John the blonde guy(rhaegar) at the wedding isn't the same blonde guy from s1(viscerys), Rhaegar was never a dick, he was apparently very nice and honorable
Connor Buet That's what I thought; That he was a different character, though they look so similar, that guy that was a dick was way too young to have sired john
I loved Viserys and wish he could have lived longer. He was such an enjoyable villain. But GOT made a mistake making Rhaegar look like Viserys because Dany's brother was a skinny little weasel.
The best part about this season was the Stark children coming back stronger, smarter, wiser, and more powerful. I loved that. Like they've been through so much, they could only return better because of it...
Esteban, if you are an NFL broadcaster you can't make the mistake of thinking the Giants play in SF. It is what we call a disqualifier. If John has no idea that Daenerys had two brothers, he needs to stop doing these Game of Thrones reviews.
Mr. Campea simply revealed himself to be unqualified to be Game of Thrones show reviewer. I guaranteed none of those moderators at Collider have ever made such a mistake.
Ummm. Rhaegar was never a dick lmao. Hes one of the coolest dudes in the series. Just go back and listen to Barriston telling stories about him. Are you thinking of Visery? That's his younger brother.
Has anyone thought maybe tyrion was upset last night because he's worried dany and jon will lead by desire instead of council and the people. This whole series is an ode to the bad decision made for desire and love. Varys and tyrion talk about it many times. He's worried because they just cemented their relationship and it will probably take precedence over everything else in this war. Just a thought
Idk how John can get Viserys and Rhaegar confused when Bran clearly says RHAEGAR. ok they look similar but they were brothers and did look very similar.
vasu patel , I'm really upset that John Campea didn't do his research before posting his video last night. He didn't realize Daenerys had two brothers and he was asking why the brother who married Lyanna Stark was later so mean to Daenerys. I said for season 8, either do your homework or don't do a review show anymore.
Jon isnt a fan he's just a casual watcher. He probably hasnt watched the old seasons in years. Tbh even though I knew it was rhaegar I was shocked how similar he looked to Viserys, it wasnt how i pictured Rhaegar at all. So its not really surprising that the casual watchers are getting confused, they also probably think Rhaegar was the mad king lol
Rhaegar never became a dick buddy get your GOT straight you're thinking of his younger brother Viserys. Rhaegar was loved. Also it's possible Tyrion wasn't jealous but just concerned about the succession after Daenerys. After all he did bring that up in ep 6 and he does drink and know things. Maybe he knows a future mad king is being created at that moment from more Targaryen inbreeding
Did i hear John Campea say "how did he become such a dick?" He actually believes Rhaegar is Viserys ??? These kind of reviews becomes so meaningless for us viewers when the reviewer comes up with bombs like these. Come on John, go back and start with season 1, episode 1, and take it from there.
I was about to write the same thing....It's not Viserys, John, it's Raegar. It's easy to confuse them for a casual fan, since they hired an actor that looks just like the actor that played Viserys....But casual fans usually don't have their own youtube review of the show, lol.
I didn't get the impression Tyrion was feeling regret that Dany is now with Jon. I felt he was thinking, "This reeeaaally complicates things." He just doesn't know yet how much.
About Tyrion, there's all sorts of things that might be going through his head, he could be worrying about things getting more unpredictable, or he could be thinking that the issue of succession is perhaps solving itself, he could be sad for Jorah, or he could be thinking about Cersei who not a moment before had asked for Jon to stay neutral.
I think that Tyrion moment outside of Dany's room wasn't sadness because he can't hook up with her, I think it was something else entirely. Like he either knows something about Jon's parentage or he thinks it could cause some issues between those two houses, armies, etc. That's just my opinion though.
Tyler Willis I felt the same thing...I think he is plotting something with Cersies it was a creepy look it was a little finger in the shadows kinda lurking to me
Tyler Willis my feeling was that he is concerned that the 2 of them becoming romantic could complicate things later on, or distract Dany from what needs to be done. Didn't get the slightest impression that Tyrion is plotting with Cersei. Nothing at all hinted at that
Bryan Kerr technically if we talk about the valonqar prophesy it can be any little brother/sister! It doesn't have to be Jaime, it can be Tyrion, Arya, The Hound...
Daniel Stern I'm so glad Bran revealed how Baelish betrayed Ned from back in season one. That was the moment Littlefinger could go and royally fuck himself.
Newest theory is that Tyrion made a deal with Cersi behind Danys back. That's why cersi agreed so fast. It also explains why Tyrion looked so dismayed at the boat sex. He's afraid Dany will get pregnant. His deal was prob that eventually cersi's unborn child gets the throne if Dany wins.
John, actually even after Roberts death, if you look up the family tree, it still links up that Jon is still heir, through one of Roberts grandparents or something
Thank You! Making Videos and don't know that's Rhaegar Johns dad. How could Dannys younger ass brother be Jons Dad come on It's a totally different person. Also he was to young to be his dad.
