See you have been receiving a lot of negative comments under all these laser review videos. I just wanted to say thank you! I've been in the market for a hobby-level laser for some time now, and all the different options are overwhelming. These videos are a great help in further understanding options and useful features to look for when buying. As for all the negative responses, these people don't fully understand the time, money, dedication and resources it takes to tackle even the smallest project let alone huge scale machines that you built, plus take the time to film, edit and post. Keep it up, Cheers mate
Get the Ortur at the links below 👇 Ortur LU3-20A: www.amazon.ca/dp/B0C77W4TQK Final Price: ＄999.99💞Surprise: Order 20W Machine from amazon and then contact support1_ortur@163.com to get big promotion code for YRR2.0 (10PCS), laser material box (10PCS) and honeycomb laser bed (10PCS). First come,first served! US Module(LU3-20A): www.amazon.com/dp/B0C6MCJS6S Final price: ＄599 Ortur.net: s.zbanx.com/r/nGbIrAY8VmUm Page Coupon: GET200 (with $200 off) Final price: $999.99 Official sale: with $69.99 Universal Raisers(OUC1.0) Module(LU3-20A): s.zbanx.com/r/xLP7H84hhrP5 Final price: $549.99
20W diode lasers all pretty much have the same engraving and cutting performance. Any differences would be in their construction, ie structural design, and accessories like build platforms, extension kits, rotaries, etc.
They sent me one and it broke before I could even finish filming content. The x axis just randomly broke. Wouldn't home all the way to the left. I have the other LM3 10W and I always have issues with that one as well. I get random Error 9 g code locked out during alarm state. Even after I reset the machine and lightburn each time and type in $33=2000. It'll still randomly stop during jobs on some projects ruining them. I hate Ortur. Their support is useless. Have you been having any issues with yours?
@@mohammedomer4025 yep.. But, the result is only in one color tone.. Usually, speed 1000-1500 mm, power 100%, no air assist ... When is metal too shiny, I paint it with black color.. After its done, wash it with water..
Doesn't matter what I like better. I showed both working fine for what they do. The question you should ask yourself is 'what do I NEED'? Compare the specs. One has a 4x4" work area with a 5W laser meant for tiny projects. Good for an avg diy'er who isn't interested in taking on serious projects, just little trinkets and stuff. The other has a ~15x15" work area and a 20W laser built for the avg woodworker. That's 14X more work area, 4x more power but only twice the cost.
Very good question, would like an answer. Aluminum is hard to engrave or mark with diode laser has almost no effect because of its composition, unless you treat it with a spray for laser engraver first, metal markings sprays are not cheap, matter of finding the right spray to treat aluminum with. You can start with "Enduramark" brand or "Brilliance". I'm assuming it can be achieved but the introduction of a chemical (spray) might not give the subtle colors. I have some testing to do NOW, will post with results.
It's etched, but I think you might be misunderstanding the term. Etching isn't just marking, it's the opposite of engraving. It melts the surface to cause it to expand and create a raised texture as opposed to engraving. You can feel it just as you can an engraving, and it's just as permanent. It's not coming off unless you grind it off.
How is it at etching photos onto steel or metal. Thinking of doing some photos of people etching onto steel where the steel is still silver but the etched areas are more of a black tone. Have you tried photos onto leather?
It'll etch metal as well as it engraves wood. Photos can be tricky if there's a lack of lighting or contrast, but if you have a good photo to work with then it works fine. Positives, negatives. I could've dialed the settings in more and gotten a better result from the tests that I showed, but it's pretty much what you see is what you get across the board. Wood, metal, leather. It works them all fine in high resolution. It just takes time to find the right settings for the look that you want. I recommend starting with scraps first to get to know the machine. It comes with a list of parameters for cutting and engraving different materials, but these are just a rough guide because material composition and density is going to vary at least some, even between different batches from the same producer. There are different types of stainless steel made with different types and quantities of alloys, for example. If you etch metal, make sure to order a little extra from the same batch so that you have a bit of waste for dialing in the settings before etching. If you try a different piece of stainless from a different supplier, then you might not get the same results. Especially when we're talking about colour etching. It etches by slightly melting and deforming the surface into a raised texture while oxidizing it to produce different colours depending on how much heat's applied, which is controlled by the speed, power and interval settings. Ie lower speed, higher power and/or tighter intervals = more heat and typically darker colours. The blues and yellows are usually hiding in the middle-low end of the spectrum. But changing just a few points makes a noticeable difference between shades and colours.
