In her defense, she gets mad at Alex for a second, then she's upset cause Leonard liked it and never told her about it, she had to hear it from Sheldon. She says it herself "you liked it, do I need to worry?". Here, Leonard is upset when the guy has never even got off the plane.
@@ThePunisherSpider Leonard admitted he liked it but was no way going on a date. He did not know Stephanie was hitting on him. He laughed when she said people could be hitting him. He is surprised that Penny is jealous because he was never going at Alex. But if When he and Penny had broken, Alex was around, he would definitely had gone out with Alex and it may have ended their relationship(sexually), forever. But remember, the writers have the final say.
First of all, its hypocritical of her to force him out of that situation. Second, if she cant trust him then why is she in the relationship and what does that say about her confidence?
@@BlackDiamond2718 Penny and Leonard are polar opposites that are attracted to each other. Penny has the upper hand in this relationship because of Leonard inexperience with dating women and because of his painfully relationship with his mother. Plus Penny has had multiple relationships with men. And they have not worked out for her. Leonard is not her type(physically and sexually), but somehow she loves Leonard because he care deeply about her well being. He loves Penny but is insecure about their relationship. Just leave it at that. Not all men have confidence when it come to male female relationship. He just has develop that part of himself. He has to fight for Penny because his heart tell him to. Some people call him a fool. He may well be one . but like Penny says "the heart wants what the heart wants".
douglahdrum1 the thing that bugs me about their relationship is that they feed their unresolved issues with sex. I agree with you of course because they both find each other to be better than finding the same personality over and over again. Just that it feels like a jerry and beth relationship.
Harlequin 9 Yes, it did. Sheldon's mother: "Damn it, George! I told you if you didn't quit drinking I'd leave you!" Sheldon's father: "Well I guess that makes you a liar, because I'm drunk as hell and you're still here!" Sheldon's mother: "Stop it, you're making Sheldon cry!" Sheldon's father: "I'll tell you what's making him cry, the fact that I let you name him Sheldon!"
I'll play your games Sheldon, I might not be smart as a physicist but I know how it feels when people drown you out in the middle of something you put together.
Can imagine how Penny would react if Leonard invited his ex-girlfriend to sleep in his house, "helping her out" because "it's his house and he can do everything he wants not asking her opinion".
@dark zeratul nah, she cared badly whenever Leonard get hits on. Penny is selfish and insensitive. you can't bring your ex effectively into your own home and let him stay for many nights even if he's now your friend when your dating someone, that's what an insensitive douchebag would do. tho Leonard does not have the right to tell her what to do, she should figure out how that would hurt her partner or how others would view it
dark zeratul Penny would care, and feel hurt, possibly offended, if Leonard invited an ex. But I still side with her here. Leonard's reaction makes me think that theirs was a dysfunctional relationship
Something just doesn’t sit right with having a friend of the opposite gender crash at your house. Especially an ex for that matter. I guess it depends on the person and relationship, but it’s inconsiderate and insensitive to your partner. I could never do something like that myself nor be okay with my partner doing it Unless the person was family. It just crosses the line and goes against my rooted and preconceived social paradigms. I view a home and living with someone as deeply personal and intimate, something shared with yourself, family, your partner (and I guess friends if they are opposite your sexual attraction). So having someone of the opposite gender (if your heterosexual) just breaks that idea for me and makes me incredibly uncomfortable as there is no guarantee something won’t happen. I can definitely see where Leonard is coming from in this video, especially when he asks if the friend is gay.
Kitty Norville How are BOTH of them messed up? Granted, they brought painful memories back to Sheldon, but, I'm siding with Leonard. Hypothetically speaking, if my girlfriend had another guy staying overnight at her place, and I didn't know that guy, it'd raise some eyebrows from me.
@@thomashuffman3237 she said she had told him about it, Leonard said she didnt, so we dont know who was right. Then Leonard said Penny was being stupid. I think he had a right to raise his eyebrown and said he was unconfortable with the situation, but he managed very poorly.
I hate when my family fights. This happens all the time at family reunions. My mother gets attacked(verbally) by my grandma and step grandfather. My grandparents also fight. THEY also speak Chinese, which I can't, and I CANNOT UNDERSTAND!!!!!!
It is maddening and at some point get sick of it and you don't care about anything. It might even lead you to be apathetic towards your family. I hope you are not there yet though, there might still be a chance for them.
I come from a Mexican family. We can't go 2 days without screaming and fighting with each other. Family fighting is more of a symbol of our closeness at this point. The only time we don't fight is when something happens to one of us and the rest go and support them.
So Priya and Stephanie Barnett were "overreacting" because Penny was messing around while they are in relationships with Leonard??? Would you say the same for Penny's behavior about Alex? All i see here is double standards...
For stephanie, she had a point considering she came in as if she slept in those clothes. For priya, just the idea that they went out and they still hang out after so possible feelings remain but she was too afraid of her parents so who cares. For penny with alex, it was nothing more than jealousy and it is not like he did anything with alex.
@@nathanevans1382 The fact that he has done so much for her whether he was dating her or not should mean something. If it does not then Leonard should leave her.
Me too. When I hear people fighting, I just go away or I put my headphones and watch videos on RUclips, because I have so much fear of fights because my parents always fight, and I don't wanna hear it
@@leahkent147 Thats the lamest excuse. Flirting with other people or not maintaining your boundaries with other people is just disrespectful towards your partner. The guy staying with penny inside her room is disrespectful as fuck to Leonard, whether or not something happens. If not, why the couch then? Just sleep in the bed together. Why make the friend uncomfortable on the couch? In my relationship, if someone finds me attractive and wants me and I know it, then I MUST separate myself from her and make my intent very clear out of respect for my partner. We have to have boundaries in relationships. This is forgotten among people today. No wonder most of the relationships are miserable.
@@Ntnt11 you are correct. Somebody wrote along rebuttal. I didn't bother to finish reading it, it was the typical answer that ignored your points just to make theirs
As a divorce child, I perfectly understand Sheldon's situation in this episode. It feels terrible when you hear two people close to you fight and you're standing right in the middle of it with no power to resolve it.