Miz Aria ,I'm really upset that John Campea didn't do his research before posting his video last night. He didn't realize Daenerys had two brothers and he was asking why the brother who married Lyanna Stark was later so mean to Daenerys. I said for season 8, either do your homework or don't do a review show anymore.
that guy with the blonde hair in the wedding is raegar, not viserys. viserys is the dick brother who sold danny to drogo. raegar was marrying when danny was just being born i think.
When game of thrones is over I want the show runners to make a 2 season spin off where we get to see Lyanna and rhaegar targareans relationship, the fight between Robert and ned and the mad king and how it all played out
hahahhahahaha. Oh the irony if that were the case. We all know it'll be twins, but they'll be massive because they're actually the zombie mountain's babies. The second (the little brother) will kill her in child birth because it's simply too big to come out.
Tyrion loves Daenerys? I really don't see it. I think his lurking was more about him seeing it causing problems for their cause down the line. Also, everyone knows Cersei and the Mountain have a secret thing going. See the way he looks at her? The baby is his.
Icedragon2k I'm really upset that John Campea didn't do his research before posting his video last night. He didn't realize Daenerys had two brothers and he was asking why the brother who married Lyanna Stark was later so mean to Daenerys. I said for season 8, either do your homework or don't do a review show anymore.
Regarding Tyrion 'creeping' on Jon and Dany, I think it didn't really mean that Tyrion was romantically into Dany. It seemed more like that he looked concerned because of the problems that Jon and Dany getting together could cause (the Northern leaders, the truth about Jon's lineage, power dynamics, etc.).
It's all Tyrion's fault! His stupid plan to convince Cersei cost a dragon. That very dragon is the reason the wall came down. Tyrion is the Jar Jar of game of thrones!
The Ice dragon was just an alternative plot device to bring the wall down. The Night King still wouldve made it past by finding the Horn of Winter (which is mentioned in the books), but using a dragon is cooler for television
In the show no Horn of Winter therefore still Tyrion's fault. Because of him the wall came down, and the undead are marching South to slaughter Innocents.
Ralph Bathan , I'm really upset that John Campea didn't do his research before posting his video last night. He didn't realize Daenerys had two brothers and he was asking why the brother who married Lyanna Stark was later so mean to Daenerys. I said for season 8, either do your homework or don't do a review show anymore.
My question is...how do we know Tyrian isn't conspiring with Cersei? We didn't see the entire exchange between them and she changed her mind so quickly to "look" like she was going to assist in the Great War. That never happens unless quid pro quo! So I wonder if Tyrian didn't make some sort of deal to get her to change her mind? Is it his head on a plate after she helps or did he tell her he was a spy and would turn on Daenerys?
Rebecca Zamora did you see any exclamation points in my comment I wasn't yelling unlike you and I have grown tired of people who make up stupid theories because they want to sound smart.
On Terion's final scene on the boat. I was no wiser than anyone else, but HBO released the "Inside the Episode" this morning where Peter explains, his look of angst is from the political fallout he see's from a romantic relationship between Danny and Jon.
Hey John, that wasn't Dany's brother from season 1. The mad King had 3 kids, Rhaegar (Jon's father), Viserys (the asshole brother in season 1), & Danerys. The actor who played Rhaegar really did look like Viserys though.
Brando J , I'm really upset that John Campea didn't do his research before posting his video last night. He didn't realize Daenerys had two brothers and he was asking why the brother who married Lyanna Stark was later so mean to Daenerys. I said for season 8, either do your homework or don't do a review show anymore.
John, you got confused the white haired guy brother in the wedding scene is Rhaegar not Visicers that got the golden crown. Rhaegar wasnt the dick brother.
+Kal_ed11 But wasn't he played by the same actor? It sure looks like it, I have to look it up... Are the casters saving money by not casting a new dude for that little scene? I REALLY have to look that up! It sure can get a little confusing and they weren't twins, were they? In a way I can understand John getting somewhat confused-excited, but he SHOULD know this little fact.
True, had to go back and hear it again, but that still brings up the question of the Second Sons. With a contract as big as Cersi is gonna offer the company i'm sure the second sons are going to hear about it.
Tyrion didn't get played, he knows it. In the end he wants to protect his family as well. That's why near the end he was staring at Dany's room either feeling bad or jealous.
I am concerned that we didn't "hear" the end of the conversation with Cercie and Tyrion?? What made her "act" like she would actually truce and help fight the White Army?? Then him lurking is weird too. I know he loves Danny but I didn't see it as "Romantic" love. Tyrion is one of my favorite characters but I am not trusting him 100% right now.
I have a feeling the disposed bloodline part won't matter because the whole reason the rebellion happened was from Baratheon wanting to marry Ned's sister and believing she was kidnapped but actually she choose to marry Rhaegar means the rebellion is to a point a lie. I have a feeling we might even have a further twist that Tywin Lannister might have been the one who set those moments in motion as a way of getting his family on the throne.
I love how Littlefinger, the guy who engineered all this chaos, got ended as the wolf pack solidified and worked it like a good triangle offense with Sansa pushing the politics, Bran googling away, and Arya doing what she does best.
