@DominicIsDumb look don't take it so serious all I Was saying is that the 2016 version showed little to no emotion when it comes to details the Gohan being happy that he died was just a joke I hate to have to explain that to someone through a screen
1995 is haunting. Gohan's eyes are open and completely white, lying motionless in a puddle. Super looks like he fell asleep in the rain. In the original, there's so much more movement and chaos in Trunk's transformation too.
Now that I think about it, it’d be even more tragic that if Gohan actually survived the ki barrage but was too weak to move/turn his head out the puddle and drowned
In super, they made Gohan look peaceful in death, but Gohan knew he couldn't die, he needed to be there for trunks. So in Z, his body looks in pain. It's a good detail that super totally missed
2016 looks kinda awkward when he yells and the animation just freezes. The way trunks face moves in 1995 and the body language makes you feel like he's actually really mad and sad.
@@xz2522 Yes, because they both are the same thing but what you think they are going to but all their time and effort into a flashback? That’s the key difference the 1995 was a movie and other was a flashback 😂
Look at the lines in his face in 1995. DBZ knew what they wanted. They wanted to show pain. Trauma. Loss. Rage. They made sure it was not pretty. They knew to make it violent. To take their time. Just the flashing red light leaves so much of an impact. Its horrible and beautiful and raw all at once, creating a scene that is burned into your mind forever. The remake is just a passionless remake. They "prettied up" the animation. They made death look soft. They didn't use the colours and the environment at all! Everything is clear and spotless and soft. Its... pathetic. It holds nothing in comparison. ...this is an insult, to recreate this scene and to take away from what it was... it would have been kinder just to show the original.
Why does 2016 version look like 1985 lol they skimped on the budget. And the hair flickering to SS was cheesy and awful. Took away from the whole thing. Worst remake I have ever seen
Music, atmosphere, duration, white opened dead eyes, head half drown, face on the ground, Trunks bleeding... EVERYTHING is better in 1995... 2016 really looks chilidsh.. Gohan almost look happy to be dead..
> *"white, opened, dead eyes"* This. Literally this. Gohan was my favorite (Vegeta not withstanding) growing up. So to see those dead eyes. Face down in the water. *Knowing* there wasn't going to be a Shenron to make it better, clawed at my soul. I was right there with Trunks in that moment. Super loses that magic completely. Also, English Dub was better. *That* Trunks Rage spoke to me.
90's version had me crying along with Trunks as a kids. 90's DBZ violence was legit with the fighting you felt the blows. Super on the other hand was neutered... Imagine the tournament of power in the 90's fight scenes would've been ruthless.
Exactly what TOP should of been like. Just straight survival. No killing? Fine. But that doesn't stop breaking arms and legs or even a paralyzing blow. Can't fight effectively(if at all) if you can't move from anything from the waist down.
1995 has such much depth. The way Trunks transforms is very reminiscent of when Goku lost Krillin and also went into a SSJ inducing rage, not to mention Gohan laying face down in the puddle, the absolute indignity really setup the scene.
One small element that is getting under appreciated from the 1995 version is the pulsating red light in the background , that little detail adds such a layer of depth to the scene and I love it!
sageTendo Caulifla:I transformed into super sayian and super sayian 2 because of the tingly feeling in my back Goku:What??!!! Gohan:What??!! But I got super sayian 2 through rage and... Vegeta:BULLSHIT
Milo goten and trunks both transformed without any reason, and don't give me that "they have the blood of super saiyan" shit. Caulifla, Kale and Cabba are fully blooded more developed saiyans so wouldn't they have more of an excuse to acquire super saiyan.
Younes Haffadi awh yeah great point, good argument to why goten and trunks can do it, but that's in Z so I'm gonna take my pants off and let my nostalgia fuck me
Younes Haffadi I was never saying dbs could achieve the same as Z, the saiyans of universe 6 are far more developed as a race, they don't even have tails. Goten and Trunks still did nothing to achieve it's basically cause "I fell like it". I can admit and kinda give trunks a pass because he was in a gravity chamber being forced to train but he still goes super saiyan with a lack of effort it's taken everyone else before him
Younes Haffadi it doesn't even matter cause to be fair super saiyan stopped being special before super, not saying super is better then Z but there's people who look for little nit picks about the series but I can see the complaints of the show like the first 2 arcs but besides that people are making it look worse then it is.
@@burningsexuality1540 Toriyama changed that. It's not due to poor animation. Went from a gag-manga to shonen battle manga then that translated to the anime.
I personally wouldn't say entirely. I really liked the scene in the Tournament of Power where Master Roshi delivers his most powerful kamehameha wave in order to defeat his opponent shortly followed up by him dying and Goku saving his life. That scene was one of the best in all of Super and I believe that there was a lot of nostalgia and emotion in there, especially for the fans that watched from the very beginning when Goku was a kid since Roshi was essentially like Goku's second father. But hey, that's just my opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own :)
DBZ absolutely destroys DBS in everything from atmosphere, to coloring (Fuck you bright colored blue haired Trunks), to the emotion and shot of the scene.
I like the old animations because they look actually written as to where super looks kind of made by computers if you know what i mean. Everything looks like it was made for kids.
Everything is animated digitally for Super, making it all new, brighter lighting, highlights on the character, etc. The scene in 1992 is animated hand drawn on traditional paper. The color palette is different as well, suiting the mood more. That's basically what you're saying, right?
BaDx ZyNer yea the animation was better too but the term was used incorrectly so I felt the need to correct him. And it’s not like they didn’t care with Super. They just had a terrible schedule at the time and Yamamuro’s plastic character sheets made things even worse. And due to this lack of time everyone suffered (animators in particular) meaning it doesn’t matter how good of an artist you are if you don’t have the time to produce art properly
Whats lost meaning is that Trunks is supposed to strike the ground AFTER he turns Ssj to symbolize that though he has attained the strength to help Gohan, its too late and that strength is in vain. Now he can only use that strength to strike the ground in despair, knowing he cant bring Gohan back.
