@@kalbuskj31, You're probably right. Same for Cornette, who was the other glaring omission to my mind. Like him or not, that guy was a genius at off-the-cuff promo work, and most likely incited more riots than Piper ever did...
I'm kinda disappointed that Luke didn't bring up Mick interviewing Cactus Jack in TNA. Dude built a match against Sting with no involvement from Sting while making me both uneasy and in awe of everything he said.
It truly saddens me, that none of you mentioned Bobby "The Brain" Heenan. Before there was Paul Heyman, there was Bobby Heenan. Bobby Heenan was the mouth piece, for so many wrestlers, and he put every single one of them over. He made everyone in the Heenan Family look like a legit, main event, talent. When he was on the mic, he was always the smartest person in the room.
I know Pete brought up Zayn speaking in French in Montreal, but I think we also need to credit him for speaking in Arabic in Jeddah. This man has cut a promo in not one, not two, but three different languages in WWE. That alone to me makes him worthy of being at least in the conversation of greatests.
Only person on the current roster I know who could come anywhere close to cutting a half-decent promo in three languages is Ilja Dragunov (Russian, German, English).
Try and introduce a new fan to an old Randy Savage promo, watch them see a juiced up steroid loaded maniac scream at the top of their lungs for several minutes and tell me you wouldn’t feel a fair bit of cringe from having introduced that to someone. These guys have went with people who feel real, who feel genuine, who feel like they actually believe what they say. For as much as Savage was charismatic and certainly invested in his words, at the same time he was a cartoon character, he never felt real or genuine.
I love Savage promos; that said, I still wouldn't put him in the top ten. His promos are charismatic to the core, but I wouldn't say that, as a speaker, he is in the top ten. Maybe top 25. Maybe.
I'm not saying that he should have topped any of their lists. I'm just saying that I'm extremely surprised that no one put him at ten for his "the cream always rises to the top promo" alone.
@@codyssmith73he’s not given an exact reason as to why he’s going but he’s said he’s going to a new job as well as enjoying some time “offline”, my theory is the offer was probably too good to refuse, especially given their recent video about not making enough profit from these videos
What would Jericho be doing on a top 10 speakers list? He's fine, good even, he isn't legendary. I couldn't name a single great promo of his off the top of my head, which means he's never broken through into the "great promos" category
@Jimbo_Ka-Blamo his debut more the moment than him, remember he gets roasted by the rock there. The fact you didn't name a suit and tie promo is incredibly telling, jericho is great at convincing you he was great, but nobody seems to be able to pinpoint where. And the festival of friendship was storyline and as much on KO as him
The fact that 3 different people omitted Flair, Savage, Cena, and Samosa Joe is crazy. But I guess it goes to show how many great talkers there have been. But not even an honorable mention???
honorable mention and in top 10 for me personally cause no one at wrestle talk likes him or wants to talk about him. The Miz. there are so many good promos he has had throughout his career such as the talking smack promo, the promo where he tore into john Cena and roman reigns for being the chosen ones which made the crowd actually cheer, a lot of his A lister stuff is good, is promo when he was US champion talking about how he was mistreated for eating chicken over a "referee" bag and got bullied by JBL. He also just knows how to get people to hate him (ignoring the go away heat he had in his first WWE championship run). so if they aren't going to give Miz his flowers for his talking ability cause his in ring style isn't great or his first WWE championship run wasn't all that good. or he had one of the worst WM main events where he was the third wheel in the rock and john cena. i will give him his flowers here. miz is an amazing talker
Flair was very much in the shouting era of promos, along with Savage it’s difficult to watch a lot of their old promos because it’s basically just screaming and it’s hard to introduce new fans to without feeling a fair bit cringe. At least with Eddie Kingston he sounds and acts like a real person, which in the end is the whole point of wrestling is to make it feel as though it’s real.
@Nick94956 there was a video and all three agreed on the 24/7 championship being the worst design. It was the week after the best belt design but they could have removed it for some reason
Paul Heyman is number one. He's so good, paul could take two random ppl out of the audience, hype them up, to the point we'd feel like its one of the big 4 ppv main events.
Mean Gene Okerlund. I know he’s not technically a “promo guy”. But Mean Gene was essential to 80s and 90s wrestling scene. His reactions SOLD those promos. He was the audience surrogate. His back and forth with wrestlers drove a lot of those iconic promo segments.