So, big Ice Wall turned out to be useless? I really wished it would do something. I mean it was mentioned that it isn't just ice but also ancient magic at the bottom of it.
Usman Syed You sure? If that would be true it would still a bit thin. "Hey guys, we build this wall that should hold for like 10000 years or so, but don't let that guy touch you while goofin off" - I mean i get it. GoT never really got into the fantasy elements of the book/show - they were just part of the world. Just the Fantasy-geek in me that wants more details on the magic n stuff. I'm not satisfied with "cause its there and thats how it is" which is the case in many fantasy worlds and stories, sadly .... :-/
True, but you can hardly compare that. i would imagine the cave being like a bubble. and the nightking was able to press through that by leaving his mark. On the other hand. Walkers appeared on the other side of the wall from the start of the series. And that people at the wall turn if their bodies aren't burned. Which brings me back to my initial point. There is just not enough information on how this stuff works.
Here's my theory around Dany's death. According to the Azor Ahai (prince that was promised) prophecy the only way that he could turn his sword into light bringer was to plunge it into his true love/wife. I think to defeat the night king and become the prince that was promised/ bringer of the dawn Jon (Aegon) will have to kill Dany. This creates lightbringer so he can kill the night king. Therefore as George R. R. Martin said it will have a bittersweet ending.
I never saw anything romantic between Tyrion and Daenerys. He's more concerned with children she might have. He doesn't want a Targaryen dynasty. He trusts her with dragons (just barely) but Targaryen children who will inherit her dragons is another matter completely.
Some of the best scenes in the Finale indeed. Jon Snow & Daenerys Targaryen making sweet love was awesome!! Now what I need to see in GOT S08 would be Tyrion and Sansa reuniting & making passionate love!! Also Jamie defecting from Lannister Army and coming to the side of Daenerys Targaryen to fight his sister & lover Cersie...that will be killer!!!!
Predictions for season 8? I think Jon dies, Jamie kills Cersei, Dany has Jons child and sits on the Iron throne. As for who kills the night king, its anyones guess, although I hope its Jamie. I'm pretty certain that A LOT of the main characters will die though, as George RR Martin said it would be a bitter-sweet ending.
John, my name is JEFFERY PREM, I love your podcasts and also your reviews of GOT, well as other things. This episode reallly blew me away. I give it one my top 5 episodes. Can't wait to see more
Interesting that Tyrion is apparently in love with Daenerys. I had no idea until that scene where he was looking forlorn while she and Jon where gettin' busy. It's seems out of character for Tyrion. He just seems too smart and practical for that.
No I think that was just yet more bad writing by D&D leading to confusion and misinterpretation. I don't believe we're meant to think Tyrion is jealous in that last scene. Probably wary if anything... Who knows though now that the show went full blown fan-fiction.
You missed it. Bron said something to Podrick that will make a difference next season. Bron may be hedging his bets. He may switch sides down the road if Daeneris will meet his price. This may come into play at a crucial moment.
Brittaney Dixon - And she relishes tricking Tyrion. At this point, she'd say just about anything to maintain a psychological hold over her two brothers.
John I know in the flashback Rheagar looked like Visery (The one who sold Danny into marriage) but it was not. She had two brothers. Rheagar was killed by Robert. Visery was killed by Karl Drogo
Okay all the comments are getting the Targaryen family wrong. Goodness. Aerys Targaryen was the king. Rhaegar Targaryen was the son of Aerys. Jon is the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna Stark. She died in childbirth just like Viserys and Daenerys's mother did.
At last Terminator's TV Sarah Connor and a movie Sarah Connor meet! It feels like to me that the Night King is somehow a good guy and what he's doing is actually necessary (Plot Twist).
I think HBO is making the characters do some reunion stuff....because they're not going to see each other again as most of them will die in Season 8. Good for us to see them get together at least once though!
I agree. Jamie/Brienne as well as Arya/Gendry will most likely have more time together in Season 8 because I think they will all be going to winterfell.
You don't have to know everything, but something as simple as distinction between Viserys and Raeghor is not a lot to ask. It's actually common sense. Why would Jons dad be the asshole brother that was abusing Dany in season 1...
Fun Guy He's seems like a casual watcher who does reviews simply to capitalise on its popularity, as opposed to others who review it because they love the content. He's uninformed and overconfident with what he thinks he knows
I think the shot of Tyrion looking at the room where Jon and Dany were is more of a look of regret. Perhaps he made a deal with Cersei that we are not privy to. I don't think he's in love with Dany, but who knows.
Katalabix weren't you just expressing how excited you were for the next season in a comment? And then you expressed your agreeing with that guy who said this was the second best finale. You need to get over it
That scene with Tyrion in the shadows is being overlooked...Tyrion wouldnt get played twice this time he was in on it all..That lutking in the shadows was all to similar to the way little finger would lurk when he was plotting something.....Dont forget this comment when tyrion help his sister to make up for all he has done...
