Updated calcs HERE: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Iu_TLkc2AxJeeEzBNp1mXrXUOb4wc2gRMSnm13K4dvM/pubhtml Corrected the shield values which were inflated. Original Transmorpher has around 7.3% less shield than 4 Star Stun W-Engines. Still, a small difference overall and no changes to any of the rankings. Caesar's shield was changed from 90 seconds on the Media Server to 60 seconds on Live. Not a big deal in practice.
Thanks for the good guide, and especially for the calculations. Why are the shield size calculations so big? Does her shield scale from the combat impact? It seemed to me that her shield scale from the base impact.
The impact on the original transmorfer doesn't apply to the shield because the shield scales with BASE impact and the original transmorfer is a buff so if what you want is more shield and don't have the signature, stun engines are the go to's for the moment
Caesar is Defense. So Vortex being Stun W-Engine will not work because they can not be triggered. Same goes with every other standard obtainable W-Engines you listed.
@@vergo1785 Kind of, but theres a chance they add a dedicated buffer that gives 2x more damage, which doesnt really exist in Genshin, but no longer giving the highest ATK buff would make her not Bennet
Wow the editing and the explanations in this guide are so much better than the other videos out there! Thank you for actually going over how she plays instead of just reading the in-game descriptions like other channels do.
@xxhopexx2002 I legit got soilder from the 50/50 🙇🏽♂️ I missed out on the physical team but it's okay the next dps units coming are going to be insane.
Interrupt immunity + shield literally ENABLES characters like Corin, Soldier and Piper on boss fights, where you lose half of your HP when your EX/combo ends.
godtier video man, good commentary, all this nice data and showcases. i feel like i can really make a decision off this, unlike a lot of other videos i've watched
I got Caesar at 30 pity after deciding to just drop a few pulls in, so I’m very happy for this guide because I had no idea what to do with her since I hadn’t paid attention… lol. Your guides have been incredibly helpful for figuring out how to play this game well, so thank you for all of your hard work!! I do have to say… a team with Jane could have a rat king pun in there somewhere…
Logged back into the game after a long time today, even got the returning player event. This character might be a good pull for me, because im just not very good at this game. A shield would be nice. I want to enjoy this game casually. Thanks for including razor language explanations for people like me.
her being good with S11 makes me so happy. I was very “unlucky” and everytime I have gotten a S-rank it was either S11 or her w-engine. So I have no limited S-rank but instead a very strong S11 and a guaranteed in 10 pulls
Just wanna say I appreciate your videos and the info you provide. Your speaking voice is not even remotely annoying which is such a petty but important aspect of any video for me. Thanks 🙏
Thank you for the guide, it was incredibly helpful as always! I pulled for her this morning, and Caesar is super broken. She really reminded me of Zhongli in Genshin Impact, because her shield is so strong, it turns the game into easy mode. I've got her at M1R1, and that first Mindscape makes a huge difference. As soon as she enters the field, she automatically creates a shield, which means you start every fight with a 3k+ renewable barrier. But that's not all! She also gives a damage buff, as well as 1k Attack power buff to the team. So Caesar is more like the best parts of Zhongli and Bennett combined into one super OP character. I can't recommend her more highly. Caesar is the first "must have" character in ZZZ.
I've been saving for her since the beginning of the game, I'm glad she's worth getting. Side note as a Sword and Shield main in monster hunter, I'm a sucker for any character that uses a sword and shield
She's a beast! I was messing up with the timing with her counter and I noticed I was taking very little damage against the bosses. It's pretty satisfyjng when you interrupt the heavy hitters too
Prydwen, my go to website for ZZZ guides, states that her shield is only scaled off of base impact. The original transmorpher gives combat impact. So it seems like if you don't have her signature W engine, its better to give her an A rank stun w-engine with Impact% stat. Don't give her steam oven tho, it has energy % stat. Give her demara battery, or fossilized core, since those have impact % as their stats. And if you have any of the S rank w engines, they will be be better, although I wouldn't recommend you prioritize giving caesar the S rank w engine over the stun agents, since its only like a 3% impact difference. Give her the S rank if its free, but otherwise the A ranks will get the job done.
not sure why i didn't sub to you when i came across your jane video but im subbed now. sometimes videos like this with way more info than i was wanting is what i need
Managed to save 140 pulls for Caesar, manage to get Caesar in 60. Also managed to get TWO Tusk of Fury (Her W-Engine) in 40 pulls. I now have 40 extra pulls left to save for Burnice!!!!!!! Thanks for this informative guide.
I'd keep them two tusks seperate as you might want a defense (+stun) unit on both sides of shiyu. Also grats, i got lucky too for once and she feels an awesome addition
Hey! First of all wanted to say thank you for that helpful Video. Sadly the Reason why i came here isn't really addressed in here or i was not able to catch it. So i would be happy if you or someone else could answer my Question! :D I want to play Jane with Burnice and now im thinking about putting a Ceasar or an Lucy at ''support role'' behind them. The thing why im thinking about Caesar is that her Buffs seem so much stronger than the Buffs Lucy gives. She gives 1000 ATK, 25% DMG taken Debuff on the Enemy and also 18% more DMG done plus another nice 12% more daze production for the whole team from her lc when someone does a perfect dodge. BUT and that's why im here is that someone on Reddit say'ed something i didn't knew. Caesar's 1000 ATK Buff is only for the Character on field, my Jane will be on field most of the Time i think but would you say cause its only for the on field Character Lucy is better for just supporting reasons cause Lucy's attack buff is for the whole team and her signature lc gives even more ATK. I also compared Caesars lc with Lucy and for me Caesar looks so much stronger but maybe im wrong? I mean you could say that always when Burnice goes on field to apply her passiv on the enemy she also has the 1000 ATK buff but the moment i let her doe off field DMG she loses that Buff. I need to say that i only play this game for like 2 weeks and besides Jane doesn't have much character. I don't have Caesar nor Lucy neater. xD Also which Boo would you advice? Im thinking about using that Red Moccus cause his stats are looking so much stronger also him bringing the most far away enemy to you seems just so nice. I also don't get Anomaly Boo's that much, i saw an Video where the RUclipsr told us that the Anomaly Trigger bar saves the DMG the Character does and if someone else break the bar but aren't the one who did the most DMG on the enemy, the anomaly break will be do much less DMG so why should i put a anomaly boo in the team when the anomaly boo not even buffs the Character, it only buffs the boo's chain attacks. But maybe i just don't get something important cause of my less play Time in this Game! Hopefully you see this, thanks in advance! :)
@@paapa-kofiagyekum1814 what are you talking about? it means that each character can use their ult now, and has to build them up individually. some characters have TERRIBLE decibel generation, which means for the update to work, decibel generation for certain units is going to drastically improve, dont just make assumptions.
