Forgiveness in A Silent Voice
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2018
- Today I decided to analyze the theme of forgiveness in KyotoAni's 2016 film, A Silent Voice. I hope you enjoy it! On a side note, I'm running some experiments this week on how to improve the audio quality of my videos, so hopefully my next one will come out sounding a little better.
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Forgiveness is an essential theme in Koe no Katachi, but I think it’s about more then simply being able to forgive those who’ve wronged you. It’s also about being able to forgive yourself. This was a great video that encapsulated the core of that theme marvelously. Looking forward to more content in the future. 💯
Also, glad to hear someone else take a closer look at Ueno as a character! Very polarizing, but very interestingly written!
Agreed!!!!
Silent Voice was better than Your Name I found, much more intimate.
Imad Nemeir Kimi no na wa isn't a great movie anyway, there are many incoherences in the plot and it's pretty meh overall. Though Koe no Katachi is a very good movie imo, it's well written, even if the end is better in the manga.
Ōkami Amaterasu I never said that Your Name is a good movie, I'm well aware of the inconsistencies, but I did enjoy the spectacle of it so I don't want to write it off as simply a bad movie. In regards to A Silent Voice, I wasn't aware of the manga until recently so I can't judge something I never read, but I did feel the ending to be a bit rushed, though on its own, the movie was a lot more coherent and intimate, with more raw emotions than the hype of Your Name.
I know, i didn't say Kimi no na wa isn't a good movie either, it's just average but overrated because of its gorgeous art/animation, but also its ambiance and its repetitive but quite cool soundtrack. I know why people loves Kimi no na wa, i know why its already considered as a classic, but i just mean Koe no Katachi should be appreciated equally since it's technically a better movie.
agreed
+Okami Amaterasu
In my opinion the first two third of Kimi no na wa are amazing and were promising of a truly great movie. The last third made it pretty dissapointing and it's where I have all the grudges agains't it. It lost it's steam and it's pace and started to reach too much incoherent stuff.
Silent voice is consistent in quality all thought out. So it leaves a way better impression. That makes me more keen to watch it again.
A bridge is a connection point between two disparate bodies of land separated by an uncrossable divider. In an otherwise in traversable area it allows one to cross over from the place where they are, to where they hope to be.
We see it in the beginning, where jumping off of the bridge is a defiance of boredom, or the unchanging state of ones day to day life, at the "end", where jumping off the of the bridge is an acceptance of ones own unchanged state and the will to end it, and throughout, every Tuesday, to feed the swarming creatures lurking in "the water under the bridge". As if even after moving on and accepting the past for what it was, everyone meeting at that point is still hungry, unsatisfied with the fact that nothing has changed since then, even if it was buried with time.
The significance of the scene after ishida wakes up is that the hospital is located on the opposite side of town as his house; he enters the bridge from the right side for the first time, where shoko after a night of roaming the town finds herself entering on the left. It wasnt that she could never accept shoyas apology, but rather that he was unable to give it until they met at that same connection point from the opposite perspective, faced with the consequences of their inability to change and the effect that it has on others (shoyas hospital gown and shokos arm sling).
This is the answer to miyokos question from the manga. "how can you prove that you've really changed?" It wasn't by sacrificing himself on that balcony, but by the simple act of meeting shoko from the opposite side of the bridge for the first time. They never visit the bridge again after that because its function is no longer needed. That was the first act of fulfilling his promise, and thus the proof of his change.
"Kami sama, give me just one more ounce of strength. I won't escape from my challenges in life. Starting tomorrow, I'll look at everyone's face. I'll listen to everyone's voice."
Forgiveness in anime is often represented wrongly. It's either too fast, or it doesn't make sense. A Silent Voice nails it perfectly by presenting forgiveness as something you don't really get, but something you earn by actions, not words, not feelings.
This movie helped me come back from a very dark place in my life. I was giving serious though about killing my self. I thought that I deserved all the bad things that happen to me in my life, that I was unworthy of forgiveness or kindness from myself and thouse around me. That the lonelyness I felt was perminet and everyone would be better without me.
