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Комментарии • 81

  • @MMmaths8800
    @MMmaths8800 2 месяца назад +13

    There is no one like you, you are the best teacher in the world🥰

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 месяца назад +2

      Thanks dear for your continued love and support!❤️
      You are the best!

    • @Uma-hr8cc
      @Uma-hr8cc Месяц назад

      Best teaching

  • @jimlocke9320
    @jimlocke9320 2 месяца назад +8

    The barrier students must overcome is that there are not enough equations to solve for a and b. PreMath was able to narrow it down to one equation and 2 unknowns (a and b). However, we only need to know the product of a and b to find the area of the white triangle, not the individual values of a and b. One solution approach would be to find the area of the white triangle for the special case of ABCD being a square. Then, letting s be the side of the square, a = b = s and you have one equation with one unknown. The problem statement does not rule out a square. So, you solve, get a value for s² and subtract the combined area of the red, green and blue triangles to get the area of the white triangle. The problem statement implies that the same solution applies to the general case of the rectangle, so you present that as your solution.
    If the problem statement is modified to require students to solve ABCD being the general case of a rectangle, students are effectively given a clue that the solution is valid for a range of values of a and b, in this case, whenever the product ab equals 18 + 2√(51).

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 месяца назад +2

      Super!
      Thanks for the nice feedback ❤️

    • @shahdmohammed4597
      @shahdmohammed4597 2 месяца назад

      نشكر حضرتك للمجهود والمعلومة انا اوجدت الناتج بنظرية ايجاد المساحة الداخلية المظلله فى الشكل =مساحة الشكل الخارجى _مجموع مساحة الشكل الداخلى والناتج كان عدد صحيح وليس عدد عشرى. اسفة للاطالة وارجو التصحيح لو هناك خطا فى الحل

  • @prossvay8744
    @prossvay8744 2 месяца назад +6

    Let AD=BC=a ; AB=CD=b
    Area of rectangle ABCD=ab
    CF=12/a ; AF=10/b
    DE=AD-AE=a-10/b
    DF=CD-BF=b-12/a
    Area of triangle DEF=1/2(DE)(DF)=1/2(a-10/b)(b-12/a)=1/2ab(ab-10)(ab-12)=7
    (ab-10)(ab-12)=14ab
    ab=18+2√51=32.28cm^2
    White triangle area=32.28-(5+6+7)=14.28 cm^2.❤❤❤ Thanks sir Best regards.

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 месяца назад +2

      Super! You are the best🌹
      Glad to hear that!
      Thanks for sharing ❤️

  • @ramanivenkata3161
    @ramanivenkata3161 2 месяца назад

    Very well explained

  • @soniamariadasilveira7003
    @soniamariadasilveira7003 2 месяца назад

    Thank you Sir. I always like your explanations!

  • @ritwikgupta3655
    @ritwikgupta3655 2 месяца назад +8

    Very nicely done by isolating and reducing variables to only a single "ab"
    However you cannot reject 18-2√51 outright as its value is 3.72, ie +ve.
    So, we should state:
    White area = 18+/-2√51 - (5+6+7) = 18+/-2√51 - 18 = +/-2√51. As area is a positive number the answer is 2√51.

    • @123rockstar2010
      @123rockstar2010 2 месяца назад +1

      Exactly.

    • @OverclockingCowboy
      @OverclockingCowboy Месяц назад

      The author rejected it outright being “not possible” because it would be less than the sum of the 3 given triangles (5+6+7=18).

  • @williamorrick5348
    @williamorrick5348 19 дней назад

    A conceptual explanation of why it is not possible to solve for the individual lengths: if the figure is rescaled vertically by a factor of S and horizontally by a factor of 1/S, none of the areas in the figure (and areas are the only pieces of information provided) will change. Hence we are free to choose the scaling so that a selected line segment, say AB, has length 1.
    With this choice, AE has length 10. Let BC have length a, so that a*1 = a is the desired rectangle area. Then ED has length 10-a, FC has length 12/a, and DF has length 1 - 12/a. So (10-a)(1-12/a) = 14, from which we can find a.

  • @redfinance3403
    @redfinance3403 2 месяца назад +2

    Nice! I finsihed this one very quickly ⏰! I think what maybe made a lot of people fail to do this puzzle is labelling all the sides of the triangles with different variables instead of writing the height out in terms of the base, since you are given the area. Its a common pattern i have seen in other problems on your channel!