@@Laoruperteen18 good luck building up 3k decibels on a character that doesn't even have that much field time lmao. If you think they're going to tweak a custom build up rate for every single agent instead of focusing their attention on grander aspects of the game you're nuts.
@@ayayron8221 It isn’t confirmed that their decibel buildup is going to be separate, only that their burst activation is. Chances are that teammates can still gain the same amount of decibels after completing an action at any stage of refilling their ultimate
Just got her and couldn‘t be more happy about her release. She makes me actually wanna experiment with my cast and level up characters i was neglecting till now (neko and soldier in particular)
in my testing, Caeser has been a great replacement for soukaku in my ellen team. Reason being: you get the same attack buff, but the on field time is reduced to less than a tenth of soukakus time, and she also provides anti-interrupt for ellen's charged attacks and combo finishers, meaning you don't ever have to redo them if you get hit while charging/channeling, so you have ellen's stacks up more reliably and your effective DPS goes up since you never have to stop hitting them. Faster stun time with double impact characters is also great because you get to have Lycaon's stun damage multiplier up more frequently. Alternatively, I've also tried soukaku, caeser, and ellen, since my ellen is pure crit+pen. Having a +2000 attack buff when you maximize all the stats that multiply your attack damage is extremely potent, and I've gotten up to 60k damage hits with the build without the enemy being stunned.
One thing that you forgot to talk about S11 is the interrupt resistance. S11 suffers A LOT with being interrupted during her combo and Caesar finally solves thid problem without needing t get her mindcaspe. Just the interrupted resistance alone is a gigantic buff for her and will increase her damage output A LOT
Ceaser king is now my one and only king. Put her on a team w just Jane doe and it’s wildly broken. Stun and activate buffs/debuffs w ceaser and go wild with Jane until out of passion. The fact that they are both physical is just a cherry on top.
17:16 it'll be even better when we get Burnice, Jane Doe - Caesar - Burnice is going to be a crazy team. Also the Sons of Calydon Bangboo is pretty good, it has a high daze multiplier and provides grouping, so that's an upgrade to the team over Officer Cui.
Just got her Sig W-Engine in 14 pulls. I was expecting to exhaust all of my 60+ pulls but damn, I’m so lucky in this game lmao. Now to save up for Lighter/Miyabi!
Not sure I understand the logic that getting 5 Original Transmorphers is somehow more f2p friendly than 1 A rank stun WEngine to level 60. I'm even able to do most of critical node in shiyu defense and even then getting 30 puzzle pieces takes a long time; and I don't think f2p guides should be assuming players can reliably clear shiyu defense in the first place. Personally I'll be saving my puzzle pieces for the main DPSes who benefit the most from them so my Ceasar will just have a 4* stun WEngine I think. Great guide though, you're doing great work with the calculations so everyone can make the most informed decisions for their account.
get puzzle pieces from doing the weekly bosses. i have like 30 puzzle pieces and ive never gone past like, stage four in the seasonal shiyue defense. it's like a 4% overall difference between rank 5 and rank 1 anyway.
@@AlexShepherd-v1p Weekly boss drops give you 0-1 per run, so that's ideally 1.5 per week, but in my experience the drop rate seems lower than that, though I admit I haven't pulled the data. If you can do all of critical node that's an extra 3 per ~15 days (
As a F2P, I'm hesitant to pull for Caesar, notably because of how cool the 1.3 characters seem... But hearing how she amps up Jane aswell as S11’s dmg so much I feel obligated to get her. I never thought I might actually seriously use my S11 when I already have Ice premium + Jane with sig. But then I got her sig, and now with Caesar’s release, I really want to see what she's capable of.
She's so fun and good. Stunning better than my Lycaon and buffing better than my Soukaku. And she even does some good dmg. Don't even get me started with the shield. That thing makes the game 100x better with characters like Jane, Soldier, Billy, Nekomata. No regrets of getting her and her wengine. 1000atk buff, 58% dmg increase debuff on enemies, crowd-control and absurdly broken shield. Absolutely the best character in the game so far
I don,t care what people say if she is in a weird spot for meta....this charecter is awsome...plus thr flexibility on her additional passive to makes her have long value since she can be parried with anyone with a diffensive assit
I lost to Soldier 11 in the 50/50 when I was first pulling for Caesar, then I pulled her... and now I see S11 was a good teammate after all. A failed 50/50 became a success lol
She seems ver good for people that are worse with dodging and completely optional as stunner/support for current best team comps. I take that as a Win since I dont like units that are so good that feel like must pull. Will probably wait for Lighter kit and decide who to pick since he is dedicated fire stunner and survivability is no problem for me.
