Exactly. True Star Wars is anything pre-Disney but here's hoping Disney comes up with something cool for once that isn't rehashed a million times from another franchise like Marvel or some crap. Edited typo.
The SFX, The voice acting, Music, story, dialogue.... within the 1st 10 mins of listening to this, I feel like a kid again watching Empire. An understatement to say that Disney missed the mark. Big Time. Edit : Yeah, 25 mins in... I wish the world was blessed with this as the 7th movie. It would've been tough with the actors being older, but I'm sure they could've figured something out. The Characters are exactly how they should be. This is Star Wars
Could've easily moved the plot 30 years into the future instead of 5, and you could've easily added characters like Finn and Rey to handle the action the retirement age rebels may not be volunteering for at the same rate they used to. Yeah, Star Wars is dead. It was mismanaged by incompetent, bumbling arrogant fools. And it hurts.
@@mr_rebornKyle ren is a good character, the Force Dyad is really cool concept and Rey might be a better character in her new movies that are planned. I definitely wish Kylo REN wasn’t dead…maybe he isn’t, or maybe he is and Ben Solo lives again, free of the Force Dyad that turned him to the Dark
@@CitizenScott Star Wars no longer exists. What you get now is a perversion of star wars. They took some elemets from star wars and created a whole new universe to make a crappy imitation.
The funny thing is how this is considered one of the more divisive stories. Like... this is the low tier legends writing. Now compare it to the high tier writing of the Disney Canon
A story where Palpatine comes back but in a meaningful way picking up on Plagueis, Bad Batch, and Mandalorian lore, completely removing Exogol from the equation would be amazing
You know despite the Emperor coming back being somewhat a disappointment, for this type of story I don't think it's that terrible, nor do I think it completely destroys Anakin's sacrifice. First off, Luke didn't join Palpatine because he became corrupted, he only did it to figure out a way to destroy the Emperor's Cloning Plan and tear down everything from the inside. While he does do some really stupid things and it caused all of his friends to feel betrayed, he eventually gains their trust again. Plus he retains all of his growth from ROTJ, if he didn't then I think this story definitely would deserve all of the hate it gets. There's also the Emperor himself. Remember this was written 8 years before Phantom Menace was filmed and published in the theaters, so nobody else knew where the franchise was heading! I honestly think Tom had very little to go off of the Emperor because he didn't know his whole background. Just because the Emperor was dead and the Second Death Star was destroyed, didn't mean peace was fully brought to order since there are still some Imperial supporters who refuse the New Republic's rules! Now that the Prequels are out, we can apply all the info from the Force from there, the Clone Wars and the KOTOR games, it does add some semblance into how the Emperor could come back. He did technically died as his original body was destroyed from the Death Star explosion, but before then, who's to say he tried some ritual that allowed his essence to live on? Plus it also helps that if he lost his new weapons, and his cloning facility got destroyed, Palpatine is essentially on the losing end, especially when the Second volume shows that his 'Perfect' Body was beginning to deteriorate. Plus they also play around with the concept from EP6 of Leia becoming a Jedi. When her and Luke confronted the Emperor in this arc, both with Lightsabers in hand, that to me was amazing! This is why I feel like Anakin's sacrifice wasn't a waste, it wasn't just his destiny to destroy the Emperor, it was also to pass on the torch of bringing balance to the Force through his Children and their next generation! Again, I know some people don't like this Arc and they probably won't accept what I'm saying, which is fine. If you still don't like it, then that's okay, it's your opinion. But I would like to at least see why others do without the whole notion of Palpatine coming back, because again, this was written in 1991, 8 years prior to EP1! Also if I'm gonna be frank, I personally think this whole thing was a better Palpatine coming back story than the **** done in Rise of Skywalker, where Disney and crew didn't understand the notion Dark Empire had beside the main highlight of it. Plus at least with Dark Empire, with it taking 6 years instead 20-30 to reveal Palpatine's return. Plus this comic seems to have been written with passion and process unlike the Garbage fest that was the Sequel Trilogy (specifically Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker)!
It's just too bad that Lucas didn't believe in his story enough to do the prequels from 1987 to 1993, and if he chose to make the 'sequel films', he could have done episodes 7 to 9 from 1997 to 2003, and be the one who made the entire series. Instead, he decides to put the Star Wars story aside, and for what? Howard The Duck? However, despite having Lucas abandon his story, others took up that story through novels like 'Heir To The Empire' (1992) and through Dark Horse Comics 'Dark Empire' (also 1992). Is it really surprising that Lucas used concepts from these novels and comics to make the prequels. Disney is just another example of the many fans that wanted to make those amazing stories and bring them to into canon, like Grand Admiral Thrawn.
While I didn't end up disliking the rise of Skywalker I am a bit disappointed they didn't take from dark empire for story's, as when I heard Palestine was coming back I got excited hoping they were gonna mimic dark empire! This was the first star wars comic I read, so it holds a special place to me.
