I understand that you are personally familiar with applying that level of madness to many things too :) Thanks again for letting us use your recreation of Niftski's 454!
@@flibidydibidy I was not even aware that there ARE 275 speed run videos. There certainly are not that many on RUclips, so I don't know where else he got them. Where would I find them, for instance?
It's awesome to finally see the finished product. So much work went into just the sub 5's I can't imagine how painful it would be to do all the runs. Big thanks to everyone who worked on this project. Also glad my green Mario was able to make it into the top 3 before this came out.
I love how every Mario looks seperate at the end, everything looks SO SO AMAZING! I've been watching this series for a while, and I can't believe the final product is here :) Can't wait for more of this from you, I just know it's gonna be a good time! Good luck making everything awesome :D
2:14 I don't think I've ever seen a more clear demonstration of framerules. If I didn't already understand what they were, I sure as hell would after seeing this.
The combined runs are nice and all, but I absolutely loved the look behind the scenes. This is just crazy, and fantastic. Thank you for creating not only the video, but also the information on what went on to get this all to work
This is f*cking nuts, I love it, you shouldn't be disappointed at all with "only" getting the sub 5 runs, honestly I think it makes a more compelling theme/narrative.
3:14 a wild SummoningSalt appears! It's massively underrated that how good he is in several games, most people only giving him credit for his speedrunning history videos, which are also incredibly well done.
2:14 That's me! This is one of the most technical video projects related to speedrunning that I've seen in quite some time, and I cannot imagine what it took to make it happen!
This is actually a really cool visual representation of frame rules. They all exit the level in different places and enter the next in neat lines with equal separation. It’s cool.
This is finally finished! This was such a huge project. I’m thanking everyone who helped in the making of this video in behalf of everyone who watched it.
It was so much fun to see the groups of Marios at the beginning of every level. Also, the flaming death circles on the water portion of 8-4 were pretty cool too.
Love seeing a physical manifestation of the framerule system at the start of each level, so funny to watch those well ordered Marios get progressively desynced as the level goes !
As I was watching I had a few questions like what the number in the lower left meant and why some of the Marios were a different color. My mind imploded and then exploded when I realized the answers while watching the "making of" section after the run finished. I have no words other than "WOAH".
From an editing perspective, when watching this, I was just trying to think how it could be done, remembering the other recordings like TavenWebb's. (like CRT TV and stuff, plus being at an angle I was definitely expecting warping to take place) I had assumed that the variance in Mario color was just color correction to make the backgrounds all line up. When you started pulling out the AI neural networks and stuff, that's where you lost me LOL. Insane.
Wow. Really impressive! As for it only including runs under 5 minutes, that seems like the right choice to me. If the Marios are more than a few seconds apart, they couldn't really be shown on the same screen. With only sub 5s, the maximum distance between Marios is only around 5 seconds. I also think the input-focused method here is the best one moving forward. To ease the workload in the future, maybe runners could record their inputs and post them so that some runs don't need any additional work. For old runs or ones without input, maybe part of the process of determining their inputs could be automated. You guys already have a tool that can look at video of a run and track Mario decently, maybe it could produce a rough outline of the inputs required with some work. It could also theoretically cross reference with an emulator to verify them. Anyway, awesome project!!
Great thoughts Qflame! I have been exploring things along the same lines.. The game is just so well suited to this task, and the results are much better than any image processing could realistically be. I do want to return to the image processing (specifically for live applications!), but for offline things the TASing is much more ideal. Thank you!
one of the coolest projects i have been apart of, thank you to everyone who helped for putting a lot of your time into helping to finish this project i am sure flibidy is very grateful :), i am at 4:03
I'm sure Daisy ran away after she saw all the Marios 🤭 5:08 Ps: incredible stuff, awesome work. The beauty of seeing all those tiny little differences in the runs, just awesome, great job. Thank you 👌
I'm proud of this and I had absolutely ZERO involvement or knowledge of it until right now, that's how impressive this is. I'm proud to have SEEN this.
Ive been seeing updates for this on and off, it’s refreshing to see someone care enough to visualize something like this. I hope it does very well for you and I appreciate your efforts
Love it, but because it's such a callback to Lemmings in how it feels, I think you should have a Lemmings-style countdown and mass explosion on all of the runs that aren't top 10 or so. Would be hilarious for those of us old enough to remember that game
So from the looks of it, 8-1 is where the 2 sub 4:55s gained an extra frame rule and they were ahead of the pack from there on out. So much information can be gained just from watching this.