I was sold on your video and decided to pull for Caesar for my M1 S11 M6 Lucy team, i was at 19 pulls to get S rank on featured banner, did a 10 pull but got Lycaon, i thought on quitting but decided to keep pulling...Got her literally in that 2nd 10 pull, then went to get her weapon since mind you i already had 22k polys saved at the start of the pulling session...Did 1 ten pull got 1 Anton, did another 10 pull and 3 FREAKING S RANK LOGOS APPEARED, I LEGIT SCREAMED! THEN ALL OF THEM WERE SIGNATURED WENGINE ONE AFTER THE OTHER. LETS FUCKING GOOOOO!!! at W3 it gives 27% dmg bonus and 18% more stun, broken as fuked. Liked and subscribed for that m8
Original transmorpher is not that good on her cuz her shields is based on her "base" impact stat not including additive so a stun engine with an impact stat will be better
Plays like Beidou, shields like Zhongli, buffs like Bennett, and groups like Kazuha. This is how you spell op. But now I'm torn between saving for Burnice or getting Caesar's weapon
Good luck to all fellow King wisher! May ZZZ God bless you with m6 in just one 10 summon :) Especially my fellow Billy Mains! Now we have a worthy "Queen" beside our King. :D
The W-engine situation with her is really offputting. Why not make an event to give her a f2p one that has atleast the correct mainstat if these are the options we get ?
@@acuilnos how TF does that matter. It's not like you are less special counters due to lack of energy from using a shitty engine You are just having a case of fomo . Caesar,s impact on your account is 0.1% affected by not having a good f2p engine. Just use a stun engine that we can craft for free . Bro is acting like it's acheron from HSR where you need s5 gnsw or sig lightcon or else she sucks
@@shariqueraza4409 Nah, I just think that the defense W Engine situation makes the characters more unappealing. I'm well aware that they're still viable with other class engines but that doesn't change the fact that it's designed to make you want to pull for her signature. That and I just like Burnice a lot more, Caesar may be good but I'm likely going to skip her because she doesn't really excite me that much from a gameplay and character standpoint.
@@acuilnos wdym . The sig engine literally doesn't change anything for caesar . The extra daze and few% team dmg is nowhere as impactful as a typical sig w engine for a dps . Burnice without sig engine feels way worse compared to Caesar without engine . You have just built up this wall of pointless excuse to skip caesar . If you like burnice go get her but mental gymnastics to convince yourself of skipping and typing on internet is weird . Just say I want both and but I can only get one of them , then i would rather get burnice over caesar. It's that simple .
She is SS top1 character easly. Buffs insane, can be in any team (pick any dps you like), add a stick lucy (for ceasar buff - or other support) and check results. She is OP at M0 - no need to even go for M1. Start the fight with her, do few attack + and switch (or add hold attack if her weapon). O P. Weapon is nice addition but not super needed.
So happy finally got her. As a f2p who doesnt really have limited dps beside Ellen, now I can finally elevate my Soldier 11. At least it also help ease my pain from previously not getting Jane
Caesar is my reason, why i came in ZZZ at first place. I save up to 80000 polycromes just for her. Now cant wait to finish download the update an roll all out on her, to one main goal. Making her as a number 1 dps in game! I have one plan, one faith and one way to go, to at least, try it! This is the way. I see waifu. I Build waifu. I make her number 1! XD
As a fellow sons of colydon fan and collector, I wish you luck, friend. As for the people who said he is lying. I think he just exaggerated what he wanted to say. For f2p, if I'm not wrong, 350 to 400 pulls is the current limit, which is around 64k or 640000. If my guy bought the monthly pass and battle pass and some currency here and there, I think he should be around 75k, and he probably just exaggerated up to 80000. Regardless, good luck to my homies on pulling the king😂
@@dreameisters i record video with her gameplay when i back home. For this build need M4, one special group and dps build. For now i just cant go to the game, but it feels like Dante ROYAL GUARD - from DMC.
Congrats! First 30 pulls over here! Wasn’t even planning to pull for her but figured ‘why not?’ I was gonna make forty pulls and then just wait for Burnice but then boom!, Caesar
All of my friends are trying to skip her and get burnice but after some patches they'll just wait for her rerun because enemies will interrupt their combos and they'll never say just dodge😂
Reasons why I'm NOT skipping her: 1.On Genshin Impact I skipped out on getting Zhongli when he first came out. Ever since, I haven't been able to get him on reruns and i've been suffering for it. Especially since I run Arataki Itto. 2. On Honkai Star rail, I thought about skipping aventurine because I disliked his personality and character. I didn't even use follow up attack teams...but, his shield looked pretty nice. So I did one multi before his banner went away. Won the 50/50. And now, he's a god send on my feixiao team. 3. I skipped Qingyi because I don't care for her character. I skipped Jane doe because she's too much of a thirst character. Caeser was someone who I was looking for. Badass Biker Babe. That and I main Sword and Shield In monster hunter. So, she hit all the marks as someone who I wanted. Went to Pity. Lost the 50/50 to Nekomiya. (Silver lining is that I didn't have her before and she goes great with Caeser). Went to Pity AGAIN and got her. So far, she's been one of the most fun characters to use. Lycoan is my favorite because I love kick-boxing and he's cool ASF. She's easily my second favorite character. But definitely #1 "Waifu" character for me. Burnice looks cool too. But Caesar has too much of that "Warrior" vibe that I like. Overall. I love everything about this character and i'm thankful you made a comprehensive guide on her. Been using her on literally every team since. Even sometimes as a main damage dealer because BOY can she hit hard lol
She basically is a mix of Ben + Soukaku + Stunner. - Ben's parrying mechanic and shield - Soukaku's 1,000 atk buff - Her use of Impact as her shield means she can replace the stunner's role She is a buffer + debuffer + shielder + stunner???? Wow she is overtuned!! You can use her in any team because she has decent daze which means you're fine not using a stunner. She can replace the support because she literally does Soukaku's buff + debuff. And she does Ben's job better with her shielding. She's busted af!! That makes me wonder how they'll handle future characters. If Caesar is already overtuned like this, the only way they can market/sell a new defense agent is to make them stronger (hence the powercreep problem).