@@JamesBiggar wow thank you for a very fast and detailed reply. I recently came across a article and a video of a man that makes pet memorial's. His materials of choice were typically concrete, large river rocks, granite, etc. Those are all time consuming and costly to ship. I've been wanting to use a laser for engraving onto metal items. After seeing his story I got the idea of pet memorial's using a metal form which is different from his materials, cost is a lot less. I've also looked at a cnc table set up to cut my own patterns. This is why I was asking about photos on steel. I think using steel cutouts is a different concept
No extra parts required. The laser module produces colours on stainless steel (only) by etching and oxidizing the surface with heat. Varying the amount of heat focused on the surface at a given moment will produce varying colours and shades. You can increase or decrease the heat by increasing or decreasing the power, speed, or interval count, as shown in the video.
These reviews are going to help pay for them. Can't afford to build expensive projects for entertainment anymore without help in one form or another. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxCQSb8ExnP8Ac1F5mPzfiBGhlDtUZAaSB
There's actually still 10 left in stock at the Amazon link. Get one while they last. I don't sell them so I have no power over availability and can't say if/when they'll restock. I just reviewed it. That's all.
votre machine bip car vous n'avez pas inserer la micro sd si vous aviez suivie le manuelle d'installation vous aurez vu qu'il y avait cette micro sd a mettre et quelle est tres importante vous allez tuer la machine a l'utiliser sans
J'ai suivi le manuel, mais le kit n'incluait pas de carte SD pour s'adapter à la fente à l'intérieur du cadre. Ils ont envoyé une carte micro SD et un lecteur de carte USB à la place d'une carte SD - ceux-ci ne sont pas compatibles avec la fente pour carte SD sur le cadre intérieur, seulement la fente USB sur le coin extérieur, et il n'y a qu'une seule fente USB. Si la carte sd est impérative, alors Ortur devrait l'inclure à la place de la micro sd, ou ils devraient fournir deux ports usb afin que l'utilisateur puisse connecter le lecteur de carte et le câble usb pour fonctionner via lightburn et lasergrbl comme ils le suggèrent dans ce même manuel . Deux choses ne peuvent pas occuper le même espace en même temps, physique 101, et vous ne pouvez pas faire fonctionner cette machine sans PC ou application mobile. Les représentants d'Ortur ont examiné la vidéo avant de la publier, donc si le bip indiquait un problème grave qui pourrait endommager la machine, n'auraient-ils pas dit quelque chose ? Le manuel ne dit pas non plus que ne pas utiliser la carte SD endommagera la machine. Peut-être savez-vous quelque chose qu'Ortur ne sait pas ?
Yes. That's why I lol. Your comment was funny because it did annoy me. Was it intended to be an angry rant instead? Let's not - they're just trying to keep the dummies among us safe. I can disable a beeper easy enough :)
@@JamesBiggar Lol no, not an angry rant. Sorry, Just wasn't sure if you found it annoying too or if it's just me. I mean, I could forgive it beeping while it's lasing, you don't wanna be in the room for that anyway (fumes, etc). But you are correct, disabling that is easy enough for anyone with the skills to use the thing in the first place.
See you have been receiving a lot of negative comments under all these laser review videos.
I just wanted to say thank you! I've been in the market for a hobby-level laser for some time now, and all the different options are overwhelming.
These videos are a great help in further understanding options and useful features to look for when buying.
As for all the negative responses, these people don't fully understand the time, money, dedication and resources it takes to tackle even the smallest project let alone huge scale machines that you built, plus take the time to film, edit and post.
Keep it up,
Cheers mate
Thank you! I'm glad it's helpful :)
I just received my LM 3. Can't wait to get started with some projects.
Get the Ortur at the links below 👇
Ortur LU3-20A: www.amazon.ca/dp/B0C77W4TQK
Final Price: ＄999.99💞Surprise: Order 20W Machine from amazon and then contact support1_ortur@163.com to get big promotion code for YRR2.0 (10PCS), laser material box (10PCS) and honeycomb laser bed (10PCS). First come,first served!
