I've do e this on two different sets of wheels and it works great. Spin on cars axle before final bead to make sure it's true. And make sure there is a drop center in the wheel close to one of the beads so your tire mounts easy
После прихватывания сваркой (перед обваркой швов), желательно проверить на радиальное и осевое биение. И, при необходимости, подкорректировать геометрию.
Thanks, it was easy with strap. Yes, I have driven about 20tkm, not were difficult to balance. Allmost better balance than new one 19" Barzetta wheels.
+Nutguy95 i have a set of wheels i like a lot in a RWD roadster but they are 17x8J all around, i recently bought a new staggered set 17x7.5 & 17x10, now that i have a brand new staggered set i will definitely widen my old wheels nad keep them for reserves
Nutguy95 tell me how it's unsafe. I can see maybe drifting with them. But you should definitely consider how wide they are going to be. But I mean they make offsets. So why in the hell is this dangerous. Also dragsters are going one way, straight. That's it nothing more. Someone didn't take physics lol. I agree buddy. Those are the ones that think they know it all and are on a damn high horse
Ayyy lmao where in there did I say hot rods? And tell me. Usually hot rods are for drag. Ya know, power. Not these fucking ricers. But what would u do with a muscle car? Do u honestly think it's safe to put it on a closed circuit track?
Thanks for posting this! Excellent Video, great method with the ratchet strap. Have you driven on these wheels yet? Also were they difficult to balance? They appear to have gone together nicely.
Funny how people say it's unsafe lmao they probably don't know that the center of most steelies is only tacked in... So those are more than safe, they don't realise how strong that gauge of metal and welds are.
I never stayed on a video for the song but this song has made a exception. By the way nice video if i had all the tools necessary ill probably start a rim company.
I saw a video about one russian guy, who's making same sort of things. He makes it a little different. He got a self made special machine, that bends steel stripe for him into a desired radius. It's pretty simple machihe actually. Just 2 stationary rods in bearings and 1 movable rod between them, also fixed in bearings. By adjusting height of the middle movable rod he can bend steel very smoothly. I guess you could build something like it.
Then spend a day removing the spatter ... why cant you roll and weld free hand and still get a decent even weld seam ..oh I forgot you can't weld. welded must be a million miles of weld on cylindrical parts and rarely used a manipulator or rolls. And always perfect continual welds.. Oh I forgot I am a welder .
ULTIM8STUCH Can't tell if you're upset at me. I'm not saying he can't do it free hand I was simply saying with the use of the lathe it would of made it easier and faster to weld. Clean up would of been the same either way. And I myself also weld and know my way, so good job, glad to hear you can weld perfectly.
It looks totally awesome, I've been thinking about trying out the same thing with mine, but how did you get them balanced? Don't mind the criticism blockers, that is great work considering the tool at your disposal.
I will need to get some steelies for my mustang sleeper build...steelies and v6 body disguise and quiet mufflers with a boosted v8 under the hood. That will be a good build when done.
did almost the same a few years back. final welding was done with the wheel sitting in a plastic kiddie pool filled with water to keep it cool. never ran the car on them, but a friend got them and ran them. actually balanced at tire shop pretty well. i still don't trust them even when i build them, although i made them as safe as possible. guess i'm just afraid of death at 90 mph.
hi i really think you should use some kind of dial when putting back the lip on, how do you know if it's balance? but still awesome work to the max, who knew you can make factory steel rims fly.
So this is how they make those stock steelies so deep , I love the look of them , I see people doing the deep steelie look on volvos alot and I want to be one of them ,
I've seen them , like its called they do look like a racing rim , I'd love to do what they did in the video and take stock steelies widen them 3" for the rear and 2" in the front , than paint em white
This has got to be the longest way to widen rims. I would've just cut the centers of the rim and placed it on a barrel that's already 9.5 wide. It's way faster than adding another amount of rolled steel.
do you guys re-polish and restore work wheels. I have a set of varianza t1s silver machine finish in step lip. how much would it be for the set of four and how long does the process take.