I made it an hour and 40 minutes without commenting. But Han Solo constantly audibly choking at that one part genuinely made me laugh. Also appreciate this video. I was genuinely surprised it wasn’t robot audio too. I’m so used to it. Glad there was visuals to go with it too (even if I treat these sort of thing mostly as audiobooks).
I only recently discovered the audio dramas, and I was just thinking that someone should combine them with the comic book images. Thanks for creating this!
Damn that final line about Leia's third son going to be a great Jedi hurts knowing his fate 🥲 atleast Anakin Solo gets a heroic death as a great Jedi, can't say the same for Jacen 😔
Been listening to this since it was on cassette in 90s. This is... this is so well balanced. It's terrific, and really injects more life into what is a usually stiff but enjoyable performance. You've smoothed that out. Your selections were often surprising and spot on. Well done; the addition of more expansive score material genuinely enhances the drama.
Here's (almost) everything that was taken from Dark Empire and used in the new Disney Star Wars movies. List will not mention anything from Dark Empire 2 and 3. If you have any more then comment below! 1. Palpatine returning via cloning 2. Secret world of the Sith: Byss and Exogol 3. Force Projection 4. Invincible planet destroying weapons, ultimately destroyed by a droid: R2 and World Devestators, BB8 and Xyston-class Star Destroyers 5. Hyperspacing out of the planet's atmosphere (happened in Rogue One) 6. "Looks like half the galaxy's arrived Lando" Mirroring Lando bringing in half the galaxy in Episode IX 7. Maz Kanata is basically Vima Da Boda (Handing a lightsaber to the hero) 8. The Emperor's force possession 9. Tobias Beckett from Solo is basically Mako 10. The return of the Empire (though that was bound to happen in a sequel trilogy) 11. The New Republic loses their capitol: Courscant and Hosnian Prime 12. Instead of the Empire fleeing to the unknown regions, they flee to the galactic core 13. The Emperor is destroyed by the heroes redirecting his dark side power back towards him. 14. A Skywalker is seduced by The Emperor and is redeemed in the end 15. Having to go on a mini-adventure in order to access the Sith world 16. Lightsaber giving visions. 17. The Eclipse Star Destroyer (cheating a bit since it was only used in the cancelled Episode IX: Duel of the Fates)
handing a lightsaber to the hero doesn't make them the same character. if that's the case, ben kenobi is also vima. mako is also not like beckett at all. one is a smuggler, the other works for a crime syndicate as a thief. Mako lives and is from correlia and is only stated to be an old friend of han. Beckett is far more influential to han during his formative years, far less of a friend, and actively becomes his enemy toward the end of the movie. Mako does none of these and is nothing more than an empty side character. also the following numbers on your list 4, 14, 15 and 2 are not specific to dark empire and are mostly recycled ideas from the movies or are tropes that you can find in various star wars media. 12 and 6 are also not points of note, because even if they were not included in either stories, it would have changed nothing.
I came looking for a nice alternative to the empire's mess and corporate agenda. Its nice to see others have the same idea. Welcome to the Rebel alliance!
Does anybody besides me notice that even though this came out years before episode 3, Luke Skywalker seemingly did the impossible and landed a crippled cruiser on the surface of coruscant just like his father anakin did during the clone wars? So kriffing awesome! (Be aware the following was based on false info, but is a cool idea if you consider you never see the temple again after the force unleashed) Another thing, the imperial palace is actually the repurposed jedi temple,* which also explains why the dark side is so strong there when Luke is exploring it, aside from the fact that the emperor used to be there. That building is literally haunted. *actually not, they were two different buildings in the expanded universe
@@DIEGhostfish Ah yeah your right I looked it up I thought that was the legends explanation that it was built over the jedi temple much later, which is why you never see it again after the force unleashed. But I guess not. Still it's a cool headcanon idea. Still hard to find the right Canon information sometimes now that Disney has screwed up the expanded universe
Yea imo there's enough open-ended in the timeline that a lot of old EU and disney canon can b reconciled for headcanon (at least across like 1 or 2 stories lmao), so the imperial palace being the old jedi temple could work FOR THIS STORY if u want that in ur headcanon. But there could be another book where they go to both separately and it wouldn't work Star wars is so fun
@@jeezed2950 Eh that would work, but NJO made it very clear the original Jedi Temple and Imperial palace are two different buildings in Enemy Lines and Traitor.
Yes. It was most definitely the first time he died. Anakin’s destiny, the chosen one’s destiny, was to destroy the Sith Order and return the force to balance. Which he did; and his offspring’s destiny to prevent their return, prevent them rising again. Which by and large, and in the end, they did.
