Ricardo Serrano Yea, that's what I've been trying to find everywhere on RUclips. What this new 4 stroke emd sounds like. There's tons of videos of it, yet, there isn't a single one where I can actually hear the damn thing. My conclusion is, it's the quietest damn 4,000+ hp diesel engine ever made. Seriously, put headphones on and listen to video. They sound like damn electric locomotives running off cantilevers for power.
Adrian Neils I'd say there's a general correlation. But yes, I understand that. It's just a little disheartening as a rail fan to see one of the things that you love so much about trains being curbed. But I understand that the desires of rail fans have absolutely zero influence on the decisions of manufacturers. I believe most rail fans understand that. I hope so anyway.
Hakeem M We are just alike. E Bells are okay, nothing good or bad, but hey, I'd rather have the bad ATSF 3751 recording wayside horn than just the basic buzzer.
E-bells ... just wait until they use a speaker for the horn! Ugh! I hate the E-bells, they sound like crap. And I hate the horn on/off switch ... no nice smooth honking! :(
Funny how the railroads got along without grade crossing horns for well over 150 years and now the FRA says we must use them? How about a different tack, if you ignore the train crossing lights and bell and /or gates and get hit by the train the motorist is responsible for the damage to the railroad. For damn sure railroad trains don't leave the reservation and go hunting automobiles and trucks. I personally ran trains in my career as a locomotive engineer and have to see the idiots every time I go to sleep that died in front of the train I was running. From what one guy that stepped in front of a commuter train at 70 mph and less than 100 feet away to four teenagers playing chicken with a 56 Chevy sedan at a crossing, driver stalled it as the exhaust disappeared and they had plenty of time to get out and didn't try, car went 173 feet before it touched the ground three died instantly and the last died 11 days later. And a local cop pointed me out to three of the parents at the accident scene and to this day they still say I killed their sons. Those were my first and last deaths with me as the engineer and I still say hi to them every night. My wife tells me I yell at them in my sleep. Took me seven years after I married her to tell her about it and the first happened in 1974 and the last in 1979, guess I got lucky since then until I retired. Sorry guys I guess I talk too much.
I love these locomotive but i miss the old ones, but they look so big is that because of newer parts added to the train to have tier 4 emission standard? Well I also love it, and it just look so big and what a beauty.
Put a K5 on those units please! This is America, we are big and loud. K5’s sound so much better. The shape of the new locomotives are cool, but that horn, not even a horn. Fill up those air compressors and put those horns to good use. If I can’t hear the Doppler effect, than its not good enough of a horn. Gotta be loud and let people know your coming. I mean you can hear this one, but make it pleasing to the ear. One of the main reasons I love trains is because of the k5’s. Get a steel bell on there instead of these Electric bells. Electronics I’m pretty sure have a better chance of messing up. Put some air in those tanks and kill my eardrums. America, loud and proud!
And...It never happened... Union Pacific owns 90 SD70ACE-T4's and CSX only has 10 of them. Norfolk Southern canceled their orders,but at that they sell and get rid of many other locomotives than you think. As seen here,BNSF was attempting to get some on their roster but then changed the decision for some reason. Also,the SD70ACE-T4's didn't get alot of sales due to numerous problems at first,mainly dealing with computer and electronic systems,and even the fuel injection system aside from high price. That's why Union Pacific had them in storage for awhile after immediately putting them out of service,to get updates and repairs going.
Hard to hear the engine sound with these horns blaring all the way. But apparently they much sound like the GEVO T4's, muffled and nearly like an electric locomotive.
It is a common practice among locomotive builders to paint the new demonstrator locomotive's in a specific railroads paint scheme to give a railroad one less item to not buy the new model locomotive's. All the have to do and EMD would be happy to do so is paint over EMD and paint BNSF on the side and front and rear of every new locomotive BNSF ordered. The grade crossings horns, is this a federal requirement for grade crossings now? If it is I would have to believe non of the lawmakers live within hearing distance of a railroad. I do believe the new electronic grade crossings horns will be a new target of everyone who lives within earshot. Anybody agree?
If you think about it, GE and EMD meet T4 standards by using a a larger version of your household vacuum cleaner. The exhaust goes into a few chambers and is spun around throwing the particles to the side as the cleaner gas goes out. That's the easiest way I can explain it. Sadly, goodbye to the chugging GE.