If your afraid of Wheels then stand farther away from the curb until your bus arrives to take you and your little brother to the movies. They want $1200 for wide steelies for a VW MK1 there is a lot of $ to be made if you have the lungs to do the welding. Sweet Job Masuli.
@lochn91 the tire dont seal on the lip. and its not 2 long lips eaither. its just a stock steelie with a strip of sheet metal to extend it. its not the safest thing in the world but it will inflate and keep air if welded correctly. however this is not how the pros do it lol. they use 3 steelies to make one wide one. i would not trust this one with my life or a speed bump lmfao.
safety glove with that grinder bud. My friend almost cut one of his fingers off a few months ago because his finger got caught on the grinding disk and pulled into the grinder.
Don't mean to sound critical but why no gloves through most of the video? I prefer to have my fingers whole. Loved the no stop grinder dancing on the table. Pretty sure those rims are going end up in his moms garden as planters eventually.
what thickness is the sheetmetal you're using? how did you bend it ? not that i'm bad at tooling and machining , but i've never done it before... would tig welding work well too , i've got both but i love tig for the look of the weld sorry if my english is broken :p
Thin metal like that should be welded an inch or two at a time, then rotated 180 degrees and do a couple inches on the other side. He probably warped the metal and it'll never balance
Great vid but was the wheel %100 true. I would have dropped it onto a tyre balancer after tacking it and set it up like a calibration *we use a true 14" rim no tyre to calibrate the balancer" and a 1 rpm rotator to seam weld it. Great stuff though. Never stretched a tyre before but not new to fabrication. Just got to ask myself 1 question would I trust my own welding at 70mph......Nnaaaaa not wheels anyway.
If the steel they used is the same, than the one used on the wheelies and then if the welding is done like it should then it's going to be as strong as it needs to be, depends on the skill level of the person doing this.
I had 14" wide 15" tall steelies with 38" tires under my Land Cruiser, never had any problems of any kind. I know of guys running 20" wide wheels with 49" and 54" tires under fullsize trucks like F350 and HD3500. Those are street legal rigs and driven hard off road, so they get used at 60-70 mph and in extreme off road conditions. Those wheels are widened in basically the same way, so I'm sure they'll hold fine under a Civic or little sportscar, as long as the welds are good.
This video maker said in comments that he does welding as his work, so we can suppose that he knows how to make strong weld joint. And Finlands maximium speed is 120kph (75mph) at summer and 100kph (62mph) at winter, so speeds are not so high at here. Of course those rims are illegal and you might get ticket from police and you will fail MOT test if you go there widened steelies on your ride. There is company named Vannepaja (check vannepaja.fi) in Finland which makes modded steelies to show cars. If I would use modded steelies, I would drive way under speedlimits just for extra safety.
I've seen dozens of factory and aftermarket wheels fail, break, bent and out of round. People drive around in without a care in the world. Factory steelies are usually spot welded together. Jeepers and desert runners have been doing the widened steelies for decades.
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They will work just fine. Many of my friends are using wheels like these. Nice tutorial ;-)
I've never seen how this process is done. Nice job man! :D
still remember a friend of mine using the same method in the late 80's for his holden v6 coupe.
I've do e this on two different sets of wheels and it works great. Spin on cars axle before final bead to make sure it's true. And make sure there is a drop center in the wheel close to one of the beads so your tire mounts easy
Wow that 's really
a craftsmanship!
props to you man!! awesome project!
We've done this on our shop many times already, and there's no problem. :)
После прихватывания сваркой (перед обваркой швов), желательно проверить на радиальное и осевое биение. И, при необходимости, подкорректировать геометрию.
Thanks, it was easy with strap. Yes, I have driven about 20tkm, not were difficult to balance. Allmost better balance than new one 19" Barzetta wheels.
that video quality is pretty darn amazing.
Sweet! Thanks for uploading your work.
every one can hate on him but they aint building like you are thats good work bro BUILT NOT BOUGHT !!!!!