Single best Jake moment was when two guys are walloping the bejabbers out of each other at the Royal Rumble, the horn sounds, Jake saunters down, and just sits in the corner, motioning the pair to go ahead on lambasting each other.
Even more so on Paul Heyman, his physicality when he's just RINGSIDE in a match, is out of this world. He sells EVERY MOMENT. I have often said to my friends that we need a 'Heyman-cam' during matches in the corner (like streamers) just to watch his amazing facial expressions and reactions.
So true. So many managers, even greats like Heenan, just spend time their time ringside occasionally mugging for the camera and waiting for the interference spot. Heyman sells everything in the match. I love watching him ringside.
The best way I can describe a Bray Wyatt promo is *engrossing*. I didn't matter what he was saying I can't disengage from him speaking. He could read the ingredients list on every box in a grocery store & I'd be there for the whole presentation.
My favorite Mick Foley promo is when he’s scared and nervous against HHH, then unbuttons his shirt to reveal the Cactus Jack shirt, and all of a sudden he’s the most dangerous and dominant man in the arena. That and when his dentures popped out
I’d say that the argument for Hayman can be summed up in one line: My name is Paul Hayman… The way he delivers that simple lime and everyone just knows to stop what they are doing and listen, unless you’re the guy that proposed.
I know The Miz won’t be on any of their lists but he deserves to be. One of the better promos but also just a general talker. Interviews, commentary, promos …. The man sets the standard for all of it.
@@Nick94956 Fire me, I'm already fired. If I have a heart attack, it'll be on top of your girlfriend (so basically any time he promo'd on Eric Bischoff). People forget about all his great promos in JCP. I mean, he made Jimmy Garvin feel more legitimate as a world champion challenger.
Depending on the day, his promo after losing the title to Ronnie Garvin might be my single favorite wrestling promo of ever. Puts the new champ over *massively* without losing any of his swagger or arrogance, then uses his personal experience as a multi-time world champion to tell Garvin what it's like to be the man, what he'll be in for, and the incredible toll it takes when everybody is gunning for you, being the hunted. So freakin' good.
As soon as I saw this video, I predicted that Luke was going to have Scott Steiner at number one, and Pete would have The Miz at number one. I’m glad to say that I was wrong.
Really surprised Ric and Vince didn't make anyone list. Especially Ric because that's pretty much what his entire career was built on was the character work of what and who Ric flair thought he was lol.
Did you missed the point they made where someone can write you something but if you can't deliver it its not good. And that Cena thing was unbalanced because Cena went shoot on that when Rock was in kayfabe.
Agreed. I'm at the point where I can't watch these list because they look as though they have no understanding of the history of wrestling past, say 2005, at times
@@eoindevereux7591 Oh no, people have different opinions than you and have a different take on things. The horror. Obviously you are the only right person on the planet and everyone must only follow your opinions.
I know this was recorded previously, but it’s kinda funny how we got this really nice farewell from Pete and yet he’s going be around the next couple months of content.
29:00 My parents lived out in Portland and used to go to the shows all the time. They did this a lot when Piper was wrestling and whenever I ask them about the times they went to Portland they would tell me every time about Roddy Piper and just how good he was live.
I don't think you guys have done it before , I know you've done entrance themes but I'd love to see a TLC episode on best/worst entrances. You could have a wrestler's entrance from a particular event or a general top 10 taking pyro, audience reaction/participation into account as well as the music
I sometimes forget how different we all think as fans. My list would've looked completely different from any of these. Cena, Macho Man, Angle, Owens, and probably Steiner just for the memes alone. My number one tho is definitely Stone Cold without a shadow of a doubt.
Ok i am genuinely surprised The Miz wasn't somewhere. Hate his ring work, hate his Wrestlemania Main Event, Overrate his IC title run. But that man has a generational gift of gab. Name me one other person in WWE from 2011 to like 2016 that could talk the way he did.
Not a SINGLE one of them had Bobby Heenan on their list? Not ONE of them? Man that's just sad. The Brain was one of THE best managers in the industry and a great commentator. The lack of love for the Weasel just hurts man.
I feel melancholic watching this knowing Pete won't be here that much longer :( edit. Awesome to see Roddy Piper that high, the man really deserves it.
I think TLC has become my favorite WrestleTalk series! I would love to see a TLC “best entrances” but for specific ones like for example “Nakamura at NXT Takeover Brooklyn 2”
Yeah... Both him and Flair might be persona non grata these days, but man... Like him or not, Cornette incited riots with a microphone on a weekly basis for years. And he's one of the best off-the-cuff, play-to-the-moment promos of all time.