Ryan Hatterer that is definitely not how it works. a metered portion of the exhaust gasses are sent through an "EGR Cooler", which is basically a radiator, and mixed with the combustion air intake. The amount of cooled exhaust entering into the cylinders is carefully controlled to create a slower, more controlled burn to prevent the extremely high temperature spikes that can cause NOx formation. there is no after treatment or particulate filtering in the GE tier 4's.
Christian Javier Are you sure on that? that doesn't explain why you can hear a vacuum like sound, telling me that it's a form of after treatment. really wish there was some kind of video to show
That's an automated crossing horn, it plays the sequence from the crossing so the train doesn't have to, they have it at crossings where trains that travel at high speeds roll through. Obviously trains go through at high speeds through that first spot. Other places like Dekalb Illinois and Grand Island Nebraska have them too.
ahhhh the old EMD SD89 made a comeback i see...they have 4strokes in them, twin turbo they built these a loooong time ago.... started as EMDX 90-92 i believe they gave up on em.... UP had em for a while, i kitbashed one
I took EMD 20 odd years and an ownership change but it seems they finally perfected the 1010 (nee 265H) prime mover. Good for them. Looks odd having the units fully painted in the client scheme but with ElectroMotive lettering but they, they were going to paint them one way or the other anyway, right? Might as well make them fit in to the client's roster, it might drum up some more sales.
EMD didn't perfect the 1010J...It was Caterpillar.Caterpillar owns Progress Rail and Electro Motive Division.General Motors dumped the division in 2005,and then in 2010 was when Caterpillar did the acquisition.Before hand,there was a different company in that gap. EMD was the subsidiary to PRLX and that's how CAT got both of them. Caterpillar was responsible for rebuilding the entirety of the 1010J for the SD70ACE-T4,using the same basis as the 265H. If T4 EPA regulations weren't a thing,the SD70ACE-T4's would have 6,000 HP just like what the original SD90MAC's & MACH's had before being discontinued. Caterpillar even has the C280 which is very similar and was based on the 265H/1010J itself.The prime movers in different applications can range as V12's-V16's with 4,700-6,000 HP.
nice video! BTW I'm not live in America but I have a curious of that. Why American trains are frequently too much honking horns on railroad tracks? That is not the case for European , Japanese, and South Korean railroads.
Thank you for watching, and the comment! In the USA, trains are required to sound the horn for any crossing unless it is marked as a quote zone. They are also supposed to blow the horn if something is too close to the tracks.
Basic USA horn sequences Two short blasts- Train is moving Three short blasts- train is moving but in reverse 2 long a short and a long- crossing sequence and a warning get out of the way Laying on the horn something is up ahead that isn’t moving ( 90% of the time its a vehicle like a car or a truck that causes this)
what is so bad about the wayside horn?.. The idea of it is to hopefully remove consistent repair or replacement of the unit cut back on manufacturing coasts and the ability to not use extra air out of the air system, any amount of air saved is air well used. Plus that thing can be heard from miles away, as long as it's heard loud and proud it's just as effective as a normal diaphragm air based horn. Just like the ebell it might sound like ass but Rail roads and the average joe doesn't care.. it serves it's job wile offering better efficiency, quality and coast cutting.
Thanks for the comment, and watching as well. They are meant to benefit the neighbors around there. Using a train horn is part of normal operations, so I don't think it has much to do with that. The horn can only be heard in the direct area that it is sounding for.
What are you even talking about? The purpose of wayside horns is not to cut back on repair or replacement of Locomotive airhorns. Nor is it to save air on a locomotive. Locomotive horns use a minuscule amount of air. The wayside horns are to appease people who live near a railroad crossings who don’t want to hear train horns.
What an awful horn , nice to see that EMD has gone back toward the Canadian (GMDD) style whisper cab sleekness, I never liked the flat windowed brutalist look of the last model......
Mac Arthur..... ONLY on the US models.... every other country in the world can still order the EMD's with the 710 G two Cycle prime mover... and they all are, so far.... say thank you, to the tree hugging sob's in the US for their ridiculous, over burdening "devices" being forced on the engine manufacturers, here.... which is also causing LESS efficiency in terms of fuel usage, verses run time.
