Why I'm Quitting Amazon Flex

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  • Опубликовано: 12 янв 2025

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  • @GoHerping
    @GoHerping  Год назад +32

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  • @sambentley56
    @sambentley56 Год назад +803

    I’m in college now, which means I’m very poor. So me and two of my friends decided we would try doordashing. Last night was our first time and all three of us were in the same car. Let’s just say that was one of the most chaotic experiences of my life. We dashed for an hour and a half, made 26$ between the three of us, and legitimately almost died 2 times. Overall 9/10 experience and we will be doing it again 👍

    • @michigan8868
      @michigan8868 Год назад +51

      excellent sam lore

    • @GoHerping
      @GoHerping  Год назад +254

      you're not making bank, but ur making memories

    • @V.I.C.
      @V.I.C. Год назад +63

      We almost died but it was awesome!! 9/10 and were definitely doing it again!! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Jacqueline888
      @Jacqueline888 Год назад +50

      maybe the real doordash was the friends we made along the way

    • @SobrietyandSolace
      @SobrietyandSolace Год назад +12

      I mean I’ve made a lot less money doing a high risk job outdoors involving horse shit

  • @piprod01
    @piprod01 Год назад +637

    It seems to an outsider that a lot of these gig jobs rely on the worker not correctly accounting for all the costs: the time waiting around for an order, fuel, insurance, repairs, depreciation.

    • @paiganism
      @paiganism Год назад +41

      i think that's just true.

    • @SoSoK54
      @SoSoK54 Год назад +44

      That's just generally with any side hustle in my experience. Yeah it might not be worth your time if you break it down like that BUT if you decide it's not worth your time then you're sure to not have any extra dollar on your bank account. So yeah, my side hustle might not really be worth my time but I have extra money in my bank account at the end of it and that's what I need at the moment so I do it.

    • @cjgent
      @cjgent Год назад +14

      which equates to not writing off all those expenses for taxes

    • @sunnohh
      @sunnohh Год назад +32

      Yeah it’s like not even enough to cover you costs, you are basivally donating your time to amazon for like $0.85 an hour all said and done

    • @ericaallisonc
      @ericaallisonc Год назад +12

      @@SoSoK54it’s called a side gig for a reason, in no way should it be a supplement for a full time job.

  • @kylocatky
    @kylocatky Год назад +217

    I feel like gig jobs are over-advertised as easy money but there are pros and cons with everything. These videos are really enlightening and hopefully allow people to make more informed decisions on what they do for work.

    • @Ross1984.
      @Ross1984. Год назад +4

      I agree 100%

    • @Remorsefullyhumble
      @Remorsefullyhumble Год назад +4

      Gig jobs are never worth it unless you absolutely have no money .

    • @JADiaz10
      @JADiaz10 Год назад

      They have paid less over time which sucks.

    • @MusiqTruth
      @MusiqTruth Год назад

      I’ve been laid off for 8 months - working for myself has kept me afloat. Adding in and stacking up side hustles that I can do simultaneously is helping tremendously.

    • @derek8564
      @derek8564 8 месяцев назад

      working for amazon is shit. it is a job you do when you cant get a job doing anything else.

  • @FerociousPancake888
    @FerociousPancake888 Год назад +133

    Gig jobs are a lot of trouble. They have entire departments dedicated to optimizing the system as much as possible to make sure you make the least amount of money and they make the most profit, and they significantly increase your risk of a car crash and the second you get into one your money that you made is gone.

    • @h8GW
      @h8GW Год назад +4

      You'd think that expanding their already massive network would cost less, but I guess not when delivery numbers vary so much over time.

    • @gknife1499
      @gknife1499 Год назад +3

      I have a dedicated "gig app" car to drive for gig apps. I bought the car at a wholesale price and did my own repairs 90% of the time. I drove my first "gig app" 1998 Honda Accord to 285,000 miles and got a good idea of the cost of depreciation and maintenance. If you don't collect $1.00/ mile or $22.00 / hour you might not have much profit after your car depreciation or replacement cost. If you enjoy doing car repairs during your off time it may be different lol.😂

    • @lenasmith4895
      @lenasmith4895 Год назад +4

      Their customer service is awful. People that can't really speak English and then respond with a robotic copy/paste response.

    • @Zoe-c9z
      @Zoe-c9z Год назад +1

      That is not sustainable because when the word gets out no one would want to do it. The average block system wage is 25. An hour. Why dont they cut the bull and just pay you 25 an hour as a sub contractor, if it is temporary or part time. Just remember no health insurance. If they included profit sharing, it could be a game changer.

    • @Zoe-c9z
      @Zoe-c9z Год назад +1

      ​@@lenasmith4895there are more Spanish voting in the 2024 election than white

  • @godspeedmax6038
    @godspeedmax6038 Год назад +39

    This assertion is totally accurate. I don’t work for a flex but I have worked for DoorDash, UberEats, Grubhub etc. It is the only job I have ever had where the longer u do it, the less u make. These deliveries are mostly money losers . And the depreciation of your vehicle is a cost that can not be recouped

    • @wanglee21
      @wanglee21 Год назад +8

      If you are in an kind of delivery business, you have to take into account that your vehicle should be driving into the ground not a longevity 20-50 years car to keep. If most 3-5 years max. If you didn't have that mindset, you got into the wrong business

    • @Andy-im3kj
      @Andy-im3kj 11 месяцев назад

      If people really want to do delivery driving they should just apply somewhere with fleet vehicles like Amazon or those like it.