Great list from all three guys for different reasons! 10. Ric Flair 9. Jesse Ventura 8. Bobby Heenan 7. Mick Foley 6. Roddy Piper 5. Jake Roberts 4. Jim Ross 3. Steve Austin 2. The Rock 1. Paul Heyman That's my list 😮💨☝️🏻
People crying because their favorites are missing from the list... guys, they literally said this could have been a top 20 and a lot of names would be missing.
Having MJF in the list but not John Cena or The Miz is completely insane As good as MJF is he's very predictable and mostly uses cheap heat and shock factor more than creativity while Cena actually has good mic skills also The Miz is fire on the Mic he's one of the best
@RobertJW so did The Rock. His entire gimmick was about his opponents being jabronies and insignificant. If that doesn't dq the rock, then it shouldn't disqualify Cena.
The miz’s only ever convincing promo is one where he gets mad at someone because he rightfully said that the miz has worked easy and paint by numbers his entire career and the miz going yeah so what I still worked hard
Honorable mention - Adam Cole. There's something about this guy, that instantly draws you in when he speaks. I still to this day remember the promo in which he buried Karrion Kross in NXT and quite frankly, the latter one never recovered from that.
I'm glad I found your comment! I still remember that promo! Adam Cole is my favorite wrestler and he went in on Karrion Kross. Adam Cole is very underrated and underappreciated on the mic
Okay, just to add to the point about 'could have been a top 20, and even then...' here is my (off the dome, so I will have almost definitely have forgotten some people) top 10 that was not on any list 1 - Bobby Heenan 2 - Jim Cornette 3 - Ric Flair 4 - Randy Savage 5 - Vince McMahon (I know, I know... but when he was good, he was brilliant at it) 6 - Kurt Angle 7 - Edge 8 - Bray Wyatt 9 - Chris Jericho 10 - John Cena (yes there were lots of bad ones but, again, when he was good, he was great)
And to hammer the point home, here is a top 10 list of, "Would not be on mine, but I would not be mad at anyone having them on their list" 😆 1 - Kevin Owens 2 - Bryan Danielson 3 - Jon Moxley 4 - Shawn Michaels 5 - The Miz 6 - Christian 7 - AJ Lee 8 - R-Truth 9 - Hulk Hogan 10 - Becky Lynch
2 things 1. Piper created the 1st talk show that we created and gave us quotes and moments we know today 2. The rock is such a good talker. He is the reason for smackdown being in Webster dictionary. He created a new word
Pete doing a heel turn on his way out putting Austin so low made me literally stunned for a couple mins I had to rewind cause I tuned out for that time 😂😂😂
The one that shocked me to not see on anyone's list was Good Ol' JR Jim Ross. Incredible talker from the hard PPV sell through to earnest storyline believability and big match gravitas. And did it on every show, every segment for years
Wait, I'm tripping right? You're telling me I didn't see one person put down Macho Man Randy Savage? And did Pete just change his list as he went lol? He literally said Miz was on his list (which could've been satire, which I kinda took it as but you never know with him lol). But I just can't freaking believe not one of them put down Macho Man, like how in tf is there no Macho Man. Dude was the best talker in the company for years (imo of course, but im sure in a lot of others we well). Like, when we got to number 3 and I didn't see him I was like "Okay, so someone has him at 1/2, I can see that, that isn't a bad take at all, then to see he wasnt even on the list, that's ridiculous 😂😂!
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So nice of y'all to get a hologram of the Pete Quinnell for this one, almost looks like the real deal!
So THIS is why they said TLC was losing them money, it’s the expensive holograms!
They’ll replace it with Hayden Christensen soon
Pete deserves a special of just his best moments. It’d be long, but man he deserves it.
It's already on the channel in the latest live stream and a episode of the news recently somewhere but it there haha ass man included
@@TikiManTime ass man is awesome.
They’ve done one, everyone comes in to say goodbye and they play a compilation of his best moments
Considering hes got no knowledge of the wrestling and is just a recent fan I'd say they've done enough and his grift has reached its end.
Shut up@@SlowdiveSpaceStation-l8l
No mention of Cena, Jericho or Samoa Joe at all is mind blowing. Gentleman, fine speech, you just made the list
Cena? Really? John Cena? That's like putting 2015 roman reigns
@@PowerGaming_28Fine speech.