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 месяца назад

      Nice work!
      Thanks for the feedback ❤️

  • @6507bankston
    @6507bankston 25 дней назад

    I would have added a little reasoning why x=18-2sqrt(51) should be rejected. It's still positive, but is less than 4. We're given the area of the rectangle is at least 18.

  • @CloudBushyMath
    @CloudBushyMath 2 месяца назад +3

    Nice one👍

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 месяца назад +2

      Thank you! Cheers!🌹❤️

  • @soli9mana-soli4953
    @soli9mana-soli4953 2 месяца назад +2

    2sqrt51
    calling B the base of rectangle, H its height, FC = x, AE = y we can write:
    x*H = 12
    y*B = 10
    (B - x)*(H - y) = 14 => BH - xH - yB + xy = 14
    BH = 36 - xy
    Now we can divide the rectangle in 4 smaller rectangles in which the upper right rectangle has area = xy, then tracing perpendicular to base and height. Calling xy=a we can calculate the areas of each rectangles as:
    10 - a | a
    _____________
    14 | 12 - a
    doing the crossed product we have:
    14 a = (10-a)*(12-a)
    a² - 36a + 120 = 0
    a = 18 - 2sqrt51 = xy
    BH = 36 - (18 - 2sqrt51) = 18 + 2sqrt51
    White area = 18 + 2sqrt51 - 5 - 7 - 6 = 2sqrt51

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 месяца назад

      Excellent!
      Thanks for sharing ❤️

  • @derwolf7810
    @derwolf7810 2 месяца назад

    Alternatively:
    Using your labeling a, b, h, A to F and define i := |FC|.
    Copy the triangles, rotate them by 180 degree and align them along the bases of their counterparts to get colored rectangles.
    Note that the blue and the red rectangle overlap on a rectangle with area of i*h (smaller than both rectangles) and that the following is true.
    i*(b-h) * (a-i)*h = (a-i)*(b-h) * i*h
    (i*b - i*h) * (a*h-h*i) = (a-i)*(b-h) * i*h
    (2*6 - h*i) * (2*5-h*i) = 2*7 * h*i
    (h*i)^2 - 22*(h*i) + 18^2 - 324 + 120 = 14*(h*i)
    (h*i - 18)^2 - sqrt(204)^2 = 0 | /(h*i - 18 - sqrt(204)); < 0, because h*i < 10
    h*i - 18 + sqrt(204) = 0
    h*i = 18 - sqrt(204)
    ==> Area = 2*(5+6+7)-S - (5+6+7) = 18-S = 18-(18 - sqrt(204)) = sqrt(204) = 4 sqrt(51) ~= 14.28 [in cm^2]

  • @think_logically_
    @think_logically_ 2 месяца назад

    AE=bp => DE = b(p-1). Also DF=aq => CF=a(1-q). So we have abp=10; ab(1-q)=12; ab(1-p)q=14. But ab=s - the area of rectangle. So p=10/s => 1-p=1-10s=(s-10)/s and 1-q=12/s => q = (s-12)/s. Thus from third equation (s-10)(s-12)/s² = 14/s with leads to quadratic equation s²-36s+120=0. The rest is clear.

  • @jamestalbott4499
    @jamestalbott4499 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank you!

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 месяца назад

      You are very welcome!🌹
      Thanks ❤️

  • @klexosia
    @klexosia 2 месяца назад

    Thank you! I tried to do this on my own before watching the video, and I got the correct answer 🙂

  • @santiagoarosam430
    @santiagoarosam430 2 месяца назад +3

    Dividimos ABCD en cuatro celdas trazando una horizontal por E y una vertical por F→ Área de las celdas: (2*5-a); a; 14; (2*6-a)→ (10-a)/14=a/(12-a)→ a=18-2√51→ Área ABCD =10+12+14-a=36-18+2√51=18+2√51→ Área BEF =(18+2√51)-5-6-7=2V51 =14,2828....
    Gracias y saludos.

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 месяца назад

      Excellent!🌹
      You are very welcome!
      Thanks for sharing ❤️

    • @think_logically_
      @think_logically_ 2 месяца назад

      Un error pequeño: en lugar de (10-a)/14=a=(12-a) debe ser (10-a)/14=a/(12-a). But it's clear anyway (sorry my Spanish is far from perfect). Excellent solution. I was looking for something like that, but failed to complete.

    • @santiagoarosam430
      @santiagoarosam430 2 месяца назад

      @@think_logically_ Gracias por advertirme de la errata en la ecuación. Corrijo y quedo muy agradecido. Hasta siempre.