Yes, the Lich King is 10000x more powerful and has a much more powerful army :) and both of them are basically D&D undead, and wherever D&D undead came from :P
I hope they call season 8, season 7 part 2, kind of like what they did with breaking bad. The number 7 just fits so much nicer for the series. That and 13 episodes would be around normal length for a season, especially a conclusion to a series. Just my weird preference, but 7 seasons just feels right
Do you think that Bran is like Dr. Manhattan? How he can see things and has so much knowledge that he becomes less sentimental and less capable of human affection?
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Does campia think Rhegar is Viserys? Rhegar was never a dick
Platerpus7 I think he's confusing the two because of how alike they look in the flash back
John the blonde guy(rhaegar) at the wedding isn't the same blonde guy from s1(viscerys), Rhaegar was never a dick, he was apparently very nice and honorable
+Fransiscus Djaja So true...a let down in casting
Connor Buet That's what I thought; That he was a different character, though they look so similar, that guy that was a dick was way too young to have sired john
Jonathan C. I think it's to different actors just look very very similar
😂As soon as he said that I rushed to the comments to make sure it was clarified 😂
I loved Viserys and wish he could have lived longer. He was such an enjoyable villain. But GOT made a mistake making Rhaegar look like Viserys because Dany's brother was a skinny little weasel.
Where did Gendry go?
The best part about this season was the Stark children coming back stronger, smarter, wiser, and more powerful. I loved that. Like they've been through so much, they could only return better because of it...
John, the guy from the wedding looks a lot like Viserys, but he's actually Rhaegar.
Esteban Canales yeah a lot of people are confused cause both actors in character look very similar
Esteban, if you are an NFL broadcaster you can't make the mistake of thinking the Giants play in SF. It is what we call a disqualifier. If John has no idea that Daenerys had two brothers, he needs to stop doing these Game of Thrones reviews.
yea isnt Rhaegar the one that went to sing to his people
Did John just imply he thinks Rhaegar in this episode was "the dick" Viserys from the first season
Aha! He knows nothing John Campea!
Mr. Campea simply revealed himself to be unqualified to be Game of Thrones show reviewer. I guaranteed none of those moderators at Collider have ever made such a mistake.
Ummm. Rhaegar was never a dick lmao. Hes one of the coolest dudes in the series. Just go back and listen to Barriston telling stories about him. Are you thinking of Visery? That's his younger brother.
Yeah that is what I thought. Viserys and his golden crown ;)
Has anyone thought maybe tyrion was upset last night because he's worried dany and jon will lead by desire instead of council and the people. This whole series is an ode to the bad decision made for desire and love. Varys and tyrion talk about it many times. He's worried because they just cemented their relationship and it will probably take precedence over everything else in this war. Just a thought
Idk how John can get Viserys and Rhaegar confused when Bran clearly says RHAEGAR. ok they look similar but they were brothers and did look very similar.
vasu patel , I'm really upset that John Campea didn't do his research before posting his video last night. He didn't realize Daenerys had two brothers and he was asking why the brother who married Lyanna Stark was later so mean to Daenerys. I said for season 8, either do your homework or don't do a review show anymore.
Jon isnt a fan he's just a casual watcher. He probably hasnt watched the old seasons in years. Tbh even though I knew it was rhaegar I was shocked how similar he looked to Viserys, it wasnt how i pictured Rhaegar at all. So its not really surprising that the casual watchers are getting confused, they also probably think Rhaegar was the mad king lol
Rhaegar never became a dick buddy get your GOT straight you're thinking of his younger brother Viserys. Rhaegar was loved. Also it's possible Tyrion wasn't jealous but just concerned about the succession after Daenerys. After all he did bring that up in ep 6 and he does drink and know things. Maybe he knows a future mad king is being created at that moment from more Targaryen inbreeding
Did i hear John Campea say "how did he become such a dick?" He actually believes Rhaegar is Viserys ???
These kind of reviews becomes so meaningless for us viewers when the reviewer comes up with bombs like these.
Come on John, go back and start with season 1, episode 1, and take it from there.
I was about to write the same thing....It's not Viserys, John, it's Raegar. It's easy to confuse them for a casual fan, since they hired an actor that looks just like the actor that played Viserys....But casual fans usually don't have their own youtube review of the show, lol.
Tyrion loves Dany? Since when?
serban capraru Tyrion does love her, but I think he is more worried that she will listen to Jon rather than him.
I think it's more inspirational love rather than sexual, much like Jorah's love for Dany.
I didn't get the impression Tyrion was feeling regret that Dany is now with Jon. I felt he was thinking, "This reeeaaally complicates things." He just doesn't know yet how much.
The Night King has a dragon BECAUSE OF TYRION... He has been a HOT MESS this season and maybe Dany would be better off cutting him loose.
Tyrion explicitly advised Danerys not to fly North
About Tyrion, there's all sorts of things that might be going through his head, he could be worrying about things getting more unpredictable, or he could be thinking that the issue of succession is perhaps solving itself, he could be sad for Jorah, or he could be thinking about Cersei who not a moment before had asked for Jon to stay neutral.