I'll go to different places has real train horn like Welch Vinita Pryor Bluejacket Winslow Russellville any trains has horns not the quiet zone thanks to cry baby people ruined the train horn
The new SD70ACE-T4 locmotives are pretty nice. Unfortunately, government regulations forced GE and EMD to create their respective locomotives out of necessity, which means stuffing an exhaust system full of filters may not be the best long term reliability solution for supposed cleaner air. On another note, it's a shame how a nation that's entire westward expansion was built by railroads suddenly hates them so much that they try to regulate railroads on their own property, with idiotic tricks like quiet zones and these absolutely awful wayside horns. Communities around railroad tracks have no jurisdiction over railroads since the railroads don't belong to them, making quiet zones are illegal in actuality. A bunch of crybabies, people are getting softer every year. Somebody bring the Huggies for these folks...
Thank you for a very well written, and thoughtful comment. I agree with you're saying, and I find it disheartening how much people tend to look down on railroads.
Anytime. Yes I'm with you, me too. Railroading will always be the most efficient all-around method of land transportation. Much, much better than highways clogged with trucks like we're currently facing. I subbed to your channel.
🙄Quiet zones are not illegal. They are approved by the FRA. Any town can petition the railroad to make a crossing a quiet zone. So long as they’re willing to accept liability for grade crossing accidents at the crossing most railroads are happy to make a crossing a quiet zone.
@@paulspomer16 Thanks for the comment; the surrounding area with that wayside horn is filled with homes. It has gotten very built up in the last few years.
What kind of horns are on the new units? They don't sound like air horns. As far as BNSF buying units from what I read on a BNSF news letter it is slow times they have a lot of units all over in storeage in Galesburg IL. they have 100 brand new units in storeage with no software in them yet it was said that they have even canceled orders that havent been built yet. Were I live in Ia on the transcon all I have seen here for the last year is old old units I hear everyday they are calling Ft Worth cause of some kind of trouble with the units one worker I talked to down by the depot he said it is all junk units they have been running cause of the loss of the coal contracts & oil trains. He is right about coal I live near the Hannibal sub there has been a big drop in coal trains over the year. I didnt know BNSF had the T4s tell I seen this I knew UP had them they to run junk units here NS has dropped trains coming here they use to be 4 each way now luck to see 1 CSX same way they all park in the yards here over night then go out the next day back north.
It just hit me what this sounds like. It sounds like the new weather alert sirens. We hav 3 of them in town when they go off this is what it sounds like they to are electronic sound
Weird horn. The sound is not coming from the locomotive because your would hear a pitch change do to the Doppler affect as the train passes. Must be a horn sound from the crossing.
Thanks for the comment! No, these units were never owned by BNSF. EMD painted them in BNSF colors, and hoped that BNSF would purchase them. There are other EMD demo units rolling around in UP colors as well, but were, and are EMD owned.
All jokes aside, there’s a wayside horn near me and I am legitimately considering sneaking up to it late at night and disabling/destroying it, or whatever I can do to it. Seriously.
Just so long as you realize that would be a federal crime and if anyone got killed at the crossing after you disabled the horn you would be looking at a Manslaughter charge.
I haven't herd of a "wayside horn" until just now. I thought the locomotives just had the weirdest horns that I've never heard before. I looked up "wayside horns" and I already hate them. I agree with everyone thinking that it should be killed and what not. IT'S A WASTE OF MONEY!!!!!
I agree with you on this; but those are roadside horns put up to appease the people around there who didn't want to have the trains blow the horn. Thanks for watching!
Then what are they called? This came right from EMD, and my contacts there. www.progressrail.com/en/Segments/RollingStock/Locomotives/FreightLocomotives/SD70ACe-P4.html
@@SD457500 Thanks for the clarification. I was a subscriber to Trains magazine for years but haven't gotten it for some time now. I had missed out on the wayside horns, but then I live in a smaller town that's not likely to ever have them.
Not happy with these new locos. They seem to have lost that thumping earth shaking sound. It's a shame, bring back the 80's with far too much noise and belching smoke, at least it was exciting. These new machines are boring. A bit like the A380 vs Concorde, I'll take the Concorde every time with it's completely "I don't give a fuck what anyone thinks I'm a big loud plane" attitude.
Kill the wayside horn please.
Please do!!!
Fuck the horns I want to hear that 1010 engine sound
Ricardo Serrano Yea, that's what I've been trying to find everywhere on RUclips. What this new 4 stroke emd sounds like. There's tons of videos of it, yet, there isn't a single one where I can actually hear the damn thing. My conclusion is, it's the quietest damn 4,000+ hp diesel engine ever made. Seriously, put headphones on and listen to video. They sound like damn electric locomotives running off cantilevers for power.
