I'm from the UK.I attended Children's Shrinners at Vegas.Met Cameron and his dad Gary lovely boy. I filmed on the 1st on Pro-am day he drove it 380 he's a beast.
Excellent breakdown of this video... I learned a lot. When I try to hit the ball hard, I move off the ball too much and I tend to rush the transition, clearly the opposite of Camron. Thank you for sharing
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Finally we can go back to lifting the left heel back again. ALL tour players do this. I love your expression de-weighted, because it shows that you are talking about pressure. Even guys like Rory, who seems to be grounded 100% of the time during the swing lift their left heel a bit before planting it again. I’ve been swinging like this thanks to the guys at AMG, who showed through gears 3D that the left heel relieves pressure early in the backswing and replants again early to have a solid left leg to pivot through. Great analysis! 👍
Thank you -- totally agree. My favorite are guys like this who utilize pressure so effectively yet have minimal lateral motion in their swings -- especially with the longer clubs.
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Good job coverying this, Jeremy. Cameron is a local phenom and I started studying his swing this past year...learning a bit about the swing in doing that. Very enlightening.
What is impressive is he gets into impact position so early in the downswing with his weight shift, pelvic rotation and even torso position, which gives him so much time (relatively) to accelerate the club head. Super flexibility and strength. I love where his right elbow is in relation to the torso throughout but particularly in the downswing (never out of position), with his left arm being flung off the chest and big lag catching up with the 'marker' position of the right arm in the downswing. Thanks for the analysis very useful.
I have never seen lag like this in my life. This is a swing that would be difficult to replicate and could get many amateurs in trouble by trying to replicate it... not because of the positions of the swing, but how he obtains the lag. The lag is obtained by his lower body and hips at the top of the swing. His arms are neutral and just along for the ride. Fascinating swing, but for the average Joe, if you are trying to replicate this, make sure your arms are passive and you let the transition of the lowerbody lead the swing from the top. I am amazed.
Like all long hitters, the club is still finishing the BS while his hips start rotating towards the target. For me, the longer that delay (wind up/elastic stretch/coil - call it whatever), the more potential energy is being pent up to unleash more power. Many of us try to get the club back to the ball and our instinct is the driving force here. I'm trying my best to learn how to delay this transition, which allows for smoother tempo and power. You know the feeling when you get it. I'd love to hear of a drill to get this.
DUDE I loved this, very informal, i loved the drawings, since i am kinda a visual learner, and as well as the talking in the background, not to soft so u cant hear, and not to loud so it wouldn't hurt ur ears, very nice,
I came here because I was really impressed with a wedge swing this guy made at the Sanderson Farms today. Had a hunch he might be a bomber from the way he loads even the touch shots. Wow. I'd be surprised if he doesn't have a couple of wins pretty soon.
His first move is still with the hands down. He is releasing from the top. As the golden bear said you cannot release too soon. He does not lead with or fire his hips. He releases from the top. The hip position throughout and at the end is a consequence or effect, not a cause, along with an incredibly athletic and dynamic movement. If folks watching this think they have to fire their hips to start the move they will screw up and probably end up coming back over the top. That is not what is happening here. Also note the shallowing of the shaft at the top is actually him shallowing or moving his hands down. That is the initial move to start the backswing. Whilst this is great to watch I advise folks go and watch Mike Malaska and the Malaska move videos to better understand what is happening
That is not his first move. His first move is the AGGRESSIVE transition with the lower body, which happens right before the club gets to parallel on his backswing, which immediately forces the club down before his arms start initiating a downward movement towards the golf ball. I have never seen lag like this in my life, but I can assure you that his arms are completely passive in creating the lag. The lag is entirely created with the lowerbody transition. If the arms initiated the lag, the club would start falling towards the golf ball, but his club just drops straight down while remaining parallel. He doesn't release the lag until he is almost at the ball. Anyone who releases early cannot create lag.
@@UTBaller22 No that is not what people like Malaska and Scheinblum are making about hip and arm movement. Their point which I may not have made clear is that what you are seeing in the swing is an effect not a cause. Scheinblum makes this point explicitly, we start the release with the hands from the top, but the effect in the swing is for the hips to move first. If you go and deliberately fire the hips to achieve lag you end up in the wrong position as you come back through the downswing into the ball. I could leave links but just search on Scheinblum and Malaska they have lots of information on that. Malaska is the director of the Global Nicklaus academy and both are highly rated PGA coaches
@@myroseaccount I like Malaska and agree with a lot of his teaching. However, he has some things I disagree with too. This is something that can be tested. I want you to try to keep your hands at the top of your swing while transitioning your weight forward and rotating your hips. It's impossible. Your hands will inevitably drop down towards your shoulder. It's not just a rotation, but feels kind of like a squatting motion. If you do this slowly and don't feel tension in your left butt cheek, you are doing it wrong. Nonetheless, in a previous comment, I said that amateurs should not try to replicate this to create lag because it is not an easy move to replicate and can cause a mirage of problems. However, my point is still valid in which this guy is not leading with pulling his hands down at the top of the swing.
He seems to be stretching all those rubber bands all the way before even making contact. And I like how he throws his arms at the end to add even more power.
Jeremy, great analysis of his swing. Just read Hogan's Five Lessons: Modern Fundamentals of Golf, and as I was watching first part of video, it occurred to me how much his swing follows basic swing Hogan refers to in his book. Your comment at around 5:22 mark regarding Hogan pretty well comfirms my thought. Nice work with the video!
All you need to do is keep the lead side of the pelvis low in transition and then the right side of the pelvis low just before contact. It’s a teeter totter move. Then just make sure you’re right arm is external and the COM is behind you.
What an awesome mini analysis! I personally believe the modern swing with restrictive legs are keeping a lot of us back. It's only natural that we need resistance to push off from. Why on earth are we being told to keep massive flex in trail knee??
