Jehovah's Witnesses, 3 Questions to Ask at The Door.
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Feeling stumped when a Jehovah's Witness comes to your door? Here are 3 questions you can ask.
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Questions:
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1. Did Jesus return invisibly and appoint his faithful slave?
They will say yes, but respond Matthew 24:26 says not to trust people that say that.
2. Are you a child of God?
They will say no. Ask what child are they, since the Bible only gives two categories of children, good and bad. Galatians 4 shows how there is only 1 class of Christian.
3. Can I read the Bible on my own, and come to an accurate truth?
They are forced to say no, use 2 Timothy 3:16, or 1 John 2:27, which says all we need is scripture, and it's the Holy Spirit's job to teach us, not men.
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When the Witnesses knock on my door, I politely tell them I'm busy and to please give me their home address, and that I'll drop by their house unannounced in a few days to "talk about The Word." They always look at me strangely and reply, "I'm not giving you my home address," to which I respond, "Why not? You have my address." They end up leaving.
I did the same thing and the JW said: "I found you, so now can find me." And he walked away. Never saw him again! Lol
@@brettbarager9101 Of course, this guy didn't find you at all. As you know, they go from door to door. All the people they find are random encounters.
I love it!!!
😊 . When a Jehovah’s Witness knocks on my door, I ask them about the dinosaurs that exist millions of years ago. That’s when the conversation ends you can’t converse with people who are that ignorant, who believes the world is only 6000 years old?.
@@Clubbow5 Well, in that case everything is in a dream, including our religions.
They knocked on my door one Saturday morning and I was so hung over,I answered the door naked, they haven’t been back since.
@@VoxRox1 I saw them. They were laughing out loud and couldn’t breathe. 😁
😳
My buddy answered the door in his underwear, ti foil hat and a spatula. They ran
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@@doug729 😄
"Don't move. Their vision is based on movement." Priceless. It's the witnessauruses.
Stolen Family Guy joke
Many years ago they came to my door. My daughter was 3 and standing behind me. I started arguing with them (wish I hadn't) - one of the ladies started screaming at me that the world was going to end soon. They scared my daughter and she started crying. I told them to never show up at my house again. Jesus lives in my heart. They quickly left.
They are clueless, tactless cultists.
I like how you not only teach us the arguments to make BUT also the counter arguments to anticipate and what our response to those should be.
Thanks :) I find that with most groups like witnesses, they are trained on one level of scrutiny, but never on the counter argument. It’s very surface level, If they went too deep they’d realize their doctrines weren’t true.
@@LightoverDarkMinistry : Many of JWs were members of churches before the TRUTH led them to God and Jesus. What can the churches teach them which they would logically already know??????
The churches do not believe the scriptures. That is why they have killed each other in countless wars over the centuries and differ from each other in their doctrines.
@@LightoverDarkMinistry thank you for ruining my faith 00
@@kennethgiles-nu9dk You're welcome? 🤔
@@LightoverDarkMinistry they aren't trained to argue but are more than willing to take the time to direct one to where they can find the answer for themself. Again demonstrating true Christ like qualities that most professed Christians today lack. They repeatedly encourage students to do their own research and find their truth for themselves for it is the individual that will answer to Jehovah, no one else. They also take very seriously the responsibility of being a teacher of the scriptures.
Question 4: What did Jehovah do that was so bad to require so many witnesses?
Truth with a touch of humor!
Great work
Glory to our lord JESUS CHRIST !
Amen.
Truth and a magical zombie don't go to well together. Do you even care about truth?
...from the rain in the dripping......
Last time they came, I told them
"God is already here, I don't need you."
I asked them how overbooked heaven is and if God gives refunds and free booking uogrades. 😂
That only makes you as gullible as they are. Not that smart.
So you lied?
No he isn't.
When I went to a door I was asked if I believed Acts 2: 38. I said yes. I was asked if I received the gift of the Holy Spirit. When it was obvious I was stumped they said, figure out and come back and we will talk further. It was a few months later I left the "organization".
Thank you for sharing I always ♥️ to know which verses caused JW to leave. It's so interesting how for some people a single verse is all it takes.
I've heard John 8:58 "I am" and Zechariah 12:10 "pierced me" were other single verses that caused people to start questioning.
How did one go to anyone's door without being equipped with knowledge of the scriptures.
Sound another fake comment.
@@tongakhan230 Sir have you received the gift of the Holy Spirit❓🤨
But now you claim to be equipped with the knowledge of scriptures ❓🤔
The natural person is *_unable_* to be equipped with the knowledge of scriptures (1 Cor 2:14).
*_Only_* by the Spirit of God can the Bible be understood.
So how you claim to be equipped without receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit ⁉️😂
@@tongakhan230 so if you don't have the Holy Spirit, is Jesus your Lord⁉️ Answer yes or no and don't run 🏃💨💨 (again)
1 Corinthians 12:3 ESV - no one can say “Jesus is Lord” except in the Holy Spirit
@@timd3895 : I do not get any special revelations. Jesus has an APPOINTEE to help people with the TRUTH from the scriptures in these last days. Read his promise at Matthew 24:25-47.
This APPOINTEE maintains the JW website. God has made it available in over 1,000 languages. I use this assistance.
That is why I do not propagate theories and when debunked jump to another subject.
When Mormons knocked on my church friend's door, an interesting encounter unfolded. He greeted them by saying, "I have been expecting you. I read about you in the Bible, which warns about false prophets." This unexpected response seemed to catch the two Mormon ladies off guard. Despite their initial surprise, they left him a pamphlet and departed promptly.
The difference is that Mormons are looking for members. JWs are not. JWs are fulfilling the prophecy at Matthew 24:14.
Someone has deleted a reply? Strange!
Mormons go around looking for members. JWs do not. JWs are fulling a worldwide Witnessing work as prophesied at Matthew 24:14.
How can I talk to Mormons when it is sooooooooooo EASY to show them all the errors in their religion?
Get him next time to perform an Exorcism when they approach the door.
To have Holy water, a Bible and a cross and say "Stay thee away , Lucifer , sone of petition and all that is unholy"
then just for a laugh, splash some holy water on them
They will jump back
then say
"Yess. it burns doesn't it "
LMFAO
Have not had JWs or LDSs at my door in years. About 35 years ago I was a Marine stationed on O’ahu. I had duty on Saturday (24 hrs), so I was tired Sunday morning. Went to bed once I got home. JWs came to my door about 11. Ticked me off because they woke me up and I figured they were making their rounds at that time to catch ‘reprobates’ who were not in church. My house was rather small, so I stuck my head out my bedroom window and addressed them as they stood on my front steps and told them to PLEASE leave me alone. I had been up most of the night due to MILITARY commitments, protecting THEIR freedom. And I would normally be in CHURCH at that hour and did not believe as they believed. Can’t remember their response….I went back to sleep! 😴
They are cults and NOT Christian!
I served in the British army for 6 tours of Afghanistan and Iraq and been asked by 2 JW’s whilst was at my grandparents home after a tour, was wearing my red uniform for a photoshoot for my now late grandma who died 3 weeks later. Because of the uniform I have to be polite and said nicely no but some of these ppl are so insistant! “You are a son of Africa you must join the cause”. I replied “im a son of the UK don’t patronise me!” After this they scoffed and walked away. What a condescending cult! I’m from a family of proud atheists who saw the ugly side of what religion can do when forced out of war torn Gambia Delta, formerly in Senegal. Superstitious nonsense!
@@fortitudevalance8424 don't judge those people and don't judge Christianity, for what those people may have done. Christianity is NOT a religion like the rest, it is a Gift,free for anyone that will accept it; as a way of life here on earth and an everlasting life in Heaven, with your Maker! You don't have to accept it but if not, you will be eternally separated from your Source,which is worse than any hellfire and damnation!
@@fortitudevalance8424 what kind of superstitious nonsense do you cotton to,horoscopes, self help books and new age rubbish?
Thank you for serving, I salute you @@fortitudevalance8424
Nooo, I will not argue with those cultists in ANY WAY, everybody has already made their minds up anyway so what's there to prove? I am a Follower Of Jesus and that's what really matters!🤷
I've been able to convert a couple of them because I took the time to sit down with them and have a conversation, because I know my faith and I can defend it, but, more importantly, I believe that God gives us great opportunities to help bring His lost children back to Him.
@You converted them to what ?? What is"your faith" that you can defend. ??miccohioh6462
I agree with you-why waste your breath? Just don’t open your door!
All religions are nothing more than cults.
They never knock at my door now - not since my husband asked them if they knew where HIS church was? They naturally said no, to which he replied, "Well I know where yours is, so go away and don't come back until you've found out about mine!" At which point he quietly closed the door!
Also when talking to them keep in mind that apologetics isn’t so much about convincing people of the faith as much as it is about *defending* the faith. Ultimately it’s the Holy Spirit’s job to convict them because He’s much better at that than we are.
We as humans have infinitely less knowledge & patience than the Holy Spirit. So when we fail to convince someone because we forgot something or couldn’t keep our patience we get angry and think we failed apologetics when in reality we just missed the point of apologetics: to “give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you…”
Not sure if that was meant for me, but it does apply. Thanks for the reminder. I guess I'm too close to the edge because I have family in this cult, and I want to shake the stupid out of them sometimes, but the wrath of man never produces the righteousness of God.
