Samyang 85mm F1.4 AF (For Canon RF) Definitive Review | 4K

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  • @ashish0831
    @ashish0831 4 года назад +49

    Much awaited
    I never buy a lens without watching DA's review .. was waiting for it

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +5

      That is really great praise. I appreciate it.

  • @HoratiusXXL
    @HoratiusXXL 4 года назад +3

    As a German, it was a nostalgic moment to see our 10 DM bill closeup. Very nice review. Stay safe and healthy.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      I hear that often. A lot of people from Euro nations seem to miss their native currency.

  • @techoasys
    @techoasys 4 года назад +10

    Dustin, thank you so so much for this review! Just purchased the Samyang 85mm F1.4 AF for my Canon EOS RP based on your review, and I absolutely LOVE this lens. By far the best lens I have owned to date. This lens is tack sharp at F1.4 and has speedy auto focus even in low light. This lens is a game changer at $700!

  • @aseemsikka6811
    @aseemsikka6811 4 года назад +2

    This was a pretty long video but didn't feel stretched. Your reviews are always very engaging and very well organized. I hope more people see you and your videos.

  • @chrisrout1654
    @chrisrout1654 4 года назад +2

    What a cracking new lens! Samyang has certainly put the cat amongst the pigeons with this beauty, what surprised me is how crisper the images are compared to your loyal and trusted Tamron 85mm of which was sharper then the EF85mm 1.4L that you compared it to, such is technology and how it moves forward. Photographers have never had it so good with lens and camera choices these days!

  • @juanmaasecas
    @juanmaasecas 4 года назад +39

    I use this lens on my A7III and I love it. Now that it is available for Canon, I just need the R5/R6 (with IBIS) and I am ready to switch back to Canon. I am tired of dealing with Sony colors.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +7

      Yes, I can't wait for for the R5, too.

    • @qtben17
      @qtben17 4 года назад

      How is the autofocus for video in a73? I feel ya, Sony colors is too much work..

    • @juanmaasecas
      @juanmaasecas 4 года назад +2

      I barely shoot any video, but after the third update (the latest is the 4th), it improved a lot... I think still not to the level of the sony 85 1.8, but usable for real life stuff.

    • @glac1787
      @glac1787 4 года назад

      The same ^^

    • @frankieshiu
      @frankieshiu 4 года назад

      I am not a Sony user, I am curious to know what's wrong with the Sony colour?

  • @lighthunter1980
    @lighthunter1980 4 года назад +3

    Best lens reviews on YT! Thanks for all the hard work you put into these.

  • @HeroShotzphoto
    @HeroShotzphoto 4 года назад +2

    Hows this vs the samyang EF version ? That one is around $200 cheaper

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад

      This one is much better optically and in autofocus performance.

  • @Photog918
    @Photog918 2 года назад

    I watched this video about 10mo ago. I purchased this lens immediately after watching it. It’s been my go to lens both in studio and out. I’ve shared the link to video countless times. I started with it on an RP. Did amazing! Now paired with the R5, I will not ever see the need to go to the canon version. I appreciate this video and what this lens has done for me!

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  2 года назад +1

      I'm glad you are enjoying it. I just did an updated video on it a few weeks ago. ruclips.net/video/eZ5tJtHt-EA/видео.html

  • @EFFTEEZEE
    @EFFTEEZEE 4 года назад +83

    A lot lighter, smaller than F1.2,1.4 competitors, accurate EYE-AF, no need of adapters, good image quality. Game Over.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +11

      I definitely think this one will sell some copies.

    • @f0t0b0y
      @f0t0b0y 4 года назад +5

      Maybe not game over. What other camera manufacturers offer a 85mm 1.2. It’s silly larger and pricy AF, but if you use the 85mm in your line of work even 40% of the time, wouldn’t that be a proper investment?
      I’m only just now switching to mirrorless. I’ve had my 5D Mark fours for four years and most of my lenses for 3 to 6 years and my 70-200mm L II 9 years! I just sold that lens for 1000. I sold the mark IVs for 1600 and 1800 with a grip. I didn’t get the R5 because I’ve taken a good hit to my business this year. Instead I bought a used R for 1350 and a used RP for 750. Getting ROI on gear is just one part of being a successful freelance photographer. So the price of this lens is perfect for me but if I shot a ton with the 85 I would by Canons 1.2 in a heartbeat. So I agree with what you’ve stated except for the game over.

    • @EFFTEEZEE
      @EFFTEEZEE 4 года назад +2

      @@f0t0b0y I also think that spending thousands of dollars on L lenses is worth it. But, I don't need em. Cheap Samyang primes are already exceeding my needs.

    • @f0t0b0y
      @f0t0b0y 4 года назад

      Gukin Whatever works for you. But I think if that’s the case, waiting for a sigma or even tamron would be a better play.

    • @hysterical_being
      @hysterical_being 4 года назад +1

      Ill personally buy the ef version so i can adapt it with the control ring mount adapter so i get a fully fledged rf lens with all bells and whistles!

  • @cremersalex
    @cremersalex 4 года назад +9

    I still have the very first Samyang 85mm 1.4, the one that has the gold ring. It covers the sensor of the GFX 50S.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      Interesting. That's pretty cool

    • @Wh33lsofFortune
      @Wh33lsofFortune 4 года назад

      I use one with the gold ring on my D700. Got it for 200 from keh. This thing reminds me of the 85 1.4g.