They sound like a vacuum cleaner had a baby with a jet engine. It is a very unique, yet quiet sound for an EMD.
SD457500 it must the engine silencer
They're meant to run as quiet as possible. Noise does not create power.
Adrian Neils I'd say there's a general correlation. But yes, I understand that. It's just a little disheartening as a rail fan to see one of the things that you love so much about trains being curbed. But I understand that the desires of rail fans have absolutely zero influence on the decisions of manufacturers. I believe most rail fans understand that. I hope so anyway.
I think these units look better in the BNSF paint scheme than they do in U P paint. Thanks for posting!
- Balerio
I agree.
I agree to
The wayside horn is the worst thing to be created sense the E-bell!
I don't mind E bells but wayside horns are an abomination from hell.
Hakeem M We are just alike. E Bells are okay, nothing good or bad, but hey, I'd rather have the bad ATSF 3751 recording wayside horn than just the basic buzzer.
So True
@@hakeemsd70m ya!
I like the E-Bell. I don't like the E-horn.
The wayside horn is just a recording of a Leslie S3L. But they need to be taken down. We Need Horns Back!
Thanks for the comment. I agree with you on this one!
@@mrbob055 quiet zones
I agree, let the train horns do the job!!!
GENERIC WAYSIDE HORN COMMENT!
These are my favorite locomotives! So modern and you can’t beat that classic EMD cab design
I wish they had caught on, and been more popular! Thanks for watching.
at least lets hear the HORN on this thing...well...we know who these units are going to. wayside horns are absolutely JOKES...
BBT609 They are terrible...
THANK YOU!!!!
Agreed
The t4s have a horn
E-bells ... just wait until they use a speaker for the horn! Ugh!
I hate the E-bells, they sound like crap. And I hate the horn on/off switch ... no nice smooth honking! :(
Funny how the railroads got along without grade crossing horns for well over 150 years and now the FRA says we must use them? How about a different tack, if you ignore the train crossing lights and bell and /or gates and get hit by the train the motorist is responsible for the damage to the railroad. For damn sure railroad trains don't leave the reservation and go hunting automobiles and trucks. I personally ran trains in my career as a locomotive engineer and have to see the idiots every time I go to sleep that died in front of the train I was running. From what one guy that stepped in front of a commuter train at 70 mph and less than 100 feet away to four teenagers playing chicken with a 56 Chevy sedan at a crossing, driver stalled it as the exhaust disappeared and they had plenty of time to get out and didn't try, car went 173 feet before it touched the ground three died instantly and the last died 11 days later. And a local cop pointed me out to three of the parents at the accident scene and to this day they still say I killed their sons. Those were my first and last deaths with me as the engineer and I still say hi to them every night. My wife tells me I yell at them in my sleep. Took me seven years after I married her to tell her about it and the first happened in 1974 and the last in 1979, guess I got lucky since then until I retired.
Sorry guys I guess I talk too much.
wayside horn: the one horn that is worse than an RS3K at 1700 PSI with 2 clogged chambers and and a broken manifold.
Dan Dowling Try running 1700 PSI though a locomotive horn valve, I dare you.
Dan Dowling..... Well said !!! : )
....or don't; unless your into exploding train horns lol...
The RS3K is a good horn only but man they sounded like shit the second a bit of dust got into it...
0:14 This *"Wayside Horn"* is either a recording of an Alien Exorcism or a K5HLA with spaghetti down the funnel.
It's an alien exorcism it was leaked by BNSF
@@myeyeisnotblue the fuck 😂😂😂
I love these locomotive but i miss the old ones, but they look so big is that because of newer parts added to the train to have tier 4 emission standard? Well I also love it, and it just look so big and what a beauty.
The midsection of the roof is so high I miss when they had saddlebacks
Put a K5 on those units please! This is America, we are big and loud. K5’s sound so much better. The shape of the new locomotives are cool, but that horn, not even a horn. Fill up those air compressors and put those horns to good use. If I can’t hear the Doppler effect, than its not good enough of a horn. Gotta be loud and let people know your coming. I mean you can hear this one, but make it pleasing to the ear. One of the main reasons I love trains is because of the k5’s. Get a steel bell on there instead of these Electric bells. Electronics I’m pretty sure have a better chance of messing up. Put some air in those tanks and kill my eardrums. America, loud and proud!