To be honest this is an amazing idea and I'll be using it if ever I need to do another one. It is excruciating wondering if someone is editing or not. Go park your dang cursor when you're not inputting
I love how you can see just how intensely tough 4-2 and 8-4 can be. Most of the other levels they kind of finish in clumps but those levels breaks all of them up. I also love how you can see the difference framerules can make whenever a new level is started.
This video was missing one thing, which should hopefully be incorporated into the next "edition." I loved the summary shots at the end, showing off the main tricks, but to this should be added a final shot of the Axe, zoomed in big, and in super slow motion, as if we're getting the photo finish of a horse race, and see the first few Marios get that axe. Or as DGR would say: SMACK. DAT. AXE!!!!
That was a really cool video to see. So much work went into making this video and everyone involved deserves the best. Thanks for sharing this with the world.
Being the last place finishers in this video is like being the last place runners at the Olympics. Still a world class athlete, but looks like child's play compared to the medalists.
Impressive stuff here. I was wondering how much work went into the creation of the amazing display you created and I found out that my estimate was not very close :)
![The LAST Second Barrier [SMB1 Any%]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/hJJgkno7cCM/mqdefault.jpg)
I don't think the amount of work that went into this can be overstated. This is just pure madness
I understand that you are personally familiar with applying that level of madness to many things too :) Thanks again for letting us use your recreation of Niftski's 454!
Absolutely insane amount of dedication!
@@flibidydibidy I was not even aware that there ARE 275 speed run videos. There certainly are not that many on RUclips, so I don't know where else he got them. Where would I find them, for instance?
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@@wrestlerx8494 twitch maybe
The bell curves of Marios in 4-1 and most of 8-1 are beautiful
TWO COMMENTS??!
Great work. always really impressed with the apps you develop. Thanks for bringing about such a cool project/finished product
cheze burgher
How are you still in the top 10?
@@MemesbroOnScratch i think because fewer than 10 people have beaten my time
@@Kosmicd12 Ehm... Ok???? I think you just pointed out the obvious
@@MemesbroOnScratch technically answered the question. 😁
I love seeing the framerule gaps getting more and more spaced out but still having the perfect, same distance between them.
aha, couldn't think of what the gaps were
I was about to make a similar comment but didn't want to be repetitive. I had never visualized the importance of frame rules before now.
@Conrad Donovan nope it's definitely framerules as that's all the game cares about on level load
It’s crazy
It’s so satisfying to watch.
The idea of how this project inadvertently caught a couple cheaters made me chuckle
I didn't know that happened. Do you have a link?
Edit: Never mind, I started reading the comments after watching the runs, and then resumed.
@@inlovewithi ruclips.net/video/Bu_18ErV5sM/видео.html
Yeah it was very funny when I heard it.
Apparently they were both kids though
It’s crazy to think every single one of these little Mario’s is a person, completing sub 5.
He missed the Bababum Speedrun and his legendary "Coca-Cola con Pizza" run.
@@N12015 ah yes, 89 heart beats per minute on the last level of the game
Why does Marios have an apostrophe
The only thing better than the perfect framerule gaps is when it all falls in to chaos in 8-4
it's cool to see how much "distance" a framerule actually is after each level
I’m just imagining Flibidy and the crew being almost done with the video and then Miniland taking back the WR
Thankfully Miniland recreated his own run for us! :-)
@@flibidydibidy then Niftski takes it back 2 days ago.
Time to reupload🙈
@@zunaidparker next year lmao
Gotta love how perfect a visual representation of the framerolls this serves as each stage start they are broken so evenly into groups.
Would you like some framebutter with your framerolls? 🧈
the one guy who got fireworks at 4:18 is my hero
Lmaoo
The framerule gaps between the bunches is beautiful as always. This is incredible.
It's awesome to finally see the finished product. So much work went into just the sub 5's I can't imagine how painful it would be to do all the runs. Big thanks to everyone who worked on this project. Also glad my green Mario was able to make it into the top 3 before this came out.
I love how every Mario looks seperate at the end, everything looks SO SO AMAZING! I've been watching this series for a while, and I can't believe the final product is here :)
Can't wait for more of this from you, I just know it's gonna be a good time! Good luck making everything awesome :D
Mraio
@@RandomnessMusician mraio
Why you everywhere
2:14 I don't think I've ever seen a more clear demonstration of framerules. If I didn't already understand what they were, I sure as hell would after seeing this.
Oh my goodness! This is like a doctoral thesis defence in Super Mario Bros, unbelievable!
The combined runs are nice and all, but I absolutely loved the look behind the scenes. This is just crazy, and fantastic. Thank you for creating not only the video, but also the information on what went on to get this all to work
Cool to be a part of the sub 5 club. After all, 275 people isn't a lot out of 7 billion.