    • @Galabsharma
      @Galabsharma 4 года назад

      oho , really .. thats interesting ..

  • @chasingmanhattan
    @chasingmanhattan 4 года назад +1

    I ended up buying one of these two weeks ago to pair with my RP and the R5 I plan to buy early next year. I am in love with the way it renders. Such a massive step forward in image quality from my EF 85mm f/1.8, and I’m nailing focus much more consistently than I was with the copy of that lens that I owned before buying the Samyang. Very pleased.
    Thanks for the great video. Content like this helps me to more intelligently invest.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      It's a beautiful lens, though there are a few minor compatibility issues with the R5 that they are working on firmware to correct.

    • @chasingmanhattan
      @chasingmanhattan 4 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI Good to know, thanks.

  • @watchreport
    @watchreport 4 года назад

    Great channel! I have the Eos R and use a mount for the EF lenses, but for video, EF or RF, what would you say is the best lens for product video main footage? For B-roll I use a sigma macro, but I’m looking for a sharper and clearer lens for the main footage. I appreciate your help and suggestions. 👍

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад

      I've actually used this lens for a lot of my videos. Great footage on the EOS R, and the face tracking is very smooth.

  • @HeroShotzphoto
    @HeroShotzphoto 4 года назад +4

    Just preordered this one and cant wait for a 50 & 35mm 1.4 at some point.

  • @Galabsharma
    @Galabsharma 4 года назад +3

    I was waiting for this lens and I was waiting for it to be reviewed either by you or christopher frost .. Thanks a lot Mr. Dustin Abott .. If you be here in Myanmar any time soon this year, would be glad to treat you for this video .. Thanks again ..

  • @skesinis
    @skesinis 4 года назад

    Great and thorough review of the lens Dustin as always! I couldn’t help not noticing the 100 Greek drachmas note on the right bottom corner of your test shots which brought me some nostalgia. :) I appreciate the time and effort that you’re committing to all your reviews and I’m always watching them before making a decision to buy one for myself!

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      From the response I get from people from the various Euro countries, I think a lot of people miss their own native currency.

  • @bungalogic
    @bungalogic 3 года назад +1

    Im very grateful for you insights. I’m deciding between this and the tamron … both great lenses. I’m thinking 🤔 but thanks so much.

  •  4 года назад +2

    Impressive performance and a welcome addition to the RF lens lineup.

  • @Michaelpai1230
    @Michaelpai1230 4 года назад

    Just saw the news release a couple days ago and you've already got a video ready to present. Thank you!

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      I was very fortunate to be an early tester for the lens.

  • @antoniodiaz1887
    @antoniodiaz1887 4 года назад +1

    In your opinion, which would you choose, this lens or the new Canon 85 F2 macro lens? for the EOS R?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      I haven't had a chance to review the new macro lens yet, so I can't give you an informed response yet.

  • @bujinkan71
    @bujinkan71 Год назад

    hi there greetings from greece ,,,,,trying to find this lens but it seems i cant find it anywhere ...it isnt even listed in the samyang site.Did they stop the production? or what else?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  Год назад

      Canon has really cracked down on any third party autofocusing lenses for RF...so Samyang has, for now, stopped production.

  • @louiskl
    @louiskl 4 года назад

    your another review of rf85 1.2, you had already done one comparison with Sony version of this len. for the image quality comparison starts from 22:40, it seems more different than here shows, especially for the contrast, can you explain more? is it because of the Sony body or more pixels or something else? thanks

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад

      Comparing similar pixel density definitely makes a difference, and there's also a chance that this lens is a bit sharper than the other.

    • @louiskl
      @louiskl 4 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI ok, so the real test for this Len would be on R5 body. interested in both, would like to see your review this len on R5 in the near future

  • @V-Lipz
    @V-Lipz Год назад

    Hi Dustin! Do you know if this RF lens is still supported by Canon and if the autofocus works properly? Thank you!

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  Год назад

      It's never been supported by Canon, really, but it does continue to work with the recent cameras I've reviewed and works fine on my EOS R5 that I own.

  • @brandonedling
    @brandonedling 3 года назад +1

    Really appreciate this review, as well as your others. I was getting ready to sell one of my kids to pay for a new Canon RF 85mm. Now with this option, I get to keep him around AND I get a great new lens to boot. It’s a win/win. 😉

  • @kane01337
    @kane01337 4 года назад

    Great review & a fantastic value option! Awesome quality as usual Dustin - appreciate the in-depth look as always!

  • @kellybean6904
    @kellybean6904 10 месяцев назад

    Did they stop making this lens or something? I can only find this in either an EF mount or manual focus in an RF mount
    I want the auto focus with and rf mount

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  10 месяцев назад

      Unfortunately Canon has shut down everyone who has made an autofocusing RF mount lens.

  • @RWAquariumPages
    @RWAquariumPages 2 года назад

    hey Dustin! just finished watching the great video and re-reading the blog article about the lens. Would you consider the Samyang RF85mm over the EF 85 1.8 with an adapter for general street shooting and portrait work?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  2 года назад

      I personally would, absolutely.

    • @RWAquariumPages
      @RWAquariumPages 2 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI thanks for the reply. Any comments or suggestions on yhe colour shift for the samyang lens compared to the Canon lens

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  2 года назад +1

      Colors are slightly warmer, yes, but typically not in an unpleasant way.