    • @think_logically_
      @think_logically_ 2 месяца назад

      @@santiagoarosam430 Por nada

  • @ercantulunoglu
    @ercantulunoglu 2 месяца назад

    very good

  • @user-cm7zz8zn4h
    @user-cm7zz8zn4h 2 месяца назад +1

    Assumes that at angles at vertices of abcd are 90degrees, not given, anyone can make assumptions.

    • @waheisel
      @waheisel 2 месяца назад

      He does say it is a rectangle.

    • @Deribus575
      @Deribus575 2 месяца назад

      Which is an assumption not given in the problem

    • @williamorrick5348
      @williamorrick5348 19 дней назад

      Also assumes that angles AED and DFC measure 180 degrees.

  • @richardbloemenkamp8532
    @richardbloemenkamp8532 2 месяца назад +2

    Ok got it correct. At first it seemed to become too complex with sqrt(816) and that there may be a simpler solution. But just continuing I got 2*sqrt(51)

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 месяца назад

      Excellent!
      Thanks for the feedback ❤️

  • @misterenter-iz7rz
    @misterenter-iz7rz 2 месяца назад +2

    by formula, A^2=(5+6+7)^2-4×5×6=18^2-120=204, A=2sqrt(51).😊

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 месяца назад +1

      Excellent!
      Thanks for sharing ❤️

    • @manojmiya9141
      @manojmiya9141 2 месяца назад +1

      Proof of (5+6+7)²-4*5*6

  • @SirKaftar_Requiem
    @SirKaftar_Requiem 2 месяца назад +1

    ❤❤❤

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 месяца назад

      Thanks dear 🌹❤️

  • @hanswust6972
    @hanswust6972 2 месяца назад +2

    Let be the area of triangles 7 = A, 6 = B and 5 = C.
    Then asked area = X
    *X = sqrt((A+B+C)^2 - 4BC)*

    • @mayihelpyou5557
      @mayihelpyou5557 Месяц назад

      我也是這麼寫的
      結果拿零分
      老師要求我寫計算過程

    • @awolzz5720
      @awolzz5720 Месяц назад

      两位兄弟为什么得出这个看似有点匪夷所思的结论? 不过代入后的结果与答案不符啊,是不是哪里写错了?

    • @mayihelpyou5557
      @mayihelpyou5557 Месяц назад

      @@awolzz5720 只有一個原因
      你代錯

    • @awolzz5720
      @awolzz5720 Месяц назад

      @@mayihelpyou5557 你是怎么得出这个结论的呢,能不能说一下

    • @mayihelpyou5557
      @mayihelpyou5557 Месяц назад

      @@awolzz5720 我記得用畢氏定理就能證了
      你最好不要用太多未知數
      兩個未知數就夠了

  • @marcgriselhubert3915
    @marcgriselhubert3915 2 месяца назад +1

    Fine.

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 месяца назад

      Glad to hear that!
      Thanks for the feedback ❤️

  • @shreedhanmehta3553
    @shreedhanmehta3553 2 месяца назад +2

    Why is 18-2√51 scenario rejected?

    • @bfelten1
      @bfelten1 2 месяца назад +1

      @@DeathZebra@DeathZebra:
      Well, that motivation must be in the solution for it to pass the test.
      But you have DF = a - 12/b, which means that a > 12/b and therefore ab > 12 (likewise for ED, but only ab > 10). So 18 - 2 * sqrt(51) must be greater than 12 -- it is slightly less than 4, so dismisst. QED.

  • @alster724
    @alster724 2 месяца назад +1

    The solution may be complex at first, but I was able to get it.

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 месяца назад

      Bravo🌹

  • @kkkim4643
    @kkkim4643 Месяц назад

    ab > 5+6+7, ab > 18

  • @sarojkumarbharti2906
    @sarojkumarbharti2906 Месяц назад

    It's very easy

  • @als2cents679
    @als2cents679 11 дней назад

    Since there are no variables, the answer needs to be a constant.
    Area of big rectangle = constant = A
    Area of white triangle = constant = A - 5 - 6 - 7 = A - 18
    Assuming D as the origin (0, 0), let B = (a, b)
    The locus of B is
    a b = A
    Without loss of generality, one can assume the special case when a = b, giving us
    a^2 = A
    Also
    (1/2) (a - 10/a) (a - 12/a) = 7
    a^2 - 12 - 10 + 120 / a^2 = 14
    A - 22 - 14 + 120 / A = 0
    A^2 - 36 A + 120 = 0
    A^2 - 36 A + 18^2 + 120 = 18^2
    (A - 18)^2 + 120 = 324
    (A - 18)^2 = 204
    A - 18 = sqrt(204) = 2 * sqrt(51) = 14.282856857 square units