@@richbaker7187 what is STUPID that you should shake from yourself is that your false teachings teach that 1=3, that I am, me and myself are used for three persons and that GOD is a torturer. And yet, you stick with that false teachings
Yup.
The HOLY SPIRIT IS FEMININE, NOT A HIM.
@@aliceneely2647 AGREED! How did you come to this conclusion? I have known this for many years. How did you learn this, that the Spirit is female? It would be so much easier for people to understand the Trinity if people could see the Trinity as a family, Father, Mother, Son. I hope you respond to this
I had young children to protect from these maggots of corrupted texts, and that was more important to me than anything.
JWs appeared at my door. I told them to make a note of my address and publicise to all their local group that if they called at my door I might well become violent.
I then ran at them screaming.
That was 35 years ago. I've seen them come down our street since then, but they never knock at my door.
That will come back to haunt you someday. They were there to reveal something to you that you will soon wish you had known. Too bad!
@@ralphhunt8007Absolute Bollocks.
Some years ago, I had them at my door on a Saturday morning. I answered holding my pit bulldog's collar and the one woman shouted, "PIT BULL!" and they left and haven't been back again.
How brave
@@ralphhunt8007We have Jesus Christ, we don't need any of your garbage.. move along😢
My friend did this when a JW family (dad, mom, yiung daughter). She kept them on the porch, making small talk until she said, "Is this your daughter? She's precious." The couple beamed while she knelt down to get on the kid's level and said, "Did you know your mommy and daddy are in a cult? When you're older, if you can find your way back here, I'll give you sanctuary and help you with emancipation."
She was never bothered again.
your are no better than them you have your bs also
@@stephenjones-q1w Well, no, I am quantifiably better than they are because I don't knock on people's doors to spread my beliefs. If I comment, you don't have to read it, snowflake. 🤣
way to go, Big thumbs up
Ezekiel 2:7 You must speak my words to them, whether they listen or not, for they are a rebellious people.
Why would JWs get perturbed if people refuse to listen? Matthew 24:14 which JWs are fulfilling is a WITNESS work. Not a conversion work.
People refusing to listen, well:
(Matthew 24:39) and they took no note until the Flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be.
All religions are cults, bigoted and ignorant
Thanks Lord for bible study class
Thanks Lord for your salvation
Which/ what bible study about what
"Ahhhh, the context burns"
ROFLMAO!
You only need ask one question: What must I do to be saved? If the answer is anything other than Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, you're dealing with a false teacher. This works for all regions, not just JWs
I ask in a different way, I do not bring up heaven or hell because you will chase a rabbit trail. I ask this simple question: DO I NEED TO BECOME A J.W, OR MORMON ETC…. TO GAIN ETERNAL LIFE?if they say yes? Then Jesus isn’t enough, I need Jesus + their religion to gain eternal life. If they say no? Then I say then why do you pursue me? Because it doesn’t matter which denomination .
According to James 2:14-36, you are wrong. Yes, we need faith in Jesus, but believing is not enough. James 2:19 tells us the demons believe in Jesus, but we know they won’t be saved. In these verses in James, it tells us our faith is made evident by our works, and that faith without works is dead, or worthless.
That is God’s word telling you this, not Jehovah’s Witnesses’ opinions.
@@watchman8644My friend, if we are saved by our works, then I ask you, which works must I do to be saved? How many works must I do to be saved?
In Acts 16, when the jailor asks, "What must I do to be saved?", Paul and Silas answer, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved". Why didn't they say anything about works?
How many works did the thief on the cross do?
James 2 is an often misunderstood chapter of the Bible. Many disagree about its meaning, but it's about spreading the gospel. Read Hebrews 4:2. Do you see a parallel with James 2:14, 2:16?
How can we grow the kingdom if we don't spread the gospel?
James 2:15-16 says, "If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?"
If a brother or sister is naked, do they not need to be clothed in the righteousness of Jesus? If they are destitute of daily food, do they not need the bread of life? How do you get the righteousness of Jesus and the bread of life?
What is needful for the body? Does not everybody need to be saved by hearing and believing the gospel?
My friend, try looking at James 2 from a more spiritual perspective. After all, God is a spirit (John 4:24). I'm sure he wants us to see things from his perspective.
@@watchman8644 My friend, if we are saved by our works, then I ask you, which works must I do to be saved? How many works must I do to be saved?
In Acts 16, when the jailor asks, "What must I do to be saved?", Paul and Silas answer, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved". Why didn't they say anything about works?
How many works did the thief on the cross do?
James 2 is an often misunderstood chapter of the Bible. Many disagree about its meaning, but it's about spreading the gospel. Read Hebrews 4:2. Do you see a parallel with James 2:14, 2:16?
How can we grow the kingdom if we don't spread the gospel?
James 2:15-16 says, "If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?"
If a brother or sister is naked, do they not need to be clothed in the righteousness of Jesus? If they are destitute of daily food, do they not need the bread of life? How do you get the righteousness of Jesus and the bread of life?
What is needful for the body? Does not everybody need to be saved by hearing and believing the gospel?
My friend, try looking at James 2 from a more spiritual perspective. After all, God is a spirit (John 4:24). I'm sure he wants us to see things from his perspective.
@@watchman8644 believing in someone is different from believing about someone. The demons believe that Jesus is the son of God. But that doesn’t mean they believe IN HIM. I believe Biden is my president, but that doesn’t mean I believe IN HIM.
Also-
Say it with me:
“Noooooo....NO!!”
Lol... never gets old
So what is 😅your point any contact to the lord is a good contact i would say to you stick to what you have and leave others to go there way
I am a mental health nurse supporting people with dementia in care homes. I had a referral a few years ago for a lady in a care home for Jehovah's Witnesses. The other residents were complaining that she would knock on their doors wanting to spread the word. My answer was that I would have thought they would be more supportive given that they do not seem to mind knocking on other peoples' doors unbidden.
Once a man came by my house ( I was already in my front yard ) and he was by himself. I found he was a Witness, or at least checking it out. I went over a lot of the things he might normally show me in the Bible along with how I thought they were wrong . Then we got into how his
' elders ' only want him to read certain parts of the Bible. I told him " between you and me, be your own man and go ahead and read the whole thing. "
Then he left. I don't know what ever became of him.
You said "how his ' elders ' only want him to read certain parts of the Bible."
No JW will ever say that. In fact, when our headquarters were in New York city, the words "READ THE BIBLE DAILY" were lit up on our building.
@@777Tralfaz777 yeah, well I guess that one did. Correction- I KNOW that one said that.
Just the same I told him to be his own man and read the whole thing.
I believe I told him to get a King James after showing him the differences in JW New World translation.
He was by himself, I'm sure if he was with others they would have directed him away from my house.
@@michaelszczys8316 The fact is, you will never find that in our literature, and the fact that we encourage Bible reading, not just certain parts. And I do not know the context of your conversation, so I cannot speak to your anecdote.
Well, it has been quite a while but I do remember most of what we talked about and the man did agree with me about the leaders wanting him to only read things authorized by them.
That is why I told him to go ahead and read the whole thing, don't let anybody tell what you can read and what you can't read.
@@michaelszczys8316 This is a total lie. No one ever has told any JW to only read certain parts of the bible.
I had a couple of JW men come to my house on several occasions decades ago trying to convince me, but they always left confused and upset.
The came one day with a converted Christian woman (CCW). I guess they thought they would be able to use her to convince me.
The conversation went something like this; CCW as she offered me a Watchtower mag while the JWs stood smugly behind her: I was a Christian until I started attending their home studies.
Me: May I have one of your bibles?
CCW: No, that it would be too expensive if we gave one to everyone that asked.
Me do you read the Bible?
CCW: We didn't have the understanding to read the Bible on our own. That's why the Watchtower literature helps us to understand the Bible.
Me: would you accept Christian literature to help you understand the Scriptures better after claiming James 1:5.
CCW: I cannot accept anything written by Man, only the Bible contains the Truth.
Me: If this is true, why do you accept the Watchtower and other JW literature?
CCW: Well, because they said it would help me understand the Bible better.
Me: Who wrote the Watchtower and the other JW literature? Isn't it men that wrote it?
CCW began to look confused while the JWs began to panick: Well, yes, but...
Me: Didn't they tell you you weren't to accept anything written by Man?
CCW more confused: But, but they told me...
JWs alarmed
Me: Asked them why is it that they told you not to accept any literature written by Man, yet they told you to read their literature?
CCW now confused looking back towards them and back to me: But, but, I was...told, but.
Me looking at the JWs: Can you explain why JWs are not to accept nor read any literature written by Man while telling them they have to read the Watchtower and other JW literature that was written by men from your Faith?
CCW looking dazed and confused making hand gestures of "what's going on?"
A JW grabbed her by the hand, told her, "Let's go.", spun her around and left.
I told the CCW to come back whenever she wanted.
They never came back.
Great argumentation. The religion’s foundation is trusting in men over trusting in God, and unfortunately masked well as many can’t see it.
Many JWs were also once members of churches. What can a church members teach them?
How many groups of Christians does Jesus have?
Disciples who obey Jesus and preach from house to house. OR someone sitting at home waiting to confront them?
Or how were these poor people treated in their churches, that they did not see other possibilities than run into "Wolfsschanze?" (Wolf's nest)
(LGBT - people are in bad situation in most conservative churches... Pity!)