@jeremy wells don't you think different camera angles portray differently? For instance 2:02 in the left screen it looks like that the downswing and all the power are initiated from the right side whereas in the face on video it looks like the left thigh and lower leg are rotating first.
Wisdom in Golf has been teaching this dynamic out-of-the-box swing for 25 years. It goes completely against the modern teaching methodologies. It uses hip rotation as a means to complete the backswing and trigger the downswing - notice how Champ's downswing is triggered by a move to "find the ground" another huge WIG methodology. The move to find the ground unleashes a powerful uncorking of the initial gathering (backswing). The movement is completely natural and free of restriction. Notice the way the elbow is able to stay cocked until the very last moment as the upper body gets out of the way - this is a product, a natural product of using the ground to initiate the downswing. Watch his left leg go get the ground which causes the dip (the need to coalesce the ground's energy) and the foundation for stress-free, easy-as-pie, mythical power.
I'm unfamiliar with WOG but I would argue that everything you just talked about is absolutely modern and currently popular (and correct). Swing theories come and go but one thing is for sure -- the idea of "restricting the hips" is no more!
What Slew is getting at is these tour pros who are tearing their bodies apart hitting it 300 yards have been fed a load of garbage for the past 20-30 years and now you are here saying “this restricted turn is out.” These pros now are and have been taught by people who understand how to make a metal rod go fast but they don’t understand the impact on the human body. Here restrict this but spin this, break your back and tear the cartilage and ligaments in your knees but hey you’ll get 120 mph CHS and 180 BS. Or you could be a researcher of the swing and look at the guys who played the game from 30-90 yrs ago and say, “hey they look nothing like these “pro’s” on tour today.” Once you jump down that rabbit hole you will almost instantly be introduced to WIG and Shawn Clement, who has been teaching this swing for 20+ years and 8-10 yrs on RUclips (for free on RUclips). His audience is massive and his in person lessons, you tube lessons or on line lessons are top notch. Golf is a game of trust and reward. If you swing like Champ you are playing into the WIG method and his coach knows what he is talking about: if you swing like Bubba you are swinging in the WIG method and your coach knows what he is doing because he understands the human brain; the human anatomy and how to make a metal rod go quickly in a circle, while letting the human body move how it is intended. These “PGA Pros” what have been teaching their BS for 20 years are now all backing off their teachings because they don’t want to be sued for teaching an individual how to hurt themselves. But hey if it means changes to the modern day golf instruction I’m all for it. If you haven’t check out Shawn. If you check him out give it more than 2 lessons at the range. If you have the opportunity go see him or contact him.
@@psilver063 The proof is in the pudding as far as I'm concerned, I've had so many "ah-ha" moments with Shawn Clements which created lasting improvement, and enabled me to move further into this free-flowing methodology, naturally. I'm 54, I have Lupus, which has reeked havoc on my body, and my golf game has never been better or more consistent (when I'm not a specific medication which causes considerable weight gain), I'm shooting 2 over par every 9 holes and if i could putt with any consistency I'd be aropund par every time. Golf is fun thanks to Shawn Clements. And I learn new things every day because of his great teching.
@@psilver063 Thanks for your comment about Shawn -- been checking his stuff out and it's great. Looks like he was one of the first to the RUclips game a decade ago and he does a great job!
@alex vwenz I see no benefit to keeping the trail leg braced/flexed throughout the swing -- especially for the non-elite athlete. Not only does keeping trail leg bent limit hip turn in backswing, but it also makes it very difficult for your pelvis to tilt properly. Your pelvis will typically stay too level and lead to a handful of new issues as the swing progresses. It sounds like you learned this through trial and error -- always a valuable teacher!
This can basically be summed up in one word. LAG. His Flexibility allows for the club to hang back until the last second when the entire kinetic chain pulls it thru. Lag.
Lag, yes. However, it is not his flexibility that creates that lag. It certainly helps though. It's his transition from the top, which can be created without too much flexibility. Rory McIlroy (as he has quoted that he can rotate well beyond 90 degrees and has to be careful about over rotation on his backswing) is probably the most flexible player on tour, but doesn't create anywhere near the lag as Cameron. His lag is created by the aggressive lowerbody shift at the top of the swing. He actually initiates the shift right before his club gets to parallel, which creates even more lag and gives that slight pause effect at the top of the swing.
Total response to rapidness of hip turn. His arms aren't doing a thing. Trust me!
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Now that's a kinetic chain. look how those hands and arms are the final cracking of the whip. I notice he's on his lead foot forward. is he pushing his lead hip back and out of the way with that foot?
You're right on the money with the kinetic chain. It's amazing how much he can stretch each section from the next. It looks like he gets his pressure into his left foot very early on. From there he is pushing up out of the ground as he completes his rotation heading into impact. Notice how his front foot "de-weights" for a 2nd time right before impact --- a trait we see in the players with the most "vertical force"
Great Analysis. I found it interesting how his club shaft was pointing way outside of the ball (like Hogan), but the next frame, it was not, but the club head had hardly moved at all, while the hands really moved down.
Nice analysis, but I think you missed one of the more distinctive moves, which is the internal to external shoulder rotation in transition. Looks to account for the big shallowing move
Imagine you are arm wrestling. Internal rotation would happen if you are winning. External rotation would happen if you're losing. In golf, the goal is to be moving towards external rotation in transition and the early downswing. In this video, Champ does that better than anyone.
@@jeremywellsgolf1760 and as a former tournament tennis player, this is the exact move that all top tennis players do on their forehand - and as someone who also taught tennis and just observed a lot of tennis, it's something that you really can't teach to older players who never learned to swing as fast as possible as a child because their stroke is completely different built on timing that never creates an externally rotated shoulder - and thus they don't, and can never have that power. Just found your channel when I decided to look up Cameron - nice job on the video.
