I really liked how realistic this anime was about the industry. Obviously it's nice to have idol media like Psekai and Love Live and other optimistic takes on the industry, but it's good to be aware of how hard it is to really make it in this competition.
Speaking of Love Live, the latest member who left Nijigasaki might've been something's going on behind the scenes instead of her quitting as the news published.
pjsekai wasnt a very optimistic take on the idol industry (shizuku being practically bullied out of her agency and airi being pushed away from being an idol, prime example shizuku tho) but i agree
That this was ven produced must have taken some serious intention. I guarantee AKB48 and other agenceis fought to not have this released. Stuff like this shown to teens, the typical audience for teen anime will do a lot to make them look more seriously at not being idols. and instead stay in school and go join a club.
@@EndoftheBeginning17 Yeah, I am amazed that influential people in idol industry didn't try to stop the manga. I guess the publisher being Shueisha, one of the biggest publishers in Japan's light novel and manga industry has something to with it. Otherwise, the big leagues would have threatened Akasaka.
7:20 My jaw literally dropped when i heard the words, "If you're going to quit, you need to pay 100 million yen", like who tf does the staff thinks he/she is to force someone to pay up because she cannot tolerate the harsh training? This is just outrageous
“If you get thrown into the adult world and you can’t read kanji, It’ll be super miracle embarrassing.” Really shows how much research Aka Akasaka does, considering this very thing happened in a later arc.
Adding to the title: Not just Japan's but also for Korean Industry as well, (Kpop stars mainly) In Korean Industry, almost all "Oshi no Ko" dark situations are also very much common there. And some those idol groups, its common for idol as young as 16 years old to be part of idol industries. They started young and being trained. and the training is brutal as well. And since K-pop is the worldwide now, you can check all controversies and issues that are fairly recent and very easy to look up for resources and references. For example, few idols has committed suicides, and all of them were closed friends (I won't give out a name, but I just hoping no more please) There are few more Aqua&Ruby's "dad" similar stories, such as, There is one influencer that has been sleeping many girls, and also gaslighting them when those girls learned that he has been giving STD towards these girls, and he will continue to do so for the next victim. This guy used to be in alot host shows, has been doin charity talks, reality shows... He is young and very charismatic, with so many girl fans. Those victims were having hard times to expose him, since, majority of k-fans were defending him, (and his PR team made it worst too), so they used legal way to handle this issue. This case might took awhile to be settled, but the guy finally landed in jail. This is not the first time things happened, and there are many more stories, some worst and creepy. For stalkers: Sasaeng fan 사생팬 You can check the interview of one of them in RUclips. For "purity": And yeah all those big names k-idol groups, have a contract on NOT to date anyone. So for those who has been exposed for dating, basically mean they are also breaking the contract, which mean, is really a big problem. and they usually being adviced to do media conferences just to apologize that they are dating (Notes: They have huge issues with bullies and cyberbullies, so you can already guess what happened next) Of course, every entertainment industry have their own ugly dark sides of its truth: Streamers, Vtubers, heck, even in Hollywoods too. Korean industries are just one of them. But since they are the top no.1 worldwide popular now, these facts are just open secret, and many of similar cases that being mentioned in "Oshi no Ko" are fairly new and easy to look up for research (to see more reality of "Oshi no Ko", kpop world are just the easiest to find for real world case references (if you are willing to see more triggering stories)
I'd argue that korean industry more harsh and dangerous than japanese one. In Japan among people, Idol is mostly seen as part-time not serious job and only make up 20% of the music industry. The harsh part will mostly come from toxic fan, bad management, "menhara" toxic idols type but also the other unsupervised underground Idols environment. AKB48 is probably one of the "healthiest" one as the members usually tell upon entry why they decided to join the group (some as a way to have fun before college, some for a part time job, some to make contacts...), which is why them being perfect at singing or dancing doesn't matter and also why the graduation system and the members replacement work well in Japan (but toxic fan will exist in any industry). As for the dating thing, it's only concern minors as it's follows japanese school rules ban on dating. Adults can date as long as they do it off screen and in secret and unrelated to their Idol work (not like a certain AKB member who was dating a Yakuza and was threatening other members...). And Adult idols usually don't stay more than 3 years unless they really want to be an Idol like Jurina. If they want to continue in the music industry they simply transition into becoming musical artist and not Idol. In SKorea, Idol make up 90% of the music industry, which force anyone who want to be recognize for their singing, acting or dancing to be put under the trainee system. But the trainee system is a trap, it's free while they are training, if they decide to leave, they have to pay the years they have been training (usually ~7000$/year). If they decide to stay, they have to wait until they are chosen which usually take 5 years. And if they have the chance to debut, they won't be paid until their training debt is clear. But management also create tensions in the group, because each member have their own debt amount, but if one member finally clear their debt, they have the choice to pay for other members - which can cause things like abuse of power and clan inside the group. The harsh part come from within the whole divertissement industry rules, the debt, the attention to the most of the little detail, but also the shame culture on itself. The simple concept of having a member being attributed the role of "Visual" already tells a lot when you see the most regular fan criticizing and ranking any Idol by their appearance without any embarrassment as if they were talking about the weather. Only recently this role have changed to the "face of the group" but before 2016, oh damn it's just meant "we choose him not for his talent but cuz he looks pretty".
@@narudayo5053 in terms of dating and sex life for example i would say Is really harder the Japanese than Korean, theres cases in Japan of idols that have strictly no dating, cases like Haruhi Suzumiya seiyuu she was on an idol group and for having a sexual life people starting sending her death threads and i think to this day she hasn't comeback to do voice acting or the group, other is on a group, Minami Minegishi was punished with cutting her hair for being with a man and recorded an apology, she was on AKB48, resently there's a change but is slower, would like to add to your first point, that in Japan the idol image not only a job not taken so seriously but depend idol can be a transition to an actress, model or artist(that are better seen with a couple), in Japan the idol image defers from K-pop, in jpop Is more about the feeling of a "friend or a girl next door that casualy is an idol" and the idea of growing personally with the idol, so in order to maintain that image a lot of agencies give little classes to the trainees, while in K-pop there more of a perfect image, in K-pop theres agencies like JYP who has a rule of three years with no dating, some say just don't get caught and others are completely no,depend more on the company.
This whole anime brings so much information about the idol industry. Along with strict rules of agencies and stalkings like in real life situations. Really scary
Gonna repeat myself for the billionth time, Oshi no Ko is NOT the first to show the cruel reality of idols. 1st Idol Anime Movie: Perfect Blue 1st Idol Anime Series: IDOLiSH7
Yes but it is definitely more true to the current entertainment industry. Perfect blue is a masterpiece and much ahead of its time but things have changed a lot since then. Not to mention it sheds a light at a lot more than idols, from drama adaptations to reality t.v shows to adverse effect of the entertainer's mental health due to cyber bullying and internet, it goes deep. It may not be the first but it is definitely necessary.
@@BruvvaJosh Idk if this needs to be said but most normal people probably don't bother seeing those. But I do agree the idol industry being toxic is not a super obscure info. It's nothing people who have been on this side of the internet didn't already knew even before this came out.
And real situation is much-much worse than that. Plus - stalkers stabbing idols is not as rare of happening. Also, similar is with young k-pop singers, who are signing contracts at same age 10-12.