    • @RWAquariumPages
      @RWAquariumPages 2 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI awesome, watching your viltrox review now, how does the colour compare to that lens

  • @JonnyRoams
    @JonnyRoams 4 года назад +1

    Got this on pre order soon as It was announced. Shot with samyang AF lenses on Sony and only have high expectations for this one!

  • @AndreasRavnestad
    @AndreasRavnestad 4 года назад +1

    Hi Dustin, I have a copy of the Samyang 85mm F/1.4 FE for Sony, and by eyeing up the lens hood on your copy at 5:21, I think I can assert that my copy has a lens hood with the same length as the Canon version. I bought my copy in march this year.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад

      That's interesting. My copy was from early on, so that was obviously a change they made along the way.

  • @danpend
    @danpend 3 года назад

    Good advice, sir. Could I recommend a wireless mike for your videos? A lot of echo just using the camera mike.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 года назад

      I've never just used the camera mic, but I'd have to rewatch this video know what mic I used.

  • @jn3750
    @jn3750 Год назад

    Any compatibility issues with any of the R bodies, Dustin? Samyang no longer makes this lens for some reason

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  Год назад

      I haven't tested it on ALL the R bodies, but thus far it has worked on all the ones I've tested. They no longer make it because Canon threatened them. They have completely resisted all autofocus third party development on Canon.

  • @sottheaphoeurng9044
    @sottheaphoeurng9044 Год назад

    Hi sir. How is the low light performance? Is the lens hunting a lot?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  Год назад

      I haven't found that to be the case at all. A larger aperture like F1.4 typically allows for better low light performance.

  • @mynameisdeleted
    @mynameisdeleted 4 года назад

    The 85mm f1.2L mark 2 rf can be had in good condition used under a grand and works perfectly with rf to rf adaptor and weighs less than the new 85mm f1.2L rf......as the older canon rf 85mm is now much closer in price to the Rokinon do you the if price between the old ef 85mm+rf adapter could be had for same cost as the rokinon....which way would you go?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад

      That's a tough call. The older Canon isn’t sharper and will have slower autofocus, but it is a beloved lens above all because of its rendering. It also sounds like a pretty strong value that you can resale down the road without taking any hit. I really like the rokinon, though, and it focuses great and produces beautiful images.

    • @mynameisdeleted
      @mynameisdeleted 4 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI My use would be slow moving subjects who are mostely people, couples, and christmas lights.. I'd get a seperate macro capable 85mm or 100mm for food shots and way-closeup, which would have image stabailization.
      My main goals are bokeh, sparkle, color and contrast and when flares do occ6how pretty they look rather than speed or resolution
      Dollars lost per year will be important if I upgrade later but points can be added for compactness and convenience

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      It sounds like either lens would work for your purposes. The Samyang will have higher contrast and sharpness at wide apertures.

    • @francoisequentin1647
      @francoisequentin1647 4 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI Hi Dustin, thanks for all your works: you're just the best. Now i'm here, one question : which one (samyang rf 1.4 or ef 1.2 II) has a better "3d effect", I am looking for a lens that offers a clear separation of the character and the background . Thanks a lot:)

  • @RichSera2-qm5rl
    @RichSera2-qm5rl 2 месяца назад

    Hi, is this lens for fullframe or crop sensor?

  • @legend240891
    @legend240891 4 года назад

    awesome video Dustin.
    any news about the 35mm and 50mm? Since I use those two much more.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      I don't know. I would love to see an improved 50mm, for sure.

  • @Mrpuzzlepeace
    @Mrpuzzlepeace 4 года назад

    Would you get this or the new canon f2 with IS. I have the eos R

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      I haven't had a chance to review the new Canon 85mm F2 yet. I'm hoping to soon.

  • @michaellekas27
    @michaellekas27 4 года назад

    Excellent review Dustin. How does this lens compare with the canon rf 85mm f2?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      I've gotten that question a lot, but I can't really answer it until I have a chance to review the RF 85 F2

  • @ssmith278
    @ssmith278 4 года назад

    How is the EF version of this lens? Should I assume it is about the same as this RF version?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад

      It's not, unfortunately. This lens is definitely superior in both optical performance (different optical formula) and autofocus performance (different AF system).

  • @apostolip
    @apostolip 3 года назад

    Hey! I just came across this video because I'm looking to get this lens, thank you so much for taking the time to make this review, its one of the best I've seen for this or any lens to be honest! I have a quick question though, if it's not too much trouble would you mind sharing the lens correction profile that you made for this lens? I'm not that skilled in lens correction and Samyang has not officially released one either. If not, I completely understand! I just thought I'd ask thank you either way!

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 года назад

      If you are using Lightroom or ACR, just plug in a -2 for distortion and +100 for vignette, then move the midpoint to 0.

  • @TheGodX
    @TheGodX 4 года назад

    Is the EF version of this autofocusing 85 lens same as the RF version?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад

      Unfortunately no. The EF version is a different optical formula and isn't as good.

