I’d consider myself as a price conscious traveler but I think low cost on a long haul flight is something I’d not be willing to do. Thanks for providing this excellent, honest review
@@DapFrIeNd. If I add in baggage and meal for low cost, it will be about the same price as a typical full service for flights that are more than 3 hours. This is my observation.
@@xfirefox_x That’s a different story, I’m not talking about any extras. If I want to get from A to B for as cheap as possible I’ll bring hand luggage, a sandwich and a drink. That all saves me money.
I went to Australia and back for less than €600 with this airline on this route - if all you want is to get from point a to point b then its perfect. It is simply a long haul Ryanair. Thank you scoot for making worldwide travel available for everyone. (Also the same route with other carriers was at least double the price - so not worth it for just some unnecessary luxury extras)
I fly often on Scoot between Singapore and Melbourne, though it's comparatively shorter at 7 to 8 hours. I tend to go for the scoot-in-silence section where the legroom is a bit more generous. During the early days and at quiet times of the year, this option wasn't taken up much, so occasionally I get the whole 3 seats to myself where I can lie flat.
I bets its great on anything up to 6-7h where you can just buy 0,5l of water at the airport after security and shrug off the kiddie-sized-food option. I bet you can eat well for any taste way better after touchdown in either melbourne or singapore anyways. And even if you order takeout to the hotel you'd be better off.
My longest flight with a low cost carrier was with Norwegian between Copenhagen and Los Angeles. As long as you know it is taking 11 hours, you brought your own food purchased at the airport, which is better than the one served or purchased on board, you have your iPad with movies and a book. A similar experience than with a regular airline in Economy especially after the pandemic where many perks are axed.
Yep basically take your own entertainment. And food/drink if allowed. Though better make sure all your devices (e.g. laptop/tablet/smartphone/headphones/ebook reader) are fully charged if they don’t provide power sockets, and maybe bring portable battery pack/charger for smartphone and other smaller devices. And I guess you need to be smart with the food too (convenient packaging, not smelly/messy etc). As for drinks, you’d probably have to buy large drinks after security just before takeoff.
I flew Scoot from Athens to Bali via Singapore in April 2022 for just €340 both ways and couldn’t care less about the lack of the features you get from other long haul airlines. It was just perfect. Love Scoot!
You get a baby crying for hour after hour, or some misbehaved kid arguing and screaming and his parents allow it to continue…..can drive passengers crazy. Just watch some videos about it on RUclips. Yes..silence section is genius. . Hope more airlines get that idea put into effect.
The problem is that the racist check in agent wouldn’t let my 12 year old brother sit there but there was a white woman with her 10 year old daughter sitting in the same section. Weird.
It’s great seeing economy class reviews. My wife and I just completed a twelve hour flight between Nadi, Fiji and Vancouver, Canada. These are the type of flights for which we need truthful reviews. Thanks!
In 2018, we flew Scoot from Manila to Athens via Singapore for less than USD 600 round trip per person. No food, no bags, just seat selection. I'd personally rather fly a full-service airline for that long a flight (especially if I need to bring bags), but if I just need to get from point A to B and I can one-bag the trip, I'd gladly fly them again.
next September I will be flying with Singapore Airline from Frankfurt to Indonesia via Singapore and it costs only for 740 euros withh baggage allowance 30 Kgs. I would never fly with low cost carrier if I had long flight. It is not worth it at all. Only +100 euros and you will enjoy your flight
I made my 8hr flight from Sing to Mel super comfortable by paying a little for an exit row, and then I brought my own food, water and phone with predownloaded entertainment, it was honestly super nice
@@zahras838 for my flight at least they didn't seem to have a problem. I can't speak for every experience though, a different flight might significantly vary.
I am from Singapore and i LOVE this airline - this is my personal advice to everyone - Please just upgrade your seats to reclining sleeping seats (this should be the premier package that comes with a screen and charging port for you.) I do this for all flights exceeding 6 hours. Best of all some flights have screens and charging ports for you on the economy class - but i still always recommend everyone to just upgrade your seat to the reclining ones.
Out of interest, having viewed your vlog, I checked Scoot's price from Berlin to Manila for my upcoming trip at the end of the year. I can fly more cheaply from Edinburgh to Manila with both Qatar and Emirates, and without the additional cost of connecting to Berlin, so this is a no go for me (thank goodness!).
Back in February 2020 (just before Covid hit) my parents and I were on vacation in Indonesia. We were checking flight offers from Berlin (still TXL back then) to Denpasar and were actually considering Scoot for a moment. I watched a trip report on their 787 too, I think it might've even been on this channel. We decided against it eventually, especially because my mom wouldn't agree to spending 12+ hours without entertainment. When we finally went to Indonesia again over Christmas 2022, almost 3 years later, we still decided for full service airlines instead. It's worth the extra money to us xD The longest low cost flight I had so far was on EasyJet from Berlin BER to Sharm El-Sheik in Egypt, around 4 hours of flight time time (+ the return flight obviously). Yea, that was painful enough, I think the longest I'd agree to would be 6 hours
These kind of flights are really meant for students going to/from home or maybe some budget constrained traveller, definitely not for people who can afford to go on holiday to Bali from Berlin with the whole families
I took this flight from Singapore to Berlin (return) in 2019 and paid SGD 545 (or 380€) base fare and I agree with your whole assessment with the exception of in-seat power. Power supply is not a basic necessity and most people bring their power banks so Scoot charging for it seems like fair game as a low-cost carrier. I especially agree with your assessment on the price of water and quality of food. I don't understand why they can't emulate AirAsia's quality. Also, I paid extra for Scoot-in-silence and I can't recommend it enough. Seats had more legroom but more importantly, you were guaranteed no screaming infant in that section of the cabin or unruly child kicking the back of your seat. Certainly helps with anxiety! In that regard, Scoot may be a better option compared to other airlines (especially SQ where their amenities, quality and portion of food in economy class have been declining since the resumption of travel but their prices have increased substantially). Anyway, thank you for providing a fairly balanced review of Scoot's long-haul!
"most people bring their own power banks" That wold explain why there was a power bank fire on a Scoot flight recently, the airline could avoid hazards like this by simply allowing people to use the onboard power supply. Here is the video of the fire: ruclips.net/video/8zfuCd01xEM/видео.html
Scoot delivers what it says it will deliver except that its prepaid meals are not very good. The cabin crew is also aloof. Air Asia gives a similar deal but with delicious meals and friendly cabin crew. They also offer their Premium Flatbed seats which are similar to business class comfort. I look forward to more long haul flights being introduced by Air Asia.
Last year I did a 8 hour budget airline flight on Norse from Berlin to Newark and honestly, it was fine. The movies were free, the plane was brand new, the legroom was fine (certainly no worse than a regular airline). The only thing I had to pay for was a meal, which was $20 (and honestly kinda tasty), but considering the ticket was $289 (!) it was well worth it.
I've flown Scoot Silence twice in Sep 2019 and Sep 2022 on the SIN-SYD route. I expected to pre order food, or pay $$$ on board, a little preparation goes a long way if you fill up a water bottle after security. Compared to my onward journey on BA economy, I have to say the Scoot air cabin staff are way more customer focussed than their counterparts. Nothing is ever a problem. I'd defo recommend Scoot for flying on a budget.
When you flew out of Changi in September were you able to fill up your bottle after clearing security at the boarding gate? Cos i flew Scoot recently and once past the boarding gate checks into the waiting area i had no option to fill up my empty bottle.
@@sfr7916 Distant memory now, but pretty sure I did fill up my water bottle after security. I can't recall being thirsty or having to spend money on a water bottle on board.
i once did a 13.5 hour flight from KL to London on low cost airline (AirAsia), and it was actually one of the most pleasant flights i've ever taken! ( i've flown 225 times).
I'd probably say above 4 hours starts to become a bad experience for me. I flew ryanair for that long with my knees pressed against the seat in front. Really uncomfortable by the end of it. Awesome video btw!