Leonard should have calmly told her how it made him feel instead of talking down to her, however, Penny is def in the wrong more. It is one thing to have a friend sleep on your couch a few days but a ex-boyfriend NOPE. To me its not a matter of trust it about showing respect to the person you are with at the time.
Moreover she didn't mention it to him at all. Not that she needed his permission, but when you're in a monogamous relationship, it's the right thing to do to at least run it by your partner.
But Leonard was already mad even before he knew about Justin and Penny having a thing in the past (not that I think that matters, you can be friends with your ex). If she said she is helping out a friend by letting him sleep on her couch, why can't he take her at her word? He is basically interrogating her and assuming things, and it's clear that he does not trust her. If someone pulled this stunt with me that would be the end of it. There is nothing more toxic to a relationship than being unable to trust your partner.
Stefan exactly. It's like telling your kids not to drink, but you've got 5 cans of a six pack emptied right next to you. It's like telling your kids not to smoke, but you're lighting a cigarette right in front of them,
@@MalucoDoPao Define "made", because from what I remember, Lenoard knocked on her door and played his cello on one knee COMPLETELY of his own accord... I'm hoping you just forgot that.
if i was Leonard, i would've broken up with her right there, no she is not obligated to follow Leonard's rule, she can do whatever she wants, but when you are in a relationship you shouldn't think only about yourself and your own side, you need to consider your partner's side and feelings, if i had an ex gf crashing on my couch for the weekend, no matter WHO i was dating at the time, she would instantly get mad, angry and a fight would 100% happen, i think Leonard lost his cool, he should've said "Its fine, you want to have your ex boyfriend sleeping on your couch and didn't ever bothered to tell me? then we are done, get the hell out of here and good luck with your life, BYE!" remember.. is "TELL HIM" not "ASK FOR PERMISSION" two different concepts, she should've INFORMED him, not ASKED FOR PERMISSION. but yeah i would've kicked her out of my place and then would go after someone who cared more about my feelings and had more respect towards "us" as a couple. She is not obligated to ask him permission to do Anything, and he is not bound to keep dating her if she behaves in such a selfish way, period.. Break up and find someone better, way easier than dealing with drama
At first you can hear her telling him "I told you about him" and Leonard saying "No you didn't". She probably did tell him that she would have a friend over, but he forgot or didn't paid enough attention. Point being, she (at the very least thought) she had already told him, so it's not like she didn't care to tell him and Leonard came home to see a stranger in Penny's house.
I feel very sorry for Sheldon. He put a lot of effort into making a game, but Penny and Leonard ruined it with their childish fight. They really don't treat him as he deserves.
Sheldon is my spirit animal 🤣 I relate to him so freaking much is hilarious, and I would do the exact same thing if there were a fight because I hate conflict and arguing
the end of this video where sheldon's actions convey anger but the tone of his voice seems perfectly calm made me wonder if he really knows a lot more of how others feel about him but never know how to express it in a certain mood or when to express it, this is because the tone of his voice may mean that he is trying to not act angrily since he knows leonard had a bad interaction
It's often in these kind of relationships with a pretty girl and a geeky guy that the girl tries to control every aspect and the guy just always lets her have her way. As crazy as Leonard is about Penny, it's good to see they treat each other on an equal level.
As a person who is really bad at science if I hang out with Sheldon Leonard Raj and Howard I would be taking notes and reviewing them since they actually make it more fun than school
Exactly. I know the show made it look like they were bad at teaching and stuff but if I were hanging out with them, it would be extremely interesting to see them do all science-y stuff.
@@Happy-mx9ds Not really, it isn't. Not if you love the person you're with, anyway. If you can be "seduced", I'd wonder what is not right with your relationship.
When I was a kid, my mom and stepdad use to fight all the time. Wasn’t till I got older and realized that they’re reasons for fighting were ridiculous and there was no need to worry. Besides they always made up, 5 minutes later. 😂
First time, I saw Leonard stand for himself... Got to express things which may be right or wrong. SHELDON : Has your relation reached to its ugly inevitable end, I quote this to all my friends, and wish that one day I am correct..
Sheldon’s heart is in the right place this time when he created a game and encouraged his friends to play. However his friends decided to fight and it hit Sheldon on a different level because it’s his parents Mary and George arguing all over again.
Personally I think Penny is the wrong here. While I'm not in any way saying Leonard is the right either, he should show more trust in her, but in this instance, she's definitely the one who's in the wrong here. I'm NOT saying she should abandon her friend either, but she's basically just sitting there not caring about Leonard's feelings at all, she should've at least been more understanding because she's been on that side of the pond too yet she has the gulls to bitch about Leonard's feelings. Not only that, but she also has a track record of getting dicking him around at first in the relationship, and then breaks up with him. On top of that, she leeches off of the guys for food and internet and all that stuff just because the guys (besides Sheldon) thought she was hot. So seriously, she's technically the one who's wrong here.
She probably overreacted a little to let him know that she will not let anyone control her. He needed to know that. After all, they were still just getting to know each other as bf and gf.
Actually she wasn't wrong here at all 1st off Leonard allowed her to do all those things too him & Sheldon on a daily basis she even told him on countless occasions if he had a problem to tell her about it but because he is such a gutless control freak she continued to do it to them ? Besides their not married it's not his apartment it's hers so how can Leonard tell her who she can & can't have over like really Penny's a grown woman Leonard needed to realize for so long he liked her but she didn't like him like that he finally get's her & now he wants to be a man instead of a loser ass nerd hell nah dude should be grateful she even gave him the time of day to be honest so Leonard is in the wrong not Penny.