@@PowerGaming_28 suffering succotash Cena cynic
Top talkers ever and Eddie Kingston and not John Cena is crazy especially with how many times they mention selling tickets
Cena not being on the list is crazy work..no Jericho..no joe..no HHH
Not one mention of Ric Flair is wild 😂
Yeah, that completely destroyed any credibility WrestleTalk had.
I think they intentionally left Mr. McMahon and Ric Flair off for “reasons”
@@kalbuskj31 D’you know, I didn’t even think of that. You’re probably right.
@@kalbuskj31, You're probably right. Same for Cornette, who was the other glaring omission to my mind. Like him or not, that guy was a genius at off-the-cuff promo work, and most likely incited more riots than Piper ever did...
I'm kinda disappointed that Luke didn't bring up Mick interviewing Cactus Jack in TNA. Dude built a match against Sting with no involvement from Sting while making me both uneasy and in awe of everything he said.
It truly saddens me, that none of you mentioned Bobby "The Brain" Heenan. Before there was Paul Heyman, there was Bobby Heenan. Bobby Heenan was the mouth piece, for so many wrestlers, and he put every single one of them over. He made everyone in the Heenan Family look like a legit, main event, talent. When he was on the mic, he was always the smartest person in the room.
Bobby Heenan OR Cornette not getting even an honorable mention is a slap in the face to talkers in wrestling.
When I started watching this list I just assumed that Paul Heyman and Bobby Heenan would be the top 2 and there wouldn't be too much arguing about it
He was the arc villain of the Hulkamania era, imo he was to Hogan what McMahon was to Austin.
I know Pete brought up Zayn speaking in French in Montreal, but I think we also need to credit him for speaking in Arabic in Jeddah. This man has cut a promo in not one, not two, but three different languages in WWE. That alone to me makes him worthy of being at least in the conversation of greatests.
Only person on the current roster I know who could come anywhere close to cutting a half-decent promo in three languages is Ilja Dragunov (Russian, German, English).
I genuinely cannot believe there wasn't a single Randy Savage mention...
Or Ric Flair
WHAT?!!!! Man Wrestletalk is finished lol
Try and introduce a new fan to an old Randy Savage promo, watch them see a juiced up steroid loaded maniac scream at the top of their lungs for several minutes and tell me you wouldn’t feel a fair bit of cringe from having introduced that to someone. These guys have went with people who feel real, who feel genuine, who feel like they actually believe what they say. For as much as Savage was charismatic and certainly invested in his words, at the same time he was a cartoon character, he never felt real or genuine.
I love Savage promos; that said, I still wouldn't put him in the top ten. His promos are charismatic to the core, but I wouldn't say that, as a speaker, he is in the top ten. Maybe top 25. Maybe.
I'm not saying that he should have topped any of their lists. I'm just saying that I'm extremely surprised that no one put him at ten for his "the cream always rises to the top promo" alone.
Is this Pete’s last TLC? 😢
Also, hoping we do Top 10 wrestling masks soon.
What happened to him?
@@walikram7255 Pete is leaving. He’s not given a reason, and that’s his choice.
@@codyssmith73he has. He’s going to a work somewhere else
@@codyssmith73he’s not given an exact reason as to why he’s going but he’s said he’s going to a new job as well as enjoying some time “offline”, my theory is the offer was probably too good to refuse, especially given their recent video about not making enough profit from these videos
@@adzmcgee9787He mentioned in the livestream something about taking a break from being a public figure, which I think is reason enough.
I do feel like Bray Wyatt deserved a shout ngl
Yeah I’d put Bray above Kingston and MJF and I love all three guys.
Eh it's alot of nonsense, who even knows what the hell he was talking about
@@benvlerick8303Bray makes people believe and captivates them.
@@benvlerick8303It was nonsense that made you want to know what he was referring to and made you watch closely for hints as to his plans
Not one mention of Macho man, Flair or Jericho is wild!!?!
You could make a top 10 based on people not on any of their lists tbh.
I thought jericho would be near number 1, but not a mention?
What would Jericho be doing on a top 10 speakers list? He's fine, good even, he isn't legendary. I couldn't name a single great promo of his off the top of my head, which means he's never broken through into the "great promos" category
@@nalidhardstyle8551 Debut Y2J promo, plenty of Suit and Tie Jericho promos calling people hypocrites, Festival of Friendship...