My daughter just did Melbourne to Athens via Singapore on Scoot. Due to a very long layover in Singapore and delays the flight took 31 hours! She said the worst part was waiting 12 hours overnight at Changing airport
that's kinda funny because Singapore has one of the best airport amenities, in fact the worse part about being Singaporean is that we will never be able to enjoy how good our airport is. The other thing is that unlike most countries, you can almost start exploring the city straight away. Marina bay is only an hour away and the moment you leave the station you are already in shopping centers
@@MonsieurArlequinsome people are not like you, they have done a lot of traveling Singapore which is why 12 hours waiting is not for them anymore for singapore. And singapore is super boring and people are rude
My longest flight on a lowcost airline was jinair from clark to seoul and it wasnt all bad. There was *purchasable* food onboard but no plug or entertainment, but i slept through the entire 4 hr flight since it was 2 am 😅
If the price is right, I would fly with Scoot. I would definitely consider upgrading to that Scoot-in-Silence cabin. Extra legroom seats, private cabin and like David mentioned, adjustable headrests. The one on the 787-8 is particularly good. I’m waiting for an opportunity to try it myself. The ground service is where the airline falls down on bad days, so that’s one thing to consider too.
Unfortunately, the catch with these airlines is that upgrading to Silence cabin is often very expensive you'll end up paying almost the same amount you would with flying a regular airline.
My longest non-stop flight on a budget airline for me was when I used to travel often between Kuala Lumpur (KUL), which is just a stone throw away from Singapore, to London on AirAsia. London to KUL normally took about 13 hours 30 minutes, and KUL to London was a bit longer, taking about 14 hours 5 minutes. Coincidentally, I also used to live in Berlin. Until the opening of Brandenburg Airport, Berlin really did not fly to any long-haul destinations simply because of the limitations of Tegel. When services moved to Schönefeld, which would become part of Berlin Brandenburg Airport, things got better. However, the fact that Brandenburg Airport was able to open at all was a small miracle after running into a never-ending list of logistical and financial problems throughout the more than 14 years after construction began to finally open for commercial traffic.
@@j134679 I flew with them (London Stansted to Kuala Lumpur) on an A340-300 back in 2009. It wasn’t too bad. The seat pitch was good and can be reclined because it was a second hand aircraft and they didn’t change the seats. They stopped flying the route in 2012 because of ’high oil prices’.
I think there's another reason why Airasia X to end their flights to London and Paris: 1. Using gas guzzling quadjet A340-300, which is not economically viable for long haul low cost carrier, thus losing much more money. Even the A350 and B787 are far much better than A340 in terms of operational costs. 2. London and Paris are both high yielding markets. Most of business and premium travellers will likely to board with premium full service airlines as they have products such as IFE, reclining seat, meals, amenity kit an etc. So travelling in long haul flights with LCCs would not be comfortable especially if the passengers want to keep hydrated and sleep during the flight.
Great review 😀 I have flown this exact route myself back in 2018 from the old Tegel Airport. And just as you say you get what you pay for and in my opinion Scoot makes this very clear in the booking process. As for the power outlets, just use a power bank 😀 If you are traveling with checked in bags it may actually be worth comparing flights with other non LCC airlines as it may actually cost more or less the same
We flew Scoot from Sydney to Singapore in 2022. Take off was delayed by 2 hours, thank got my husband got 2 sandwiches and Pringle's chips from the airport. We were served "Mum's fried rice", it was not even heated properly and portion is extremely small. I asked for a coffee and water, not knowing it would be served with a tablet to pay AUD $15.00, it was the worst coffee(again not warm enough, and I know airplane coffee tastes bad, but this was worst). We knew we got the tickets for cheap and it was a budget airlines, but man, was it bad. We should've found out more before booking. After reaching Singapore, I told my husband, if he ever booked this airlines, I'm leaving him 😂
If you buy the blanket it makes the trip a lot more bearable to sleep onboard. You also get to keep the blanket, so that you can wash it at home and bring it onboard the next time.
To this day the worst airline I’ve ever flown. I did two round trips between Tokyo and Singapore in 2022 on Scoot, about eight hours long. And both times I had just the most rude crew, and overall a truly unpleasant experience. Plus they really do come down on you for the smallest things. I had a candy bar I was eating from the Changi Airport 7-Eleven that the flight attendant snatched out of my hand because “no food from outside the plane is allowed”. Similarly, they don’t let you wear headphones during taxi, takeoff, and landing, which did not help my anxieties about takeoff/landing at all. Zero stars, I’ll gladly pay more to never deal with them again. Spirit had better service 🤐
I travelled SYD-TXL in 2018 with Scoot. By the time we’d added on meals, seat selection, and luggage (we were moving, so packing light was not an option) it came out pretty much on par with any other airline cost-wise. Service was average (not bad, but not excellent, no surprises) and in general it got the job done. Nothing to complain about other than everything being…average. Main reason I wouldn’t fly with them again is that for the same money long-haul you get an overall better experience, or close enough that paying full-service is worth it just for not being so…average. If short-haul no-frills is all you need though, Scoot will get the job done well enough. Absolutely not “long-haul Ryanair” though, as someone said. Ryanair is built around explicitly screwing you while being *just* good enough at the bare-bones stuff that people can still convince themselves that it’s worth the suffering. All states quite publicly by its owner, who makes no secret as to the contempt he has for his passengers. Scoot, on the other hand, is just an airline trying its best at the budget end and mostly succeeding. I’d rather walk than give one cent to the tossers running Ryanair.
I loved that when you Mentioned Karachi while flying over and shown the beautiful night view of city . Lots of Love from Melbourne Australia. I'm from Islamabad Pakistan but living in Australia now. Also good to see scoot flights experience as I'm flying to Europe by same airline in May with my family. I got unbelievable deal for whole family tickets. Appreciate your effort. ❤️
This plane used to fly to Athens before Dingapore for less than 80€. If you are a tall person, 2 hours was ok flying on Scoot, but 12 could be unfathomable. Also not that good food back then, but it was interesting as an experience.
Did Boston to Paris via Iceland on Play airlines. 5.5 hours plus another 3. Longest narrow body I’ve flown on overseas since I was 4 and flew Lufthansa 707 to Germany ( back when flying was civilized). I’d say it was so good, I’d fly another 10 hours with them. Great legroom and awesome crew and prices on board were very good.
I tried this once on a 9 hour flight from DXB to MNL. I am ok with no food and no entertainment but what killed me was the inability to recline the seats 😢😅
I love flying scoot. I usually bring a big empty bottle at least 1 litre and fill it up airside before boarding. Bring my own food, sandwiches or some bread rolls or even Mcdonalds from singapore airport (again airside). Have a power bank and many movies downloaded on my tablet with my noise cancelling earphones. With all of this for me it is just like a normal flight that costs twice as much. So get organised and put the saved $ to more spending money at your destination!
I’ve flown Scoot a lot last year when I was based in SG for work. The flights to Seoul were definitely challenging (~6 hours) but the shorter ones were totally fine.
I took Scoot on a fifth-freedom flight from Berlin to Athens one year ago, which obviously wasn't such a bad experience compared to the other options you have on this route. But I seriously can't imagine to be onboard their Boeing 787 for 13 hours! So thanks that you sacrificed yourself for me...😂🙌
With LCCs, it always seem a lot less worth it the moment you have to add checked baggage. It's not too far off full carrier which at least provides you with meals during a long haul.
If you have to fly SCOOT stay home and save for a proper vacation! Even in young people the risk of DVTs is unacceptable, especially if you're dehydrated.
I fly business class 90% of the time(if available) but this one time I took scoot from Philippines to Singapore and boy did I feel miserable 😅 I’m also 191cm and 250lbs. I paid to board 1st but was the last to board 😮
@@subwooferbone on scoot you can pay to board 1st. I believe its called “BoardMeFirst” or if you paid for the 1st row. Why wouldn’t you want to be comfy and not deal with the line? Same concept as business class boards 1st. Just my take
I've flown Scoot before. To and fro Langkawi, Da Nang, Hanoi and Bangkok (on their 787), all pretty short hops. They were pretty bearable, it got us from point A to B without much fuss. However beware of delays like one I experienced on the return leg from Bangkok - I've heard of some that can get as long as a day or even cancelled. Scoot is mainly infamous for its delays. I've been lucky enough not to experience that long of a delay - only a couple hours wait. All in all, if you've got enough entertainment and food, fly Scoot if there is no other option. However if there are other options such as Air Asia (anywhere within ASEAN, NOT AIR ASIA X) or Zipair (3 times a week flights to Narita), fly those instead. I seriously can't bear 10-13 hours on a Scoot flight, let alone it being delayed.