  • @ilmatanela1816
    @ilmatanela1816 4 года назад +1

    Hi Dustin, once again thank you for the great work you bring to us. I am interested in this lens, F mount version. I know it's a different design therefore I wonder if its performance can be poorer that the RF mount version. More than in the ultimate sharpness, I am interested bokeh/transitions quality, which seems great in this lens. What's your opinion? Currently I use an 85 1.8G for portraiture, it's a good honest lens, but I am tempted from the creative possibilities, the dreamy look characteristic of 1.4 lenses.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      Unfortunately the Canon EF and Nikon F versions of the lens are not the same optically as this lens...and aren't as good.

    • @ilmatanela1816
      @ilmatanela1816 4 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI thank you very much

  • @ashish0831
    @ashish0831 3 года назад

    I really miss the Control ring on Samyang 85 1.4AF( RF ) , Do u think RF to EF adaptor will support Samyang 85 1.4 EF , so I can use the control ring on adaptor

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 года назад +1

      I wouldn’t recommend that approach. The EF lens is not the same optically (worse) and doesn’t have as good of autofocus.

    • @ashish0831
      @ashish0831 3 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI thanks for your valuable advice

  • @fl1654
    @fl1654 4 года назад

    Hi Dustin, does this lens have lens correction data like the Samyang RF 14mm? Thanks

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад

      It doesn't, which I find strange considering the 14mm did!

    • @JohnArmwood
      @JohnArmwood 3 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI It has that data now. I bought the lens for my EOS R based on your review and I am very happy. I chose it over the Tamron, even without IS.

  • @RonSteinPhotography
    @RonSteinPhotography 3 года назад

    Which test chart did you use for the comparison? Also we’re your real life photos sharpened in post? If not, what were the camera raw image settings? It seems like I am never able to achieve comparable levels of sharpness with my copy of this lens or any other lenses I own including the L series lenses. Thanks Mr. Abbot eh?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 года назад +1

      The test chart is one that I created myself and use for all my reviews. I have a standard sharpening setting that I use that I develop for each camera, so I have added no additional sharpening to the Samyang results. I’m on the road right now, and so I don’t know exactly what those settings are

    • @RonSteinPhotography
      @RonSteinPhotography 3 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI thanks - I’d appreciate it if you could revisit this once you get back and get a moment

  • @greggv12345
    @greggv12345 4 года назад

    Hi Dustin
    Thanks a lot for the review
    Just a question, compared to the tamron 85 1.8, what’s your favorite ?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад

      At this stage I'm more partial to the Samyang.

    • @greggv12345
      @greggv12345 4 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI Hi Dustin, thanks a lot for your feedback, on which aspect, the Samyang making the difference on the tamron ?
      Have a nice day

  • @Allen-Trav
    @Allen-Trav 4 года назад

    I have the Tamron SP 85 f/1.8 and am still on the fence about the Samyang being worth the upgrade. The RF mount and f/1.4 aperture would be great. The review indicates better or equal focus performance and better sharpness. Any opinions? I am sitting on the fence.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +2

      I sold the Tamron and kept the Samyang, myself.

  • @cagf2013
    @cagf2013 4 года назад +5

    As always, a great review Dustin. Happy to hear the autofocus works so well on the samyang. Canon will have a hard time justifying the price of the RF 85mm f1.2 going forward.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +4

      I think there will continue to be a market for the high end lens (there always is), and it does have some advantages. It's great, however, that people with a tighter budget now have a good option.

    • @maisiaola
      @maisiaola 4 года назад +1

      Indeed! We need competitors as always

    • @robertcudlipp3426
      @robertcudlipp3426 4 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI Some reviewers have found that the Canon 50 1.2 has to be opened to 2.8 or more for optimal results. Seems little point in spending a great deal of money on a 1.2 lens which doesn't shine wide open.

    • @DanielFazzari
      @DanielFazzari 4 года назад +2

      @@robertcudlipp3426 um, no. The 50 1.2 is fantastic wide open! Watch Dustin's review of it.

    • @sexysilversurfer
      @sexysilversurfer 4 года назад

      There’s always someone willing to pay for the extra for the best. Canon would rather produce less and charge more, it keeps the brand in the premium sector.

  • @JemimahMai
    @JemimahMai 4 года назад

    Dustin, have you played with this lens in low light conditions? I have read about some people struggling with focus hunting compared to the Canon RF 85 f1.2 version. I would really like to purchase this lens but focus hunting would really discourage me

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      I haven't noticed poor AF in poor light with it, myself, though I rarely use the same lens all the time (I'm always testing something new even though I own a lot of great lenses like this one.)

    • @JemimahMai
      @JemimahMai 4 года назад

      Dustin Abbott that’s great news. I’m really hoping this is a good alternative to the Canon version

  • @robertogiordano7743
    @robertogiordano7743 4 года назад

    I'm wondering which is the best choose between this Samyang and the Tamron Sp EF 85mm f 1.8 for portrait purposes. (I have a canon Rp) can u help me?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      If you're on an RF mount camera, I would go with the Samyang.

  • @acemwon
    @acemwon 4 года назад

    I’ve read the flaring can be bad especially shooting into direct sunlight. I love taking sunset and golden hour photos so I’m not sure to buy this one or wait for canons new 85mm f/2 coming in October

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      It's no more flare prone than basically every other 85mm I've used.

  • @gazdyer2732
    @gazdyer2732 4 года назад +1

    Excellent Dustin as always , thank you.