When the movie ended and i saw the x on thouse around him faces peal away and he saw how bright and beautiful the world around him was an that he did want to live, it hit me hard. I cryed for a solid day after that seen. Because I to wanted to live. And it made me think maybe I was worthy of forgiveness and that the punishment I gave to myself was worse then what anyone would believe I disserved or give me.
Also I may be playing favorites but this move is 10 times better then Your Name. Better story better characters better message just plane better over all.
@savagecatgt. I've been there too. Had many years 'suffering' with depression, before gradually realising that it wasn't in control, I was. Changed my mindset. I now 'live with' rather than 'suffer from' depression. It's like a mangy old black dog that hangs around, but doesn't get fed anymore. How do you change? Remember - there is only one of you; you are unique and can never be replaced. Find something good everyday, no matter how small that something is. The world is better with you in it :)
savagecatgt I know you probably won’t see this but, I thank you for saying this, I saw your comment 4 months ago and it made me think about how I was exactly like that and still am, You helped pull me back from my void of self hatred and try and talk to my friends about my problems, they suspected but were just glad I finally said it out loud
This inspired me man. Best to luck in your journey ✊💯
A Silent Voice was better than Your Name #ShitsFired, but ye I really liked A Silent Voice because of realistically it portrays bullying, also my favorite scenes were when everyone blames him(not because I wanted him to be the only one in trouble because I didn't, but because it's so realistic, like the way everyone even the teacher acted was very childish and people should know better because that kind of stuff happens irl) and when they r all on the bridge and he goes off and explains everyone's flaws(it's my favorite scene in that anime because I almost never expect a character to say what he or she is thinking about others directly to their face like that.).
Nah u right
agreed
Otaku Overlord they’re both good in their own ways
Otaku Overlord
Why did you state your opinion as a fact?
I AGREE WITH U I LOBE SILENT VOICE PEOPLE WHO MADE A THEORY THEY ALWAYS USE DEEP WORDS WHYYYY I'M SO SAD :((((((((((((((( I AM GLASING!!!
This movie was so good; I legit started crying in the theater.
I'm not deaf, but this movie does such a good job of making you empathize. And as someone who struggles with social anxiety, the visual metaphor of the X's, and the themes of social isolation really resonated with me.
Silent voice, a relatable and beautiful movie that really goes to show that forgiving someone starts with accepting ones flaws, and then being able to show that you arent the same bastard from the past
This is the type of video I was hoping to watch when I subscribed.
Great video.
While I love the movie, one issue I had with the movie was that it primarily framed the bullying as just Shoya bullying Shoko, it kinda underplayed the bullying being done by the rest of the class and the teachers. As it was framed in the movie, it really did seem like it was primarily just him bullying Shoko, where as in the manga, they make it much more clear that it was actions being done by the entire class, thus making him become the scapegoat much more impactful.
To be fair, because maybe its not as clear as it could be, I never read the manga, but was able to pick out he was the scapegoat. Though it follows Shoya, the movie frames it such that it makes clear the teacher of all ppl should never have let what he or the rest of that class happen to Shoko, thus showing that Shoya becomes the scapegoat when shit hits the fan.
I mean, the very first instance of bullying is from Miki, which I think frames it pretty well. I will agree it wasn't perfect, though.
As someone who read the manga, it doesn't fully blame the others in the same way Shoya, but it does make it perfectly clear that they are indeed at fault, and even the teacher was in on it at times. Though I do feel like if they shifted the focus to also pay attention to the whole class, some of the intimacy of the story would have been lost.
I watched this right after Your Name and I personally found I enjoyed A Silent Voice more. There's just a stronger, deeper & heartfelt connection with the characters.
Nice!
Is there a channel you don't watch?
Not nice
Batguette Man There's a video about him
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Colonizer-Chan I know it's kind of random, but I couldn't resist. So if I understood that right, Justin Y.'s name is Steve? 😝
I vastly prefered A Silent Voice to Your Name which I found too light on its themes despite having stunning visuals and a neat concept.
Your Name isn't even my favourite Shinkai movie tbh, I think it's competent, but nowhere near 5cm per second's or Voices from a distant Star's raw depiction of long distance relationships,
or The Garden of Words' love between two people meeting inside a bubble while having vastly different backgrounds.
