The History of Minas Ithil/Morgul - Region Spotlight
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- Minas Morgul, known in its former days as Minas Ithil, was the city of Isildur of Gondor, and it stood in the Mountains of Shadow, close to Mordor. The city changed hands throughout its history in Tolkien’s Middle-earth, sometimes being a seat of the Men of the West, and at other times being a seat of the thralls of Sauron. Thank you all so much for watching, let me know your thoughts on Minas Morgul in the comments below! As always, a great thanks to the online artists whose visual works made this video possible! If you are one of the artists, please let me know and I will post your name and a link to your work in this description!
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Despite the tragic fall of Minas Ithil and the deaths of its defenders, its very impressive how it took 2 long years until it was finally taken by all 9 nazgul. Even while being neglected as the watch on Mordor began to fail, it lasted 2 years for the nazgul to finally take it. Thats an impressive feat for the defenders of Minas Ithil.
The great plague played a huge factor too cause it reduced gondors numbers especially in osgiliath they were hit hard and it was their original capital, minas tirith wasn't hit which is why a majority of the population fled there it was all pre-planned by sauron which gave him easy wins over gondors main cities. As of minas ithil it was only defeated by black sorcery.
Gondor was very strong back the
I just realised, though I've read the books and stuff, probably more than half of my lore knowledge is this channel lol
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@@davidlee0817 is you like this you should check out the elder scrolls, it's a video game, but the lore is so deep and interesting
Same
I am in gondolin in middle earth reading the book currently it is so good
I'm actually really glad to hear that the City of the Moon was healed and made clean again. It is a sign that the works of the Dark Lord are not necessarily permanent, and may be undone givin time.
I would expect Minas Morgul to be left abandoned for at least a thousand years before being rebuilt. I imagine it would take many centuries for the corruption from a thousand years of evil sorcery to be scoured and washed away by clean wind and untainted rain.
That’s the order I would give in Aragorn’s place, anyway. Rebuilding Osgiliath should naturally take priority over rebuilding Minas Ithil, being much closer to Minas Tirith.
@@timonsolus Very true!
Isildur almost lost his life in obtaining the tree, which had been sequestered after Sauron suborned the King of Numenor. Isildur broke into the place where the tree was kept, and fought his way out with a seedling. When he returned to his home in the west of Numenor, he was sorely wounded and near death. When the seedling of the tree he had stolen began to thrive, his wounds healed and he rose from his sickbed.
That’s a good part of the story, showing that the White Tree actually has a power of its own.
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Minas Morgul a.k.a Minas Ithil. Wowie! Brilliant work as always Yoystan!
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I really love how Minas Morgul looks in LotRO with the Tower of the Crescent Moon having those beautiful beams of light coming out of it, such a gorgeous take on the city!
Steward Mardil Voronwë: Your Majesty, please don’t go! We need you to stay!
King Eärnur: Don’t worry, I’m not leaving forever. I’m just going to Minas Morgul to pick up some milk. I’ll be back in five minutes, I promise.
I think in one LOTR game, Eärnur was captured, corrupted, and turned into a Nazgul. I liked that idea!
@@timonsolus not a nazgul, but a lesser wraith. Earnur is made into a Cargul. Carn(red/flesh) + gul(wraith). He is the one known as Gothmog during the pellenor fields.
@@NOIDEAIWILLJUSTUSEHAILEYIGUESS really?
@@murtazaaliahmad1905 in the Lord of the Rings Online theres this big portion of the story focused on Earnur, how he was turned into Gothmog, and why his return must be stopped, as his claim to the throne is stronger than Aragorn’s.
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Gondor: Creates a bunch of fortresses and defences along the border with Mordor to ensure Gondor will always be able to keep the evil of Sauron at bay.
Sauron: Takes over the fortresses ensuring that the Dark Lord has several bases to easily move out of Mordor with ease, and the ability to defend his realm in a way he didn’t previously.
Gondor: **Shocked Pikachu Face.**
Better call them Minas Maginot
Sauron: "I'm gonna do something, called "pro-gamer move"
well gondor is already at doom thanks to denetor's leadership and thanks to king aragon elessar gondor was saved and the arnor was rebuild
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Gondors fortresses were built before sauron was in mordor they didnt know he was gonna go there lol they got fucked over by sarumans betrayal to sauron and his plague which killed off its main population
"The Witch King of Angmar....
Minas Morgul is his lair....."
Definitely one of the last places in M.E. that I would want to visit 😬
But I think the fall of Minas Ithil was an important event; for it is what would have happened to Minas Tirith, along with the rest of the world, had the free peoples had failed. Thank Tolkien they didnt :)
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I still think that King Eärnur could have been captured by the Witch-king and transformed into a lesser Wraith. Peter Jackson's alterations and additions to Tolkien's legendarium (in this case, pertaining to the imprisonment/entombment of the Nazgul in the 'Hobbit' movies) makes me wonder how Minas Ithil was captured and held by the forces of Mordor in the continuity of the films?