Leonard definitely can't tell her what to do.. but that's not the point.. she's hot yes but they're in a relationship 'n Penny should be in it for her feeling for Leonard.. I'm not saying Leonard was right, they both approached the problem poorly, but she could've been more considerate toward his feelings 'n he should've trusted her decisions~
@playstationsteve Penny was completely wrong here. Given her track record of sleeping around, I don't blame Leonard for feeling jealous and insecure. She should've given him a heads up about having a guest, and especially if he was going to crash on her couch. No one owns each other but it's still rude not to say anything.
naah penny is not wrong here but yes about the part that she used the guys earlier here if she doesnt care for leonard n will cheat on him then Leonard must acknowledge it n break up or let her go u cant lock someone up from meeting hotter prospect to keep them in life.. u actually wanna get rid of such persons in ur life. So leonard is absolutely wrong here. they r not living together to get any permission for any household inconvinience.
when Sheldon kept playing the game and both of em are fighting, i know Sheldon is compressing that present reality by continuing the game cause he hates people fighting (distracting himself), and in this case Leonard and Penny are in a relationship
Latin Ace i don't know if "ask" is correct. at the end of the day, it is her apartment and her couch. but she could've at least considered his feelings and tried to reach a compromise. maybe while jason was staying in her place, she could've asked leonard to stay with him. it's just across the hall, after all.
@Zara Maria Dixon if she loves Leonard and doesnt want to upset him she SHOULD ask him if its ok. Who's more important in her life, her boyfriend or a friend she hardly sees.
@Zara Maria Dixon that's not the point. U still need to ask ur partner and not be inconsiderate. Just because he can trust her doesnt mean hes gotta trust the friend
I'm with Leonard on this one.... Penny's ex is going to be living with her for a couple of days and he's probably a lot better looking that Leonard so ofcourse he's gonna feel insecure! Also, when Alex flirted with Leonard, Penny got mad. So according to her logic, Leonard can't get mad due to a situation created by Penny HOWEVER, Penny can get get mad at Leonard because a situation that wasn't in is hands.
I like that they are dating again too, but in honesty, Penny is freakin' gorgeous and it's EXTREMELY hard to have the same amount of trust as Penny has on Leonard.... I wish they gave Alex's role more of a push to where she could impact Penny just a little bit more
I know Leonard has a track record of being insecure but lets be honest hear who wouldn't take issue with their women having another guy stay her place. Though Leonard did handle the argument pretty poorly. 🤔
Love the show so much, yet I do think penny is wrong here I mean double standards if Leonard did that he would be the bad one. If they are in a relationship they should come to an agreement on this friend.
Look people, both of them are in the wrong for various reasons. Communication was not used here at all. Penny should have given Leonard a heads up that she was going to have an ex boyfriend stay with her. No Leonard does not have the right to dictate who she allows into her apartment or to stay with her. Penny should understand where Leonard is coming from about an ex staying with her. Yes Leonard should trust Penny more. The best compramise for a situation like this is to have her ex stay with Leonard and Sheldon. This ensures that the dude isn't out on his ass, Penny still gets to see him, and Leonard can get to know him to try and be friends with him.
Why would one wants to be friends with one's bf/gf 's ex?? What would ones talk about? Hey i tapped that, multiple times a day, does she allow you to to stick it from behind? No thanks.
@@Wizardwiwizard People still have stuff in common after they broke up. Look at this show. Penny and Leonard and Sheldon and Amy still stayed friends after they broke up. I give you that it is awkward but people make it work.
Someone who has a mindset like that doesn’t deserve to be in a relationship..... selfish brat who thinks only themselves that matter.... everything is yours except good and long lasting relationship lol
Not a popular opinion but I always thought that Leonard always deserved someone better. Considering Penny's past, her sleeping with Raj while being drunk and her general behaviour. Leonard deserves someone like Priya or his ex-girlfriend who was a Dr.
No he's not. If men expect their girlfriends to be okay with them having female friends then women should also be allowed to have male friends. It's all about trust!
@@thaneindranaidu8688 Penny never cheated on Leonard even when he was at sea or in the north pole. She has always been loyal to him. The only time she was in a compromised situation was when she slept with Raj but even then Leonard and Penny were not dating so that wouldn't count.
Leonard is so wrong here. It is silly to fight about these things. He should've ended that relationship the second Penny said an ex boyfriend was gonna be sleeping in her couch. What Leonard always lacked was self-esteem and self-respect and that is why he ended up marrying a Very Low Value Woman. And let me be clear: it's not her fault, it is Leonard's
Penny frankly doesn't need Leonard's permission to help out an ex. If you decide to break up with your partner if they mention helping out an ex, then the problem is you because you admit you don't trust them.
You’re missing the point. You shouldn’t even HAVE to deal with that in the first place. It’s extremely disrespectful and gross to have an ex sleep over and pretend like there’s nothing wrong with it when you are in a relationship. That’s absolutely whorish, controlling, and gaslighting behavior
What´s makes it a big deal is that hasn´t told him about Justins visit. She is inconsiderate about Leonards feelings and if it would be the other way around she would have been furious at Leonard.
Oh no, I did look at it from his perspective, but I couldn't fit it all in there. And you're right, that's what Leonard's problem was. What was really sad later in the episode, was that Raj agreed with Penny lol
Penny's in the wrong this time. Leonard, as her boyfriend, should have a say in weather a guy can stay IN HER HOME, just as Penny should have a say in weather a girl could live in his home. This comes up later with two different girls, Alex and Stephanie, and for some reason, Penny gets mad at him those times? It makes zero sense.
She does not need anyone's permission, especially her boyfriends, to let a guy she knows into HER apartment. Same can be said in reverse: Leonard does not need Penny's permission to allow girls into the apartment. Frankly, with Sheldon as a roommate, if Leonard started to cheat on Penny and he saw it, he would blab right away. So if Sheldon doesn't say anything then that means nothing is going on. And here's a flaw in your logic: Penny never once cheated on Leonard but he cheated on her several times.
it was just a regular guy friend, it would not be a problem. It's a friend who she used to date and from the sound of it they were just bang buddies. Why is it wrong for Leonard to have a problem with it?
I agree with Penny. Leonard needs to have trust in Penny.. Leonard should have not made a big deal over it. I have been married for 29 years to the same woman, so I know what I'm talking about..trust goes a long way in a relationship .
I can tell the writing is on point about their relationship (sometimes). Cause I sway back and forth between loving and absolutely hating their relationship. Lol
You can see how Penny changed a looooot as the seasons progress. She used to be a happy go lucky woman who just liked to party and sleep around. As the seasons progress, she is getting more and more comfy doing nerdy stuff like playing board games, video games, even reading comics. Further, she cannot tolerate stupid people anymore. Penny for me has the most character development in this series.