US Module(LU3-20A): www.amazon.com/dp/B0C6MCJS6S
Final price: ＄599
Ortur.net: s.zbanx.com/r/nGbIrAY8VmUm
Page Coupon: GET200 (with $200 off)
Final price: $999.99
Official sale: with $69.99 Universal Raisers(OUC1.0)
Module(LU3-20A): s.zbanx.com/r/xLP7H84hhrP5
Final price: $549.99
Can we get some short comparision between this and for example falcon because for me they seems very similar so only difference is price?
20W diode lasers all pretty much have the same engraving and cutting performance. Any differences would be in their construction, ie structural design, and accessories like build platforms, extension kits, rotaries, etc.
I just ordered mine and I appreciate the video to set it up! Than you.
Glad I could help!
Air assistant purchased separately?
They sent me one and it broke before I could even finish filming content. The x axis just randomly broke. Wouldn't home all the way to the left. I have the other LM3 10W and I always have issues with that one as well. I get random Error 9 g code locked out during alarm state. Even after I reset the machine and lightburn each time and type in $33=2000. It'll still randomly stop during jobs on some projects ruining them. I hate Ortur. Their support is useless. Have you been having any issues with yours?
Tanx for the review.. Im using OLM3 with 10w modul, but the part with steel engraving makes me thinking about upgrade on 20w..
Can you simply engrave on stainless steel with 10W?
@@mohammedomer4025 yep.. But, the result is only in one color tone.. Usually, speed 1000-1500 mm, power 100%, no air assist ... When is metal too shiny, I paint it with black color.. After its done, wash it with water..
@janbackq5632 Thanks for the detailed answer.
can you please cut some nickel sheets to make custom battery welding strips
Fantastic overview. Thank you.
My machine does not cut help, it stops halfway through work
Great review, thanks
which did you like better the ortur 20W or the laserpecker 2?
Doesn't matter what I like better. I showed both working fine for what they do. The question you should ask yourself is 'what do I NEED'? Compare the specs. One has a 4x4" work area with a 5W laser meant for tiny projects. Good for an avg diy'er who isn't interested in taking on serious projects, just little trinkets and stuff. The other has a ~15x15" work area and a 20W laser built for the avg woodworker. That's 14X more work area, 4x more power but only twice the cost.
Thanks for your insight!!
Np.
is it possible to color engrave aluminum? Thank you for answer
Very good question, would like an answer. Aluminum is hard to engrave or mark with diode laser has almost no effect because of its composition, unless you treat it with a spray for laser engraver first, metal markings sprays are not cheap, matter of finding the right spray to treat aluminum with. You can start with "Enduramark" brand or "Brilliance". I'm assuming it can be achieved but the introduction of a chemical (spray) might not give the subtle colors. I have some testing to do NOW, will post with results.
Yes but will it cut clear acrylic?
Diode lasers can't cut clear acrylic. You need CO2 for clear acrylic.
When you do stainless steel engraving can u feel the engraving depth with your fingers or it just feels etched? thanks!
It's etched, but I think you might be misunderstanding the term. Etching isn't just marking, it's the opposite of engraving. It melts the surface to cause it to expand and create a raised texture as opposed to engraving. You can feel it just as you can an engraving, and it's just as permanent. It's not coming off unless you grind it off.
@@JamesBiggar Got it. Thanks!
How is it at etching photos onto steel or metal. Thinking of doing some photos of people etching onto steel where the steel is still silver but the etched areas are more of a black tone. Have you tried photos onto leather?
It'll etch metal as well as it engraves wood. Photos can be tricky if there's a lack of lighting or contrast, but if you have a good photo to work with then it works fine. Positives, negatives. I could've dialed the settings in more and gotten a better result from the tests that I showed, but it's pretty much what you see is what you get across the board. Wood, metal, leather. It works them all fine in high resolution. It just takes time to find the right settings for the look that you want. I recommend starting with scraps first to get to know the machine. It comes with a list of parameters for cutting and engraving different materials, but these are just a rough guide because material composition and density is going to vary at least some, even between different batches from the same producer. There are different types of stainless steel made with different types and quantities of alloys, for example. If you etch metal, make sure to order a little extra from the same batch so that you have a bit of waste for dialing in the settings before etching. If you try a different piece of stainless from a different supplier, then you might not get the same results. Especially when we're talking about colour etching. It etches by slightly melting and deforming the surface into a raised texture while oxidizing it to produce different colours depending on how much heat's applied, which is controlled by the speed, power and interval settings. Ie lower speed, higher power and/or tighter intervals = more heat and typically darker colours. The blues and yellows are usually hiding in the middle-low end of the spectrum. But changing just a few points makes a noticeable difference between shades and colours.