Wait, hear me out! What if we go full def% on disc 4&5 + substats and then use big cylinder? Probably still bad, but might be fun to try out. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I wasn't planning on pulling on her, then i did the story quest liked her story and her gameplay and also she's hot, well im low in funds for Burnice and yanagi hopefully id get lucky
Do you think that burnice would be a better pair with soldier 11 than caesar? Keeping up in mind that burnice will allow the 4-piece inferno set to proc way more, and maybe ligther will give buffs ass well?
Wait, does W-Engine effect of Original Transmorpher considered as base impact for her shield? If not, then the shield ratio shouldn't be 100% same as Stun W-Engine right?
Didn’t plan to pull for her, because I want Burnice really hard so I didn’t look at Ceaser’s kit, I know myself. Well, today I looked at it and guess what, I was right not looking at it for so long now I want her
You too? Dang! I got her at 10 pulls and her wengine in 3 pulls. I'm so happy. I created a second account that sits on 60k+ poly and 80+ limited master tapes and counting for section 6 esp Yanagi but I tried my luck in Caesar bc my only main is Piper and Piper is under her banner.
I admit Zenless build is quite a total mystery for me because of mechanics I don't understand. For exemple here : Why is Impact favored on disk 6 in most of cases ? And why not an Anomaly mastery when mostly playing with Jane (in my case) ? And the same goes for 2pieces disk type and proxy Engines... But having just a few problems with Shiyu Defense, make me think, if not ultimates, a build of character is rather floppy than carved in stone. The problem is investing in unappropriate engines or disk sets... as I already did. ^^
Vey nice video! However I would love it even more if you showcases Caesar against enemies who dont attack too often or dont use attacks that trigger defensive assists like big Mechs or Nibeveh even just a little bit.
"Hey it would be awesome, if you showed the character, who protects against attacks with an enemy, who doesn't attack very often, so you don't actually have a lot to show us." Masses of pixels staring at each other for 10 minutes. Just imagine. Peak content. People clearly don't see the genius behind this. I hope the sarcasm was clear.
I see she's good! But I want to pull for lighter too, do you think they'll work together???? I mean theyre from the same team but still a shield and a stunner...
Updated calcs HERE: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Iu_TLkc2AxJeeEzBNp1mXrXUOb4wc2gRMSnm13K4dvM/pubhtml
Corrected the shield values which were inflated. Original Transmorpher has around 7.3% less shield than 4 Star Stun W-Engines. Still, a small difference overall and no changes to any of the rankings.
Caesar's shield was changed from 90 seconds on the Media Server to 60 seconds on Live. Not a big deal in practice.
Stun W-Engines have somewhat significantly greater shields than Original Transmorpher which should probably be emphasized
Thanks for the good guide, and especially for the calculations.
Why are the shield size calculations so big? Does her shield scale from the combat impact? It seemed to me that her shield scale from the base impact.
The impact on the original transmorfer doesn't apply to the shield because the shield scales with BASE impact and the original transmorfer is a buff so if what you want is more shield and don't have the signature, stun engines are the go to's for the moment
Caesar is Defense. So Vortex being Stun W-Engine will not work because they can not be triggered. Same goes with every other standard obtainable W-Engines you listed.
@@rubberspoon It works, it just doesn't activates the pasive, wich in this case we really don't care because of lack of better option
Aventurine taught me a lesson to never underestimate a shield character. Caesar gonna be permanent in my time forever now xD.
Skill issue, I clear all content without aventurine or Caesar
@@Aman-km6cv looks like your own problem
@@idkwhatnametoput.Kpop avatar? Opinion disregarded. Zenless is not the game for you, bud
@@crazyfox2121 are all the americans really brainless?
@@Aman-km6cvcooll...so anyway
so she's the Zhongli of ZZZ I see
If zhongli has a permanent bennett atk buff.
@@vergo1785 Kind of, but theres a chance they add a dedicated buffer that gives 2x more damage, which doesnt really exist in Genshin, but no longer giving the highest ATK buff would make her not Bennet
Zhongli shield and debuff + Bennet attack + kazuha cc
better then zhongli and bennet combine😂 except no heals
@@7cycles413 but also not stuck in a circle so still better than both combined ;)
Wow the editing and the explanations in this guide are so much better than the other videos out there! Thank you for actually going over how she plays instead of just reading the in-game descriptions like other channels do.
Some of the worst pulls of my life but I got her and her engine.
Everything for my que- King
Same here. All those chromes but its cool cause i got a physical unit now. Lighter next
I lost the Jane doe 50/50 😅
Same I lost to soldier 11 but I was able to get her and her weapon plus the little Piggy Bangboo
@xxhopexx2002 I legit got soilder from the 50/50 🙇🏽♂️ I missed out on the physical team but it's okay the next dps units coming are going to be insane.
I’m so sorry for your pain, I however do not claim this energy 😭😭
Interrupt immunity + shield literally ENABLES characters like Corin, Soldier and Piper on boss fights, where you lose half of your HP when your EX/combo ends.
The irony that all the other f2p defense W-Engines just aren’t that great for her that even stun W-Engines are competitive for her best f2p option.
Does her shield strength scales with her Impact stat too?
@@Zelphyn
Yes, her shield scales directly with her impact stat.
That’s also just for now too, there will be other Impact substat defense W.engines down the road.
Do you know what irony means?
Boy am I glad that I managed to pull her and her Engine with just 12000 polychrome.
godtier video man, good commentary, all this nice data and showcases. i feel like i can really make a decision off this, unlike a lot of other videos i've watched
I got Caesar at 30 pity after deciding to just drop a few pulls in, so I’m very happy for this guide because I had no idea what to do with her since I hadn’t paid attention… lol. Your guides have been incredibly helpful for figuring out how to play this game well, so thank you for all of your hard work!!
I do have to say… a team with Jane could have a rat king pun in there somewhere…
Jane and caesars feet 😋
Logged back into the game after a long time today, even got the returning player event.