That's called hitting the wall. She no longer has all these guys chasing after her. Her options started to become limited, compared to when she was in her early 20's to mid 20's. We actually see it on full display in the Valentine episode
The people who take Leonard's side about feeling uncomfortable about Penny's guitarist guy friend, and possible former boyfriend, crashing on her couch for a few weeks, are the same ones who believe Ross and Rachel were on a break.
Leonard and Penny are both in the right and the wrong. For Penny, she can decide who ever had in her apartment. They don't live together or married. However, Penny should have been respectful and less casual of Leonard's of another guy in her home As for Leonard, he should have known more informed of another man in Penny's home, but should have had not e trust in Penny. Even if the guy's relationship with Penny was like they were after the 1st time they dated.
My heart tugged a little for Sheldon since it looked like he was a sad child hearing his parents fight. 😢😢
My mom and step dad grown apart recently and broke up
Same here
Especially since he was having so much fun with his game
That normally what happen when you have an adult that has the temperament of a seven year old
It does hurt a bit considering every group argues whenever he is there.
This is the lone time I related and truly truly sympathized with Sheldon, reminds me of my childhood.
i tale it you like as told by ginger
Yeah he's an adult not five year old. This shouldn't bother an adult as much
Decapitating a dumb animal like Sheldon is at best a mercy kill
😢😢
@@alski200 well thats what the point is,he has a high iq but has a weird personality,like a 10 year old's.
The last 10 seconds of this video proves that Jim Parsons deserves all the Emmys he won for this show.
...u dont know what causes someone to win an Emmy..
Yeah um no. Johnny did all the acting in this one.
Absolutely
@@TheChamp91100 oh shut up
I too can make a snowcone, wheres my emmy?
Amazing, then she gets mad cause Alex "flirted" with Leonard.
In her defense, she gets mad at Alex for a second, then she's upset cause Leonard liked it and never told her about it, she had to hear it from Sheldon. She says it herself "you liked it, do I need to worry?". Here, Leonard is upset when the guy has never even got off the plane.
@@ThePunisherSpider Leonard admitted he liked it but was no way going on a date. He did not know Stephanie was hitting on him. He laughed when she said people could be hitting him. He is surprised that Penny is jealous because he was never going at Alex. But if When he and Penny had broken, Alex was around, he would definitely had gone out with Alex and it may have ended their relationship(sexually), forever. But remember, the writers have the final say.
First of all, its hypocritical of her to force him out of that situation. Second, if she cant trust him then why is she in the relationship and what does that say about her confidence?
@@BlackDiamond2718 Penny and Leonard are polar opposites that are attracted to each other. Penny has the upper hand in this relationship because of Leonard inexperience with dating women and because of his painfully relationship with his mother.
Plus Penny has had multiple relationships with men. And they have not worked out for her. Leonard is not her type(physically and sexually), but somehow she loves Leonard because he care deeply about her well being. He loves Penny but is insecure about their relationship. Just leave it at that. Not all men have confidence when it come to male female relationship. He just has develop that part of himself. He has to fight for Penny because his heart tell him to.
Some people call him a fool. He may well be one . but like Penny says "the heart wants what the heart wants".
douglahdrum1 the thing that bugs me about their relationship is that they feed their unresolved issues with sex. I agree with you of course because they both find each other to be better than finding the same personality over and over again. Just that it feels like a jerry and beth relationship.
Do you think this reminds Sheldon of his parents fighting?
Harlequin 9 Yes, it did.
Sheldon's mother: "Damn it, George! I told you if you didn't quit drinking I'd leave you!"
Sheldon's father: "Well I guess that makes you a liar, because I'm drunk as hell and you're still here!"
Sheldon's mother: "Stop it, you're making Sheldon cry!"
Sheldon's father: "I'll tell you what's making him cry, the fact that I let you name him Sheldon!"
After reading this comment, I think that you are spot on. That's exactly how a child would deal with their parents arguing.
@@mariyaa111 Indeed.
Harlequin 9 yes that's kind of the point
@@mariyaa111 In his case yes but he didn't understand why and still doesn't due to his lack of social skills
Sheldon needs a hug and someone to play his game with.
I completely agree I'll play his game with him it looks fun.
The game seems pretty boring
I'll play your games Sheldon, I might not be smart as a physicist but I know how it feels when people drown you out in the middle of something you put together.
maxcardun I will join you too.
I know how it feels to be around someone as ungrateful as Penny.
Don't forget he puts things together so everyone can focus on him since he is severely Insecure
Can imagine how Penny would react if Leonard invited his ex-girlfriend to sleep in his house, "helping her out" because "it's his house and he can do everything he wants not asking her opinion".
Penny is over sensitive. She overreacts on EVERYTHING. She would completely lose her crap, and there relationship would be in ashes.
@dark zeratul nah, she cared badly whenever Leonard get hits on. Penny is selfish and insensitive. you can't bring your ex effectively into your own home and let him stay for many nights even if he's now your friend when your dating someone, that's what an insensitive douchebag would do. tho Leonard does not have the right to tell her what to do, she should figure out how that would hurt her partner or how others would view it
Actually the roommate agreement prevents Leonard from inviting his ex girlfriend
dark zeratul Penny would care, and feel hurt, possibly offended, if Leonard invited an ex. But I still side with her here. Leonard's reaction makes me think that theirs was a dysfunctional relationship
Something just doesn’t sit right with having a friend of the opposite gender crash at your house. Especially an ex for that matter. I guess it depends on the person and relationship, but it’s inconsiderate and insensitive to your partner. I could never do something like that myself nor be okay with my partner doing it Unless the person was family. It just crosses the line and goes against my rooted and preconceived social paradigms. I view a home and living with someone as deeply personal and intimate, something shared with yourself, family, your partner (and I guess friends if they are opposite your sexual attraction). So having someone of the opposite gender (if your heterosexual) just breaks that idea for me and makes me incredibly uncomfortable as there is no guarantee something won’t happen. I can definitely see where Leonard is coming from in this video, especially when he asks if the friend is gay.
inviteing your ex boyfriend to stay the night without telling to present boyfriend is wrong.... penny was wrong not leonard.....