@Jimbo_Ka-Blamo his debut more the moment than him, remember he gets roasted by the rock there. The fact you didn't name a suit and tie promo is incredibly telling, jericho is great at convincing you he was great, but nobody seems to be able to pinpoint where. And the festival of friendship was storyline and as much on KO as him
I’m actually quite shocked that my man William Regal didn’t touch this list. I think he’s spectacularly underrated as a promo
That promo before he fought Cesaro is an all-time fave.
The problem is too many people are good at talking so it's hard to fit everyone who's awesome
I know it's not a promo, but Eddie's speech on the Being The Elite episode that covered Brodie's tribute show.
Absolute chills.
The fact that 3 different people omitted Flair, Savage, Cena, and Samosa Joe is crazy. But I guess it goes to show how many great talkers there have been. But not even an honorable mention???
Didn't know that grief would strike me so hard, it's like I can still hear Pete
honorable mention and in top 10 for me personally cause no one at wrestle talk likes him or wants to talk about him. The Miz. there are so many good promos he has had throughout his career such as the talking smack promo, the promo where he tore into john Cena and roman reigns for being the chosen ones which made the crowd actually cheer, a lot of his A lister stuff is good, is promo when he was US champion talking about how he was mistreated for eating chicken over a "referee" bag and got bullied by JBL. He also just knows how to get people to hate him (ignoring the go away heat he had in his first WWE championship run). so if they aren't going to give Miz his flowers for his talking ability cause his in ring style isn't great or his first WWE championship run wasn't all that good. or he had one of the worst WM main events where he was the third wheel in the rock and john cena. i will give him his flowers here. miz is an amazing talker
Whew, no Flair is kind of wild.
Yet Eddie Kingston is there 😅
Both can deffo be on this list
No Ric Flair, no Vince McMahon but Eddie Kingston is there lol
Flair was very much in the shouting era of promos, along with Savage it’s difficult to watch a lot of their old promos because it’s basically just screaming and it’s hard to introduce new fans to without feeling a fair bit cringe. At least with Eddie Kingston he sounds and acts like a real person, which in the end is the whole point of wrestling is to make it feel as though it’s real.
@@reecetomm too bad he doesnt feel like a wrestler
Thank You pete for being here for so many years & giving us entertainment. Your a legend.
When are we going to get the Top 10 Worst Wrestling Belts with Luke, Sullivan and Pete?
I NEED this episode, guys!
Sadly, unless it is already made that ship has sailed
There is a worst belt one already done.
@@Suhail-d9r let me guess patreon only?
@@Suhail-d9rA list with Adam, I believe, but they never did a TLC episode. They only did best designs😊
@Nick94956 there was a video and all three agreed on the 24/7 championship being the worst design. It was the week after the best belt design but they could have removed it for some reason
Definitely thought Luke would have Steiner at #1 😂
Paul Heyman is number one. He's so good, paul could take two random ppl out of the audience, hype them up, to the point we'd feel like its one of the big 4 ppv main events.
Mick Foley, Bobby Heenan, Paul Heyman and Roddy Piper were the first names which came to mind.
3 of the top 5 ever🤝🏾
Terry Funk. Watch him call Lawler a "lover of chickens" and tell me he's not one of the 10 best. Y'all are too young to know.
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Mean Gene Okerlund. I know he’s not technically a “promo guy”. But Mean Gene was essential to 80s and 90s wrestling scene. His reactions SOLD those promos. He was the audience surrogate. His back and forth with wrestlers drove a lot of those iconic promo segments.
Gonna miss you Chopper 🥺
Single best Jake moment was when two guys are walloping the bejabbers out of each other at the Royal Rumble, the horn sounds, Jake saunters down, and just sits in the corner, motioning the pair to go ahead on lambasting each other.
Very underrated and not surprised he isn't mentioned is Nick Bockwinkel.
Even more so on Paul Heyman,
his physicality when he's just RINGSIDE in a match, is out of this world. He sells EVERY MOMENT. I have often said to my friends that we need a 'Heyman-cam' during matches in the corner (like streamers) just to watch his amazing facial expressions and reactions.
So true. So many managers, even greats like Heenan, just spend time their time ringside occasionally mugging for the camera and waiting for the interference spot. Heyman sells everything in the match. I love watching him ringside.
Yeah definitely need a Paul Heyman Cam
Tempest wearing a hat over the mask made me laugh a little to hard.
I now want that as a sticker. xD
I feel like it would be funnier if he somehow wore the hat *under* the mask
Please continue TLC post Pete. This format is so good
The best way I can describe a Bray Wyatt promo is *engrossing*. I didn't matter what he was saying I can't disengage from him speaking. He could read the ingredients list on every box in a grocery store & I'd be there for the whole presentation.