This character might be a good pull for me, because im just not very good at this game. A shield would be nice. I want to enjoy this game casually. Thanks for including razor language explanations for people like me.
her being good with S11 makes me so happy. I was very “unlucky” and everytime I have gotten a S-rank it was either S11 or her w-engine. So I have no limited S-rank but instead a very strong S11 and a guaranteed in 10 pulls
Oh hey, my account's like that but with Grace! Fellow "forced main" lmao
"It should have been me not him! It's not fair!"
my account also, but with rina XD
94 pulls for Caesar and her W Engine, finally in my team!!!!
Now trying to get as many pulls as possible for Burnice.
Just wanna say I appreciate your videos and the info you provide. Your speaking voice is not even remotely annoying which is such a petty but important aspect of any video for me. Thanks 🙏
Thank you for the guide, it was incredibly helpful as always!
I pulled for her this morning, and Caesar is super broken.
She really reminded me of Zhongli in Genshin Impact, because her shield is so strong, it turns the game into easy mode.
I've got her at M1R1, and that first Mindscape makes a huge difference. As soon as she enters the field, she automatically creates a shield, which means you start every fight with a 3k+ renewable barrier.
But that's not all! She also gives a damage buff, as well as 1k Attack power buff to the team. So Caesar is more like the best parts of Zhongli and Bennett combined into one super OP character.
I can't recommend her more highly. Caesar is the first "must have" character in ZZZ.
I've been saving for her since the beginning of the game, I'm glad she's worth getting.
Side note as a Sword and Shield main in monster hunter, I'm a sucker for any character that uses a sword and shield
this is a very good guide
wait is the update out now?
@@hatsune_miko_fan_1 yes
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As charge blade main I'm happy I pulled Caesar cuz guard point mechanics is the last thing i expected in ZZZ
Very helpful video. I love how flexible Caesar has been. I use her in so many teams.
She's a beast! I was messing up with the timing with her counter and I noticed I was taking very little damage against the bosses.
It's pretty satisfyjng when you interrupt the heavy hitters too
Prydwen, my go to website for ZZZ guides, states that her shield is only scaled off of base impact. The original transmorpher gives combat impact. So it seems like if you don't have her signature W engine, its better to give her an A rank stun w-engine with Impact% stat.
Don't give her steam oven tho, it has energy % stat. Give her demara battery, or fossilized core, since those have impact % as their stats. And if you have any of the S rank w engines, they will be be better, although I wouldn't recommend you prioritize giving caesar the S rank w engine over the stun agents, since its only like a 3% impact difference. Give her the S rank if its free, but otherwise the A ranks will get the job done.
But I think additional daze% from her sig is really good. Since its affect all teammates. Stunning enemies is way way faster
@@lukea9343 yeah, that's why it's her signature? It's best in slot for her. If you don't have signature, then give her a impact% stun wengine
not sure why i didn't sub to you when i came across your jane video but im subbed now. sometimes videos like this with way more info than i was wanting is what i need
Managed to save 140 pulls for Caesar, manage to get Caesar in 60. Also managed to get TWO Tusk of Fury (Her W-Engine) in 40 pulls. I now have 40 extra pulls left to save for Burnice!!!!!!! Thanks for this informative guide.
I'd keep them two tusks seperate as you might want a defense (+stun) unit on both sides of shiyu. Also grats, i got lucky too for once and she feels an awesome addition
Hey! First of all wanted to say thank you for that helpful Video.
Sadly the Reason why i came here isn't really addressed in here or i was not able to catch it. So i would be happy if you or someone else could answer my Question! :D
I want to play Jane with Burnice and now im thinking about putting a Ceasar or an Lucy at ''support role'' behind them. The thing why im thinking about Caesar is that her Buffs seem so much stronger than the Buffs Lucy gives. She gives 1000 ATK, 25% DMG taken Debuff on the Enemy and also 18% more DMG done plus another nice 12% more daze production for the whole team from her lc when someone does a perfect dodge. BUT and that's why im here is that someone on Reddit say'ed something i didn't knew. Caesar's 1000 ATK Buff is only for the Character on field, my Jane will be on field most of the Time i think but would you say cause its only for the on field Character Lucy is better for just supporting reasons cause Lucy's attack buff is for the whole team and her signature lc gives even more ATK. I also compared Caesars lc with Lucy and for me Caesar looks so much stronger but maybe im wrong? I mean you could say that always when Burnice goes on field to apply her passiv on the enemy she also has the 1000 ATK buff but the moment i let her doe off field DMG she loses that Buff.
I need to say that i only play this game for like 2 weeks and besides Jane doesn't have much character. I don't have Caesar nor Lucy neater. xD
Also which Boo would you advice? Im thinking about using that Red Moccus cause his stats are looking so much stronger also him bringing the most far away enemy to you seems just so nice. I also don't get Anomaly Boo's that much, i saw an Video where the RUclipsr told us that the Anomaly Trigger bar saves the DMG the Character does and if someone else break the bar but aren't the one who did the most DMG on the enemy, the anomaly break will be do much less DMG so why should i put a anomaly boo in the team when the anomaly boo not even buffs the Character, it only buffs the boo's chain attacks. But maybe i just don't get something important cause of my less play Time in this Game!
Hopefully you see this, thanks in advance! :)
Her Ult might become really usefull when ult points are not shared anymore
They aren’t shared anymore?? That’s a huge nerf wtf
The thing is if they have separate Ult, the enemy will be more tankier
@@paapa-kofiagyekum1814 what are you talking about? it means that each character can use their ult now, and has to build them up individually.
some characters have TERRIBLE decibel generation, which means for the update to work, decibel generation for certain units is going to drastically improve, dont just make assumptions.
@@Laoruperteen18 good luck building up 3k decibels on a character that doesn't even have that much field time lmao. If you think they're going to tweak a custom build up rate for every single agent instead of focusing their attention on grander aspects of the game you're nuts.