I never realized how the background impacted the scene. Gohan's lifeless corpse facedown in a puddle around a fallen, destroyed city really hits home how badly they have lost to the androids.
I hate the new animation style. Everything is so smooth and shiny. It makes them look like fucking dolls and makes expressing emotions way more difficult. You can't honestly tell me then new one portrays even half of the pain Trunks would actually be feeling.
Yeah for dramatic/intense scenes like this, I definitely prefer the old animation style. The rough aspect only amplifies how "rough" the situation is. It gives it more flavor. What's more is the effects with the surroundings when Trunks is pounding that shit. Way more impactful. It's less about just "adding those effects in" and more about how the key animators are convey those effects from imagination to final product
The 2016 one was just a fucking flashback for crying out loud. Good lord, compare a flashback to a fucking TV special. Good job there. Of course the fucking emotions wouldn't be there. Its a flashback....
MultiTarded bog was good animation except for THAT episode rof was terrible universe 6 v 7 was great goku black arc also great TOP had amazing animation
@MultiTarded I don't wanna hear Adequate for TOP. As much as I love DBZ and DB. I can't deny Jiren vs MUI Goku was the best Dragon Ball has looked period. Not my favourite fight, but in pure animation it was stunning. Of course the Broly movie looks better but that goes without saying. Hell, even the final fight in Super looks astounding. And that final shot of Goku and Freeza is so awesome. I get DBZ is this treasure in the internet but saying Super is entirely poor looking is just wrong. However the scene in the video is shit lmao.
@MultiTarded I totally agree that Super was less consistent, the angles and death scense were far superior in Z, and pretty much anything else you said. Though if we're talking looks I still think MUI Goku vs Jiren looks fantastic. I will say it's flashy and sometimes annoying but I do think it looked nice. If nothing else, the art and models were on point. Still I see what you mean and totally respect that.
2016 lacks: Color of tone to fit the atmosphere. Contrast of darkness Voice acting Anger and heart break Gohan looks unconscious from having too many beers rather than flat face dead like in 1995 ...Not even a comparison.
This is always why I will consider GT the true ending. Super just has so many things off and feels like a true kids show. No dark tone or shading with humor
Buddy, have you considered actually comparing the effort a certain 90s show made compared to a 2010s show? The 2016 scene wasn't good because they didn't really want to give it any proper impact and just wanted it to explain Trunk's backstory. They didn't bother making it just as bleak as the original. The 1995 special was meant to make the audience feel for Trunks and realize just how messed up and bleak his world was, hence a greater emphasis on Trunk's pain and the realization of the audience of just how tragic the death of the last Z fighter is. There are plenty of shows post the 90s that do similar kinds of emotional and grim storytelling. Every era had good stuff and bad stuff overall. What matters is how much effort the producers and writers of said works made in the making of those shows. You can say that storytelling in the Dragon Ball franchise peaked in the 90s but there are plenty of franchises and new shows that have peak writing in this era. Just because some franchises did better in the past that today doesn't mean all franchises did better then than now.
+Jose Valencia I know but they, I don't know, there was something different besides the animation, the voices weren't as emotional, they needed somewhat more sad music but not too much, they didn't portray the despair trunks felt very well
In Super he looks like hes taking a nap. But in the original his eyes were empty but still you can see that he fought for his life until the bitter end.
Super is mostly fine. The only nostalgia-tards are the ones that insist that DBZ is some sacred cow, as it were. God damn, DBZ had some shit animation that could compare to episode 5 of DBS. So many off model shots, and Goku's first transformation was ruined by completely dorky hair. Seriously, look at how many times they messed up making his hair look any sort of decent when he fought Freeza. The "DBS sucks" circlejerk is just kinda tiring.
Trunks saying goodbye to Gohan in Xenoverse 2 is even more sad. If you really think about it, Trunks has a pretty sad life. These random androids come out of nowhere and begin killing millions of innocent people, all of his friends, and his best friend/mentor, setting him off. Even when he goes Super Saiyan, he still can't defeat the androids. He goes back into the past to warn everyone, and then creates a *new* enemy as a result, causing another reason for him to hate himself. I feel bad for him.
“If you really think about it, Trunks has a pretty sad life.” Dude if you didn’t put an ounce of thought into it you could figure it out. What were YOU thinking when you wrote that?
The original is far better, but to be fair, the super version is them recapping it, the original is it actually happening, so obviously more was put into the happening one
They used original footage of Trunk's when his hair was purple before. However they greyed out the colours so you couldn't see what his old hair colour was
1995 has the very deeply expressed darkness and sadness along with having a much more angular and aggressive art style which makes it way better than the 2016 version
You know what pisses me off about this is the fact that Dragon Ball Z makes millions alone but THIS!!! This is trash i think it is a disgrace it could have been done better Even the fucking Xenoverse looks good and honestly i thought that looked like the show when i had my glasses off only reason i could tell was it was from a game at the last second was because of the skin it looks spot on though i mean look at that fuck me people these links people just insulting i honestly have never cried during a movie and this scene almost made me cry static1.gamespot.com/uploads/original/280/2802776/3082512-futuretrunks.jpg images.pushsquare.com/news/2016/06/e3_2016_dragon_ball_xenoverse_2_blasts_into_e3_with_brand_new_gameplay/attachment/0/original.jpg What makes it worse is the fact that Dragon Ball Z games can only get better from here i mean imagine the power if PC took over the graphics alone would murder DBS no wait Pokemon has a better track record of their anime too WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CLEARLY you can tell the first clip the animators poured their hearts into guiding you through the emotional empathy you could connect with Honestly though it looks like they just rushed showing you how he became super sayian and said "oh and gohan died too"
Nah, this new version in Super is an insult. In the original, you really felt bad for Trunks. He has the most emotional transformation of them all. It brought tears to my eyes. You could almost feel his pain. The Super version is just trash. In the original you could see him slowly transforming, like it's breaking out. Not in Super. Par for the course in Super. Not a single transformation in Super is even cool to see.