@@wallstreetoneil Excellent insight! As a teaching pro in South Florida, I get a ton of senior players. I completely agree about learning to swing hard at a young age. It's a tremendous challenge to learn later on.
I think for amateur golfers- the most missed thing in this video is that he addresses the ball off the heel of the club. This promotes a shallowing move to hit the ball from the inside.
Jeremy Wells Golf Great! I’m just plugging away. Always a work in progress. I spent years looking and looking and nothing worked until I started the Hogan work. Maybe sometime we could do a video chat on my channel about your approach to the swing?
One of the things that really confuses me about swings like this that make it to the highest level on tour is the amount of lag retention he has in his swing at impact. I think of DJ and how he uses his rotation to square up the clubface yet he also uses his body but without being an incredibly "closed face" player. I do have one question that I would like addressed... What was his angle of attack with the driver? I have a similar swing to Cameron Champ, minus that amount of shallowing which I been working on and that high of speed (im around 120-122 tops). I am playing at scratch, but for a scratch player I have a common tendency to top my 3woods off the deck and my Driver lacked accuracy this year yet im not really steep either. My iron game carries me. A very restricting issue when I am playing with higher level D1 players who do not have those problems, and neither should I. How does Cameron Champ get himself to match up that move? I would think he would be creating excess axis tilt to negate all the lag he creates but damn the whole thing is confusing because he is hitting the ball really well. Because his "release" seems to occur well past impact and I dont understand how he hits the ball so well if his bottom out point would appear to be a little late? A reply would actually be appreciated because this is some insight id love an opinion on its just interesting
Hi James -- thanks very much for your comment. I'll start from the top. DJ is interesting because he doesn't have much "lag" yet he hits it way farther than most. He employs ulnar deviation in his wrists throughout the entire downswing. Hard for him to store a bunch of lag due to his extremely flexed left wrist. When I think of "lag," I think of guys like Sergio and Champ. Champ seems to employ a negative attack angle on his drives. I'm sure he feels like he controls the ball better this way and he absolutely can afford to sacrifice a few yards due to his crazy speed. That being said, he still works his upper-body away from the target on the downswing -- especially the late downswing -- as do most great drivers of the golf ball. This tilting helps him to not hit too far down. It's absolutely not a bad thing to do with driver. As for your issues, it's tricky to tell much without seeing a swing. I know you mentioned you don't shallow the club like Champ -- no one does. Is your club shallow in early downswing? Where does butt end of club point when your arms are parallel to ground in downswing? If it points inside of the ball, you're going to have to compensate with some sort of early extension/secondary tilt. Same thing if your lead arm is too far away from you. At your speed, timing any compensations/manipulation late in the downswing can be really hard.
@@jeremywellsgolf1760 Not necessarily, it depends who you ask, I suppose. Just think it's interesting how all the power hitters do this but lots of "traditional" instruction says get into your heel, blah blah.
Try what? I wouldn't expect to swing it 130 or to create the separation of body segments you see here. I believe there are elements of this swing and all the other great ones out there that we can all learn from and use within our own limitations.
I still don’t h set stand why the “X factor” “restricted him turn” was touted for so many years. Champ is like Sadlowski and Bubba with that lovely free hip turn and they are pound for pound extremely long of course.
Jeremy, considering your experience working with older golfers, who ALL want to hit it farther, what technique changes have you found to be most productive? Cheers!
Complete your turn on backswing. Add some hip turn to backswing. Get hands high. Dive deeper into mechanics to make sure your swing isn't giving you a reason to slow your body down as you head into impact (steep shaft, open clubface, improper sequencing, etc).
@@jeremywellsgolf1760 The delay in transitioning the club's direction at the top while his hip starts turning, to me, is the key to that power. Do you have any drills in the gym or on the range to achieve this two-stretch as Jack calls it? Bryson, Kyle etc are both doing it.
Rumor has it his fairway finder is a low fade that launches at about 3 degrees and carries around 300 yards. The swings in this video were launching at 9 degrees and carrying way farther. I would guess he has a fade bias but I'm not sure.
It’s been proven that hips have very little to do with swing speed. Long drive hitters have cleared well over 300 yards while on their knees (taking the hips completely out of it). It’s arms and upper body strength and speed. Former long drive champions have said that they’re just trying to drive those arms in front of their body as fast as they can (anti stuck maneuver to actually restrict the hips) rather than spin out of it and get stuck behind the hips.
A couple of thoughts: If he turned his hips less (say none), are you saying he would still swing just as hard? How much speed would he lose? If a golfer hits from his/her knees, who's to say he/she isn't using hip rotation? Finally, check out Jamie Sadlowski's swing and keep an eye on what his legs are doing.
I know its hard to fully digest the dynamics of a proper golf swing, but joe his hips are EVERYTHING! The massive coil his hips are creating is so obvious dude. His arms are doing NOTHING once he gets to the top. They're going along got the ride.
WOW, what a swing! Generating that amount of torque within his joints will be putting an enormous stress on the joints and connective tissue, I doubt that it will be long before he needs reconstructive surgery. I give him less than 5 years. It's a close call whether it will be his knees, hips, spine or elbows, but my money is on his ankles!!
Bandit Baker nonsense... you know his body and physique? This Guy is in the gym and under guidance for quite some years now. They know exactly what is weak points are, and where he had to improve. It is so opportunistic to call out that he will be injured.
I hope that I am wrong and I hope that he remains injury free. However Tiger Woods, Jason Day and Henrik Stenson and many others were all benefiting from "guidance" in the gym and they have each succumbed to serious stress related injuries. 5 years may have been too pessimistic, however given the torque that he is generating through his joints I will be surprised if he escapes serious stress related injury beyond 10 years. (Time will tell).
