The way that you're designing this while considering our natural hand/finger movement is a major concept that the mainstream products are overlooking. I'd love to buy one of these.
Have you heard of Azeron? Because your invention is practically the same. Not saying you copied them, but I thought it would be a good reference for improving your peripheral.
@@run_down_mid8480 Wrong. I imagine you probably saw the specs and got that from the basic 5-way stick. The Azeron has 2 sticks, a 5-way and a true 360 stick.
We've missed you man! I took a look back at your channel just last week to rewatch the pc builds and was wondering where you had been! Great to see your back with another banger :)
Dang, I actually came up with a concept similar to this but it used the entire base as the joystick. Obviously I never tried making it but I’m glad to see someone made a better version
I used to use a Razer Orbweaver all the time. There are some differences between this and an orbweaver, mainly the joystick is an ACTUAL joystick. Freeing your fingers so that your thumb does ALL the movement is really a game changer. The only downside is reteaching yourself to jump with another key. You cannot use your thumb to jump in some games with this configuration, due to mechanics like hold space to jump higher while being able to press a directional key to change directions while midair. Anyways, Im excited to see your v2. I have been following all of your controller builds since the first one and love all of them. Keep it up!
Reminds me of the Azeron Cyborg - I LOVE your other hand held controller concept. I could see it really taking off, if you could make the thumb circle captured so that the pad wouldn't fall out. Could even make the capture ring replaceable and customizable, with different colors able to snap in.
I wish you the most success, you had a problem and tried to solve it, and went out of your way to learn what ever process it took to resolve it. Love what you do, and keep at it. I see fortune in your favor
Let's go he is back! This looks very nice, is this the future of your controller-mouse project or is this a separated project and you might still continue to upgrade the controller-mouse again?
I would assume this would be another project since this really wouldn’t put controller players on a more even playing field than M&K (with aiming still being done with a stick). Still a cool project though
How Sony & Microsoft & Nintendo haven't snatched this guy up is insane. He's literally doing what all those companies combined can't even figure out how to do.
why would they he has not produced a stand alone product yet. all his inventions is based off of relocation of parts from mice and keboards into his own physical contraptions. great hacks but nothing that he has done that you nor i or anyone else can't do if your a hacker.
I've been a life long k&m player and I've always wanted something like this and yet "gaming" companies have consistently dropped the ball and overlooked this necessity year after year. The fact that you made one is amazing. Would have loved to have grown up with something like this. Absolute game changer. I stupidly bought a Razer n52 (Nostromo) not realizing the joystick is actually a 4 way hat and not analog 360⁰ multi directional and never worked right. Have up on this idea and using it altogether since there's literally nothing like this on the market. Even your mouse is a clever design but your right, it's better to have that analog on the keyboard hand. Well done. Would definitely buy this
Quite excited to see even just the 3D files for this as I've been seriously thinking about building one myself but didn't want to be bothered with the ergonomic measurements. Though instead of using a hacked up controller it'd be nice to see this done with a custom pcb and micro controller/arduino/esp32 to make it something we can write drivers for to tweak and adjust things like deadzone, etc. Combine this with HE analog and maybe HE switches and you could do some seriously cool things with gaming peripherals.
This man is simply amazing the work he's done. The design here is genus. Can't wait to get my hands on this to try to make it. My 3d printer is willing & ready :)
Hope you’re doing well tech yesterday can’t wait to see what you have planned in the future. Im a long time viewer and if there’s someway I can support you I’d love to!
in 5-6 years, when y'all have single-handedly cornered the market on gaming peripherals, I want it to be known that we were all here near the beginning of y'all's journey. Keep up the amazing work!
Dude, I just found your channel and saw your previous controller design and I'm impressed with your ingenuity, the placement of thumb stick in a more ergonomic position is just brilliant!