I think that Tyrion moment outside of Dany's room wasn't sadness because he can't hook up with her, I think it was something else entirely. Like he either knows something about Jon's parentage or he thinks it could cause some issues between those two houses, armies, etc. That's just my opinion though.
Tyler Willis I felt the same thing...I think he is plotting something with Cersies it was a creepy look it was a little finger in the shadows kinda lurking to me
Tyler Willis my feeling was that he is concerned that the 2 of them becoming romantic could complicate things later on, or distract Dany from what needs to be done. Didn't get the slightest impression that Tyrion is plotting with Cersei. Nothing at all hinted at that
Does anyone think in the end (last season sometime) that Jamie kills Cerci , later to be revealed that it's Aria finishing her list.
Bryan Kerr technically if we talk about the valonqar prophesy it can be any little brother/sister! It doesn't have to be Jaime, it can be Tyrion, Arya, The Hound...
Bryan Kerr Arya
Sansa and Arya played Littlefinger. I'm convinced that they and maybe Brann knew all along and played him.
Daniel Stern well brann can see everything
Daniel Stern I'm so glad Bran revealed how Baelish betrayed Ned from back in season one. That was the moment Littlefinger could go and royally fuck himself.
you're confusing Rhaegar with Viserys...Rhaegar was considered by all but Robert Baratheon to be a great man.
Yeah I was wondering what he meant too, but obviously he's confusing the two. They do look similar.
That what happens with incest family, not enough genetic diversity
Joel, what do you mean? Looking similar? That's because they're brothers, not because of incest. Siblings commonly look similar.
I think the Dragon and the Wolf the title refers to are Rhaegar and Lyanna.
Newest theory is that Tyrion made a deal with Cersi behind Danys back. That's why cersi agreed so fast. It also explains why Tyrion looked so dismayed at the boat sex. He's afraid Dany will get pregnant. His deal was prob that eventually cersi's unborn child gets the throne if Dany wins.
John, actually even after Roberts death, if you look up the family tree, it still links up that Jon is still heir, through one of Roberts grandparents or something
That look from Tyrion is not jealousy. It's Guilt. I suspect he done a deal with Cersai. He knows she was not going to keep her promise!!
The guy in the wedding was Rhaegar not Dany's other jerk of a brother
Thank You! Making Videos and don't know that's Rhaegar Johns dad. How could Dannys younger ass brother be Jons Dad come on It's a totally different person. Also he was to young to be his dad.
Miz Aria ,I'm really upset that John Campea didn't do his research before posting his video last night. He didn't realize Daenerys had two brothers and he was asking why the brother who married Lyanna Stark was later so mean to Daenerys. I said for season 8, either do your homework or don't do a review show anymore.
that guy with the blonde hair in the wedding is raegar, not viserys. viserys is the dick brother who sold danny to drogo. raegar was marrying when danny was just being born i think.
John you seriously know too little about the show.
You know nothing John Snow.
When game of thrones is over I want the show runners to make a 2 season spin off where we get to see Lyanna and rhaegar targareans relationship, the fight between Robert and ned and the mad king and how it all played out
Circe's baby will be a dwarf! And she will kill it, losing her last bit of humanity.
hahahhahahaha. Oh the irony if that were the case. We all know it'll be twins, but they'll be massive because they're actually the zombie mountain's babies. The second (the little brother) will kill her in child birth because it's simply too big to come out.
Michael Spiteri lmfao
Tyrion loves Daenerys? I really don't see it. I think his lurking was more about him seeing it causing problems for their cause down the line. Also, everyone knows Cersei and the Mountain have a secret thing going. See the way he looks at her? The baby is his.
The person you saw in the flashback was Rhaegar, Dany's other brother, not Viserys. They used the same wig I think but it's a different actor.
Icedragon2k I'm really upset that John Campea didn't do his research before posting his video last night. He didn't realize Daenerys had two brothers and he was asking why the brother who married Lyanna Stark was later so mean to Daenerys. I said for season 8, either do your homework or don't do a review show anymore.
PhantomOfManyTopics Just really trying to cover your bases with all this copy & paste huh?
Regarding Tyrion 'creeping' on Jon and Dany, I think it didn't really mean that Tyrion was romantically into Dany.
It seemed more like that he looked concerned because of the problems that Jon and Dany getting together could cause (the Northern leaders, the truth about Jon's lineage, power dynamics, etc.).
I loved when Little Finger finally got his just desserts
It's all Tyrion's fault! His stupid plan to convince Cersei cost a dragon. That very dragon is the reason the wall came down. Tyrion is the Jar Jar of game of thrones!
The Ice dragon was just an alternative plot device to bring the wall down. The Night King still wouldve made it past by finding the Horn of Winter (which is mentioned in the books), but using a dragon is cooler for television
In the show no Horn of Winter therefore still Tyrion's fault. Because of him the wall came down, and the undead are marching South to slaughter Innocents.