@@JamesBiggar wow thank you for a very fast and detailed reply. I recently came across a article and a video of a man that makes pet memorial's. His materials of choice were typically concrete, large river rocks, granite, etc. Those are all time consuming and costly to ship. I've been wanting to use a laser for engraving onto metal items. After seeing his story I got the idea of pet memorial's using a metal form which is different from his materials, cost is a lot less. I've also looked at a cnc table set up to cut my own patterns. This is why I was asking about photos on steel. I think using steel cutouts is a different concept
May I know the settings for the stainless etching? TIA
Someone else did a video and used speed 300 and power 100%
Is there auto air control through the Lightburn program?
Yes.
What piece did your order from Ortur for the colored laser?
No extra parts required. The laser module produces colours on stainless steel (only) by etching and oxidizing the surface with heat. Varying the amount of heat focused on the surface at a given moment will produce varying colours and shades. You can increase or decrease the heat by increasing or decreasing the power, speed, or interval count, as shown in the video.
You can create colours on other materials by using a marking agent, which is basically a type of paint made specifically for laser engravers.
Awesome. Thank you so much.
Can it cut plexiglas?
Only black acrylic (plexiglass)
No more electric moto or other projects?😢
These reviews are going to help pay for them. Can't afford to build expensive projects for entertainment anymore without help in one form or another. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxCQSb8ExnP8Ac1F5mPzfiBGhlDtUZAaSB
currently UNAVAILABLE on Amazon...
There's actually still 10 left in stock at the Amazon link. Get one while they last. I don't sell them so I have no power over availability and can't say if/when they'll restock. I just reviewed it. That's all.
votre machine bip car vous n'avez pas inserer la micro sd si vous aviez suivie le manuelle d'installation vous aurez vu qu'il y avait cette micro sd a mettre et quelle est tres importante vous allez tuer la machine a l'utiliser sans
J'ai suivi le manuel, mais le kit n'incluait pas de carte SD pour s'adapter à la fente à l'intérieur du cadre. Ils ont envoyé une carte micro SD et un lecteur de carte USB à la place d'une carte SD - ceux-ci ne sont pas compatibles avec la fente pour carte SD sur le cadre intérieur, seulement la fente USB sur le coin extérieur, et il n'y a qu'une seule fente USB. Si la carte sd est impérative, alors Ortur devrait l'inclure à la place de la micro sd, ou ils devraient fournir deux ports usb afin que l'utilisateur puisse connecter le lecteur de carte et le câble usb pour fonctionner via lightburn et lasergrbl comme ils le suggèrent dans ce même manuel . Deux choses ne peuvent pas occuper le même espace en même temps, physique 101, et vous ne pouvez pas faire fonctionner cette machine sans PC ou application mobile. Les représentants d'Ortur ont examiné la vidéo avant de la publier, donc si le bip indiquait un problème grave qui pourrait endommager la machine, n'auraient-ils pas dit quelque chose ? Le manuel ne dit pas non plus que ne pas utiliser la carte SD endommagera la machine. Peut-être savez-vous quelque chose qu'Ortur ne sait pas ?
Mod idea 1: rip that freaking annoying beeper out of that thing. Jesus Christ.
Lol.
@@JamesBiggar Sorry, but didn't it annoy you while testing? The "everything is ok alarm" never seemed like a good idea to me.
Yes. That's why I lol. Your comment was funny because it did annoy me. Was it intended to be an angry rant instead? Let's not - they're just trying to keep the dummies among us safe. I can disable a beeper easy enough :)
@@JamesBiggar Lol no, not an angry rant. Sorry, Just wasn't sure if you found it annoying too or if it's just me. I mean, I could forgive it beeping while it's lasing, you don't wanna be in the room for that anyway (fumes, etc). But you are correct, disabling that is easy enough for anyone with the skills to use the thing in the first place.
very cool