Both my flights to and return Chiang Mai last month were delayed, with the return even worse - about 1.5 hours. The flight itself wasn’t too bad, but the delays were really annoying
I was on that same flight last year. But from Singapore to Berlin, before flying back to home. I went to Melbourne as well. Also with Scoot. Been there with Jetsar and Finnair. Overall, still same to me. Long flights are never fun, until you arrive. But also at the same time. Very fond memories. So it did bring me back for sure :D
5 hrs 30 mins from Qatar to Budapest on a basic economy class 3 3 seat plane. Will never do that again lol. I still got a meal, pillow, blanket, and tv, but the legroom is just too small. I once flew using Jetstar from Singapore to Perth but luckily I bought a seat in the first row. I think I could still survive without pillow and blanket, but I need decent space for my legs during long flights.
I flew Scoot (flight no. TR 611) from Singapore to Bangkok one weeks ago. The tray in-front of seat was never cleaned or sanitized, I was seating near the last row and the toilet smell was leaking even though the toilet door was closed. Its a really awful experience
Last year I flew MVD-GRU-MVD with Latam, an airline formed by the amalgamation of the erstwhile excellent Lan Chile and TAM brazil. The bare bones economy without seat choice checked or even carry on for this 488 mile trip was £505. The seat I was allocated at check in was the back row without recline or window. Thankfully, the passenger in front did not see the need to recline on this short hop. That makes Scoot seem rather good value.
Scoot changed my CEB-SIN flight without notice - making it 2 hours earlier. Got to the airpirt and no flight. I was flying CEB-LHR on Luftansa. Amazingly, Scoot blamed Lufthansa for the flight time change. Luckily, I was moved to Singapore Airlines. For LCCs, I'd fly Cebu Pacific instead.
I did this annually ever since the service started, no issue at all, its a sleep all way journey, I did not even ordered meals. Board, read, sleep, wake up, arrive in Berlin. Same as return.
I would say the best thing about scoot is they run flights from Singapore to a lot of smaller cities (at least in Asia) which would otherwise need transferring. I'm more than ok to suffer a bit if flying with them saves me a day. Furthermore, I can always pay a little bit extra for the more spacious seats and all the other services, they are not that expensive given that the ticket itself is cheap.
I’s be fine with a long route like that if it’s just me. I could fly a budget airline like Scoot for as long as I need to. 12, 13 hours? No problem. It’s only if I fly with family or friends that I would feel guilty and pay the extra amount to travel on a legacy for a more comfortable trip for them.
My longest flight on a low-cost-carrier was with Wizzair from Brussels, Belgium to Abu Dhabi, UAE. It was 6 hours and 20 minutes in their a321NX. The price was great and the food tastet suprisingly fine in contrast to Ryanair. You can pre-order meals or buy beverages and snacks at the airport. The cabin was also extremely quiet so it made it rly easy to sleep. It wasn't that bad as I expected. I'd enjoyed the flight even if the legroom was... no comment. It wasn't rly that bad so imma fly low-cost-cariers more frequent now :)
In 1993, I did 13 hours on a Qantas 747-400 from Sydney to LAX and it was the most uncomfortable flight of my life - and I've flown in webbing troop seats on C-130s and in an F-4 and an A-7. (No padding or cushion on ejection seats.) It was like sitting on concrete and we were soon sitting on our jackets just to get a little padding. The call buttons didn't work, so we couldn't get any blankets to sit on, and for two full hours mid-flight (which was in daytime), we never saw any flight attendants even though our seats were close to a galley. For the final hour of the ordeal, there were nearly nonstop announcements about how Qantas had negotiated a quick passage through customs and immigration. We arrived at the same time as three other 747-400s, one each from Singapore, Hong Kong, and Malaysia. It took *forever* to get through customs and immigration as they scrutinised each passenger's passports and visas. After we got home, I wrote to the CEO of Qantas and told him all of the above. I got a *really* snarky reply from some underling or PR hack insisting that they had "nothing to do with the customs and immigration procedures" (despite all of the on-board bragging saying the opposite), that their seats were "new and the best in the industry", and claiming that the number of cabin crew exceeded the legal minimum, making it "impossible" that none were seen for two minutes, let alone two hours. A few months later, one of the industry magazines had an article about how Qantas was replacing all of their seats with "new, very comfortable" models (despite the old ones being "new and the best in the industry") and that the "customer experience" was being "enhanced". I've never been near another Qantas aircraft since and I'll *never* fly on one again. It wasn't just the way they equipped the aircraft (I love the 747) or the level of on-board "service", it was the lies and refusal to admit any possibility a customer could have a valid complaint. In contrast, the earlier flight we took from LA to Auckland was on an Air New Zealand 747-400 and it was one of the best flights I've ever been on. Very comfortable, great and attentive service (even though it was an overnight flight), and a thoroughly enjoyable experience from start to finish. If I ever go to Australia again, I'll fly Air NZ to Auckland and get a connecting flight to Sydney, then return home the same way. **** Qantas.
Last year I got this flight for 230€ in total for both directions. Berlin to Bangkok with a short stay in Singapore. Was fine for the price, but not for more money
We managed to fly on this line from Berlin to Singapore at 2018 on inaugural flight. We paid 400€ for two return tickets in total. An got cupcake, pair of socks and dance from a cabin crew. It was reasonable but I have to agree that the most annoying thing was the water price. For a normal price I wouldn’t book the flight again. Thanks for a video. It brings back the memories.
At Singapore airport you go through security with a empty water bottle there is a bubbler at the boarding lounge to refill your water 💦 bottle before boarding the plane ✈ to Sydney and have a good feed at the terminal at Singapore plenty of food options !
I went on Swoop Airlines Boeing 737-800 from Alberta Canada to Cancun Mexico, it was 5 hours and 30ish minutes, that’s my LONGEST low cost airline flight.
After reading Scoot airline web site and the part about food and drink, i think travellers will be in for a huge surprise, in that it says consumption of food and drink from outside of the flight is not allowed to be eaten or drunk on board, i love to know how the flight crew would in force this rule as i could see many people on board having their own stuff. Strange this wasn't mentioned in this review.
Well what do you expect? He’s an airline reviewer and he’s reviewing this airline so that we would know if it was worth it go to go on a long haul budget flight. Obviously he’s gonna tell us all of the cons of the flight
Wow, unbelievable, I also flew the 9V-OFI last year! I did ATH SIN BKK. I had some downloaded media on my devices, packed some snacks and purchased lunch beforehand in the app. Honestly loved the experience, for 200 usd!
I am planning the same: download videos and bring snacks. However Scoots says on my ticket that no outside food and drinks are allowed on board. When I asked, the agent said that i could bring food if i have document from the doctor about what food i cant/cannot eat.... even then there is no garantee... what the hec... Could you eat your snacks on board?
@@89sn00py yeah, my snacks were an apple and some nuts like almonds and peanuts, so not too noticeable. Also a water bottle refilled after security. I think they probably say that to make you purchase their meals. I dont remember seeing anyone being told off for snacking. But try to make your food discreet just in case
Flown Scoot many times and they've always been reliable. Happy to tough it out and save a few hundred $$$. Use the money you save to stay an extra couple of nights, or to do something special. Bring an empty water bottle (or two) to fill up after security, bring snacks, bring a power bank, and download a few movies/TV shows and it's basically the same as any other flight.
I genuinely think I would be able to handle this lol Before the pandemic, every other Christmas break, my parents would take me to China, since that's where they grew up, and my last visit had been when I was 12 years old. Every single flight I took, I would literally just starve myself for 12 hours straight, since I was and still am a pretty picky eater, and airplane food really just doesn't appeal to me in general. Air China's entertainment system wasn't all that interesting to me either, as it didn't have games, and all the movies were for grown-ups, and I had no headphones. They did provide pillows, except I ALSO have problems with those too, it's that I literally cannot sleep on a warm pillow, and it's why at home, I use a sofa cushion as my pillow since it stays cool for longer. I still tried to sleep though, I would usually just lie down on my mom's lap the next seat over, and close my eyes, except I was never actually able to fall asleep doing that
It's not that bad for Scoot. I took a economy flight from Singapore to Jakarta and the service was great, the food was good and you could even buy a Scoot 'Pikachu Jet' model with the Pokemon livery.
