It's just phenomenal. By the way... would it be possible to get some details on how you handle correcting and grading vlog pro res raw on the S5 video you made (would love to know how to implement Roger That V2 to images coming out from the S5). The B-roll looks insane.
@@manuelkrall I live in germany and on christmas there was a sale at Foto Erhardt where it cost 1600€ and at the same time Panasonic had a 300€ cashback
Agreed, but I might be biased as I own an S5. It just generally seems more neutral to me, particularly if you look at the saturation of the walls in the background.
@@Milan-cf1xe I might nudge these shots away from magenta a tiny bit but I think that the Sony looks several ticks too green/yellow for my taste. What lenses are you using with your S5? I have a set of Minolta MD primes that I think really go well with a custom color profile that I set up. The main thing is that I think either camera is completely usable for color, it just looks like the Panasonic is starting in a more neutral position in most of the shots.
To those S1/S5 owners, you have a beast and make the best of it n don't think of going for A7IV... I'm a die hard fan of Sony but I fell in love with panasonic recently
@J Gate I do wedding work so I like having many cameras. After using the A74 for a few weddings, it's really nice having the AF for certain moments. Still a lot of things I favor in the S series
5:30 Sick tune. I don't have an S5, but the S1. I see absolutely no reason to upgrade yet. Fantastic camera still. Bit of an magenta cast in comparison to the Sony. Both great.
The Sony really has that Yellowish Green Tint and the S5 has that Magenta Tint however from what I could see the the S5 captures far higher raw details in the footage but the Sony has a softer look to it that makes it look more "Cinematic" yeah I am never going to ever say that word
I own an S5 so there's a bias there. But I agree on the colour and the image quality points on both cameras. These days you really can't go wrong except for those that really need auto-focus.
@@nichtpeanut7825 No its not, its workable, in Super35 mode the S5 AF is just as good as Sony A7IV, I used the S5 professionally for gun and run situation as a videocam and it does the job admirable, there some adjustments you have to make in the settings to the AF, basically the S5 is very slow AF, it struggles immensely with situations in which a subject moves towards a camera or away from it, but anything else it does good, you kind of have to tell it what to lock the focus on or follow because if you leave the camera to think for itself it can be pretty wild at times.
I have both cameras now, the A7iv is NOT an S5 with autofocus. The S5 is better in everything except autofocus and EVF resolution (which is VERY unfortunate for a camera you’ll probably be manual focussing on). Vlog beats slog3 by miles, colour is much better in terms of grading and usability out of camera (also true for stills). The Sony also lacks a lot of video tools you really, really need. The video CAN be sharper than the S5 but notion a desirable way. For stills 33 mp let’s you crop in more but not much. The S5 has a better body with much better dials and buttons, weather sealing and never overheats. It has a hugely superior stabilisation and. The A7iv I really and truly only have it for when I have to have super reliable autofocus and have to shoot hybrid. That the Sony delivers 100%. The full size hdmi is nice to have on the Sony. The colours and the Sony are so much more work and always look bland and dead without lots of tweaking. It’s better than in the last generation but not good. White balance is also all over the place if you don’t use manual all the time which is unnecessarily complicated and cumbersome on the Sony. You can even use custom luts. Actually reading this I think I’m gonna sell it…
@@apocryphal_man haha, i got the sony a7iv and thinking of selling jt and going for the s5. However, I read lumix may be releasing s5 ii sometime end/new year. Not sure if i should wait to see what the next s5 has to offer before pulling the trigger.
@@ThePistonPit I am in the same boat. Have ordered a Sony from Amazon and something is off, I don’t know I just don’t like it compared to my much cheaper X-T4, I can not justify spending the money.
I do love our S5's. They're insanely good value for money. Compared to the Sony, I do personally prefer the colour, the usability, functionality, IBIS and reliability (the Sony does seem a little prone to overheating). Eyeing up the new Fuji XH2s as a gimbal cam with better AF.
The newer Sonys do this as well, you just have to turn the feature on in the menu. But yea agreed, I've had way fewer double-punch and reverse-record mistakes with the red box!