Chris Madayag I agree! I'm a machinist, and I just did a silicone implant on my girlfriend! BUILT, NOT BOUGHT!!!! (Irony may occur)
YETI 16 BOUGHT Then BUILT
Love to see you run a dial gauge over the rim. And put it on a balancer. Good luck
I've got some widened steel rims and they're fine, all depends on the skill of the operator.
+Roman Dybala Exactly my thoughts
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Roman Dybala this is most professional yet i have seen way worse hackjobs done before.
Roman Dybala whats a balancer and a dial gauge do?
love how all the boy racers are saying how unsafe this is even though hotrodders have been doing it for years
+Nutguy95 i have a set of wheels i like a lot in a RWD roadster but they are 17x8J all around, i recently bought a new staggered set 17x7.5 & 17x10, now that i have a brand new staggered set i will definitely widen my old wheels nad keep them for reserves
Nutguy95 tell me how it's unsafe. I can see maybe drifting with them. But you should definitely consider how wide they are going to be. But I mean they make offsets. So why in the hell is this dangerous. Also dragsters are going one way, straight. That's it nothing more. Someone didn't take physics lol. I agree buddy. Those are the ones that think they know it all and are on a damn high horse
Jeremiah Arnold there's a difference between hot rods and dragsters but ok
Ayyy lmao where in there did I say hot rods? And tell me. Usually hot rods are for drag. Ya know, power. Not these fucking ricers. But what would u do with a muscle car? Do u honestly think it's safe to put it on a closed circuit track?
Jeremiah Arnold dude. Nutguy spoke about hot rods. And not everyone who has a hotrod uses it for the strip only
Thanks for posting this! Excellent Video, great method with the ratchet strap. Have you driven on these wheels yet? Also were they difficult to balance? They appear to have gone together nicely.
Great job mate, i luv it !
Wow. real quality job! definitely Respec!
Thx for share this video. Greetings from Austria !
Loved the music man
Very nice work!
Funny how people say it's unsafe lmao they probably don't know that the center of most steelies is only tacked in...
So those are more than safe, they don't realise how strong that gauge of metal and welds are.
coincidence that the video is 7:40 long? Maybe the steelies is for a Volvo 740? :)
+Joacim Lethenström Yes, for a Volvo 740 masuli.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Volvo+740/2013/130716-3.jpg/_full.jpg
+Masuli great looking car !
+Masuli is it true that it is really difficult to get coil overs for volvo's ?
there dosent even exist coilovers in sweden that are bolt on what i now
+swedish minion yes it does
mau5terpiece Hom, nice job i love that Steelies greetings from Mexico City
who gave you my playlist, and dude no glove no love come on now. good work.
I never stayed on a video for the song but this song has made a exception. By the way nice video if i had all the tools necessary ill probably start a rim company.
the safety probably all depends on the grade and thickness of steel you use, as well as the welds...
I saw a video about one russian guy, who's making same sort of things. He makes it a little different. He got a self made special machine, that bends steel stripe for him into a desired radius. It's pretty simple machihe actually. Just 2 stationary rods in bearings and 1 movable rod between them, also fixed in bearings. By adjusting height of the middle movable rod he can bend steel very smoothly. I guess you could build something like it.
Well, I was waiting for it with the tires installed.
Olá tudo bem!
Belo trabalho.
Qual a espessura dessa Chapa q vc usou aí para alargar a roda amigão?
After tacking, should of thrown the wheel back on the lathe put it on a lower rotating speed and do a nice constant bead.
Then spend a day removing the spatter ... why cant you roll and weld free hand and still get a decent even weld seam ..oh I forgot you can't weld. welded must be a million miles of weld on cylindrical parts and rarely used a manipulator or rolls. And always perfect continual welds.. Oh I forgot I am a welder .
ULTIM8STUCH Can't tell if you're upset at me.
I'm not saying he can't do it free hand I was simply saying with the use of the lathe it would of made it easier and faster to weld.
Clean up would of been the same either way.
And I myself also weld and know my way, so good job, glad to hear you can weld perfectly.
only problem that would happen here is if he did strait welding without spreading his heat properly between both sides
ULTIM8STUCH Dude you’re a straight up agro piece of shit.