Such a shame about the mediore food. You'd expect better from a Singaporean carrier of all things, even a budget one, especially as Air Asia really do a fantastic job. I've flown on Air Asia and Air Asia X, and their meals have always been fantastic value, and something I actively look forward to when flying with them.
They should at least allow to bring your own bottled water, bought after airport's security. Even though that's pretty expensive, but not as expensive as onboard Scoot.
@@watchhans i've flown scoot many times before, you're definitely allowed to bring water what are you on about? Also the no outside food & drinks rule is not uncommon to asia, Airasia has it as well. Saying that, i dont think i've ever seen them being enforced.
I took this exact route in 2019. Will do it again if the price is right. The cons were that you need to bring at least a serving of food and water to make the price worthwhile. Don't forget to bring your own blanket, pillow, and entertainment. Food, though edible, were not good.
You and a lot of commenters here seem to quite like Scoot for its "no frills for the absolute lowest price" approach. However, what always kept me from flying Scoot is that it rarely turned out to be this incredible deal that some other commenters were lucky enough to get: Looking at a return BER-SIN itinerary for various dates this year, Scoot is always the cheapest with around 700€, but depending on the dates there are usually Turkish or Qatar Airlines flights available for just ~20€ - 100€ more. Even if you don't care about any amenities, this would be worth it just for the checked bag alone. That's why to me it always seems like flying Scoot would only ever be worth it if you are flying one-way or if you need the absolute fastest connection between Berlin/Athens to Singapore.
Im totally convinced that people that choose this airline knowingly, just hate themselves. I wouldn’t even get on a scoot longhaul flight even if you paid me. So thanks for your sacrifice 😂
That’s what we call Taking one for the team. Sacrificing yourself for twelve hours in ultra low cost long haul so we the subscribers don’t have to! You have achieved boss status!
I recently did Sydney/Manila on Cebu/pacific - its is basic - after a four and a half hour wait to check in the plane was even more late leaving. My son said this plane is only built for 330 pax but modified to take 410. I think they had removed some toilets to get more seats in. Only 3 toilets up front were working and had a continious line up and They were filthy (pee on floor etc). the 8 hour flight was absolute torcher. I realise it was a budget flight but this lack of basic hygene is wrong. I paid extra for front row seating but as they changed the aircraft just before we flew they just put us anywhere - I've neveer been able to get a refund of the difference. I could go on a lot more but its useless and I will NEVER fly Cebupacific again.
I always bring my own food, water and warm items, + powerbank, so it would be worth it if i ever want to use their routes. So long as the seats aren't harder than other airlines, i'm good! Actually the option of booking in a silent area is awesome, i haven't seen that before.
For the water, if you ask the staff they will fill up your bottle or give you a cup of water. You don't have to buy, but they only give you a small amount each time.
I have been in one of Scoot's business-class flights from Singapore to Hangzhou a couple of years ago. The service was good, but to my surprise, there was no USB port on the seat while the AC power outlet was offered. So I had to plug in my laptop and then charge my phone with it.
We loved Tegel ......it was soulless and depressing. What better way to depart after super fantastic few days in Berlin.....at least the post holiday depression puts one in the right frame of mind for the near future...
@@ljcbvideo it was a farm house for people. A very very inefficient and terribly ran farm house. An embarrassment to us residents in Berlin. And Germany's efficient engineering reputation.
Power bank + smartphone ready with plenty of movies/series/books + water (after security check) and food (before security check as it's cheaper) bought at the airport is the playbook to fly low cost for more than say, 3 hours.
Great video!! I live on the east coast of Australia (Brisbane) and the nearest International airport is 15 mins from my house, so it's fairly convenient to fly a full service International airline to Asia/Americas/Middle East and beyond. Conversely, we have access to budget airlines mainly flying from the Gold Coast (1.5-2hrs by car). I've often costed out a trip on a full service airline from Brisbane vs a budget airline from the Gold Coast and after the added expense on transport to the airport, luggage, meals etc the full service airline generally wins from a economic (and comfort) perspective. Takeaway points - research all prices and add ons the budget price may not be so budget after all
I’d consider myself as a price conscious traveler but I think low cost on a long haul flight is something I’d not be willing to do.
Thanks for providing this excellent, honest review
Same here. Anything above 3 hours, it is full service carrier for me.
@@xfirefox_x Seems unnecessary, just bring a sandwich worth €5 instead of paying hundred's more for a full service.
@@DapFrIeNd. If I add in baggage and meal for low cost, it will be about the same price as a typical full service for flights that are more than 3 hours. This is my observation.
Flown AirAsia X for 6 hours made a wake-up call for me that even budget-concious traveller like me had to know limit when to go cheap on things
@@xfirefox_x That’s a different story, I’m not talking about any extras. If I want to get from A to B for as cheap as possible I’ll bring hand luggage, a sandwich and a drink. That all saves me money.
Dude literally sacrificed 13 hours for the bros
this made me laugh
Hero.
Doesn't look that bad actually.
W comment 😁
The fact that this comment is 13 hours ago for me is.... wow
I went to Australia and back for less than €600 with this airline on this route - if all you want is to get from point a to point b then its perfect. It is simply a long haul Ryanair. Thank you scoot for making worldwide travel available for everyone. (Also the same route with other carriers was at least double the price - so not worth it for just some unnecessary luxury extras)
I am not considering bottled water as 'luxury' on a 13 hrs. flight.
@@watchhans Bring your own water, you know what you are buying so prepare for it, it's not that hard.
When did you travel?
@@watchhans I think they charge €10 for some simple cup noodles, if you don’t pre order your food online for this route & Athens-Singapore route.
Bring empty water bottle and refill it at the water cooler after clearing immigration may help.
I fly often on Scoot between Singapore and Melbourne, though it's comparatively shorter at 7 to 8 hours. I tend to go for the scoot-in-silence section where the legroom is a bit more generous. During the early days and at quiet times of the year, this option wasn't taken up much, so occasionally I get the whole 3 seats to myself where I can lie flat.
I bets its great on anything up to 6-7h where you can just buy 0,5l of water at the airport after security and shrug off the kiddie-sized-food option. I bet you can eat well for any taste way better after touchdown in either melbourne or singapore anyways. And even if you order takeout to the hotel you'd be better off.
My longest flight with a low cost carrier was with Norwegian between Copenhagen and Los Angeles. As long as you know it is taking 11 hours, you brought your own food purchased at the airport, which is better than the one served or purchased on board, you have your iPad with movies and a book. A similar experience than with a regular airline in Economy especially after the pandemic where many perks are axed.
They prevented me from taking sandwiches with ONIONS on board stating that the cabin would smell and upset other passengers
I also flew LAX-CPH on Norwegian a few years ago. The R/T ticket only set me back $347.00! I had no complaints whatsoever.
I would swallow sleeping pill after take off and wake up just before landing
Yep basically take your own entertainment. And food/drink if allowed.
Though better make sure all your devices (e.g. laptop/tablet/smartphone/headphones/ebook reader) are fully charged if they don’t provide power sockets, and maybe bring portable battery pack/charger for smartphone and other smaller devices.
And I guess you need to be smart with the food too (convenient packaging, not smelly/messy etc).
As for drinks, you’d probably have to buy large drinks after security just before takeoff.
Yes!!! That’s an idea! Bring your own food, iPad, noise canceling headphones and a book ! I may be able to tolerate it.
I flew Scoot from Athens to Bali via Singapore in April 2022 for just €340 both ways and couldn’t care less about the lack of the features you get from other long haul airlines. It was just perfect. Love Scoot!
That’s an insane price
Me too. It was not full and i enjoyed it. Don't love the all blue window tint tho.
agreed!!!
340 both ways??
That sounds great 👍. Uk 🇬🇧 trains have no seats, blocked toilets, no air con... plus weird passengers, so who cares... £340 ... you, very good 👍.