And in the original the way gohan body looks makes everything more heart breaking but in supers version they made it look like he died a peaceful death
I mean I'm not saying I don't enjoy the original one (The Funimation dub one, not the Japanese dub), but honestly, the 2016 one was cut short and paid less attention to because it was a short flash back scene. A lot of super is good once you get past the movie arcs that should have never been redone, and some of it they cut corners on for sure.
1995. Why? way way way more emotional and the animation is out of this world amazing and just literally DRIPPING in detail. and the cinematography in Z is just superior in every single way. Super's is nothing but inferrior. the animation is typical super. it's disappointingly crap. Just look at trunk's static face at 0:34...it's fucking awful. you don't see shit like that in original dragon ball and Z. Compare Trunk's screaming in the 1995 version, it's spot on and his mouth/face is trembling as he's screaming.
Its cause in 2000 they banned sugaku which gave more detail to frames and allowed blood but since 2004 they had to stop cause they had to upload a episode atleast 1 week a day or not
@@karimm2 a art style the old Japanese anime had where every second you pause theirs animation but now that anime is popular to even the USA they are some out more recently so they cant do sugaku
U have to understand that the 1995 version was a dedicated movie special. Trunks transformation was the emotional crux of a dragon ball Z movie. This 2016 scene is filler practically (flashback to fill up time), so it’s not gonna the attention the 1995 version got.
It's the little things that matter. Super is in a word: clichéd. They just slap stuff together and say "alright this thing is right here let's move on". What you see in Z is believable as well as relatable. Trunks isn't just in distress, he's in misery. His eyes are leaking tears so fast you cant tell when the crying ends and the rain begins. The way he walks towards Gohan as though he were half alive, the way he stammers his name, totally in denial, clutching his lifeless body irrationally, the way he screams, clenching his fists until it bled, overcome with grief, anger, resentment, desperation. All of this with a committedly bleak and hopeless atmosphere and you have yourself a solid emotion. Super doesn't care about the authenticity of what it presents as a medium. This comparison is just a one to one slideshow of what I mean.
Good god man chill out, of course the old one would be better, It was made for a tv special and it was the first time we had seen this story before. The 2016 one was a recap in a 20 minute tv episode, why would they throw all their best animation into something they already made before?
1995 hands down, THIS is how you become a Super Saiyan, not some tingly ass feeling on your back lol, heck you can even listen, no, better said you can FEEL it as if it was your own sorrow and sadness, from his full fledged anger to pure RAGE.
The new trunks literally looks like he can’t move his eyes at all, like his eyes don’t really change, but the old one was insanely better and more emotional, like just look at his expressions in the old one, he looks so good
Dark tones, pouring rain, a half buried face lifeless in a puddle, fists clenched until they bleed, and even the close-ups. Even muted, 1995 is better, because it visually gives you the fury and pain of losing Gohan (I'm literally tearing up just writing this). I love and defend Super in many ways, but they need to let go of the past. People want blood. They hate censorship, no matter the age. Why? Because it takes from the realism of the situation. Case in point.
1995 Future Gohan: Laying face down dead against the ground as result of a tragic battle. 2016 Future Gohan: Thank God I'm dead and this is my only scene in Super.
Five moments in DBZ history nobody likes to mock: 1. Goku turning SSJ for the 1st time 2. Gohan's rage after Cell kills #16 3. Future Trunks coming across Gohan's corpse 4. Goku turning SSJ3 in front of Buu 5. Vegeta scarifying himself to kill Buu
The original one, Trunks squeezing his hands so hard in rage that they start to bleed. Got chills from that. Very powerful and sad
I didn't realize that until now
evilTaker90V2-........that was Gohan’s blood
Sjj Lemon that wasn’t..
Noah M. It was....
@@sjj3lemon267 nope
1995 gohan: actually dead
2016 gohan: is just sleeping, tbh he looked happy that he died
Lmaoo
xDD
The 1995 dub was also better than the sub
hahahahhahahahaha
@DominicIsDumb look don't take it so serious all I Was saying is that the 2016 version showed little to no emotion when it comes to details the Gohan being happy that he died was just a joke I hate to have to explain that to someone through a screen
1995 is haunting. Gohan's eyes are open and completely white, lying motionless in a puddle. Super looks like he fell asleep in the rain. In the original, there's so much more movement and chaos in Trunk's transformation too.
Now that I think about it, it’d be even more tragic that if Gohan actually survived the ki barrage but was too weak to move/turn his head out the puddle and drowned
@@TaeSunWooI think they drowned him in my opinion. Cus when he got blasted he was looking up.
@@wearedestinyyththat's true but like his head could have hit the ground, bounced off and fell down like that
In super, they made Gohan look peaceful in death, but Gohan knew he couldn't die, he needed to be there for trunks. So in Z, his body looks in pain. It's a good detail that super totally missed
Ikr Gohan's body looked like he did the most trying to hang on against the androids but died knowing he put a heavy burden on his student
2016 looks kinda awkward when he yells and the animation just freezes. The way trunks face moves in 1995 and the body language makes you feel like he's actually really mad and sad.