You clearly dont understand the point I was trying to make
And Tyrion pleaded with Dany to not go North with the dragons...
I thought the guy that played Rhaegar was also the guy that played Viserys, then I realized they're targaryens and then can look the same
Ralph Bathan , I'm really upset that John Campea didn't do his research before posting his video last night. He didn't realize Daenerys had two brothers and he was asking why the brother who married Lyanna Stark was later so mean to Daenerys. I said for season 8, either do your homework or don't do a review show anymore.
My question is...how do we know Tyrian isn't conspiring with Cersei? We didn't see the entire exchange between them and she changed her mind so quickly to "look" like she was going to assist in the Great War. That never happens unless quid pro quo! So I wonder if Tyrian didn't make some sort of deal to get her to change her mind? Is it his head on a plate after she helps or did he tell her he was a spy and would turn on Daenerys?
Rebecca Zamora That's exactly what I was thinking and not enough people are pointing this out
Rebecca Zamora fuck off it's not happening stop with bullshit theories.
Rebecca Zamora someone a tad emotional when they know what they won't get what they want.
Dynamo HD No-can't stand people like you...obnoxious and rude!
Rebecca Zamora did you see any exclamation points in my comment I wasn't yelling unlike you and I have grown tired of people who make up stupid theories because they want to sound smart.
On Terion's final scene on the boat. I was no wiser than anyone else, but HBO released the "Inside the Episode" this morning where Peter explains, his look of angst is from the political fallout he see's from a romantic relationship between Danny and Jon.
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It was Danny's eldest brother in the flashback -- the one who got killed by Robert Baratheon - not the one who got killed by melted gold
So therefore NOT a dick lol
Hey John, that wasn't Dany's brother from season 1. The mad King had 3 kids, Rhaegar (Jon's father), Viserys (the asshole brother in season 1), & Danerys. The actor who played Rhaegar really did look like Viserys though.
Rhaegar was said to look much like Viserys, but taller.
Brando J , I'm really upset that John Campea didn't do his research before posting his video last night. He didn't realize Daenerys had two brothers and he was asking why the brother who married Lyanna Stark was later so mean to Daenerys. I said for season 8, either do your homework or don't do a review show anymore.
John, you got confused the white haired guy brother in the wedding scene is Rhaegar not Visicers that got the golden crown. Rhaegar wasnt the dick brother.
+Kal_ed11 But wasn't he played by the same actor? It sure looks like it, I have to look it up... Are the casters saving money by not casting a new dude for that little scene? I REALLY have to look that up! It sure can get a little confusing and they weren't twins, were they? In a way I can understand John getting somewhat confused-excited, but he SHOULD know this little fact.
Hummingbirder1 when you watch the scene again, you will see it is a different actor. They do look alike though.
Just looked it up, not the same actor. Shame on me to not check before commenting. My name might as well be Jon Snow, as I indeed knew nothing...
Dany: I can't have children
Jon: Challenge accepted 😉
Haven't heard this brought up but, Cersi plans to hire the Second Sons to fight for her. The leader of the Second Sons is in love with Dany.
No, she intends to hire the Golden Company. #WarElephants
True, had to go back and hear it again, but that still brings up the question of the Second Sons. With a contract as big as Cersi is gonna offer the company i'm sure the second sons are going to hear about it.
Best season finale of Game Of Thrones. Definitely topped last season's finale!
Now Dany knows about Jon 's secret premature ejaculation problem.
Tyrion didn't get played, he knows it. In the end he wants to protect his family as well. That's why near the end he was staring at Dany's room either feeling bad or jealous.
11:25 When did the Night King lay siege on the Wall using giants? IIRC we've only seen the Wildlings doing that.
Jure Mugerli That's what he's talking about, when the Wildlings attacked the wall. They had Giants.
Regardless they still Wouldn't have been able to pass the walls magic, like how they Couldn't pass the three-eyed ravens hideout
"dragon breathing ice" lol how the hell would that have melted the wall down😂😂
Daniel mj it was blue fire.
I am concerned that we didn't "hear" the end of the conversation with Cercie and Tyrion?? What made her "act" like she would actually truce and help fight the White Army?? Then him lurking is weird too. I know he loves Danny but I didn't see it as "Romantic" love. Tyrion is one of my favorite characters but I am not trusting him 100% right now.
Tammi Dyer what if he betrayed them and it was act his plan to get the golden army?! I'm really concerned for him.
Me too. I feel there was a reason we didn't hear the end of the conversation!! ughhhh!!!!
Since the dragon is breathing blue fire I don't think it can actually kill Dany, at least not with the fire. I guess it could impale her or something.
"Battle of the Pregnant Queens" is the title of the next season finale.
I have a feeling the disposed bloodline part won't matter because the whole reason the rebellion happened was from Baratheon wanting to marry Ned's sister and believing she was kidnapped but actually she choose to marry Rhaegar means the rebellion is to a point a lie. I have a feeling we might even have a further twist that Tywin Lannister might have been the one who set those moments in motion as a way of getting his family on the throne.