If stalkers stabbing idols is not rare, please give me 3 examples. Do not include the stalker stabbing the non-idol. Nor the non-stalker slashing the idols. As these obviously don't count under the "stalkers stabbing idols" category. If this actually is a common occurrence I'd like to give appropriate examples.
to be frank when I saw Ai get killed by a fan remembered me of Rushia getting harassed by "fans" for having friend to play games with her which is a boy and quiting due to that. People don't know nothing about their lives but still think they own "idols" lifes just because they're fans and think they can do whatever they want.
that wasn't why rushia was fired. she was fired because after her agency tried to protect her on social media, she went running to a japanese rumor-tuber and started spilling the dating lives of other hololive talents in an effort to take the heat off herself. the rumor-tuber, cautious about japan's liable laws (you can be sued for liable, even if what you say is true) talked to someone in hololive's management about what he was told to see if he could get permission to talk about it. this ended up with the whole thing being addressed in an internal meeting, at which time rushia was encouraged to take a break. she was put on hiatus, fans thought it was for the guy thing, and she doubled down on stupid and contacted two more drama-tubers to try to doxx/out the love lives of other hololive talents, even claiming she was being bullied by one of her sempai.... this all got back to management and they fired her rushia was a very disturbed girl... that said, i get how social media can make someone panic when they're the target of the hate. and hololive is partly to blame for not defending her immediately, but waiting 3 days before releasing a luke warm statement of support. had they supported her harder the might not have felt like she needed to get the mob to attack her coworkers instead and tried to leak dirt on other girls in hololive. still i'm reminded of towa getting into the same problem years before rushia, and it was the forign fan's support that helped her pull through the social media shit storm. as the english speaking fans of towa were very supportive while she was being destroyed by the japanese fans for being an apparent slut (because talking to a guy irl apparently means your sleeping with him, and frankly, who's business is it of anyone who she spends her nights with?).
That part got me, too. My heart aches for that poor girl. To apologize for being assaulted and victimized by your own "fans" is truly vile and horrific. Idols are people, not commodities, and the fact that there's a whole industry and system that says otherwise is disgusting.
also personally akiba idol music is not my music taste and i feel idol fans dont even care about good music that are fun to listen these guys just simp the idol. because they never had a girlfriend in they life
What do you expect from an industry that can be summed up to "hey there's a lot of lonely sad people out there, let's squeeze their money by selling them fantasies about girls/boys who care about them"
It's not only idol's - didn't Levi's Japanese voice actor apologize for having a child and being a father? It's kinda ridiculous. Anyway - I think agencies should put a stop into this girlfriend/boyfriend marketing scheme. It attracts mentally ill people who think just because they have spend money on you, you owe them something. I see the fault in the industry, because these people tend to spend tens of thousands of dollars on an idol or similar - you would need thousands of normal fans to make up for one obsessed type. So they cultivate them, until ... well, one of them thinks they developed a relationship with said idol and becomes entitled.
But hey atleast he is happy with family. Anyways, sometimes the agencies let their idols have freedom to have a family OUTSIDE of their work (Atleast their helping the low birthrates in Japan)
i am a fan of Kozue Aikawa, a dancer idol (not a singer), and she has posted a video or 2 in her personal yt channel talking about her depression in the idol industry, she was a part of danceroid, a very popular dance group back in the day, but quit. She has quit many groups before and not long after posting that depressive video in which she also cried a bunch, she had joined another, which really shouws once you start it's really hard to leave, she is 30 years old right now and has been dancing in groups for more than 13 years now, it makes me really sad and worried for her, i admire her a lot as someone from the vocaloid fandom (she usually dances to vocaloid music) but honestly.. i feel horrible, ever since i watched that video i just want her to have a normal job and record dancing as a hobby perhaps, but despite that being a happier path, it seems it's too late for her to turn back now, it really really makes me sad
Almost everyone is focusing on the "exposing the idol industry" concept of Oshi No Ko. While the exact theme of Oshi No Ko revolves heavily on the commentary of Entire Entertainment Industry globally. For example, the Reality Dating Arc is a commentary about the netizen's toxic overreaction and the producer's incompetence in resolving a conflict they started due to their irresponsible decisions on which scenes to put in the show. There are also the commentary about poor manga/ light novel adaptation in the Kana's episode. The Tokyo Blade Arc highlights too many issues in the industry by the lens of each actor. There is that predatory behavior of older actors or producers toward younger talents, the effect of fame toward familial bonds, relationship between co-stars, etc. Every issue presented by Oshi No Ko, reflects not only Japan's Idol industry nor only Japan's Entertainment Industry's problems but the Problem of the Entertainment Industry in General. Focusing only on Ai, forgetting that 70% of the story is Aqua's POV and only 20% of it was Ruby's so far.
You know what I find funny that japanese idol fans/or just regular obsessive idol fans would make there "idols" cry and sad that just makes you a jerk and not a idol fan at all. The idols can love whoever they want imo cause they're human just like you and all of us and if you can't accept that then you must really think she is a robot or doll or something. Thanks Neko Reviews for showing this cause it shows ppl the stupidity of obessive fans and the sadness and pain of these idol groups and how they have a hard time after they get fire. Sigh its sad to see how things are like this.
That’s what I love so much about oshi no ko. And not just about Ai. About the whole entertainment industry. The manga is even more accurate with its portrayal with the entertainment industry, cosplay, social media, etc
I know the anime is in super early stages, but I CANNOT recommend reading the manga enough. It goes even more indepth about the entertainment industry and beyond. I can't wait to see how they continue to adapt the manga, because so far I am glad to see they stayed pretty on point.
I've never been obsessive about idols and a huge dork for gaming, so I've been wondering for a long time about idols and vtubers... Personally if I see an vtuber / idol have a significant other, I'd be very happy and would like to hear inspiring stories about it... But maybe I was naive to think that way. There's a deep rooted jealousy and suffering going on here that is way beyond my understanding. Maybe... they just wanted to hold on hope that "she's mine", owning her in their own definition.
Bear in mind that the situation on the EN side is radically different. Labor laws + culture in the more developed English speaking countries mean that very few minors are involved, especially at the corporate level. And when fans figure out that the one random indie they like is underage, they are far more likely to become actively protective. Like having a kid sister they're encouraging. Live "idol" culture is itself not so much of a thing, and tends to be dominated by Disney (who will mess your life up legally speaking if you mess with their talents). And vtuber culture isn't seen so much as a "I can be a star" option, it's more of a "I can't find a job outside retail, and I'm a big geek" option. On top of that, a lot of them are struggling with anxiety, depression, etc. They're doing vtubing in part because they get to be more social without the same stress as venturing Outside. So that cute girl character is far more likely to be older than her simps, and far less likely to lean so hard into the "pretend girlfriend" thing. If she isn't single, she might just not talk about it directly to fans. If she is, it's far more likely to be because she's similar to her socially inept fans, and they like her more because of that. It all ends up very different from the JP system. And as more EN vtubers move away from "cute girls doing cute things", there's increasingly going to be situations like on a Rin Penrose stream recently. Where she basically said, would you be bothered if your favorite vtuber was over 30? And a bunch of replies saying they would actively prefer it.
The whole "idol" logic is cringe especially when its taken too far. You are at the mercy of the producers and fans alike so you cannot have your own life to live. I remember the incident with the japanese wrestler, Hana Kimura, the fans and producers took advantage of her and sadly ended her own life. Luckily idol is not as popular in western cultures.