I will bet that Norfolk Southern might get some emd sd70acep4-t4 in the future.
Your suspicions were correct! NS has ordered 10 ACe-T4's. Now we can patiently wait for them to arrive on the mainlines.
And...It never happened...
Union Pacific owns 90 SD70ACE-T4's and CSX only has 10 of them.
Norfolk Southern canceled their orders,but at that they sell and get rid of many other locomotives than you think.
As seen here,BNSF was attempting to get some on their roster but then changed the decision for some reason.
Also,the SD70ACE-T4's didn't get alot of sales due to numerous problems at first,mainly dealing with computer and electronic systems,and even the fuel injection system aside from high price.
That's why Union Pacific had them in storage for awhile after immediately putting them out of service,to get updates and repairs going.
I like these new EMD locomotives,..they're pretty sharp! Be even more sharp in NS colors!
This comment aged well 🤣 (they got rid of all ordered EMD tier 4s)
@Jabba.Da.Hutt_they went with sd70iac's instead
Hard to hear the engine sound with these horns blaring all the way. But apparently they much sound like the GEVO T4's, muffled and nearly like an electric locomotive.
It is a common practice among locomotive builders to paint the new demonstrator locomotive's in a specific railroads paint scheme to give a railroad one less item to not buy the new model locomotive's. All the have to do and EMD would be happy to do so is paint over EMD and paint BNSF on the side and front and rear of every new locomotive BNSF ordered.
The grade crossings horns, is this a federal requirement for grade crossings now? If it is I would have to believe non of the lawmakers live within hearing distance of a railroad. I do believe the new electronic grade crossings horns will be a new target of everyone who lives within earshot. Anybody agree?
Great catch
Interesting that automated crossing horn
I really hope they bought em
If you think about it, GE and EMD meet T4 standards by using a a larger version of your household vacuum cleaner. The exhaust goes into a few chambers and is spun around throwing the particles to the side as the cleaner gas goes out. That's the easiest way I can explain it. Sadly, goodbye to the chugging GE.
Ryan Hatterer Thanks for the explanation!
They're others who can explain it better, but in short that's how it works. Cool if you ask me
Ryan Hatterer
that is definitely not how it works.
a metered portion of the exhaust gasses are sent through an "EGR Cooler", which is basically a radiator, and mixed with the combustion air intake. The amount of cooled exhaust entering into the cylinders is carefully controlled to create a slower, more controlled burn to prevent the extremely high temperature spikes that can cause NOx formation.
there is no after treatment or particulate filtering in the GE tier 4's.
Christian Javier Are you sure on that? that doesn't explain why you can hear a vacuum like sound, telling me that it's a form of after treatment. really wish there was some kind of video to show
Ryan Hatterer I work for GE Transportation so yes I'm certain
What in the world was that "horn" at the beginning?
Also, I want to say the new Tier 4 units are a 4 cycle engine now?
That's an automated crossing horn, it plays the sequence from the crossing so the train doesn't have to, they have it at crossings where trains that travel at high speeds roll through. Obviously trains go through at high speeds through that first spot. Other places like Dekalb Illinois and Grand Island Nebraska have them too.
It's called a way-side horn.
Ok, never knew exactly what it was called, all I know is that it's an automated horn that is quieter than the normal train horn
What's a engine cycle
They are a lot quieter than the Gevos
That's their main purchaser so far. Hope that will change.
ahhhh the old EMD SD89 made a comeback i see...they have 4strokes in them, twin turbo they built these a loooong time ago.... started as EMDX 90-92 i believe they gave up on em.... UP had em for a while, i kitbashed one
Those things are in the shop more than they are on the rails!
I took EMD 20 odd years and an ownership change but it seems they finally perfected the 1010 (nee 265H) prime mover. Good for them. Looks odd having the units fully painted in the client scheme but with ElectroMotive lettering but they, they were going to paint them one way or the other anyway, right? Might as well make them fit in to the client's roster, it might drum up some more sales.
Sadly BNSF ended up not buying the t-4
EMD didn't perfect the 1010J...It was Caterpillar.Caterpillar owns Progress Rail and Electro Motive Division.General Motors dumped the division in 2005,and then in 2010 was when Caterpillar did the acquisition.Before hand,there was a different company in that gap.
EMD was the subsidiary to PRLX and that's how CAT got both of them.