@@LightoverDarkMinistry
interesting... so we should use a corrupt bible translation... endorsed by the devil to cast out the devil?..
try using the King James.. to counter the JW's... at least it does Not use the word "slaves"..
But JW-s are certainly better people than most Christians.
Telling them to f_ck off seems to get rid of them very quickly.
Why engage these people at all? Do not answer the door.
"Oh thank God you two showed up just in time. The Lord always sends me the help I need at just the right noment. I have two sofas I need to move from my basement to my attic and then I will hold the ladder while you clean out my gutters!"
😂🤣
I was reading some of the comments and I can understand how people feel being imposed on at an inopportune time, but we are given an opportunity to share God's truth with the lost. It is always good to be prepared but what I have done is listen ask questions and invite them back when I'm more prepared and ask God to use me for his will. I like what you said about it's not winning an argument. It's really about winning souls and catching them before they fall into the pit.
Love this! Yes, Philip always comes up in these discussions. What was he explaining? The gospel. Jesus. What we now have as the New Testament. It's a false analogy to the WT.
Did Jesus remain A MAN? . What does the Bible say? Rev 2, 3:22 called Jesus a spirit. 1 Cor 15 called Jesus a LIFE GIVING SPIRIT.
1 TIM 6:16 - says "he one alone having immortality,s who dwells in unapproachable light,t whom no man has seen or can see." NOTICE, NO MAN CAN SEE NOR EVEN DWELL IN THE UNAPPROACHABLE LIGHT. JESUS can see and live in that Light, so JESUS IS NOT PART OF THAT MAN AND NOR A MAN (human being in Original Greek). If Jesus remained as HUMAN , then u r saying 1 tim 6:16 is a LIE. Jesus DWELLS AND CAN SEE THAT LIGHT, but it says NO MAN (HUMAN BEING) CAN SEE. No exceptions. To be able to see that LIGHT and DWELL IN THAT LIGHT. JESUS IS NOT A MAN(human being) anymore.
REV 22:6 - whom did the angel show the revelations? He said to me: “These words are faithful* and true;j yes, Jehovah,* the God who inspired the prophets,k has sent his angel to show his SLAVES the things that must shortly take place. 7
@@Mr.DC3.1914 if Raymundus Martini was a painter instead of a monk, or was never born at all - nobody on planet earth would have ever used the false name for God that he made up out of thin air
@@deanpixx that;s just your own opinion, Pls answer this, WHERE does the term JEHO came from in the names of JEHO-SHUAH, JEHO-SHAPHAT, and JESUS? FROM JEHOVAH, the GOD OF THE BIBLE. Do you think those names were invented by Martini?
@@Mr.DC3.1914 Your explanation misses the point.
It is not decisive whether you or I consider any name to be essential, but whether the Bible writers have attached importance to that name.
This question alone is crucial.
How can Bible-loving Christians pursue this question?
By conducting independent investigations in the Bible, like the Beroeans.
Question:
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Where do the authors of the New Testament, such as Peter and Paul or John, mention the name "Jehovah" in their letters?
This is just SO great to listen to.
I’ve been studying Watchtower teaching for years.
It is terrifyingly tragic that they never know if they’re saved, if they’ve worked hard enough.
We must share with them the love of Jesus, and start to chip away at the Watchtower organization.
Put a pebble in their shoe.
I have a burning ache for them; they’re simply brainwashed.
By the way, your stick figure illustrations are better than anything!
Well done!!
Mathew 24:13 says he who endures till the end will be saved. Its talking about endurance thru the great tribulation this means you might be killed can you be faithful till death? Well if you answer is yes then you will be saved but if you dont know that you will endure or be faithful till death the you wont be saved. So how can you be so sure youl endure till the end? Apocalypse 2:10 Jesus warns us that the Devil will put some of his deciples into prison and will be tried to the limit, Jesus even says be faithful till death and i will give you the Crown of life. Can you be faithful till death? Really? SO THE REASON Jehovahs witnesses dont say for a With certainty that they are saved, it's because.
We can't be so sure we won't be disloyal under severe trials because we're all imperfect..
Please let us know what one is preparing to share with JWs?
Considering the fact that many of JWs were once members of churches, they will obviously already know what the churches teach.
@@tongakhan230 No necessarily. What if they have been brought up witnesses?
@@trevaperes5343Many are and many are not. Just like all faiths.
I was a Catholic now a JW.
1 Timothy 3:16
I learned this from my pastor: Focus on the younger Witnesses when engaging them. The ones who do not talk so much are learning & you can tell them the Truth about Jesus & his sacrifice.
Isn't this saying 'tap the vulnerable'?
How many truth can there be?
What may I ask, is this truth about Jesus?
@@tongakhan230 Read the Gospel of John and see who Jesus is: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God," John 1, vs. 1.
The Jehovah Witness translation called the "New World Translation," changes the end of this verse to, "and the Word was a God," thus, denying that Jesus is God in the flesh.
Feel free to study further on your own.
@@snakejumper3277 : How about some rationale.
'and the Word WAS God'????WAS is a past tense.
Wouldn't that imply that this Son of God lost his status as God? cf John 1:34.
When someone is WITH another, there are TWO different individuals brought into the context.
I was WITH my mother. I and my mother are two separate individuals.
I suddenly cannot also be my mother, can I.
Obviously there is something wrong with the translation that states 'and the Word was God'. Here is a sample of proper translations.
• 1808: "and the Word was a god" - Thomas Belsham The New Testament, in an Improved Version, Upon the Basis of Archbishop Newcome’s New Translation: With a Corrected Text, London.
• 1822: "and the Word was a god" - The New Testament in Greek and English (A. Kneeland, 1822.)
• 1829: "and the Word was a god" - The Monotessaron; or, The Gospel History According to the Four Evangelists (J. S. Thompson, 1829)
• 1863: "and the Word was a god" - A Literal Translation of the New Testament (Herman Heinfetter [Pseudonym of Frederick Parker], 1863)
• 1864: "and a god was the Word" - The Emphatic Diaglott by Benjamin Wilson, New York and London (left hand column interlinear reading)•
All long before God began gathering JWs.
Very interesting teaching. One thing, I'd upgrade the advice - I'd ask them these questions after I had invited them in, not just at the door. Jesus encourages us to love people. Would you ask questions to the loved one only at the door?...
When they see and feel our love, they may be more open to listen and receive...
What may I ask can anyone teach a JW? Many of them were once part of church membership. Wouldn't they already know what tricks are used to make the man Jesus into God?
(Acts 2:22) “Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus the Nazarene was A MAN
This was Peter speaking.
My Happy Buddha in the yard seems to keep them away now.
I am a confident atheist. A quick “No thank-you.” Is all the energy I’m giving them.
Like others, I responded to the first overture of my last two visitors with a courteous, "I'm not interested in knowing about your religion, but would you like me to tell you how you can be SURE you're going to heaven?" They hemmed and hawed once and said, "No," and left.
Since humans do not go to heaven, they must have realized that someone was a false prophet and left.
(Psalm 37:29) The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it.
Pity. No one has any excuse that God didn't try to warn them by sending his Witnesses to their door. Matthew 24:14.
Ezekiel 2:5 As for them, whether they listen or refuse to listen-for they are a rebellious house-they will certainly know that a prophet was among them.
@@tongakhan230 "Since humans do NOT go to heaven..." 100% correct! Not ONE - but JW's are taught that 144,000 will go.
Christ REPLACED Adam as our earthly ancestor & lifegiver (Isaiah 9:6 & 1 Cor. 15:45) by giving his life as a ransom. (Matthew 20:28)
Legally & logically, since Jesus repurchased what was LOST by Adam, (Luke 19:10) that's EXACTLY what would be returned - nothing more!
If 144,000 humans became immortal king/priests in heaven, it would seriously unbalance God's scales of justice and pervert the meaning & purpose of a ransom. More to the teaching - but this summarises the obvious.
@@fontybits : Humans were created to live on earth. A selected FEW are transformed so that they can live away from earth. See Philippians 3:20,21.
Luke 12:32 “Have no fear, LITTLE FLOCK, for your Father has approved of giving you the Kingdom.
A Government is set up IN HEAVEN with Jesus as King and a few chosen humans to co-rule with him. Revelation 5:9,10.
Who better to help restore the earth to a paradise that Jesus who had experience as a man and humans who also were inhabitants of this earth.
Speaking about Jesus:
Hebrews 4:15 For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize WITH OUR WEAKNESSES, but we have one who has been tested in all respects AS WE HAVE, but without sin.
If Adam had not sinned, there would have been no need for God to send his angel son and also to set up a Government to restore anything.
The chosen 144,000 and mankind in general benefit from Jesus' ransom sacrifice. They both get everlasting life.
Years ago I drew a outline with chalk on my Porch of a dead person, with a Watchtower next to it. They saw it and turned and walked away fast.
Those who pay no attention to the JWs witness work as Matthew 24:14 states, will:
(Matthew 24:39) and they took no note until the Flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be.
2 John 1:10 says , “ if someone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not welcome or accept that person in your house.”
Exodus 21 says I can own slaves.
But how doees one know that the teaching being offered is true? I guess we should just believe it without any form of quastioning or critical thinking at all.
@@FirstnameLastname-cx6gothe New Testament teaches against slavery read Philemon
Oh and it was the influence of the church that Rome ended slavery
It’s 2024
Take a hermeneutics class.
@@PhilIsaak So God changed His mind? So what if He did? Slavery was always bad, and God should have known that.