In A Silent Voice, emotions and human interactions are the central part of the story, that's what I like about it (even if there are some rushed sub plots and a little bit too much teen angst sometimes)
Im crying... AGAIN!
Looks like I need to take a page from Ishida's story and learn to forgive myself. Great video.
I think I connected with Ishida the most. I’ve had the same struggles with social anxiety and depression. I’ve also had similar experiences with bullying, being both on the giving and receiving end. That’s why this movie cut me so deep. It’s one of the finest anime movies out there.
Man that final scene with the last shot of Shoko and the final quiet notes on the piano.... it’s the only piece of media to ever bring me to actual tears multiple times. Every time I watch it, I think I can finally hold on, but that final smile kicks in and something inside me just shatters. I don’t know why Koe No Karachi strikes such a chord with me, but man it just feels incredible to experience such legitimately strong emotion when much of my emotional understanding is so numbed.
A silent voice is my over all favourite movie. It's beautiful
I love A Silent Voice, it's probably one of my favourite films. What struck me most when I first watched it was Shoya's struggle against anxiety and depression which is, unfortunately, really relatable for me, so seeing him overcome it and become content with himself was really quite beautiful and I really felt good for him, as I know first hand how bad he felt. It's really cool to see other people's interpretations of it, and I actually feel like I've learned something about forgiveness from this video. There's someone who I feel like I need to forgive, but what they did was horrible, so maybe instead I can try to just accept it and get on with my life.
A silent voice can be so relatable to many people. This is the only anime, so far, that actually made me cry a little.
I see you’re trying something new with your mic. The mic you’re using may be a dynamic mic in which it picks up all sounds around it verses a condenser mic that picks sounds in front of it. I may have the definition slightly wrong but I have a condenser mic with an external sound card. I use to do some music production. You sound fine but if you want to get rid of the ambient noise best to record in a closet or spend some cash on a different mic setup.
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I love this story so much that I'm still furious that the other bullies were never punished for their actions. Especially the blonde girl.
It was f****** sad, man.
Personally both Shouko and Shouya personally had it rough. I'd know because I've had my own personal issues I have trouble accepting.
It's hard to forgive when you can't forget the pain.
I used to be a teacher at an elementary school.
Children tend to reject those who are different and this movie portrays it flawlessly.
Three things to remember:
1. People are hurting.
2. People project their pain.
3. It's nothing personal.
Ahh I'm glad that this was in my recommended, great video!
~A Silent Voice is one of my favourite anime and I never really thought about forgiveness so this opened my eyes! What always hit me was social anxiety and how they showed that. The last scene with Ishida always blows me away. That feeling of loving, accepting and those worries going away are amazing feelings. When he cries uncontrollably it is so real. Forgiveness didn't effect me too much while watching, but rather a self reflection on if I need to forgive.
Loved what you went with regarding this story. I really hope you channel grows a lot more, since this is the type of content I enjoy the most; nothing too fancy and presented in a very neat, 'pragmatic' way. The fact that you covered Satoshi Kon's works giving Millennium Actress as much time as any of his other projects is certainly bonus points from me.
Delightful and insightful video. Always love coverage of this gem. Can't wait to binge the rest of your videos!!
1:46 is a real tongue twister lol
I've always thought that A silent voice was the best think I've ever watched or read (I'm thinking more on the read side) the first reason was how real of a character of Ishida is, he was the most relatable character in anything to me, the battle of boredom and his tendency to over think of is justified is similar to my thought patterns, also he isn't built on a stereo type , how many shows are based off a character indulged in his regret and faces the challenge of developing but also needs the regret in order to make up for The regret, in addition to my personal thoughts of idhifa being one of the best characters in anime, the movie and book is always making RUclips review and yet deriving completely different meaning out it like "forgiveness" or "A silent voice about not listening" and I think there is a video that contradicts this (although not as a direct attack to the previous video I just made it) I think it shows that it's a movie more then about some "Oh don't commit suicide theme" and the author focused on just being honest with her story.
I just fell in love with your channel. The way you analyze the movies or shows make me want to rewatch them and about them more deeply than before. That you always make quality videos about something good that I would miss, or what i love like for example Satoshi Kon's works. I hope that you make a video about "In This Corner of the World" It's really a beautiful, subtle and moving story about living during second war; Despite the amount of great anime movies in 2016 Im sure its my favourite.