2016 trunks 1995 trunks has the same feeling
@@r4zencd120 fuck no.
1995 are amazing
Thank you man
@@xz2522 Yes, because they both are the same thing but what you think they are going to but all their time and effort into a flashback? That’s the key difference the 1995 was a movie and other was a flashback 😂
@@r4zencd120 you're a clown
1995 version is insanely better.
Vini Gers same seiyuu tho
Vini Gers the voice acting was shit tho in 1995 in my opinion
I Agree
Vini Gers nope
Well their opinion is wrong and stupid. The 1995 version shits on the 2016 version in every single logical way, there's just zero argument.
1995: Gohan actually dead
2016: "Trunks shut the f*ck up! Imt rying to nap!"
Look at the lines in his face in 1995.
DBZ knew what they wanted. They wanted to show pain. Trauma. Loss. Rage. They made sure it was not pretty. They knew to make it violent. To take their time. Just the flashing red light leaves so much of an impact. Its horrible and beautiful and raw all at once, creating a scene that is burned into your mind forever.
The remake is just a passionless remake. They "prettied up" the animation. They made death look soft. They didn't use the colours and the environment at all! Everything is clear and spotless and soft. Its... pathetic. It holds nothing in comparison.
...this is an insult, to recreate this scene and to take away from what it was... it would have been kinder just to show the original.
Spitting Facts
Man speaks the truth
New one legit made me laugh
Why does 2016 version look like 1985 lol they skimped on the budget. And the hair flickering to SS was cheesy and awful. Took away from the whole thing. Worst remake I have ever seen
Tbh history of trunks was released in 1992 or early 1993 when cell saga still around
I feel bad for anyone who thinks the 2016 animation is better than this emotional masterpiece
Z fanboy
Shido Itsuka Excuse me for not being blind
Xavier820 1995 is way better right?
Honestly, I never understood why people kept saying dbs was terrible, but, that was terrible
Like most Super fans are lol. I can't believe people are saying Super is better than Z. LUDICROUS.
Music, atmosphere, duration, white opened dead eyes, head half drown, face on the ground, Trunks bleeding... EVERYTHING is better in 1995... 2016 really looks chilidsh.. Gohan almost look happy to be dead..
HAHAHA Gohan almost looked happy to be dead ... u are killing me xD
One was a movie- the other one was a flashback from a weekly release with a limited budget lol..
> *"white, opened, dead eyes"*
This. Literally this. Gohan was my favorite (Vegeta not withstanding) growing up. So to see those dead eyes. Face down in the water. *Knowing* there wasn't going to be a Shenron to make it better, clawed at my soul. I was right there with Trunks in that moment. Super loses that magic completely. Also, English Dub was better. *That* Trunks Rage spoke to me.
Can’t say a blame him
This is why i love the dbz movies. The brutality they showed was top notch
2016: Trunks is acting.
1995: Trunks is living this personally.
90's version had me crying along with Trunks as a kids. 90's DBZ violence was legit with the fighting you felt the blows. Super on the other hand was neutered... Imagine the tournament of power in the 90's fight scenes would've been ruthless.
The blood... blood just everywhere, Goku and his friends will be more expressive of their injuries.
Imagine that one scene when everyone thought Frieza killed that yard rat
Exactly what TOP should of been like. Just straight survival. No killing? Fine. But that doesn't stop breaking arms and legs or even a paralyzing blow. Can't fight effectively(if at all) if you can't move from anything from the waist down.
Super looks like when you were a kid trying to turn super saiyan
😭😭😭😭
That gave me a good laugh ngl
Including lice itch. 🤣🤣🤣
I wish dragon ball existed in real life and we can become sayains
@@r4zencd120 Haha me too
1995: GOOOOHHHAAAANNNNNNN!!!
2016: Gohan wake up you're Drunk...
Majin Inkling 😂😂😂
Majin Inkling lol
Majin Inkling pretty much
Majin Inkling pretty much 1995 wins
2016 this gonna be Family Friendly
1995 has such much depth.
The way Trunks transforms is very reminiscent of when Goku lost Krillin and also went into a SSJ inducing rage, not to mention Gohan laying face down in the puddle, the absolute indignity really setup the scene.
Gohan in dbs taking a nap fr
Rage moments to unlock ssj in Z....
Unlike this stupid "tingling feeling" in super
One small element that is getting under appreciated from the 1995 version is the pulsating red light in the background , that little detail adds such a layer of depth to the scene and I love it!
I showed this to my sister, she thought the 2016 version was a fan made because of how bad it is.
+Erusenuto84 ha! ur pic has a face to macth ur comment😂!
is your sis animation certified........
ITSAllorNutn It's her job,yes.
+Aowa Deviantart Damn that's cool must be an awesome sis XD
is your profile picture being well how do I say this hmm oh I know getting fucked
Super just looks soulless.
This isnt super it is Z jokes on you
@@mystic_memes3059 not funny or clever. What are you even trying to do with that lie?
@@mystic_memes3059 Are you slow? The comment was about super being soulless. Z just has more soul than super.
Accurate AF
I don't know about you guys but I see the same amount of soul in both shows
This scene is really a good exemple of what we lost in 20 years. Not only in DBZ. Internet and technology has killed our soul.
The fuck
You only think that maybe because your only point of reference is Dragon ball LMAO get a grip
bro thinks internet and technology didnt exist in 1995
@@internetcatgirl6063even 2006 nobody was that much influenced by and attached to the internet as 2010s and up
Defintely 1995 version. The tears coming down his face and the pure rage squeezing his hands so tight they started to bleed till finally it erupts.
1995 All the way!
Better atmosphere, better art style, better animation, more emotion! Enough said.