The main problem with the underground idol industry is dissonance between contracts and reality. It is extremely competitive and oversaturated, with groups constantly being created or restarted, or disbanding or restructuring The overall "idol fanbase" can't grow at the pace in which new groups are formed, so there will always be "too many". And that means groups at the edge of viability will have a bad time. Now, if you understand that you're essentially in a "garage band" then you know you probably won't make any money from the work- or at least not money justifying the time invested. And you are okay with that or quit and move on. But these idol contracts have stipulations and penalties as if they're a major company when they're more like a garage band that can't even guarantee salary. If you can't actually pay they shouldn't have to stay. And if they aren't fit to stay they shouldn't have to pay.
People are now always talking about Oshi no Ko because of its latest anime episodes release. It makes me feel like no knew about this through the "unpopular" movie Perfect Blue. It is really a shame that people watches anime most of the time because of looks. However, I understand that it is to introduce to a younger audience with it because Perfect Blue is indeed very dark.
If someone asks me why I dispise K-pop so much, I'll show them this anime. I read all the manga chapters btw and there's a lot of portrayals of real life problems in the entertainment industry, this series is so meaningful.
The idol industry in Japan is depressingly exploitative and messed up, which is reflective of Japanese culture. However, the "adult" industry in Japan is even worse, and the idol industry is like a mini-adult industry. That's more covered in the manga "Ashita, Watashi wa Dareka no Kanojo".
Great video, really informative. I'm more of a Anime & Manga fan, rather than a fan of J-Pop/K-Pop. But i've watched a documentry about the Idol music industry in South Korea. Really shocking. Yes, Western girl bands put up with a lot of BS too, but it's a whole different level in Asia. I couldn't imagine any Western music artist making a public apology after being assaulted by an obsessive fan.
japanese girl idol is like manga vs comics or anime vs cartoon. it may bare the name "Idol", but it's actually a "classification" of its own. It's a quick way to join the entertainment industry, and it a stepping stone to the national stage. In that sense, these girls are all in "training", and you don't expect the same level of professionalism or talent to other professional groups. So "graduation" also means they have finish the training. Then of course this could only applied to those remain in the industry and not just faded away.
About Maho: the AKB election you had said ended after 2019 exactly beacuse of Mahos, beeacuse later was discoveried that was another idol of her group that gave doxxed her to a Stalker fan so Maho would get into trouble and prejudicate her in the Idol voting, instead of protect Maho and punish the bad idols, they decided to punish Maho Thankfuly Maho is ok nowadays, working as Actress and as TV Variety Guest
Here on idol industry have harsh situations takes a lot of hard work, pure skill and luck. Also the idol's image. My older sister's friend who aims to be idol seriously, but the reality turns ups and downs. Here in Japan many crazy psychotic hardcore fanboys due to serial killings. Everything wasn't perfect, if I were you.
Supposedly, the tragic event that happened to Ai Hoshino was actually based on a true story. In 2016, Mayu Tomita was stabbed repeatedly in her neck and chest by Tomohiro Iwazaki but survived. Just like Ai, the one who attacked her was a fan. But unlike Ai, she was attacked for sending back a gift from him which was some books and a watch.
Actually, Mayu Tomita is still alive. She survived despite the stab wounds but was traumatized. What probably saved her was that none of the stab wounds reached any her vital organs. In Ai’s case, she was stabbed in the abdomen and died from internal bleeding. It may be true that Ai Hoshino’s death drew inspiration from Mayu Tomita.
Mayu Tomita is, and was at the time singer-songwriter. Maybe some people got confused because she has the same name (different kanji though) of an idol? Heck, if you look the name up in google right now the first thing that appears is "stabbing of Mayu Tomita" and off to the right is... a picture of the OTHER Mayu Tomita. These are different people. I don't know if this is done out of ignorance or maliciously, but the one who was stabbed would NOT be considered an idol in the way it's mainly used in Japan. It could still of course be inspiration. Just more tangentially to reality than people may think.
@@cessna172ident I am sorry for the incorrect information, I did not mean to spread fake news. I myself did not know until you told me. I have edited my comment to include the correct information.
I'm kind of surprised that this video did not mention about what kind of "audience" do these idols have... Usually and most of them are all grown up men...
The election thing only happened in AKB, it is *not* a staple of idol groups as a whole. Additionally, they don't have to graduate or even contemplate it if they don't make it into the election. The point of AKB is "idols you can meet", meaning they have a theater where they perform all the time. The members who don't make it into the singles still have a place in the group as the theater needs to function somehow. Also, yes, idols should keep up with their social media to engage with fans, but that's kinda the whole point of being an idol. If not the whole point, it's at least a big part of it, otherwise they could just try something more specific right away like acting or singing. Basically all this to say that while yes, the industry has a terrible dark side, so do any other branches of the entertainment industry. Plus, I don't understand how it takes an anime for people to see this? If you pay attention to idols at all it should be very easy to notice how tough the industry is. Doesn't mean that it can't be good also. If it was all bad we wouldn't have this many idols.
_"yes, the industry has a terrible dark side / Doesn't mean that it can't be good also."_ Unfortunately, majority of people have no actual clue about the idol scene and think they know everything juste because they've watched Oshi no Ko and Perfect Blue once. Those videos and articles about "exposing the truth blah blah blah" are all spreading the same old biased generalisations, misconceptions and wrong assumptions. But what can we do 🤷♂
Oshi no ko maybe fictional, but it is most based on reality. I've learned so much about the dark side of this industry. Still, many people dream of becoming an idol, whether it is out of passion or fame. I don't think it's a safe place. The fans there r too toxic. When it comes to young girls perverted men become their fans, some r for their talent while most r for their pretty faces. I think that amount of hard work should be better to put in academics or sports
As Manga Reader I can say that oshi no ko doesn't only show idol's dark secrets but also the dark truth about the actors/actresses and the whole entertainment industry of Japan. The issues that idols and celebrities to face like scandals and social media toxicity
When I was 5 I'd had fun watching k pop and j pop idols I didn't know a cruel reality before,but tho now I'm 10 turning 11 is starting to realise this really sad truth about k pop and j pop idol industry,I feel bad for the idols that are depressed
Warning for spoilers: Oshi No Ko might be the first ever anime that made me sob like a baby, sure Spy X Family made me cry for only 1 episode, but Oshi No Ko made me sob alot, Ai getting murdered because of a obsessive fan, Akane getting deppresion because of backlash and tried to attempt to jump, or maybe more episodes coming soon will make me sob way too much. Idols may make you happy, but what about the Idols?
Now i want an anime about the dark truth of anime animators In Japan Like MAPPA animators feels like they haven't seen their families for a year Edit:spelling
I think there's also some other stuff like surgery, looks, having your hair the right length and what not... and I feel like Akane is a prime example of someone who's had to alter their appearance and themselves in order to succeed, given that they used to have super long hair but had to get it cut cause it was too heavy for them? I dunno... I just like long hair and hate that she cut it... Gotta do what you gotta do... although it seems convenient that the loss of all that hair coincided with the next scenes with her looking more serious, and less bright eyed like before...
I seriously enjoyed this video! But, very small correction, AKB48’s Graduation isn’t just a nice word for termination, Graduation is 100% the Idol’s Choice. Where the idol will then be arranged a graduation concert and a photoshoot to take their photo off of the photo wall (which is you can probably guess a wall of all of the members of AKB48) Then there’s a Withdrawl which is where the idol by choice leaves quietly. While the equivalent of Termination is called Dismissal.