I like that you talked about ueno.
She really is an interesting character.
Came here from reddit, really enjoyed this. You do a great job of bringing ideas to the forefront and elaborating on them. Was just only recently able to watch the movie and can say without a doubt that it's now one of my favorites!
The film was my gateway to the manga. This made a profound 8mpact on me as a person on both sides of the spectrum. Shoya, for being an asshole to others at times and being carefree about it, Shoko, because I was bullied because of being different, most especially being a person with disability and that guilt complex for being a burden to others. The inability to forgive myself during those times I screwed up in life, and shutting myself off from the people who cared for me and the world. I could go on and on, and seeing another video about A Silent Voice has always been interesting. I cried over it numerous times because of how real it is to me that I can relate. Thank you, for this wonderful video. I am enjoying your content, as a passionate anime fan, you have my respect and youre one of the very few content creators 5hat inspires me to one day make content like this. More power to you
I've been forgetting about this movie for a while now, but seeing that you made a video about it I had to watch it. I just finished doing so and immediately jumped into your video. This is such a beautiful movie, sad that it got overshadowed by Kimi no Nawa.
Forgiveness is truly a difficult subject, I really felt Ishida's and Shouko's struggle mainly in the trying to forgive yourself which is the hardest thing to do when you feel like a burden to other people around you. The fact that Shouko wasn't just trying to be nice because it was easier but because she felt it was the only way for her to atone for the burden she thought was causing to those around her made her one of my favorite characters ever.
This was such a good analysis! It made me once again feel so many of the things I felt while watching it originally
Wow, absolutely fantastic video! It really explores different themes within a silent voice and makes you think of what you may have missed throughout watching it. Keep up the great work! Instant subscribe :)
First off I love listening to your voice. And second I've watched the movie 31 and every time I swear the emotions are the same and the amount of foreshadowing and thought I put in while watching this movie is huge. Every time I watch it/read it I take a moment to put myself in another person's shoes and it really helps me view how others around me act and better see others perspectives. Honestly, this movie is one of the best anime movies I've seen. And I've been watching anime for nearly 12 years. :3
Not forgiveness, but Redemption.
This movie is about bullying, teenage anxiety, suicidal thoughts and redemption. It is a beautiful movie. It hits you in the feels and there are things that you can really relate to in this movie. That is what makes this movie so good, that it is human and it isn't afraid to show dive into such controversial subjects.
This is a good video though :)
I just stumbled across your canal and I really love the kinds of videos you do. I have watched many videos on a silence voice, but the views you present is just amazing. I really like the content you make, keep it up!:)
This is honestly my favourite movie ever. It hits me so hard every time.
i really stuggled the last years with selfforgiveness but this movie really helped and also your video showed me even more
from the bottom of my heart thanks a lot
This video is great. It's short and to the point and very elegant. I found this channel randomly but I'm really happy I did
I'm glad that I'm not the only one who uses their degree in philosophy to dissect anime and television shows. Your videos are brilliant mate! I keep coming back for more and more, I can't stop myself lol
Thanks for reminding me about this tear jerker if a story lol. Good analysis of the story overall.
Every video I’ve seen you do is great! Keep it up
This is probably my favorite Anime movie ever. It's weird saying that when it's not a movie that I grew up with, like Spirited Away. But everything this movie says is so universal and so moving and so real... it's just my favorite. Thanks for making a video on it :')
(only hearing the soundtrack gets me emotional)
YAY a new Video!! thanks for the video!
I think the most heartbreaking thing about this film is that it got localized as "A Silent Voice" when the much more accurate and relevant translation of "Koe no Katachi" would be "The Shape of Voice"
One of my favourite films that I try to watch a few times year. You did a good job with the comparison between Ishida and Ueno.
What an amazing video, I really hope you make a come back one day and continue making more thought provoking content
I loved the way you explained Ueno, I never shared her like most viewers but I never could voice my thoughts on her, and you said everything I wanted too lol. Love your videos^^
I've been trying to watch this movie for over a year, but when you uploaded this, I decided to just go ahead and read the manga. I'm very glad I did, so thank you for the push.