And this thrill... :D
Agreed
Of course
Definitely Right ! 👍
who ever says no is retarted
2017 :
Feeling a tingle in your back makes you a ssj
sageTendo so true -.-
Retarded comment
Only in U6.
sageTendo
Caulifla:I transformed into super sayian and super sayian 2 because of the tingly feeling in my back
Goku:What??!!!
Gohan:What??!! But I got super sayian 2 through rage and...
Vegeta:BULLSHIT
"Retarded Comment"?
Buu: You're missing the point.
He scratched his head in 2016 like he got lice. 💀 no sir
21 years go by since 1995 and we are 21 years behind in terms of production quality apparently.
DBZ went so hard...
Meanwhile caulifla.
Just goes ssj because she has a tingle feeling in her back.
k
Oh.
Milo goten and trunks both transformed without any reason, and don't give me that "they have the blood of super saiyan" shit. Caulifla, Kale and Cabba are fully blooded more developed saiyans so wouldn't they have more of an excuse to acquire super saiyan.
Younes Haffadi awh yeah great point, good argument to why goten and trunks can do it, but that's in Z so I'm gonna take my pants off and let my nostalgia fuck me
Younes Haffadi I was never saying dbs could achieve the same as Z, the saiyans of universe 6 are far more developed as a race, they don't even have tails. Goten and Trunks still did nothing to achieve it's basically cause "I fell like it". I can admit and kinda give trunks a pass because he was in a gravity chamber being forced to train but he still goes super saiyan with a lack of effort it's taken everyone else before him
Younes Haffadi it doesn't even matter cause to be fair super saiyan stopped being special before super, not saying super is better then Z but there's people who look for little nit picks about the series but I can see the complaints of the show like the first 2 arcs but besides that people are making it look worse then it is.
Super lost the raw essence of dragon ball.
👍👏
It’s too flashy
@@slim2845 So did Z
@@burningsexuality1540 Toriyama changed that. It's not due to poor animation. Went from a gag-manga to shonen battle manga then that translated to the anime.
The raw essence? Do you idiots just throw words together and pretend you sound smart?
2016, didn’t capture any emotion. No rage, no stress, no musical emotion. Just a character screaming and going ssj
Watching this in 2024 and the 1995 version looks even better.
Damn we really lost a lot from the late 90s. Whatever emotion Dragon ball had is gone.
Ikr?
early 90s. dragon bal z ran from 1989-1996
worldwide release start at late 90s and early 2000s.
@@qweasdzxcname yeah and? It still started airing in 1989 whats your point kid
@Hazries45 Well no shit, it was released then, if it was released before it wouldve been popular before
I personally wouldn't say entirely. I really liked the scene in the Tournament of Power where Master Roshi delivers his most powerful kamehameha wave in order to defeat his opponent shortly followed up by him dying and Goku saving his life. That scene was one of the best in all of Super and I believe that there was a lot of nostalgia and emotion in there, especially for the fans that watched from the very beginning when Goku was a kid since Roshi was essentially like Goku's second father. But hey, that's just my opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own :)
DBZ absolutely destroys DBS in everything from atmosphere, to coloring (Fuck you bright colored blue haired Trunks), to the emotion and shot of the scene.
Jason Lu plus.google.com/+Ghostx2xElitedebunkingstationownerthenumber1/posts/7x66RDuFJ3C
it wasn't. bulma's hair was purple and that's what the anime had wrong.
no bulmas hair became blue twards z because anime but trunks had like a light purple hair
+Landin Stewart In the anime it was always blue.
yes iim saying in thee manga he changed it too blue later because of the anime. Trunks hair was always purple tho
I like the old animations because they look actually written as to where super looks kind of made by computers if you know what i mean. Everything looks like it was made for kids.
Everything is animated digitally for Super, making it all new, brighter lighting, highlights on the character, etc. The scene in 1992 is animated hand drawn on traditional paper. The color palette is different as well, suiting the mood more. That's basically what you're saying, right?
I agree, but it was actually made for a younger audience, me being an old og DB fan I'm not the target audience anymore.
1995 : special and movie
2016 : just a flashback
I wish they kept going with this type of animation
Even after all these years it looks so much better than super
*artsyle
@@fryer.studios100 well, the animation too was better at the time, they didn't do any thing half-heartedly.
BaDx ZyNer yea the animation was better too but the term was used incorrectly so I felt the need to correct him. And it’s not like they didn’t care with Super. They just had a terrible schedule at the time and Yamamuro’s plastic character sheets made things even worse. And due to this lack of time everyone suffered (animators in particular) meaning it doesn’t matter how good of an artist you are if you don’t have the time to produce art properly
Jalen F. You’re right about that ;)
The world had more money then
1995's version was more sad and emotional.
Brandon Wolford I agree
THAT WAS A MOVIE STUPID PUSSY
Brandon Wolford WHATT?? IS REALLY?
Tropctus lel it was a 1993 tv special. Not a movie.
sry that the new speakers cant scream like that xD
2016 one: "what's this disney movie dragon ball?"
1995 one: 😢
Whats lost meaning is that Trunks is supposed to strike the ground AFTER he turns Ssj to symbolize that though he has attained the strength to help Gohan, its too late and that strength is in vain.
Now he can only use that strength to strike the ground in despair, knowing he cant bring Gohan back.
2016: what?
1995: Who left a bowl of onions?
Squidward and the other fish pushing that bowl
🥲
It is unbelievable how bad 2016 is compaired to the old ones.