I love how Littlefinger, the guy who engineered all this chaos, got ended as the wolf pack solidified and worked it like a good triangle offense with Sansa pushing the politics, Bran googling away, and Arya doing what she does best.
John I think you confused Rhaegar with Viserys
Liked this season, too rushed (except the finale), but overall I enjoy where it's going.
Epic ending. Can't wait for season 8. GoT is fucking quality at its finest.
So, big Ice Wall turned out to be useless? I really wished it would do something. I mean it was mentioned that it isn't just ice but also ancient magic at the bottom of it.
Usman Syed You sure? If that would be true it would still a bit thin. "Hey guys, we build this wall that should hold for like 10000 years or so, but don't let that guy touch you while goofin off" - I mean i get it. GoT never really got into the fantasy elements of the book/show - they were just part of the world.
Just the Fantasy-geek in me that wants more details on the magic n stuff. I'm not satisfied with "cause its there and thats how it is" which is the case in many fantasy worlds and stories, sadly .... :-/
True, but you can hardly compare that. i would imagine the cave being like a bubble. and the nightking was able to press through that by leaving his mark.
On the other hand. Walkers appeared on the other side of the wall from the start of the series. And that people at the wall turn if their bodies aren't burned.
Which brings me back to my initial point. There is just not enough information on how this stuff works.
It was magic that broke magic. The dragons are magic. The wall has magic.
Here's my theory around Dany's death. According to the Azor Ahai (prince that was promised) prophecy the only way that he could turn his sword into light bringer was to plunge it into his true love/wife. I think to defeat the night king and become the prince that was promised/ bringer of the dawn Jon (Aegon) will have to kill Dany. This creates lightbringer so he can kill the night king. Therefore as George R. R. Martin said it will have a bittersweet ending.
Enjoyed the live stream, this was a great setup up episode for next season.
I'm fine with the seasons being shorter as long as we're getting this kind of quality. Keep up the good work, Dan and Dave!
love this channel...can't believe we have to wait another year for game of thrones :) fan from indianapolis
I never saw anything romantic between Tyrion and Daenerys. He's more concerned with children she might have. He doesn't want a Targaryen dynasty. He trusts her with dragons (just barely) but Targaryen children who will inherit her dragons is another matter completely.
He doesn't know the half of it yet :)
10:53, what do you mean with Rhaegar Targaryen becomes such a dick? he never was a dick...
Joel Alexander Vazquez Ketzer history is written by the victors. Campea has fallen for that fake history
I think that John got Rhaegar confuse with Viserys. XD
Ricardo Barroso was it the same actor?
that was before... I agree with Ricardo Barroso,, Campea may have been confusing the 2 brothers
Wilf Scolding - Rhaegar Targaryen and Harry Lloyd - Viserys Targaryen
john your thinking of viserys . that was rhaegar who married lyanna . he was danys much older brother who she never met .only heard of
Some of the best scenes in the Finale indeed. Jon Snow & Daenerys Targaryen making sweet love was awesome!! Now what I need to see in GOT S08 would be Tyrion and Sansa reuniting & making passionate love!! Also Jamie defecting from Lannister Army and coming to the side of Daenerys Targaryen to fight his sister & lover Cersie...that will be killer!!!!
One knight king drops a wall the other trying to build one
Aegon Targaryen!
Predictions for season 8? I think Jon dies, Jamie kills Cersei, Dany has Jons child and sits on the Iron throne. As for who kills the night king, its anyones guess, although I hope its Jamie. I'm pretty certain that A LOT of the main characters will die though, as George RR Martin said it would be a bitter-sweet ending.
Cersei's consistency with that truce reminded me of Campea and Collider.
Am I the only one who missed Melissandre in that reunion? It would have been great she explaining her point of view of the White walkers situation.
I really wanted Arya to look at Sansa and say "Sooooooo... Can i take his face?"
John, my name is JEFFERY PREM, I love your podcasts and also your reviews of GOT, well as other things. This episode reallly blew me away. I give it one my top 5 episodes. Can't wait to see more
Interesting that Tyrion is apparently in love with Daenerys. I had no idea until that scene where he was looking forlorn while she and Jon where gettin' busy. It's seems out of character for Tyrion. He just seems too smart and practical for that.
beselbic I don't think he is in love with her. I think he knows Jon is a Targaryen. Remember 'he drinks and he knows things'
Oh, didn't think about that. That would make more sense and would align more with Tyrion's character.
I mean he falls for people easily. But I don't think that's automatically what that meant, tho it was implied
No I think that was just yet more bad writing by D&D leading to confusion and misinterpretation. I don't believe we're meant to think Tyrion is jealous in that last scene. Probably wary if anything... Who knows though now that the show went full blown fan-fiction.
I agree. I read that scene as he's concerned its only going to cause trouble.
That chick in the red needs to clear her throat.
what if tyrion know of cersei's plan
World of Thrones: Wrath of the Night King. New Expansion in season 8 XD XD I mean, the ending was like 90% of Lich king from Warcraft ....