He very well could have died before, probably only once or twice during the reign of the empire though. The old sith emperor vitiate used this ability to survive for a long time.
@@AnnatarCarvour lmao. Nice try bud. No, it is not. Lucas literally had the entire storyline written down by the time empire strikes back came out. Nice try fanboy.
@@dazdavis7896 uuuhh im usually pretty chill dude..... He didn't even know if the first movie was gonna succeed Lol FaNBoI he didn't write the prequels an screen play out till few years before 99 He did not have it all planned out by empire strikes back that is why there are inconsistencies in the Prequels an Orginal trilogy story he had a rough draft idea but shit wasn't ironed out till the late 90s
Think the reason this version of Palpatine being a clone works is because he was up against Luke. Luke and Vader’s greatest enemy coming back is a lot heavier than Rey fighting her supposed grandfather that we had no clue about. It just feels random and forced.
HUGE “thank you” to Mr. Poke! I stumbled upon this, & have been listening to the DE saga since May 4th (2024) after the Hot Toys Luke dropped! I just finished Empire’s End. Really thrilled & thankful.
@@Hatzi89 butchered would be more accurate they made a terrible copy of the original trilogy. You can tell the Dark Empire comics are a different story from the original trilogy.
Darth Sidious discovered the secret that his master Darth Plaguies could not. He found a way to cheat death by combining the Midi Chlorians, the dark side and cloning!
We need the Thrawn novels as the next third trilogy, with an X- Wing companion series that runs alongside. The fourth trilogy should be about the Yuuzhan Vong Wars, with some companion series alongside that as well. The fifth trilogy should be about Abeloth, with a series about the joiner crisis before that. I thought it would be cool to petition Elon Musk to buy the rights to Star Wars, and make this a reality. It would be so awesome for Disney to concede failure, and for the relaunch to go off ten times better than their glorified head canon fanfiction.
@@GlomusIridescensi'd support this just more the memes and everyone loosing their minds. I don't think it'd make for good star wars, but it can't get much worse and at least the fanbase drama would be entertainment
@@thedirtbagstash Have you read all the novels that I mentioned? They really are better. What's good for star wars would be returning to being star wars, instead of a fever dream cooked up by people hooked on woke copium
I know this audio was recorded before the Prequels, but i can't stop myself from cringing everytime i hear "CorsKant". lol XD Anyway, thanks a lot for putting this together. It's great!
What I remember so much about this amazing and awesome Star Wars Dark Empire II book is when Luke Skywalker is on the Dark Side and Leia Organa Solo was worried about him it started to remind that those moments were echoing Anakin Skywalker and Padmè Amidala in Revenge Of The Sith
Palpatine surving endor in a clone body on a remote planet with fanatical followers while threatening the galaxy with giant superweapons with the ultimate goal of transferring his consciousness into a young body that can support his power? Good thing disney didnt rip off the EU in any way
The story's just okay and goes a little far in a few places but this comic really stands out due to Kam Kennedy's amazing art, he did all of it himself and it rivals the work of any master. As a comic book "connoisseur" myself I hold this series in high regard, it's unbelievable and goes above and beyond what could just have been another simple tie in story for an existing franchise. Also in this drama Han flirts with Leia in the weirdest most inappropriate moments
These really are top quality, I'm going to enjoy watching all these over the next few days, great picture and crisp sound thank you. Glad I found your channel subbed now, really brings back some good memories before the dark times lol
There’s some ideas in here that they used in the Disney spin offs: -Sidious surviving through cloning - Sidious living on a planet full of star destroyers - Sidious’s ability to make storms - Luke using a force ghost to project himself - Boba Fett surviving the sarlac - Luke training Leia and Hans kid - the first appearance of Holocrons - the two of them defeating the emporer together at the end Not a big fan of this story and definitely not the sequels… just thought it was interesting. …was a fun listen though!! Also funny how they pronounced Corousant
This is the True Canon. The True Star Wars. Heir to the Empire was the only true episode 7 and Dark Empire the only true Episode 9. In the Legends Universe THE FORCE NEVER DIES AND THE JEDI ARE FOREVER! Darth Revan was the Heart of the Force The Jedi Exile was the Death of the Force. Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker was the Chosen of the Force. Luke Skywalker was the Hope of the Force. Jaina Solo was the Sword of the Jedi Cade Skywalker was the Legacy of the Force But Galan Merek the Starkiller was The Force Unleashed!!!!
I remember buying this back in 91 the year I graduated high School. Everything bby was as big a mystery to me. Luke was an archaeologist/historian. All three of them were building a new family whilst building out of the rubble of the (their) past.
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“I wonder why my father turned to the Dark Side…” Well, Luke, how much time you got?
Oh, only some three movie length worth of time.
And a TV show or 2
this is awesome
@@phrasing7166and then after that, we’ve got some of his homies to explain in their shows too
I got a few guide books I’d like to throw into the mix
I cannot thank you enough for uploading these. This and the EU as a whole will always be canon to me!