  • @BenLisAgodOFcheese
    @BenLisAgodOFcheese 3 года назад

    Hey Dustin! I was considering the tamron f1.8 vc with the control ring adapter, but really like the overall lighter package here with great isolation. My issue is that ive seen people mention heavy vignetting and poor light transmission. If you were in my boots (with eos R), which would you get?
    Only lens I have is the ef 70-200 f2.8 IS usm. Been considering tamron 45mm f1.8 vc and 35-135mm f2.8-4 as well as a tap in base, but I keep getting told to buy native glass which has me just thinking of dropping everything for the 28-70 f2. I would look at the other non-L lenses of RF but they just compromise alot in focus speed and quality, while the L lenses cost small fortunes for me.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 года назад +1

      I would go for this Samyang. Don't let others put you off; it's a great lens.

    • @BenLisAgodOFcheese
      @BenLisAgodOFcheese 3 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI Thank you!

  • @paulengle5784
    @paulengle5784 4 года назад

    Is there any reason to believe that the EF version of this lens would *not* adapt well to the R lens mount? From everything I've seen in reviews, the EF lenses by Canon have adapted very well to the RF lens mount.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      Unfortunately the EF version is not the same optically. It is inferior both in optics and autofocus.

  • @os2baba
    @os2baba 4 года назад

    Dustin will you be doing a review of the Canon 85 f/2? Am trying to decide between the two. I'd trade the 1 stop for the control ring if it's anything like my 135/2L

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      As soon as I can. I'm waiting on new stock to arrive in Canada.

  • @stevemurnan1702
    @stevemurnan1702 4 года назад

    Do I go for the Samyang or the Canon 85mm F2 macro?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +2

      I've gotten this question a LOT, but until I have a chance to review the Canon, it is hard for me to answer.

    • @stevemurnan1702
      @stevemurnan1702 4 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI Appreciate that and the really good job you've done with this review. It wil be an interesting comparison when you get your hands on one. I'm leaning toward the Canon as I have the 35mm f1.8 macro and it really is a good lens for the money but the aperture advantage of the Samyang is holding meback a bit.

  • @6rimR3ap3r
    @6rimR3ap3r 3 года назад

    Could you judge a bokeh and image quality comparison between this lens and a Canon 135mm f/2 L? A used Canon is about the same price and I'm torn between these two focal lenghts.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 года назад +1

      Hi Dominik, I'm afraid I don't have access to the Canon 135L anymore.

  • @MasterOfNothing83
    @MasterOfNothing83 4 года назад

    Sorry, this is probably a very stupid question but if I have the rf24-105 f4 lens already and this lens is a 85 f4 then can't I get the same results with my 24-105 if I set it to 85mm? Or is there a benefit to having this prime lens? Cheers!

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +2

      This is an F1.4 lens, not an F4 lens. This lens lets in 4x as much light and can create a MUCH shallower depth of field.

    • @MasterOfNothing83
      @MasterOfNothing83 4 года назад +1

      @@DustinAbbottTWI ah! Thank you! It's been a long day. I need to learn to read apparently!

  • @byung-yeonlee9520
    @byung-yeonlee9520 4 года назад

    Thank you for the great review. I am using RP and debating between Canon EF 85mm 1.4 vs. Samyang 85mm 1.4
    EF has IS vs. Samyang do not. Also, which has better image quality?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +3

      I think the Samyang is the better value, and I prefer the rendering because of lower CA. The fact that it comes in a native RF mount further pushes me that direction.

  • @MathuCampbell
    @MathuCampbell 3 года назад

    Would you recommend this over the 85mm F2 ?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 года назад

      Only if you don't need the macro capabilities. As just an 85mm prime, yes, I prefer this lens.

  • @MrGflan
    @MrGflan 3 года назад

    Hi Dustin. I use a canon R6 and shoot fast moving dog sports indoors and outdoors, but not for my main living. I have other lenses, but I loved the EF canon 85mm 1.2 II lens, but as you know the hit rate of AF was slow and poor. Is this a good alternative in terms of focus speed for my new canon R6? Is the expensive new 1.2 lens a lot faster in terms of AF speed with the new eye detection? Can you help? Can the Rokinon and Samyang do the job with nice quality blur and sharpness? Thanks!!

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 года назад +1

      I've had good results with this lens overall, actually, though you need to be sure to have the most recent firmware for it, which might require buying the RF Lens Station if the newest firmware isn't installed.

    • @MrGflan
      @MrGflan 3 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI thanks, Dustin. Is the rokinon different from the samyang? Are they essentially the same? Also, in your experience is the EF canon 85mm f 1.4 lens any faster AF than the samyang? Would there be any benefit to the older canon adapted mounted to the R6? Thanks!

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 года назад +1

      Rokinon and Samyang are identical - just different branding. Why? I don't know. The RF version is a much better lens in every way than the EF version - optically, AF, and build.

  • @fotoboiiso9793
    @fotoboiiso9793 4 года назад

    what can you say about the samyang 85 af for dslr canon?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад

      That lens has a different optical formula and I haven't tested it.

    • @robertcudlipp3426
      @robertcudlipp3426 4 года назад

      Dustin, does that mean it's not compatible with my 6D?

  • @wkpad1
    @wkpad1 4 года назад

    I would be interested in this or the upcoming RF 85/2 IS Macro

  • @manisharora6233
    @manisharora6233 3 года назад

    Hi Dustin ,a complete elaborate review as usual. I wanted to as how is samyang 85 1.4 ef mount ? I wanted to buy for 6d mark ii. does it perform same way as rf mount?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 года назад

      I'm afraid that lens is not the same on basically any level. Autofocus, design, or optics. It is an okay lens, but not exceptional like this one.