No Tyrion was about to tell her something about his meeting with Cersei. That look on his face told it. Something bad
You missed it. Bron said something to Podrick that will make a difference next season. Bron may be hedging his bets. He may switch sides down the road if Daeneris will meet his price. This may come into play at a crucial moment.
Cersi will be the Knights Queen!
Not blue fire but #FrostFire. Credit to Ken from Collider Throne talk.
Just because Cersai says she's pregnant doesn't mean it's true.
Julian McQueen I was thinking the same thing. She is really sneaky. And if she lied about one thing, then she'll lie about another.
Brittaney Dixon - And she relishes tricking Tyrion. At this point, she'd say just about anything to maintain a psychological hold over her two brothers.
I thought the targaryn line was still there because Roberts Baratheons grandmother was a targaryn
John I know in the flashback Rheagar looked like Visery (The one who sold Danny into marriage) but it was not. She had two brothers.
Rheagar was killed by Robert. Visery was killed by Karl Drogo
So John is Danny's nephew?
Yes
Aegon*
And lover
So Cerci is just "relentless" instead of stupidly insane....
Okay all the comments are getting the Targaryen family wrong. Goodness. Aerys Targaryen was the king. Rhaegar Targaryen was the son of Aerys. Jon is the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna Stark. She died in childbirth just like Viserys and Daenerys's mother did.
that ending man....epicness and i read season 8 is going to be 6 episodes. each one could be long
At last Terminator's TV Sarah Connor and a movie Sarah Connor meet!
It feels like to me that the Night King is somehow a good guy and what he's doing is actually necessary (Plot Twist).
I was wishing that the dragon spit frozing ice instead of blue fire
I think HBO is making the characters do some reunion stuff....because they're not going to see each other again as most of them will die in Season 8. Good for us to see them get together at least once though!
I wanted more Jamie and Brienne reunion, it was too passive imo. We better get a proper Arya/Gendry reunion in season 8 too!
I agree. Jamie/Brienne as well as Arya/Gendry will most likely have more time together in Season 8 because I think they will all be going to winterfell.
I love John and 90% of his content, but man do I struggle with your Game of Thrones stuff. I feel like you're just not informed enough on it
Matt Ireland he definitely thinks that Wedding scene was Viserys when it's clearly Raeghor if you caught that.
Oh I definitely caught that
You don't have to know everything, but something as simple as distinction between Viserys and Raeghor is not a lot to ask. It's actually common sense. Why would Jons dad be the asshole brother that was abusing Dany in season 1...
Matt Ireland 100% agree. Just doesn't understand it as reviewers should
Fun Guy He's seems like a casual watcher who does reviews simply to capitalise on its popularity, as opposed to others who review it because they love the content. He's uninformed and overconfident with what he thinks he knows
What really sucks is we only got 6 more episodes and the show will come to an end
Was damn nervous and thought Cerci was gonna have Jamie killed
I think the shot of Tyrion looking at the room where Jon and Dany were is more of a look of regret. Perhaps he made a deal with Cersei that we are not privy to. I don't think he's in love with Dany, but who knows.
Was stressing at the end we'd see Hodor....
Katalabix
The fuck crawled up your ass this morning?
Aaron Sanders Because they like to fuck with the fans
Katalabix weren't you just expressing how excited you were for the next season in a comment? And then you expressed your agreeing with that guy who said this was the second best finale. You need to get over it
That scene with Tyrion in the shadows is being overlooked...Tyrion wouldnt get played twice this time he was in on it all..That lutking in the shadows was all to similar to the way little finger would lurk when he was plotting something.....Dont forget this comment when tyrion help his sister to make up for all he has done...
Season 8
Game of Thrones: Wrath of the Lich King
Seriously, is there a difference between WoW's Lich King and the Night King?
Daniel Stern probably that Night King's conception came first.
Yes, the Lich King is 10000x more powerful and has a much more powerful army :)
and both of them are basically D&D undead, and wherever D&D undead came from :P
Good point. The only difference I see is that Arthas had a special sword.
Valkyrie Sardo Also Arthas had an arc like Anakin Skywalker. . Good to evil. We don't know a lot about the night king
Zachary Licht I did think Lich King when the dragon came roaring to the wall. Also reminded me of Dany from the 4th episode. Spoils of war
Do you think that The Unburnt Queen Daenerys can be harmed by BLUE fire?
I hope they call season 8, season 7 part 2, kind of like what they did with breaking bad.
The number 7 just fits so much nicer for the series. That and 13 episodes would be around normal length for a season, especially a conclusion to a series.
Just my weird preference, but 7 seasons just feels right
LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE this episode - it was phenomenal ending to the season
Do you think that Bran is like Dr. Manhattan? How he can see things and has so much knowledge that he becomes less sentimental and less capable of human affection?
It was a brilliant episode. 100% agree.
no wonder jon made sure he burned ygritte. he knew there were better things on the way. xD