Exactly. True Star Wars is anything pre-Disney but here's hoping Disney comes up with something cool for once that isn't rehashed a million times from another franchise like Marvel or some crap.
Edited typo.
For me, this is the only Canon. The complete Rey-Palpatine trilogy is garbage, I just ignore that.
@@baronmateo6736 You spoke facts, my friend
They are canon, before the dark times.
@@baronmateo6736 Rogue One, Mandalorian, and Andor have entered the chat
Billy Dee as Lando CANNOT be replaced. His voice is Iconic.
Marc Thompson can do him, and han, and thrawn 🤣
@@kevincowie1740Marc Thompson’s mad voice-matching skills are nothing short of E-P-I-C!
Sure is an inspirational narrator... it feels like something is missing when I listen to any others. Very compelling storytelling!
@@grogu-the-mandalorianThompson deserves to be discussed along with James Earl Jones, as far as SW fans go that listen to books and what not
Dark empire will always hold a special place in my heart as it was my introduction to the EU and helped me discover the post RotJ stories.
Same here bro, honored 2 share this journey with u all.
As an original 1977 fan I was thrilled when this comic was originally published, I have always saw it as the rebirth of Star Wars!
I love it too; this captures that true Star Wars magic.
The SFX, The voice acting, Music, story, dialogue.... within the 1st 10 mins of listening to this, I feel like a kid again watching Empire.
An understatement to say that Disney missed the mark. Big Time.
Edit : Yeah, 25 mins in... I wish the world was blessed with this as the 7th movie. It would've been tough with the actors being older, but I'm sure they could've figured something out. The Characters are exactly how they should be. This is Star Wars
Could've easily moved the plot 30 years into the future instead of 5, and you could've easily added characters like Finn and Rey to handle the action the retirement age rebels may not be volunteering for at the same rate they used to. Yeah, Star Wars is dead. It was mismanaged by incompetent, bumbling arrogant fools. And it hurts.
@@mr_rebornKyle ren is a good character, the Force Dyad is really cool concept and Rey might be a better character in her new movies that are planned.
I definitely wish Kylo REN wasn’t dead…maybe he isn’t, or maybe he is and Ben Solo lives again, free of the Force Dyad that turned him to the Dark
@@DriveLaken 😂 good joke. The only thing that was close was Kylo Ren COULD have been a good character. The rest was nonsense.
When Star Wars was still Star Wars
Star Wars is still Star Wars
@@CitizenScott Star Wars no longer exists. What you get now is a perversion of star wars. They took some elemets from star wars and created a whole new universe to make a crappy imitation.
@@michaelminervini1908 Kinda but also not really. Watch fanedits. A lot of the Disney stuff is actually good when you trim it
@@CitizenScottThe Acolyte says otherwise
@@Chris_Thorndyke was a decent show
the voice actors in this are so spot on its crazy. enough to tell its not the original actors but not by much
hoops?
Well, some of them are. Lando and probably 3PO
@@DIEGhostfish Lando is Billy Der Williams (the original actor) C-3PO is not
@@noalowenstein6741 Ah very good impression then if it's not Daniels.
They did very well to atleast match the inflections and vocal patterns of the original cast I can tell who's who when I'm not looking.
this is the true sequel
I love how these old comic have 200x better writing then modern star wars
Says a lot really.
Better than prequels as well tbh. Also the new Disney books are well written
The funny thing is how this is considered one of the more divisive stories. Like... this is the low tier legends writing. Now compare it to the high tier writing of the Disney Canon
I actually remember this comic as a kid and thought it was bad… but considering what Disney has done these are awesome
Then it must be the voice acting that I find so bad.
Billy. Dee. Williams.
A shame more of the cast didn’t record their character’s dialogue. Nice to hear Canderous Ordo in there!
Billy Dee is great.
Who was Cygan voicing?
@@DIEGhostfish Luke Skywalker
Han kinds sounds like Harrison Ford
A story where Palpatine comes back but in a meaningful way picking up on Plagueis, Bad Batch, and Mandalorian lore, completely removing Exogol from the equation would be amazing
From a logical standpoint this makes sense because it was the Father's destiny to destroy the Sith and his off-springs duty to prevent its return.
Technically to bring balance to the force
love hearing this with the scores, heard this audiotape zillions of times and you just made it better
RIP Tom Veitch. Thank you for writing incredible Star Wars comics and sorry that J.J. Abrams and Dave Filoni have plagiarised your works.