    • @manisharora6233
      @manisharora6233 3 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI ok thanks a ton
      and i think in this regard tamron 1.8 vc is better right? Have seen that video too

  • @elliott9052
    @elliott9052 4 года назад

    How many stops IS will this be getting on the R5/R6? Any word on that yet?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      I haven't heard that, but I will test as soon as my R5 arrives.

    • @elliott9052
      @elliott9052 4 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI Cheers Dustin. Got my R6 on pre order . Looking for a fast native 85 and the alternatives are a tad on the pricey side😉

    • @tommonti6644
      @tommonti6644 4 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI Many thanks for the great review! Have you been able to try the R5 in combination with the Samyang 85mm AF (RF) lens? I have seen that IBIS does not work with the Samyang 14mm f2.8 (EF) lens yet, so I am curious to know if RF lens perform better in this regard.

  • @adyansuseno5808
    @adyansuseno5808 3 года назад

    After watching your review on Tamron 45mm and I just bought it last night, and Im looking for 85mm lens, recently. I cant decide between Tamron 85mm or Samyang 85mm, Im looking for good rendering which is not "flat" like what the sigma 85mm has. Which one to choose?
    Thanks Dustin for your dedication on making videos, it is really helpful 🙏

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 года назад

      If you have an RF mount camera, go for this lens. It's fantastic.

  • @eduardla007
    @eduardla007 4 года назад

    can I please have access to some of the raw portraits in this video Im seriously considering buying this lens

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад

      I'm afraid not. I don't share those kinds of files.

  • @juan3m53
    @juan3m53 4 года назад

    Can you update this vid with the new firmware?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад

      I don't have room in my schedule to do a fresh video, but I do plan to talk about it in a Livestream soon.

  • @szymonkondratowicz8824
    @szymonkondratowicz8824 3 года назад

    Why Samyang stopped selling RF autofocus lenses? At they official page they are not listed? Any patent issues?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 года назад +1

      That's the first I've heard of it. I'll have to ask my Samyang contact

    • @szymonkondratowicz8824
      @szymonkondratowicz8824 3 года назад +1

      @@DustinAbbottTWI looking forward for any answers. I am using 85rf and hoping samyang 50rf will be created. In this situation it is discussable

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 года назад

      I've sent a message to my contact.

    • @szymonkondratowicz8824
      @szymonkondratowicz8824 3 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI www.canonrumors.com/samyang-appears-to-have-ceased-production-of-rf-mount-lenses/ details there, rumours i know but seems true :(

    • @saschan708
      @saschan708 3 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI Did you get any update on that topic? I asked Samyang two days ago if they will provide Firmware Updates for RF in the future and their only answer was: “Due to technical problems, we are unable to provide information on RF mounts.” Asked Rokinon the same question and their answer was: “The firmware updates are released by Samyang. Please check with them.” They confirm to still sell RF Lenses and Lens Stations, but don’t seem to care if there will be updates. Might be just a temporary problem, but currently I am not sure what to think about their customer service.

  • @jken7530
    @jken7530 4 года назад

    Is that have Len correction in body?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад

      Not right now. I'm hoping that might come via firmware.

    • @Wh33lsofFortune
      @Wh33lsofFortune 4 года назад

      They tell you to turn them off on their website for best results

  • @ayayoutuber
    @ayayoutuber 4 года назад

    Is there a comparison of this lens with EF Canon lens? I mean more people are re-cycling EF lens...any advantage of using this vs EF Canon 85?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад

      Hi Andrew - there are three current EF 85mm lenses, so you'll have to be more specific.

  • @kjmfoto-jorgenmartinsson8456
    @kjmfoto-jorgenmartinsson8456 4 года назад

    Thank you for great, detailed review. Was wondering if this would be replace my Sigma 85 f. 1,4 Art for the EOS R. because of the weight saving, but I feel the difference overall is to small to justify a switch. Would be nice to get rid of that EF mount adapter though.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +2

      If the size is a factor, the Samyang is definitely tempting. It's not quite as sharp, but I think it has nicer bokeh.

  • @michalpieknik5268
    @michalpieknik5268 4 года назад

    Hey, I'm wonderng about that Samyang. I've bought Eos RP and I do portraits shots. I don't know which 85 mm Will be better: Sigma 85 1.4 DG vs Canon Rf 85 F2 or Samyang RF 1.4 . Which one would you choose to portraits?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +2

      I like the Samyang best for its combo of size and performance.

    • @michalpieknik5268
      @michalpieknik5268 4 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI I've already bought samyang, I Hope won't to regret😊

  • @WirtzFotodesign
    @WirtzFotodesign 4 года назад

    Great video Mr. Abbott! I'm considering buying a new 85mm lens and can't decide between the Samyang and the Tamron. I have EOS R without IBIS and I think the Tamron is a better choice. What do you think?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      I would personally go with this lens. It's fantastic.

    • @WirtzFotodesign
      @WirtzFotodesign 4 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks for your advice! I've got the old version for the EF Mount and I was very disappointed in therm of solution and sharpness.