Wyatt is like Jake The Snake times a million
Absolutely wild that between the 3 of you, not a single mention of Wyatt, Jericho, Flair, Heenan...
You want a Wrestling promo that’ll make you believe? Watch Roddy Piper run down Vince Russo in TNA… “Did you kill Owen Hart” 😳 Absolute perfection
It's awesome that you rehired Pete on his birthday for 1 more show.
My favorite Mick Foley promo is when he’s scared and nervous against HHH, then unbuttons his shirt to reveal the Cactus Jack shirt, and all of a sudden he’s the most dangerous and dominant man in the arena.
That and when his dentures popped out
Not having Cena at all is wild
Cena is good, but could get grating at times.
Especially when he went on his “fine speech” tirade.
he's good but he's not the same level as Bret Hart, The Rock, Stone Cold ,Paul Heyman and Ric Flair just to name a few
@@codyssmith73 oh completely agree but having MJF and not Cena is wild to me imo at least lol
@@TyMarshall007Bret Hart wasn’t a great talker
Unfortunately many of the people at wrestletalk don’t like cena
I’d say that the argument for Hayman can be summed up in one line: My name is Paul Hayman…
The way he delivers that simple lime and everyone just knows to stop what they are doing and listen, unless you’re the guy that proposed.
I know The Miz won’t be on any of their lists but he deserves to be. One of the better promos but also just a general talker. Interviews, commentary, promos …. The man sets the standard for all of it.
Having Eddie Kingston above Stone cold or Mick Foley is just wild😂😂, maybe recency bias.
Yeah and no flair or steiner
Not saying I agree with it but Eddie has been around since 2002, and a lot of people have been watching him on the indies for years
And not having Randy Savage on all 3 is just ridiculous 😂
Totally disagree, Eddie is top in my book as I believe every word out of his mouth.
Remember guys, personal lists 😊
No mentions of Bray Wyatt, Jim Cornette, or Chris Jericho? Crazy, man!
No mentions of Ric Flair or Randy Savage is very surprising
Flair is great at his shtick, but name a promo that he cut that isn’t “With a tear in my eye” that you genuinely remember
@@Nick94956spilled liquor, golden spoon, the man came to mind in an instant
@@Nick94956 ‘Fire me! I’m already fired! Fire me!’
@@Nick94956 Fire me, I'm already fired. If I have a heart attack, it'll be on top of your girlfriend (so basically any time he promo'd on Eric Bischoff). People forget about all his great promos in JCP. I mean, he made Jimmy Garvin feel more legitimate as a world champion challenger.
Depending on the day, his promo after losing the title to Ronnie Garvin might be my single favorite wrestling promo of ever. Puts the new champ over *massively* without losing any of his swagger or arrogance, then uses his personal experience as a multi-time world champion to tell Garvin what it's like to be the man, what he'll be in for, and the incredible toll it takes when everybody is gunning for you, being the hunted. So freakin' good.
As soon as I saw this video, I predicted that Luke was going to have Scott Steiner at number one, and Pete would have The Miz at number one. I’m glad to say that I was wrong.
Really surprised Ric and Vince didn't make anyone list. Especially Ric because that's pretty much what his entire career was built on was the character work of what and who Ric flair thought he was lol.
Woooooooo!
I saw Luke on the thumbnail and thought Scott Steiner would be his #1 because of Steiner Math 🤦🏻♂️😂
We miss you, Pete 💯🤝🏼
The rock literally has writers and John Cena obliterated him on the mic but yet he’s not on the list 😂😂
Did you missed the point they made where someone can write you something but if you can't deliver it its not good. And that Cena thing was unbalanced because Cena went shoot on that when Rock was in kayfabe.
@@fscorpion678 make all the excuses you want buddy 😂😂this channel just hates Cena
Pete is Insane for putting SCSA so low
Ric Flair, Chris Jericho, John Cena, and Samoa Joe not being anywhere is absolutely diabolical.
I get the generation gap, but I gotta find room for Flair & Cornette
Agreed. I'm at the point where I can't watch these list because they look as though they have no understanding of the history of wrestling past, say 2005, at times
@@eoindevereux7591 Oh no, people have different opinions than you and have a different take on things. The horror. Obviously you are the only right person on the planet and everyone must only follow your opinions.