Philiboi
This was an almost anecdotal scene for DBS while the 90's version was the climax of the SPECIAL. Duh there is gonna be a difference
It's fine now. Keep up Dankus Memus.
it is good
What is so wrong about it? I think it's good
The animation is stiff and awkward and the art is far worse. That's way the 2016 version is worse AND bad
1995 just different, i can really feel trunks rage and losing his only mentor and friend
I never realized how the background impacted the scene. Gohan's lifeless corpse facedown in a puddle around a fallen, destroyed city really hits home how badly they have lost to the androids.
You can feel the horror and frustration of trunks in the 1995 version
1995 is MUCH better
All the scenes of 1995 is way too better than 2016.
Agreed
You are right the original is always better. If there is no original then there is no new version.
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*facts* * XD
Gohan was powerful enough to fight both Android 17 and 18 from one hand. Respect to Gohana and I like the old animated version.
0:25 nahh they did Trunks dirty with that animation
1995 so better...
agree
The 2016 version was an abridged flashback, its unfair to compare them
It was first released in 1991 (japan), then it was in 1995 it was international.
Thats what i the great omni king keep on saying, see... no one can fuck with me see....
yep
I hate the new animation style. Everything is so smooth and shiny. It makes them look like fucking dolls and makes expressing emotions way more difficult. You can't honestly tell me then new one portrays even half of the pain Trunks would actually be feeling.
so your saying u like it hard and rough eh? lol jk
Shido Itsuka Why's that?
TRUST!
Yeah for dramatic/intense scenes like this, I definitely prefer the old animation style. The rough aspect only amplifies how "rough" the situation is. It gives it more flavor. What's more is the effects with the surroundings when Trunks is pounding that shit. Way more impactful. It's less about just "adding those effects in" and more about how the key animators are convey those effects from imagination to final product
The 2016 one was just a fucking flashback for crying out loud. Good lord, compare a flashback to a fucking TV special. Good job there. Of course the fucking emotions wouldn't be there. Its a flashback....
1995 makes you tear up while 2016 makes you laugh
Both does neither for me your crazy
@@KHAYREE-kc lol ok
We never knew how good we had it.
Until its gone.
And they dont care abput us anymore.
0:25 That moment when a dead body gives you lice.
Calm that down X_X
LMAO
brus li lmao
brus li that's the true reason trunks went ssj
Lmfaoooooooo 🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭
00:26 Trunks was struck with the most extreme case of lice
EpicForDayz I’m dying XD
MultiTarded bog was good animation except for THAT episode rof was terrible universe 6 v 7 was great goku black arc also great TOP had amazing animation
@MultiTarded I don't wanna hear Adequate for TOP. As much as I love DBZ and DB. I can't deny Jiren vs MUI Goku was the best Dragon Ball has looked period. Not my favourite fight, but in pure animation it was stunning. Of course the Broly movie looks better but that goes without saying. Hell, even the final fight in Super looks astounding. And that final shot of Goku and Freeza is so awesome. I get DBZ is this treasure in the internet but saying Super is entirely poor looking is just wrong. However the scene in the video is shit lmao.
@MultiTarded I totally agree that Super was less consistent, the angles and death scense were far superior in Z, and pretty much anything else you said. Though if we're talking looks I still think MUI Goku vs Jiren looks fantastic. I will say it's flashy and sometimes annoying but I do think it looked nice. If nothing else, the art and models were on point. Still I see what you mean and totally respect that.
underrated
You can feel the pain and sadness of trunks in 1995 but in 2016 its like acting
Somethings in dragon ball are better left the same than being changed
Absolutely no contest. 1995 Version is way superior.
Oh my god! 1:50 Dat pain in his scream... No Words.
Lol go to 0:40. Same scream
Soner Sezgin stop talking
Carl Schneider ok
Soner Sezgin cidden mi?
Soner Sezgin Nope, listen closely, the old one is changing voice tones
Have to give it to the 1995 version hands down. The Japanese and American actors gave a great performance and you felt it to the core.
Its mind blowing how the 1995 version is far beyond better than the 2016 version that shows you how lazy the writers and designers have become 🤮
2016 lacks:
Color of tone to fit the atmosphere.
Contrast of darkness
Voice acting
Anger and heart break
Gohan looks unconscious from having too many beers rather than flat face dead like in 1995
...Not even a comparison.
ATARi lol I subbed to u
Emperor Pilaf rip your Castle
1995 Had a Movie Budget.
+Mikey Cunha 1995 was also 21 years ago
JJ Bloo omg I was just watching my hero academia
'95 animation wayyyyy better than 2016..... how sad
Not really there is a difference between art style and animation. 2016 animation is better but the 90s release had the better art style.
Agree
true cause it really get u in the feels
and u need to watch the movie to understand how sad it is
Not really it just went from and drawn to computers
If super looked more like the DBZ kai intro that would've been beyond badass. 😲
This is always why I will consider GT the true ending. Super just has so many things off and feels like a true kids show. No dark tone or shading with humor
Anyone who thinks the Super version is better is wrong
1995 you could see the rain and it was more epic
mario playz games they're on a budget that's why
mario playz games dbs are raining too
That's not what real rain looks like which is why I think they made it look like that in 2016 I think ..... but I still like the old one better lol
mario playz games agree
Almost 1000 vs 4.
Lol yea, the rain is great.
We can all agree that 1995 was more passionate right? It really got me in my feels seeing gohan die RIP the GOAT
Agreed
If goku saw his son dead he would go insane and avenge him those who killed his son
@@r4zencd120 ok?
1995 has so much more detail then 2016 with trunks fist starting to bleed and him destroying the ground in rage
2016 voice actor nailed the emotions behind trunk's pain better, but 1995 trunks had the visuals of true grief and brokenness
1995 gave me chills 3 times
2016 gave me no chill at all
Same here
@@shadowninja8960 sameeeee
2016 made me laugh
Gave me cringe 3 times
Ones Inna Movie Ones A Flashback
If only Gohan would've told him to make the back of his neck really tingly 😂
It was the back, not neck
(Edit ): oh wait now I get it!