This is f*cking nuts, I love it, you shouldn't be disappointed at all with "only" getting the sub 5 runs, honestly I think it makes a more compelling theme/narrative.
All the Marios doing the walljump off the pipe at 4:36 is the most satisfying thing i've ever seen.
3:14 a wild SummoningSalt appears! It's massively underrated that how good he is in several games, most people only giving him credit for his speedrunning history videos, which are also incredibly well done.
At 05:10, you can see Bowser being killed 275 times in just above 5 seconds.
2:14 That's me!
This is one of the most technical video projects related to speedrunning that I've seen in quite some time, and I cannot imagine what it took to make it happen!
I think you mean 2:09
@@caramowol u right
This is actually a really cool visual representation of frame rules. They all exit the level in different places and enter the next in neat lines with equal separation. It’s cool.
This is finally finished! This was such a huge project. I’m thanking everyone who helped in the making of this video in behalf of everyone who watched it.
You forgot about Badabun’s legendary sub 5 using pizza and coke optimisation.
He said he removed runs that were proven to be false
Badabun's run was 5 min and 12 secs
@@dragunyt2727 No, it was faster than the world record (he used TAS footage). He put a fake timer to hide it
4:34 Dude the music is in sync with the runners going down the pipe :0
This might be the best demonstration of the frame roll mechanic ever made.
It was so much fun to see the groups of Marios at the beginning of every level.
Also, the flaming death circles on the water portion of 8-4 were pretty cool too.
I love how you can see how much a framerule spaces them out.
Love seeing a physical manifestation of the framerule system at the start of each level, so funny to watch those well ordered Marios get progressively desynced as the level goes !
If you ever wanted a perfect visual representation of the frame rule. This is it.
As I was watching I had a few questions like what the number in the lower left meant and why some of the Marios were a different color. My mind imploded and then exploded when I realized the answers while watching the "making of" section after the run finished. I have no words other than "WOAH".
It’s so cool how you see the frame rules separate out into little ‘buckets.’
its so interesting to see the difference in the 'bus times' for the marios
2:33 I made it in a video :D
I love the visualisation of the frame bus! You can see the Marios coming in groups!
Gigantic Work! Can't find the words to express what I think about it! MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD RESPECT!
Let's go it's finished! Happy to have helped with this and I'll hopefully be able to help with future peojects!
With this, going into 1-2, you can really see how huge getting a framerule is
From an editing perspective, when watching this, I was just trying to think how it could be done, remembering the other recordings like TavenWebb's. (like CRT TV and stuff, plus being at an angle I was definitely expecting warping to take place) I had assumed that the variance in Mario color was just color correction to make the backgrounds all line up. When you started pulling out the AI neural networks and stuff, that's where you lost me LOL. Insane.
Bowser answering a call: "What do you mean there are a thousand marios coming?!?"
I love the visualization of the frame rule
Wow. Really impressive! As for it only including runs under 5 minutes, that seems like the right choice to me. If the Marios are more than a few seconds apart, they couldn't really be shown on the same screen. With only sub 5s, the maximum distance between Marios is only around 5 seconds.
I also think the input-focused method here is the best one moving forward. To ease the workload in the future, maybe runners could record their inputs and post them so that some runs don't need any additional work. For old runs or ones without input, maybe part of the process of determining their inputs could be automated. You guys already have a tool that can look at video of a run and track Mario decently, maybe it could produce a rough outline of the inputs required with some work. It could also theoretically cross reference with an emulator to verify them.
Anyway, awesome project!!
Great thoughts Qflame! I have been exploring things along the same lines.. The game is just so well suited to this task, and the results are much better than any image processing could realistically be. I do want to return to the image processing (specifically for live applications!), but for offline things the TASing is much more ideal.
Thank you!
2:10 let’s go!! Great video man 👍
you're in the video!
@@BurndiL I'm in the video too!
@@Vireth i'm in the video too!
This is absolutely incredible. Working on this was such a blast. The spreadsheet was such a nice addition
I like how they slowly diverge and you start seeing who the alpha plumbers are
one of the coolest projects i have been apart of, thank you to everyone who helped for putting a lot of your time into helping to finish this project i am sure flibidy is very grateful :), i am at 4:03
let's say thank you to this well trained army of mayos
I'm sure Daisy ran away after she saw all the Marios 🤭 5:08
Ps: incredible stuff, awesome work. The beauty of seeing all those tiny little differences in the runs, just awesome, great job. Thank you 👌
Applause to the insane folks who put this together. Thank you.
It was a blast working in this project, if you want you're always welcome to help with the 2022 edition ;)
The amount of work this required is insane, nice to see it all together! Thank you all who worked on this!!