Nice swing, how many wins or close wins. Bryson now is in this class of numbers, except with a US Open and another win and top 5's. I like the Champ swing better than Bryson's. It's that Bryson knows how to use his swing. Swing speed must not be everything. Rory feels his need for extra speed has affected his golf swing negatively. He said this after he missed the cut at the 2021 Players Tournament.
I hope so too. It seems like most of these younger guys are taking really good care of themselves from a conditioning and nutritional standpoint. It would be cool to see injury comparisons between current players and more old-school guys. Also, I'm not sure young players care so much about playing forever. They are making a lot of money in a quick amount of time.
@@jeremywellsgolf1760 😁👊 I guess so. It's fascinating how the games is changing. What I believe is long driving technique will pour onto the tour. Sadlowski is right in saying that it's a game of accuracy and not distance. But I remember i read a quote by some colleague golf trainer in US (I'm from sweden) ..."hit as far as you can and then we figure out hitting it straight". Boom 😁
Greg Norman used to preach exactly the same thing back in the 1980s for teaching juniors - first just learn to hit it as hard as you can, then we'll figure out the rest
I think a lot of this as to do with clubs tech and not just swing... if the clubs didn't forgive as much as they do now a tons of players without a great swing and talent wouldn't be able to enter the pga tour, now you're starting to see young players who doesn't care they just try to bomb hit as far as they can and train the pitching wedge greatly etc because thats how north america golf is played now with courses setup... but if you go to europe with some older course and twist where you have to work the ball both way theses type of golfer became useless
Technology in a driver doesn’t improve club head speed and ball speed that much. You can argue he hits hit as far as he does because of technique, but even Dustin Johnson uses the same technology and doesn’t swing the club as easily as champ.
I believe certain pieces of this swing (hip turn on backswing, centered-ness, sequencing, upper-body-staying-back in transition) are extremely teachable and helpful to most any golfer. Should we all expect this to make us swing it 129 mph AND to control the ball well enough to be world class? Of course not.
No doubt, I wasn't expecting those results, you still have to make the athletic move, it just seems like a fairly attainable move if you have the flexibility pull it off and thought I was missing something. There are some swings I see out there that are just so unique to the player I just know they'd be tough to come close to mimicking.
This swing is a thing of beauty. And perfectly explained, thanks for sharing.
I'm from the UK.I attended Children's Shrinners at Vegas.Met Cameron and his dad Gary lovely boy. I filmed on the 1st on Pro-am day he drove it 380 he's a beast.
Excellent breakdown of this video... I learned a lot. When I try to hit the ball hard, I move off the ball too much and I tend to rush the transition, clearly the opposite of Camron. Thank you for sharing
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Finally we can go back to lifting the left heel back again. ALL tour players do this.
I love your expression de-weighted, because it shows that you are talking about pressure.
Even guys like Rory, who seems to be grounded 100% of the time during the swing lift their left heel a bit before planting it again.
I’ve been swinging like this thanks to the guys at AMG, who showed through gears 3D that the left heel relieves pressure early in the backswing and replants again early to have a solid left leg to pivot through.
Great analysis! 👍
Thank you -- totally agree. My favorite are guys like this who utilize pressure so effectively yet have minimal lateral motion in their swings -- especially with the longer clubs.
Great analysis, his first move down from the top of the backswing is poetry in motion, he has a bright future ahead of him
i’m just short of 270 average now on the range with top tracer thanks to you and this video analysis,and it’s getting longer every time@ 52 years old FORE! 🏌️♂️
Good job coverying this, Jeremy. Cameron is a local phenom and I started studying his swing this past year...learning a bit about the swing in doing that. Very enlightening.
mustangsandwich: Can this swing be taught?
What is impressive is he gets into impact position so early in the downswing with his weight shift, pelvic rotation and even torso position, which gives him so much time (relatively) to accelerate the club head. Super flexibility and strength. I love where his right elbow is in relation to the torso throughout but particularly in the downswing (never out of position), with his left arm being flung off the chest and big lag catching up with the 'marker' position of the right arm in the downswing. Thanks for the analysis very useful.
So impressive and amazing.teach me to forget timing and just commit and stay stable move as fast as possible from the top.
I have never seen lag like this in my life. This is a swing that would be difficult to replicate and could get many amateurs in trouble by trying to replicate it... not because of the positions of the swing, but how he obtains the lag. The lag is obtained by his lower body and hips at the top of the swing. His arms are neutral and just along for the ride. Fascinating swing, but for the average Joe, if you are trying to replicate this, make sure your arms are passive and you let the transition of the lowerbody lead the swing from the top. I am amazed.
Like all long hitters, the club is still finishing the BS while his hips start rotating towards the target. For me, the longer that delay (wind up/elastic stretch/coil - call it whatever), the more potential energy is being pent up to unleash more power.
Many of us try to get the club back to the ball and our instinct is the driving force here. I'm trying my best to learn how to delay this transition, which allows for smoother tempo and power. You know the feeling when you get it. I'd love to hear of a drill to get this.
Right elbow and chest lowering movement is very significant for power. Like to see the analysis next time. 😁
I agree - “the shallowing of club at the top is a dynamic response to turning of the torso.”
Any way either of you can go a little more into depth about what you mean? I’m trying to understand the move
DUDE I loved this, very informal, i loved the drawings, since i am kinda a visual learner, and as well as the talking in the background, not to soft so u cant hear, and not to loud so it wouldn't hurt ur ears, very nice,
Haha thank you. Glad you enjoyed!!
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Really enjoy your swing break down videos. Helps a lot. Thank you.
I came here because I was really impressed with a wedge swing this guy made at the Sanderson Farms today. Had a hunch he might be a bomber from the way he loads even the touch shots. Wow. I'd be surprised if he doesn't have a couple of wins pretty soon.
I completely agree. He's not the only player coming up who's swinging this fast either!
The game is changing as you said!
What's scary isn't the club head speed so much as he looks efortless as he's doing it.