I've seen more of these diys for these gamepads, but the makers of azeron are coming out with the master version...it has all the buttons at an more vertical angle allowing better ergonomics with the analog stick more vertical as well so when you press left on the analog your actually pushing left rather then upwards..if you kno what I mean. I have my Tartarus V2 set at such an angle my my side in my chair, I try to keep it at a height that my shoulders are leveled as well...ergonomics is so important to long term gaming.
@@techyesterday4960 I had left a comment in this video three months ago near it's upload, mentioning the idea of this concept, they released that video a month later..
Love your video man! To finish up my doctorate, I'm going to be doing some program development and research this summer in adaptive gaming for community members with motor disabilities. I would love to be able to pick your brain some time to talk about controller iteration, ergonomics, and the such.
Do you fine you self's hand getting fatigue from the finger buttons ? Great job. I want to do the similar thing. But I want it to have a laser pointer. 2:30 I have not came up with a great solution yet.
Looks great! I myself never had a problem with keyboard + mouse for FPS games apart from it not being as comfortable as a controller, but I get that for people who have never gamed on a PC before it's probably quite difficult to get used to. I'm hoping you will still work on your controller project cause that's something I would personally be a lot more interested in. This ergonomic keyboard+thumbstick is great, but you still have to use it at a desk and as far as I understood you still need a mouse as well. On the other hand, getting precise aiming on a controller would be even more comfortable and perfect for gaming anywhere.
My man with his crazy inventions. So I was thinking about something similar to this but with a right hand counterpart, with the mouse built in. The reason being doing a 180 turn with a mouse is terrible, but really easy on controller. So potentially you could use a thumbstick for fast/large movements and then slide it like a mouse when your aiming for precision movements. It'd interesting to see how the two perform together.
Search Azeron keypads if you’re interested in purchasing something like this. They have multiple versions of 3D printed joystick keyboards. I’ve used their original version for a while and can attest to the quality. Takes some getting used to but worth it if that’s what you’re looking for.
If you haven’t already thought of this you might be able to make the thumb stick press down as another key and use an xbox elite 2 thumbstick to add a KontrolFreek and adjust tension.
It's so frustrating that there's not a product like this to buy, which ever company gets their shit together and puts this on the market first will make a fortune!
Great solution! This is the 3rd idea around this type of gaming accessories, but the FIRST which using original switches. I have two suggestions: It should be adjustable as our hands are not the same size (also fo example I am left handed) and the control board should be a teensy or arduino board.
So with the launch of the Steam Deck, iFixIt has come out with a replacement Analog Stick. How simple would it be to use that instead of a whole ass PS2 controller?
I'm just here thinking that maybe this could be a great controller for people who don't have a hand, movement with the keys and the camera with the stick Maybe not for Fortnite but i think some games with a slower pace could work very well
You just built my dream controller. I was thinking about a similar project. But your design is more mature... I think I'm going to draw inspiration from yours.
Thanks for pursuing your passion! The world appreciates it. As a super casual and more couch oriented gamer I was interested in the mouse controller too. Will you be making the build info for that project open source too?
How does this avoid issues where certain games can only accept M+K or Gamepad input at once, and if the later mode is enabled, it can't read key inputs; and if the former mode is enabled, it can't read analog stick inputs? I've owned the Logitech G13 and the Hori Tacpro/Asssault Commander pro, which are similar devices, and that's the issue I usually run into with those.
The Azeron gets around this by simulating the analog stick as WASD directly, rather than full analog (but has options for both in the software). Made my life much better with Warzone and Doom Eternal! Having one with mechanical keys would be incredible, though
My opinion is i love gaming and have always played on consul but i am currently switching and i have had the same thought as to how keyboards are not an optimized gaming performance layout. I cant wait to see your tutorial video.
hey there, i wanted to ask you if you are still working on other projects. this idea got me smiling again since the last video i saw from you was controller thumb mouse v3. im excited what you'll come up with in the joystick keyboard v2.