These Star Wars Legends comics are incredible please please continue these stories like Thrawn and Mara Jada
You know despite the Emperor coming back being somewhat a disappointment, for this type of story I don't think it's that terrible, nor do I think it completely destroys Anakin's sacrifice. First off, Luke didn't join Palpatine because he became corrupted, he only did it to figure out a way to destroy the Emperor's Cloning Plan and tear down everything from the inside. While he does do some really stupid things and it caused all of his friends to feel betrayed, he eventually gains their trust again. Plus he retains all of his growth from ROTJ, if he didn't then I think this story definitely would deserve all of the hate it gets. There's also the Emperor himself. Remember this was written 8 years before Phantom Menace was filmed and published in the theaters, so nobody else knew where the franchise was heading! I honestly think Tom had very little to go off of the Emperor because he didn't know his whole background. Just because the Emperor was dead and the Second Death Star was destroyed, didn't mean peace was fully brought to order since there are still some Imperial supporters who refuse the New Republic's rules! Now that the Prequels are out, we can apply all the info from the Force from there, the Clone Wars and the KOTOR games, it does add some semblance into how the Emperor could come back. He did technically died as his original body was destroyed from the Death Star explosion, but before then, who's to say he tried some ritual that allowed his essence to live on? Plus it also helps that if he lost his new weapons, and his cloning facility got destroyed, Palpatine is essentially on the losing end, especially when the Second volume shows that his 'Perfect' Body was beginning to deteriorate. Plus they also play around with the concept from EP6 of Leia becoming a Jedi. When her and Luke confronted the Emperor in this arc, both with Lightsabers in hand, that to me was amazing! This is why I feel like Anakin's sacrifice wasn't a waste, it wasn't just his destiny to destroy the Emperor, it was also to pass on the torch of bringing balance to the Force through his Children and their next generation!
Again, I know some people don't like this Arc and they probably won't accept what I'm saying, which is fine. If you still don't like it, then that's okay, it's your opinion. But I would like to at least see why others do without the whole notion of Palpatine coming back, because again, this was written in 1991, 8 years prior to EP1! Also if I'm gonna be frank, I personally think this whole thing was a better Palpatine coming back story than the **** done in Rise of Skywalker, where Disney and crew didn't understand the notion Dark Empire had beside the main highlight of it. Plus at least with Dark Empire, with it taking 6 years instead 20-30 to reveal Palpatine's return. Plus this comic seems to have been written with passion and process unlike the Garbage fest that was the Sequel Trilogy (specifically Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker)!
It's just too bad that Lucas didn't believe in his story enough to do the prequels from 1987 to 1993, and if he chose to make the 'sequel films', he could have done episodes 7 to 9 from 1997 to 2003, and be the one who made the entire series. Instead, he decides to put the Star Wars story aside, and for what? Howard The Duck? However, despite having Lucas abandon his story, others took up that story through novels like 'Heir To The Empire' (1992) and through Dark Horse Comics 'Dark Empire' (also 1992). Is it really surprising that Lucas used concepts from these novels and comics to make the prequels. Disney is just another example of the many fans that wanted to make those amazing stories and bring them to into canon, like Grand Admiral Thrawn.
While I didn't end up disliking the rise of Skywalker I am a bit disappointed they didn't take from dark empire for story's, as when I heard Palestine was coming back I got excited hoping they were gonna mimic dark empire! This was the first star wars comic I read, so it holds a special place to me.
This is the story we deserved on the silver screen, not the one we got, You are not alone.
1000%times better than Disney's terrible fanfiction
The fan fiction I've seen is better written, directed etc than all of Disney's vonit
I made it an hour and 40 minutes without commenting. But Han Solo constantly audibly choking at that one part genuinely made me laugh.
Also appreciate this video. I was genuinely surprised it wasn’t robot audio too. I’m so used to it. Glad there was visuals to go with it too (even if I treat these sort of thing mostly as audiobooks).
I love that Billy Dee Williams reprised his role as Lando Calrissian. ❤❤❤
Stuff like this instantly shames anything Disney Star Wars has ever done
I only recently discovered the audio dramas, and I was just thinking that someone should combine them with the comic book images. Thanks for creating this!
“My child will be a great Jedi” Anakin proceeds to be the only of the Solo children without force abilities 😂
The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural
Is it possible to learn this power?
@@MrPoke Not from a Jedi
Miles ahead of the pathetic timeline that Filoni and JJ are forcing upon us.
This feels like a Saturday morning cartoon
Damn that final line about Leia's third son going to be a great Jedi hurts knowing his fate 🥲 atleast Anakin Solo gets a heroic death as a great Jedi, can't say the same for Jacen 😔
Every time I reread Star by Star it hurts knowing what’s going to happen. By the way, you should edit the comment just in case someone gets spoiled
For all his faults, Jacen Solo served the force like his grandfather, service requires sacrifices.😐
To me, the last story of the EU was The Unifying Force so that Jacen never goes down that path.
Been listening to this since it was on cassette in 90s. This is... this is so well balanced. It's terrific, and really injects more life into what is a usually stiff but enjoyable performance. You've smoothed that out.