S5 for me. I kinda like sony skin tones more because it's more reminiscent of red color science, but looking at the blown out windows the sony just looks like dslr footage in the peaking highlights. S5 has that highlight rolloff that cinema cameras have. very very surprising
I don't have any of these two cameras (unfortunally) but i'm liking a lot more the new Sony color science, it's a personal preference, ofcourse, but the warmer tones feels more "filmic and correct" to me. I don't know, the magenta tones on the S5 in certain shots makes me think of a person who went to the beach, forgot to put on the sunscreen and fell asleep under the sun 😅 very interesting video, thank you!
Maybe but the viewer do not care. Even for big cinema viewers do not care. People only complain once the colours go way over the top like the orange filter for those Mexican scenes in Breaking Bad, or those crazy orange and teal colour grading in Transformers.
@@SMGJohn i completly agree with you. Mine was just a personal analysis about the comparison, but, just for saying, the S5 is on top of my list for the best hybrid camera for filmaking al lower prices :)
Please tell me the track name starting at 5:20 and where i can find it. It’s so addictive and I’m desperately searching for it. Thank you! Awesome video as usual, I’m definitely inclined towards the S5 😉🙏🏻
At the price, and with BRAW, it's not even close, Lumix is a way better value IMO, also, not to mention, the image and colors of the Lumix are more pleasing to me.
Both camera's are great. I just wish like the Sony A74 that the Panasonic S5 had unlimited recording in 4K 10 bit. At least Panasonic could put out a firmware update where you can get unlimited recording time limit in 4K 10 bit in at least Super 35mm without using an external recorder. And yes I am aware that the Panasonic S5 can record unlimited in both 4K 8 bit and 1080HD 10 bit which is great but it would be nice if Panasonic just did that last little thing fro the Panasonic S5.
What conversion lut did you use for the Sony? My skin tones often come out more to the red side of things. I just use the colour space transform in DaVinci. Both look great though!
The autofocus is definitely a headache on the S5 but mannnnn $1500 right brand new? With the video specs and image quality, I think it’s a steal. Maybe not for portrait photographers lol
Panasonic Full Frame cameras have the best colour depth of any FF cameras out their, the CFA filter Panasonic is using is very thick and produces excellent colour separation, I seen many portrait photographers with S1R
Where in the world did you get the REC 709 lut for the Panasonic S5? 😮😮 The video quality for the S5 is way better than I thought and this is from a person who owns S5!
I actually picked the s5 over the a7iv as a b cam to my fx3.. much cheaper, and for sit down side angles, autofocus still works just fine. It's pretty noticeable the pink coloration of the s5. In most situations I like it, and as you said, it's easy to color match to the more orange sony
@@motorcycle-man the option is nice when having a tight shot and shallow depth of field + Full frame sensor, but is not needed. I do want AF for the other things I do - photography, and a standalone camera if I rent my fx3 out. I have not found a reliable way to use the AF though in video outside of a talking head to be honest
Hi great Comparaison, And love your Channel Little contextual infos I have 2 BMPCC4K and one 6k, plus some GH5,5s I bought all second hand because I am mostly shooting classical music concerts and I needed a lot of cameras for it and MFT BMPCC 2Hand was the way to go to start making Videos ...I am coming from Audio where I mostly do multimic recording up to big orchestra formation...but lately more demand for Video so had to reshape my services. First of all Blackmagic Video Assist was the best purchase I have made recently,in combo with S5 it is like you said a FF BMPCC...👍👍👍👍 You are right about the internal vs brawl codecs...it is not such a big difference. Even for matching the cameras...thanks to my mix camerabrand purchase I had to be fit in colormatching and learn to do it properly and still learning. But yes Braw Vlog is easier to match with Gen5 Bmpcc. IR pollution with BMPCC4K 6K is noticable,I did not find it in S5... Overall S5 is a great camera...but what about sigma fp I have already plenty of cameras but I am still intrigued about Sigma FP used...I follow your channel since some times and what are you thinking about the esthetic aspect of the image? S5 vs FP? Complementary? different? Braw FP? If you have time to give me an Answer thanks in advance but it is not a must... Like your channel anyway. Filip
Both are very good. Bought S5 for $1300 with kit lens so now can invest $1200 to make almost complete video kit for the price of body only of Sony. But I love Sony and would definitely switch if I have more money
Hey since you have the a7iv right now is their any chance to get a hold of the Fujinon mk x 18-55 t2.9 cine lens and try it in crop mode. That would be a cool video to make.
both great cameras, sadly the official lumix rec709 conversion lut they give it's not the best, many have complained about it. I choose to use the 55media lut conversion to rec709 and it looks stunning.