    • @Allthebest1010
      @Allthebest1010 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@wanglee21that doesn’t change the fact that DoorDash has zero regard for you gas refill, nor you tire wear mileage by failing repeatedly to optimize order location- which they Can do.

  • @nachoeluv
    @nachoeluv Год назад +36

    good to see an honest review of goods and bads and knowing some jobs are meant to be quick money but not long term

  • @sosaskates4906
    @sosaskates4906 Год назад +12

    I just wanted to say that I’ve literally watched you grow up on here and I’m so proud of you.. you’re shaping up into a great man .. I’m ten years older than you.. but regardless I have a lot of respect and admiration for you and your journey in life 🖤🔥🖤 keep up the good work and stay encouraged! You never know who’s watching , and you never know know who you’re inspiring

  • @SAmaryllis
    @SAmaryllis Год назад +56

    This was a really interesting series, so thanks for sharing it with us! Your analysis seemed pretty spot-on - Amazon Flex is not really meant to be a long-term thing, and it's okay to move on when you've gotten what you need from it :) It does make sense that a lot of deliveries would be out in rural areas with sketchy road conditions, because if they weren't, it could probably just be handled with their normal Amazon vans lol

  • @JustinSVA
    @JustinSVA Год назад +25

    I'm actually really glad you made this update! I had been considering doing this to give me more time on other projects but the one thing holding me back was the car thing.

    • @danniecurlett8702
      @danniecurlett8702 Год назад +2

      do it actually fun here and there not every day.

    • @Andy-im3kj
      @Andy-im3kj 11 месяцев назад +2

      Nah it's not worth it. Even one block can risk harm or damage to your car. You deal with all sorts of unmitigated places and if anything happens you eat the cost. It's too much of a risk and not enough profit for it.

    • @SuspenceF00L_Gaming
      @SuspenceF00L_Gaming 6 месяцев назад

      @@Andy-im3kjonce you become a level 4 and fantastic ratings they will keep you more localized . At least that’s how my warehouses do it here. I just pick up 2 morning shifts and I’m done by 9 in the morning. Rest of the day is spent well how ever I want.

  • @Nemshek
    @Nemshek Год назад +38

    My personal experience, It felt good at first. Stressful learning everything at first but you can get past that. It just started getting harder and harder to get blocks in my area. To the point that it just wasnt viable. Also the stress and wear on my car was also another big deal. I want my car to last, Flex kinda forces you to drive fast and rough just to make deliveries on time.

    • @wanglee21
      @wanglee21 Год назад +2

      My issue was how far you had to drive. The nearest pickup location is about 2hrs away from my house. Then on the routes, I may have to drive another 2hrs away. If I made $75/ 4hr delivery route then driving 4 hrs back home. That means I only made $25/6hrs for that day. I can see if you live next to a pickup station, it being more viable.

    • @assyrianiraqi3354
      @assyrianiraqi3354 Год назад +1

      Exactly in the beginning was to easy to find blocks now very hard to find one

    • @Nemshek
      @Nemshek Год назад +1

      @@wanglee21 How close you are definitely makes a huge difference. Some days it just feels like a road trip at the end of the drive. I'm sorry to anyone who's not within a decent range to a pickup location.

    • @Andy-im3kj
      @Andy-im3kj 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@NemshekIf you don't live within 15 minutes from a station, you're losing money. The people that have it the best are the ones who live like 5 minutes or less from a station.

  • @YourDriverMike
    @YourDriverMike Год назад +27

    Yeah Flex is really best at $20-$25+/hr but it's tough to grab those promo blocks because bonus pay may not even get that high. That plus having no idea where you'll be delivering means you could have miles and miles of driving for so-so pay. I also used to finish shifts much faster years ago versus now. Considering I just took an awful Flex Retail Delivery shift I'm listening intently

    • @allblueberries
      @allblueberries Год назад

      Oh my gosh I just watched your video before this. I once returned 5 out of 5 packages from Office Depot due to distance. The support agent was pleasant but went on script and told me to return them to the station instead of to the "store". Because she thought it was a station, the route remained on my app instead of being cleared out. This might sound strange, but I actually do not care about ratings and am willing to sacrifice ratings for refusing to do what they ask at times. For example, I have 91 (!) undelivered packages going back 6 months. They used to send me so far with so many packages that there came a point I knew I couldn't deliver them all. And then would have to take the time to return them to the station during the block. I would deliver them if they paid overtime but they consistently refused my requests. Clearly, I'm not the best driver out there but I'm not going to throw peoples packages either. It turns out my instincts were correct, and there is a new station to cover certain areas; the very same areas I thought were way too far!

    • @minimalist_monk
      @minimalist_monk Год назад +2

      The flex retail is absolutely horrible. They will send you 3 states over to deliver a package

    • @Andy-im3kj
      @Andy-im3kj 11 месяцев назад

      I have no problem getting huge surge blocks but it's not worth the risk on your car or your well being. Here in WI you can risk it in the winter with ice and your car sliding or you slipping and falling. After over 2 years of doing this I'm calling it quits because the blocks have gotten worse and worse.

    • @alexatedw
      @alexatedw 10 месяцев назад

      The standard pay in stl is around 22/hr

  • @ysierra1724
    @ysierra1724 Год назад +60

    Using your own gas is the worst thing for these gig jobs

  • @bigv1993
    @bigv1993 Год назад +36

    Even with the weird hours you seem more content and less stressed than all the years you've uploaded reptile videos with your business and stuff. Love the channel. Peace ✌️ love 🩵 happiness 😊

  • @AngelaRWatts
    @AngelaRWatts Год назад +14

    Pretty cool work! But yeah, kindaaa glad you're taking a step away, because your health is still more important, and knowing when to remove stuff when boundaries are hard to set is very wise!
    And I'm looking forward to the new vids and all!