Your selections were often surprising and spot on. Well done; the addition of more expansive score material genuinely enhances the drama.
The story fans deserve
Here's (almost) everything that was taken from Dark Empire and used in the new Disney Star Wars movies. List will not mention anything from Dark Empire 2 and 3. If you have any more then comment below!
1. Palpatine returning via cloning
2. Secret world of the Sith: Byss and Exogol
3. Force Projection
4. Invincible planet destroying weapons, ultimately destroyed by a droid: R2 and World Devestators, BB8 and
Xyston-class Star Destroyers
5. Hyperspacing out of the planet's atmosphere (happened in Rogue One)
6. "Looks like half the galaxy's arrived Lando" Mirroring Lando bringing in half the galaxy in Episode IX
7. Maz Kanata is basically Vima Da Boda (Handing a lightsaber to the hero)
8. The Emperor's force possession
9. Tobias Beckett from Solo is basically Mako
10. The return of the Empire (though that was bound to happen in a sequel trilogy)
11. The New Republic loses their capitol: Courscant and Hosnian Prime
12. Instead of the Empire fleeing to the unknown regions, they flee to the galactic core
13. The Emperor is destroyed by the heroes redirecting his dark side power back towards him.
14. A Skywalker is seduced by The Emperor and is redeemed in the end
15. Having to go on a mini-adventure in order to access the Sith world
16. Lightsaber giving visions.
17. The Eclipse Star Destroyer (cheating a bit since it was only used in the cancelled Episode IX: Duel of the Fates)
Badass.
handing a lightsaber to the hero doesn't make them the same character. if that's the case, ben kenobi is also vima. mako is also not like beckett at all. one is a smuggler, the other works for a crime syndicate as a thief. Mako lives and is from correlia and is only stated to be an old friend of han. Beckett is far more influential to han during his formative years, far less of a friend, and actively becomes his enemy toward the end of the movie. Mako does none of these and is nothing more than an empty side character.
also the following numbers on your list 4, 14, 15 and 2 are not specific to dark empire and are mostly recycled ideas from the movies or are tropes that you can find in various star wars media. 12 and 6 are also not points of note, because even if they were not included in either stories, it would have changed nothing.
@@ohgoditsdave2837 Your handle is quite fitting.
And this one is so much better
Still better than all of Disney's "canon"
You mean fanfiction
Thrawn trilogy should be made into the 7-9 episode
I came looking for a nice alternative to the empire's mess and corporate agenda. Its nice to see others have the same idea. Welcome to the Rebel alliance!
I mean, it's better than George's canon too 🤣 the entire EU is better than anything George or Disney every made.
@@matthewmitchell9669 the EU also contains everything George made for Star Wars so that's a given.
This was sooooo awesome!! The voices, and sound effects and music!! Thank you so much for the upload!!
You should give Fate of the Jedi audiobooks a try. Great stuff. Compelling storyline.
THIS VOICE ACTING IS *AWESOME!*
In memory of Tom Vetich and John Cygan.
Who was Cygan voicing?
@@DIEGhostfish Luke Skywalker
@@AlexStarOfStarWars Holy shit.
The music adds so much to it! This is awesome!
(1:52:00) MY LEG! The Emperor been saying it before spongbob
Curses! You beat me to it by a whole year.
Does anybody besides me notice that even though this came out years before episode 3, Luke Skywalker seemingly did the impossible and landed a crippled cruiser on the surface of coruscant just like his father anakin did during the clone wars? So kriffing awesome!
(Be aware the following was based on false info, but is a cool idea if you consider you never see the temple again after the force unleashed)
Another thing, the imperial palace is actually the repurposed jedi temple,* which also explains why the dark side is so strong there when Luke is exploring it, aside from the fact that the emperor used to be there. That building is literally haunted.
*actually not, they were two different buildings in the expanded universe
Imperial Palace and Jedi temple are two different buildings in the Legends timeline where this takes place. But I like your earlier explanation
@@DIEGhostfish Ah yeah your right I looked it up I thought that was the legends explanation that it was built over the jedi temple much later, which is why you never see it again after the force unleashed. But I guess not. Still it's a cool headcanon idea. Still hard to find the right Canon information sometimes now that Disney has screwed up the expanded universe
Yea imo there's enough open-ended in the timeline that a lot of old EU and disney canon can b reconciled for headcanon (at least across like 1 or 2 stories lmao), so the imperial palace being the old jedi temple could work FOR THIS STORY if u want that in ur headcanon.
But there could be another book where they go to both separately and it wouldn't work
Star wars is so fun
@@jeezed2950 Eh that would work, but NJO made it very clear the original Jedi Temple and Imperial palace are two different buildings in Enemy Lines and Traitor.
Never stop doing what you're doing, man.
