Hi Drew, thanks for this informative video. I can clearly see from the insight you gave us that the CineShooter definitely gives one the last 10% to achieve the perfectly executed motion controlled shots. I have 2 questions though: A) Is it possible to mount the CineShooter upside down? Do the motors still work accordingly? (Amazing for extreme elevated, downward shooting, motion controlled shots) B) Is there any follow focus solution, like an additional motor that could be attached to control another "axis" (preferrably a follow focus with 0.8 pitch gears)? Despite this being somewhat "biased" since you are an ambassador, it was very informative and showcased super well for the small amount of time this edit was running. Personally I'd be even interested into a "deep dive" for this product.
Thanks for watching Atilla!! Yes, you can mount it upside down and it still works perfectly (you'd just want to invert the motor directions when using) and yes, you can add both focus and zoom motors to the unit and key frame inside of kOS for perfection. It's pretty amazing!
Nice review. Any chance you could do a side by side comparison between this one and Kessler Second Shooter as well as RHINO ARC II? There’s not much on RUclips on this system and how it really stacks up against others so anything you could provide would great!
Hey Darren! Thanks for watching. I can definitely do a side by side with the Cineshooter and Second Shooter but I don't have the Rhino slider unfortunately but I'm sure there are plenty of videos on that slider to look at. Once I'm back in the studio I'll make sure to do a nice comparison video.
Wow this looks amazing! Thanks for the review. Does the cineshooter come with everything you need to power your slider like the second shooter pro does? I couldn’t seem to tell when looking on Kessler cranes website. I have a stealth slider. Looking to get moco going :)
Thanks for watching! Yes, I believe it comes with the AC adapter for powered moves but you'll have to supply the other power options (but if you already have the SS Pro then you'll have power options for this since they're the same). Otherwise the only real thing you'd need is an ethernet cable to link to your slider (and the motor mount for the slider) and you're good to go! The Cineshooter works right out of the box for 2-axis shots (all you need is power). It's definitely an awesome piece of gear and worth the $$!
I want to do long video single slide and pan landscapes (think Apple TV screensaver but 4 hrs long) how slow can this go smoothly? Do you think it’s capable? I don’t need lots of moves just super smooth not step-y slides
The Stealth Slider is my go-to for run and guns. You can get the carbon-fiber version which is ultra-light and can still handle a decently heavy payload (20lbs or so).
Hi, can this thing handle Ursa Mini Pro 12k from Blackmagic? My camera with cine lenses weighs around 5kg. How important is center of gravity on heavy cameras, what if camera is front heavy or back heavy, can this thing handle that? This thing is currently on my radar. Will also subscribe to keep up with your content.
Hi Niko, yes, if you purchase the support upgrade modual (shown in the video) it can support 25lbs for all 5-axis movements. I've loaded approximately 19lbs worth of camera, lenses and accessories and it works flawlessly on playback. Thanks so much for subscribing!!
Insightful review. As a Kessler ambassador with deep knowledge and experience with Kessler motion control systems do you intend do a master class on the Kessler Cineshooter?
The best difference here vs second shooter plus is lack of wires. It looks like there's one wire here. If anyone really wants to save some money to get into motion control, get a used second shooter system.
Great review! However I think the age of expensive motion systems is over. With benro Polaris kickstart project We enter new age of motorized systems That anyone can afford . Kaslar crane make great devices for sure But over 3,000 $ that’s crazy price
Thanks for watching David! The Polaris does look interesting but I don't think it's of the same caliber as the Cineshooter or any other professionally made 3-5 axis moco rig. There still a large market for professional-grade moco gear and will be for the foreseeable future. The Polaris is more for lower-end, simple stuff, which is still awesome to see how affordable it is!
Great review! CineShooter is definitely on the wish list
Thanks for watching!! Hopefully your wish comes true ;)
Hi Drew, thanks for this informative video. I can clearly see from the insight you gave us that the CineShooter definitely gives one the last 10% to achieve the perfectly executed motion controlled shots.
I have 2 questions though:
A) Is it possible to mount the CineShooter upside down? Do the motors still work accordingly? (Amazing for extreme elevated, downward shooting, motion controlled shots)
B) Is there any follow focus solution, like an additional motor that could be attached to control another "axis" (preferrably a follow focus with 0.8 pitch gears)?