Caterpillar was responsible for rebuilding the entirety of the 1010J for the SD70ACE-T4,using the same basis as the 265H.
If T4 EPA regulations weren't a thing,the SD70ACE-T4's would have 6,000 HP just like what the original SD90MAC's & MACH's had before being discontinued.
Caterpillar even has the C280 which is very similar and was based on the 265H/1010J itself.The prime movers in different applications can range as V12's-V16's with 4,700-6,000 HP.
Nice catch!!! They are beasts!!!
nice video! BTW I'm not live in America but I have a curious of that. Why American trains are frequently too much honking horns on railroad tracks? That is not the case for European , Japanese, and South Korean railroads.
Thank you for watching, and the comment! In the USA, trains are required to sound the horn for any crossing unless it is marked as a quote zone. They are also supposed to blow the horn if something is too close to the tracks.
Basic USA horn sequences
Two short blasts- Train is moving
Three short blasts- train is moving but in reverse
2 long a short and a long- crossing sequence and a warning get out of the way
Laying on the horn something is up ahead that isn’t moving ( 90% of the time its a vehicle like a car or a truck that causes this)
These are like bigger versions of SD9043MACs
what is so bad about the wayside horn?.. The idea of it is to hopefully remove consistent repair or replacement of the unit cut back on manufacturing coasts and the ability to not use extra air out of the air system, any amount of air saved is air well used. Plus that thing can be heard from miles away, as long as it's heard loud and proud it's just as effective as a normal diaphragm air based horn. Just like the ebell it might sound like ass but Rail roads and the average joe doesn't care.. it serves it's job wile offering better efficiency, quality and coast cutting.
Thanks for the comment, and watching as well. They are meant to benefit the neighbors around there. Using a train horn is part of normal operations, so I don't think it has much to do with that. The horn can only be heard in the direct area that it is sounding for.
What are you even talking about? The purpose of wayside horns is not to cut back on repair or replacement of Locomotive airhorns. Nor is it to save air on a locomotive. Locomotive horns use a minuscule amount of air. The wayside horns are to appease people who live near a railroad crossings who don’t want to hear train horns.
T4s look different
EMD 1010J engine are far quieter and looks very efficient
Amazing! You Caught Sister Units!
I did, and the demo units at that! Too bad BNSF never got any of these units though.
True!
Great catch and shots!
Is the horn on the crossing or locomotive?
RailWatchers Crossing
The horn is on the crossing waysde horn
What an awful horn , nice to see that EMD has gone back toward the Canadian (GMDD) style whisper cab sleekness, I never liked the flat windowed brutalist look of the last model......
1:40 what's with the full dome on the end? nice catch of that!
MrBnsftrain Thanks for the comment! It was coming back from an excursion run on the Missabe.
The end of the 2-stroke !
Mac Arthur..... ONLY on the US models.... every other country in the world can still order the EMD's with the 710 G two Cycle prime mover... and they all are, so far.... say thank you, to the tree hugging sob's in the US for their ridiculous, over burdening "devices" being forced on the engine manufacturers, here.... which is also causing LESS efficiency in terms of fuel usage, verses run time.
Why don't they put horns on the Locomotives?
BurnedToast Roblox Thanks for the comment! The horns are on the power; the ones you hear are wayside horns and they are HORRIBLE.
SD457500 I totally agree! Kill the wayside horn!
Wayside horn = Pure shit
That's a deep philosophical question. I mean why??
I'll go to different places has real train horn like Welch Vinita Pryor Bluejacket Winslow Russellville any trains has horns not the quiet zone thanks to cry baby people ruined the train horn
Well it supposed to sound like a Wayside Horn for quiet zones for some reason.
SD457500 Do you know what's the type of that horn?? It sounds weird.
Arif Sukirno Thanks for the comment; those are wayside horns, not on the power.
SD457500 Haha... I don't ever hear that horn before, cause I usually hear the Nathan horns actually. So if I hear this, it is very strange for me.
This is the beginning of the fall of awesome trains.
Thank you; these were pretty neat to see in person, and the fall setting only helped make it better. Glad you enjoyed it!
lol i meant more of the ending... the falling of trains that sound good with good air horns and such
Agreed. The dumbass EPA ruined SD70ACEs
@@AJDeere Thank god that wasn’t the final horn on them csx has proper k5’s on their ST70AH ( the tier 4 EMDs)
It actually felt like the wayside horns were coming from the locomotives
If BNSF Had t4 SD70ACe locomotives this is what they would look like
Ferromex fan 4081 2:55 maybe
What better way to test them then putting them to work an actual working conditions
does anyone know the fuel consumption of is new locomotive ?