  • @ANPC-pi9vu
    @ANPC-pi9vu Год назад +40

    Amazon's sales are in decline and there's also a lot more people looking for this sort of gig work, so it makes sense that the big pay outs when there weren't enough workers to meet demands weren't going to last. The pay outs might increase again heading up to Christmas this winter, but will probably fall off a cliff immediately after.

    • @GoHerping
      @GoHerping  Год назад +3

      true

    • @Andy-im3kj
      @Andy-im3kj 11 месяцев назад

      Plus Amazon realizes they can keep their costs down by on boarding a ton of new drivers willing to drive for nothing.

  • @GoHerping
    @GoHerping  Год назад +27

    I just posted a real-time rant about my worst Amazon shift yet! ruclips.net/video/F5dwcz_FT0Y/видео.html

    • @LittleBigBirdz
      @LittleBigBirdz Год назад +2

      I've worked in an actual factory for 3 years now, you drive around and deliver packages, how would u have an amazon shift. stop crying

    • @atlanticrblx7784
      @atlanticrblx7784 Год назад +2

      Do you deliver on wednesday afternoons when the traffic is the highest?

    • @GoHerping
      @GoHerping  Год назад +1

      @@atlanticrblx7784 i rarely do afternoons. mostly just 3-8am, sometimes as late as 10am but that's about it

    • @Btprime99
      @Btprime99 11 месяцев назад

      Lol, just when I was thinking about switching from working for my DSP. Salutation’s from Raleigh btw!! 😂🤙🏻

  • @DisturbedBurger
    @DisturbedBurger Год назад +22

    December 2021 I did a 3 hour block for $144. Only took me 1hr to complete 😊.
    Total that week was ~$500 and I worked 6hrs.

    • @Ihavetocorrectyou
      @Ihavetocorrectyou Год назад +4

      83 dollars per hour. Geesh ❤

    • @DisturbedBurger
      @DisturbedBurger Год назад +3

      @@Ihavetocorrectyou ya I got super lucky that week, by but overall I find it to be a terrible full time job. Great if there's a weekend plan and you want a comeup before going to the bar 🍻.
      Ride share is indeed a little more rewarding.

    • @GoHerping
      @GoHerping  Год назад +3

      sick

    • @Hi-cu2vx
      @Hi-cu2vx Год назад +1

      @@DisturbedBurgerwhy is it terrible full time?

    • @girlygirl1890
      @girlygirl1890 Год назад +1

      @@Hi-cu2vx Did you watch the video? lol

  • @BornAgainFarmGirl
    @BornAgainFarmGirl Год назад +6

    Well, good for you. I really enjoyed this video because for the longest time I had no idea where those Amazon delivery drivers in their own personal cars were coming from.

  • @mrahim1342
    @mrahim1342 Год назад +11

    I love the direction this channel is going in. 🥰

  • @septarian3337
    @septarian3337 Год назад +20

    You're very wise for your age. Not to sound like a weird old lady, I'm 31 but I appreciate you sharing what you've learned and your honesty. You have so much life experience for your age I guess is what I mean. From starting RUclips super young then owning a full on business, to where you are now. It's cool to see and even cooler to hear your take away & lessons from each endeavor. Cool man, I appreciate you sharing your experience.

    • @emojidinosaur7300
      @emojidinosaur7300 Год назад +2

      down cougar

    • @septarian3337
      @septarian3337 Год назад +6

      @@emojidinosaur7300 Lmaooo thanks bro, I'm so proud to be a 31 year old cougar. This fuckin kid knows a lot about life and has so many life experiences that he is real about and doesn't sugar coat. If recognizing that makes me a cougar, cool. Happy to be here.

    • @bryanitza-chulopez1658
      @bryanitza-chulopez1658 Год назад

      @@septarian3337cougars are the best, they know what they want and cut through the bs to get straight to point lol.

    • @gregkareem9824
      @gregkareem9824 Год назад

      ​@alancastilleja6394simp

  • @gilabsolute1353
    @gilabsolute1353 Год назад +40

    I loved Amazon flex because it took me to new places around my city and surrounding country towns. I was deactivated because there was a period of time after Christmas when the only blocks available were 3-7am and I overslept and missed several blocks. My gripe with them is that they are really cheap and truly should pay $5-$10 more per hour on the blocks.

    • @lamegeorge927
      @lamegeorge927 Год назад +4

      This has happened to me twice where my phone was in silent, and I didn't wake up, but I haven't been deactivated yet. I'm curious how many blocks you missed before deactivated you

    • @Goldensimba815
      @Goldensimba815 Год назад

      @@lamegeorge927 I missed one block drop a block 10 min before I had to be there cause of a flat. Scanned a package in a warehouse twice and refused to deliver that far and that many packages $77 to drive 45 miles deliver 35 packages and 50 miles back app is bull sometimes

    • @mikedelco5059
      @mikedelco5059 Год назад +1

      I got deactivated for missing 3

    • @Andy-im3kj
      @Andy-im3kj 11 месяцев назад +1

      They should pay WAY WAY more than 5-10 bucks more especially considering the risks you take on the road. I've slid on the road from simple black ice and have almost destroyed my car in the process despite driving very very slow. Plus you can deal with asshole customers who refuse to clean their driveways or are gun ho about people on their property.
      To me it's not worth it and I can't recommend it to anyone. You're better off getting a regular job and grinding it out hopefully to make more one day rather than legitimately risking your safety for 100 bucks more or less...