@@FirstnameLastname-cx6go exegesis not eisegesis
Hermeneutics is your friend. The slavery you’re speaking of is nothing close to what whites did to blacks in America. The two aren’t comparable. Regardless God isn’t for slavery just like He isn’t for polygamy but He permitted it for reasons peculiar to Him. What does that have to do with the fact that DNA HAD to have been designed and clearly had a designer and the historical occurrence of the resurrection of Jesus that changed the world? It’s appointed unto a man once to die then after this comes the judgment. Hebrews 9:27
We all die
We will all bow before Jesus
We all know this isn’t all there is
I actually asked the third question before. They replied "Yes, but some Biblical verses can be confusing or difficult to understand. So auxiliary materials are essential in some cases. The materials are not supposed to replace the Bible, they just help you to understand it better". Then I said "How do I know if your materials have the correct understanding of the Bible but not others? You have changed your doctrines a lot. How can I know if what I read from your materials won't be overturned in the future?" They just thanked my time with them and walked away.
JW's have never changed doctrines.(if I understand you correctly)
@@ripcord8738 JWs are famous for changing doctrines. The recent change should be the doctrine regarding the "second generation".
@@ripcord8738JWs have changed doctrines (1914, shunning, birthdays and organ transplant). And, most recently beards.
@@Sean-gio2Ripcord is a JW troll.
@@ripcord8738 "JW's have never changed doctrines"
Are you trolling, Ripcord? JWs have changed doctrines (Even your WT cult agrees that they have changed doctrines, such as 1914, shunning, birthdays and organ transplants). And, most recently beards.
During Covid the JWs started leaving voice mails on my phone. Had a boss who was a JW leader and ran his kingdom hall on government time. Any time you were in a meeting with him and the phone rang and he asked you to step out the call was about "church" business.
Ever wonder why they always show up in pairs and never alone? My theory is to help prevent any JW from discovering the truth. It's hard to convert a single JW and almost impossible to convert two. The other one is there to report any wrongdoing of the other back to the leadership so they can be properly punished and even shunned, if needed. This makes it very unlikely for any JW to have an honest conversation with you even if they are interested in your points.
Hahahahha sad but true
One police the other 😢
Actually it’s for safety but they’re definitely a cult that does police each other shunning anyone who doesn’t tow the line of indoctrination.
You can't be serious.
@@ripcord8738 yeap real serious!
I grew up in the JWs and their is no space for thinking,
You either conform to what they say or your cut from them talking to you.
To avoid analitical thinking,
Their interpretation is absolute even whith no proof.
Because JESUS they say apointed them in secret and invisible.
Only the select few saw him.
Trust them even if its not biblical.😒🧐🤔🤦
@@ripcord8738 we are dead serious, it's no secret Jehovah Kingdom Hall is full of scumbaggs.. yeah I'm insulting you
Ask them if they are born again. They will say “Personally No”.
You reply, John 3:3 “Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.””
You tell them they need the inward dwelling of the Holy Spirit to guide them into the truth - not an organisation.
They would say "personally, no" because they're not.
Being "born again" is only for those that have been selected by God to rule in the Kingdom.(Mt.6:9,10;Re.5:9,10;20:6)
@@ripcord8738 The phrase “born again” applies to people who have accepted Jesus as their Savior or Redeemer. The born again soul realizes that they are a sinner (Romans 3:23) and that the penalty for that sin is death (Romans 6:23). To rectify the circumstances, God sent His only Son to die in their place, to take the punishment for sin (Romans 5:8). After Jesus’ death, He arose from the dead (1 Corinthians 15:3-6). Jesus is the only way to God (John 14:6) and He provides the blessing of salvation. Each person has the choice to receive or reject God’s gift through faith (Ephesians 2:8-9) and experience new birth (John 3:1-8). Whoever follows Jesus as Christ, the Son of God, and has accepted His gift of life can be called Christian. That is where the journey of rebirth begins.
@@robstacy The belief that all good people go to heaven is promulgated on the "immortal soul" doctrine, which is unscriptural.
As I stated in my 1st post, only those selected by God are "born again".
Everyone else(survivors of Armageddon) will live on earth.(Psalm 37:9-11,29;Mt.5:5;Isaiah 11:6-9)
@@ripcord8738 The Bible teaches that at death the souls of believers will go to be with the Lord, and, after the resurrection, they will spend eternity in the New Jerusalem, which comes down from heaven onto the new earth. The Bible makes it clear that deceased believers are with the Lord (2 Corinthians 5:6-8; Philippians 1:23) in a spiritual realm called heaven. The ultimate destiny awaiting believers is the new heavens and new earth (Revelation 21-22). Our physical bodies will be resurrected and glorified, made perfectly fit for eternity on the new earth.
@@ripcord8738 The immortality of the soul is clearly seen in many places in Scripture. For example, in Psalm 23:6 David says, “I will dwell in the house of the Lord forever.” In Ecclesiastes 12:7 the Preacher mentions two things that happen at death: “The dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.” In 1 Thessalonians 4:14, Paul says that believers who have died will be with Christ at the rapture of the church: “We believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him.” All these passages indicate that the soul is immortal.
I'll say this much for JWs, the last time they came to my door I told them I wasn't interested and to please not come back. They apparently put me on a "do not visit" list and have never been back.
That's exactly what happens if you say you don't want anyone coming back to your house. They are very respectful like that, and they are the only ones that people call a cult who will never ask anyone for money.
A friend of mine gave me a good response. Ask them, "Are you that group that believes in sacrificing children and small animals?" When they answer "No" say "Then I'm not interested." and close the door.
Matthew 10:14 Wherever anyone does not receive you or listen to your words, on going out of that house or that city, shake the dust off your feet.
Whose loss will it be if a householder refuses to listen?
@@tongakhan230 Am I supposed to change my faith every time someone comes to my door pushing their version of religion?
@@DAK59 : Who else comes to the doors but JWs. There are also door to door salesmen. But they are selling things.
The question to ask if, why do JWs come to the homes? Despite Matthew 24:9.
JWs are commissioned to fulfill.
(Matthew 24:14) And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for A WITNESS TO ALL THE NATIONS, and then the end will come.
JWs do not go around converting anyone.
They are WITNESSING about a great special event.
They also give the opportunity for those searching for the TRUTH to learn it.
(Micah 4:2) And many nations will go and say: “COME, let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah And to the house of the God of Jacob. He will instruct us about his ways, And we will walk in his paths.” For law will go out of Zion, And the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem.
This is a prophecy about the restoration of True Worship in these last days.
People who leave their religions and become JWs have taken this invitation.
I simply asked 2 Jws if they were saved. They said they don’t know yet. I said that I am saved. Works can’t save
Didn't the JWs ask how one is saved?
Saved from what?
JWs are right. Being saved is a future hope.
(Matthew 24:13) But the one who has endured to the end will be saved.
I applaud their honesty and being true to their beliefs.Few Christians are! If honest it’s rare that those claiming to be Christians witness to anyone and the majority I’ve encountered or no different from unbelievers!Today it seems all claiming to be Christians are”saved “ without repentance or conviction.Have been approached,worked with and had neighbors that were JW that respected me and I respected them.I simply say I’m not interested have a nice day! I have never seen a JW carry themselves or dress indecently .Regardless to one’s opinion of their beliefs some claiming to be Christians could learn a thing or two from them!
@@tongakhan230 "That you may KNOW that you HAVE eternal life." Present tense.
@@tfraymond : When someone puts faith in Jesus it is a sure expectation that he will have everlasting life.
If anyone has everlasting life now he won't die. People are still dying.
God is gathering JWs for what purpose?
They will be the survivors who will be the foundation of the New Earth. See Revelation 7:9,10,14.
When the millions are resurrected during Jesus' 1,000 year rule, there will be trained people to welcome and resettle them. Acts 24:15.
@@tfraymondso Judas was saved and what happened?
I have one question they either refuse to, or cannot answer. If Jehovah is the Anglicized variant of Yahweh (YHWH) which means I AM in past, present, and future tense, then why can't God be Father, Son, and Holy Spirit? I challenge you to ask this question.
Beautiful. Thank you! 🎉
Yup.
1, Could you please turn around.
2, Could you walk back down my garden path
3,... and lastly could you close the gate behind you
Indeed, your choice to make. But what if Jesus sent them? How would you know?
@@777Tralfaz777 He'd protect them from my dogs. 😂
@@PortmanRd No, as persecution was foretold. Which is why we were told to be cautious.
(Matthew 24:14) And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
I actually got entertained (along with my ex) at a house full of J.W's. Starter, main, and a sweet. Oddest experience of my life.
@@PortmanRd How so?
the one thing I remember about my dad is when bible bashers come to his door he asks war the front gate open when you come in and they say yes he politely says then shut it on your way out .😂😂
They’re not asking any questions at my door because I don’t answer. I’m not looking to be converted nor debate. They aren’t worth my time.
Simple solution.
@@carolcole570 no the Book of Mormon is very different.
@@carolcole570 It was an old comment and I didn’t remember or care. I wouldn’t answer to them either. Have a nice day.