@@ayayron8221 It isn’t confirmed that their decibel buildup is going to be separate, only that their burst activation is. Chances are that teammates can still gain the same amount of decibels after completing an action at any stage of refilling their ultimate
Just got her and couldn‘t be more happy about her release. She makes me actually wanna experiment with my cast and level up characters i was neglecting till now (neko and soldier in particular)
jesus man you provide details by details kudos to your work I've watched all 30 minutes
after going to pitty twice for jane, caesar came home in one 10 pull. the jane caesar and burnice dream is alive
Won my 1st/4 50/50s while watching this, praise the lord 😩🙏
Gratz, man. I freaking lost yet again. My luck is out the shitter. Losing every single 50/50 since release.
Ceasar's sheild's lasts 60 seconds now. Not 90.
Its been nerfed since the beta early access servers.
They reverted it it’s still 90
@@kingtoaster4862 well, it seems that they re-reverted it and its 60 now, i just checked her skill description and tested it in VR
@@kingtoaster4862 it's 60. but even then, 60sec is broken enough.
oh, no I have to activate it maybe 2 whole times now.
60 is still too damn long btw
So glad to see some ZZZ guides from you bro
She's basically the zzz zhongle
in my testing, Caeser has been a great replacement for soukaku in my ellen team. Reason being: you get the same attack buff, but the on field time is reduced to less than a tenth of soukakus time, and she also provides anti-interrupt for ellen's charged attacks and combo finishers, meaning you don't ever have to redo them if you get hit while charging/channeling, so you have ellen's stacks up more reliably and your effective DPS goes up since you never have to stop hitting them. Faster stun time with double impact characters is also great because you get to have Lycaon's stun damage multiplier up more frequently. Alternatively, I've also tried soukaku, caeser, and ellen, since my ellen is pure crit+pen. Having a +2000 attack buff when you maximize all the stats that multiply your attack damage is extremely potent, and I've gotten up to 60k damage hits with the build without the enemy being stunned.
One thing that you forgot to talk about S11 is the interrupt resistance. S11 suffers A LOT with being interrupted during her combo and Caesar finally solves thid problem without needing t get her mindcaspe. Just the interrupted resistance alone is a gigantic buff for her and will increase her damage output A LOT
Amazing vid, tysm for the info.
Def using my guarantee on Caesar
Ceaser king is now my one and only king. Put her on a team w just Jane doe and it’s wildly broken. Stun and activate buffs/debuffs w ceaser and go wild with Jane until out of passion. The fact that they are both physical is just a cherry on top.
I got her at 80 pull, but just after, got a koleda in the same 10 pulls, so my next 5* is safe!
Now I'll try to get her w-engine
“Now we’re getting to the nerdiest part of the video” YOU MEAN THE OTHER STUFF WASNT ??? I’m cooked in this game bro
17:16 it'll be even better when we get Burnice, Jane Doe - Caesar - Burnice is going to be a crazy team. Also the Sons of Calydon Bangboo is pretty good, it has a high daze multiplier and provides grouping, so that's an upgrade to the team over Officer Cui.
Just got her Sig W-Engine in 14 pulls. I was expecting to exhaust all of my 60+ pulls but damn, I’m so lucky in this game lmao. Now to save up for Lighter/Miyabi!
I already got her and her W-Engine, thanks for the guide😃
Absolutely fantastic video as always!
Hoyo really just looked at (post buffs) Zhongli and said," yeah, let's do that again"
Got her on my 78th and my last encrypted tape. Now I can rest easy phew
thank you for including the Stun w-engines, I thought it was just me thinking "can't any character technically use any w-engine?" lol
Top tier video man, something to aspire too
Not sure I understand the logic that getting 5 Original Transmorphers is somehow more f2p friendly than 1 A rank stun WEngine to level 60. I'm even able to do most of critical node in shiyu defense and even then getting 30 puzzle pieces takes a long time; and I don't think f2p guides should be assuming players can reliably clear shiyu defense in the first place. Personally I'll be saving my puzzle pieces for the main DPSes who benefit the most from them so my Ceasar will just have a 4* stun WEngine I think.
Great guide though, you're doing great work with the calculations so everyone can make the most informed decisions for their account.
get puzzle pieces from doing the weekly bosses. i have like 30 puzzle pieces and ive never gone past like, stage four in the seasonal shiyue defense.
it's like a 4% overall difference between rank 5 and rank 1 anyway.
@@AlexShepherd-v1p Weekly boss drops give you 0-1 per run, so that's ideally 1.5 per week, but in my experience the drop rate seems lower than that, though I admit I haven't pulled the data. If you can do all of critical node that's an extra 3 per ~15 days (
Just started and got lycoan in 30 pulls and The King in 10
Good start is an understatement XD XD
Supports are king, Caesar even has it in her name
i love your content so much and you just got a new sub !
She's so good. Shielder, support and stunner in one package!
OMG I FORGOT IT WAS THE UPDATE TODAYYY
Same here 😂😂😂😂
Do you even play ZZZ if you had no idea 😅
I play it on and off
Fr same I logged in and I saw everything changed and new stuff added im like oh sh*t😂
Some of us are sad and don't care because we lost the 50/50 on Jane doe lol😅
As a F2P, I'm hesitant to pull for Caesar, notably because of how cool the 1.3 characters seem...
But hearing how she amps up Jane aswell as S11’s dmg so much I feel obligated to get her.
I never thought I might actually seriously use my S11 when I already have Ice premium + Jane with sig. But then I got her sig, and now with Caesar’s release, I really want to see what she's capable of.
She's so fun and good. Stunning better than my Lycaon and buffing better than my Soukaku. And she even does some good dmg. Don't even get me started with the shield. That thing makes the game 100x better with characters like Jane, Soldier, Billy, Nekomata. No regrets of getting her and her wengine. 1000atk buff, 58% dmg increase debuff on enemies, crowd-control and absurdly broken shield. Absolutely the best character in the game so far
Got the 180 stocked for burnice so we kept pulling every 10 extra we earned and now scored a Ceaser! Shweet.