Love the video cept that horn not your fault.
Thanks for the comment! Those wayside horns are horrible...
Nice catch
Thanks for the comment; they were cool to see while they ran around here.
Those sd70ACE s are different
Thanks for the comment! They sure are, and are quiet too.
The new SD70ACE-T4 locmotives are pretty nice. Unfortunately, government regulations forced GE and EMD to create their respective locomotives out of necessity, which means stuffing an exhaust system full of filters may not be the best long term reliability solution for supposed cleaner air.
On another note, it's a shame how a nation that's entire westward expansion was built by railroads suddenly hates them so much that they try to regulate railroads on their own property, with idiotic tricks like quiet zones and these absolutely awful wayside horns. Communities around railroad tracks have no jurisdiction over railroads since the railroads don't belong to them, making quiet zones are illegal in actuality. A bunch of crybabies, people are getting softer every year. Somebody bring the Huggies for these folks...
Thank you for a very well written, and thoughtful comment. I agree with you're saying, and I find it disheartening how much people tend to look down on railroads.
Anytime. Yes I'm with you, me too. Railroading will always be the most efficient all-around method of land transportation. Much, much better than highways clogged with trucks like we're currently facing. I subbed to your channel.
🙄Quiet zones are not illegal. They are approved by the FRA. Any town can petition the railroad to make a crossing a quiet zone. So long as they’re willing to accept liability for grade crossing accidents at the crossing most railroads are happy to make a crossing a quiet zone.
That sounds like a Train simulator Horn!
I agree, but the locomotives are great
Thanks for the comment! They sure do look sharp.
What kind of horn is that
Thanks for watching! Its a wayside horn, and in my view, are horrible sounding.
Nice video.
Whos ideas was that to put wayside horns
Thanks for the comment! The people who live by there; they didn't like the train horns, so these went up.
SD457500 thoes idiots should understand saftey matters more
Why is there a wayside horn?
Thanks for the comment; the wayside horn is there because the residents complained about normal train horns.
@@SD457500 Residents? What residents? Those wayside horns were in the middle of nowhere
@@paulspomer16 Thanks for the comment; the surrounding area with that wayside horn is filled with homes. It has gotten very built up in the last few years.
Because stupid people complain about train horns let do there job
They might be the new BNSF locomotives
BNSF cancelled their order for them.
@@FFred-us9tw oh
awesome train video
What kind of horns are on the new units? They don't sound like air horns. As far as BNSF buying units from what I read on a BNSF news letter it is slow times they have a lot of units all over in storeage in Galesburg IL. they have 100 brand new units in storeage with no software in them yet it was said that they have even canceled orders that havent been built yet. Were I live in Ia on the transcon all I have seen here for the last year is old old units I hear everyday they are calling Ft Worth cause of some kind of trouble with the units one worker I talked to down by the depot he said it is all junk units they have been running cause of the loss of the coal contracts & oil trains. He is right about coal I live near the Hannibal sub there has been a big drop in coal trains over the year. I didnt know BNSF had the T4s tell I seen this I knew UP had them they to run junk units here NS has dropped trains coming here they use to be 4 each way now luck to see 1 CSX same way they all park in the yards here over night then go out the next day back north.
it sounds like an electric horn tuned to imitate classic american air horn
No kidding! Its a wayside horn....I'm not a fan of them.
It just hit me what this sounds like. It sounds like the new weather alert sirens. We hav 3 of them in town when they go off this is what it sounds like they to are electronic sound
Weird horn. The sound is not coming from the locomotive because your would hear a pitch change do to the Doppler affect as the train passes. Must be a horn sound from the crossing.
It's the wayside horn you are hearing,...not the one on the locomotive!
Wow that horn is a joke!
Looks good, sounds good, but that horn has to go. Happy Railroading everybody!!!!!!!
Man that Horn,Ugh! Sounds like an Electronic recording.
That’s because it is.
Those Horns Are Strange lol!
That first horn on the first train sounds weird
Thank you for the comment; they are wayside horns.
1:04 Ex: BNSF?
Thanks for the comment! No, these units were never owned by BNSF. EMD painted them in BNSF colors, and hoped that BNSF would purchase them. There are other EMD demo units rolling around in UP colors as well, but were, and are EMD owned.