James 1:17 makes it clear that God does not change and there are many other verses that teach the immutability of God. The Bible also says in John chapter 1 that Jesus Christ is the Word become flesh who dwelt among us. In order for the New World Translation and all the other writings of the Jehovah’s Witnesses to be true then God has changed. Everything they say must be rejected. I am not willing to become an expert in their demonic doctrines in order to witness to them. Galatians 1:6-9 makes it clear that there is ONE gospel and those who preach another are accursed. If a JW came to my door they would not be invited in or greeted. They would not be allowed to conduct a study of the New World Translation or any of their other writings. I would simply tell them that based on the Bible which predates JW’s by thousands of years everything they say must be rejected. They have not a leg to stand on. You are never more loving than when you speak the truth. If I was to entertain them and let them speak I would only be allowing them to add to their sin and my own which is the point of 1 John 1:10.
My mom answered the door only to get mad and tell the lady”get off my porch”.
I told her no need ro be rude just dont answer if she doesnt wanna talk to them.
@@Callmethebreeze902You just said you weren't interested in debate, yet here you are arguing on the youtube.
Great video! I appreciate this resource when talking to JW's...God bless you!
Strange comment if I may say so.
What can a church member share with JWs?
They would already know what the churches teach. That is why they left the churches in favour of True Worship.
@@tongakhan230 You can share the true gospel and the true Jesus Christ, because the JWs don't know them... God bless you!
@@UnashamedofJesus : If JWs are not the fulfillment of Micah 4:1-5, who is? Any idea?
That prophecy states that True Worship will be restored in these last days. God will gather all those who love and want to worship him in True Worship.
@@tongakhan230 So your prophet is Charles Russell?
@@UnashamedofJesus : If one doesn't know who a prophet is, check it out. Remaining ignorant in this 21st Century is on purpose. Generally speaking, of course.
On the very rare occasions Jehovah witnesses knock at my door, I simply tell them politely that I am a secular man not interested in religion. If they want to leave their leaflets, I take them and bid them goodbye. No problem.
So you lie? Interesting that people can choose to sin yet think they are saved.
What Bible translation are you using. Also fantastic work by the way
Esv, Nasb, in my opinion probably the closest to the original Greek.
Brother Russell taught that 1914 was going to be the end Armageddon would be here. And then they changed it. 🤣👍
Charles Russell said that 1914 would be the establishment of God's Kingdom and the beginning of Christ's invisible presence.
JWs, including Charles Russell, have never said that 1914, or any other year would be the start of Armageddon.
Are you disfellowshipped?
@@ripcord8738 not originally do your research 👹
Yeah after the original when you said it was going to be the end it didn't happen and then he changed it. Do your research
@@gaetanodetorrice5555 Russell taught there will be a great preaching work so clearly he did not believe the world will end in his time
@@Scott48-m7e I'm not going back and forth with this I did my research that's all I'm going to say about it you can believe what you want. I know what they taught and I know what they predicted so you can go on and on I did my research so you can believe what you want to believe I know what 🙏 what I know. I'm not trying to be nasty but I did my research.
What kind of Jesus are the JWs on about that returned in 1914? This is what the Biblical Jesus said concerning his second coming.
"So if anyone tells you, there he is, in the wilderness, do not go out, or Here he is in the inner rooms, do not believe it.
For as lightning comes from the east and is visible even in the west, so will the coming of the son of man be. Matt 24: 26-27 "NIV"
The "kind" of Jesus who's life story is in the Bible, is the only one I know.
God's Kingdom, with his son Jesus Christ as its' king, was established in 1914. Jesus' presence also began at the same time. (Mt.6:9,10;24:3;Re.12:7-12)
You quoted those verses but no application?🤔
@@ripcord8738 God doesn't have a name. When Jesus was in the form of God he didn't have a name Ex3:3:14 "KJV" "IAM", was given a human name Jesus, because he became a man.
When Jesus returns as the Lord of Lords and King of Kings, Nobody will know his name except himself. Rev 19:12 "NIV," The name Jesus will no longer apply. The Kingdom of God will be established on Earth for 1000 years, but when the 1000 years are over the Kingdom of God will become universal not just on Earth.
Eternal life cannot exist while in the flesh. Jesus told Nicodemus that he must be born again. Read John 3:1-21. "NIV"
Born again means a transition from physical to spiritual just like Jesus was.
Flesh and blood cannot enter the kingdom of God 1Cor 15:50.
To inherit the kingdom of God we must also become gods. 1 John 3:2
Do you understand why Jesus is symbolized wearing many crowns when he returns in Rev19:12 "NIV"?
That means there will only be one King ruling all nations on earth. The many crowns once belonged to the kings who ruled over many nations now the Kingdom has only one king ruling all nations.
Jesus telling people not to believe if someone says he is here or there is logically indicative of his invisible return. He cannot be seen. 1 Timothy 6:16 makes this clear.
@@jimjuri6490 For as for the lightning comes from the east and shines even unto the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be. Matt 24:27 "NIV". Which part of Matt 24:27, you don't understand? Is lightning Invisible? Neither Jesus will be invisible when he returns.
@@benjaminfalzon4622 : Jesus tells people not to run to look even if someone says he has come. So what happens if he really comes?
Ever give it a thought.
What it's important is that we are all children of the most high heavenly father Jehova God. Much blessings.
no we're not all his children. Only those who believe the Gospel are His.
@@topgun9587 aren't all of us His little saints?
According to the Greek Interlinear Translation, the Greek definite article "ho" is found at John 1:1.
@@topgun9587 what about fatherly love?
Wrong.. only those who are in Christ Jesus belong to God, everyone else will be told to depart from him
I always take over the conversation with anyone that comes to my door selling their religion and focus on the facts of me making sure they're exposed to God's word, that they understand salvation, that they believe in the Holy Trinity and the virgin birth, that Christ was crucified, dead and buried and rose again on the third day and that they can accept Christ into their heart at any time. That there is no such thing as "good works getting you into heaven." I keep the discussion focused on the only way to enter heaven is through accepting Christ into your heart. I make sure they know there is no other way and "being nice and loving everyone," doesn't cut it. I'm more concerned about their soul than they are of mine, but it's my job to spread the gospel and teach how to be truly born again.
Brilliant, very helpful for those ‘awkward’ moments.
Great video. Love the Mathew 24 chapter reasoning about the false prophet saying "Jesus invisible"...
However.....My question would leave a JW Circuit Overseer speechless....
."WHERE...does the Bible or Jesus say that my beloved NON-ANOINTED grandmother will be resurrected into a WORK-IN-PROGRESS paradise ...during...the 1000 year abyssing of Satan and his demons?"....
answer: The Bible doesn't ... Jehovah's witnesses, like the Over-Lapping Generation story, have made that story up too....IF INTERESTED for easy proof in Revelation...read my own reply to my comment.
....YES..BEFORE the wonderfulness of Rev. 21:3,4 can happen........REVELATION CHAPTER 20 TELLS US in regards to my dead loved one....THAT ONLY AFTER ....
1.SATAN IS LET LOOSE after his 1000 year abyssing.....
2. ONLY AFTER....SATAN CONVINCES a KA-ZILLION HUMANS TO TAKE UP ARMS TO ALLEDGEDLY ATTACK AN INVISIBLE HEAVENLY JERUSALEM.....(C'monnnn...How Long WILL THAT TAKE!!!!!)
3. ONLY AFTER SATAN, HIS DEMONS and his HUMAN ARMIES ARE DESTROYED WITH FIRE FOR GOOD....
then
4. MY GRANDMA WILL BE RESURRECTED FOR (what the heck) JUDGEMENT.... ON JUDGEMENT DAY (Revelation 20:11,12 )... which is separate from the 1000 years of Satan's abyssing.......
....Revelation 20:5 says........"The rest of the dead did NOT come to life until AFTER the 1000 years were ended."
.....ah heck......Just read the NEW WORLD TRANSLATION ITSELF....Revelation chapter 20 carefully verse by verse....
If you do read it a couple of times................It will dawn on you.....that if Armageddon came tomorrow....it could be another 1500 years before I'd see my dead grandma.....
NO THANKS to this whole scam!
@@bobevers7459 ,
When will your grandmother be resurrected ?
Matthew 24: 3
The disciples asked Jesus himself that same question .
Matthew 24: 4 Jesus answered them
Matthew 24:6 - you will hear of Wars and rumors of War , see that you are not troubled for these things must take place, but the end is not yet .
Matthew 24:14
And then the end shall come
John 5:28 &29
Marvel not , for the hour comes in which ( ALL )in the tomb shall hear his voice,
Your dead grandmother is included when it says (ALL ) .
John 5:29
And shall come forth good and evil .
It's only after this resurrection Bob that Revelation 20: 4 takes place
And Matthew 24: 6
The Wars and rumors of Wars
Matthew 24:34
This generation shall NOT pass away til these things be Accomplished .
When did the Earth hear of a World wide War ?
World War 1 - 1914 to 1919
And there is 71 people left from this generation that are alive on this Earth Today -Matthew 24:34
71 people who are from this generation
Bob !
Well done. I once spoke with sone Jehova's Witnesses. Asked them about assurance of salvation...do you know you're going to Heaven? They said, "Maybe,hopefully ". My response: if I was hit by a car & killed,I KNOW I would go to Heaven because Christ stated it. I thought their eyes would pop out of their heads!!
I had a couple JWs at my door and I answered their questions with the Bible says. Then they asked what is truth? I replied Jesus. Well they said Gods word is truth . I said that is true, but the Bible says that Jesus said I am the Way, the TRUTH and the Life no one comes to the Father except through me. I never saw anyone leave so fast.