@@LifesAbe-ach twat
It looks totally awesome, I've been thinking about trying out the same thing with mine, but how did you get them balanced?
Don't mind the criticism blockers, that is great work considering the tool at your disposal.
I will need to get some steelies for my mustang sleeper build...steelies and v6 body disguise and quiet mufflers with a boosted v8 under the hood. That will be a good build when done.
haha definitely!! I was gonna stretch some steelies to 14" so I can throw em on my twin turbo powerstroke Cummins
did almost the same a few years back. final welding was done with the wheel sitting in a plastic kiddie pool filled with water to keep it cool. never ran the car on them, but a friend got them and ran them. actually balanced at tire shop pretty well. i still don't trust them even when i build them, although i made them as safe as possible. guess i'm just afraid of death at 90 mph.
There not made for speeds over 40 lol, i never go fast with any advanced steelies, LOW AND SLOW is the way to go lol,
i don't run them. if a wheel manufacturer doesn't make them, i don't run them.
william webster You don't trust a steel wheel, but you'll trust an aluminum wheel?
sitting the wheel in water while you weld....luckly you didn't die and it would be better to let the wheel cool by itself you get less distortion
kept the heat way down. i was young and stupid then.
They look awesome as!!
1. What is the thickness of the sheet metal?
2. Does it distort much when fully welding like that?
I like his safety gloves!
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Great vid!
hi i really think you should use some kind of dial when putting back the lip on, how do you know if it's balance? but still awesome work to the max, who knew you can make factory steel rims fly.
Cool. Always wondered how this was done.
Measure up from the table atleast to square them in six places or so as you go around and tack!
Thickness of sheetmetal is 2,5-3mm. It was bent allready in the metal workshop from where i ordered them. I think the tig welding is better than mig.
Awesome song dude the first one
fantastic skills man. love this kind of work! can i ask did you experience any wheel balance problems ? just curious thanks.
What the F do you think lol.
So this is how they make those stock steelies so deep , I love the look of them , I see people doing the deep steelie look on volvos alot and I want to be one of them ,
check out diamond racing rims.
I've seen them , like its called they do look like a racing rim , I'd love to do what they did in the video and take stock steelies widen them 3" for the rear and 2" in the front , than paint em white
Diamonds are basically just deep dish steelies
Very similar to aero , I still like the look of stock steelies I guess you would call them that , oem ,
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Bet they balance up well !!!
great job man
Hi masuli.can u please tell me the thickness if the iron sheet you use for the spacer. Btw great job
Very cool, good job
Balanced better than new 19" Barzetta wheels ;)
what kind of metal did you use? & did they work out well? very good video
I have 17 custom steelies on my BMW e34 and it looks so amazing like it says all eyes on me 😎
From a t5?
@@3finnian x3
Damn i wish i knew somewhere in TN i could get this done!
Cleveland, Chattanooga, Calhoun Georgia there's ppl everywhere
Nice job!
This has got to be the longest way to widen rims. I would've just cut the centers of the rim and placed it on a barrel that's already 9.5 wide. It's way faster than adding another amount of rolled steel.
That "feeling" straightening game is strong
That’s gonna be tough to balance.
do you guys re-polish and restore work wheels. I have a set of varianza t1s silver machine finish in step lip. how much would it be for the set of four and how long does the process take.
Espectacular, me diste una muy buena idea para mi fiat 1500 multicarga
If your afraid of Wheels then stand farther away from the curb until your bus arrives to take you and your little brother to the movies. They want $1200 for wide steelies for a VW MK1 there is a lot of $ to be made if you have the lungs to do the welding. Sweet Job Masuli.
Nice video!
What is the first song? Very cool video, ill be doing this with a pair of rims for my 84 vw rabbit tdi.
planning on doing the same to a set of 15" steelies for my mk1 golf...just wondering did you fit tubes or are you an expert welder as they say?
Nice I would like 4 of those right now
Nice job what did use to make it wider
looks cool!
For all the people that say it is unsafe..it is unsafe if the works is not good..but this guy did a great job..trust me it's 100% safe..