Great review. I love it when vloggers actually fly like the rest of us -- in economy.
That's what i thought. Finally some reviews the pleb-flights ;)
6 hours edit: Scoot silence is GENIUS and every airline needs it +1 point for scoot
Seriously why is this not a thing everywhere??
Yeah, no babies crying, spacious seats at a cheap cost
You get a baby crying for hour after hour, or some misbehaved kid arguing and screaming and his parents allow it to continue…..can drive passengers crazy. Just watch some videos about it on RUclips.
Yes..silence section is genius. . Hope more airlines get that idea put into effect.
The problem is that the racist check in agent wouldn’t let my 12 year old brother sit there but there was a white woman with her 10 year old daughter sitting in the same section. Weird.
LOVING the new intro in the latest Brutally Honest episodes! Fantastic video as usual!
It’s great seeing economy class reviews. My wife and I just completed a twelve hour flight between Nadi, Fiji and Vancouver, Canada. These are the type of flights for which we need truthful reviews. Thanks!
In 2018, we flew Scoot from Manila to Athens via Singapore for less than USD 600 round trip per person. No food, no bags, just seat selection. I'd personally rather fly a full-service airline for that long a flight (especially if I need to bring bags), but if I just need to get from point A to B and I can one-bag the trip, I'd gladly fly them again.
next September I will be flying with Singapore Airline from Frankfurt to Indonesia via Singapore and it costs only for 740 euros withh baggage allowance 30 Kgs. I would never fly with low cost carrier if I had long flight. It is not worth it at all. Only +100 euros and you will enjoy your flight
By far my favourite aviation channel anywhere on the internet. So organised, truthspoken and great quality videos. Huge respect!!
I made my 8hr flight from Sing to Mel super comfortable by paying a little for an exit row, and then I brought my own food, water and phone with predownloaded entertainment, it was honestly super nice
Were they okay with you bringing your own food onboard ?
@@zahras838 for my flight at least they didn't seem to have a problem. I can't speak for every experience though, a different flight might significantly vary.
@@zahras838 As long as you buy food in the tax-free shops it should be okay.
The longest i could take budget airlines for is max 2-3 hours. Respect that you managed to survive for 13 hours
2 hrs, anything above 2 hrs is stretch….my man here created a world record on stretch 😂😂
Toughen up! My daughter just did 31 hours with Scoot including a 12 hour layover in Singapore
I am from Singapore and i LOVE this airline - this is my personal advice to everyone - Please just upgrade your seats to reclining sleeping seats (this should be the premier package that comes with a screen and charging port for you.) I do this for all flights exceeding 6 hours. Best of all some flights have screens and charging ports for you on the economy class - but i still always recommend everyone to just upgrade your seat to the reclining ones.
Out of interest, having viewed your vlog, I checked Scoot's price from Berlin to Manila for my upcoming trip at the end of the year. I can fly more cheaply from Edinburgh to Manila with both Qatar and Emirates, and without the additional cost of connecting to Berlin, so this is a no go for me (thank goodness!).
Back in February 2020 (just before Covid hit) my parents and I were on vacation in Indonesia. We were checking flight offers from Berlin (still TXL back then) to Denpasar and were actually considering Scoot for a moment. I watched a trip report on their 787 too, I think it might've even been on this channel. We decided against it eventually, especially because my mom wouldn't agree to spending 12+ hours without entertainment. When we finally went to Indonesia again over Christmas 2022, almost 3 years later, we still decided for full service airlines instead. It's worth the extra money to us xD
The longest low cost flight I had so far was on EasyJet from Berlin BER to Sharm El-Sheik in Egypt, around 4 hours of flight time time (+ the return flight obviously). Yea, that was painful enough, I think the longest I'd agree to would be 6 hours
Entertainment is not a deal breaker for me. I carry my headphone and iPad. But I just cannot sit in this seat for 12 hours
Wdym no entertainment? If you have a phone you can put whatever you're interested in on it
These kind of flights are really meant for students going to/from home or maybe some budget constrained traveller, definitely not for people who can afford to go on holiday to Bali from Berlin with the whole families
You can literally buy a cheap tablet for the price difference
Wow. I'd fly them short distance only. That looked brutal. Thanks for taking one for the team
Not only is BER to MEL 13 h + 7 h, it is also a 20h layover in Singapore!!
aha, But its Singapore
So get a cheap hotel In Geylang, then get back on the train back to the airport.
That's brutal. 20 hours in one of the most boring cities in Asia
@@TheSuperior100 so which city do you live in, perhaps I should visit it?
@@TheSuperior100 , you lead a sad life if you don’t know Singapore😂
I took this flight from Singapore to Berlin (return) in 2019 and paid SGD 545 (or 380€) base fare and I agree with your whole assessment with the exception of in-seat power. Power supply is not a basic necessity and most people bring their power banks so Scoot charging for it seems like fair game as a low-cost carrier. I especially agree with your assessment on the price of water and quality of food. I don't understand why they can't emulate AirAsia's quality. Also, I paid extra for Scoot-in-silence and I can't recommend it enough. Seats had more legroom but more importantly, you were guaranteed no screaming infant in that section of the cabin or unruly child kicking the back of your seat. Certainly helps with anxiety! In that regard, Scoot may be a better option compared to other airlines (especially SQ where their amenities, quality and portion of food in economy class have been declining since the resumption of travel but their prices have increased substantially). Anyway, thank you for providing a fairly balanced review of Scoot's long-haul!
To me it is not really worth the money saved. We fly to Jakarta at least once a year. Even from Hamburg I usually get a return ticket for 800ish €.
@@henningk.4236from which airline if I may ask?
@@Najdorf_ Turkish Airlines. They also have one of the shortest overall travel times to Indonesia!
Air Asia has quality?
"most people bring their own power banks"
That wold explain why there was a power bank fire on a Scoot flight recently, the airline could avoid hazards like this by simply allowing people to use the onboard power supply. Here is the video of the fire: ruclips.net/video/8zfuCd01xEM/видео.html
Scoot delivers what it says it will deliver except that its prepaid meals are not very good. The cabin crew is also aloof. Air Asia gives a similar deal but with delicious meals and friendly cabin crew. They also offer their Premium Flatbed seats which are similar to business class comfort. I look forward to more long haul flights being introduced by Air Asia.
Last year I did a 8 hour budget airline flight on Norse from Berlin to Newark and honestly, it was fine. The movies were free, the plane was brand new, the legroom was fine (certainly no worse than a regular airline). The only thing I had to pay for was a meal, which was $20 (and honestly kinda tasty), but considering the ticket was $289 (!) it was well worth it.
Norse it’s a such good long haul airline actually. Just like Norwegian that now is only for short haul
I've flown Scoot Silence twice in Sep 2019 and Sep 2022 on the SIN-SYD route. I expected to pre order food, or pay $$$ on board, a little preparation goes a long way if you fill up a water bottle after security. Compared to my onward journey on BA economy, I have to say the Scoot air cabin staff are way more customer focussed than their counterparts. Nothing is ever a problem. I'd defo recommend Scoot for flying on a budget.
When you flew out of Changi in September were you able to fill up your bottle after clearing security at the boarding gate? Cos i flew Scoot recently and once past the boarding gate checks into the waiting area i had no option to fill up my empty bottle.
@@sfr7916 Distant memory now, but pretty sure I did fill up my water bottle after security. I can't recall being thirsty or having to spend money on a water bottle on board.
i once did a 13.5 hour flight from KL to London on low cost airline (AirAsia), and it was actually one of the most pleasant flights i've ever taken! ( i've flown 225 times).
that would've been airasiax ..which is differernt than air asia
@@gilboman same same, muppet.
I'd probably say above 4 hours starts to become a bad experience for me. I flew ryanair for that long with my knees pressed against the seat in front. Really uncomfortable by the end of it. Awesome video btw!