I remember one case from a video Coffee house made about a singer murdered by her own fans and it was gut wrenching, before the crime happen the killer wait on a line for a sign and photograph but when it was his turn he just stand there, the singer sense a akward situation so she tried to avoid the akward interaction by try gave him a hug but what she got was bullet and her own brother witness the incident too.
Without those obsessive fans, who's left to buy all the limited edition CDs merchandises? Or go to the handshake events, photo events, concerts? Gravure photobooks, etc? Who's gonna give them that sweet sweet money? The lifeblood of the industry itself is problematic.
Not just idol but entertainment industry as a whole !!! Also anyone who’s a crazy fan would probably die or kill Someone over it we call em a term from a Eminem Music video we call theses guys and girls “ Stans “
People whether online or offline need to understand that these idols are HUMANS like US. STOP OBSESSING over them and STOP USING them. LET them LIVE AS HUMANS fgs. People think these stars are their private property off cost wth.
In 2020 Japanese wrestler 22 year old Hana Kimura sadly took her life from being in Netflix Terrace House . She was dating a young star name Kai Kobayashi . In a Ep he wash her wrestling gear and shrink . She slap his hat of of his head . Than she started getting death threat and making fun of she is mix race . But she was told be to behave aggressive for for views
I used to be love live Fan from 2014 after the accidental discovery of the freemium game school idol festival. Two years into my fandom that dream ended up turning into a nightmare after being pushed around by aggressive and obsessed fans while I attended a convention then on the last day of September the freemium game suffered from a major failure of DCL failure, that is common issue with online services when Downloadable content isn’t properly tested on existing software/online game. The customer support was worse I’ve ever across after despite that lasted almost 4 years. I’ve concluded that customer service was not within a professional standard they were being deceptive and misleading and unconscious misconduct after they tried to blame me that it was condition of device when in fact it was a cause of common flaw with these online services that can happen at anytime no matter how old or new the hardware or the device. What I had gone though I felt directly violated by the franchise. I since then this one franchise caused to me to de trust two whole industry’s including interactive online gaming and J idols including k pop. What I’ve learned is that it’s all driven by money and greed and when fans became easily upset it will have impact to the company bottom line.
its not only in japan, in south korea and china Idols there also suffer the same problem with stalkers and a**holes from the media trying to get every bit of reason to make these idols seem like evil lying monsters, especially twitter and some news channels
When I watched the 1st episode I immediately remembered Hirate Yurina accident when she was 15 and someone tried to stab her in a fan event. this is real events right here
so this kind of industry is dangerous in the first place, first they need audience so they make one that audience become a fan, since the idols income depends on their fan, means that the fans providing their life and then fans would think that they own their idol for themself, and thats how fanatics fans created.
@@nhatminhhoa Well perfect Blue tackles Idol's, Oshi tackles actors, TV shows (the reality ones), and how you get roles etc. There's even a part where a certain someone almost sells themselves to a director in the manga.
WILDDDDDDDDDDDD THEORY, Ai's talent based on HER eyes is lying rightt?? and on the scene of her death in the anime her eyes GLOWS when she told the stalker that even now she is trying to love HIM. Which means she isn't!? EVEN AT THE BEGINNING WHEN AQUA BARGES IN I MEAN LIKE BROOOOO
oshi no ko is moe common in korea but something like perfect blue is in japan for me oshi no ko is soft tbh but if you dont know perfect blue and cried to oshi no ko big warning pls dont watch it
I Remember the AKB48 Empire Mayu Watanabe was the Love of my life and she became Queen in 2014, but sadly after 2018 the AKB fall and by 2020 it fell like Western Roman Empire and by 2023 it's dead.. I miss the idol era, yes in the West people still think idols are still a thing but it's falling.
This is way more inspired from K-pop industry, I mean, have you ever heard about a japanese idol taking her life? No, but that continually happens with K-pop.
I will reform is necessary. There should be balance in a life in an idle. Their hours should be no more than 16 hours a day idols cannot perform without written permission from their parents Also, they should be supervise by a guardian, while performing idols cannot alone with her managers Strict rules can also be replaced with more liberal rules allow with work balance
I'm not going to lie I really wish some Japanese girl and women don't have to be an idol star because he keeps doing a lot of pressure but it felt like you're just trying to be a prisoner that's just sad being famous assist not everything you know the only thing you would have is freedom that's your choice if you don't want to be an idol or if you don't want to be any of those Idols then don't be. I know singing is a dream any reality they just kept you like a slave that's just wrong and the idol industry should be ashamed of themselves
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I really liked how realistic this anime was about the industry. Obviously it's nice to have idol media like Psekai and Love Live and other optimistic takes on the industry, but it's good to be aware of how hard it is to really make it in this competition.
Speaking of Love Live, the latest member who left Nijigasaki might've been something's going on behind the scenes instead of her quitting as the news published.
pjsekai wasnt a very optimistic take on the idol industry (shizuku being practically bullied out of her agency and airi being pushed away from being an idol, prime example shizuku tho) but i agree
That this was ven produced must have taken some serious intention. I guarantee AKB48 and other agenceis fought to not have this released. Stuff like this shown to teens, the typical audience for teen anime will do a lot to make them look more seriously at not being idols. and instead stay in school and go join a club.
@@mikkakisaragi8837 if your talking about setsuna yuki’s va, she quit voicing her because of health reasons
@@EndoftheBeginning17 Yeah, I am amazed that influential people in idol industry didn't try to stop the manga. I guess the publisher being Shueisha, one of the biggest publishers in Japan's light novel and manga industry has something to with it. Otherwise, the big leagues would have threatened Akasaka.
7:20 My jaw literally dropped when i heard the words, "If you're going to quit, you need to pay 100 million yen", like who tf does the staff thinks he/she is to force someone to pay up because she cannot tolerate the harsh training? This is just outrageous
“If you get thrown into the adult world and you can’t read kanji, It’ll be super miracle embarrassing.”
Really shows how much research Aka Akasaka does, considering this very thing happened in a later arc.
Oh I watched that.. I hope she's okay
is it that one panel where one of the tokyo blade actors doesn't know a kanji word or somewhere else.
@@kavoo0 Yes. I’m impressed you remember this scene.
@@kavoo0 Yes. I’m impressed you remember this scene.
@@Murpler i got caught up with the manga after binge watching the anime so its still relatively fresh in my head
Adding to the title: Not just Japan's but also for Korean Industry as well, (Kpop stars mainly) In Korean Industry, almost all "Oshi no Ko" dark situations are also very much common there. And some those idol groups, its common for idol as young as 16 years old to be part of idol industries. They started young and being trained. and the training is brutal as well. And since K-pop is the worldwide now, you can check all controversies and issues that are fairly recent and very easy to look up for resources and references.
For example, few idols has committed suicides, and all of them were closed friends (I won't give out a name, but I just hoping no more please)
There are few more Aqua&Ruby's "dad" similar stories, such as, There is one influencer that has been sleeping many girls, and also gaslighting them when those girls learned that he has been giving STD towards these girls, and he will continue to do so for the next victim. This guy used to be in alot host shows, has been doin charity talks, reality shows... He is young and very charismatic, with so many girl fans. Those victims were having hard times to expose him, since, majority of k-fans were defending him, (and his PR team made it worst too), so they used legal way to handle this issue. This case might took awhile to be settled, but the guy finally landed in jail. This is not the first time things happened, and there are many more stories, some worst and creepy.