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If you have time, I'd love to hear your theory of how the first interaction between Gimli and Aule in Valinor went.
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Great job explaining all the details of how Minus Ithil became Minus Morgul I love it!
Awesome, Just started reading the series once again, Great content!
Hey thanks for the lore video Mr. West!!! I always wanted to know the backstory on this one.
thanks for this!
I'm glad you portrayed the Witch King on horseback during the departure of his army for the Pellenor fields: although he was mounted on a fell beast later, the film showed him on one throughout. (I saw only the 'Fellowship of the Ring' film - because of all the deviations and omissions from the books!)
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When I first saw this with my uncle when I was seven, I was always so scared of the Ringwraiths
I used to be scared of nazgul cave trolls and shelob
Great as always!
Man this place always s
Spooky . But it i love the art and lore for the city.
Thank you for this! I’ve always wondered if Minas Ithil was ever retaken. Glad it was. Recommend playing Shadow of War to experience it!
Got a lot of steel to shape...
Gods be praised!
Wait, that's Skyrim.
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OMG! YEEESS!!!! Ever since the Fall of Mordor, i ALWAYS wondered about that place!
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I think the entrance of Minas Morgul looks beautifully ominous in the movie. I love the emerald glow it had, but it ain't so nice considering what's behind those doors.
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Great Halloween video. "For, said [Aragorn], Minas Ithil in Morgul vale shall be utterly destroyed, and though in time it may become clean again, no man shall dwell there for many years". Showing that even the most vile places can indeed become cleansed. A lesson for our country and our times.
Thanks I forgot this was coming out appropriate subject for Halloween
Cool video yoystan. And in your opinion do you think Aragorn might’ve turned minas ithil into either a rebuilt city or a new home for the enslaved people of Mordor?
a good video this is
Fastest I’ve ever hopped on one of these videos. Hearing the those trumpets always sucks me in
Shadow of War's totally worth it. Centers around Minas Ithil/Morgul & you get to experience locations and people all over Mordor, from Minas Ithil to the Easterlings' own - and it's all gorgeous. Plus the gameplay is wildly satisfying in itself.
If you're going to play both, Shadow of Mordor first for-sure, because it's crazy fun, but once you touch Shadow of War, you're not going back. It's just a straight-up upgrade in so many ways. The story and characters are super neat too, even if not strictly canonical. But if you can't make it through the first, I'd jump on to #2.
Wait, you forgot the part where some crazy man possessed by an elf caused all sorts of mayhem, then took a ring and kicked the Witch-King out for a while. That totally happened, right, it’s not like the people at WB would just make stuff up that doesn’t fit in the lore?
3:58. That image was epic.
I have always wondered how exactly the top of the tower rotated. That detail has always bothered me a little, like, how did it really look?
I've been wondering about this fortress.
Its depiction in Middle Earth: Shadow of War is amazing
I never considered that the Nazgul could poison light!
It makes that scene in Return of the King all the more ominous
I’d love to read of Aragorn after the LOTR searching the castle for clues as to what happened to Earnur.
I am in gondolin currently reading the book it is so good
Waaahhh! So cool.
could enable subtitles please?
Was the pass of Cirith ungol bigger then it was on the movies? How did Mordor send a such a big army through it? Or was there more than one path?
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Hey I just finished chapter 9 of the two towers not sure if it may be a difference of the version that I'm reading but I'm curious as to the details that you included regarding how Minas morgul responded to the red light that was shot into the sky with blue Lightning I don't recall reading anything about lightning and perhaps it was the movie stuck in my mind because unfortunately I was exposed that material first but I could have sworn that even in that chapter it said that the light itself came from Minas morgul
If you could kindly provide me with reference to this I would be greatly appreciate that.
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Hey Colbeck, thanks for the support, my friend! Here is the quote: "And Minas Morgul answered. There was a flare of livid lightnings: forks of blue flame springing up from the tower and from the encircling hills into the sullen clouds." -The Two Towers, "The Stairs of Cirith Ungol"
Thank you I will check this right now, I guess I was distracted when I was reading, I think I was pushing my nephew around in a stroller at the time 😅
Idea for another video - History of Dol Guldur
Hey I have read the hobbit, the lord of the rings, the silmarillion. I feel like there is more to read of the legendarium, is there? I have heard of unfinished tales and Beren and luthien but I thought the silmarillion covered those. Can anyone tell me what I am missing and anything else I love the legendarium.,
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Man, Tolkien loves the Theme in Middle Earth: There is Hope in Dark Times, and Minas Ithil is another Example!!!