    • @juliewebb3127
      @juliewebb3127 6 месяцев назад

      I would love those hours

  • @edgufler1122
    @edgufler1122 Год назад +2

    I've been following your videos for several years now. You've always been adventurous and a good head on your shoulders. I wish you the best in whatever you seek . tc

  • @MrCecinko
    @MrCecinko 7 месяцев назад

    That was the first video I saw you,was helpfull for me,but what I like and respect about you is how you analyze facts and specificly explain.Be health and keep going!

  • @ryanmaris1917
    @ryanmaris1917 Год назад +18

    I did it once and I had to drive 30 miles just to get to my delivery area, it was about a 30min drive to the amazon facility where I got the packages and after 5 hours of delivering I had to drive back home. It was just not enough money that made it worth it.

  • @j.elizabeth4621
    @j.elizabeth4621 Год назад +6

    Really like the direction you’re taking this channel and didn’t let it sit when Emerald Scales closed up. There is SO much work in editing and filmmaking - I think you have a great eye and are building sophisticated camera movement and editing skills. “I made my first short film” when???

  • @a.ljohnson6843
    @a.ljohnson6843 10 месяцев назад +1

    I totally agree, the long gravel roads filled with potholes have worn my work van out, I need repairs now, I'm contemplating on quitting and staying with Uber Eats.

  • @drone-tario9693
    @drone-tario9693 Год назад +3

    Don't forget also that your personal car is now considered a commercial vehicle(higher rates) and you also are self employed. Depending in what country you come from entails all kinds of taxes. I did a similar job for Amazon. Now I'm a full time UPS swing driver and the difference is night and day(the benefits alone along with paid vacations)

  • @fastesteddiealive
    @fastesteddiealive Год назад +3

    I do straight construction w a trunk full of tools and giant boards of wood constantly in my Kia Optima and have never had a suspension problem. That doesn’t seem right or model 3 sux

  • @ClydeFog
    @ClydeFog Год назад +27

    lol the whole time you were doing flex you were like 'i can't believe they pay so much, they should pay way less' be careful what you wish for!

  • @takaInoue88
    @takaInoue88 Год назад +19

    One of my friends said that they would fire their employees if they didn’t meet up with their rates. I think that’s ridiculous.

    • @coldravioli7839
      @coldravioli7839 Год назад +4

      While I think if the rates are unfair, that's obviously fucked up... isn't that true of every job in the world? If you don't do what they tell you to do or require you to do, you get fired. This is an odd criticism.

  • @deltacx1059
    @deltacx1059 Год назад

    10:33 suspension is pretty simple but if it continues to have issues with delivering packages consider higher quality parts better suited to the application.
    Also it's not exactly a car that handles terrain that isn't perfectly flat well at all so if you have to do deliveries you should trade for a car with more ground clearance.

  • @Abraham_0
    @Abraham_0 Год назад

    I started watching your channel like 10 months ago when “my channel died” popped into my recommended and I’ve enjoyed the content so far excited to see what new projects you have upcoming!

  • @ziggszag1650
    @ziggszag1650 Год назад +14

    Can't speak on flex but driving for Amazon in an actual van is a nightmare.

    • @GoHerping
      @GoHerping  Год назад +9

      yeah i can imagine. there's so many tight squeezes i take in the sedan and am like "imagine if this were a van"

    • @ziggszag1650
      @ziggszag1650 Год назад +2

      @@GoHerping Yeah you end up having to walk up and down crazy hills aswell because the van has the power equivalent to a lawn mower..

    • @Greennnmeannn
      @Greennnmeannn Год назад +1

      Also the unrealistic times they never account for traffic or bathroom stops

  • @petera5560
    @petera5560 Год назад +9

    Good explanation video and I was thinking you would need a cheap car with good gas mileage to make it a smarter move. Most people who delivered to me in their car have been driving Asian smaller gas cars.

    • @GoHerping
      @GoHerping  Год назад

      thanks!

    • @father5946
      @father5946 11 месяцев назад

      Gotta get a hybrid. Prius is the way to go.

  • @viralshark
    @viralshark Год назад +5

    They are squeezing the flex drivers too thin. Unless your fuel costs are SUPER low, its just not worth it. Flex is honestly a scam, but whole foods blocks can pay pretty decently. I stopped doing flex unless the blocks were AT LEAST 20 dollars higher than base rate. They rely on new drivers coming in, eating up blocks, and not lasting because they realize what I've just explained.
    You can make more driving a company van, its a more reliable paycheck, and you don't have to think about expenses and taxes. You will be worked much harder, and timeframes will matter much much more where as a Flex driver, you never feel under pressure (comparatively). I've done both and I thought Flex was the dream job until reality settled in.

  • @CoolCatsLC
    @CoolCatsLC Год назад +21

    After doing doordash for 5 years I finally decided to go into business doing lawn care. I am putting about $20k into the business including truck, trailer, zero turn mower, racks, blower, and trimmers. That also includes money for promotional merchandise, flyers, website, and advertising. Almost everyone on youtube in this business makes at least $500 a day as a solo operator, $100 an hour is the standard pay. You should sell the Tesla and do it.