AND THAT CROSSING HAS A HORN
All jokes aside, there’s a wayside horn near me and I am legitimately considering sneaking up to it late at night and disabling/destroying it, or whatever I can do to it. Seriously.
Just so long as you realize that would be a federal crime and if anyone got killed at the crossing after you disabled the horn you would be looking at a Manslaughter charge.
@@FFred-us9tw Ah, you again. Mr. RUclips Railroad policeman.
Quiet Zone?
THE HORN IS NOT OK! i dont want to be the one operating a train with that horn
Thanks for the comment! The horn is actually a wayside horn, and yes, they sound horrible.
Nice Video I just Subscribe!!
Carmichael Train Production Channel 327 Thank you!
I haven't herd of a "wayside horn" until just now. I thought the locomotives just had the weirdest horns that I've never heard before. I looked up "wayside horns" and I already hate them. I agree with everyone thinking that it should be killed and what not. IT'S A WASTE OF MONEY!!!!!
What happened to the classic horn?! Those wayside horns suck
cool
Please someone swat this horns factory and see if they're teaming with aliens
I agree with you on this; but those are roadside horns put up to appease the people around there who didn't want to have the trains blow the horn. Thanks for watching!
It did sound like a roadside horn a little bit.
The horns on drugs again.... (I know it was a generic horn made by the crossing)
Was that it's horn
No, it's just that the train was going through a quiet zone with an automated horn
TheNazar123 Quiet zones are for wussies lol
+BBT609 #iluminaticonfermed
Those Are BNSF
Thanks for the comment. They aren't BNSF, rather they are EMD demo units and have the reporting marks 'EMDX'.
they're not called P4s ffs
Then what are they called? This came right from EMD, and my contacts there.
www.progressrail.com/en/Segments/RollingStock/Locomotives/FreightLocomotives/SD70ACe-P4.html
That horn has to be a deal breaker.....how annoying
Thanks for the comment. They are actually the wayside horns in Andover, and are horrendous.
bnsf colors
As soon as I heard the wayside horns I clicked off this video.
Oh my goodness that horn sounds so WRONG
Couple of hundred million to develop a new engine... 5 cents on a horn.
EMD's without the 2 Cycle !???!!...... Cat Sucks !! Screw the tree hugging EPA !!
2Stroke Diesel Power damn right
I agree, but some of my family members used to work for the EPA, so it hurts a bit.
we.used.to.call.bn.the.big.nothing.when.i.worked.for.cnw.council.bluffs.in.the.70s.and.80s
Those damned wayside horns can go to hell
I do not like the new horn at all
Carlissa Kelley The horn is the automatic crossing horn, not what is on the power
Im not a fan of those horns.
Thanks for the comment! Those are wayside horns, and they aren't cool.
@@SD457500 Thanks for the clarification. I was a subscriber to Trains magazine for years but haven't gotten it for some time now. I had missed out on the wayside horns, but then I live in a smaller town that's not likely to ever have them.
Bnsf
window shop mood 654321123456 Cool story bro, seems legit.
I agree they do suck !!!!!
the most disgusting thing in the video is the wayside horn ugh
Thanks for the comment, I would easily agree with you on this.
Wtf did I just see…
You just saw two EMD Tier 4 demos running on the BNSF! Thanks for watching!
HORN IS HORRIBLE!!!!!!!
mlat411 It's a Wayside Horn.
What an awful sounding horn
Mason Hoven Those lineside horns are horrible...
SD457500 yes they are
Damn the horn sounds like it needs a cough drop horrible sounds and clumsy looking locomotive #wantbebuyingthatcrap in Ho Scale yikes
Not happy with these new locos.
They seem to have lost that thumping earth shaking sound.
It's a shame, bring back the 80's with far too much noise and belching smoke, at least it was exciting. These new machines are boring. A bit like the A380 vs Concorde, I'll take the Concorde every time with it's completely "I don't give a fuck what anyone thinks I'm a big loud plane" attitude.
The horn sucked
Thanks for the comment, and watching. I'd agree that wayside horns do suck.
That horn is awful
That it is, but those are wayside horns. The actual horn on these units isn't all that bad. Thank you for the comment!
Nice video, horrible horn
That horn sucks!!
I hate that horn. It doesn't sound a like a train at all... get a real horn.