I don,t care what people say if she is in a weird spot for meta....this charecter is awsome...plus thr flexibility on her additional passive to makes her have long value since she can be parried with anyone with a diffensive assit
I lost to Soldier 11 in the 50/50 when I was first pulling for Caesar, then I pulled her... and now I see S11 was a good teammate after all.
A failed 50/50 became a success lol
She seems ver good for people that are worse with dodging and completely optional as stunner/support for current best team comps. I take that as a Win since I dont like units that are so good that feel like must pull. Will probably wait for Lighter kit and decide who to pick since he is dedicated fire stunner and survivability is no problem for me.
I was sold on your video and decided to pull for Caesar for my M1 S11 M6 Lucy team, i was at 19 pulls to get S rank on featured banner, did a 10 pull but got Lycaon, i thought on quitting but decided to keep pulling...Got her literally in that 2nd 10 pull, then went to get her weapon since mind you i already had 22k polys saved at the start of the pulling session...Did 1 ten pull got 1 Anton, did another 10 pull and 3 FREAKING S RANK LOGOS APPEARED, I LEGIT SCREAMED! THEN ALL OF THEM WERE SIGNATURED WENGINE ONE AFTER THE OTHER. LETS FUCKING GOOOOO!!! at W3 it gives 27% dmg bonus and 18% more stun, broken as fuked. Liked and subscribed for that m8
You can't be serious. I have played Gacha games for the past 4 years and I've never pulled 2 5*/S-Rank characters/weapons. I am jealous now :(
Wow so lucky! Need to get some luck from you! Im currently at 60+ish pity
Original transmorpher is not that good on her cuz her shields is based on her "base" impact stat not including additive so a stun engine with an impact stat will be better
I got Caeser, Lucy, and Piper as my current team, and also cause I am a sucker for themes, and it works pretty well.
Plays like Beidou, shields like Zhongli, buffs like Bennett, and groups like Kazuha. This is how you spell op.
But now I'm torn between saving for Burnice or getting Caesar's weapon
Good luck to all fellow King wisher! May ZZZ God bless you with m6 in just one 10 summon :) Especially my fellow Billy Mains!
Now we have a worthy "Queen" beside our King. :D
Gosh I love her design so much... She's so cool!!
She can do high damage too with counter and assault by equipping 4x physical sets
"Maid Kidnapped by Gang" OMG hahahahaha that maked my day lol.
Had my S rank guarantee at 57 and got her on my first 10 pull
raaaah cant wait to get s11 from the selector, caesar lucy team lets goooo
The W-engine situation with her is really offputting. Why not make an event to give her a f2p one that has atleast the correct mainstat if these are the options we get ?
Agreed, it's one of the main reasons I feel like skipping her for Burnice.
@@acuilnos how TF does that matter. It's not like you are less special counters due to lack of energy from using a shitty engine
You are just having a case of fomo . Caesar,s impact on your account is 0.1% affected by not having a good f2p engine.
Just use a stun engine that we can craft for free . Bro is acting like it's acheron from HSR where you need s5 gnsw or sig lightcon or else she sucks
@@shariqueraza4409 Nah, I just think that the defense W Engine situation makes the characters more unappealing. I'm well aware that they're still viable with other class engines but that doesn't change the fact that it's designed to make you want to pull for her signature.
That and I just like Burnice a lot more, Caesar may be good but I'm likely going to skip her because she doesn't really excite me that much from a gameplay and character standpoint.
The game is just new, there will be tons of free W-engines, they can't just provide free W-engines for each and every character at once.@@acuilnos
@@acuilnos wdym . The sig engine literally doesn't change anything for caesar . The extra daze and few% team dmg is nowhere as impactful as a typical sig w engine for a dps .
Burnice without sig engine feels way worse compared to Caesar without engine . You have just built up this wall of pointless excuse to skip caesar . If you like burnice go get her but mental gymnastics to convince yourself of skipping and typing on internet is weird .
Just say I want both and but I can only get one of them , then i would rather get burnice over caesar. It's that simple .
She is SS top1 character easly. Buffs insane, can be in any team (pick any dps you like), add a stick lucy (for ceasar buff - or other support) and check results. She is OP at M0 - no need to even go for M1. Start the fight with her, do few attack + and switch (or add hold attack if her weapon). O P. Weapon is nice addition but not super needed.
I know this is early, but I would love to see how Jane Caesar and Burnice would do on a team
So happy finally got her. As a f2p who doesnt really have limited dps beside Ellen, now I can finally elevate my Soldier 11. At least it also help ease my pain from previously not getting Jane
Same hat!
Caesar is my reason, why i came in ZZZ at first place. I save up to 80000 polycromes just for her.
Now cant wait to finish download the update an roll all out on her, to one main goal.
Making her as a number 1 dps in game!
I have one plan, one faith and one way to go, to at least, try it!
This is the way. I see waifu. I Build waifu. I make her number 1! XD
Ok
No, stop lying.
Feels like a liar
As a fellow sons of colydon fan and collector, I wish you luck, friend. As for the people who said he is lying. I think he just exaggerated what he wanted to say. For f2p, if I'm not wrong, 350 to 400 pulls is the current limit, which is around 64k or 640000. If my guy bought the monthly pass and battle pass and some currency here and there, I think he should be around 75k, and he probably just exaggerated up to 80000. Regardless, good luck to my homies on pulling the king😂
@@dreameisters i record video with her gameplay when i back home. For this build need M4, one special group and dps build.
For now i just cant go to the game, but it feels like Dante ROYAL GUARD - from DMC.