    • @perseverates
      @perseverates Год назад +4

      @sketchyj6912 will you film your lawncare for youtube?

    • @Lyrabela
      @Lyrabela Год назад +5

      There are problems with lawn care too, knowing your clientele, how to do the proper cut types, belts/zero turns can constantly break down depending on how big/many lawns you do. Does lawn care exclude hedges/trees, raking, seasonal spraying, and depending on where you live: seasonal clean up.

    • @CoolCatsLC
      @CoolCatsLC Год назад

      @@perseverates probably on a new channel

    • @CoolCatsLC
      @CoolCatsLC Год назад

      @@Lyrabela Doing doordash I've changed plenty of belts, brake pads and rotors, oil changes, radiator replacements, flat tires, alternators, shocks, ball joints,etc. So replacing a belt on a mower is not a thing I'm worried about. Also, I opened a business checking account at Regions bank today and I will get a $700 bonus after I make 10 debit card transactions. That's like a week of busting my ass doing doordash. Also, my zero turn mower has a 3 year warranty so I won't have to do any repairs myself until then.

    • @CrybabyCat02
      @CrybabyCat02 Год назад +5

      ⁠lmao idk why but i cracked up imagining you running a business called "Sketchy J's Lawn Care" using your current RUclips username 😂😂

  • @goodvibesonlyx
    @goodvibesonlyx Год назад +29

    I can totally relate with the unhealthy schedules. I remember grabbing a 4hr shift for $155 - but I ended up not going cause my alarm failed to ring loud enough LOL

    • @GoHerping
      @GoHerping  Год назад +5

      D: I've missed 2 shifts so far. Was 1 minute late to one, and slept through another

    • @goodvibesonlyx
      @goodvibesonlyx Год назад +3

      @@GoHerping damn i feel your pain

    • @Andy-im3kj
      @Andy-im3kj 11 месяцев назад

      I have no problem waking up but it's functioning throughout the day afterward which sucks more. Oh and dealing with the wildlife trying to cross the roads and risky deliveries early in the morning whether from homeowners or the weather.

  • @ericaallisonc
    @ericaallisonc Год назад +25

    The more I hear about side gigs the more I appreciate my trade career. 😂

    • @FloridaMan69.
      @FloridaMan69. Год назад +2

      I appreciate being a lottery winner. 😂

    • @JonSon6999
      @JonSon6999 Год назад

      lol sure Florida man @@FloridaMan69.

    • @Trahzy
      @Trahzy 6 месяцев назад

      I do both lol. That's why it's a side gig.

    • @nydiacarter6834
      @nydiacarter6834 6 месяцев назад +1

      It’s called a “side gig” for a reason 😂 plus you get to change up your work flow instead of the same shit everyday over n over.

  • @rdfarley89
    @rdfarley89 Год назад +6

    I think Amazon might be regretting the Flex program I feel like I have seen less Flex deliveries lately.

  • @SelfcareForTheMind
    @SelfcareForTheMind Год назад +2

    I rarely make enough for these gigs and even started rejecting jobs until they offer better wages. If we don’t reject them then the company will always think they can offer cheap wages.

  • @jonugent42
    @jonugent42 Год назад +5

    I recently learned that in my area, Virginia, $18 an hour is actually the poverty line. If you make $18 an hour or less you are considered impoverished.

    • @JNAllenstv
      @JNAllenstv Год назад

      Licensed Teachers and substitute teachers make poverty line income in Virginia, even when they have masters’ degrees.

    • @jonugent42
      @jonugent42 Год назад

      @@JNAllenstv but they also receive government benefits and other compensation. And I doubt that senior teachers are still making poverty line income. But I'm not really worried about people's pet causes. I'd really like to raise all boats. It's not an either or thing for me. Teachers should be paid better sure. But people out here doing hard physical labor should be making enough to feed their families also.

  • @deeztacos6336
    @deeztacos6336 Год назад +1

    The algorithm they use makes sense. Thats why i left as a driver for an amazon DSP. When they first started delivery in my city i used to finish to quick. Months went by and eventually learned as time went on the algorithm would automatically add more stops and packages to drivers routes who were fast and finished earlier than everyone else.

  • @hamfistsman6267
    @hamfistsman6267 Год назад +4

    $18 an hour isn't worth it if you have to use your own vehicle. They are getting a good deal on you.

  • @carschmn
    @carschmn Год назад +10

    I haven’t gotten an amazon route that was worth my time offered to me in about three months

    • @carschmn
      @carschmn Год назад +5

      Base pay also used to be $24 an hour and assistance been lowered to 18 in the last year.

  • @reynaldogil8842
    @reynaldogil8842 Год назад +2

    I quit about 2 weeks ago. Was driving for 2 hours. Just not worth the money anymore

  • @amariodom4858
    @amariodom4858 Год назад

    im a amazon driver & i’ve been told by managers that amazon likes to tweak the routes daily to benefit them. like if you’re finishing your routes fast they’ll start adding more stops or more packages to maximum what is being done per route. so it’s like be quick but dont go too fast or it’ll be harder then next time etc.

  • @MadisonFalcoFoods
    @MadisonFalcoFoods Год назад +3

    That’s the thing about finishing early, the Ai takes it into account and uses it for the next block times
    It happened to me when I was working at a DSP as well

  • @savannahwatson8074
    @savannahwatson8074 Год назад +11

    The woman almost going through the windshield made the video better.

  • @dontdoxmebro
    @dontdoxmebro Год назад +2

    18 an hour before fuel, insurance, wear and tear is literally below minimum wage.