This product should have been made years ago. Really awesome stuff. I have a razer Tartarus and the thumb button placement has less thought put in then your prototype. I don't have the technical know how to make my own. But I hope this design catches on.
the length of your wire could increase latency and increase power consumption. i recommend uncoiling that wire and cutting the excess off and re soldering. The build looks incredible btw. props to you for printing the chassis.
Not sure if it is there, but i was thinking, it would be cool to have configurability similar to dactyl manuform, where you have variables for your finger length and etc -- so that everyone can print a case for their needs
Of course, and the Azeron is not a fucking copy of the 1995 datahand keyboard, is it? information that the factory of letionia seeks to supirm by all means to give merit to its plagiarism. ruclips.net/video/T7UajuYCIyk/видео.html&t ruclips.net/video/yLXflEEQqSU/видео.html&t first get well informed, champion
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im giving this away to one of you mofos....call it a "im sorry" present for being away so long...leave a comment if you're interested!
I’m literally at skl rn this noti is the best thing that happened today
I really want this cool looking thing it looks so good
Still waiting for that console killer v3 video bro and btw you should sell these controllers
I'm super interested, I definitely need to try it
Honestly I’d like to check it out, I’m glad someone made a better design and it seems pretty ergonomic
The way that you're designing this while considering our natural hand/finger movement is a major concept that the mainstream products are overlooking. I'd love to buy one of these.
Umm, you can. Azeron or Razer Tartorus.
Yeah what @Masterpaintingnowlearn2draw said.
Have you heard of Azeron? Because your invention is practically the same. Not saying you copied them, but I thought it would be a good reference for improving your peripheral.
Lol he think hes just invented a New thing
He stole it clearly
Azeron doesn't have real 360 controller movement its has normal WASD inputs with a joystick slapped on top of it
@@run_down_mid8480 has it
@@run_down_mid8480 Wrong. I imagine you probably saw the specs and got that from the basic 5-way stick. The Azeron has 2 sticks, a 5-way and a true 360 stick.
We've missed you man! I took a look back at your channel just last week to rewatch the pc builds and was wondering where you had been! Great to see your back with another banger :)
Me too i watch the 2019 uploads
Dang, I actually came up with a concept similar to this but it used the entire base as the joystick. Obviously I never tried making it but I’m glad to see someone made a better version
This looks absolutely amazing. Cant wait to see the step by step guide
I used to use a Razer Orbweaver all the time. There are some differences between this and an orbweaver, mainly the joystick is an ACTUAL joystick. Freeing your fingers so that your thumb does ALL the movement is really a game changer. The only downside is reteaching yourself to jump with another key. You cannot use your thumb to jump in some games with this configuration, due to mechanics like hold space to jump higher while being able to press a directional key to change directions while midair.
Anyways, Im excited to see your v2. I have been following all of your controller builds since the first one and love all of them. Keep it up!
Reminds me of the Azeron Cyborg - I LOVE your other hand held controller concept. I could see it really taking off, if you could make the thumb circle captured so that the pad wouldn't fall out. Could even make the capture ring replaceable and customizable, with different colors able to snap in.
I wish you the most success, you had a problem and tried to solve it, and went out of your way to learn what ever process it took to resolve it. Love what you do, and keep at it. I see fortune in your favor
Let's go he is back! This looks very nice, is this the future of your controller-mouse project or is this a separated project and you might still continue to upgrade the controller-mouse again?
I would assume this would be another project since this really wouldn’t put controller players on a more even playing field than M&K (with aiming still being done with a stick). Still a cool project though
i resonate with this guy . controllers deserve better aiming capabilities
Excitedly waiting for the assembly video.. Wanna replicate and see what improvements can be made upon it further.
I liked previous project more, lots of peoples prefer controller because it doesn’t required a desk to play
Totally agree! But this is still very cool, it just wouldn't be my ideal way to play, cause as you said, you still need to be sitting at a desk.
I was literally thinking about this yesterday (pun not intended lol) like a azeron keypad with actual keys, i would love to have one of these!