It's been a long time since I felt such a connection to a character as I did to Nishimiya Shouko. In fact, I related to her so strongly, that she clarified a quirk of my own that I've wondered about for a long time. I also cannot get angry. I can get frustrated, irritated, or hangry, but where true anger is supposed to manifest it it subverted instead into a deep sadness. I withdraw and wallow, rather than explode and rage. The only person I end up punishing is myself. I rarely even remember what caused the damage in the first place.
I've known it as a flaw, but I've never noticed how connected it was to my image of self-worth, because it happens without my seeming input. This character has made me realize why this happens, and it's for the exact reasons you point out in your video. It's at least good to know the reason, so I appreciate the video. Looking forward to when you inevitably get around to Haibane Renmei.
Forgiveness is reached until you have seen that it is not needed. And you simply just move on with your life. You can decide this anytime. Just make the choice to do so and you will be free. It is not earned or given. You alone decide to move forward.
Excellent video. As always.
I have to say this story is one I can look back on and just cry about. Enjoying a manga drenched in FEELS.
The most relatable anime for me has to be Koe no Katachi. It is my favourite film, period. It feels more personal to me than anything I've ever experienced before, to the point where it felt like a documentation of my own life in a way. I have experienced the some vaguely similar events in my life, such as making mistakes at one point in my life and suddenly being treated as a bully by people who never had an issue with the matter before; having friends all suddenly turn their backs on me and distance themselves from me; coming to hating myself and not being able to forgive myself because of this event; planning to commit suicide by jumping off a bridge but then ultimately not doing so. Though I still struggle with a lot of these mental issues to this day, the film felt like the only thing in existence that truly understands how I feel, even more so than my friends. It's beautiful in its execution and objectively a masterpiece of a film, but what mattered the most to me was what it meant to me. Naoko Yamada captured not just the events of this story well, but especially the emotions it brought along in such an authentic way. These emotions correlated so strongly with how I once felt that I was able to enter back into the times when I felt these same feelings once again. This anime feels less so like just another piece of media I had consumed, and more so like a piece of me put to screen by people I had never even met. I resonated very strongly with the message of self forgiveness and it has helped me a lot in dealing with my mental health. Five watches later and I love the film even more every time. I definitely recommend everyone to go watch it, because it is a truly one of a kind experience.
A really beautiful analysis of this amazing film
You explained it so beautifully!
Ah man, this movie was so good! Thank you for putting it on my radar because it was an amazing watch!
Interesting. As a kid growing up the concept of "forgive and forget" was kind of ingrained into me and has stuck with me ever since. I grew up to be a very empathetic and understanding person, always trying to put myself in the shoes of others. Because of that I never really blame anyone for anything and can't really hate people either. But maybe I'm not really forgiving people this way, but rather justifying or accepting it.
In any case, great video for an amazing movie.
I just went through a pretty tough pseudo break up, so I’ll keep this short and sweet. Even when I’m down your clever words never cease to cheer me up... so thx
I JUST WATCHED THIS FILM LIKE 4 DAYS AGO. Perfect timing love your content
Lovely video, thanks for your work :)
I like your take on this! I like how you labeled off everyone in the situation like who was who in terms of bullying. Who I wish you went into depth about is Kawai because she too has a very big role in terms of bullying in the flim and people like her outside of it.
I feel Kawai could be a very toxic person, not only to others but to herself. She is the 'bystander' when it comes to who was who in the bullying fiasco. She is a toxic character because she takes the blame off of herself and places it on others, thinking her involvement in the issue was very little if nothing at all. Having her as a friend can be very hurtful because she is the type who will victimize herself, or like you said, the type to validate what they had did and never feel actually sorry or wrong because they felt they nothing to feel either of those things. Bystanders are just as horrible as the bully, because they contribute to the harassment of the victim by not doing anything. By Kawai not doing anything when she saw her classmates bully Shouko, she became apart of it.
I really liked the cinematography and the editing in the silent voice movie, I think it really took the content to the next level, once my videos look that good I’ll be satisfied...only 50% satisfied though... Hahahaha, great video btw...yooosh☠️
I love these videoes. I hope you make more.