I think they both messed up here
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He should have trusted her a bit more but yeah... She should have at least told him earlier
Kitty Norville How are BOTH of them messed up? Granted, they brought painful memories back to Sheldon, but, I'm siding with Leonard. Hypothetically speaking, if my girlfriend had another guy staying overnight at her place, and I didn't know that guy, it'd raise some eyebrows from me.
@@thomashuffman3237 she said she had told him about it, Leonard said she didnt, so we dont know who was right. Then Leonard said Penny was being stupid. I think he had a right to raise his eyebrown and said he was unconfortable with the situation, but he managed very poorly.
Lets be honest here. What guy wouldn't assume that Penny who had a reputation in the past didn't sleep with this guy.
If you actually had seen people close to you fight you would know how sad this is. Really sad.
I hate when my family fights. This happens all the time at family reunions. My mother gets attacked(verbally) by my grandma and step grandfather. My grandparents also fight. THEY also speak Chinese, which I can't, and I CANNOT UNDERSTAND!!!!!!
It is maddening and at some point get sick of it and you don't care about anything. It might even lead you to be apathetic towards your family. I hope you are not there yet though, there might still be a chance for them.
wewelo welo it hurts like the dickens
I come from a Mexican family. We can't go 2 days without screaming and fighting with each other. Family fighting is more of a symbol of our closeness at this point. The only time we don't fight is when something happens to one of us and the rest go and support them.
Not really
I hate fights, like Sheldon, but there's a part of me that wishes I could yell & hold my own in one.
i hate to see close ones fighting each other, but love to see the other types
hell, i celebrated the brexit, trumps wins, and similar events
I cannot stand drama. I am with Sheldon here. I only blow up if someone completely crossed the line.
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Most of the time it's me beating someone up because they offended or pushed me to far
Ikr?!!
So Priya and Stephanie Barnett were "overreacting" because Penny was messing around while they are in relationships with Leonard???
Would you say the same for Penny's behavior about Alex? All i see here is double standards...
For stephanie, she had a point considering she came in as if she slept in those clothes. For priya, just the idea that they went out and they still hang out after so possible feelings remain but she was too afraid of her parents so who cares. For penny with alex, it was nothing more than jealousy and it is not like he did anything with alex.
@@BlackDiamond2718 To be fair, Penny didn't start an argument with Lenoard over Alex.
@@nathanevans1382 The fact that he has done so much for her whether he was dating her or not should mean something. If it does not then Leonard should leave her.
@@nathanevans1382 uhm, yes she did. She threw a fit when she found out that Alex liked Leonard.
@@AxelSW2012 she threw a fit because leonard liked alex flirting with him, not just because alex was flirting
"I heard of them....didn't know they were a band" that gets me every time
Sheldon is seriously the only smartest person in the whole series! Right here in this scene he's clearly trying to stop them both from fighting.
BECAUSE I'M BATMAN in the worst way ever
And ....did he succeed?
Pranav P S if he was batman then yes. You know why?
@@BlackDiamond2718 No.
Pranav P S BECAUSE HE’S BATMAN!!!
I feel for Sheldon. I get anxious when people, even those I don't know or I'm not close with, starts to have heated argument in front or near me.
Me too. When I hear people fighting, I just go away or I put my headphones and watch videos on RUclips, because I have so much fear of fights because my parents always fight, and I don't wanna hear it
Me too
"Would you like a commemorative snowcone?" *SMASHES ORANGE ONTO COUNTER* Omg I love Sheldon
There is no way that an old ex wouldn't try to seduce her. Leonard is right here.
@@sparrow1284 well I was talking from my country's point of view bitches here are crazzzy.
@@thelegalconversations450 True
@@leahkent147 Thats the lamest excuse. Flirting with other people or not maintaining your boundaries with other people is just disrespectful towards your partner. The guy staying with penny inside her room is disrespectful as fuck to Leonard, whether or not something happens.
If not, why the couch then? Just sleep in the bed together. Why make the friend uncomfortable on the couch?
In my relationship, if someone finds me attractive and wants me and I know it, then I MUST separate myself from her and make my intent very clear out of respect for my partner. We have to have boundaries in relationships. This is forgotten among people today. No wonder most of the relationships are miserable.
@@Ntnt11 you are correct.
Somebody wrote along rebuttal. I didn't bother to finish reading it, it was the typical answer that ignored your points just to make theirs
@@thelegalconversations450 "got your back Jack, bitches be crazy"
As a divorce child, I perfectly understand Sheldon's situation in this episode. It feels terrible when you hear two people close to you fight and you're standing right in the middle of it with no power to resolve it.
Leonard should have calmly told her how it made him feel instead of talking down to her, however, Penny is def in the wrong more. It is one thing to have a friend sleep on your couch a few days but a ex-boyfriend NOPE. To me its not a matter of trust it about showing respect to the person you are with at the time.
Penny is a selfish BIATCH. Nuff said.
It’s fictional but yes.
Moreover she didn't mention it to him at all. Not that she needed his permission, but when you're in a monogamous relationship, it's the right thing to do to at least run it by your partner.
But Leonard was already mad even before he knew about Justin and Penny having a thing in the past (not that I think that matters, you can be friends with your ex). If she said she is helping out a friend by letting him sleep on her couch, why can't he take her at her word? He is basically interrogating her and assuming things, and it's clear that he does not trust her.
If someone pulled this stunt with me that would be the end of it. There is nothing more toxic to a relationship than being unable to trust your partner.
@@rkah6187 so how is being dumped feel like ?
'Why not just rent out bunk beds and invite the Black Eyed Peas' 😂
"Roll the dice, Leonard." is like "Don't start the fight, Leonard."
This was sad in a different way. Like a silent plea. 💔💔
In a "healthy relationship" she should have told him about the guy in the first place.
And what about Penny's attitude toward Alex?! Hypocrisy it is.
Stefan exactly. It's like telling your kids not to drink, but you've got 5 cans of a six pack emptied right next to you. It's like telling your kids not to smoke, but you're lighting a cigarette right in front of them,
In Penny's defence, she didn't cause a fight over Alex.
@@nathanevans1382 lmao she did. She acted like its leonards fault he got hit on
@@nathanevans1382 she made Leonard apologize on his knees for being hitted on.