One time I told a coworker that I was a latter day saint and a Jehovah's Witness. She took the bait and asked your a Jehovah's Witness? I said the witness is this, Jesus is Jehovah. We agreed to disagree and we worked well together.
If Jesus is Jehovah, then who sent Jesus to the Earth?
@@777Tralfaz777If he isn't God, then what was the point of Jesus's sacrifice?
@@777Tralfaz777the Father/ Father Son Holy Spirit is God in Genesis God said let's make Man In OUR image
@@brendangoodbrand2597 If God speaks of Himself with plural pronouns, why did the Bible writers use singular pronouns when referring to Him???
God was speaking to His master worker.
@@777Tralfaz777 John 1:3 and genesis show who God I have a question for you do you call God a liar ? Do you have eternal meaning can you lose your salvation 1John 5:13:19 and if you look Jesus said it was himself with Abraham Bible says it was YHWH Genesis 19:24 Zechariah 2:11 / Zechariah 12:10 YHWH is speaking says they will look on ME whom they Pierced / First off God is who he is not pre conceived ideas also scripture says the Holy Spirit is HE not a active force bible also says Holy Spirit is YHWH also the Father calls the Son God so let's forget about this let's See if you have the right Jesus Christ because there is many just like Jesus said the Jesus Christ of the bible gives eternal Life freely can't be earned Romans 3:19,26 so let's see if you call God a Liar
Just recite to them Revelation 22:19. The Bible is enough and it shouldn’t be tampered, or changed.
Jesus did not create himself, but he created all other things
Where does the Bible say he created all other things. Can you quote me the verse?
@@LightoverDarkMinistry all things does not include himself so "other" was added to clarify
@@scottgrey2877 Not what I asked. I said show me a verse that says all others.
@@LightoverDarkMinistry Colossians 1:16 NWT
Jehovahs name endures forever xxx and ever amen
I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses. And these are my answer to these questions.
Question 1) Did Jesus return invisibly, and appoint his faithful slave?
Answer: Yes. Many confuse Jesus' presence (in kingdom power) with his coming to execute judgement at Armageddon. The gentile times ended in 1914, and Jesus was installed as king of God's kingdom in that year. This is established by both Biblical prophesy, and the sign Jesus gave at Matt 24:3-.
At 2:10 that circular reasoning is not used by JW. That is a straw man. People become JW because it is evident what they teach comes from the Bible. Recognizing this is the true congregation makes further determinations possible. Like who that slave is.
At 2:30 if Jesus would be seen, then why did he give a sign? Those specific verses are about when Jesus comes to execute judgement.
3:10 Jesus gave the sign of his presence. That is in scripture! Not the invention of men.
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Question 2) Are you a child of God.
Answer: Yes. While the anointed have a special relationship, and are said to be adopted as sons in a special way, all who are dedicated to God are God's children. 1 John 3:10 The children of God and the children of the Devil are evident by this fact: Whoever does not practice righteousness does not originate with God, nor does the one who does not love his brother.
The anointed are to serve with Christ, as kings over the Earth, for the benefit of faithful mankind.
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Question 3) Can I read the Bible on my own and come to an accurate truth?
Answer: No. That is why there are thousands of denominations. You need to be where God's spirit is! We need to meet with our brothers.
Acts 8:29 So the spirit said to Philip: “Go over and approach this chariot.” 30 Philip ran alongside and heard him reading aloud Isaiah the prophet, and he said: “Do you actually know what you are reading?” 31 He said: “Really, how could I ever do so unless someone guided me?” So he urged Philip to get on and sit down with him.
What you believe needs to be in harmony with the true congregation Jesus is head of. The question is, can you reject the congregation Jesus is head of, and still be acceptable to Jesus?
I would love to have a conversation with you, privately or publicly, up to you. Can you please contact me, I don't have many witnesses who are able to correct what they believe. I certainty don't want to misrepresent your religion. If you do feel this is wrong, you're also more than welcome to come on publicly and defend your faith in a non-mocking or invasive environment, I just want to hear what you believe and why.
@@LightoverDarkMinistry We can talk here if you like.
@@777Tralfaz777 While I do enjoy the comment section, it's also very limited. I would really love to talk in a personal manner, and you seem like a JW who is very knowledgeable and convicted about their beliefs and willing to engage in opposing view points. I'm not trying to trap you or secretly record you or something bizarre like that. Lightoverdarkministry@gmail.com
@@LightoverDarkMinistry Limited? How so? I like this public record, so all can see it if they choose to. If it gets long, we can start a new thread. 😀
Yeah but I have a lot of questions, and I enjoy having normal conversations. I'm sure you do too @@777Tralfaz777
This is a post for DX (aka "Mr D C1"). The topic of the 144,000 keeps coming up and DX will not be honest and answer my questions. So I'll post them up front and see if you will answer them. Everyone, please refrain from jumping in and allowing him to divert the conversation. Please simply post "You haven't answered the question" each time he deflects but don't ask additional questions, let's get an answer.
The apocalyptic genre that John employs in Revelation routinely employs symbolic numbers (look at all the 7's and 12's in Revelation). I think it is quite evident that the 144,000 is a symbolic number but JW's insist that it is literal. If that is the case then they must be consistent and interpret the other parts of the passage literally, so lets see if DX is consistent.
“'Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads.' And I heard the number of the sealed, 144,000, sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel: 12,000 from the tribe of Judah were sealed, 12,000 from the tribe of Reuben, 12,000 from the tribe of Gad, 12,000 from the tribe of Asher, 12,000 from the tribe of Naphtali, 12,000 from the tribe of Manasseh, 12,000 from the tribe of Simeon, 12,000 from the tribe of Levi, 12,000 from the tribe of Issachar, 12,000 from the tribe of Zebulun, 12,000 from the tribe of Joseph, 12,000 from the tribe of Benjamin were sealed.” (Rev 7:3-8)
Question 1: Do these people literally have a mark in their forehead?
Question 2: Are these Jews or Gentiles? The text mentions the twelve (12) sons of Israel, so are they Jews?
“Then I looked, and behold, on Mount Zion stood the Lamb, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads. And I heard a voice from heaven like the roar of many waters and like the sound of loud thunder. The voice I heard was like the sound of harpists playing on their harps, and they were singing a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and before the elders. No one could learn that song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth. *It is these who have not defiled themselves with women, for they are virgins.* It is these who follow the Lamb wherever he goes. These have been redeemed from mankind as firstfruits for God and the Lamb,” (Rev 14:1-4)
Question 3: Are these people literally male virgins?
Let's see if we get answers or deflections.
Before I do ANy explanations to your questions, here are SIMPLE questions first to establish basic truths. 1. IN Rev 7:1-4, who are the ones SEALED? the 144K or the great crowd? 2. Is the MARK given by GOD physical or spiritual? 3. Is the term VIRGIN in the Bible ONLY PHYSICAL?
@@Mr.DC3.1914 Strike 1 - You didn't answer my questions.
@@kevinfromcanada4379 I'm answering your question with a question just like what Jesus did. lol. you know you won't answer my questions as it forms the basis of the truth and once you understand it, it will actually answer your questions which you don't like the answer to
@@kevinfromcanada4379 here are SIMPLE questions first to establish basic truths. 1. IN Rev 7:1-4, who are the ones SEALED? the 144K or the great crowd? 2. Is the MARK given by GOD physical or spiritual? 3. Is the term VIRGIN in the Bible ONLY PHYSICAL?
@@kevinfromcanada4379 also , what does the Bible say about JEWS, are they PHYSICAL Jews only?
50 years ago, a woman and a little child came to my door, Jehovah's Witnesses. Being a wise a$$, I asked if she believed the Bible literally and she answered yes. Then I asked about the Israelites battling the Madianites in the Old Testament where Moses raised his arms to Heaven and the sun stood still (in the Latin the Bible says "stetit sol") so the Israelites could win the battle. Then I said that this would mean the sun moves around the Earth but we know that the Earth moves around the sun, so the Bible is wrong, correct? She was totally flummoxed and I had a good laugh.
I used to love to hang them up when they came to my house witnessing. John chaper 1, verse 1 is different in their Bible compared to the Holy Bible.
Christian Bible says in John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Jehovahs Witness bible says in John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.
So I ask you, was the Word God, or a god?
As my old friend Herman Thomas says, "That'll preach."
The Word is Jesus! 😉
The argument about the addition of the indefinite article "a" in koine Greek(or absence of it) has been debunked.
It's interesting that the KJV doesn't use it at John 1:1 but does just the opposite at Acts 28:6. Oops!
@Ripcord you can argue about the Bible all day long for weeks in end. To me it's not about the "a" it's about who you are willing to say Jesus Christ is. For me it's Jesus about whether Jesus is a big "G" God or a little "g" god. He's God the creator incarnate to me.
@@ripcord8738 It's interesting that NWT does use "a god" in John 1:1 but not in 2 Cor 5:19. *Oops!*
Another great video Mr L.O.D. even after witnessing to JWs for nearly 4 decades, there are always things I learn from watching your videos.
What I find amazing about the JWs is, THEY the WT can make hundreds of doctrinal changes and blatant contradictions, and that's okay, but any Christian Denomination that is perceived to have done something wrong in their past and they the JW becomes completely obsessed and judgemental about it.
The average JW reminds me of the Racist Cop Rod Steiger in the movie "In the Heat of the Night" where all black people are guilty including the black cop (Sidney Poitier), but nearly all white people are guilt free.