How Sony & Microsoft & Nintendo haven't snatched this guy up is insane. He's literally doing what all those companies combined can't even figure out how to do.
why would they he has not produced a stand alone product yet. all his inventions is based off of relocation of parts from mice and keboards into his own physical contraptions. great hacks but nothing that he has done that you nor i or anyone else can't do if your a hacker.
I've been a life long k&m player and I've always wanted something like this and yet "gaming" companies have consistently dropped the ball and overlooked this necessity year after year. The fact that you made one is amazing. Would have loved to have grown up with something like this. Absolute game changer. I stupidly bought a Razer n52 (Nostromo) not realizing the joystick is actually a 4 way hat and not analog 360⁰ multi directional and never worked right. Have up on this idea and using it altogether since there's literally nothing like this on the market. Even your mouse is a clever design but your right, it's better to have that analog on the keyboard hand. Well done. Would definitely buy this
Quite excited to see even just the 3D files for this as I've been seriously thinking about building one myself but didn't want to be bothered with the ergonomic measurements. Though instead of using a hacked up controller it'd be nice to see this done with a custom pcb and micro controller/arduino/esp32 to make it something we can write drivers for to tweak and adjust things like deadzone, etc. Combine this with HE analog and maybe HE switches and you could do some seriously cool things with gaming peripherals.
I’m interested with stl
This man is simply amazing the work he's done. The design here is genus. Can't wait to get my hands on this to try to make it. My 3d printer is willing & ready :)
Any updates to this? Great idea here.
I like it its a lot like the Azeron keypad there's is just for a wired connection to PC is this one compatible with Xbox/PS Wirelessly
Congrats, your project seems like a solid gaming improvement. For extra immersion use the haptic motor drivers from the joystick as well. : )
I have a AZERON but I like your design better where can I buy it?
Hope you’re doing well tech yesterday can’t wait to see what you have planned in the future. Im a long time viewer and if there’s someway I can support you I’d love to!
in 5-6 years, when y'all have single-handedly cornered the market on gaming peripherals, I want it to be known that we were all here near the beginning of y'all's journey. Keep up the amazing work!
Have you stopped working on the controller with a thumb mouse ? And when is the next video with the open source files coming
Amazing. Really next level design. I'm totally sold. Where/when can we look for these plans? I'm ready to build!
Dude, I just found your channel and saw your previous controller design and I'm impressed with your ingenuity, the placement of thumb stick in a more ergonomic position is just brilliant!
I've seen a similar thing to this. Think it's called the Azeron keypad.
Liking yours more, seems easier to learn.
Razer has one as well
@@harrysacket
No, that's a different thing...
@@harrysacket yeah i have it but can't get use to mkb. it's' the tatarus pro.
Great idea and perfecting a concept. I still want mouse controller tho!
Hell yeah! This is sick. I've used razer gamepads since 2009 and always hated the directional pad type of "joy stick". This is dream.
I've seen more of these diys for these gamepads, but the makers of azeron are coming out with the master version...it has all the buttons at an more vertical angle allowing better ergonomics with the analog stick more vertical as well so when you press left on the analog your actually pushing left rather then upwards..if you kno what I mean. I have my Tartarus V2 set at such an angle my my side in my chair, I try to keep it at a height that my shoulders are leveled as well...ergonomics is so important to long term gaming.
azeron master? do you have a link to this device? curious
@@techyesterday4960Here you are ruclips.net/video/MeuA1Uu5Qug/видео.html
@@techyesterday4960 I had left a comment in this video three months ago near it's upload, mentioning the idea of this concept, they released that video a month later..
looks neat, well done. For the wrist on the desk bit there are wrist rests you can get to help with the comfort.
Love your video man! To finish up my doctorate, I'm going to be doing some program development and research this summer in adaptive gaming for community members with motor disabilities. I would love to be able to pick your brain some time to talk about controller iteration, ergonomics, and the such.