I’d be surprised if he didn’t have a couple of slipped discs soon!
His first move is still with the hands down. He is releasing from the top. As the golden bear said you cannot release too soon.
He does not lead with or fire his hips. He releases from the top. The hip position throughout and at the end is a consequence or effect, not a cause, along with an incredibly athletic and dynamic movement.
If folks watching this think they have to fire their hips to start the move they will screw up and probably end up coming back over the top. That is not what is happening here. Also note the shallowing of the shaft at the top is actually him shallowing or moving his hands down. That is the initial move to start the backswing.
Whilst this is great to watch I advise folks go and watch Mike Malaska and the Malaska move videos to better understand what is happening
That is not his first move. His first move is the AGGRESSIVE transition with the lower body, which happens right before the club gets to parallel on his backswing, which immediately forces the club down before his arms start initiating a downward movement towards the golf ball. I have never seen lag like this in my life, but I can assure you that his arms are completely passive in creating the lag. The lag is entirely created with the lowerbody transition. If the arms initiated the lag, the club would start falling towards the golf ball, but his club just drops straight down while remaining parallel. He doesn't release the lag until he is almost at the ball. Anyone who releases early cannot create lag.
@@UTBaller22 No that is not what people like Malaska and Scheinblum are making about hip and arm movement. Their point which I may not have made clear is that what you are seeing in the swing is an effect not a cause.
Scheinblum makes this point explicitly, we start the release with the hands from the top, but the effect in the swing is for the hips to move first. If you go and deliberately fire the hips to achieve lag you end up in the wrong position as you come back through the downswing into the ball.
I could leave links but just search on Scheinblum and Malaska they have lots of information on that. Malaska is the director of the Global Nicklaus academy and both are highly rated PGA coaches
@@myroseaccount I like Malaska and agree with a lot of his teaching. However, he has some things I disagree with too. This is something that can be tested. I want you to try to keep your hands at the top of your swing while transitioning your weight forward and rotating your hips. It's impossible. Your hands will inevitably drop down towards your shoulder. It's not just a rotation, but feels kind of like a squatting motion. If you do this slowly and don't feel tension in your left butt cheek, you are doing it wrong. Nonetheless, in a previous comment, I said that amateurs should not try to replicate this to create lag because it is not an easy move to replicate and can cause a mirage of problems. However, my point is still valid in which this guy is not leading with pulling his hands down at the top of the swing.
@@myroseaccount In this video, he talks about the lower body initializing the downswing. ruclips.net/video/Rk5Q10IoRjc/видео.html
I keep coming to this analysis. Going to the range
He seems to be stretching all those rubber bands all the way before even making contact. And I like how he throws his arms at the end to add even more power.
His belt knuckel is outta gas 🤣🤣 at 3.23... Great analysis by the way😍
Great video Jeremy.
Jeremy, great analysis of his swing. Just read Hogan's Five Lessons: Modern Fundamentals of Golf, and as I was watching first part of video, it occurred to me how much his swing follows basic swing Hogan refers to in his book. Your comment at around 5:22 mark regarding Hogan pretty well comfirms my thought. Nice work with the video!
All you need to do is keep the lead side of the pelvis low in transition and then the right side of the pelvis low just before contact.
It’s a teeter totter move.
Then just make sure you’re right arm is external and the COM is behind you.
Kid is exciting. Fast twitch muscle meets technique!
What an awesome mini analysis! I personally believe the modern swing with restrictive legs are keeping a lot of us back. It's only natural that we need resistance to push off from. Why on earth are we being told to keep massive flex in trail knee??
Great analysis!
I've watched every Champ video a hundred times. Unbelievable swing, like he's swinging a towel around his body. Wish he could keep it in the fairway.
Fairways are not wide enough for that much speed. Needs to do a Tiger and hit 3 woods and 2 irons
@jeremy wells don't you think different camera angles portray differently? For instance 2:02 in the left screen it looks like that the downswing and all the power are initiated from the right side whereas in the face on video it looks like the left thigh and lower leg are rotating first.
Wisdom in Golf has been teaching this dynamic out-of-the-box swing for 25 years. It goes completely against the modern teaching methodologies. It uses hip rotation as a means to complete the backswing and trigger the downswing - notice how Champ's downswing is triggered by a move to "find the ground" another huge WIG methodology. The move to find the ground unleashes a powerful uncorking of the initial gathering (backswing). The movement is completely natural and free of restriction. Notice the way the elbow is able to stay cocked until the very last moment as the upper body gets out of the way - this is a product, a natural product of using the ground to initiate the downswing. Watch his left leg go get the ground which causes the dip (the need to coalesce the ground's energy) and the foundation for stress-free, easy-as-pie, mythical power.
I'm unfamiliar with WOG but I would argue that everything you just talked about is absolutely modern and currently popular (and correct). Swing theories come and go but one thing is for sure -- the idea of "restricting the hips" is no more!
What Slew is getting at is these tour pros who are tearing their bodies apart hitting it 300 yards have been fed a load of garbage for the past 20-30 years and now you are here saying “this restricted turn is out.” These pros now are and have been taught by people who understand how to make a metal rod go fast but they don’t understand the impact on the human body. Here restrict this but spin this, break your back and tear the cartilage and ligaments in your knees but hey you’ll get 120 mph CHS and 180 BS. Or you could be a researcher of the swing and look at the guys who played the game from 30-90 yrs ago and say, “hey they look nothing like these “pro’s” on tour today.”
Once you jump down that rabbit hole you will almost instantly be introduced to WIG and Shawn Clement, who has been teaching this swing for 20+ years and 8-10 yrs on RUclips (for free on RUclips). His audience is massive and his in person lessons, you tube lessons or on line lessons are top notch. Golf is a game of trust and reward. If you swing like Champ you are playing into the WIG method and his coach knows what he is talking about: if you swing like Bubba you are swinging in the WIG method and your coach knows what he is doing because he understands the human brain; the human anatomy and how to make a metal rod go quickly in a circle, while letting the human body move how it is intended.