Did he use the Panasonic Lut? I also have the 55media Lutpack. But there are so many different that i get confused. Which of them do you like the most?
Your shots came out mostly as expected with the Sony more toward the greenish side & the Lumix more toward magenta. Didn't expect the apparent difference in punchiness though.
Thanks again for sharing these tests, also addressing the rolling shutter this time. Quite impressive how it almost vanishes in Super 35 mode. I do like skin tones much better in A7IV shots. Sony has really improved these with the A7IV. Quite intrigued to get it as lightweight Super 35 cam.
While the image quality and colour are better on the S5, the Sony A7IV is better for Vlogging and solo shooting because of the AF and cheaper lenses on the used market. Choose wisely.
Great video I wish you would matched the skin tones for that last shot, it’s hard to judge with such pink skin from the S5. I know it can be fixed but it would’ve been great to see it fix😃
I can't see any difference at all. Maybe, the Panasonic skin color is more red than Sony... The autofocus from this Sony have to be better (in that case: I will get the Sony).
Owner of a S5 and a a7IV. If you're in a budget and you're thinking about getting a S5, remember that you don't have the Tamron or Samyang third party lens to buy and the L mount lens collection is short. In a budget can't be the main reason to buy a Lumix S5. If you use a lot of AF, specially in video, the camera is not that good compared to the a7iv.
Lumix looks more filmic, sony is sharper. I have both cameras, for video shooter which does not need top AF and can color well himself, I would say A7IV is a waste of money. I do not even want to compare it for handheld video, as S5 kills Sony in this comparison. Lumix feels better in hands. But sony has nicer color profiles from the camera, and as I said, it is a tad sharper so it is better for photographer, not that S5 is not tack sharp, but Sony is a bit sharper.
Yeah, Sony cameras have more baked in sharpness (and noise reduction). You have to move up to something like FX6 or FX9 to get rid of it. I always prefer to do sharpness in post if needed in certain shots so I highly prefer Panasonic cameras. This can be easily seen by comparing A7III to S5 since they have the same sensor. A7III has that digital artificial sharpness and the S5 looks much more natural and closer to celluloid. This despite the A7III having a partial OLPF while the S5 has none.
@@Fedorevsky In this case I meant, detail as well. You can see the difference between 33mpx and 24mpx, it is more detailed, not that it looks more cinematic.
@@sjmedia_official Maybe a bit. Both shoot 4k down-sampled from a much higher mpx count so there would be a tiny bit of a difference there I guess. However I think the A7IV has an OLPF softening the image so most of that difference would probably be negated.
Maybe you should walk outside and look at people this time, you wont see orange skin tones, their skin colour is gonna be various orange-pink colours, if you want orange skin colours, use makeup and stop being a freak trying to control everything in camera, good video is made with good sets.
I am getting my Komodo tomorrow, I have A7IV and A7sIII, and I like A7IV much better, cleaner and sharper, thus far none of these SLR, DSLR, Mirrorless truly give you that 24fps cinematic look of Arri even when using cine match or arri lut, it's just not the same, then I see Komodo which is very similar to these cameras, but let's hope with my DZO cine lens I get something more out of it. I love that details on the face when you see a Hollywood film, like you can see those pours on the cheeks and that depth in the face with likes of Arri Mini, Mini LF, BMPCC just feels like a super16mmm look which is truly cinematic, but ways to go. One thing I have noticed clearly is when I shot with my R5 8K Raw, the image just was way different than 10 bit sony or even 10 bit canon, something about raw that just brings out more color, depth and roll off highlights. If Sony had given an internal raw recording i wouldn't have even thought about Komodo. The only true cinematic look I have seen out of a hybrid camera is Sigma FP and Canon 5Dmark II with magic lantern. I loved that progressive scan of frame where each frame is an image rather than a motion capture. Would love to see you use cinema lenses on these cameras and see the difference.