My daughter just did Melbourne to Athens via Singapore on Scoot. Due to a very long layover in Singapore and delays the flight took 31 hours! She said the worst part was waiting 12 hours overnight at Changing airport
that's kinda funny because Singapore has one of the best airport amenities, in fact the worse part about being Singaporean is that we will never be able to enjoy how good our airport is. The other thing is that unlike most countries, you can almost start exploring the city straight away. Marina bay is only an hour away and the moment you leave the station you are already in shopping centers
@@MonsieurArlequin It does. I can tell from experience it's not if you land at 3am completely hungover and tired as fudge though ;)
@@MonsieurArlequinsome people are not like you, they have done a lot of traveling Singapore which is why 12 hours waiting is not for them anymore for singapore. And singapore is super boring and people are rude
Seeing a heavy Dreamliner performing the steep turn just after takeoff in Berlin is just awesome... Great views! :D
Whoever made this video - thank you! You’re so detailed especially with the audio narration. Wish the videos were more like this 🙌🏼
My longest flight on a lowcost airline was jinair from clark to seoul and it wasnt all bad. There was *purchasable* food onboard but no plug or entertainment, but i slept through the entire 4 hr flight since it was 2 am 😅
If the price is right, I would fly with Scoot. I would definitely consider upgrading to that Scoot-in-Silence cabin. Extra legroom seats, private cabin and like David mentioned, adjustable headrests. The one on the 787-8 is particularly good. I’m waiting for an opportunity to try it myself. The ground service is where the airline falls down on bad days, so that’s one thing to consider too.
Supporting scoot just accelerates race to the bottom of other airlines. Respect yourselves people.
Unfortunately, the catch with these airlines is that upgrading to Silence cabin is often very expensive you'll end up paying almost the same amount you would with flying a regular airline.
Do they have super seats on 787 -8 or is it on the 787-9 ?
@@mikhailalsagoff9958 Super seats are offered on both aircraft types.
My longest non-stop flight on a budget airline for me was when I used to travel often between Kuala Lumpur (KUL), which is just a stone throw away from Singapore, to London on AirAsia. London to KUL normally took about 13 hours 30 minutes, and KUL to London was a bit longer, taking about 14 hours 5 minutes. Coincidentally, I also used to live in Berlin. Until the opening of Brandenburg Airport, Berlin really did not fly to any long-haul destinations simply because of the limitations of Tegel. When services moved to Schönefeld, which would become part of Berlin Brandenburg Airport, things got better. However, the fact that Brandenburg Airport was able to open at all was a small miracle after running into a never-ending list of logistical and financial problems throughout the more than 14 years after construction began to finally open for commercial traffic.
AirAsia flies to London? That sounds like a crime wtf
@@j134679 I flew with them (London Stansted to Kuala Lumpur) on an A340-300 back in 2009. It wasn’t too bad. The seat pitch was good and can be reclined because it was a second hand aircraft and they didn’t change the seats. They stopped flying the route in 2012 because of ’high oil prices’.
@@j134679 airasia X, their long haul division
I think there's another reason why Airasia X to end their flights to London and Paris:
1. Using gas guzzling quadjet A340-300, which is not economically viable for long haul low cost carrier, thus losing much more money. Even the A350 and B787 are far much better than A340 in terms of operational costs.
2. London and Paris are both high yielding markets. Most of business and premium travellers will likely to board with premium full service airlines as they have products such as IFE, reclining seat, meals, amenity kit an etc. So travelling in long haul flights with LCCs would not be comfortable especially if the passengers want to keep hydrated and sleep during the flight.
Never had a bad flight experience with Scoot. Between Australia and Singapore. BUT of course it's a lot less shorter than flying with them to Berlin.
Great review 😀 I have flown this exact route myself back in 2018 from the old Tegel Airport. And just as you say you get what you pay for and in my opinion Scoot makes this very clear in the booking process. As for the power outlets, just use a power bank 😀 If you are traveling with checked in bags it may actually be worth comparing flights with other non LCC airlines as it may actually cost more or less the same
We flew Scoot from Sydney to Singapore in 2022. Take off was delayed by 2 hours, thank got my husband got 2 sandwiches and Pringle's chips from the airport. We were served "Mum's fried rice", it was not even heated properly and portion is extremely small. I asked for a coffee and water, not knowing it would be served with a tablet to pay AUD $15.00, it was the worst coffee(again not warm enough, and I know airplane coffee tastes bad, but this was worst). We knew we got the tickets for cheap and it was a budget airlines, but man, was it bad. We should've found out more before booking. After reaching Singapore, I told my husband, if he ever booked this airlines, I'm leaving him 😂
If you buy the blanket it makes the trip a lot more bearable to sleep onboard. You also get to keep the blanket, so that you can wash it at home and bring it onboard the next time.
To this day the worst airline I’ve ever flown. I did two round trips between Tokyo and Singapore in 2022 on Scoot, about eight hours long. And both times I had just the most rude crew, and overall a truly unpleasant experience. Plus they really do come down on you for the smallest things. I had a candy bar I was eating from the Changi Airport 7-Eleven that the flight attendant snatched out of my hand because “no food from outside the plane is allowed”. Similarly, they don’t let you wear headphones during taxi, takeoff, and landing, which did not help my anxieties about takeoff/landing at all. Zero stars, I’ll gladly pay more to never deal with them again. Spirit had better service 🤐
I travelled SYD-TXL in 2018 with Scoot. By the time we’d added on meals, seat selection, and luggage (we were moving, so packing light was not an option) it came out pretty much on par with any other airline cost-wise. Service was average (not bad, but not excellent, no surprises) and in general it got the job done. Nothing to complain about other than everything being…average. Main reason I wouldn’t fly with them again is that for the same money long-haul you get an overall better experience, or close enough that paying full-service is worth it just for not being so…average. If short-haul no-frills is all you need though, Scoot will get the job done well enough.
Absolutely not “long-haul Ryanair” though, as someone said. Ryanair is built around explicitly screwing you while being *just* good enough at the bare-bones stuff that people can still convince themselves that it’s worth the suffering. All states quite publicly by its owner, who makes no secret as to the contempt he has for his passengers. Scoot, on the other hand, is just an airline trying its best at the budget end and mostly succeeding. I’d rather walk than give one cent to the tossers running Ryanair.
I loved that when you Mentioned Karachi while flying over and shown the beautiful night view of city . Lots of Love from Melbourne Australia. I'm from Islamabad Pakistan but living in Australia now. Also good to see scoot flights experience as I'm flying to Europe by same airline in May with my family. I got unbelievable deal for whole family tickets. Appreciate your effort. ❤️
a parcel on a cargo plane gets treated better than a Scoot economy class passenger
This plane used to fly to Athens before Dingapore for less than 80€. If you are a tall person, 2 hours was ok flying on Scoot, but 12 could be unfathomable. Also not that good food back then, but it was interesting as an experience.
Did Boston to Paris via Iceland on Play airlines. 5.5 hours plus another 3. Longest narrow body I’ve flown on overseas since I was 4 and flew Lufthansa 707 to Germany ( back when flying was civilized). I’d say it was so good, I’d fly another 10 hours with them. Great legroom and awesome crew and prices on board were very good.
I tried this once on a 9 hour flight from DXB to MNL. I am ok with no food and no entertainment but what killed me was the inability to recline the seats 😢😅
That’s a deal breaker for sure
Well.. the benefit is that the person in front of you can't recline the seat either..
I love flying scoot. I usually bring a big empty bottle at least 1 litre and fill it up airside before boarding. Bring my own food, sandwiches or some bread rolls or even Mcdonalds from singapore airport (again airside). Have a power bank and many movies downloaded on my tablet with my noise cancelling earphones. With all of this for me it is just like a normal flight that costs twice as much. So get organised and put the saved $ to more spending money at your destination!
I’ve flown Scoot a lot last year when I was based in SG for work. The flights to Seoul were definitely challenging (~6 hours) but the shorter ones were totally fine.
I took Scoot on a fifth-freedom flight from Berlin to Athens one year ago, which obviously wasn't such a bad experience compared to the other options you have on this route. But I seriously can't imagine to be onboard their Boeing 787 for 13 hours! So thanks that you sacrificed yourself for me...😂🙌
How did you find it or was it serendipity? I have never found an fff when searching, even when I know which airlines fly fff sectors.
With LCCs, it always seem a lot less worth it the moment you have to add checked baggage. It's not too far off full carrier which at least provides you with meals during a long haul.
Agreed completely but it's quite possible to travel without checking in luggage, as well.