@@MalucoDoPao Define "made", because from what I remember, Lenoard knocked on her door and played his cello on one knee COMPLETELY of his own accord... I'm hoping you just forgot that.
if i was Leonard, i would've broken up with her right there, no she is not obligated to follow Leonard's rule, she can do whatever she wants, but when you are in a relationship you shouldn't think only about yourself and your own side, you need to consider your partner's side and feelings, if i had an ex gf crashing on my couch for the weekend, no matter WHO i was dating at the time, she would instantly get mad, angry and a fight would 100% happen, i think Leonard lost his cool, he should've said "Its fine, you want to have your ex boyfriend sleeping on your couch and didn't ever bothered to tell me? then we are done, get the hell out of here and good luck with your life, BYE!" remember.. is "TELL HIM" not "ASK FOR PERMISSION" two different concepts, she should've INFORMED him, not ASKED FOR PERMISSION. but yeah i would've kicked her out of my place and then would go after someone who cared more about my feelings and had more respect towards "us" as a couple.
She is not obligated to ask him permission to do Anything, and he is not bound to keep dating her if she behaves in such a selfish way, period.. Break up and find someone better, way easier than dealing with drama
Just Koji who hurt you bro?
Tarcizio Antunes anyone who disagrees with u is a hoe lol.
@@AhiskaTurk96 okay mr edgelord
Plus the lamest excuse "this is my life"?? Lmao 😂 anybody using that statement as an excuse don't deserve to have any serious relationship at all.
At first you can hear her telling him "I told you about him" and Leonard saying "No you didn't". She probably did tell him that she would have a friend over, but he forgot or didn't paid enough attention. Point being, she (at the very least thought) she had already told him, so it's not like she didn't care to tell him and Leonard came home to see a stranger in Penny's house.
leonards reaction is perfectly reasonable
It's really not
It is
You must have no self-respect
Not only reasonable he is completely right
As much as I like Penny, Leonard is in the right in this argument
Sheldon is such a sweetie- just like when he was a kid, he hates the sound of fighting.
I feel very sorry for Sheldon. He put a lot of effort into making a game, but Penny and Leonard ruined it with their childish fight. They really don't treat him as he deserves.
He deserves better
Sheldon is my spirit animal 🤣 I relate to him so freaking much is hilarious, and I would do the exact same thing if there were a fight because I hate conflict and arguing
Luka No joke, my parents actually call me "Sheldon" as a nickname.
the end of this video where sheldon's actions convey anger but the tone of his voice seems perfectly calm made me wonder if he really knows a lot more of how others feel about him but never know how to express it in a certain mood or when to express it, this is because the tone of his voice may mean that he is trying to not act angrily since he knows leonard had a bad interaction
It's often in these kind of relationships with a pretty girl and a geeky guy that the girl tries to control every aspect and the guy just always lets her have her way. As crazy as Leonard is about Penny, it's good to see they treat each other on an equal level.
It's like Sheldon went back on time to watch his parents fight in the present.
As a person who is really bad at science if I hang out with Sheldon Leonard Raj and Howard I would be taking notes and reviewing them since they actually make it more fun than school
Exactly. I know the show made it look like they were bad at teaching and stuff but if I were hanging out with them, it would be extremely interesting to see them do all science-y stuff.
Totally not ok to have an old flame stay with you while you're in a relationship with someone.
To me it is. I trust my gf.
Lucuck Brasi
@@LucaBrasi0 good luck getting cheated on, hope you don't hear about it.
@@Happy-mx9ds Not really, it isn't. Not if you love the person you're with, anyway. If you can be "seduced", I'd wonder what is not right with your relationship.
@@wakilinathannjoroge835 Because neurotic insecurity is sooooo attractive.
When I was a kid, my mom and stepdad use to fight all the time. Wasn’t till I got older and realized that they’re reasons for fighting were ridiculous and there was no need to worry. Besides they always made up, 5 minutes later. 😂
Leonard shouldve said "ok theres the door, peace out."
Exactly
I feel for Sheldon. My parents used to fight a lot and when they did I would always make myself scarce
First time, I saw Leonard stand for himself... Got to express things which may be right or wrong.
SHELDON : Has your relation reached to its ugly inevitable end, I quote this to all my friends, and wish that one day I am correct..
I wisg I had thought if that when my mother and step father were fighting. It might have saved them three decades of a loveless marraige.
I just love Sheldon 😂😂😂
I'm like Sheldon when my mom and sister fight.
Sheldon’s heart is in the right place this time when he created a game and encouraged his friends to play. However his friends decided to fight and it hit Sheldon on a different level because it’s his parents Mary and George arguing all over again.
Penny: I told you about him.
Leonard: No, you did not.
You could even tell Penny was lying she is horrible at it
Sheldon is like me. I could never handle my parents fighting. They are fighting upto this very moment 😂. It actually gave me life long trauma
I wonder if they will address this on young Sheldon for him to act that way he must have seen some crazy fights in his youths
2:58 That voice crack 😂😂
It was cute
@@lillylovesrain7072 yes
I definitely think Penny was wrong in this case. She definitely was not being sensitive to Lenoreds feelings.
He CANNOT dictate whether or not she has the right to have her friend stay over, but yeah, she should have mentioned it.
Rachel Johnson Well right. He can't make decisions for her but she should have been more sensitive to his feelings.
She should have mentioned it and asked him how he felt about it, but she did not need to ask for his permission.
Rachel Johnson right. Its just that she wasn't considerte of his feelings that bothers me.
@Rachel Johnson Penny is famous for sleeping around so I don't blame Leonard for feeling insecure.
Personally I think Penny is the wrong here. While I'm not in any way saying Leonard is the right either, he should show more trust in her, but in this instance, she's definitely the one who's in the wrong here. I'm NOT saying she should abandon her friend either, but she's basically just sitting there not caring about Leonard's feelings at all, she should've at least been more understanding because she's been on that side of the pond too yet she has the gulls to bitch about Leonard's feelings.