BTW the 4k60 isn't oversampling from the full 7k sensor but it is still at least true 4k which is great.
What did you think of the images?
It's just phenomenal. By the way... would it be possible to get some details on how you handle correcting and grading vlog pro res raw on the S5 video you made (would love to know how to implement Roger That V2 to images coming out from the S5). The B-roll looks insane.
From what I understand the 60p oversamples from 4.6k instead of 7k. So it’s slightly over 4k. That’s what I’ve heard. I could be wrong.
as an S5 owner, the best thing about it is its price. for the price, it's an absolute beast. great comparison Spenser !
yeah got it for 1300€ new. Thats crazy. A used GH5 costs 900€
@@Milan-cf1xe 1300€ 👀 Where did you get it from?
@@manuelkrall I live in germany and on christmas there was a sale at Foto Erhardt where it cost 1600€ and at the same time Panasonic had a 300€ cashback
@@Milan-cf1xe Ohh thats amazing thank you!
@Clau Almeida Switching from a cell phone camera to a professional one is insane! Kinda feel that!
I like the skin tones coming from the s5. It looks more natural to me.
Agreed, but I might be biased as I own an S5. It just generally seems more neutral to me, particularly if you look at the saturation of the walls in the background.
@@izzieb I also own an S5 but I edit way more FX6/FX9 and A7siii footage.
@@datalaforge Dont you think its too much magenta? I have the S5 too but dont like the purple tint in the shadows and the magenta in the skintones
@@Milan-cf1xe I might nudge these shots away from magenta a tiny bit but I think that the Sony looks several ticks too green/yellow for my taste. What lenses are you using with your S5? I have a set of Minolta MD primes that I think really go well with a custom color profile that I set up. The main thing is that I think either camera is completely usable for color, it just looks like the Panasonic is starting in a more neutral position in most of the shots.
@@datalaforge I use Zeiss ZE lenses. 25mm F2, 35mm F2, 50mm F1.4.
These are also called Zeiss Classics
To those S1/S5 owners, you have a beast and make the best of it n don't think of going for A7IV... I'm a die hard fan of Sony but I fell in love with panasonic recently
Me too!!
I have 2 S1's and 2 S5's and I just bought an A7IV today. Looking forward to seeing how it performs in my workflow
@@KBmediaOnline wow that's interesting, why do you need all these? And different systems?
@J Gate I do wedding work so I like having many cameras. After using the A74 for a few weddings, it's really nice having the AF for certain moments. Still a lot of things I favor in the S series
@@KBmediaOnline What do you like from the S series?
5:30 Sick tune.
I don't have an S5, but the S1. I see absolutely no reason to upgrade yet. Fantastic camera still. Bit of an magenta cast in comparison to the Sony. Both great.
The Sony really has that Yellowish Green Tint and the S5 has that Magenta Tint however from what I could see the the S5 captures far higher raw details in the footage but the Sony has a softer look to it that makes it look more "Cinematic" yeah I am never going to ever say that word
Didnt watched the video yet, but I needed this one. Chose the S5 because of the price and now I am curious which is better
I own an S5 so there's a bias there. But I agree on the colour and the image quality points on both cameras. These days you really can't go wrong except for those that really need auto-focus.
If I'm not mistaken. I think the S5 FF glitch you had is because the sigma 18-35 is not a full frame lense.
I keep telling people that A7iv is S5 with AF for twice the price minus pro video features.
is the focus that bad
@@nichtpeanut7825
No its not, its workable, in Super35 mode the S5 AF is just as good as Sony A7IV, I used the S5 professionally for gun and run situation as a videocam and it does the job admirable, there some adjustments you have to make in the settings to the AF, basically the S5 is very slow AF, it struggles immensely with situations in which a subject moves towards a camera or away from it, but anything else it does good, you kind of have to tell it what to lock the focus on or follow because if you leave the camera to think for itself it can be pretty wild at times.