  • @TonyGardnerRC
    @TonyGardnerRC 3 года назад +1

    Hi Dustin, thanks for another great review. I'm just starting to move to an RF system most likely with an R6. Here in the UK Samyang have just started an Easter sale with the 85mm RF reduced down to £479 which is an absolute bargain! I put an order in for one this morning on the strength of the review, I just need Canon to drop a saving on the R6 now...! Well, here's hoping anyway... Thanks again.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 года назад

      Wow - that's a great price for a great lens.

    • @TonyGardnerRC
      @TonyGardnerRC 3 года назад +1

      @@DustinAbbottTWI In the UK the Canon 85mm F1.2 RF is just under £2700 so its a no brainer. I already have the 85 1.2L II which is one of my favourite lenses so it'll be interesting to compare. I suspect the Samyang will be a lot sharper and have less ca etc than the older Canon EF lens.

  • @pedroprietolopez330
    @pedroprietolopez330 4 года назад +1

    I'm waiting for Canon 85mm Rf macro comparision!!!
    Great job!!!

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +2

      I'll probably bring the 85mm F2 in at the end of the month.

  • @kasunsiriwardana5167
    @kasunsiriwardana5167 4 года назад

    How could I buy one for my Mark iii canon

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад

      I'm afraid it's only designed for mirrorless.

  • @sholaallen4873
    @sholaallen4873 4 года назад

    Don't remember if you had covered this in the review, but how close is the samyang lens image quality compared to an adapted canon 85 1.4 L DSLR lens?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      It's been a few years since I reviewed that lens, and on different systems, but I would say the Samyang definitely has less CA. I personally like it better.

    • @sholaallen4873
      @sholaallen4873 4 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI thanks, I'm planning to upgrade to the RF mount and was concerned about the availability of high quality lenses that won't break the bank... This is a welcome development.

  • @waynesaladine9937
    @waynesaladine9937 4 года назад

    I always get excited when I see you are reviewing something I am looking at purchasing because your reviews are the best on RUclips. The only thing I am still unsure of with the lens is how well it handles backlight golden hour portraits vs the Canon RF 85 f1.2. Seeing the green and purple colour casts when shooting into the sun has got me wondering if it will show up in backlight shots

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад

      The RF lens also does some veiling and ghosting when shooting in to the sun, so I wouldn't call the Samyang much worse.

  • @anoopchaudhary3961
    @anoopchaudhary3961 4 года назад +1

    I saw your daughter's potrait on samyang website and figured that you will be the very first person to review this lens. Thanks for your extraordinary work and efforts. I clicked the b&h link but its pre-order, any idea when they will have in stock and start shipping? Thanks

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      I don't actually know when the lens will start shipping. Samyang is usually pretty fast with this, but the lens was just announced on Friday. It may be July before shipping starts.

    • @anoopchaudhary3961
      @anoopchaudhary3961 4 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI ok thanks

    • @anoopchaudhary3961
      @anoopchaudhary3961 4 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI i request you to answer my last question? Inwas confused between this lens and canon 85mm 1.4 is usm lens. Due to think because of the flange distance this lens would give me better quality and performance ratgwr than adapter canom 85mm 1.4 is usm l lens? Money is not a concern here i just want a better glass. Kindly help with my last query ,thanks

  • @beerborn
    @beerborn 2 года назад

    I got both the EF version of the Samyang 14mm and the 85mm for my recently purchased Canon R5. Awesome lenses and a great price steal over the Canon & Sigma versions.

  • @aldrindetablan4358
    @aldrindetablan4358 4 года назад

    Wow! Stunning lens and review. Thanks and keep safe to you and you family Sir!

  • @FredSchmitthammer
    @FredSchmitthammer 4 года назад +1

    I appreciate your reviews. My enjoyment of my R5 is better because of your channel.

  • @cdave2006
    @cdave2006 4 года назад +1

    I like very much your samples at the end. Very good looking. I think It makes me want to get a R6 / RP / R

  • @juniorrojas3951
    @juniorrojas3951 Год назад

    Anyone with any doubt the lens is compatible with all RF mount systems I have tried this on my EOS R, R6, R6 MKII, and R5 I have had no issues the lens is great worth the money I was lucky to buy it off someone for 500 bucks and it was well worth it. Good videos Dustin!

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  Год назад

      I've had good success with it as I review the newer cameras.

  • @prestonmoore9070
    @prestonmoore9070 4 года назад

    How does it compare with the Sigma 85 mm1.4?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад

      Which one? If you are referring to the ART (the big one), the Sigma is very slightly sharper at certain points in the frame, but is huge...and I like the bokeh better from this lens.

  • @Francisfphoto_
    @Francisfphoto_ 4 года назад

    Would you consider this one or Sigma 85mm f1.4 ART?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      I personally like this lens better than the Sigma. It's so much smaller and gives up little performance.

    • @Francisfphoto_
      @Francisfphoto_ 4 года назад

      Dustin Abbott wow! Yes, from your review, it seems actually sharper than the Sigma (cause it’s sooo close to the best 85, the RF)

    • @Francisfphoto_
      @Francisfphoto_ 4 года назад

      Dustin Abbott do you know if Samyang is planning on releasing some more RF lens? Like 35mm f1.4?