26:05-26:12 Tempest’s voice crack never ceases to crack me up 😂👌🏾
Yay, 30 minutes of Tempest starting every sentence with "Listen" like he's a masked Navi.
"why do people still think wrestling and wrestling fans are lame i just dont get it"
Hey Link, this hallway’s all twisted!
Man, I’m legit shocked Cena wasn’t on ANY of the 3 lists
Thank you Pete..!! ❤
I know this was recorded previously, but it’s kinda funny how we got this really nice farewell from Pete and yet he’s going be around the next couple months of content.
No one’s mentioned him yet, but Jerry Lawler. King talked people into the Mid-south Colosseum for decades.
Then there's the one where Lawler called Goldust a f@g, roasting Terri Runnels and their daughter. That was diabolical
He’s away above Sami Zayne! Are they crazy?
29:00 My parents lived out in Portland and used to go to the shows all the time. They did this a lot when Piper was wrestling and whenever I ask them about the times they went to Portland they would tell me every time about Roddy Piper and just how good he was live.
No Savage, Flair, or Bobby Heenan is crazy work
WHERE’S JERRY LAWLER????
This one was a real treat. Thanks for the awesome video as always!!! 😊
No Jerico?!
I don't think you guys have done it before , I know you've done entrance themes but I'd love to see a TLC episode on best/worst entrances. You could have a wrestler's entrance from a particular event or a general top 10 taking pyro, audience reaction/participation into account as well as the music
Respect your lists still wish Bobby the Brain Heenan got a mention somewhere......... Edit: I didn't finish the video when I made the comment LOL
Gotta finish the video first!
@@RobertJW Now you tell me LOL
I sometimes forget how different we all think as fans. My list would've looked completely different from any of these. Cena, Macho Man, Angle, Owens, and probably Steiner just for the memes alone. My number one tho is definitely Stone Cold without a shadow of a doubt.
Ok i am genuinely surprised The Miz wasn't somewhere. Hate his ring work, hate his Wrestlemania Main Event, Overrate his IC title run. But that man has a generational gift of gab. Name me one other person in WWE from 2011 to like 2016 that could talk the way he did.
Wrestletalk will never, ever, give The Miz his flowers.
Not a SINGLE one of them had Bobby Heenan on their list? Not ONE of them? Man that's just sad. The Brain was one of THE best managers in the industry and a great commentator. The lack of love for the Weasel just hurts man.
My personal favorite is Bray wyatt. He was AMAZING..
An honorable mention should go to Andy Kaufman. He was a heat magnet in his feud with Jerry Lawler. He could work a crowd.
I feel melancholic watching this knowing Pete won't be here that much longer :(
edit. Awesome to see Roddy Piper that high, the man really deserves it.
I think TLC has become my favorite WrestleTalk series! I would love to see a TLC “best entrances” but for specific ones like for example “Nakamura at NXT Takeover Brooklyn 2”
Dusty Rhodes, Roddy Piper, Cornette, Heenan, Heyman, Austin, Foley, Bockwinkle, Hogan and Flair.
Hogan??!
10 best kickouts/near falls of all time please!!!
Eddie Kingston above Steve Austin. I've seen it all.
The Ric Flair disrespect is insane. Other than that salute Pete Q thank you for all of your hard work.
No Cornette is insane
Yeah... Both him and Flair might be persona non grata these days, but man... Like him or not, Cornette incited riots with a microphone on a weekly basis for years. And he's one of the best off-the-cuff, play-to-the-moment promos of all time.
Great list from all three guys for different reasons!
10. Ric Flair
9. Jesse Ventura
8. Bobby Heenan
7. Mick Foley
6. Roddy Piper
5. Jake Roberts
4. Jim Ross
3. Steve Austin
2. The Rock
1. Paul Heyman
That's my list 😮💨☝️🏻
No Flair. No Savage. No Double A. Yet Eddie Kingston is on their lists. Really sad.
I’m very much interested to see what a list of Worst Talkers would look like. Because that could be very interesting.
People crying because their favorites are missing from the list... guys, they literally said this could have been a top 20 and a lot of names would be missing.
This is how I discovered that Foley played The Boulder?! 😮 Another fantastic, amazing list!
Having MJF in the list but not John Cena or The Miz is completely insane As good as MJF is he's very predictable and mostly uses cheap heat and shock factor more than creativity while Cena actually has good mic skills also The Miz is fire on the Mic he's one of the best
Cena constantly buried his opponents on the mic.