For stalkers: Sasaeng fan 사생팬 You can check the interview of one of them in RUclips.
For "purity": And yeah all those big names k-idol groups, have a contract on NOT to date anyone. So for those who has been exposed for dating, basically mean they are also breaking the contract, which mean, is really a big problem. and they usually being adviced to do media conferences just to apologize that they are dating (Notes: They have huge issues with bullies and cyberbullies, so you can already guess what happened next)
Of course, every entertainment industry have their own ugly dark sides of its truth: Streamers, Vtubers, heck, even in Hollywoods too.
Korean industries are just one of them.
But since they are the top no.1 worldwide popular now, these facts are just open secret, and many of similar cases that being mentioned in "Oshi no Ko" are fairly new and easy to look up for research (to see more reality of "Oshi no Ko", kpop world are just the easiest to find for real world case references (if you are willing to see more triggering stories)
Why are there so many ... Bad fuck up people in the world . man if only we have some version of death note to lower those scum population down
I'd argue that korean industry more harsh and dangerous than japanese one.
In Japan among people, Idol is mostly seen as part-time not serious job and only make up 20% of the music industry. The harsh part will mostly come from toxic fan, bad management, "menhara" toxic idols type but also the other unsupervised underground Idols environment. AKB48 is probably one of the "healthiest" one as the members usually tell upon entry why they decided to join the group (some as a way to have fun before college, some for a part time job, some to make contacts...), which is why them being perfect at singing or dancing doesn't matter and also why the graduation system and the members replacement work well in Japan (but toxic fan will exist in any industry). As for the dating thing, it's only concern minors as it's follows japanese school rules ban on dating. Adults can date as long as they do it off screen and in secret and unrelated to their Idol work (not like a certain AKB member who was dating a Yakuza and was threatening other members...). And Adult idols usually don't stay more than 3 years unless they really want to be an Idol like Jurina. If they want to continue in the music industry they simply transition into becoming musical artist and not Idol.
In SKorea, Idol make up 90% of the music industry, which force anyone who want to be recognize for their singing, acting or dancing to be put under the trainee system.
But the trainee system is a trap, it's free while they are training, if they decide to leave, they have to pay the years they have been training (usually ~7000$/year). If they decide to stay, they have to wait until they are chosen which usually take 5 years. And if they have the chance to debut, they won't be paid until their training debt is clear. But management also create tensions in the group, because each member have their own debt amount, but if one member finally clear their debt, they have the choice to pay for other members - which can cause things like abuse of power and clan inside the group. The harsh part come from within the whole divertissement industry rules, the debt, the attention to the most of the little detail, but also the shame culture on itself. The simple concept of having a member being attributed the role of "Visual" already tells a lot when you see the most regular fan criticizing and ranking any Idol by their appearance without any embarrassment as if they were talking about the weather. Only recently this role have changed to the "face of the group" but before 2016, oh damn it's just meant "we choose him not for his talent but cuz he looks pretty".
@@narudayo5053 in terms of dating and sex life for example i would say Is really harder the Japanese than Korean, theres cases in Japan of idols that have strictly no dating, cases like Haruhi Suzumiya seiyuu she was on an idol group and for having a sexual life people starting sending her death threads and i think to this day she hasn't comeback to do voice acting or the group, other is on a group, Minami Minegishi was punished with cutting her hair for being with a man and recorded an apology, she was on AKB48, resently there's a change but is slower, would like to add to your first point, that in Japan the idol image not only a job not taken so seriously but depend idol can be a transition to an actress, model or artist(that are better seen with a couple), in Japan the idol image defers from K-pop, in jpop Is more about the feeling of a "friend or a girl next door that casualy is an idol" and the idea of growing personally with the idol, so in order to maintain that image a lot of agencies give little classes to the trainees, while in K-pop there more of a perfect image, in K-pop theres agencies like JYP who has a rule of three years with no dating, some say just don't get caught and others are completely no,depend more on the company.
I still remember a Kpop artist and also a youtuber commit suicide and there is people litteraly celebrate her death.
I remember a Japanese female wrestler that was being bullied to suicide few years back what was her name again
This whole anime brings so much information about the idol industry.
Along with strict rules of agencies and stalkings like in real life situations. Really scary
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Gonna repeat myself for the billionth time, Oshi no Ko is NOT the first to show the cruel reality of idols.
1st Idol Anime Movie: Perfect Blue
1st Idol Anime Series: IDOLiSH7
THANK. YOU.
not the first but has the most influence
Also the many documentaries about real idols and the industry, people are just trying to gas this anime up because they think it's good 😂 💀
Yes but it is definitely more true to the current entertainment industry. Perfect blue is a masterpiece and much ahead of its time but things have changed a lot since then. Not to mention it sheds a light at a lot more than idols, from drama adaptations to reality t.v shows to adverse effect of the entertainer's mental health due to cyber bullying and internet, it goes deep. It may not be the first but it is definitely necessary.
@@BruvvaJosh Idk if this needs to be said but most normal people probably don't bother seeing those. But I do agree the idol industry being toxic is not a super obscure info. It's nothing people who have been on this side of the internet didn't already knew even before this came out.
And real situation is much-much worse than that. Plus - stalkers stabbing idols is not as rare of happening.
Also, similar is with young k-pop singers, who are signing contracts at same age 10-12.
In western country, rappers got murdered for being too famous
If stalkers stabbing idols is not rare, please give me 3 examples.
Do not include the stalker stabbing the non-idol.
Nor the non-stalker slashing the idols.
As these obviously don't count under the "stalkers stabbing idols" category.
If this actually is a common occurrence I'd like to give appropriate examples.
to be frank when I saw Ai get killed by a fan remembered me of Rushia getting harassed by "fans" for having friend to play games with her which is a boy and quiting due to that. People don't know nothing about their lives but still think they own "idols" lifes just because they're fans and think they can do whatever they want.
Exactly what i thought
that wasn't why rushia was fired. she was fired because after her agency tried to protect her on social media, she went running to a japanese rumor-tuber and started spilling the dating lives of other hololive talents in an effort to take the heat off herself. the rumor-tuber, cautious about japan's liable laws (you can be sued for liable, even if what you say is true) talked to someone in hololive's management about what he was told to see if he could get permission to talk about it. this ended up with the whole thing being addressed in an internal meeting, at which time rushia was encouraged to take a break. she was put on hiatus, fans thought it was for the guy thing, and she doubled down on stupid and contacted two more drama-tubers to try to doxx/out the love lives of other hololive talents, even claiming she was being bullied by one of her sempai.... this all got back to management and they fired her
rushia was a very disturbed girl... that said, i get how social media can make someone panic when they're the target of the hate. and hololive is partly to blame for not defending her immediately, but waiting 3 days before releasing a luke warm statement of support. had they supported her harder the might not have felt like she needed to get the mob to attack her coworkers instead and tried to leak dirt on other girls in hololive.
still i'm reminded of towa getting into the same problem years before rushia, and it was the forign fan's support that helped her pull through the social media shit storm. as the english speaking fans of towa were very supportive while she was being destroyed by the japanese fans for being an apparent slut (because talking to a guy irl apparently means your sleeping with him, and frankly, who's business is it of anyone who she spends her nights with?).
I can't fathom apologizing for something that I was not in the wrong for I knew this industry was harsh but that is down right insane
That part got me, too. My heart aches for that poor girl. To apologize for being assaulted and victimized by your own "fans" is truly vile and horrific. Idols are people, not commodities, and the fact that there's a whole industry and system that says otherwise is disgusting.