If you have to fly SCOOT stay home and save for a proper vacation! Even in young people the risk of DVTs is unacceptable, especially if you're dehydrated.
I fly business class 90% of the time(if available) but this one time I took scoot from Philippines to Singapore and boy did I feel miserable 😅 I’m also 191cm and 250lbs. I paid to board 1st but was the last to board 😮
Could someone please explain to me why you want to board first, let alone pay to do so?
@@subwooferbone on scoot you can pay to board 1st. I believe its called “BoardMeFirst” or if you paid for the 1st row. Why wouldn’t you want to be comfy and not deal with the line? Same concept as business class boards 1st. Just my take
@@subwooferbonemakes a somebody feel important… lol😂
It's like who's that keen to spend more time onboard than necessary
@@subwooferbone overhead bin space
I've flown Scoot before. To and fro Langkawi, Da Nang, Hanoi and Bangkok (on their 787), all pretty short hops. They were pretty bearable, it got us from point A to B without much fuss. However beware of delays like one I experienced on the return leg from Bangkok - I've heard of some that can get as long as a day or even cancelled. Scoot is mainly infamous for its delays. I've been lucky enough not to experience that long of a delay - only a couple hours wait. All in all, if you've got enough entertainment and food, fly Scoot if there is no other option. However if there are other options such as Air Asia (anywhere within ASEAN, NOT AIR ASIA X) or Zipair (3 times a week flights to Narita), fly those instead. I seriously can't bear 10-13 hours on a Scoot flight, let alone it being delayed.
Both my flights to and return Chiang Mai last month were delayed, with the return even worse - about 1.5 hours. The flight itself wasn’t too bad, but the delays were really annoying
@@foreverfriendsg I got a 3 hour delay before from BKK to SIN on the 787. As expected, no compensation.
Beware of Philippine AirAsia, they reschedule flights instead of canceling to escape from refunds.
Great review David! If it were short haul, Scoot would be a good choice if prices are low, but Long Haul, probably not.
I was on that same flight last year. But from Singapore to Berlin, before flying back to home. I went to Melbourne as well. Also with Scoot. Been there with Jetsar and Finnair. Overall, still same to me. Long flights are never fun, until you arrive. But also at the same time. Very fond memories. So it did bring me back for sure :D
5 hrs 30 mins from Qatar to Budapest on a basic economy class 3 3 seat plane. Will never do that again lol. I still got a meal, pillow, blanket, and tv, but the legroom is just too small. I once flew using Jetstar from Singapore to Perth but luckily I bought a seat in the first row. I think I could still survive without pillow and blanket, but I need decent space for my legs during long flights.
I flew Scoot (flight no. TR 611) from Singapore to Bangkok one weeks ago. The tray in-front of seat was never cleaned or sanitized, I was seating near the last row and the toilet smell was leaking even though the toilet door was closed. Its a really awful experience
... and water should always be free on longer flights. That's also a matter of health.
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Last year I flew MVD-GRU-MVD with Latam, an airline formed by the amalgamation of the erstwhile excellent Lan Chile and TAM brazil. The bare bones economy without seat choice checked or even carry on for this 488 mile trip was £505. The seat I was allocated at check in was the back row without recline or window. Thankfully, the passenger in front did not see the need to recline on this short hop. That makes Scoot seem rather good value.
Scoot changed my CEB-SIN flight without notice - making it 2 hours earlier. Got to the airpirt and no flight. I was flying CEB-LHR on Luftansa. Amazingly, Scoot blamed Lufthansa for the flight time change. Luckily, I was moved to Singapore Airlines. For LCCs, I'd fly Cebu Pacific instead.
I really like the brutally honest series, keep the great work.
Are the crew members called "Scooters"
I did this annually ever since the service started, no issue at all, its a sleep all way journey, I did not even ordered meals. Board, read, sleep, wake up, arrive in Berlin. Same as return.
I would say the best thing about scoot is they run flights from Singapore to a lot of smaller cities (at least in Asia) which would otherwise need transferring. I'm more than ok to suffer a bit if flying with them saves me a day. Furthermore, I can always pay a little bit extra for the more spacious seats and all the other services, they are not that expensive given that the ticket itself is cheap.
I’s be fine with a long route like that if it’s just me. I could fly a budget airline like Scoot for as long as I need to. 12, 13 hours? No problem. It’s only if I fly with family or friends that I would feel guilty and pay the extra amount to travel on a legacy for a more comfortable trip for them.
True, I'd never subject my wife to it, but if it's just me I'm fine with "roughing it" from time to time.
My longest flight on a low-cost-carrier was with Wizzair from Brussels, Belgium to Abu Dhabi, UAE. It was 6 hours and 20 minutes in their a321NX. The price was great and the food tastet suprisingly fine in contrast to Ryanair. You can pre-order meals or buy beverages and snacks at the airport. The cabin was also extremely quiet so it made it rly easy to sleep. It wasn't that bad as I expected. I'd enjoyed the flight even if the legroom was... no comment. It wasn't rly that bad so imma fly low-cost-cariers more frequent now :)
In 1993, I did 13 hours on a Qantas 747-400 from Sydney to LAX and it was the most uncomfortable flight of my life - and I've flown in webbing troop seats on C-130s and in an F-4 and an A-7. (No padding or cushion on ejection seats.) It was like sitting on concrete and we were soon sitting on our jackets just to get a little padding. The call buttons didn't work, so we couldn't get any blankets to sit on, and for two full hours mid-flight (which was in daytime), we never saw any flight attendants even though our seats were close to a galley. For the final hour of the ordeal, there were nearly nonstop announcements about how Qantas had negotiated a quick passage through customs and immigration. We arrived at the same time as three other 747-400s, one each from Singapore, Hong Kong, and Malaysia. It took *forever* to get through customs and immigration as they scrutinised each passenger's passports and visas.
After we got home, I wrote to the CEO of Qantas and told him all of the above. I got a *really* snarky reply from some underling or PR hack insisting that they had "nothing to do with the customs and immigration procedures" (despite all of the on-board bragging saying the opposite), that their seats were "new and the best in the industry", and claiming that the number of cabin crew exceeded the legal minimum, making it "impossible" that none were seen for two minutes, let alone two hours. A few months later, one of the industry magazines had an article about how Qantas was replacing all of their seats with "new, very comfortable" models (despite the old ones being "new and the best in the industry") and that the "customer experience" was being "enhanced". I've never been near another Qantas aircraft since and I'll *never* fly on one again. It wasn't just the way they equipped the aircraft (I love the 747) or the level of on-board "service", it was the lies and refusal to admit any possibility a customer could have a valid complaint.
In contrast, the earlier flight we took from LA to Auckland was on an Air New Zealand 747-400 and it was one of the best flights I've ever been on. Very comfortable, great and attentive service (even though it was an overnight flight), and a thoroughly enjoyable experience from start to finish. If I ever go to Australia again, I'll fly Air NZ to Auckland and get a connecting flight to Sydney, then return home the same way. **** Qantas.
Thanks for this report, perfect as usual 🙂
Love this series!
Last year I got this flight for 230€ in total for both directions. Berlin to Bangkok with a short stay in Singapore. Was fine for the price, but not for more money
We managed to fly on this line from Berlin to Singapore at 2018 on inaugural flight. We paid 400€ for two return tickets in total. An got cupcake, pair of socks and dance from a cabin crew. It was reasonable but I have to agree that the most annoying thing was the water price. For a normal price I wouldn’t book the flight again. Thanks for a video. It brings back the memories.
I love your brutally honest videos
I remember flying Etihad from Belgrade to Singapore in 2018 for 350 euros. Good old times.
That puke have been a one-way flight. How much was the return flight?
At Singapore airport you go through security with a empty water bottle there is a bubbler at the boarding lounge to refill your water 💦 bottle before boarding the plane ✈ to Sydney and have a good feed at the terminal at Singapore plenty of food options !
I went on Swoop Airlines Boeing 737-800 from Alberta Canada to Cancun Mexico, it was 5 hours and 30ish minutes, that’s my LONGEST low cost airline flight.