  • @veby_ff
    @veby_ff 2 месяца назад +1

    خیلی زیبا و جالب

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 месяца назад

      ممنون فاطمه عزیزم 🌹❤️

  • @goranbrankovic9283
    @goranbrankovic9283 2 месяца назад

    14,283 cm2

  • @wackojacko3962
    @wackojacko3962 2 месяца назад +5

    The top 5% that did solve this this International Mathematical Olympiad puzzle all went on too be Substitute Teachers! 🙂

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 месяца назад +1

      😀
      Thanks ❤️

  • @stephenbrand5779
    @stephenbrand5779 2 месяца назад

    Great problem and solution. Afraid I am one of the 95%.

  • @Uma-hr8cc
    @Uma-hr8cc Месяц назад

    20

  • @shahdmohammed4597
    @shahdmohammed4597 2 месяца назад

    نشكرك

  • @tamarshahverdyan2723
    @tamarshahverdyan2723 2 месяца назад

    # 44 #

  • @amudangopal
    @amudangopal 2 месяца назад

    Why the negative root is not possible?

    • @user-vf4lm1lp2n
      @user-vf4lm1lp2n 2 месяца назад

      面積必大於0,而18-2×51^1/2<0,故不合

    • @ritwikgupta3655
      @ritwikgupta3655 2 месяца назад

      ​@@user-vf4lm1lp2n 18-2(√51) approx 18-2*7.14=18-14.28=3.72 which is +ve, but this will give a negative white area, only later.

    • @Uma-hr8cc
      @Uma-hr8cc Месяц назад

      Negative root Possible

  • @RajendranPK
    @RajendranPK 2 месяца назад

    √(5+6+7)^2---4×5×6

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 месяца назад

      Thanks for sharing ❤️

  • @lijiancz2066
    @lijiancz2066 2 месяца назад

    bad number selected. furhter ,when calculating delta, yoiu'd better keep facters(in this case, 4^2 rather than calculate it out.

  • @LuisdeBritoCamacho
    @LuisdeBritoCamacho 2 месяца назад +1

    1) Let's baptize things!
    2) x = 5 sq cm
    3) y = 6 sq cm
    4) z = 7 sq cm
    5) Fortunately we have a General Formula for these cases : White Area = "sqrt((x + y + z)^2 - 4xy)"
    6) WA = sqrt((18)^2 - 4*(30)) ; WA = sqrt(324 - 120) ; WA = sqrt(204)sq cm ; WA = (2*sqrt(51)) sq cm ; WA ~ 14,3 sq cm
    7) Final Answer : The Area of the White Square is equal to approx. 14,3 Square Cm.
    NOTE: I reach to the conclusion that the Domain of the Solution (White Area) should be somewhere between : 8 sq cm < WA < 16 sq cm.
    The Total of Possible Ordered Pairs (X ; Y) of Integer Solutions is : S {(18 ; 0) ; (20 ; 2) ; (22 ; 4) ; (24 ; 6) ; (26 ; 8) ; (28 ; 10) ; (30 ; 12) ; (32 ; 14) ; (34 ; 16) ; (36 ; 18)}
    X = Area of Rectangle [ABCD] and Y = Area of White Triangle [BEF]. And X - Y = X - (5 + 6 + 7) sq cm ; X - Y = 18 sq cm. The difference must always be 18 sq cm.

    • @PreMath
      @PreMath  2 месяца назад +1

      Excellent!
      Thanks for sharing ❤️

  • @rohandasgupta5365
    @rohandasgupta5365 2 месяца назад

    my answer is 6 cm square

  • @JobBouwman
    @JobBouwman 2 месяца назад +1

    The area R of the whole rectangle is:
    R = AB*AE+ DE*DF + BC*CF - AE*FC
    = 10 + 14 + 12 - AE*FC (1)
    Since AE = 10/AB and FC = 12/BC, we get AE*FC = 120/(AB * BC) = 120/R
    Plugging this into (1) we get:
    R = 36 - 120/R
    R^2 - 36R + 120 = 0
    This quadratic equation yields R = 18 + 2*sqrt(51)
    Now our answer = 18 + 2*sqrt(51) - 5 - 7 - 6 = 2*sqrt(51)

  • @HulkarxonQodirova
    @HulkarxonQodirova 8 дней назад +1

    Zemzkov

  • @HulkarxonQodirova
    @HulkarxonQodirova 8 дней назад

    😂😂😂😂