Who knew Billy Dee was such an awesome voice actor
THIS IS AMAZING. Thanks for all of your hard work. May The Force be with You.
I love this simply because coruscant was, for the first time I’ve ever heard- pronounced “Corus-cant”
Anytime a Coruscanti is feeling ambitious their downer friend says “it’s caller coruscant not coruscan”
I had no idea this is where the devastators came from. I loved that mission in rogue squadron 😲
Yes. It was most definitely the first time he died. Anakin’s destiny, the chosen one’s destiny, was to destroy the Sith Order and return the force to balance. Which he did; and his offspring’s destiny to prevent their return, prevent them rising again. Which by and large, and in the end, they did.
He very well could have died before, probably only once or twice during the reign of the empire though. The old sith emperor vitiate used this ability to survive for a long time.
This graphic novel is older then the chosen one and Lucas prequel storyline
@@AnnatarCarvour lmao. Nice try bud. No, it is not. Lucas literally had the entire storyline written down by the time empire strikes back came out. Nice try fanboy.
@@dazdavis7896 uuuhh im usually pretty chill dude..... He didn't even know if the first movie was gonna succeed Lol FaNBoI he didn't write the prequels an screen play out till few years before 99
He did not have it all planned out by empire strikes back that is why there are inconsistencies in the Prequels an Orginal trilogy story he had a rough draft idea but shit wasn't ironed out till the late 90s
The Yahweh system leads back into the black hole system from a black star that is located in the centre of our Milky Way Galaxy called Abaddon.
This shows you how much Disney messed up.
That's what Han Solo is supposed to sound like! Lol, good work!
Lando is legit Billy Dee Williams.
@@Young.Supernovas I think 3PO is Anthony Daniels too.
Think the reason this version of Palpatine being a clone works is because he was up against Luke. Luke and Vader’s greatest enemy coming back is a lot heavier than Rey fighting her supposed grandfather that we had no clue about. It just feels random and forced.
HUGE “thank you” to Mr. Poke! I stumbled upon this, & have been listening to the DE saga since May 4th (2024) after the Hot Toys Luke dropped! I just finished Empire’s End.
Really thrilled & thankful.
The real continuation of the original Trilogy… Thank you Jedi Grand Master. 😎💯
I wish Disney would have made the sequel trilogy like this or maybe an animated movie of this
Actually... they have. Wasn't the best decision
@@simonfeuerstein5720 Rey doesn't count. She's cringe af
Well the last movie ripped this story off very generously
@@Hatzi89 butchered would be more accurate they made a terrible copy of the original trilogy. You can tell the Dark Empire comics are a different story from the original trilogy.
Great job! Glad you were using my remaster in this way :)
So much better than the sequel trilogy
Darth Sidious discovered the secret that his master Darth Plaguies could not.
He found a way to cheat death by combining the Midi Chlorians, the dark side and cloning!
this is absolute peak legends. the use of episode II mysterious scores is mint
this comics has 32 years. I read it it 1998. It still has way more coherent and influential than an entire so-called new trilogy, on all levels
Excellent work, thank you very much! ❤
Subbed ! This is better then what ever Disney ever has put out ! Amazing work and subbed !
Thank you for this! The audio punches me right in the childhood memories😊
I wore out my cassettes of this!
Bro thank you so much! That was amazing!! Had such a fun Ubereats shift listing to that
Thank you Thank you for helping me . ❤ I'm getting back into Star Wars again. A lot to catch up on!
Episode 8 we deserved... (Ep 7 is Heir of the Empire)
I’d say the stuff with the Solo kids or even Ben Skywalker should have been the sequel trilogy. Still Thrawn and Dark Empire are solid continuations.
We need the Thrawn novels as the next third trilogy, with an X- Wing companion series that runs alongside. The fourth trilogy should be about the Yuuzhan Vong Wars, with some companion series alongside that as well. The fifth trilogy should be about Abeloth, with a series about the joiner crisis before that.
I thought it would be cool to petition Elon Musk to buy the rights to Star Wars, and make this a reality. It would be so awesome for Disney to concede failure, and for the relaunch to go off ten times better than their glorified head canon fanfiction.
@@GlomusIridescensi'd support this just more the memes and everyone loosing their minds. I don't think it'd make for good star wars, but it can't get much worse and at least the fanbase drama would be entertainment
@@thedirtbagstash Have you read all the novels that I mentioned? They really are better. What's good for star wars would be returning to being star wars, instead of a fever dream cooked up by people hooked on woke copium
I know this audio was recorded before the Prequels, but i can't stop myself from cringing everytime i hear "CorsKant". lol XD
Anyway, thanks a lot for putting this together. It's great!
this is just too good, keep it up
This is better than the sequel trilogy by Disney.