Actually it doesn't only bring reality of Japan idol industry but it brings reality of every idol industry (including kpop too)
i feel the quality of the idol music is not the problem but the fans itself are really the problem as well as the agency are a problem as well
I agree the fans don't have a culture of shaming idol fans who are stalkers or just weird.
also personally akiba idol music is not my music taste and i feel idol fans dont even care about good music that are fun to listen these guys just simp the idol. because they never had a girlfriend in they life
What do you expect from an industry that can be summed up to "hey there's a lot of lonely sad people out there, let's squeeze their money by selling them fantasies about girls/boys who care about them"
@@excalibro8365 yea true the industry is basically clickbaiting people
@@lordtraxroyKpop is different though considering they take heavy inspiration from Western Pop, Hip Hop, and RnB
This is where we realize that Oshi no ko is more than just an anime.
It's not only idol's - didn't Levi's Japanese voice actor apologize for having a child and being a father? It's kinda ridiculous.
Anyway - I think agencies should put a stop into this girlfriend/boyfriend marketing scheme. It attracts mentally ill people who think just because they have spend money on you, you owe them something. I see the fault in the industry, because these people tend to spend tens of thousands of dollars on an idol or similar - you would need thousands of normal fans to make up for one obsessed type. So they cultivate them, until ... well, one of them thinks they developed a relationship with said idol and becomes entitled.
But hey atleast he is happy with family. Anyways, sometimes the agencies let their idols have freedom to have a family OUTSIDE of their work (Atleast their helping the low birthrates in Japan)
i am a fan of Kozue Aikawa, a dancer idol (not a singer), and she has posted a video or 2 in her personal yt channel talking about her depression in the idol industry, she was a part of danceroid, a very popular dance group back in the day, but quit. She has quit many groups before and not long after posting that depressive video in which she also cried a bunch, she had joined another, which really shouws once you start it's really hard to leave, she is 30 years old right now and has been dancing in groups for more than 13 years now, it makes me really sad and worried for her, i admire her a lot as someone from the vocaloid fandom (she usually dances to vocaloid music) but honestly.. i feel horrible, ever since i watched that video i just want her to have a normal job and record dancing as a hobby perhaps, but despite that being a happier path, it seems it's too late for her to turn back now, it really really makes me sad
It’s not just the Japanese idol industry, even the entire Kpop idol industry as well
Almost everyone is focusing on the "exposing the idol industry" concept of Oshi No Ko. While the exact theme of Oshi No Ko revolves heavily on the commentary of Entire Entertainment Industry globally. For example, the Reality Dating Arc is a commentary about the netizen's toxic overreaction and the producer's incompetence in resolving a conflict they started due to their irresponsible decisions on which scenes to put in the show. There are also the commentary about poor manga/ light novel adaptation in the Kana's episode. The Tokyo Blade Arc highlights too many issues in the industry by the lens of each actor. There is that predatory behavior of older actors or producers toward younger talents, the effect of fame toward familial bonds, relationship between co-stars, etc. Every issue presented by Oshi No Ko, reflects not only Japan's Idol industry nor only Japan's Entertainment Industry's problems but the Problem of the Entertainment Industry in General.
Focusing only on Ai, forgetting that 70% of the story is Aqua's POV and only 20% of it was Ruby's so far.
Great Video! I really like how you devided the video into chapters!
You know what I find funny that japanese idol fans/or just regular obsessive idol fans would make there "idols" cry and sad that just makes you a jerk and not a idol fan at all. The idols can love whoever they want imo cause they're human just like you and all of us and if you can't accept that then you must really think she is a robot or doll or something. Thanks Neko Reviews for showing this cause it shows ppl the stupidity of obessive fans and the sadness and pain of these idol groups and how they have a hard time after they get fire. Sigh its sad to see how things are like this.
That’s what I love so much about oshi no ko. And not just about Ai. About the whole entertainment industry. The manga is even more accurate with its portrayal with the entertainment industry, cosplay, social media, etc
I know the anime is in super early stages, but I CANNOT recommend reading the manga enough. It goes even more indepth about the entertainment industry and beyond. I can't wait to see how they continue to adapt the manga, because so far I am glad to see they stayed pretty on point.
I've never been obsessive about idols and a huge dork for gaming, so I've been wondering for a long time about idols and vtubers... Personally if I see an vtuber / idol have a significant other, I'd be very happy and would like to hear inspiring stories about it... But maybe I was naive to think that way. There's a deep rooted jealousy and suffering going on here that is way beyond my understanding. Maybe... they just wanted to hold on hope that "she's mine", owning her in their own definition.
Bear in mind that the situation on the EN side is radically different. Labor laws + culture in the more developed English speaking countries mean that very few minors are involved, especially at the corporate level. And when fans figure out that the one random indie they like is underage, they are far more likely to become actively protective. Like having a kid sister they're encouraging.
Live "idol" culture is itself not so much of a thing, and tends to be dominated by Disney (who will mess your life up legally speaking if you mess with their talents). And vtuber culture isn't seen so much as a "I can be a star" option, it's more of a "I can't find a job outside retail, and I'm a big geek" option. On top of that, a lot of them are struggling with anxiety, depression, etc. They're doing vtubing in part because they get to be more social without the same stress as venturing Outside.
So that cute girl character is far more likely to be older than her simps, and far less likely to lean so hard into the "pretend girlfriend" thing. If she isn't single, she might just not talk about it directly to fans. If she is, it's far more likely to be because she's similar to her socially inept fans, and they like her more because of that.
It all ends up very different from the JP system. And as more EN vtubers move away from "cute girls doing cute things", there's increasingly going to be situations like on a Rin Penrose stream recently. Where she basically said, would you be bothered if your favorite vtuber was over 30? And a bunch of replies saying they would actively prefer it.
The whole "idol" logic is cringe especially when its taken too far. You are at the mercy of the producers and fans alike so you cannot have your own life to live. I remember the incident with the japanese wrestler, Hana Kimura, the fans and producers took advantage of her and sadly ended her own life. Luckily idol is not as popular in western cultures.
The main problem with the underground idol industry is dissonance between contracts and reality.
It is extremely competitive and oversaturated, with groups constantly being created or restarted, or disbanding or restructuring
The overall "idol fanbase" can't grow at the pace in which new groups are formed, so there will always be "too many".
And that means groups at the edge of viability will have a bad time.
Now, if you understand that you're essentially in a "garage band" then you know you probably won't make any money from the work- or at least not money justifying the time invested. And you are okay with that or quit and move on. But these idol contracts have stipulations and penalties as if they're a major company when they're more like a garage band that can't even guarantee salary.
If you can't actually pay they shouldn't have to stay. And if they aren't fit to stay they shouldn't have to pay.
People are now always talking about Oshi no Ko because of its latest anime episodes release. It makes me feel like no knew about this through the "unpopular" movie Perfect Blue. It is really a shame that people watches anime most of the time because of looks. However, I understand that it is to introduce to a younger audience with it because Perfect Blue is indeed very dark.
If someone asks me why I dispise K-pop so much, I'll show them this anime.
I read all the manga chapters btw and there's a lot of portrayals of real life problems in the entertainment industry, this series is so meaningful.
Lmao if you think this story is "meaningful" you haven't been watching anime that long.