I have both cameras now, the A7iv is NOT an S5 with autofocus. The S5 is better in everything except autofocus and EVF resolution (which is VERY unfortunate for a camera you’ll probably be manual focussing on). Vlog beats slog3 by miles, colour is much better in terms of grading and usability out of camera (also true for stills). The Sony also lacks a lot of video tools you really, really need. The video CAN be sharper than the S5 but notion a desirable way. For stills 33 mp let’s you crop in more but not much. The S5 has a better body with much better dials and buttons, weather sealing and never overheats. It has a hugely superior stabilisation and. The A7iv I really and truly only have it for when I have to have super reliable autofocus and have to shoot hybrid. That the Sony delivers 100%. The full size hdmi is nice to have on the Sony.
The colours and the Sony are so much more work and always look bland and dead without lots of tweaking. It’s better than in the last generation but not good. White balance is also all over the place if you don’t use manual all the time which is unnecessarily complicated and cumbersome on the Sony. You can even use custom luts. Actually reading this I think I’m gonna sell it…
@@apocryphal_man haha, i got the sony a7iv and thinking of selling jt and going for the s5.
However, I read lumix may be releasing s5 ii sometime end/new year. Not sure if i should wait to see what the next s5 has to offer before pulling the trigger.
@@ThePistonPit I am in the same boat. Have ordered a Sony from Amazon and something is off, I don’t know I just don’t like it compared to my much cheaper X-T4, I can not justify spending the money.
I do love our S5's. They're insanely good value for money. Compared to the Sony, I do personally prefer the colour, the usability, functionality, IBIS and reliability (the Sony does seem a little prone to overheating). Eyeing up the new Fuji XH2s as a gimbal cam with better AF.
Turns out, XH2s does not have better AF and very dependant on the lenses you have.
A7iv ain’t really had a reputation for over heating as of late
This feels like such a dumb thing but I love the red tally ring around the whole screen when you're recording on the S5.
The newer Sonys do this as well, you just have to turn the feature on in the menu. But yea agreed, I've had way fewer double-punch and reverse-record mistakes with the red box!
@@aldolega awesome thanks for the heads up!
At 5:40 the S5 really nailed it, colors and everything!
Thanks for the video - sick tune btw!
Thanks for the comparsion Spencer! Its crazy how good the s5 is for the now 1400$ price point
great work on this comparison and damn, the music is amazing!
The s5 has great skin tones.
No it doesn't. People look like pigs.
Best camera comparison video ever. Great work, Spenser.
dude the music is fire
The skin tone and the highlight roll off (the window in the background) shows that the S5 is the way better video camera in terms of image quality.
Great video mate! Cheers!
What lut did you use for s5 here? Footage looks cool
Right on Time with this video Spencer 😁😁!!!!
Looking forward to the Panasonic S5 Mark 2
As an S5 shooter I have some bias towards the Lumix, but I really enjoyed your comparison of the two cameras. Cheers Sir. full retention
S5 for me. I kinda like sony skin tones more because it's more reminiscent of red color science, but looking at the blown out windows the sony just looks like dslr footage in the peaking highlights. S5 has that highlight rolloff that cinema cameras have. very very surprising
Yeah...Thanks man!
Is the video that I was waiting for.
Low light test would be a nice addition.
I really liked the side by side comparison.
"not useable AF" me who uses af daily on the S5 is confused...
Why can’t there be a camera with great IBIS AND AF? Panasonic would destroy the competition. Great comparison, I’m still very happy with my S5
Yes its called Canon R6 oe Nikon Z6II LOL
I don't have any of these two cameras (unfortunally) but i'm liking a lot more the new Sony color science, it's a personal preference, ofcourse, but the warmer tones feels more "filmic and correct" to me. I don't know, the magenta tones on the S5 in certain shots makes me think of a person who went to the beach, forgot to put on the sunscreen and fell asleep under the sun 😅 very interesting video, thank you!
Maybe but the viewer do not care.
Even for big cinema viewers do not care.
People only complain once the colours go way over the top like the orange filter for those Mexican scenes in Breaking Bad, or those crazy orange and teal colour grading in Transformers.