What I remember so much about this amazing and awesome Star Wars Dark Empire II book is when Luke Skywalker is on the Dark Side and Leia Organa Solo was worried about him it started to remind that those moments were echoing Anakin Skywalker and Padmè Amidala in Revenge Of The Sith
Palpatine surving endor in a clone body on a remote planet with fanatical followers while threatening the galaxy with giant superweapons with the ultimate goal of transferring his consciousness into a young body that can support his power?
Good thing disney didnt rip off the EU in any way
If you posted this 5 years before Rise of Skywalker, then this comment wouldn’t age long.
… It is like the actual actors are doing all the voice acting.. It’s amazingly perfect voices… Awesome stuff here.
Especially Lando, he sounds almost exactly the same as in the movies.
@@barnowl2655Billy actually reprised his voice but the others were recasts
Idk why I’m just discovering this video, this is great! Well done!
Love that they used the scores from Tie Fighter in this audiobook
This is such a welcome gem in a time of such mediocrity. Thank you friend
This is amazing!!!! I am loving this
What do you think of the big hint of Heir to the empire line in the Ahsoka trailer
The story's just okay and goes a little far in a few places but this comic really stands out due to Kam Kennedy's amazing art, he did all of it himself and it rivals the work of any master.
As a comic book "connoisseur" myself I hold this series in high regard, it's unbelievable and goes above and beyond what could just have been another simple tie in story for an existing franchise.
Also in this drama Han flirts with Leia in the weirdest most inappropriate moments
This more like than other one I listened to, it was all audio dubbed. With the musical score it's even better.
This was awesome! Thanks for uploading it!!
What a trip. It's like old school radio styles . Kudos to all involved. Good job.
Amazing how something like this is so much better than the new trilogy. A perfect example of how money does not equal quality.
this is what the sequel triology should have been!
I had this comic it was really good.
I definitely want to see the battle of mon calamari in battlefront 2017 engine. The vfx, the sfx it would be iconic
Thank you so much for this just recently got into the eu this was amazing!
These really are top quality, I'm going to enjoy watching all these over the next few days, great picture and crisp sound thank you. Glad I found your channel subbed now, really brings back some good memories before the dark times lol
Dark Empire>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rise of Skywaker
This is so much better than the sequels it’s not even funny
This story arc is the best!
OMFG!!! YESSSSSS!!!
THANK YOU FOR THIS!!
soundtracks from tie fighter and 2003 clone wars (respectful golf clap)
I heard a bit of Dark Forces I think.
hey look! REAL sequels! THIS is the sequels my kids will see.
my son and daughter: "whats a rey? you mean jaina??"
Somehow, the emperor has returned...
There’s some ideas in here that they used in the Disney spin offs:
-Sidious surviving through cloning
- Sidious living on a planet full of star destroyers
- Sidious’s ability to make storms
- Luke using a force ghost to project himself
- Boba Fett surviving the sarlac
- Luke training Leia and Hans kid
- the first appearance of Holocrons
- the two of them defeating the emporer together at the end
Not a big fan of this story and definitely not the sequels… just thought it was interesting.
…was a fun listen though!!
Also funny how they pronounced Corousant
Uhhhh, Disney ripped off dark empire, not the other way around...😮
Thanks for this-really enjoyed it. I used to have the collected edition many years ago but gave it away. Don’t remember why! Many good memories.
John Cygan will always be the voice of Luke to me
Uhm...mark Hamill lol
@@ForBraig I think he means for any novelization.
This is brilliant absolutely brilliant and proves that Luke is truly the best and the most proficient Jedi.
This video is the equivalent of walking into an air conditioned store on a 100 degree day. Legends is where true star wars is at, F the Disney Canon.
I remember listening to this on cassette as a kid. This is the true episode 7
No the true episode 7 is heir to the empire
Why are you so awesome with the uploads?!
This came up on my YT feed, watching the video and listening to the characters awesome
This gives me a new hope...
I feel like I love star wars again)
This is the True Canon. The True Star Wars. Heir to the Empire was the only true episode 7 and Dark Empire the only true Episode 9.
In the Legends Universe THE FORCE NEVER DIES AND THE JEDI ARE FOREVER!
Darth Revan was the Heart of the Force
The Jedi Exile was the Death of the Force.
Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker was the Chosen of the Force.
Luke Skywalker was the Hope of the Force.
Jaina Solo was the Sword of the Jedi
Cade Skywalker was the Legacy of the Force
But Galan Merek the Starkiller was The Force Unleashed!!!!
I remember reading this book as a kid I loved it And I miss it
I remember buying this back in 91 the year I graduated high School. Everything bby was as big a mystery to me. Luke was an archaeologist/historian. All three of them were building a new family whilst building out of the rubble of the (their) past.
For the sake of levity, I admit the opening crawl had me muttering "Jeeeeesus Christ" under my breath as it just kept going and going.