Cena a bum. Sorry
@RobertJW so did The Rock. His entire gimmick was about his opponents being jabronies and insignificant. If that doesn't dq the rock, then it shouldn't disqualify Cena.
The miz’s only ever convincing promo is one where he gets mad at someone because he rightfully said that the miz has worked easy and paint by numbers his entire career and the miz going yeah so what I still worked hard
They hate Cena
Luke...luke thos promo impressions are gold. Thats your new segment but at the very least I'm gonna need another Jek the snek promo from you again
Honorable mention - Adam Cole. There's something about this guy, that instantly draws you in when he speaks. I still to this day remember the promo in which he buried Karrion Kross in NXT and quite frankly, the latter one never recovered from that.
I'm glad I found your comment! I still remember that promo! Adam Cole is my favorite wrestler and he went in on Karrion Kross. Adam Cole is very underrated and underappreciated on the mic
Okay, just to add to the point about 'could have been a top 20, and even then...' here is my (off the dome, so I will have almost definitely have forgotten some people) top 10 that was not on any list
1 - Bobby Heenan
2 - Jim Cornette
3 - Ric Flair
4 - Randy Savage
5 - Vince McMahon (I know, I know... but when he was good, he was brilliant at it)
6 - Kurt Angle
7 - Edge
8 - Bray Wyatt
9 - Chris Jericho
10 - John Cena (yes there were lots of bad ones but, again, when he was good, he was great)
And to hammer the point home, here is a top 10 list of, "Would not be on mine, but I would not be mad at anyone having them on their list" 😆
1 - Kevin Owens
2 - Bryan Danielson
3 - Jon Moxley
4 - Shawn Michaels
5 - The Miz
6 - Christian
7 - AJ Lee
8 - R-Truth
9 - Hulk Hogan
10 - Becky Lynch
John Cena not making the list is a crime
2 things
1. Piper created the 1st talk show that we created and gave us quotes and moments we know today
2. The rock is such a good talker. He is the reason for smackdown being in Webster dictionary. He created a new word
Miz not being top 10 is wild
They will never say anything nice about the Miz they have an agenda
Pete doing a heel turn on his way out putting Austin so low made me literally stunned for a couple mins I had to rewind cause I tuned out for that time 😂😂😂
No Flair on anyone's list? Seriously?
My friend told me to check out this video. I think I agree with Pete the most. I can't wait to see more videos from these three guys.
Ric Flair is number 1 with The Rick at a very close second! No one could out talk Slick Ric back in his prime!
Hope they keep this show. Always look forward to seeing it pop up in my notifications 😮
I guess tempest doesn’t like me cuz I don’t like Eddie Kingston (more because of his wrestling). I do agree he’s a great talker though
The one that shocked me to not see on anyone's list was Good Ol' JR Jim Ross. Incredible talker from the hard PPV sell through to earnest storyline believability and big match gravitas.
And did it on every show, every segment for years
Eddie Kingston could cut a promo saying the world is flat and I might believe him. He’s so convincing and 100% believes every damn word he says.
Goodbye Pete! Thanks for your work. Happy trails!😀🍻
Wait, I'm tripping right? You're telling me I didn't see one person put down Macho Man Randy Savage?
And did Pete just change his list as he went lol? He literally said Miz was on his list (which could've been satire, which I kinda took it as but you never know with him lol).
But I just can't freaking believe not one of them put down Macho Man, like how in tf is there no Macho Man. Dude was the best talker in the company for years (imo of course, but im sure in a lot of others we well). Like, when we got to number 3 and I didn't see him I was like "Okay, so someone has him at 1/2, I can see that, that isn't a bad take at all, then to see he wasnt even on the list, that's ridiculous 😂😂!
Considering Pete later said that even in a top 20 list Miz wouldn't be on it, he was obviously joking.
@@derangel9143 I must've missed that part lol. I was hoping it was a joke, but these days you never know honestly lol.
There needs to be a part 2 with different names used. This was too good
They threw Eddie Kingston on this list, but no Flair or Savage? That's absolutely insane!
Flair is charismatic but he's not real.
Eddie is *real*.
@@RobertJWwhat?😭
Flair was like the biggest asshole in the world in the 80s, that was definitely real
Can we get that graphic at 7:43 put on a t-shirt? Maybe split the revenue with Eddie? 😂
Whether people like it or not, the true answer is Vince.
Never thought I'd hear an Avatar: TLA shoutout in a wrestling video, but it's awesome that we did.
7:40 I guess Tempest hates Dan XD