  • @AdvantageWindowClean
    @AdvantageWindowClean Год назад +2

    Always try to stay watching your videos Alex keep it up!

  • @newnengates3764
    @newnengates3764 Год назад

    5:56 I will say this. In my department count and pick you will get written up to death behind poor quality and get fired! The warehouses have to stay on top that. If they didn’t I wouldn’t have suffered so much annoyance from AM’s so much. So I want to say yes and no. They care but they really don’t.

  • @dominiksowa4188
    @dominiksowa4188 Год назад +3

    28hrs a week and you can earn £2100 monthly, which is way way above a minimal wage for a 40hr week. I'd say it's still worth it, considering you are your own boss, and you get the flexibility of earning whenever you want. I have done 10 shifts so far, had 4 cancelled and paid so I can't complain, sometimes I do get sent somewhere far away, but at times I finish 1 or 1,5 hours earlier, depends on the day.

    • @GoHerping
      @GoHerping  Год назад +3

      wow, 4 cancelled is pretty wild. I finally got a couple shifts for this upcoming week!

  • @chrishewittpiano
    @chrishewittpiano Год назад +1

    Hey man! Just found your channel and subscribed. I really like this video! Can't wait to see what other videos you have on your channel!

  • @catbangs276
    @catbangs276 Год назад +1

    Flex has been great for me. I average about $26 per hour but that number is less important than keeping track of my pay per mile. With pay per mile I'm then able to subtract gas, car depreciation and repairs to get my net profit from working Flex. As an independent contractor, you should know what your net profit is at all times.

  • @Dogtroll
    @Dogtroll Год назад +4

    Have you ever considered purchasing a warehouse considering the fact that you like doing different projects? It would help not only to give you the space to work with but also help with having a better work/life balance and give much more flexibility as far as what projects you can handle.

    • @qwlnskay
      @qwlnskay Год назад +2

      bro can’t afford a house rn

    • @Dogtroll
      @Dogtroll Год назад +2

      @@qwlnskay a warehouse can be a lot cheaper than a house. Plus, if you find one that needs work done on it that can be a project and content for the channel.

    • @Ed_Rod214
      @Ed_Rod214 Год назад

      @@qwlnskayhe can afford a Tesla I’m pretty sure he can afford a house lol

  • @fantasyskeep
    @fantasyskeep Год назад +2

    Bro, my 2013 Hyundai Elantra has 230k miles on it, I've been hauling heavy things for years and I've never even heard my suspension squeak, let alone needed a repair...
    Only parts that have gone out are the AC and starter. How in the world is the quality of a Tesla so poor that it needs repairs from carrying an extra 500lbs?

  • @LavenderSystem69
    @LavenderSystem69 Год назад

    It's also worth noting that the base rates slide around based on what region you're in. Portland's base pay is $21.50/hr, so you will never find a 5 hour block paying less than $107.50, 4 hour will never be less than $86, etc. etc... and yet somehow, it's STILL not profitable after you account for fuel consumption. Forget taxes, forget maintenance, fuel alone wipes you out. That should just never be, especially with Amazon being the best paying gig in the area at this point in time

  • @davidperkins7065
    @davidperkins7065 Год назад +2

    I work at an Amazon flex station and let me tell you I never seen so many people who don’t know how to drive

  • @nicoj3660
    @nicoj3660 Год назад +2

    How can people do Amazon flex when they don't even tell you how many miles or where exactly you're going? Poor people..

  • @thejpkotor
    @thejpkotor Год назад +2

    Depends on your area… but Uber is pretty terrible now. All you need is one rider to make a mess, and cleaning alone will negate 2-3 days of work.

  • @dylansoares4266
    @dylansoares4266 Год назад +2

    I would quit too if I was getting the same rates as you for $90 for 5 hours I’m getting $120 for 5 hours and the most I seen was $180 for 5 hour 1:13

    • @GoHerping
      @GoHerping  Год назад +2

      what city?

    • @dylansoares4266
      @dylansoares4266 Год назад +1

      Boston area couple warehouse around including Nashua,NH but those rates are like yours but I do agree with you about Amazon making their block times more accurate I was way better before for money noticed a difference about a month or two ago

  • @flubberghosted2472
    @flubberghosted2472 Год назад +4

    I do it along with 4 other apps. If I did nothing but Flex I’d go nuts LOL. Whole Foods instant offers are my fave.

    • @J__7777
      @J__7777 Год назад +1

      Do the Whole Foods deliveries mostly tip?

    • @flubberghosted2472
      @flubberghosted2472 Год назад

      @@J__7777 yes indeed. I average about $30 to $50 per hour with Whole Foods orders.

  • @coastalhillbilly3419
    @coastalhillbilly3419 Год назад +2

    I'd guess
    When someone good with an efficient route completes a 5 hour block in 3 hours the new standard is a 5 hour block is now a 3 hour block

  • @allaround200
    @allaround200 8 месяцев назад +1

    I do delivery in a Tesla as well, Go slow and preserve the car. Slowing down doesn't cost you that much time

  • @secredeath
    @secredeath Год назад +1

    Get your CDL class B and drive the bobtails there easy to drive not as big as the siem trucks but bigger than a pick up truck. You get decent pay and its really easy its driving

  • @IamCaleum
    @IamCaleum Год назад

    Hybrids are awesome for Flex near me because of the distances from our closest Flex plant but the distances between drop offs is usually pretty short because this area is suburbian hellscapes. Had I not gotten injured I was getting ready to get rid of my Outback which was awesome for PA routes with dirt and rock roads, and move to a hybrid since many of these housing areas are 15mph and after driving up to the facility and then to the development the hybrids just run on battery power so no wear on the starter or engine until I need to get out of the development and onto the highway. Sadly because of the HUGE robbery issues around here and even going 30 minutes out into every direction Uber and Lyft are dead and the big cities are just PACKED with drivers already.