The JWs allow the GB and elders etc to Basically do anything false and contradictory, but they are so bigoted against Real Christians and will try to lecture the Church on its so-called failings.
Anyway thanks again for the great videos. It helps us Apologists out in the field.
Doing what I can for the Kingdom :)
IS THE BIBLE ENOUGH? So if yes, why do you believe IN THE TRINITY WHICH IS NOT IN THE BIBLE? Why do you believe that GOD is a TORTURER when it is NOT IN THE BIBLE, etc
@@Mr.DC3.1914 I have many videos on the topic of how the concepts of Christ’s deity are in scripture. Is governing body in scripture? Publishers? Spirit Creature? Time sheets? How about the resurrected dead bring put on probation?
@@LightoverDarkMinistry IS THE BIBLE ENOUGH? So if yes, why do you believe IN THE TRINITY WHICH IS NOT IN THE BIBLE? Why do you believe that GOD is a TORTURER when it is NOT IN THE BIBLE, etc
@@LightoverDarkMinistry LOL, so you are saying the BIBLE IS NOT ENOUGH because you have to believe in the pagan trinity and that GOD is a torturer
I always ask witnesses if they have a social security card? When they answer Yes, I yell mark of the beast and then put my fingers in the sign of the cross. Then I yell get away Satan and protect me jesus. It freaks em out and they usually run away. Me I just enjoy the good laugh and the show!
They probably won't answer these questions.
One can not say anymore than the Bible teaches that Jesus is The son of God Jehovah the almighty and that Jesus is A god, not THE true god and not equal to his father Jehovah (Mathew 24:38-41) if he was he would know what Jehovah god knows would he not? He never displayed himself as equal and he did not send himself, but always said:" He that sent me" and Jehovah saying "this is my son whom I have approved". You need to do more research regarding translations of the Greek scriptures.
Do you know Greek?
Here is a citation from one of my Greek grammars:
“John’s Gospel opens with the majestic words, ‘In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God…’ John asserts, in a striking exclamation point, that the Word was himself God. The reader is left to infer that there are two referents of θεός, God (the Father; John 1:14) and the Word (Jesus; John 1:17). John’s striking opening assertion sets up the question of Jesus’s identity that will dominate the rest of the entire Gospel, ultimately leading to Jesus’s crucifixion: the deity of Christ. In the original historical context, Jesus faces escalating opposition from the Jewish leaders who consider his claim blasphemy (5:17-18; 8:58-59; 10:30-33). Indeed, at Jesus’s trial, they tell Pilate the Roman governor, ‘We have a law, and according to that law He must die, because He made Himself the Son of God’ (John 19:7).
In our day, too, there are those who dispute Jesus’s claim to deity, not least by challenging the conventional understanding of John 1:1, and here in particular the third phrase, ‘the Word was God’ (θεὸς ἦν ὁ λόγος). In part, the reason for this is that the word order is reversed, with the predicate nominative (θεός) preceding the subject (ὁ λόγος). Is it legitimate to infer from the lack of article in front of θεός that ‘God’ is indefinite and should be rendered ‘a god’? The answer is a firm ‘no.’ According to Greek syntax, it is common for a definite nominative predicate noun preceding a finite verb to be without the article. In this way, the subject (articular) is distinguished from the predicate nominative (anarthrous, i.e., without the article), yet without indicating that the latter is indefinite (as in ‘a god’). Of course, Jesus’s deity does not rest on this one verse (see, e.g., John 20:28), but a sufficient knowledge of Greek syntax saves the reader from drawing the wrong conclusion.” Andreas J Köstenberger, Benjamin L Merkle, and Robert L Plummer, Going Deeper with New Testament Greek : An Intermediate Study of the Grammar and Syntax of the New Testament (Nashville, Tennessee: B & H Academic, 2020), 51-52.
@@BasicBiblicalTruth there is no need for Greek syntaxes consideration to be able to understand the plain Truths in the entire Bible. The deity of Jesus cannot be argued just as the Almightiness of his father Jehovah cannot be argued. Jesus is God, Jehovah is God, Satan is God, Angels are God, all are delty and divine in origin, but none of the other delties are equal to the Almighty who created them all. The entire Bible should be considered to understand the relationship of God Almighty to Jesus his son. Hebrew bible writers all believed in one delty not three. Since they never entertained such taught, it will be wrong to begin to infer that Genesis 1:1 use of the Excellence plural word "Lord" suggest Moses was implying three God. Such idea was never entertained by him. Likewise, it will be wrong to say that John at 1:1 was entertaining the idea of Jesus being of the same equality or substance with his father, since John many other verses insist that Jesus is the son of God, and even said that those who deny that Jesus is the son 9f God are Antichrist.
@@A-Academy-1 It isn't necessary to know Greek syntax to understand the overarching message of the Bible, but it does help to refute error-such as the polytheistic claim that Jesus is "a god" in John 1:1.
You can argue that Gen 1:1 is a plural of excellence, but you can't make the same claim in Gen 1:26 because Hebrew didn't have a plural of excellence in relation to pronouns and verbs. The "US" is the Godhead (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). The "OUR image" is the image of God (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) (we are not made in the image of angels).
While the full revelation that God is triune awaited the fullness of time for the missions of the Son and Spirit (Gal 4:4), hints are given in the Hebrew text for the observant reader.
Indeed, as the non-Christian Jewish scholar Daniel Boyarin says, “Jesus, when he came, came in a form that many, many Jews were expecting: a second divine figure incarnated in a human. The question was not ‘Is a divine Messiah coming?’ but only ‘Is this carpenter from Nazareth the One we are expecting?’ Not surprisingly, some Jews said yes and some said no. Today we call the first group Christians and the second group Jews, but it was not like that then, not at all. Everybody then-both those who accepted Jesus and those who didn't-was Jewish.”[1]
The NT identifies Jesus as Jehovah, the second person of the triune God, by taking OT Jehovah passages and applying them to Jesus: Mar 1:2-3 (citing Isa 40:3 & Mal 3:1), Rom 10:13 (citing Joel 2:32), Phi 2:10-11 (citing Isa 45:23), 2Thes 1:9 (citing Isa 2:10), Heb 1:10-12 (citing Psa 102:25-27), 1Pe 2:3 (Psa 34:8), 3:14-15 (Isa 8:12-13).
[1] Daniel Boyarin, The Jewish Gospels : The Story of the Jewish Christ (New York, NY: New Press, 2012), 1-2.
That Jesus is a god in John 1:1 agrees with the entire scriptural description of Jesus relationship with his father. So argument on Greek syntaxes for and against is only scholarly arguments but the entire scripture settles the issue plainly on the Monotheistic lie against John 1:1. If you argue that because the title "Theoz" (God, god) is used for both Jesus and his father (in NT or OT) mean they are not two separate delties, differing in substance, will completely invalidate the entire scripture (See Psalm 110:1).
Even Genesis 1:26 does not in anyways prove that God and Jesus ( "US" and "OUR", which agrees with Colossians 1:15, 16), mean monotheism of God. Instead, "US" and "OUR" completely and plainly indicate plural, two or more separate beings. Moses need no hiding meaning to understand what US and OUR is - two or more separate beings.
No Revelation regarding Necean creeds are in anyways hidden in the Bible as Revelation. Any teaching not support by entire scripture cannot be any awaiting Revelation to be revealed to apostate Christians, the same ideology the Inquisition took place.
Finally, even Angels in the Bible are sometimes refer as Jehovah. This does not make them Almighty God, because those Hebrews knew well that they are Jehovah's representative and spokes person to him as Jesus was. Genesis 18:1-3. Exodus 4:13. Judges 13:6-8 e.t.c
The distinction between Jesus and his father have always been clear to servants of God at all times, both in OT and NT era. Compare Psalms 110:1 in OT and, check the citation in NT. Mathew 22:43-44. Mark 12:36. Acts 2:34, 35.
@@A-Academy-1 angels are not called Jehovah. Jehovah himself appeared to Abraham.
Second, Col 1:16 says that Jesus is the creator of ALL things, which means he is Jehovah. Read Isaiah 45:24 and 45:12. Jehovah says that he created everything BY HIMSELF, with his own hands, without any help. Therefore, Jesus is Jehovah.
In fact, the writer to the Hebrew cites Psalm 102:25, which is about Jehovah creating all things, and says this Jehovah is Jesus (Hebrews 1:10).
As for psalm 110, Jesus raised this verse with the Pharisees in Mat 22 to show them that their conception of the messiah was wrong-the messiah was Jehovah. Read psalm 110:1, then read psalm 16:2 and tell me, who is David’s Lord?
If you propose that if you let them witness to you, you will be allowed to witness to them. I haven't seen any JW's since them over ten years ago.
The one question I would ask a Jehovah's Witness is --- "What did you see Jehovah do?"
I answered the door in a towel and told them I was very, very gay. Never saw them again
A number of years back, I kept one busy talking for two hours on a hot July day. I kept them in my front yard, in the heat of the sun while we talked. I'm a fair hand around a bible, and I was twisting this person head in a knot. All the time we talked it was hot out, 90 something. I sat on my porch while they stood, I drank ice tea and I didn't offer them any. I was never rude, not did I belittle there beliefs, I just enjoyed showing them how little they knew and how little I cared. They never knocked on my door again.