@@SMGJohn i completly agree with you. Mine was just a personal analysis about the comparison, but, just for saying, the S5 is on top of my list for the best hybrid camera for filmaking al lower prices :)
the lumix is 2 years old from its launch and in characteristics they are similar, great lumix
Regarding skin tone which one looks true to your eyes?
Please tell me the track name starting at 5:20 and where i can find it. It’s so addictive and I’m desperately searching for it.
Thank you! Awesome video as usual, I’m definitely inclined towards the S5 😉🙏🏻
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The S5 colors wins it all, and for that price no questions at all.
with the new s5ii - would you recommend the s5II or the a7iv for hybrid run-and-gun stuff
have you found a proper answers to your question?
@@Sokraz I’ve concluded that the s5ii is it. Getting it this week
@@jaymills1720 can you tell me why you are getting the s5ii over the a7iv ? That will really help me 👍
@@Sokraz better color for video SOOC. baked in LUT
I love the Panasonic highlight roll off and not super sharp giving that digital look.
they are both good,a74 for autofocus s5 for the price and you can record hdmi out prores raw and blackmagic raw
Great video. Loved the music Mat is playing, can i find it somewhere online?
The music isnt Mat’s. I just found a song similar. The music is by Makeup and Vanity Set found on Musicbed
@@spensersakurai Stock music? Haha. Ok, cool. Thank you!
At the price, and with BRAW, it's not even close, Lumix is a way better value IMO, also, not to mention, the image and colors of the Lumix are more pleasing to me.
Both camera's are great. I just wish like the Sony A74 that the Panasonic S5 had unlimited recording in 4K 10 bit.
At least Panasonic could put out a firmware update where you can get unlimited recording time limit in 4K 10 bit in at least Super 35mm without using an external recorder.
And yes I am aware that the Panasonic S5 can record unlimited in both 4K 8 bit and 1080HD 10 bit which is great but it would be nice if Panasonic just did that last little thing fro the Panasonic S5.
What conversion lut did you use for the Sony? My skin tones often come out more to the red side of things. I just use the colour space transform in DaVinci. Both look great though!
Davinci .cine/slog3 conversion. The a7iv leans more muted/green compared to a lot of other sonys.
Is it easy to match the two cameras V-log and S-log in post ?
The autofocus is definitely a headache on the S5 but mannnnn $1500 right brand new? With the video specs and image quality, I think it’s a steal. Maybe not for portrait photographers lol
Panasonic Full Frame cameras have the best colour depth of any FF cameras out their, the CFA filter Panasonic is using is very thick and produces excellent colour separation, I seen many portrait photographers with S1R
I thought the colours on the skin was cooler on the S5 but you could always warm it up with a qualifier if you use Davinci Resolve
Where in the world did you get the REC 709 lut for the Panasonic S5? 😮😮 The video quality for the S5 is way better than I thought and this is from a person who owns S5!
I'm curious on your thought of the panasonic bsh1. Not sure if you know much about it or have looked into it, just curious.
Not having a decent screen is whack. So i wont be looking into that.
@@spensersakurai Dang......but true tho.
I actually picked the s5 over the a7iv as a b cam to my fx3.. much cheaper, and for sit down side angles, autofocus still works just fine. It's pretty noticeable the pink coloration of the s5. In most situations I like it, and as you said, it's easy to color match to the more orange sony
Why AF at all in that scenario?
@@motorcycle-man the option is nice when having a tight shot and shallow depth of field + Full frame sensor, but is not needed. I do want AF for the other things I do - photography, and a standalone camera if I rent my fx3 out. I have not found a reliable way to use the AF though in video outside of a talking head to be honest
So how do you use your LUTs with the A7 IV and it's exposure? Still exposing up two stops?
Is it true that the A74 can output ProRes RAW?
No
@@christopherlane5910 yes, I thought so too.
Hi great Comparaison,
And love your Channel
Little contextual infos
I have 2 BMPCC4K and one 6k, plus some GH5,5s I bought all second hand because I am mostly shooting classical music concerts and I needed a lot of cameras for it and MFT BMPCC 2Hand was the way to go to start making Videos ...I am coming from Audio where I mostly do multimic recording up to big orchestra formation...but lately more demand for Video so had to reshape my services.