  • @ohfknowned239
    @ohfknowned239 Год назад +2

    Ai caught up to the actual work time so the see you made to much an hour now they do major overhaul to lower pay.

  • @fire2box
    @fire2box Год назад +2

    Flex is also what made me quit shopping on amazon. Way to many thrown packages.

  • @Jzzonem
    @Jzzonem Год назад +1

    I saw a documentary on amazon where the main point was how their aim is to not keep "employees" very long at all. Im not sure why they would keep a model like that but maybe its position specific.

  • @podmuse1994
    @podmuse1994 Год назад +1

    I tried the gig delivery work and because of the car I have it’s not worth it. I did 8 hours on the weekend for DoorDash with good tips and I earned about $160 for the two days. But I spent an easy $60 in gas that weekend too which made my earnings about $12.50 an hour 😒

  • @jjreyes2017
    @jjreyes2017 Год назад +1

    Amazon flex sucks I used to deliver for them and then decided it wasn’t worth it for me I had to drive 30 miles to the station to pick up blocks then Amazon sent me 30 miles away then another 30+ miles back home for stupid $100 bucks it’s not worth it 😢

  • @SuspenceF00L_Gaming
    @SuspenceF00L_Gaming 6 месяцев назад

    The most I’ve been offered was 170 for a 5 hour shift. And I got paid for not even doing that shift. That was a year ago and I haven’t gotten another shift like that this year.

  • @NASCAR_Junk
    @NASCAR_Junk 9 месяцев назад +1

    It’s $24 an hour for me after gas expenses. I’ll do it since nobody will hire me for more than $15/hr. Only $500 a year in taxes too.

    • @GoHerping
      @GoHerping  9 месяцев назад +1

      nice. yeah my gig app taxes from last year were almost non-existent due to the standardized mileage write-off. a lot of people don't consider that

    • @NASCAR_Junk
      @NASCAR_Junk 9 месяцев назад

      @@GoHerping Yeah. I’m surprised how many people don’t track their mileage. I’ve done it for every delivery job I’ve held.

  • @quakzopride4616
    @quakzopride4616 10 месяцев назад

    regular amazon drivers says that each stop are close to another meanwhile amazon flex driver has to drive long distance and it takes time sometimes, get worst when the algorithm gives to more packages surpassing the amount of block time you need to be done

  • @Brandon-ge9to
    @Brandon-ge9to Год назад

    I work in those warehouses, promoted bit of a big boy now, amazon flex also adds benefit to the actual full time drivers, you doing a block is a block that doesn't get randomly shoved in a van doing an 8 hour shift now has to do a 12 hour shift but only get paid for 8

  • @kamsandwich6990
    @kamsandwich6990 Год назад +3

    After FedEx, I will never do a delivery job again.

  • @MotherTruckinReptiles
    @MotherTruckinReptiles Год назад +1

    Yoo that's hilarious, right after you post about quitting flex, I got an email saying flex positions have opened up and they want me to continue onboarding 😂
    I signed up for that shit years ago and was told there were no positions in the area 😂😂

  • @tommyho6437
    @tommyho6437 Год назад

    I hear u man. I been doing it for over 2 yrs. They use to give 157-224 a block when I first started for almost a yr for 4.5hr. Now it’s 103 for 4.5hr for that many hour. U drive up to 150 miles to start your drive and home. It’s so not worth it. And there’s so many people especially Mexicans doing flex. And a lot of them use bot to take the high pay block.

  • @seapotato2479
    @seapotato2479 Год назад +2

    welcome to the club. I stopped doing amazon flex about 2 years ago. It was great at first until gas prices shot up. The maps didn't always work and they cut the pay like crazy. Such a shame :/

  • @deafrainbowboy75
    @deafrainbowboy75 Год назад +1

    Same here that’s my bf worked for Amazon delivery is bad looking on area from customer is mean and bad treatment that he’s quit 3time because discrimination of deaf people too my bf is deaf he friendly but Kansas people is bad very and not good in Kansas is awfully.

  • @benkenny3220
    @benkenny3220 Год назад

    Flex at $24 base I was making $14-16hr, not including commercial insurance or wear and tear. After too many shitty apartments in Austin, I quit.

  • @DareToScare98
    @DareToScare98 Год назад

    im thinking of quitting but im an not a flex driver im the actual hired on driver and i live in cali making $20 an hr but a year ago my routes were like 140 stops and hardly over 200 packages now im doing 160-180 stops but average 380 packages a day and its the same pay. im doing more work for the same pay. every stop is now extremely grouped. my once '1' stop is now '1 stop 3-5 locations' so now im doing like 4 extra stops per stop and im starting to feel burned out. these 10hr shifts and insane package count for the same pay has burnt me out quiet a bit and killed my drive that i once had when i loved this job

  • @JuneBuggJr
    @JuneBuggJr Год назад

    I driven 140,000 in my 2020 Toyota Tacoma and suspension still work great and no issues besides regular tune up and oil changes. Sorry to hear you had to fix suspension 4 times already

  • @allyj4322
    @allyj4322 Год назад +3

    18 an hour before expenses and taxes is wild. that seems so so low to me.