Can you make 3 piece split steelies? If so show us too
DizzleEK- i saw a person selling those on craigslist in nashville TN u should check and ask them where they get em.
i would choose banded steels with a nice gloss black over any alloys, i just think there awsome
What is the thickness in millimeters of the sheet that is used to widen the wheel?
essa pisadinha é que faz toda a diferença, haha show!
video was interesting, but the music was making me dizzy!
i got some ford steelies i need widened. is this guy in NJ by any chance?
@lochn91
the tire dont seal on the lip. and its not 2 long lips eaither. its just a stock steelie with a strip of sheet metal to extend it. its not the safest thing in the world but it will inflate and keep air if welded correctly. however this is not how the pros do it lol. they use 3 steelies to make one wide one. i would not trust this one with my life or a speed bump lmfao.
that gauge or measure is the plate you put him in the ring increased
safety glove with that grinder bud. My friend almost cut one of his fingers off a few months ago because his finger got caught on the grinding disk and pulled into the grinder.
Don't mean to sound critical but why no gloves through most of the video? I prefer to have my fingers whole. Loved the no stop grinder dancing on the table. Pretty sure those rims are going end up in his moms garden as planters eventually.
thats pretty simple ! But did you balance them after? was it a good result or not?
Really cool
So dope...
@mausulii what way did you do it here?
he obviously just trusts his craftsmanship
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What is the type of steel used and the thickness
what thickness is the sheetmetal you're using? how did you bend it ?
not that i'm bad at tooling and machining , but i've never done it before...
would tig welding work well too , i've got both but i love tig for the look of the weld
sorry if my english is broken :p
Very very good👌🏻👍🏻
Good job guy
Dont know what it will cost. In finland some shop makes them about 200-300$ of set
steelies are awesome
Thin metal like that should be welded an inch or two at a time, then rotated 180 degrees and do a couple inches on the other side. He probably warped the metal and it'll never balance
Also it's not easy to get welds 100% airtight so do these rims need to be used with inner tubes?
would love some wide steelies for my 95 Corolla.
We've tried it on a corolla already, it looks good.
Dat Nokia N8. Love it! B|
Great vid but was the wheel %100 true. I would have dropped it onto a tyre balancer after tacking it and set it up like a calibration *we use a true 14" rim no tyre to calibrate the balancer" and a 1 rpm rotator to seam weld it. Great stuff though. Never stretched a tyre before but not new to fabrication. Just got to ask myself 1 question would I trust my own welding at 70mph......Nnaaaaa not wheels anyway.
what material did you used
where can i get it
awesome "man"
This is safe just depends on if you weld it right or no
Way Cool Stuff!!
this is skill!!
Skills !
neat but I question the integrity of its strength and its durability at highway speeds and under the full weight of a car ..but very cool nonetheless
If the steel they used is the same, than the one used on the wheelies and then if the welding is done like it should then it's going to be as strong as it needs to be, depends on the skill level of the person doing this.
I could see that but still kinda sketchy
I had 14" wide 15" tall steelies with 38" tires under my Land Cruiser, never had any problems of any kind. I know of guys running 20" wide wheels with 49" and 54" tires under fullsize trucks like F350 and HD3500. Those are street legal rigs and driven hard off road, so they get used at 60-70 mph and in extreme off road conditions. Those wheels are widened in basically the same way, so I'm sure they'll hold fine under a Civic or little sportscar, as long as the welds are good.
This video maker said in comments that he does welding as his work, so we can suppose that he knows how to make strong weld joint. And Finlands maximium speed is 120kph (75mph) at summer and 100kph (62mph) at winter, so speeds are not so high at here. Of course those rims are illegal and you might get ticket from police and you will fail MOT test if you go there widened steelies on your ride.
There is company named Vannepaja (check vannepaja.fi) in Finland which makes modded steelies to show cars. If I would use modded steelies, I would drive way under speedlimits just for extra safety.
I've seen dozens of factory and aftermarket wheels fail, break, bent and out of round. People drive around in without a care in the world. Factory steelies are usually spot welded together. Jeepers and desert runners have been doing the widened steelies for decades.