I still can’t get over the fact that baby boss won
A silent voice is my favourite film period. It touched me and resonated with me in such a way that no piece of media and no person was ever able too and it stopped me from trying to cut my life short. If some random person comes across my comment and feels the same way that i did then make sure you get the support you need, life is worth living. This video was beautiful and reminded me of why i love Koe no Kotatchi so much.
Stay safe everyone. :)
Amazing analysis! Is A Silent Voice anyone else’s favourite anime?
Oooooooh shit, I just found a diamond in the ruff with this channel! These videos are great, you definitely got my sub
... just how on earth are you able to break down a story this finely ;-; nice work!
I am crying watching this video and remembering this anime. It was so good and definitely hit home in a couple of ways with me. :')
Awesome video 😭
This. This was amazing. Thanks.
Great work of art...ps love your voice
Very informative video, thank you 💯👏👏👏
Btw I really liked this breakdown video! Helped me collect my thoughts... Subscribed!! 🙃
Thanks for the recommendation!
I guess I'm one of the people that thinks Your Name and A Silent Voice shouldn't be compared for jsut coming out around the same time. They are two entirely different kinds of movies, hitting different notes, and meant to be seen in different ways. The only points of comparison are the time they came out, the fact that both are highly praised, and that they are both anime movies. But they are completely different tones, different genres, and seek to provide entirely different viewing experiences. It would be like comparing Batman v Superman, and Bad Moms because they came out in the same year and were both live action.
With that out of hte way, I think this was a fantastic video. I'm always happy to see videos talking about A Silent Voice, and I think you did a good job of bringing out n of hte core themes of hte film ^_^
Perfect timing! Just watched the movie today.
I absolutely love this movie. Easily my favorite movie of all time especially for the fact that it's thanks to this movie that I was able to break out of a depressed state.
I had a lot of people and other media helping me get through it beforehand but this is the one that finally taught me how to move on and stop blaming myself for every bad or idiotic thing I did in the past.
This film had such a natural, well-written and well expressed (the way they are animated moving) characterization that is actually scary
So forgiveness isn't an acceptance of the acts? Its an acceptance that the person is truly sorry for their actions in the past. Makes you think about what "I'm sorry" means.
I love channels like nerdwritter1 and every frame a painting and I rediscovered my love for manga and little bit anime a year ago and this is perfect for me
This was BY FAR the most emotionally impact movie I've seen in the last 5 years, if not more. It was a movie that I will recommend to everyone for its nuanced look at bullying, forgiveness and disability. As a person with disability myself Nishimiya's story resonated deeply.
Why you gotta make me cry like this again man... This movie is too beautiful...
Excellent video 👍💯
This movie's so beautiful. This made me want to see it again, thanks~
God damn, why did you have to stop making videos? There is so much trash out there, but your videos are absolute gems. I revisit them from time-to-time over the past few years. I hope you are doing well with your new endeavors in life and thank you for the videos you made.
It´s also about perspective. What hook me up in the first minutes of the film was the focus on Ishida. Normally movies like that turn to be told from the victim´s perspective so that the audience can warm up more easily with the deep theme.
This channel is great
I watched A silent voice just so I could watch this video and I am glad to have watched it. Thanks for a great video
Rewatching these scenes is making me have allergic reactions again. Damn tear ducts. :')
Just found your channel, nice stuff. A Silent Voice is, in my opinion, better than Your Name so I was a bit salty when it went so unnoticed. I do think the manga is much better at conveying the sense of emotion (of course) and it actually made me bawl, twice even. I'm not easily drivin to such extent over stories but this one really hits me that special way. It truly is objectively a masterpiece brilliant and unique art and some of the best character structures I've read.
Shane: A man has to be what he is, Joey. Can't break the mould. I tried it and it didn't work for me.
Joey: We want you, Shane.
Shane: Joey, there's no living with... with a killing. There's no going back from one. Right or wrong, it's a brand. A brand sticks. There's no going back. Now you run on home to your mother, and tell her... tell her everything's all right. And there aren't any more guns in the valley.
I love your content
thank you so much, you just saved my english essay
100th Comment! Keep it up, Miss Philosopher.
Or is that "Ms." Philosopher?
Thanks for the video, I also like your new DP. Was it NyanAFK who did it for you?
This is perfect