Princess: Oh good, Mario is here to save me
*49 more Marios enter the room*
Princess: oh shi-
275 marios 1 peach
I'm proud of this and I had absolutely ZERO involvement or knowledge of it until right now, that's how impressive this is. I'm proud to have SEEN this.
Well, we have a 2022 edition planned, you are always welcome to help with that ;)
Wow! Great work by all involved!
Thanks! And nice videos yourself, someone mentioned them a few months ago I think.. Cool stuff!
I especially like how you see a perfectly sized gap between groups showing how the frame rule works.
Ive been seeing updates for this on and off, it’s refreshing to see someone care enough to visualize something like this. I hope it does very well for you and I appreciate your efforts
Summoning Salt is in there bru!!!!!
This was an amazing visualization! That was great to watch. Thank you to everyone for putting this together
Love it, but because it's such a callback to Lemmings in how it feels, I think you should have a Lemmings-style countdown and mass explosion on all of the runs that aren't top 10 or so. Would be hilarious for those of us old enough to remember that game
So from the looks of it, 8-1 is where the 2 sub 4:55s gained an extra frame rule and they were ahead of the pack from there on out. So much information can be gained just from watching this.
Watching an NES game in 1440p60 gives quite a feeling of power.
What an excellent video. Also, the idea of a cursor parking lot in shared documents is brilliant.
To be honest this is an amazing idea and I'll be using it if ever I need to do another one. It is excruciating wondering if someone is editing or not. Go park your dang cursor when you're not inputting
The speedrunning community never ceases to amaze me in their endless creativity and resilience! Amazing work from everyone!
So many Marios, just one princess.
Looks like I got my sub 5 just in time for this video! Awesome stuff!
Me, not being a speed runner by any stretch of the imagination: "Wow look at those losers at the back of the pack."
I'm not invited to parties.
I think this demonstrates how important frame rules are to this game better than any explanation ever could
I love how you can see just how intensely tough 4-2 and 8-4 can be. Most of the other levels they kind of finish in clumps but those levels breaks all of them up. I also love how you can see the difference framerules can make whenever a new level is started.
This vid emphasizes the importance of frame rules.
I like how you can very clearly see the framerule system in action
This video was missing one thing, which should hopefully be incorporated into the next "edition."
I loved the summary shots at the end, showing off the main tricks, but to this should be added a final shot of the Axe, zoomed in big, and in super slow motion, as if we're getting the photo finish of a horse race, and see the first few Marios get that axe.
Or as DGR would say: SMACK. DAT. AXE!!!!
It’s really cool how we can see the Mario’s grouped based on their previous levels’ framerule exit 👍
Ok this is absolutely amazing and we need it to be a common thing with most games, great work!
i love when communities come together to make incredible things. you guys are awesome
i love that you can see the frame rules by the individually spaced columns of Marios running in many of the levels
Extremely cool to see the runs stratified by framerule, a very neat way to visualize the concept.
It is almost unfair, that after all this hard work, this video feels like an elegant dance.
Incredible work!
they sent 273 people to rescue peach damn
This is such a great visualization of exactly how meaningful a frame rule is
It's really cool to see the final product! Thanks for putting in the effort to make this!
Mario Royale, But everyone is good at the game and doesn't die
this video makes me miss super mario 35
I love at the start of each level you see which bus each Mario caught.
Brilliant work!
That was a really cool video to see. So much work went into making this video and everyone involved deserves the best. Thanks for sharing this with the world.
This is incredible! I greatly appreciate how much work has been put into this. I don’t even soeedrun this game. Bravo
This is what my vision looked like a couple of years ago, on the day I had my stroke. I almost died. It was not a good day.
This is so awesome, I hope people appreciate the work that must have gone into this.
It's insane that I recognize several of the players within the 4:59-4:58 range. Lui, Ohon, Kirua, even SummoningSalt
Glad to see this all come together beautifully :)
This is like watching Ninji Speedrun but much more satisfying
Being the last place finishers in this video is like being the last place runners at the Olympics. Still a world class athlete, but looks like child's play compared to the medalists.
Very cool video that shows off the many different strategies and movement people do :)
This is a high effort speedrunning content, I give you my respect my man
A perfect visualization of the frame rule.
The frame rules being obvious in this video is so nice to see the differences in each run.
thanks for your effort in doing this records of combined runs, gladly appreciated
Impressive stuff here. I was wondering how much work went into the creation of the amazing display you created and I found out that my estimate was not very close :)
The straightforward nature of 4-1 makes it easy to visualize the frame rule system, or at least the distance difference.
Love how clearly this shows the framerules