First of all Blackmagic Video Assist was the best purchase I have made recently,in combo with S5 it is like you said a FF BMPCC...👍👍👍👍
You are right about the internal vs brawl codecs...it is not such a big difference.
Even for matching the cameras...thanks to my mix camerabrand purchase I had to be fit in colormatching and learn to do it properly and still learning.
But yes Braw Vlog is easier to match with Gen5 Bmpcc.
IR pollution with BMPCC4K 6K is noticable,I did not find it in S5...
Overall S5 is a great camera...but what about sigma fp I have already plenty of cameras but I am still intrigued about Sigma FP used...I follow your channel since some times and what are you thinking about the esthetic aspect of the image? S5 vs FP?
Complementary? different? Braw FP?
If you have time to give me an Answer thanks in advance but it is not a must...
Like your channel anyway.
Filip
1 month from now "why i sold my a7IV for the fx3" lol
Both are very good. Bought S5 for $1300 with kit lens so now can invest $1200 to make almost complete video kit for the price of body only of Sony. But I love Sony and would definitely switch if I have more money
I recent time I look at the Panasonic S5 as a full frame Panasonic G9
Hey since you have the a7iv right now is their any chance to get a hold of the Fujinon mk x 18-55 t2.9 cine lens and try it in crop mode. That would be a cool video to make.
Where does sigma fp fall in this shootout on image quality alone? I'm so close to pulling that trigger.
both great cameras, sadly the official lumix rec709 conversion lut they give it's not the best, many have complained about it. I choose to use the 55media lut conversion to rec709 and it looks stunning.
Did he use the Panasonic Lut? I also have the 55media Lutpack. But there are so many different that i get confused. Which of them do you like the most?
I like Panasonic's "Nicest" LUT.
I don’t use luts but daVinci cst
definitely want to see a full BRAW on the S5 comparison.. :)
Looked very similar. s5 had a pleasing magenta tint. A7iv could look like this with a bit more saturation and magenta shift but with autofocus etc.
Both camera's are on my shopping list
panasonic s5 all day if AF is not an issue
Your shots came out mostly as expected with the Sony more toward the greenish side & the Lumix more toward magenta. Didn't expect the apparent difference in punchiness though.
I have never, ever had the fake autofocus problems on any lumix camera that I own that everyone complains about. Its operator error.
Thanks again for sharing these tests, also addressing the rolling shutter this time. Quite impressive how it almost vanishes in Super 35 mode. I do like skin tones much better in A7IV shots. Sony has really improved these with the A7IV. Quite intrigued to get it as lightweight Super 35 cam.
seems that sony has slight;y better dynamic range and highlights roll off?
While the image quality and colour are better on the S5, the Sony A7IV is better for Vlogging and solo shooting because of the AF and cheaper lenses on the used market. Choose wisely.
Then the a7c is the one ☝️
Great video I wish you would matched the skin tones for that last shot, it’s hard to judge with such pink skin from the S5. I know it can be fixed but it would’ve been great to see it fix😃
I'd bet that the artist in that shot just has skin that is on the pink side. Maybe Spencer could weigh in.
The panasonic rec709 leans a little magenta and the a7iv leans a little green. Neither were skin accurate.
@@spensersakurai how do you make the s5 skin tones look smooth with no pink ?
@@creativegreats6924 remove with a color wheel or use Leemings Pro Luts to fix the colors 😊
wtf A7IV in highlights looks like a mobile phone footage. Check out windows behind the dancer
Not familiar with the lumix but it looks better to me 🤷♂️
Pink tone vs Green?
slight different skintones was the only thing i could see but thats an post issue.
Nice Video, both these camera's look great!
panasonic s5 skin tone do look more real to me
A7iv in s35 mode + speedbooster + cine lens? 🤪
😂I just gave away my Korg Monologue and my Arturia Minibrute...Now I’m pissed!😂
Great Video.
I have both, couldn't help myself. Vlog is better than slog3, in my opinion.
I just want lumix with fucking good eye AF is that so much to ask?