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I've always wondered about "Sorcery" as it pertains to normal mortal beings. The Witch King was likely a great sorcerer of Numenor, but how did he become so? Where did he draw this power? My head cannon is that they are literally using their personal spirit to draw on Morgoth's power instilled in the very Earth, but it's merely a guess. This would enhance the Witch King's power in comparison to the other Nazgul, something he could draw upon and use to do things like decay the Earth.
The witch king was a king of men and get his power from Sauron, through a ring
@@seskal8595 I mean when he became a wraith that is definitely part of where his power came from. But I believe the general community has come to the conclusion, if not stated outright by Tolkien, that the Witch King was once a sorcerer of Numenor.
From where in canon are you referencing that minas ithil ? Elessars pronounced seemed far from certain that it would ever be rebuilt . As it was said about Frodo ; some evil will always leave its mark.
There is something about the lore of the ringwraiths that confuses me . If after the fall of Angmar the witch king went back to mordor and captured Minas Ithil, then when were the nine imprisoned in the high fells of Rudaur ? I don't know if what is mentioned in the hobbit movies is cannon but according to them, after the fall of Angmar the witch king and the other naz'gul were imprisoned in the so called tombs of the nine from were Sauron later called them to come to him in dol'guldur. Is that information cannon ? Were the nine actually ever imprisoned up there or not ?
No Canon, just the Hobbits movies bullshit
The Hobbit movies take a lot of liberties. Best to just ignore them.
I wonder if perhaps the Nazgul had begun mining and experimenting with radioactive materials of some type that gave Minas Morgul its sickly greenish glow
It’s one of my favorite locations in LOTR.
Kind of scary how people can live so close to Mordor. If I was living in Minus ithal and had a family, I’d totally relocate us to idk closer to Lindon or anywhere thousands of miles from Mordor.
noice
It surely was a city that deserved better😢
I do not see why the Numenoreans did not take the Palantiri in the beginning of the onslaught by the evil host of the Nazgul.
That's really clever. In a way, Minas Morgul is the dark counterpart to Minas Tirith.
As always Tolkien's skill as a writer are second to none.
Oh no they are on hold of Minas Ithil for 18 years now.
Even though I've read the Hobbit, LOTR and Simarillion I mainly learn from here because I do not have the rest of the "lore" books.
I don't understand why more media (movies, video games) don't cover the 2nd age and early 3rd age of LoTR. Its full of cool stories, and since the stories aren't really substantiated, there isn't a worry of screwing up the lore.
The Towers of the Moon,Stars,and Sun three of the mightiest cities to be ever be built.
Could you imagine people's faces if a person came up to their door on Halloween dresses as a Nazgul?
Question
Who was a better candidate for the 1 ring frodo or bilbo
What I think
I feel like it affected frodo more because he was going much closer to mordor making it easier for the ring to corrupt him which is why I think he succumbed to the ring much quicker than bilbo would have
Edit:I nearly wrote bobo instead of bilbo
But Bilbo was corrupted by the ring.
@@FireLordJohn3191 he had it much longer
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Let's not forget that Halloween is the feast of all saints, something I'm sure Tolkien, as a devout Catholic, would want us to remember. ✝️
I love how the wizards and nazgul and all them that work magic in the legendarium dont cast spells per se but they are the spell or magic!!
This feels weird because I'm watching this while I'm playing shadow of war
2:50 Minas Ithil looks like a lighthouse.. What if Numenor had aircraft carriers??
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Is there any real life city that has a similar story theme to the fate of Minas Ithil (Morgul). The closest I can find is the ultimate fate of Constantinople. A beautiful city located in strategic position the last bastion the crossroads separating the Christian west with the Muslim east ultimately the city would decline occupied and renamed for centuries to come.
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Morgul vale is a dark place built with the Moon in mind
Can u make a video about the elves after the 3 aged that didn't go West to valinor what happened to them.
The grey March shall commence on the shivering isled
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How can such a small place can fit more than fifty thousand orcs? Sauron sent 200.000 orcs to take down Minas Tirith and most of them are came from Minas Morgul. Is Minas Morgul really that big ?
"Not the imprisoned moonlight welling through the marble walls of Minas Ithil long ago, Tower of the Moon, fair and radiant in the hollow of the hills. Paler indeed than the moon ailing in some slow eclipse was the light of it now, wavering and blowing like a noisome exhalation of decay, a corpse light, a light that illuminated nothing." - The Two Towers "The Stairs of Cirith-Ungol"
Why does it seem like warriors from the 1st age are stronger than those from the 3rd
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