As someone who grew up as a witness, finding out The Trinity is in the bible and a true Christian belief blew me away. I believe in it now, even if I can't fully wrap my head around it. Just knowing there's biblical truth to it is enough for me 😅
Jehovah's are required to reach out to a certain number of people per day. When they come to my door I tell them I appreciate what you are doing but I like my religion. Have a nice day.
This video causes me to reminisce about my childhood in the late 50s and most of the 60s. I went to a local fundamentalist church all through their Sunday school program from pre-school to college. One of the most active teachers in the program was Mrs. Goldman a very caring but strict teacher who had grandchildren close to my age that I was close to. The only people Mrs Goldman hated were Jehovah's Witnesses missionaries who would go door to door actively trying to recruit members for their church. In my small town, there was a grapevine that operated very efficiently. It was a well-known fact that Mrs. Goldman disliked the Witnesses members who came calling. When her friends informed her that the Witnesses were in town, she called as many of her friends as she could to warn them about the unwelcome visitors. When the Witnesses knocked on her door she met them with a broom in her hand. Before they could speak Mrs. Goldman would say, " Let me ask you one question. Do you salute the American flag?" When they answered her with an emphatic no she told them As she raised her broom she said fiercely "Then get off of my porch I don't allow anyone on my property that doesn't salute the flag!" You should have seen the witnesses scrambling to get off of the porch as they were convinced she was about to go after them with her broom..Her method of dealing with the Witnesses was much quicker but equally as effective as yours. She never had repeated visits for those who had been thrown off of her property because they were convinced that she meant business. This was so out of character for her because as I said she was a strict but loving teacher that I shall remember for the rest of my days. The moral of the story. "do not mess with a grandmother who brings a broom with her to answer the door"
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It's not religion. It's a personal relationship with God through Jesus Christ and the infilling of the Holy Spirit. For by grace you are saved and not that of yourselves. It is not of works lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8
It is indeed a personal relationship with God through that is most important.
However, can one reject the congregation Jesus is head of, and yet be acceptable to Jesus?
My sisters bungalow became somewhat of a commune for ex JW's in the mid to late 1990's. We would congregate there and smoke weed.
The only question I have for them is : “ Open or closed casket”?
Because if you get to my door, you’re trespassing.
Not if they are invited in.
Matthew 10:14 Wherever anyone does not receive you or listen to your words, on going out of that house or that city, shake the dust off your feet.
For this to happen, Jesus' genuine disciples will have to be going house to house.
I ususlly wave a copy of "Why I am not a Christian" (Bertrand Russell) or "Can people learn to learn?" (Brock Chisholm): they usually scream and run away, one actually crumbled to dust on my doorstep.
Best thing is to open the door naked and tell them you are expecting guests...
My workmate once told, when two JW's (one male and one female) stood in his door: "Okay, woman can come, although she is ugly. You man can go to park and wait couple of hours. Bedroom is there."
I had two women come to my door so went outside and talked with them. I told them I am a born again Christian and that I accepted Jesus so I would Not spend eternity in hell!! They said hell does not exist, I asked them to come back in two weeks to talk with me further. They thought I was going to fall for their stories. When they came back I googled the word hell being mentioned in the Holy Bible, I typed 17 of them down and printed that in double copies and gave each woman a copy of the scriptures!! Once I did that they left and JW's will not come to my door!!!
In the 1980s, one of my best friends was a Wiccan High Priestess. And while neither she, nor Wiccans, generally, believed in the existence of Satan, she had a sense of humor, and had named her black cat, "Satan." She told me how one day, the JWs came a-knocking. She let them in. After she realized what they were up to, she called out to her cat, "Satan! Oh, SATAN!" The cat went, "YEEE-OWL!" The JWs ran like Hell!
Fairy stories no doubt.
@@tongakhan230 Actually I can't personally confirm that story, because it happened before I met her. But we DID have some experiences together which were REAL, and quite wild, involving paranormal events.
@@Pootycat8359 : Satan and his demons run when JWs come around.
James 4:7 Therefore, subject yourselves to God; but oppose the Devil, and he will flee from you.
Dabbling in the occults is a dangerous thing.
Deuteronomy 18:10 There should NOT BE FOUND IN YOU anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, anyone who employs divination, anyone practicing magic, anyone who looks for omens, a sorcerer, 11 anyone binding others with a spell, anyone who CONSULTS SPIRIT MEDIUM medium or A FORTUNE TELLER, or anyone who inquires of the dead. 12 For whoever does these things IS DETESTIBLE to Jehovah, and on account of these detestable practices Jehovah your God is driving them away from before you. 13 You should prove yourself blameless before Jehovah your God.
When I don’t feel up to talking to them, I asked them to join me in prayer before we get into talking . They leave
My friend is JW and told me he goes to the nice homes because he thinks someday it might be his. That is a major selling point he tried on me. I just laugh at the thought of it.
It seems your friend has much to work on. Being materialistic it a trait of this Satanic word.
(1 John 2:15-17) Do not love either the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him; 16 because everything in the world-the desire of the flesh and the desire of the eyes and the showy display of one’s means of life-does not originate with the Father, but originates with the world. 17 Furthermore, the world is passing away and so is its desire, but the one who does the will of God remains forever.
That mindset isn’t necessarily due to your friends beliefs.I can recall a time when some Christians were naming it a claiming it.
If they're adults - and they have a brain - they're *not* victims. They make their own choices - and are responsible for that choices, along with every consequence that comes with it.
I tell them thank you but I'm gay. They just blink, smile gamely and scurry away, forgetting to leave a tract.
I've had two JW's try to school me on the trinity, saying that there is no mention of the three ever being together at the same time. I told them the story of Jesus's baptism, and they soon found excuses to leave and they never came back.
The great 'litmus' test is always who Jesus is. Ask : Is Jesus Lord or is He not? The second question is 'Did Jesus come in flesh?' JWs don't believe this. Christians believe that God came in the flesh (John 1) - the Incarnation is central to the Christian Faith. JWs believe that Jesus is A son of God. Christians believe that Jesus is THE Son of God. God with us- Emmanuel.
In Revelation 22, Jesus states that he is the ‘…alpha and omega, the first and last, the beginning and the end.’ This refutes their argument that Jesus is merely an Angel.
Recall the old song: Hit The Road Jack and Don’t Come Back No More!
I always ask them if they can answer a question can you confess to me that Jesus Christ is your Lord and savior?then I will listen to you?
Any time a person rings my door bell that I do not know I always remember a chore I need two people to complete and greet that person by loudly pronouncing that I'm so happy they came along at just the right moment to volunteer to help me lift the heavy object or climb the precariously perched ladder or do something else that they will regret ringing my doorbell.
My experiemce with JW's was.....they tried to tell me that Jesus was a ''creation'' of God!! I said ''No.....Jesus was, and IS GOD in the FLESH!! THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE!!!"
Good work. They definitely ran back to their pamphlets and watchtower articles afterwords to make themselves feel better
A Hari Krishna interrupted my brother-in-law at breakfast one Sunday morning by knocking at the door. When he answered the door the Krishna asked "Excuse me sir. Have you ever heard of Krishna consciousness?". My brother-in-law responded while balling his fist " No, but have you ever heard of Krishna unconsciousness?" and slammed the door in the guys face!
My experienced is different...while waiting for my nephew at home... ( he will take a look at my car engine )I decided to take a shower...while on the shower...I heard knocks on the front door...I cover my self with a towel...believing 100 % its my nephew...run to open the door...when I open the door...there's 2 "little pig" ...one ask me if they can talk to me....I said I'm taking a shower...and I'm wet and dripping....She said !!! THAT'S OK !....I tried to slam the door..she hold it back...she said its only a few minutes about God...I slam the door hard...( holding someone's private door to keep from closing is very rude....then she want to talk about God...to a half naked ...wet ...dripping guy ....piss me off.
A JW held a door from being closed????
Fairy tales never cease.
When JWs come to my house,
l'll question them forever,
until they say "We gotta go"....Love it !
Questioning them is good if there is a desire to learn what the Bible teaches.
If anyone knew the TRUTH they will be going house to house with JWs.
Others sitting at home trying to make the lives of JWs miserable achieves what?
Ezekiel 2:7 You must speak my words to them, whether they listen or not, for they are a rebellious people.
@tongakhan230 no brother, you believe in an anti christ religion that distorts everything from the original texts to meanings of those texts. I would reccomend doing research outside of your "watchtower" network, and reading a real bible version, not the one made to support your liar founders doctrines
In researching the organization's history I pointed out the many changes.....in some cases back and forth. Usually based on who is running things at that time. I have some of their books dated from 1960's to 2000's . This can not be explained away as "New Light".
Two of the hottest young women I have ever seen came to the door representing JW. I listened enraptured and encouraged them to preach to me. I a agreed with everything they said, polite devil that I am. One of them said "Can I come back later to discuss this further?" Just then my wife inquired from the kitchen who was at the door and I figured it was best for the young lady to come back.
The last time they showed up at my door, a woman asked me if she could talk about the bible. I asked, which bible are you talking about? Then I told her to google changes made to the bible that support JW, along with other changes to bible previsions. I explained to her why I believe the KJV is the only one that preserves Gods word. She seemed stunned and speechless. I turned around and went back inside.
I asked once if I could pray for them. They acted as if I had thrown hot water on them and left. The second visit I just started praying out loud for them that God would release them from this error of belief. They left also.