  • @CO8848_2
    @CO8848_2 4 года назад +2

    Thanks a lot. As I ordered R5, great to know there is awesome 3rd party alternative to the expensive $2700 85 f1.2

  • @McCurryChickenWing
    @McCurryChickenWing 4 года назад

    thanks for the great review. Could you maybe share (via comment or another video) more of your experience how the autofocus especially eye-af performs in more realistic conditions like in on a photo shoot with multiple people? (Weddong/photo shoot)

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      Well, not exactly a lot of weddings and group portrait sessions going on. I did shoot a small group of friends (about six people) with it, and Eye AF worked fine.

  • @celo2043
    @celo2043 4 года назад

    very helpful review, fantastic job!

  • @robcayabyab8910
    @robcayabyab8910 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for this in depth review!! Wedding photographer from Philippines!! ❤️

  • @markdbey
    @markdbey 4 года назад +4

    Of course this lens that I own and LOVE on my Sony is now available on the RF system....AFTER I already purchased the RF 85mm 1.2! 😅 I’m not complaining however...😎

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      If you already own the 85L, you're doing okay!

    • @markdbey
      @markdbey 4 года назад

      Dustin Abbott Well I certainly hope so... I mean... This is the 6th 85mm I’ve purchased from your reviews... Going back to the original Sigma 85 EX... 😅 You’re just THAT good...

  • @darrelllovitt8753
    @darrelllovitt8753 3 года назад

    Dustin, do you believe Samyang will come out with 105mm 1.4 or 135mm 1.4? I'd love to see a Samyang come out with something similiar to the Sigma Art

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  3 года назад

      I'm not sure that 135mm F1.4 has ever been done, so 135mm F1.8 or F2 is more likely. They have a very good optical formula already for a 135mm F2 lens, so I could see that happening. 105mm F1.4 is more unlikely, though I would love a lens like that. It's an amazing portrait focal length and aperture combo.

    • @darrelllovitt8753
      @darrelllovitt8753 3 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI thanks Dustin, guess I'm dreaming of the perfect aperture, truly wish the canon f/2 didn't have quirks and slow autofocusing

  •  4 года назад

    thank you for this video

  • @Soul_Visuals_Photography
    @Soul_Visuals_Photography 4 года назад

    Looks like this lens is a serious contender. Can't beat that for the money.

  • @bernardinotejada8978
    @bernardinotejada8978 4 года назад +1

    Does it have IS? BTW, Thank you for your amazing review.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      It does not. Very, very few 85mm lenses have built-in IS.

    • @Elazarko
      @Elazarko 4 года назад +1

      upcoming canon 85mm f2 does btw

  • @Bballboy1496
    @Bballboy1496 4 года назад

    Thank you! Great review!! Glad to be a new subscriber to your channel and awaiting new content!

  • @patricioderito3722
    @patricioderito3722 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for another great review. Would love if you started sharing the raw files of the pictures you take in these reviews if It’s not too much of a hassle. The reason is so we can get a better Idea of the image quality. Every lens has its own character, for instance, subject separation, itˋs subjective to everyone but that’s why I’d like to have have the raw files to decide. Most portrait lenses have subject separation but some are better than others, but people don’t really go into that detail when reviewing, and subject separation is such a key ingredient to a beautiful image. I think that when you’re talking about the bokeh, that’s when you should include subject separation. Just saying it has a nice bokeh and showing round or oval balls in the background doesn’t really say much in my opinion, it’s hard to tell, because almost every lens’ bokeh looks pretty much the same, with subject separation it’s where it stands out.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +3

      Hi Patricio - thanks for the feedback. I occasionally share RAW files with my Patrons, but not with the general public. I provide a lot of free information publicly, and I need some special incentives for those that directly support my work.

  • @jn3750
    @jn3750 4 года назад

    Can my EF 85mm 1.8 USM compete with the Samyang reviewed?

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      I'm afraid not...pretty much in any metric.

    • @jn3750
      @jn3750 4 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI Even in autofocus accuracy? Thanks, Dustin. Your review s are the best on RUclips.

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      I don't think it can, actually. You are talking about a lens released in 1992...

    • @jn3750
      @jn3750 4 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI I m getting the Samyang then. Thanks.

  • @michaelbonds2442
    @michaelbonds2442 4 года назад

    Hi Dustin, Absolutely love your videos! They have been very informative and definitely helped me make decisions in the past. So I've been considering this lens(the Rokinon version) for some time, but have not bit the bullet. I have the EF 135 F2, but would like to pair that with an 85mm for when a more intimate session is required. I also have the Tamron 35 f1.4, and feel an 85 would be the perfect middle ground between the 135 and 35. Like you said, the RF 85 1.2 is just simply going to be out of the price range for many photographers. Now that Canon has finally released their RF 85 F2, I'd love your opinion between these two lenses. The Canon 85 f2 would be a bit cheaper here in Canada, but is it better than the Samyang/Rokinon? I believe the Rokinon is roughly $100 more. Not sure if you have had a chance to use the Canon RF 85 f2, but either way, I'd love your here your thoughts!

    • @DustinAbbottTWI
      @DustinAbbottTWI  4 года назад +1

      I will be testing the Canon 85mm F2 in a few weeks, so I'll definitely do a few comparisons then.

    • @TheDapperHouse
      @TheDapperHouse 3 года назад

      @@DustinAbbottTWI between the two lenses, those being the canon f2 and the samyang f1.4 which would you recommend for portrait/fashion photographers?

  • @zispop
    @zispop 4 года назад

    Quality content as always. Thanks!