Good is always gogo
Sony has like the color in sony
Sony is known for their red ♥️ and the S5 got Sony beats
I can't see any difference at all. Maybe, the Panasonic skin color is more red than Sony... The autofocus from this Sony have to be better (in that case: I will get the Sony).
The A7IV doesn't support video raw at all. Really unfortunate that Sony likes to artificially limit their cameras like this.
Good focus on S5. Why is everyone talking that there is no focus on S5?
Cuz it’s terrible
I was not able to take constellations pictures with my LUMIX S5. But I have a lot more to learn of its menu system
Owner of a S5 and a a7IV. If you're in a budget and you're thinking about getting a S5, remember that you don't have the Tamron or Samyang third party lens to buy and the L mount lens collection is short.
In a budget can't be the main reason to buy a Lumix S5. If you use a lot of AF, specially in video, the camera is not that good compared to the a7iv.
Woooooo!
Lumix looks more filmic, sony is sharper. I have both cameras, for video shooter which does not need top AF and can color well himself, I would say A7IV is a waste of money. I do not even want to compare it for handheld video, as S5 kills Sony in this comparison. Lumix feels better in hands. But sony has nicer color profiles from the camera, and as I said, it is a tad sharper so it is better for photographer, not that S5 is not tack sharp, but Sony is a bit sharper.
Yeah, Sony cameras have more baked in sharpness (and noise reduction). You have to move up to something like FX6 or FX9 to get rid of it. I always prefer to do sharpness in post if needed in certain shots so I highly prefer Panasonic cameras. This can be easily seen by comparing A7III to S5 since they have the same sensor. A7III has that digital artificial sharpness and the S5 looks much more natural and closer to celluloid. This despite the A7III having a partial OLPF while the S5 has none.
@@Fedorevsky In this case I meant, detail as well. You can see the difference between 33mpx and 24mpx, it is more detailed, not that it looks more cinematic.
@@sjmedia_official Maybe a bit. Both shoot 4k down-sampled from a much higher mpx count so there would be a tiny bit of a difference there I guess. However I think the A7IV has an OLPF softening the image so most of that difference would probably be negated.
@@Fedorevsky well, I both cams produce very nice pictures, but I will be still using Black Pro Mist 1/8 with both of them for sure
@@sjmedia_official Me too! Sometimes stronger depending on wat I'm shooting.
recently，I found my S5 skintone looks so red or pink, I think the Lumix color science is not better than before.
I prefer the A74 for the skin tones. The S5 is to pink/red for my taste.
Maybe you should walk outside and look at people this time, you wont see orange skin tones, their skin colour is gonna be various orange-pink colours, if you want orange skin colours, use makeup and stop being a freak trying to control everything in camera, good video is made with good sets.
I am getting my Komodo tomorrow, I have A7IV and A7sIII, and I like A7IV much better, cleaner and sharper, thus far none of these SLR, DSLR, Mirrorless truly give you that 24fps cinematic look of Arri even when using cine match or arri lut, it's just not the same, then I see Komodo which is very similar to these cameras, but let's hope with my DZO cine lens I get something more out of it. I love that details on the face when you see a Hollywood film, like you can see those pours on the cheeks and that depth in the face with likes of Arri Mini, Mini LF, BMPCC just feels like a super16mmm look which is truly cinematic, but ways to go. One thing I have noticed clearly is when I shot with my R5 8K Raw, the image just was way different than 10 bit sony or even 10 bit canon, something about raw that just brings out more color, depth and roll off highlights. If Sony had given an internal raw recording i wouldn't have even thought about Komodo. The only true cinematic look I have seen out of a hybrid camera is Sigma FP and Canon 5Dmark II with magic lantern. I loved that progressive scan of frame where each frame is an image rather than a motion capture. Would love to see you use cinema lenses on these cameras and see the difference.
first ❤️❤️🎥
Nope
lumix color is less generic tbh
Lumix S5 best video than Sony and Sony hiting eshu v
this must be filmed in Portland OR. where youre more likely to step in human filth on the sidewalks - than a dog's.
Don't forget the drug needles!
Sony has a plastic look, S5 all day!
A7iv is a winner crazy such good price for a hybrid camera !!
This is a rediculous comparison.
The A7iv doesn’t output raw in any flavor.