Not only that, but she also has a track record of getting dicking him around at first in the relationship, and then breaks up with him. On top of that, she leeches off of the guys for food and internet and all that stuff just because the guys (besides Sheldon) thought she was hot. So seriously, she's technically the one who's wrong here.
She probably overreacted a little to let him know that she will not let anyone control her. He needed to know that. After all, they were still just getting to know each other as bf and gf.
Actually she wasn't wrong here at all 1st off Leonard allowed her to do all those things too him & Sheldon on a daily basis she even told him on countless occasions if he had a problem to tell her about it but because he is such a gutless control freak she continued to do it to them ? Besides their not married it's not his apartment it's hers so how can Leonard tell her who she can & can't have over like really Penny's a grown woman Leonard needed to realize for so long he liked her but she didn't like him like that he finally get's her & now he wants to be a man instead of a loser ass nerd hell nah dude should be grateful she even gave him the time of day to be honest so Leonard is in the wrong not Penny.
Leonard definitely can't tell her what to do.. but that's not the point.. she's hot yes but they're in a relationship 'n Penny should be in it for her feeling for Leonard.. I'm not saying Leonard was right, they both approached the problem poorly, but she could've been more considerate toward his feelings 'n he should've trusted her decisions~
@playstationsteve Penny was completely wrong here. Given her track record of sleeping around, I don't blame Leonard for feeling jealous and insecure. She should've given him a heads up about having a guest, and especially if he was going to crash on her couch. No one owns each other but it's still rude not to say anything.
naah penny is not wrong here but yes about the part that she used the guys earlier here if she doesnt care for leonard n will cheat on him then Leonard must acknowledge it n break up or let her go u cant lock someone up from meeting hotter prospect to keep them in life.. u actually wanna get rid of such persons in ur life. So leonard is absolutely wrong here. they r not living together to get any permission for any household inconvinience.
This needs 10 more seasons
I love Sheldon in this scene omg
thank god I was too young to remember my parents fighting.
when Sheldon kept playing the game and both of em are fighting, i know Sheldon is compressing that present reality by continuing the game cause he hates people fighting (distracting himself), and in this case Leonard and Penny are in a relationship
poor Sheldon he was trying to
ignore the fight
It probably remined of his parents fighting :(
Leonard is right here
Yes. She should have asked him if it was Ok.
@@thomashuffman3237 he is grown man with a phd, not a child.
Latin Ace i don't know if "ask" is correct. at the end of the day, it is her apartment and her couch. but she could've at least considered his feelings and tried to reach a compromise. maybe while jason was staying in her place, she could've asked leonard to stay with him. it's just across the hall, after all.
@Zara Maria Dixon if she loves Leonard and doesnt want to upset him she SHOULD ask him if its ok. Who's more important in her life, her boyfriend or a friend she hardly sees.
@Zara Maria Dixon that's not the point. U still need to ask ur partner and not be inconsiderate. Just because he can trust her doesnt mean hes gotta trust the friend
Seriously, Leonard and Penny get it together and make a scene elsewhere, not in front of Sheldon.
poor Sheldon he tried so hard to calm it down lol
I'm with Leonard on this one.... Penny's ex is going to be living with her for a couple of days and he's probably a lot better looking that Leonard so ofcourse he's gonna feel insecure! Also, when Alex flirted with Leonard, Penny got mad. So according to her logic, Leonard can't get mad due to a situation created by Penny HOWEVER, Penny can get get mad at Leonard because a situation that wasn't in is hands.
I love this show!!!
Its a good job Sheldon found Amy
Aww poor Sheldon blending ice to drown out the noise 😔
Penny was in the wrong. You never have a guy stay with you in your apartment when you’re with a man. That’s fucked up.!
I got to see the cyclotron a couple of times... it is amazing
Commemorative snow cone... I think we all know what's in that. MOTHS! :D
Gotta love this series, and especially Sheldon!
Poor Sheldon... Even when trying to congratulate Leonard after the fact, you can see he's upset by the way he tossed the lemon back into the bowl
I like that they are dating again too, but in honesty, Penny is freakin' gorgeous and it's EXTREMELY hard to have the same amount of trust as Penny has on Leonard.... I wish they gave Alex's role more of a push to where she could impact Penny just a little bit more
Uh she doesn’t have trust in him, a girl flirted with him and she threw a temper tantrum
Edit: read that as 8 months fml
I know Leonard has a track record of being insecure but lets be honest hear who wouldn't take issue with their women having another guy stay her place.
Though Leonard did handle the argument pretty poorly. 🤔
sheldon was so mad at the end he threw it .. loved it :*
man he was so proud off his game :D I love it when Sheldon's like that
Love the show so much, yet I do think penny is wrong here I mean double standards if Leonard did that he would be the bad one. If they are in a relationship they should come to an agreement on this friend.
When you notice Sheldon somehow doing commentary on their fight...
You know how Sheldon throws down his orange after he made a snowcone?
I do that too, except the orange lands on people.
movecount I'm out of here *running really really fast*😨
Look people, both of them are in the wrong for various reasons. Communication was not used here at all. Penny should have given Leonard a heads up that she was going to have an ex boyfriend stay with her. No Leonard does not have the right to dictate who she allows into her apartment or to stay with her. Penny should understand where Leonard is coming from about an ex staying with her. Yes Leonard should trust Penny more. The best compramise for a situation like this is to have her ex stay with Leonard and Sheldon. This ensures that the dude isn't out on his ass, Penny still gets to see him, and Leonard can get to know him to try and be friends with him.
That plan will fail because Sheldon should approve the guy crashing in their couch first, something that could not happened.
Don't take it too far. It's just a show. But if it happened in your life, I'm sorry to hear that.
My personal opinion is it depends on how long Leonard and Penny were dating. From what I understand it wasn't more than several months.
Why would one wants to be friends with one's bf/gf 's ex?? What would ones talk about? Hey i tapped that, multiple times a day, does she allow you to to stick it from behind? No thanks.
@@Wizardwiwizard People still have stuff in common after they broke up. Look at this show. Penny and Leonard and Sheldon and Amy still stayed friends after they broke up. I give you that it is awkward but people make it work.
"We must not be playing it right." (grin)
hahaha!
I have the same thing with sheldon and people in relationships fighting.