@@mykimations3957, you get the idea
@@mykimations3957 woosh
@@mykimations3957 he's referring to when Gohan hit the back of his neck to knock him out before he died
Anti Justin y you should be the one getting wooshed he literally said he got the joke
The best I can say of DBS's scene is the voice acting, it's awesome, but it's even better in the Z version
The 1995 one is objectively better animated, and it actually feels like there is emotion in the scene.
And it actually looks like Gohan is dead
It was better in 1995!
YUP
no
Ben Thao aré you nuts?
Kariq Hampton no
El dandy 14 u are
Thats one of my reasons why 90s anime was the best.
It seems like the whole world has gone nuts and soft since the year 2000, in every aspect possible! I miss the 80s and 90s so much!!!
We Done With The 90s
@@sassuki no i think after 2012
@@doctorfreeman5127 that's just a movie 😂
Buddy, have you considered actually comparing the effort a certain 90s show made compared to a 2010s show?
The 2016 scene wasn't good because they didn't really want to give it any proper impact and just wanted it to explain Trunk's backstory. They didn't bother making it just as bleak as the original.
The 1995 special was meant to make the audience feel for Trunks and realize just how messed up and bleak his world was, hence a greater emphasis on Trunk's pain and the realization of the audience of just how tragic the death of the last Z fighter is.
There are plenty of shows post the 90s that do similar kinds of emotional and grim storytelling.
Every era had good stuff and bad stuff overall.
What matters is how much effort the producers and writers of said works made in the making of those shows.
You can say that storytelling in the Dragon Ball franchise peaked in the 90s but there are plenty of franchises and new shows that have peak writing in this era.
Just because some franchises did better in the past that today doesn't mean all franchises did better then than now.
This is like getting rejected online vs getting rejected irl
I remember seeing the 96’ one when I was a kid. These two aren’t even comparable.
Makes me think how they strayed so far it’s nuts.
ugh, the 2016 one made it look a bit too..silly, there's no need for the hair grabbing
That was in the old one too
+Jose Valencia I know but they, I don't know, there was something different besides the animation, the voices weren't as emotional, they needed somewhat more sad music but not too much, they didn't portray the despair trunks felt very well
I agree
+Jose Valencia but he only GRABBED it, he didn't scratch it at high speeds, lol
1:42
Super made this intense emotional death scene into a fucking Sesame street G RATED TV Y7 fuck up. Thanks super thanks!
In Super he looks like hes taking a nap. But in the original his eyes were empty but still you can see that he fought for his life until the bitter end.
yeah, it's targeted towards children for profit. fuck the original fans is what they are saying
Eric Morales yes but yet you are called a nostalgia tard for pointing that out. DB should just stick with movies.
Super is mostly fine. The only nostalgia-tards are the ones that insist that DBZ is some sacred cow, as it were. God damn, DBZ had some shit animation that could compare to episode 5 of DBS. So many off model shots, and Goku's first transformation was ruined by completely dorky hair. Seriously, look at how many times they messed up making his hair look any sort of decent when he fought Freeza.
The "DBS sucks" circlejerk is just kinda tiring.
Dragon Ball super is straight garbage.
1995: Nickelodeon
2016: Nick Jr
1:57 that little sound right before he turns super saiyan is what does it for me bro !
Trunks saying goodbye to Gohan in Xenoverse 2 is even more sad. If you really think about it, Trunks has a pretty sad life. These random androids come out of nowhere and begin killing millions of innocent people, all of his friends, and his best friend/mentor, setting him off. Even when he goes Super Saiyan, he still can't defeat the androids. He goes back into the past to warn everyone, and then creates a *new* enemy as a result, causing another reason for him to hate himself. I feel bad for him.
YourBroKace.......
He's the best character in the series.
“If you really think about it, Trunks has a pretty sad life.” Dude if you didn’t put an ounce of thought into it you could figure it out. What were YOU thinking when you wrote that?
@@ogloc4478 Future Gohan had the most sad life, he has been suffering since 4 years old for things that aren't his fault
The original is far better, but to be fair, the super version is them recapping it, the original is it actually happening, so obviously more was put into the happening one
Thank you
So why not just use original footage?
Probably because of Trunk's hair being retconned.
They used original footage of Trunk's when his hair was purple before. However they greyed out the colours so you couldn't see what his old hair colour was
I was going to say the same thing. Original is better, but 2016 just a recap.
1995: no cheap animation, no friendly atmosphere, no Mai (thanks gosh), no BLUE HAIR... No bull**it.
Just pure emotion.
1995 has the very deeply expressed darkness and sadness along with having a much more angular and aggressive art style which makes it way better than the 2016 version
ahhhh Toei !!!! we meet again my old greedy cheapass friend :)
You win
You know what pisses me off about this is the fact that Dragon Ball Z makes millions alone but THIS!!! This is trash i think it is a disgrace it could have been done better
Even the fucking Xenoverse looks good and honestly i thought that looked like the show when i had my glasses off only reason i could tell was it was from a game at the last second was because of the skin it looks spot on though i mean look at that fuck me people these links people just insulting i honestly have never cried during a movie and this scene almost made me cry
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What makes it worse is the fact that Dragon Ball Z games can only get better from here i mean imagine the power if PC took over the graphics alone would murder DBS no wait Pokemon has a better track record of their anime too WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Orange Orange
Can i do any better? Well no cause i dont have a company unlike these twats but if i did yeah i bet i could do alot
they only have a week to produce something like this m8.