    • @GoHerping
      @GoHerping  Год назад +2

      most "regular" jobs around here start at 11-13/hr with no benefits, so it's definitely not bad, especially since you don't need any resume, education, etc. I do wonder if it starts higher in other cities though, I've never actually checked

    • @allyj4322
      @allyj4322 Год назад +1

      @@GoHerping No benefits like no vacation pay, sick leave, etc? Where I live “regular” jobs, even if they have no benefits like insurance are required to give some number of sick days and vacation pay, I think 3% or something? Plus the regular jobs have withholding so you don’t get stuck with a big tax bill at the end.
      I live in a big city so expenses might be higher than where you are.
      Anyways it’s really interesting hearing your perspective and thinking about what people make in other places :)

  • @petera5560
    @petera5560 Год назад +1

    I thought some people coming to my house were suspect(in their own cars), seems no criminal checks are done on the drivers, which I mentioned to my wife to be careful since I'm sure some will target the houses they've been too. I live in the country and am suspect of many cars I'm not aware of.

    • @GoHerping
      @GoHerping  Год назад +3

      drivers go through a background check, though I'm not sure what is and isn't allowed to show up on it

    • @mostmost1
      @mostmost1 Год назад +2

      This is one reason I don't like delivering to the country. Fearful people. Why do you order from Amazon if you don't want people near your homes? The truck drivers can't deliver every package especially 1 day deliveries.

    • @bftjoe
      @bftjoe Год назад

      Stupid rural people with no common sense are the worst. Why are you on my property when I ordered delivery??????? OMGZ.

  • @alexatedw
    @alexatedw 10 месяцев назад

    Idk. I just started and I’m loving it. In the first week, I’ve had 2 5 hours shifts they just sent me home for.

  • @VincentDavidRose
    @VincentDavidRose Год назад +9

    Watching this as I’m doing my flex block 😂

  • @patrickreis4593
    @patrickreis4593 4 месяца назад

    I live In Upstate New York and our four hour routes start at 100 and surge easily to $140 and 180 in the winter time.

  • @Ilikepalmtrees
    @Ilikepalmtrees Год назад +3

    Did a 4 hour block today for $160. I only go for the surged routes

    • @GoHerping
      @GoHerping  Год назад

      noice. I didn't see any offers the past 2 days!

    • @J__7777
      @J__7777 Год назад

      On the surge routes does it say "surge" or how you know? Barely getting accepted to Amazon Flex after more than a year.

    • @GoHerping
      @GoHerping  Год назад +1

      @@J__7777 calculate the hourly for each and see if any are higher than others. so in my area, the base rate is $18/hr ($36 for 2 hour, $54 for 3 hour, $90 for a 5hour, etc). so I just know if I see, for example, a 4 hour that's paying more than 72, it's increased

    • @J__7777
      @J__7777 Год назад

      @GoHerping Thx, yeah I'm not accepting anything at $18/hr that's like $12/hr after expenses lol

    • @J__7777
      @J__7777 Год назад

      @GoHerping when we're in a different region, like when are on vacation, can we do deliveries in that region?

  • @irusuferal3834
    @irusuferal3834 Год назад +3

    I wanna do this so bad so so bad, but I have a 2008 Forester and cannot afford to ruin my car doing something like this :(

  • @JackOfAllRAIDs
    @JackOfAllRAIDs Год назад

    You're young and have many options open to you still. Many older people under hard times would look at this like a grand opportunity ($30+/hour, heck yes!).

  • @Baebon6259
    @Baebon6259 Год назад

    I took an offer for 3.5 hrs that pay 178 to deliver 35 packages 2 days ago around Monterey Bay area in CA. My shift started at 1900 but I have to deliver all 35 by 9 PM according to Flex app. Long story short I failed to meet the time requirement and got penalized for it. I sent an email to Amazon flex to see if they can remove that because that is ridiculous.

  • @8ullfrog
    @8ullfrog Год назад +1

    This is literally a nightmare to me. More work, less pay, Because algorithm. Eventually every task will be timed, and people will be fired by a robot.

  • @laomortus8110
    @laomortus8110 Год назад +1

    The bots have killed it for most people. Can't compete with them.

  • @BrokenGabe
    @BrokenGabe Год назад

    Amazon's algorithm is like a Fluid, it's always changing based on all the drivers data points that they collect between Flex and DSP drivers.

  • @richtalksmoney
    @richtalksmoney Год назад

    Totally agree i did a couple , just uploaded my review on my other channel but it can be good on your own time & bills

  • @Cakebattered
    @Cakebattered Год назад

    Chalk this up to experience as a young adult. Traditionally side hustles paid above the wages of a fast food job but offered limited hours or extra benefits. For example, holiday retail work paid minimum wage or the going retail wage, but offered a store discount, which came in handy for parents with kids. Bartending and Waitstaff jobs were also great side hustles that paid well above any fast food or retail job, but hours were limited (Also you walked away with cash after each shift). These new side hustle jobs paying roughly $18/hr before expenses doesn't make sense to me.

  • @PKAPE004
    @PKAPE004 Год назад

    This gig didn’t work out for me. I’d never finished my blocks before the sunset so ending up delivering in darkness. This was bad if I had to deal with apartment complexes with locked gates. Other cons were wear and tear on car and pay (not worth it).

  • @andre-le-bone-aparte
    @andre-le-bone-aparte Год назад +1

    Just found your channel. Excellent content - Another sub for you!