These “PGA Pros” what have been teaching their BS for 20 years are now all backing off their teachings because they don’t want to be sued for teaching an individual how to hurt themselves. But hey if it means changes to the modern day golf instruction I’m all for it.
If you haven’t check out Shawn. If you check him out give it more than 2 lessons at the range. If you have the opportunity go see him or contact him.
@@psilver063 The proof is in the pudding as far as I'm concerned, I've had so many "ah-ha" moments with Shawn Clements which created lasting improvement, and enabled me to move further into this free-flowing methodology, naturally. I'm 54, I have Lupus, which has reeked havoc on my body, and my golf game has never been better or more consistent (when I'm not a specific medication which causes considerable weight gain), I'm shooting 2 over par every 9 holes and if i could putt with any consistency I'd be aropund par every time. Golf is fun thanks to Shawn Clements. And I learn new things every day because of his great teching.
@@psilver063 Thanks for your comment about Shawn -- been checking his stuff out and it's great. Looks like he was one of the first to the RUclips game a decade ago and he does a great job!
@alex vwenz I see no benefit to keeping the trail leg braced/flexed throughout the swing -- especially for the non-elite athlete. Not only does keeping trail leg bent limit hip turn in backswing, but it also makes it very difficult for your pelvis to tilt properly. Your pelvis will typically stay too level and lead to a handful of new issues as the swing progresses. It sounds like you learned this through trial and error -- always a valuable teacher!
Wonderful video! Thank you Jeremy.
I WATCHED CAMERON TODAY AT THE SHRINERS IN VEGAS , 556 PAR 5 , DRIVER , THEN WEDGE , BUT 3 PUTTED FOR PAR
I was there too!!!!
I filmed the drive..
ruclips.net/video/DAbPkvTLWxg/видео.html
One of us!
And that’s where he has room to grow. Right now he is 100% power and no finesse. That won’t win you a ton of PGA Tour Events
Already has 2 wins :)
He’ll get better! That will be fun to watch!
Please be careful with the comment about his right leg straightening. It isn’t. It is bent and rotated externally towards the camera.
Timing and fast twitch muscles . The lag is incredible!
This can basically be summed up in one word. LAG. His Flexibility allows for the club to hang back until the last second when the entire kinetic chain pulls it thru. Lag.
Lag, yes. However, it is not his flexibility that creates that lag. It certainly helps though. It's his transition from the top, which can be created without too much flexibility. Rory McIlroy (as he has quoted that he can rotate well beyond 90 degrees and has to be careful about over rotation on his backswing) is probably the most flexible player on tour, but doesn't create anywhere near the lag as Cameron. His lag is created by the aggressive lowerbody shift at the top of the swing. He actually initiates the shift right before his club gets to parallel, which creates even more lag and gives that slight pause effect at the top of the swing.
Great assessment, definitely Hoganesque, imho.
Surprised you failed to comment on the right elbow position, amazing how he keeps that elbow out in front.
Total response to rapidness of hip turn. His arms aren't doing a thing. Trust me!
Now that's a kinetic chain. look how those hands and arms are the final cracking of the whip. I notice he's on his lead foot forward. is he pushing his lead hip back and out of the way with that foot?
You're right on the money with the kinetic chain. It's amazing how much he can stretch each section from the next. It looks like he gets his pressure into his left foot very early on. From there he is pushing up out of the ground as he completes his rotation heading into impact. Notice how his front foot "de-weights" for a 2nd time right before impact --- a trait we see in the players with the most "vertical force"
great video, jeremy!
Great analysis. Ty
Great Analysis. I found it interesting how his club shaft was pointing way outside of the ball (like Hogan), but the next frame, it was not, but the club head had hardly moved at all, while the hands really moved down.
Nice analysis, but I think you missed one of the more distinctive moves, which is the internal to external shoulder rotation in transition. Looks to account for the big shallowing move
Spot on. Surprised I didn't talk about that!
What is internal and external rotation of the shoulder?
Imagine you are arm wrestling. Internal rotation would happen if you are winning. External rotation would happen if you're losing. In golf, the goal is to be moving towards external rotation in transition and the early downswing. In this video, Champ does that better than anyone.
@@jeremywellsgolf1760 and as a former tournament tennis player, this is the exact move that all top tennis players do on their forehand - and as someone who also taught tennis and just observed a lot of tennis, it's something that you really can't teach to older players who never learned to swing as fast as possible as a child because their stroke is completely different built on timing that never creates an externally rotated shoulder - and thus they don't, and can never have that power. Just found your channel when I decided to look up Cameron - nice job on the video.
@@wallstreetoneil Excellent insight! As a teaching pro in South Florida, I get a ton of senior players. I completely agree about learning to swing hard at a young age. It's a tremendous challenge to learn later on.
I think for amateur golfers- the most missed thing in this video is that he addresses the ball off the heel of the club. This promotes a shallowing move to hit the ball from the inside.
Do you know any of the workouts pros are using?
I've seen this video twice and still I can't find anything applicable to my game except for humiliation.
bunkerputt shiet. We can all buy some polos and pants that are similar. That’s about all I can see I could do
LOL
🤣😂😅
Impressive, thanks for the video
his flexibility is his swing. All can't that
Bobby Jones had a very similar downswing and release
I was just about the write the same thing. the kinetic whip that he exemplifies is right here in this swing too.
Fantastic Swing
Great stuff, Mr. Wells. Would love to know more about your work. Where are you based?
Thanks -- I'm in Fort Myers, Fl. Played for a few years now teaching away. Yourself? How's the Hogan quest coming?