Dude! I have been stalking this channel for the past 10 months waiting for the next iteration lol Sick!
Your invention reminds me of the Azeron Gaming Keyboard in its design, but I still think that your keypad is amazing!
Do you fine you self's hand getting fatigue from the finger buttons ?
Great job. I want to do the similar thing. But I want it to have a laser pointer. 2:30 I have not came up with a great solution yet.
Looks great! I myself never had a problem with keyboard + mouse for FPS games apart from it not being as comfortable as a controller, but I get that for people who have never gamed on a PC before it's probably quite difficult to get used to. I'm hoping you will still work on your controller project cause that's something I would personally be a lot more interested in. This ergonomic keyboard+thumbstick is great, but you still have to use it at a desk and as far as I understood you still need a mouse as well. On the other hand, getting precise aiming on a controller would be even more comfortable and perfect for gaming anywhere.
finally..hes back..with even cooler stuff!!
this is what i wanted with my razer but this is way better
My man with his crazy inventions.
So I was thinking about something similar to this but with a right hand counterpart, with the mouse built in. The reason being doing a 180 turn with a mouse is terrible, but really easy on controller. So potentially you could use a thumbstick for fast/large movements and then slide it like a mouse when your aiming for precision movements. It'd interesting to see how the two perform together.
Search Azeron keypads if you’re interested in purchasing something like this. They have multiple versions of 3D printed joystick keyboards. I’ve used their original version for a while and can attest to the quality. Takes some getting used to but worth it if that’s what you’re looking for.
That keypad joystick is awesome keep up the good work
If you haven’t already thought of this you might be able to make the thumb stick press down as another key and use an xbox elite 2 thumbstick to add a KontrolFreek and adjust tension.
It's so frustrating that there's not a product like this to buy, which ever company gets their shit together and puts this on the market first will make a fortune!
lol true
Azeron keyboard ,yourelive in the past
Azeron Keypad, it’s been on the market for nearly 4 years.
Great solution! This is the 3rd idea around this type of gaming accessories, but the FIRST which using original switches. I have two suggestions: It should be adjustable as our hands are not the same size (also fo example I am left handed) and the control board should be a teensy or arduino board.
I want to make this!!! Where can I get the 3d models?
wait, there's something like this on the market already isn't there? i remember seeing one company 3d printing a product almost identical
VCuda did a review on it, supposedly breaks easily.
So with the launch of the Steam Deck, iFixIt has come out with a replacement Analog Stick. How simple would it be to use that instead of a whole ass PS2 controller?
I really like this design.
where do I get one of these? lol I don't want the Azeron
I'm just here thinking that maybe this could be a great controller for people who don't have a hand, movement with the keys and the camera with the stick
Maybe not for Fortnite but i think some games with a slower pace could work very well
Also, this looks extremely professional, the 3D printing is amazing, compared to how the projects started, this looks great.
You just built my dream controller. I was thinking about a similar project. But your design is more mature... I think I'm going to draw inspiration from yours.
You line of thought is blowing my mind. Can you make an explanatory video of it? Like, Which key does what, and how it all works ?
I want this! I can't wait for the instructions! I have a 3d printer and I've wanted a peripheral like this FOREVER!!!!
i think ive seen kinda similar things but this looks amazing, and what happened to the controller?
Presumably realized that this is literally what Azeron builds and they've already done it for like two years at least
You DIYed an Azeron Cyborg keypad. Cool.
this could make a great replacement for the g13... i wonder if we could get a custom pcb made for more inputs?
Thanks for pursuing your passion! The world appreciates it. As a super casual and more couch oriented gamer I was interested in the mouse controller too. Will you be making the build info for that project open source too?
How does this avoid issues where certain games can only accept M+K or Gamepad input at once, and if the later mode is enabled, it can't read key inputs; and if the former mode is enabled, it can't read analog stick inputs? I've owned the Logitech G13 and the Hori Tacpro/Asssault Commander pro, which are similar devices, and that's the issue I usually run into with those.
