populationwere completely compliant and agreed with National Soc. Policies. Evil is in all hearts. You don't have to be a mass murderer to be evil, folks.
@@titianmom Which is actually what historians agree on today. History changed from the "the normal man did not know" narrative of the cold war to the "most accepted it and complied".
And you can actually see that in some quite funny ways. For example libraries.
If people buy Hitlers Mein Kampf the old "They bought it, to have it on the shelve!" excuse comes in very fast. But libraries lend them to you. Nobody put library books they lended up for show, especially since they are visibaily marked as library books.
People lend those books to read them. So we got to assume that people who got those books from libraries read them and knew what Hitler planned.
Turns out there were record highs in libraries lending out Hitlers Mein Kampf, so much that many libraries were short on the book and had to buy additional copies.
Anyone seeing accelerated mayhem in 2020?
Jonathan Trautman no
@@Morah_Veya yes
nah
@@Morah_Veya
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It always bothered me in the past, when I'd been studying history for years. Just that, it never came to mind, hitler actually wanted to cause as much damage as possible. So many illogical choices that lead to the fall of na&i germany.
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Search him up.. He's a famous intellectual
@brightsun singh You selling him?😅
Not sure why this guy thinks that's why Hitler lost the war. However after studying WWII for the last 40 myself and having extensive knowledge on this subject, Hitler lost the war for one reason and one reason only. And that reason was he took on the Russians in the east, whilst fighting the allies in the west. Not enough manpower for both, and not being equipped for the eastern front with limited resources, and his men didn't have the correct equipment in the east. This last part cost Hitler's army to lose vast amounts of men, and what equipment they had, which accelerated the loss of the war.
Having manpower in those concentration camps which was small in comparison to say an army, would not have been enough to cover both front's and those men and women did not have the equipment even if they had been sent to the front line.
So this in utter nonsense.
If it's one thing i do know it's my history on this war, and this war alone. I am also sure that this guy has not been looking over and studying this subject like i have for forty years or more. Hitler was not particularly evil himself. He didn't just wake up one day and think i know i will kill all these people in camps, no. His henchmen did that, they came to Hitler with these ideas and put them to him. Hitler put Germany back on track in the 1930's with rebuilding and putting people to work and giving them food, homes, jobs and a future to look forward too. However thing's went from bad to worse when the final solution was thought of, and Hitler wanted revenge for the loss of WW1.
I do think even though the guy is giving a talk and has the title of a professor, he should go away and look at the real event's that took place, like Hitler not taking the correct advice from his generals when thing's needed a generals advice to be followed. These thing's cost Hitler the war. Not a few thousand men in camps.
Worst thing of all here is, this guy is being listened too, and being paid for giving incorrect information, which distorts history in the teaching.
God help us.
so just a monologue?
@@patrickdoyle9369 you didnt get what he meant at all. Stick to history
Great points. For some people, causing the suffering of others is an end, not a means to an end.
So you’ve met my ex?
Racism in its purest form. We're seeing this same thing in America.
Great points? Where? Historically inaccurate nonsense...
@@freda2758 Please tell me more how so.
@@freda2758 The "racism", just wondering if you are you referring to Hitler, or the Jews?
Interesting argument however I think it leans more towards being afraid of loosing and trying to ensure the safety of the ideology by wiping out its enemies as much as possible to maximise the chances when a return happens. They had escape plans for a reason, wasn't just to hide. These people thought of themselves as the good guys presumably.
In my opinion, Peterson oversaw one important thing: if this is what certain Germans actually did, imagine how far they truly wanted to go! Imagine if there were no resource and political limits, imagine how cruel they would be! That would be humanly unthinkable.
Imagine why it still continues?
My pastor once said, “At the moment you realize someone is different than you and not a child of God that is the beginning of prejudice.”
imagine it just turns out he's Hitler reincarnated telling us how he should've done things in the first place.
joking aside this guy makes history even more fun, reminds me of the passion my history teacher had.
@Zoomerwaffen xx not in all cases, although it definitely holds truth to it
@@angrychuck6197 what?
And the most remarkable part about that is, this guy isn’t even teaching a history class.
@@angrychuck6197 Damn you got the whole squad laughing
@@angrychuck6197 😐SO FUNNY JOKE!
“If you can’t figure out what is the motivation of someone, look at the outcome, and infer the motivation...
Matthew 16 - Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
...A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
...Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Nice analysis
Yes! All truth comes from God.
False. Only just looking at the outcome puts the burden solely on what it ended in. If the confederacy won the civil war then the motivation of the conflict was to preserve slavery.
Yes christianity destroyed countless native civilizations
@@Ajourneyofknowing The motivation of the conflict was to preserve slavery. That was succinctly stated by the leaders of the confederacy who felt aggrieved by Lincoln's victory in 1860.
Well, at least the picture frame was really there
This is it. I’m a history nerd, and about a year or so ago I was looking at a lot of videos on WW2, and I remember this video popping into my recommended and going “oooh this ought to be interesting”. Little did I know at the time the journey this would start me down of viewing and understanding the world and now myself in a whole new lens, so to whomever it may concern….thank you.
I dunno how you can be a history nerd and not find this to be just absolutely shallow and incorrect in so many ways.
Watch the movie Down fall, you l enjoy
“If you can’t figure out what someone’s doing or why, look at the outcome, and infer the motivation.”
Wow. Crazy how much I align with this level of thinking. Great piece here, loved it.
Yes, Peterson just described himself. Why do you think he has a thousand YT videos? He's getting filthy rich by promoting political confrontation. Suckers!
Unfortunately stupid people will screw it up. If the outcome is I cut myself shaving, an intelligent person would infer that my motivation was to be clean shaven, but idiots will conclude my motivation was to cut myself.
Inference is the enemy of reason. This may the single most ill-advised quip Peterson has ever contrived. I suggest, if you can't figure out what someone is doing -- ask them. Injecting yet another layer of your own psychosis onto another's actions as a means to rationalize it is a display of narcissism.
This right here is why Jordan Peterson is a disgusting shill.
Totally wrong view about everything relating to WW2. Go back on your antidepressants, Jordy. Nobody wants to hear your hot takes on history.
If someone accidentally stumbles into domino and everything falls apart what about then?
Mao: when you killed a hundred million but the guy who killed twenty gets all the attention
mao kill 900 godzillion people
The difference is choices, mao made a choice that resulted in the deaths of millions. Hitler specifically had people killed
@@jrs351 So his ideas were genocidal by mistake? Somehow that isn't comforting.
@@jrs351 well, you can argue that the Great Leap Forward was a bunch of bad decision. But the Cultural Revolution was intentional
No dispute. No argument. But I believe intentionally slaughtering people is a minute difference then changing a culture and not caring if people died because of it. Neither were up for Nobel pace prizes and I would say they are different levels of evil
Palpatine did the same with operation cinder, waste of resources, but was his revenge on his own team for their weakness
It's not that it wasn't his goal. It's that he thought he could accomplish his goal and at the same time proceed with his "final solution" at the same time. He got to cocky, thanks to repeated success early in the war. If he had known the outcome, he'd have been more careful.