Despite this being somewhat "biased" since you are an ambassador, it was very informative and showcased super well for the small amount of time this edit was running. Personally I'd be even interested into a "deep dive" for this product.
Thanks for watching Atilla!! Yes, you can mount it upside down and it still works perfectly (you'd just want to invert the motor directions when using) and yes, you can add both focus and zoom motors to the unit and key frame inside of kOS for perfection. It's pretty amazing!
Great review.how much is this little monster?
Thanks! Depending on what you get it's around $2800-3500.
Thx🥰
Nice review.
Any chance you could do a side by side comparison between this one and Kessler Second Shooter as well as RHINO ARC II?
There’s not much on RUclips on this system and how it really stacks up against others so anything you could provide would great!
Hey Darren! Thanks for watching. I can definitely do a side by side with the Cineshooter and Second Shooter but I don't have the Rhino slider unfortunately but I'm sure there are plenty of videos on that slider to look at. Once I'm back in the studio I'll make sure to do a nice comparison video.
Thanks! Looking forward to watching the next review.
Wow this looks amazing!
Thanks for the review.
Does the cineshooter come with everything you need to power your slider like the second shooter pro does?
I couldn’t seem to tell when looking on Kessler cranes website.
I have a stealth slider. Looking to get moco going :)
Thanks for watching! Yes, I believe it comes with the AC adapter for powered moves but you'll have to supply the other power options (but if you already have the SS Pro then you'll have power options for this since they're the same). Otherwise the only real thing you'd need is an ethernet cable to link to your slider (and the motor mount for the slider) and you're good to go! The Cineshooter works right out of the box for 2-axis shots (all you need is power). It's definitely an awesome piece of gear and worth the $$!
Have you ever used the edelkrone products ? I own edelkrone systems but considering this one if it’s any smoother than my edelkrone
I’m with you. The edelkrone stuff is so jumpy. Did you ever buy this?
I want to do long video single slide and pan landscapes (think Apple TV screensaver but 4 hrs long) how slow can this go smoothly? Do you think it’s capable? I don’t need lots of moves just super smooth not step-y slides
Yeah you can set it for whatever duration you'd like (4 hours is no problem). It's very smooth (so as long as the slider/track is clean).
What slider do you use with the cineshooter for run and gun shoots?
The Stealth Slider is my go-to for run and guns. You can get the carbon-fiber version which is ultra-light and can still handle a decently heavy payload (20lbs or so).
Hi, can this thing handle Ursa Mini Pro 12k from Blackmagic? My camera with cine lenses weighs around 5kg. How important is center of gravity on heavy cameras, what if camera is front heavy or back heavy, can this thing handle that? This thing is currently on my radar. Will also subscribe to keep up with your content.
Hi Niko, yes, if you purchase the support upgrade modual (shown in the video) it can support 25lbs for all 5-axis movements. I've loaded approximately 19lbs worth of camera, lenses and accessories and it works flawlessly on playback.
Thanks so much for subscribing!!
Kessler vs edelkrone, what's better?
Kessler, 100%. Their products are higher end and more reliable.
Insightful review. As a Kessler ambassador with deep knowledge and experience with Kessler motion control systems do you intend do a master class on the Kessler Cineshooter?
Thanks for watching! We can definitely make that happen ;)
What slider are you using with the CineShooter?
I use the Stealth Slider, Shuttle-Dolly, and Cineslider, just depending on the location, move, and need. They all have different purposes.
The best difference here vs second shooter plus is lack of wires. It looks like there's one wire here. If anyone really wants to save some money to get into motion control, get a used second shooter system.
The lack of additional wires and controlers is definitely a huge plus! You can't go wrong with the Second Shooter either - both are solid moco rigs!
Great review!
However I think the age of expensive motion systems is over.
With benro Polaris kickstart project
We enter new age of motorized systems
That anyone can afford .
Kaslar crane make great devices for sure
But over 3,000 $ that’s crazy price
Thanks for watching David! The Polaris does look interesting but I don't think it's of the same caliber as the Cineshooter or any other professionally made 3-5 axis moco rig. There still a large market for professional-grade moco gear and will be for the foreseeable future. The Polaris is more for lower-end, simple stuff, which is still awesome to see how affordable it is!