@@BruvvaJosh What are you trying to say I don't understand
@@abnormaldrawing1096 ignore him
you can still like kpop? 😭 and this video is directed to the japanese idol industry not the korean’s
@@nibo_am1315 but the kpop industry has the same problem fans just sucks...
Not to mention the amount of criticism, P3dos, bad pay, and as you said obsessed fans.
the age of consent in japan is 13, so they also don't have problems with p3dos
The idol industry in Japan is depressingly exploitative and messed up, which is reflective of Japanese culture. However, the "adult" industry in Japan is even worse, and the idol industry is like a mini-adult industry. That's more covered in the manga "Ashita, Watashi wa Dareka no Kanojo".
Great video it deserves much more views 👏
I could never understand the thought process of toxic and possessive idol fans, like...what the hell am I even seeing?
Great video, really informative. I'm more of a Anime & Manga fan, rather than a fan of J-Pop/K-Pop. But i've watched a documentry about the Idol music industry in South Korea. Really shocking. Yes, Western girl bands put up with a lot of BS too, but it's a whole different level in Asia. I couldn't imagine any Western music artist making a public apology after being assaulted by an obsessive fan.
japanese girl idol is like manga vs comics or anime vs cartoon. it may bare the name "Idol", but it's actually a "classification" of its own. It's a quick way to join the entertainment industry, and it a stepping stone to the national stage. In that sense, these girls are all in "training", and you don't expect the same level of professionalism or talent to other professional groups. So "graduation" also means they have finish the training. Then of course this could only applied to those remain in the industry and not just faded away.
Does it even matter how much something is exposed if nothing changes?
About Maho: the AKB election you had said ended after 2019 exactly beacuse of Mahos, beeacuse later was discoveried that was another idol of her group that gave doxxed her to a Stalker fan so Maho would get into trouble and prejudicate her in the Idol voting, instead of protect Maho and punish the bad idols, they decided to punish Maho
Thankfuly Maho is ok nowadays, working as Actress and as TV Variety Guest
Here on idol industry have harsh situations takes a lot of hard work, pure skill and luck. Also the idol's image. My older sister's friend who aims to be idol seriously, but the reality turns ups and downs. Here in Japan many crazy psychotic hardcore fanboys due to serial killings. Everything wasn't perfect, if I were you.
Supposedly, the tragic event that happened to Ai Hoshino was actually based on a true story. In 2016, Mayu Tomita was stabbed repeatedly in her neck and chest by Tomohiro Iwazaki but survived. Just like Ai, the one who attacked her was a fan. But unlike Ai, she was attacked for sending back a gift from him which was some books and a watch.
Actually, Mayu Tomita is still alive. She survived despite the stab wounds but was traumatized. What probably saved her was that none of the stab wounds reached any her vital organs. In Ai’s case, she was stabbed in the abdomen and died from internal bleeding. It may be true that Ai Hoshino’s death drew inspiration from Mayu Tomita.
Mayu Tomita is, and was at the time singer-songwriter.
Maybe some people got confused because she has the same name (different kanji though) of an idol?
Heck, if you look the name up in google right now the first thing that appears is "stabbing of Mayu Tomita" and off to the right is... a picture of the OTHER Mayu Tomita.
These are different people.
I don't know if this is done out of ignorance or maliciously, but the one who was stabbed would NOT be considered an idol in the way it's mainly used in Japan.
It could still of course be inspiration. Just more tangentially to reality than people may think.
@@cessna172ident I am sorry for the incorrect information, I did not mean to spread fake news. I myself did not know until you told me. I have edited my comment to include the correct information.
perfect blue also has information about the idol industry
I'm kind of surprised that this video did not mention about what kind of "audience" do these idols have... Usually and most of them are all grown up men...
There is nothing wrong with grown men enjoying idols. Do you want them to just watch fishing videos or something?
The election thing only happened in AKB, it is *not* a staple of idol groups as a whole. Additionally, they don't have to graduate or even contemplate it if they don't make it into the election. The point of AKB is "idols you can meet", meaning they have a theater where they perform all the time. The members who don't make it into the singles still have a place in the group as the theater needs to function somehow.
Also, yes, idols should keep up with their social media to engage with fans, but that's kinda the whole point of being an idol. If not the whole point, it's at least a big part of it, otherwise they could just try something more specific right away like acting or singing. Basically all this to say that while yes, the industry has a terrible dark side, so do any other branches of the entertainment industry. Plus, I don't understand how it takes an anime for people to see this? If you pay attention to idols at all it should be very easy to notice how tough the industry is. Doesn't mean that it can't be good also. If it was all bad we wouldn't have this many idols.
_"yes, the industry has a terrible dark side / Doesn't mean that it can't be good also."_
Unfortunately, majority of people have no actual clue about the idol scene and think they know everything juste because they've watched Oshi no Ko and Perfect Blue once.
Those videos and articles about "exposing the truth blah blah blah" are all spreading the same old biased generalisations, misconceptions and wrong assumptions. But what can we do 🤷♂
Oshi no ko maybe fictional, but it is most based on reality. I've learned so much about the dark side of this industry. Still, many people dream of becoming an idol, whether it is out of passion or fame. I don't think it's a safe place. The fans there r too toxic. When it comes to young girls perverted men become their fans, some r for their talent while most r for their pretty faces. I think that amount of hard work should be better to put in academics or sports
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I can say that oshi no ko doesn't only show idol's dark secrets but also the dark truth about the actors/actresses and the whole entertainment industry of Japan.
The issues that idols and celebrities to face like scandals and social media toxicity
Also in the Hollywood, animation, acting and video game industries, especially Disney (sadly).
When I was 5 I'd had fun watching k pop and j pop idols I didn't know a cruel reality before,but tho now I'm 10 turning 11 is starting to realise this really sad truth about k pop and j pop idol industry,I feel bad for the idols that are depressed
Warning for spoilers: Oshi No Ko might be the first ever anime that made me sob like a baby, sure Spy X Family made me cry for only 1 episode, but Oshi No Ko made me sob alot, Ai getting murdered because of a obsessive fan, Akane getting deppresion because of backlash and tried to attempt to jump, or maybe more episodes coming soon will make me sob way too much. Idols may make you happy, but what about the Idols?
The more i hear about the idol industry the creepier it gets.
Now i want an anime about the dark truth of anime animators In Japan
Like MAPPA animators feels like they haven't seen their families for a year
Edit:spelling
I think there's also some other stuff like surgery, looks, having your hair the right length and what not... and I feel like Akane is a prime example of someone who's had to alter their appearance and themselves in order to succeed, given that they used to have super long hair but had to get it cut cause it was too heavy for them? I dunno... I just like long hair and hate that she cut it... Gotta do what you gotta do... although it seems convenient that the loss of all that hair coincided with the next scenes with her looking more serious, and less bright eyed like before...
I seriously enjoyed this video! But, very small correction, AKB48’s Graduation isn’t just a nice word for termination, Graduation is 100% the Idol’s Choice. Where the idol will then be arranged a graduation concert and a photoshoot to take their photo off of the photo wall (which is you can probably guess a wall of all of the members of AKB48) Then there’s a Withdrawl which is where the idol by choice leaves quietly. While the equivalent of Termination is called Dismissal.
Damn, the quality of your videos insane, you just earned a new sub!