Just got her at 20 pity, now she'll never leave my team🙏
Close enough, welcome back Zhongli
Got her on my 1st 10 pull on her banner! Super excited to pair her up with my dpses
Mbn wish that for all of us
Blessings of wengine in 170 pulls 🎉
Congrats! First 30 pulls over here! Wasn’t even planning to pull for her but figured ‘why not?’ I was gonna make forty pulls and then just wait for Burnice but then boom!, Caesar
*performs a perfect guard on a boss and stuns them right after*
YOU CANNOT KILL ME
I AM OMEGA
YOU CANNOT KILL ME
I AM SUBHUMAN
All of my friends are trying to skip her and get burnice but after some patches they'll just wait for her rerun because enemies will interrupt their combos and they'll never say just dodge😂
Her design is Clearly A reference to Bowsette.
her use case or kit are equivalent to Zhongli with Yunjin buff.
Finally my ellen will not be interrupted during her basic attacks 🙌🏻 zhongli + Bennett= broken unit
Love the shorthand on the spreadsheet, Rat + Pig + Cat. 🤣
Reasons why I'm NOT skipping her:
1.On Genshin Impact I skipped out on getting Zhongli when he first came out. Ever since, I haven't been able to get him on reruns and i've been suffering for it. Especially since I run Arataki Itto.
2. On Honkai Star rail, I thought about skipping aventurine because I disliked his personality and character. I didn't even use follow up attack teams...but, his shield looked pretty nice. So I did one multi before his banner went away. Won the 50/50. And now, he's a god send on my feixiao team.
3. I skipped Qingyi because I don't care for her character. I skipped Jane doe because she's too much of a thirst character. Caeser was someone who I was looking for. Badass Biker Babe. That and I main Sword and Shield In monster hunter. So, she hit all the marks as someone who I wanted.
Went to Pity. Lost the 50/50 to Nekomiya. (Silver lining is that I didn't have her before and she goes great with Caeser).
Went to Pity AGAIN and got her.
So far, she's been one of the most fun characters to use. Lycoan is my favorite because I love kick-boxing and he's cool ASF.
She's easily my second favorite character. But definitely #1 "Waifu" character for me. Burnice looks cool too. But Caesar has too much of that "Warrior" vibe that I like. Overall. I love everything about this character and i'm thankful you made a comprehensive guide on her. Been using her on literally every team since. Even sometimes as a main damage dealer because BOY can she hit hard lol
I ain't reading allat
She basically is a mix of Ben + Soukaku + Stunner.
- Ben's parrying mechanic and shield
- Soukaku's 1,000 atk buff
- Her use of Impact as her shield means she can replace the stunner's role
She is a buffer + debuffer + shielder + stunner???? Wow she is overtuned!!
You can use her in any team because she has decent daze which means you're fine not using a stunner. She can replace the support because she literally does Soukaku's buff + debuff. And she does Ben's job better with her shielding. She's busted af!!
That makes me wonder how they'll handle future characters. If Caesar is already overtuned like this, the only way they can market/sell a new defense agent is to make them stronger (hence the powercreep problem).
As sword and shield 🗡🛡 main in Monster Hunter, Caesar put smile in my face 😊😊😊.
150 pulls in and Caesar is still not at home anyway I always look forward to the combos you show and its always awesome!
Wait, hear me out! What if we go full def% on disc 4&5 + substats and then use big cylinder?
Probably still bad, but might be fun to try out. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
One word that perfectly describe her: Zhongli
I pull her today and got caesar and her weapon too,and see this video just gimme more happy happy haha
I wasn't planning on pulling on her, then i did the story quest liked her story and her gameplay and also she's hot, well im low in funds for Burnice and yanagi hopefully id get lucky
Do you think that burnice would be a better pair with soldier 11 than caesar? Keeping up in mind that burnice will allow the 4-piece inferno set to proc way more, and maybe ligther will give buffs ass well?
Her animations are so good.
Wait, does W-Engine effect of Original Transmorpher considered as base impact for her shield? If not, then the shield ratio shouldn't be 100% same as Stun W-Engine right?
Didn’t plan to pull for her, because I want Burnice really hard so I didn’t look at Ceaser’s kit, I know myself. Well, today I looked at it and guess what, I was right not looking at it for so long now I want her
I just got her on 14 pity 🎉 i'm gonna use her on a hypercarry Jane...thanks for the guide
You too? Dang! I got her at 10 pulls and her wengine in 3 pulls. I'm so happy. I created a second account that sits on 60k+ poly and 80+ limited master tapes and counting for section 6 esp Yanagi but I tried my luck in Caesar bc my only main is Piper and Piper is under her banner.
I was trying to get Piper and ended up with Caesar.
I admit Zenless build is quite a total mystery for me because of mechanics I don't understand. For exemple here : Why is Impact favored on disk 6 in most of cases ? And why not an Anomaly mastery when mostly playing with Jane (in my case) ? And the same goes for 2pieces disk type and proxy Engines...
But having just a few problems with Shiyu Defense, make me think, if not ultimates, a build of character is rather floppy than carved in stone.
The problem is investing in unappropriate engines or disk sets... as I already did. ^^
I really like this character and i need to know, would you recommend i go for her Cinema 1 or the W-Engine ????
16:37 Question here Please! What about the Assault Damage being shared between Jane and Caesar?
Vey nice video! However I would love it even more if you showcases Caesar against enemies who dont attack too often or dont use attacks that trigger defensive assists like big Mechs or Nibeveh even just a little bit.
why would u need a shield if an enemy doesnt attack in the first place🤣
"Hey it would be awesome, if you showed the character, who protects against attacks with an enemy, who doesn't attack very often, so you don't actually have a lot to show us."
Masses of pixels staring at each other for 10 minutes. Just imagine. Peak content. People clearly don't see the genius behind this. I hope the sarcasm was clear.
Fyi one of the levels of the new mode removes the parry warnings and dodge warnings. Caesar may be important after all for the shield
Speaking of Ellen teams, which stunner is better for her when you don't have Lycaon? Anby or Qingyi?
For ratcatpig
I have to switch the 4 piece discs basically between Seth and Caesar for them to work together?
I see she's good! But I want to pull for lighter too, do you think they'll work together???? I mean theyre from the same team but still a shield and a stunner...