Kingbadass123 Yeah, Animation takes such a long time and so much effort. I understand, since I animate myself and know how hard it is :3
1:42
When DBZ fanboys see the Super flashback.
because it was to godly for you to handle.
lol
ahah
When I saw trunks hair in dbs
Salty Snake... Hahaha... Absolutely correct, 😁😁😂
2018 lacks emotion in his face and voice meanwhile 1995 captures all the emotion from trunks reaction to gohans death
CLEARLY you can tell the first clip the animators poured their hearts into guiding you through the emotional empathy you could connect with
Honestly though it looks like they just rushed showing you how he became super sayian and said "oh and gohan died too"
Nah, this new version in Super is an insult. In the original, you really felt bad for Trunks. He has the most emotional transformation of them all. It brought tears to my eyes. You could almost feel his pain. The Super version is just trash. In the original you could see him slowly transforming, like it's breaking out. Not in Super.
Par for the course in Super. Not a single transformation in Super is even cool to see.
i cried too
And in the original the way gohan body looks makes everything more heart breaking but in supers version they made it look like he died a peaceful death
The old one is also form a movie. The movies always had better quality than the show, so it's not really fair to judge it based on that.
onelifetodiefor This isnt about the animation its about how this scene was directed. The history of trunks wasnt a movie it was a tv special.
I mean I'm not saying I don't enjoy the original one (The Funimation dub one, not the Japanese dub), but honestly, the 2016 one was cut short and paid less attention to because it was a short flash back scene. A lot of super is good once you get past the movie arcs that should have never been redone, and some of it they cut corners on for sure.
1995. Why? way way way more emotional and the animation is out of this world amazing and just literally DRIPPING in detail. and the cinematography in Z is just superior in every single way. Super's is nothing but inferrior. the animation is typical super. it's disappointingly crap. Just look at trunk's static face at 0:34...it's fucking awful. you don't see shit like that in original dragon ball and Z. Compare Trunk's screaming in the 1995 version, it's spot on and his mouth/face is trembling as he's screaming.
Couldn't have said it any better
Its cause in 2000 they banned sugaku which gave more detail to frames and allowed blood but since 2004 they had to stop cause they had to upload a episode atleast 1 week a day or not
@@rokuprospect3432 What is sugaku?
@@karimm2 a art style the old Japanese anime had where every second you pause theirs animation but now that anime is popular to even the USA they are some out more recently so they cant do sugaku
@@rokuprospect3432 But why did they ban it, it looks like that sugaku is better than what we have now. It looks a lot better
U have to understand that the 1995 version was a dedicated movie special. Trunks transformation was the emotional crux of a dragon ball Z movie. This 2016 scene is filler practically (flashback to fill up time), so it’s not gonna the attention the 1995 version got.
2016 Gohan looked like he was gonna wake up and say "it's just a prank, bro".
In the 2016 he sounds like he's crying for his Christmas present but in the original it gives me way more goosebumps
It's the little things that matter. Super is in a word: clichéd. They just slap stuff together and say "alright this thing is right here let's move on". What you see in Z is believable as well as relatable. Trunks isn't just in distress, he's in misery. His eyes are leaking tears so fast you cant tell when the crying ends and the rain begins. The way he walks towards Gohan as though he were half alive, the way he stammers his name, totally in denial, clutching his lifeless body irrationally, the way he screams, clenching his fists until it bled, overcome with grief, anger, resentment, desperation. All of this with a committedly bleak and hopeless atmosphere and you have yourself a solid emotion. Super doesn't care about the authenticity of what it presents as a medium. This comparison is just a one to one slideshow of what I mean.
Good god man chill out, of course the old one would be better, It was made for a tv special and it was the first time we had seen this story before. The 2016 one was a recap in a 20 minute tv episode, why would they throw all their best animation into something they already made before?
***** Dude I don't give a shit.
Joseph Franc Classy
It doesnt matter. You also see flash backs of Trunks time in Z. It wasnt good but not as terrible as this.
Truer words have never been spoken, I couldn't agree more
95 clearly, my man clenches his fist so hard in anger he’s bleeding from it
And the music…man 90s forever
1995 hands down, THIS is how you become a Super Saiyan, not some tingly ass feeling on your back lol, heck you can even listen, no, better said you can FEEL it as if it was your own sorrow and sadness, from his full fledged anger to pure RAGE.
Ik this comment is from 3 years ago lol but super treats super saiyan like it's nothing it's ridiculous
The new trunks literally looks like he can’t move his eyes at all, like his eyes don’t really change, but the old one was insanely better and more emotional, like just look at his expressions in the old one, he looks so good
1995 no questions asked! The way that Trunks transforms looks so natural and full of rage! The true way to unlock the super saiyan form *****
1995 The voice acting, the animation, you feel his anguish. 2016 no feels whatsoever
1995!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Patrick Henry ikr
2016!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2016：Gohan＝nap
交通整理のアルバイト中に寝るなんてトランクスも失望ですよ…
Dark tones, pouring rain, a half buried face lifeless in a puddle, fists clenched until they bleed, and even the close-ups. Even muted, 1995 is better, because it visually gives you the fury and pain of losing Gohan (I'm literally tearing up just writing this). I love and defend Super in many ways, but they need to let go of the past. People want blood. They hate censorship, no matter the age. Why? Because it takes from the realism of the situation. Case in point.
1995 Future Gohan: Laying face down dead against the ground as result of a tragic battle.
2016 Future Gohan: Thank God I'm dead and this is my only scene in Super.
Five moments in DBZ history nobody likes to mock:
1. Goku turning SSJ for the 1st time
2. Gohan's rage after Cell kills #16
3. Future Trunks coming across Gohan's corpse
4. Goku turning SSJ3 in front of Buu
5. Vegeta scarifying himself to kill Buu