After reading Scoot airline web site and the part about food and drink, i think travellers will be in for a huge surprise, in that it says consumption of food and drink from outside of the flight is not allowed to be eaten or drunk on board, i love to know how the flight crew would in force this rule as i could see many people on board having their own stuff. Strange this wasn't mentioned in this review.
Airasia also has this rule, its not uncommon in asia and they almost never enforce it
It's a budget airline. What do you expect. If you want full amenities then pay extra duh?!!
right?
Well what do you expect? He’s an airline reviewer and he’s reviewing this airline so that we would know if it was worth it go to go on a long haul budget flight. Obviously he’s gonna tell us all of the cons of the flight
Wow, unbelievable, I also flew the 9V-OFI last year! I did ATH SIN BKK.
I had some downloaded media on my devices, packed some snacks and purchased lunch beforehand in the app. Honestly loved the experience, for 200 usd!
I am planning the same: download videos and bring snacks. However Scoots says on my ticket that no outside food and drinks are allowed on board. When I asked, the agent said that i could bring food if i have document from the doctor about what food i cant/cannot eat.... even then there is no garantee... what the hec... Could you eat your snacks on board?
@@89sn00py yeah, my snacks were an apple and some nuts like almonds and peanuts, so not too noticeable. Also a water bottle refilled after security. I think they probably say that to make you purchase their meals. I dont remember seeing anyone being told off for snacking. But try to make your food discreet just in case
Flown Scoot many times and they've always been reliable. Happy to tough it out and save a few hundred $$$. Use the money you save to stay an extra couple of nights, or to do something special. Bring an empty water bottle (or two) to fill up after security, bring snacks, bring a power bank, and download a few movies/TV shows and it's basically the same as any other flight.
I genuinely think I would be able to handle this lol
Before the pandemic, every other Christmas break, my parents would take me to China, since that's where they grew up, and my last visit had been when I was 12 years old. Every single flight I took, I would literally just starve myself for 12 hours straight, since I was and still am a pretty picky eater, and airplane food really just doesn't appeal to me in general. Air China's entertainment system wasn't all that interesting to me either, as it didn't have games, and all the movies were for grown-ups, and I had no headphones. They did provide pillows, except I ALSO have problems with those too, it's that I literally cannot sleep on a warm pillow, and it's why at home, I use a sofa cushion as my pillow since it stays cool for longer. I still tried to sleep though, I would usually just lie down on my mom's lap the next seat over, and close my eyes, except I was never actually able to fall asleep doing that
hm im pretty sure air china have games now
but ur very similar to me, just that i fly to shanghai and take china eastern
I barely survived a 13 hour flight in Premium economy on United. I cant even imagine having to do this
Today i learned alot. I thought water was always free and so does socket.!
It's not that bad for Scoot. I took a economy flight from Singapore to Jakarta and the service was great, the food was good and you could even buy a Scoot 'Pikachu Jet' model with the Pokemon livery.
Such a shame about the mediore food. You'd expect better from a Singaporean carrier of all things, even a budget one, especially as Air Asia really do a fantastic job. I've flown on Air Asia and Air Asia X, and their meals have always been fantastic value, and something I actively look forward to when flying with them.
Scoot apparently doesn’t allow you to eat your own food onboard, which is mind blowing to me.
They should at least allow to bring your own bottled water, bought after airport's security. Even though that's pretty expensive, but not as expensive as onboard Scoot.
@@watchhans Yes this. Ridiculous if you're travelling with an infant or require medication.
@@watchhans i've flown scoot many times before, you're definitely allowed to bring water what are you on about? Also the no outside food & drinks rule is not uncommon to asia, Airasia has it as well. Saying that, i dont think i've ever seen them being enforced.
I took this exact route in 2019. Will do it again if the price is right.
The cons were that you need to bring at least a serving of food and water to make the price worthwhile. Don't forget to bring your own blanket, pillow, and entertainment. Food, though edible, were not good.
You and a lot of commenters here seem to quite like Scoot for its "no frills for the absolute lowest price" approach.
However, what always kept me from flying Scoot is that it rarely turned out to be this incredible deal that some other commenters were lucky enough to get: Looking at a return BER-SIN itinerary for various dates this year, Scoot is always the cheapest with around 700€, but depending on the dates there are usually Turkish or Qatar Airlines flights available for just ~20€ - 100€ more. Even if you don't care about any amenities, this would be worth it just for the checked bag alone.
That's why to me it always seems like flying Scoot would only ever be worth it if you are flying one-way or if you need the absolute fastest connection between Berlin/Athens to Singapore.
Im totally convinced that people that choose this airline knowingly, just hate themselves. I wouldn’t even get on a scoot longhaul flight even if you paid me.
So thanks for your sacrifice 😂
That’s what we call Taking one for the team. Sacrificing yourself for twelve hours in ultra low cost long haul so we the subscribers don’t have to! You have achieved boss status!
I recently did Sydney/Manila on Cebu/pacific - its is basic - after a four and a half hour wait to check in the plane was even more late leaving. My son said this plane is only built for 330 pax but modified to take 410. I think they had removed some toilets to get more seats in. Only 3 toilets up front were working and had a continious line up and They were filthy (pee on floor etc). the 8 hour flight was absolute torcher. I realise it was a budget flight but this lack of basic hygene is wrong. I paid extra for front row seating but as they changed the aircraft just before we flew they just put us anywhere - I've neveer been able to get a refund of the difference. I could go on a lot more but its useless and I will NEVER fly Cebupacific again.
I always bring my own food, water and warm items, + powerbank, so it would be worth it if i ever want to use their routes. So long as the seats aren't harder than other airlines, i'm good! Actually the option of booking in a silent area is awesome, i haven't seen that before.
i just wonder if you can use their microwave to heat your own food
I would go absolutely mad being on a flight that long with no in-flight entertainment.
7:13 Actually, Scoot will ban you for bringing outside food and drink, which is a really disgusting rule.
There’s absolutely no way you can enforce that with Germans. So at least for the Berlin-route, you can bring what you want.
Aw dammit
For the water, if you ask the staff they will fill up your bottle or give you a cup of water. You don't have to buy, but they only give you a small amount each time.
Scoot operted there a320-200/a320neo/a321neo for short and some medium haul flights.Scoot uses their 787-8/9 for long haul.
I have been in one of Scoot's business-class flights from Singapore to Hangzhou a couple of years ago. The service was good, but to my surprise, there was no USB port on the seat while the AC power outlet was offered. So I had to plug in my laptop and then charge my phone with it.
Water bottles should be complimentary
This is a brave man. He does these things so we do not need to.
I Stay Max 6 Houers In Basic Economy Class.Great Work
longest was on Air Asia around 9h.. i think.. KUL-Melbourne
"I loved Tegel airport" said no Berlin resident ever
But it cant be as bad as Schonefeld airport right?
@@annoyingguyoninternet1631 honestly, Schonefeld is not bad. Not nearly as bad a tegel was
We loved Tegel ......it was soulless and depressing. What better way to depart after super fantastic few days in Berlin.....at least the post holiday depression puts one in the right frame of mind for the near future...
@@ljcbvideo it was a farm house for people. A very very inefficient and terribly ran farm house. An embarrassment to us residents in Berlin. And Germany's efficient engineering reputation.
@@elliott7268 Berlin has some curse regarding airports, even with BER, "terminal" 2 looks depressing as fuck, and even terminal 1 is a let down imo
Power bank + smartphone ready with plenty of movies/series/books + water (after security check) and food (before security check as it's cheaper) bought at the airport is the playbook to fly low cost for more than say, 3 hours.
I took scoot from Singapore to Melbourne 2 days ago and I have to say, 33K on my flight had adjustable headrests and a bigger legroom
Great video!! I live on the east coast of Australia (Brisbane) and the nearest International airport is 15 mins from my house, so it's fairly convenient to fly a full service International airline to Asia/Americas/Middle East and beyond. Conversely, we have access to budget airlines mainly flying from the Gold Coast (1.5-2hrs by car). I've often costed out a trip on a full service airline from Brisbane vs a budget airline from the Gold Coast and after the added expense on transport to the airport, luggage, meals etc the full service airline generally wins from a economic (and comfort) perspective. Takeaway points - research all prices and add ons the budget price may not be so budget after all