Jeremy Wells Golf Great! I’m just plugging away. Always a work in progress. I spent years looking and looking and nothing worked until I started the Hogan work. Maybe sometime we could do a video chat on my channel about your approach to the swing?
Good job, thanks for sharing.
One of the things that really confuses me about swings like this that make it to the highest level on tour is the amount of lag retention he has in his swing at impact. I think of DJ and how he uses his rotation to square up the clubface yet he also uses his body but without being an incredibly "closed face" player. I do have one question that I would like addressed... What was his angle of attack with the driver? I have a similar swing to Cameron Champ, minus that amount of shallowing which I been working on and that high of speed (im around 120-122 tops). I am playing at scratch, but for a scratch player I have a common tendency to top my 3woods off the deck and my Driver lacked accuracy this year yet im not really steep either. My iron game carries me. A very restricting issue when I am playing with higher level D1 players who do not have those problems, and neither should I. How does Cameron Champ get himself to match up that move? I would think he would be creating excess axis tilt to negate all the lag he creates but damn the whole thing is confusing because he is hitting the ball really well. Because his "release" seems to occur well past impact and I dont understand how he hits the ball so well if his bottom out point would appear to be a little late? A reply would actually be appreciated because this is some insight id love an opinion on
its just interesting
Hi James -- thanks very much for your comment. I'll start from the top. DJ is interesting because he doesn't have much "lag" yet he hits it way farther than most. He employs ulnar deviation in his wrists throughout the entire downswing. Hard for him to store a bunch of lag due to his extremely flexed left wrist. When I think of "lag," I think of guys like Sergio and Champ. Champ seems to employ a negative attack angle on his drives. I'm sure he feels like he controls the ball better this way and he absolutely can afford to sacrifice a few yards due to his crazy speed. That being said, he still works his upper-body away from the target on the downswing -- especially the late downswing -- as do most great drivers of the golf ball. This tilting helps him to not hit too far down. It's absolutely not a bad thing to do with driver. As for your issues, it's tricky to tell much without seeing a swing. I know you mentioned you don't shallow the club like Champ -- no one does. Is your club shallow in early downswing? Where does butt end of club point when your arms are parallel to ground in downswing? If it points inside of the ball, you're going to have to compensate with some sort of early extension/secondary tilt. Same thing if your lead arm is too far away from you. At your speed, timing any compensations/manipulation late in the downswing can be really hard.
Love this swing...
Simply the beast and the DJ killer.
secret to his swing is the flexibility and that right elbow
지렷다. .
Look at his shoulder turn u will know he's hitting booms!
On his toes through impact
Is that supposed to be a bad thing?
@@jeremywellsgolf1760 Not necessarily, it depends who you ask, I suppose. Just think it's interesting how all the power hitters do this but lots of "traditional" instruction says get into your heel, blah blah.
@@aleksilepisto7282 Getting onto your toes, from what I've been told in power going against the body which robs you of speed.
@@golfshoe9321 that’s what they say in magazine instruction but notice all the long hitters do it. Because they’re jumping through impact.
Narrow hipped incredibly athletic, but I wouldn't want try that at 50+, would you?
Try what? I wouldn't expect to swing it 130 or to create the separation of body segments you see here. I believe there are elements of this swing and all the other great ones out there that we can all learn from and use within our own limitations.
Crippled at 30
I still don’t h set stand why the “X factor” “restricted him turn” was touted for so many years. Champ is like Sadlowski and Bubba with that lovely free hip turn and they are pound for pound extremely long of course.
Jeremy, considering your experience working with older golfers, who ALL want to hit it farther, what technique changes have you found to be most productive? Cheers!
Complete your turn on backswing. Add some hip turn to backswing. Get hands high. Dive deeper into mechanics to make sure your swing isn't giving you a reason to slow your body down as you head into impact (steep shaft, open clubface, improper sequencing, etc).
@@jeremywellsgolf1760 The delay in transitioning the club's direction at the top while his hip starts turning, to me, is the key to that power. Do you have any drills in the gym or on the range to achieve this two-stretch as Jack calls it? Bryson, Kyle etc are both doing it.
Hey Jeremy, what kind flight do we think that's producing? Lowish fade? Thanks
Rumor has it his fairway finder is a low fade that launches at about 3 degrees and carries around 300 yards. The swings in this video were launching at 9 degrees and carrying way farther. I would guess he has a fade bias but I'm not sure.
Jeremy Wells Golf awesome thanks for the info! 300 yard fairway finding fade is quite the weapon!
Why does he hit low bullets? Doesn’t seem like he’s super ‘on top’ of the ball and doesn’t have a big shaft lean at address or impact?
Well-delayed whip (pivot + hands)!
It’s been proven that hips have very little to do with swing speed. Long drive hitters have cleared well over 300 yards while on their knees (taking the hips completely out of it). It’s arms and upper body strength and speed. Former long drive champions have said that they’re just trying to drive those arms in front of their body as fast as they can (anti stuck maneuver to actually restrict the hips) rather than spin out of it and get stuck behind the hips.
A couple of thoughts: If he turned his hips less (say none), are you saying he would still swing just as hard? How much speed would he lose? If a golfer hits from his/her knees, who's to say he/she isn't using hip rotation? Finally, check out Jamie Sadlowski's swing and keep an eye on what his legs are doing.
I know its hard to fully digest the dynamics of a proper golf swing, but joe his hips are EVERYTHING! The massive coil his hips are creating is so obvious dude. His arms are doing NOTHING once he gets to the top. They're going along got the ride.
This guy hits a 3 iron 290.. that’s nuts
It's like pulling back a rubber band and letting it go.
great vid....
WOW, what a swing!
Generating that amount of torque within his joints will be putting an enormous stress on the joints and connective tissue, I doubt that it will be long before he needs reconstructive surgery. I give him less than 5 years. It's a close call whether it will be his knees, hips, spine or elbows, but my money is on his ankles!!