I remember one case from a video Coffee house made about a singer murdered by her own fans and it was gut wrenching, before the crime happen the killer wait on a line for a sign and photograph but when it was his turn he just stand there, the singer sense a akward situation so she tried to avoid the akward interaction by try gave him a hug but what she got was bullet and her own brother witness the incident too.
ngl, the twitter antis should focus more on these industry rather than attacking fictions.
Without those obsessive fans, who's left to buy all the limited edition CDs merchandises? Or go to the handshake events, photo events, concerts? Gravure photobooks, etc? Who's gonna give them that sweet sweet money? The lifeblood of the industry itself is problematic.
Don't forget that some obsessive fans stalk and harass their idols too. The industry isn't the only problem
Not only idol industry but also Hollywood and other animation companies as well.
Not just idol but entertainment industry as a whole !!! Also anyone who’s a crazy fan would probably die or kill
Someone over it we call em a term from a Eminem Music video we call theses guys and girls “ Stans “
At this point I have to wonder what kind of people actually like and support an industry like that.
People whether online or offline need to understand that these idols are HUMANS like US. STOP OBSESSING over them and STOP USING them. LET them LIVE AS HUMANS fgs. People think these stars are their private property off cost wth.
7:35 music name?
This is not just true only for J-pop idol industries, it's the same case for other East Asian pop idol industries.
Wow. Who knew that being an idol would ruin your social life.
This came to my recommendations even though i didnt search anything related to the anime....
In 2020 Japanese wrestler 22 year old Hana Kimura sadly took her life from being in Netflix Terrace House . She was dating a young star name Kai Kobayashi . In a Ep he wash her wrestling gear and shrink . She slap his hat of of his head . Than she started getting death threat and making fun of she is mix race . But she was told be to behave aggressive for for views
I used to be love live Fan from 2014 after the accidental discovery of the freemium game school idol festival. Two years into my fandom that dream ended up turning into a nightmare after being pushed around by aggressive and obsessed fans while I attended a convention then on the last day of September the freemium game suffered from a major failure of DCL failure, that is common issue with online services when Downloadable content isn’t properly tested on existing software/online game. The customer support was worse I’ve ever across after despite that lasted almost 4 years. I’ve concluded that customer service was not within a professional standard they were being deceptive and misleading and unconscious misconduct after they tried to blame me that it was condition of device when in fact it was a cause of common flaw with these online services that can happen at anytime no matter how old or new the hardware or the device. What I had gone though I felt directly violated by the franchise. I since then this one franchise caused to me to de trust two whole industry’s including interactive online gaming and J idols including k pop. What I’ve learned is that it’s all driven by money and greed and when fans became easily upset it will have impact to the company bottom line.
That's some b.s. If your an famous idol in Japan (or anywhere) and you get assaulted by a fan with mental health and you have to apologize for it.
Song at 7:30 ??
its not only in japan, in south korea and china Idols there also suffer the same problem with stalkers and a**holes from the media trying to get every bit of reason to make these idols seem like evil lying monsters, especially twitter and some news channels
there's a 90s anime movie of a similar depiction.
Perfect blue?
@@dragottaOWO I think so, man. I watched it but i haven't remembered the title. And this topic about idol abuse is as old as the 90s...
When I watched the 1st episode I immediately remembered Hirate Yurina accident when she was 15 and someone tried to stab her in a fan event. this is real events right here
Oshi No Ko is one of the based Idol animes for actually showing the darkness within
Now the question is why still be an idol despite all these s***......
so this kind of industry is dangerous in the first place, first they need audience so they make one that audience become a fan, since the idols income depends on their fan, means that the fans providing their life and then fans would think that they own their idol for themself, and thats how fanatics fans created.
7:34 megu megu fire endless night
pov; you never watch perfect blue
To be fair Oshi no ko not only tackle Idol doe. but much more.
@@rubiepie OK then if it's not isekai the old world well then
@@nhatminhhoa
Perfect Blue is too disturbing for new-gen weeb's mental
They are just trying to make oshi no ko seem better than it is, people just like riding trends and this is one of them 🙄
@@nhatminhhoa Well perfect Blue tackles Idol's, Oshi tackles actors, TV shows (the reality ones), and how you get roles etc. There's even a part where a certain someone almost sells themselves to a director in the manga.
WILDDDDDDDDDDDD THEORY, Ai's talent based on HER eyes is lying rightt?? and on the scene of her death in the anime her eyes GLOWS when she told the stalker that even now she is trying to love HIM. Which means she isn't!? EVEN AT THE BEGINNING WHEN AQUA BARGES IN I MEAN LIKE BROOOOO
oshi no ko is moe common in korea but something like perfect blue is in japan
for me oshi no ko is soft tbh but if you dont know perfect blue and cried to oshi no ko big warning pls dont watch it
3:48 sora the troll??
I Remember the AKB48 Empire Mayu Watanabe was the Love of my life and she became Queen in 2014, but sadly after 2018 the AKB fall and by 2020 it fell like Western Roman Empire and by 2023 it's dead.. I miss the idol era, yes in the West people still think idols are still a thing but it's falling.
Edit in so this was episode 6 of Oshi no Ko Twitter bully the Hana japanese pro wrestler case
"competition" that even for idols . Me as an Indian laughing in the corner cus JEE ,UPSC & NEET are laughing along with me.
There was one 48 idol who was forced to shave her haur and apologize in a video for having a boyfriend
Well been noticed this since 2013-2014 or something.... dark side of it
yeah i like this video
This is way more inspired from K-pop industry, I mean, have you ever heard about a japanese idol taking her life? No, but that continually happens with K-pop.
Japanese government should help idols, they are suffering too much without investment in the future
This is just like Kpop idols and I can’t believe the Japanese idols and the Korean pop idols are the same but with some slight differences
I will reform is necessary. There should be balance in a life in an idle. Their hours should be no more than 16 hours a day idols cannot perform without written permission from their parents
Also, they should be supervise by a guardian, while performing idols cannot alone with her managers
Strict rules can also be replaced with more liberal rules allow with work balance
That’s really messed up how treats women in industries, children need go schools
its not just the idol industry but the vtuber industry that is like this. and its disgusting.
What makes it terrifying is that it doesn’t just apply to the idol and vtuber industry, but also the entire entertainment industry itself.
I laugh and cry about these stories. I dont know what to do with them
Now we have idol Vtubers Aging is not a problem
apologizing for YOU getting ASSAULTED is crazy wtf. She should of pulled the connor mcgregor of apologizing to noone. Seriously wtf is that
7:20 as an Indian 100M yen = 66M Rs. = 6.6Cr and well..... Classical Biharis be like: Wanna d*e?
rbbattles background music
7:07 mista
why do people only talk about female idols in these vids when the male idol industry is as fuck up too (but i still love my boys)
and thats not it, yalla havent even SCRATCHED the surface of the kpop industry.
And have u also heard the English version of yoasoba it’s a little weird
Yes and the next video will be about this song! Stay tuned.
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So what it’s the life They chose it’s only for a few years then they can retire that’s why it’s better to enjoy 3d star then the real version
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This also a thing to korean idol.... Which have created an extreme parasocial
Like the fans are so Unhinged
I'm not going to lie I really wish some Japanese girl and women don't have to be an idol star because he keeps doing a lot of pressure but it felt like you're just trying to be a prisoner that's just sad being famous assist not everything you know the only thing you would have is freedom that's your choice if you don't want to be an idol or if you don't want to be any of those Idols then don't be. I know singing is a dream any reality they just kept you like a slave that's just wrong and the idol industry should be ashamed of themselves