It's my friend, it's my couch and it is my freaking life
Ro Ro Ro Ur Boat Then, Leonard should have said "Fine. Get out, live your life the way you want. Bye!"
Someone who has a mindset like that doesn’t deserve to be in a relationship..... selfish brat who thinks only themselves that matter.... everything is yours except good and long lasting relationship lol
Penny’s really self centered thinking she can have some guy crash at her place
Sometimes some people can be too nice that they consider other people's feelings over their significant other.
Sheldon is a friggin legend!
"Would you like a commeritive snow cone?"
I love Sheldon. He's fantastic and awesome ^^
Chills every time.
penny could have stayed over at leonards the night her friend was sleeping at her couch if he was so worried
no what if he stole penny's stuff?
true shit tho
+haniaaniq "... for a few weeks," not one night.
@@dubshouse1169 but according to her isn't Jason her GOOD FRIEND dats why she is letting him stay
Or he could of just slept with her
Not a popular opinion but I always thought that Leonard always deserved someone better.
Considering Penny's past, her sleeping with Raj while being drunk and her general behaviour.
Leonard deserves someone like Priya or his ex-girlfriend who was a Dr.
gotta love how he slams the orange half back into the bowl :)
LMAO i had no idea sheldon was mad at the end until he threw down the orange HAHA.
Damn Penny is a HORRIBLE girlfriend.
aw poor sheldon i had a friend who came to me when his parents fought this reminded me of him.
Leonard is right, he knows the intentions of guy being alone in a room with a girl despite the guy is just a 'friend'
No he's not. If men expect their girlfriends to be okay with them having female friends then women should also be allowed to have male friends. It's all about trust!
@@arundhati1255 The trust is super risky, if the friend has feelings and thinks its fine being friends may guilt the opposite sex and feel seduced
@@thaneindranaidu8688 no that only happens if the person is not loyal to their partner. Trust is the foundation of any relationship.
@@arundhati1255 In this case, Leonard is right because Penny is easily distracted
@@thaneindranaidu8688 Penny never cheated on Leonard even when he was at sea or in the north pole. She has always been loyal to him. The only time she was in a compromised situation was when she slept with Raj but even then Leonard and Penny were not dating so that wouldn't count.
Leonard is so wrong here. It is silly to fight about these things. He should've ended that relationship the second Penny said an ex boyfriend was gonna be sleeping in her couch. What Leonard always lacked was self-esteem and self-respect and that is why he ended up marrying a Very Low Value Woman. And let me be clear: it's not her fault, it is Leonard's
Penny frankly doesn't need Leonard's permission to help out an ex. If you decide to break up with your partner if they mention helping out an ex, then the problem is you because you admit you don't trust them.
You’re missing the point. You shouldn’t even HAVE to deal with that in the first place. It’s extremely disrespectful and gross to have an ex sleep over and pretend like there’s nothing wrong with it when you are in a relationship. That’s absolutely whorish, controlling, and gaslighting behavior
What´s makes it a big deal is that hasn´t told him about Justins visit.
She is inconsiderate about Leonards feelings and if it would be the other way around she would have been furious at Leonard.
I read the title and was like, “ooh! Someone uploaded all 12 seasons! Oh goodie!”
PENNY ALWAYS PLAYS WITH LEONARD FEELINGS AND THE ONLY THINK SHE REALLY MATTER IS HAVE A SLAVE WHEN HE JUST WALK QUIT...
I would love that board game!
sheldon's game sounded actually fun ngl
Oh no, I did look at it from his perspective, but I couldn't fit it all in there. And you're right, that's what Leonard's problem was. What was really sad later in the episode, was that Raj agreed with Penny lol
Penny's in the wrong this time. Leonard, as her boyfriend, should have a say in weather a guy can stay IN HER HOME, just as Penny should have a say in weather a girl could live in his home. This comes up later with two different girls, Alex and Stephanie, and for some reason, Penny gets mad at him those times? It makes zero sense.
Because apparently writers think that the woman is always in the right in situations even if the same thing happens later but the roles are reversed
She does not need anyone's permission, especially her boyfriends, to let a guy she knows into HER apartment. Same can be said in reverse: Leonard does not need Penny's permission to allow girls into the apartment. Frankly, with Sheldon as a roommate, if Leonard started to cheat on Penny and he saw it, he would blab right away. So if Sheldon doesn't say anything then that means nothing is going on.
And here's a flaw in your logic: Penny never once cheated on Leonard but he cheated on her several times.
it was just a regular guy friend, it would not be a problem. It's a friend who she used to date and from the sound of it they were just bang buddies. Why is it wrong for Leonard to have a problem with it?
@@TimberlakeTigerGirl good for leonard, he deserved way better
I agree with Penny. Leonard needs to have trust in Penny.. Leonard should have not made a big deal over it. I have been married for 29 years to the same woman, so I know what I'm talking about..trust goes a long way in a relationship .
I thought Penny made up Justin, to avoid playing the game. I found out she really did have such a friend.
I can tell the writing is on point about their relationship (sometimes). Cause I sway back and forth between loving and absolutely hating their relationship. Lol
You can see how Penny changed a looooot as the seasons progress. She used to be a happy go lucky woman who just liked to party and sleep around. As the seasons progress, she is getting more and more comfy doing nerdy stuff like playing board games, video games, even reading comics. Further, she cannot tolerate stupid people anymore.
Penny for me has the most character development in this series.
That's called hitting the wall. She no longer has all these guys chasing after her. Her options started to become limited, compared to when she was in her early 20's to mid 20's. We actually see it on full display in the Valentine episode
The people who take Leonard's side about feeling uncomfortable about Penny's guitarist guy friend, and possible former boyfriend, crashing on her couch for a few weeks, are the same ones who believe Ross and Rachel were on a break.
Leonard and Penny are both in the right and the wrong. For Penny, she can decide who ever had in her apartment. They don't live together or married. However, Penny should have been respectful and less casual of Leonard's of another guy in her home As for Leonard, he should have known more informed of another man in Penny's home, but should have had not e
trust in Penny. Even if the guy's relationship with Penny was like they were after the 1st time they dated.
What do you mean he can’t decide? They’re literally in a relationship.