Bandit Baker nonsense... you know his body and physique? This Guy is in the gym and under guidance for quite some years now. They know exactly what is weak points are, and where he had to improve. It is so opportunistic to call out that he will be injured.
I hope that I am wrong and I hope that he remains injury free. However Tiger Woods, Jason Day and Henrik Stenson and many others were all benefiting from "guidance" in the gym and they have each succumbed to serious stress related injuries.
5 years may have been too pessimistic, however given the torque that he is generating through his joints I will be surprised if he escapes serious stress related injury beyond 10 years. (Time will tell).
It should be noted that his driver is 44.5 inches.
impressive athleticism and flexibility will be interesting to see how he goes on tour
ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL!!!!🏌️🏌️🏌️
Low spin balls can’t fly very far. The ideal spin for distance has to be between 2500-3000
This is just factually incorrect.
Amazing. Hopefully his back lasts. I suspect as he gets older he’ll need a more sync’d rotation.
His back will be fine because he don't slide and rather clears his hips away.
@@Antoner100 He's already had back issues and had to pull out of 2 tournaments because of it.
Just a great swing and synopsis...
Average Joe doesnt have remotely close the amount of flexibility needed for this.
Indeed.
How could I achieve this flexibility?
Not to mention his head drops about six inches from setup.
The unfortunate thing with champ those are the highs, when he throws his back out and other injuries set in…
You were right about him! ;-)
What a performance by him -- will be fun to watch!
The good thing is, Champ doesn’t swing out of balance unlike Bryson or Watson.
This is what you can do when your body feels like Gumby.
Nice swing, how many wins or close wins. Bryson now is in this class of numbers, except with a US Open and another win and top 5's. I like the Champ swing better than Bryson's. It's that Bryson knows how to use his swing. Swing speed must not be everything. Rory feels his need for extra speed has affected his golf swing negatively. He said this after he missed the cut at the 2021 Players Tournament.
He’s coming out of his shoes at impact
The ball is trying to tear out of it's shell....
Bobby Jones on speed
Imagine if he DID manage to reduce the spin further?
Funny you say that. He has the 5th HIGHEST spin rate so far this year. Still swinging 5 MPH faster than anyone else through 2 events.
Jeremy Wells Golf I remember Tiger hitting 129 early on last season. He never got that ball speed though. Was his smash factor not up to par?
Granite Bay HS!
I hope he's not to maxed out for his body to hold up in the long run ( or short run). Will these young players last till their 40s.
With that free hip turn should be okay. Kinda like Sam Snead.
@@wodenoftheangles3339 More like Bobby Jones
@@SearchBucket2 - yes, I can see that too for sure.
I hope so too. It seems like most of these younger guys are taking really good care of themselves from a conditioning and nutritional standpoint. It would be cool to see injury comparisons between current players and more old-school guys. Also, I'm not sure young players care so much about playing forever. They are making a lot of money in a quick amount of time.
Yep- The back takes a beating
Makes DJ look short
Cameron's swing is just Ben Hogan's swing being performed by a young man.
Lots of similarities with shaft movement in transition and downswing that's for sure!!
No way
looks similar to Sadlowskis swing
Umm to be fair his right leg never fully straightens
Isn't he just pushing that club so far back that the body needs to coil and then unleash the hell out of it.
I'd say there's a little more to it than pushing the club back so far but I totally agree about the "unleash the hell out of it" part!!
@@jeremywellsgolf1760 😁👊 I guess so. It's fascinating how the games is changing. What I believe is long driving technique will pour onto the tour. Sadlowski is right in saying that it's a game of accuracy and not distance. But I remember i read a quote by some colleague golf trainer in US (I'm from sweden) ..."hit as far as you can and then we figure out hitting it straight". Boom 😁
Greg Norman used to preach exactly the same thing back in the 1980s for teaching juniors - first just learn to hit it as hard as you can, then we'll figure out the rest
I think a lot of this as to do with clubs tech and not just swing... if the clubs didn't forgive as much as they do now a tons of players without a great swing and talent wouldn't be able to enter the pga tour, now you're starting to see young players who doesn't care they just try to bomb hit as far as they can and train the pitching wedge greatly etc because thats how north america golf is played now with courses setup...
but if you go to europe with some older course and twist where you have to work the ball both way theses type of golfer became useless
Cloud Strife agreed that's why we got crushed in the Ryder cup
Technology in a driver doesn’t improve club head speed and ball speed that much. You can argue he hits hit as far as he does because of technique, but even Dustin Johnson uses the same technology and doesn’t swing the club as easily as champ.
Rory's is better. His back is going to be broken down with that much rotation. Amazing swing. Hope he proves me wrong.
Amazing numbers. Almost super human?!... However, biomechanically, it looks like a swing that will fast track him to major back and hip issues.
I've gotten this comment/speculation a lot in regards to aggressive/rotational swings. I guess only time will tell..
Freakish flexibility in the abdomen
You think this is a teachable swing or is it like trying to teach someone to jump like Michael Jordan?
I believe certain pieces of this swing (hip turn on backswing, centered-ness, sequencing, upper-body-staying-back in transition) are extremely teachable and helpful to most any golfer. Should we all expect this to make us swing it 129 mph AND to control the ball well enough to be world class? Of course not.
No doubt, I wasn't expecting those results, you still have to make the athletic move, it just seems like a fairly attainable move if you have the flexibility pull it off and thought I was missing something. There are some swings I see out there that are just so unique to the player I just know they'd be tough to come close to mimicking.
Yeah that's what's crazy -- everything he does seems pretty neutral!
Jeremy Wells Golf I know! He’s Completely efficient.
How can I achieve this swing @EagleThree?
Amazing lag.
His back wont withstand it for long using a two plane swing
Are you saying "two plane swings" are worse for backs than "one plane swings"? Why?