The Azeron gets around this by simulating the analog stick as WASD directly, rather than full analog (but has options for both in the software). Made my life much better with Warzone and Doom Eternal! Having one with mechanical keys would be incredible, though
My opinion is i love gaming and have always played on consul but i am currently switching and i have had the same thought as to how keyboards are not an optimized gaming performance layout. I cant wait to see your tutorial video.
hey there, i wanted to ask you if you are still working on other projects. this idea got me smiling again since the last video i saw from you was controller thumb mouse v3. im excited what you'll come up with in the joystick keyboard v2.
This product should have been made years ago. Really awesome stuff. I have a razer Tartarus and the thumb button placement has less thought put in then your prototype. I don't have the technical know how to make my own. But I hope this design catches on.
very very good work brother. where can find the files for this version?
I waiting like 4 months for the answer ahahah
the length of your wire could increase latency and increase power consumption. i recommend uncoiling that wire and cutting the excess off and re soldering.
The build looks incredible btw. props to you for printing the chassis.
Please man still drop the controller version
It's like an Azeron game pad with key switches. I like the idea of being able to use my Azeron with custom keycaps.
yeah the layout looked familiar and now i see where it came from.
You be surprise how easy you can mod it
Youre the best for making it open source. Many thanks!
Genius! I'm amazed with your handiwork and creativity! Keep up the great work.
Why do you not have a site, where we can buy some of the creations?
Ooh I would love to dig more into these stepfiles, are these already available?
Let’s go the 🐐 is back🔥
This is exactly what I need for this learning curve. I get lost on a keyboard so easily and have to look down to re position
You need to patent these designs!! I want your key pad man, seriously I would love to see you in business so I could buy one. Keep it up!
You should check out Azeron Keyboard
Great idea ! I love what you did with the joystick and the fact that you used keyboard keys :) I would by one if you sell it 😁
this one is hella innovative
As always great work always looking forward to your content
You the goat fr
This should have more views! Awesome!!
I love the idea, but do you still use it with a mouse as well?
I don't suppose you've published the STL files for this?
Why not have the thumb button directly below the thumb?
welcome back tech and great video! your damn creative and even inspired me to try 3D printing stuff
Great design, looks so functional! Any update on the release of the "how to make it" guide ?
Yesss hes back!! Oh how I've missed your vids ❤
I would love one of these! Can’t wait for the plans to drop!
Man never fails to impress
I'm interested! Finances are a pain in the butt and I've been wanting to try this out!
how did you design the palm rest on this?
Does the joystick count as a keyboard input or does it think it's from a controller? Sick vid btw
Looks like a older version of Azeron ?
This new thing looks amazing. Props
Bro
do you have a 3d printer to make these???... i want to make a personalized on as well
I waaaaaaaant thiiiiiiiis...!!! 😀👍👍👍 PS: OpenSource, you're the best!
Not sure if it is there, but i was thinking, it would be cool to have configurability similar to dactyl manuform, where you have variables for your finger length and etc -- so that everyone can print a case for their needs
I'd definitively buy one of these.
How has no big name manufacturer not jumped on this… This is legendary!!!
I NEED THIS IN MY LIFE!
Love the content, thank you.
Great to have you back mate yet again a very interesting video
Hey can you tell me the use of the joystick pls
Ahh yes, a homemade Azeron keypad! Don't forget to tell where you get the inspriration from!
Of course, and the Azeron is not a fucking copy of the 1995 datahand keyboard, is it?
information that the factory of letionia seeks to supirm by all means to give merit to its plagiarism.
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first get well informed, champion
you do realize the azeron isn't original? The design style was based off an old ergo keyboard.
Hey, i really remeber the times when u would make goated budget pc builds so, are you gonna make any budget builds this time soon?
This is amazing and I have enjoyed all of your previous videos exploring the subject. I hope to one day be able to purchase one from you!