Yep, we were looking for a luxury SUV and my neighbor suggested Jeep and Dodge...lol my wife and I said NO that's not a luxury brand and there's a reliability issue. So we upgraded from a 2014 Toyota Highlander to a 2024 Cadillac XT4(the 2024 highlander drove the same and is pretty much the same chasis and interior so it's boring). The Cadillac XT4 has no turbo lag that I can feel. Every other car that I test drove had turbo lag, whether short or long...Mercedes GLC300 (least turbo lag), BMW X3 (a little more turbo lag), Porsche Macan S (even more turbo lag), Honda (way too much turbo lag). The Cadillac has these features that RUclipsrs miss: - lighted logo behind the dashboard - pulsating safety seat (most cars only beep) - left behind child in the rear seat alert - capless fuel tank (like my 2017 Corvette C7 ) - umbrella storage in the doors (like Rolls Royce) - active noise cancellation (like my 2017 Corvette C7 with Bose) - power passenger seat with lumbar - free 5G hotspot - stop/start feature is the smoothest I’ve ever experienced that I don't even notice it. My other car is a 2017 Corvette Stingray in stickshift.
It would be poetic justice if those dealers who gouged buyers during the pandemic have no customers now. Their greed is coming back to bite them in the ass.
I have two Jeeps, an 18 Compass Limited with 68K and a 23 Grand Cherokee Altitide with 45k. Other than fluid/filter maintenance costs, I've spent nothing out of pocket. My Jeeps have been bulletproof reliable.
@@carterbishop2935lol you know you’re a jeep owner when you talk about “bullet proof” with low milage. Talk to toyota or honda people about bullet proof haha you’ll learn something.
@@ZuluTango-y6w you crack me up. Bruh, I live in Georgetown Ky which happens to have the largest Toyota mfg facility in the world, located just 1.5 miles from my house. Half of my neighbors work for Toyota and half of them drive anything but a Toyota. Nick, my next door ( works for Toyota) neighbor has a two year old Tundra that has been in the shop more than it's been in his garage. The Tundra finished dead last in quality and reviews in all the car mags comparisons last year. Meanwhile my 21 RAM in addition to my two Jeeps and 2003 Vette soldier on with no out of pocket costs other than basic maintenance. Ooops, I lied. I had to put in new headlight wiring harnesses in my 2003 Vette two years ago.
RUclips full of videos where they’ll take $100,000 truck and the dealer I had 30 more thousand dollars in upgrades. And here’s a secret about upgrades. Upgrades don’t always work. I did that to a Honda Civic trying to turn it into a fast and furious car like in the movies. It worked for a while. But I’m no engineer and the people working on the car aren’t engineers either. In the end, it was a botched mess.
Only $20,000. ? If you want a reasonable American 🇺🇸 Car, it COMES WITH A,” KOREAN ENGINE AND MEXICAN TRANSMISSION !” Sorry, NOT, NEVER, GONNA BUY !!!!!!!!
That was my thought . They are sitting on a huge inventory. Let the employees walk. That is really the only solution. The company needs to go scorched earth to survive. I don't feel sorry for the stupid company or the greedy union. It's unfortunate people have to lose jobs, but there are no lifetime job guarantees. The company can hire scabs after a couple of months and slowly get production going again. With the economy going down the toilet the company will get people willing to work for a decent wage and benefits without the union craziness.
Never feel sorry for a dealer , because they NEVER feel sorry selling a CRAPPY car to you ,and go back to make a Warranty Claim they Totally ignore you !
Stellantis has run Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, and Ram into the ground. Overpriced vehicles with cheap parts, poor fit and finish, and some of the worst reliability in the auto industry. If I am an assembly worker at Stellantis, and have less than 15 years on the job, I would be looking for a new job as fast as possible. Stellantis has one foot off a cliff, and the other on a banana peel. It's headed for a fatal fall. And the workers, dealers, and shareholders will bear the brunt of that fall.
Between the college-educated bean counters who know nothing about building vehicles the public wants, and the UAW being insanely greedy, is it any wonder why Americans don't "buy American" anymore? The manufacturers did this to themselves. I'll keep my 2003 Toyota Matrix with 210,000 miles on it, thank you very much.
i am keeping my 09-10-11 challenger/jeep grand cherokee/ram express-the truck and jeep i purchased new-the srt8 i found with super low mileage 5 years ago...low miles on all three-all paid for-gas/maintenance/insurance is bad enough...i have a ceiling of $30k for a vehicle so i wont buy a new vehicle again. ever. stellantis is destroying what is left of chrysler corporation.
@@MultiSmurf67 the management, the union and the dealers then bad government policies all contributed to the problem . there's not just 1 in this case it took a full committee
It’s not the college educated bean counters you should blame here, it’s the top executives who made the decision how a car will be built and how much! Please be informed.
@@Head-c3n For a time at least, you can get the 1.4 Multiair 4 cyl motor in some models, that's a Fiat design. May still be available, even now on some models.
@Head-c3n thats a very ignorant, incorrect statement. Multiple jeep vehicles are literally fiats, they ride on the Fiat Compact Chassis. This is evidenced by the fact that some models like the cherokee use european lug bolts, instead of the usual lug nuts, and have brake wear sensors, and various other fiat parts
Self inflicted I’m happy Stellantis is in trouble. They deserve EVERY ounce of this. They RUINED the Chryslers brands. Quality and affordability for consumers and job security for North America and UAW workers.
@@apn42 They ARE the worst leading automaker in North America. They don’t deserve our business here so I hope they fall flat on their ass and Chrysler brands become an American company again.
Part of the problem is that Dodge Jeep Chrysler and Stellantis thought that poor people were going to continue getting “free government money”…. The Directors and the greedy unions got greedy
Tavares will simply take the brands and move them all to Europe. He does not care if it hurts our country, our workers, or removes historical American made brands from here.
Stellantis needs to sell Jeep back to the USA. $100k for a Grand Wagoner is just way too much. Good product will create sales, but people will still need to purchase those cars. No purchases, No Jeep. They have missed there opportunity to sell their cars to people that want them. Prices are too high for the average Jeep owner. What were they thinking?
If electric cars are not the future of cars, it just means that cars have no future. You cannot reach net zero in 2050 without banning new ICE cars before 2035.
Stellantis would love for the UAW to go on strike as it actually helps stellantis. Employees on strike means you don't have to pay them and at the same time they can get rid of their super high inventory since no new cars are being built.
Jeep should've never changed the Wrangler from the TJ. You could still find stripped down, bare bones, entry level Jeeps back then. Since the 2010s, the majority of Jeeps now are all stuffed to the gills with options, driving the price higher and higher.
I don't know anyone, who wants an electric car. I do know people who regret getting electric cars. Everyone else wants small, simple, fuel efficient, functional trucks, and utes. Like the mid 90s Ranger, S10, and Blazer. None of this ridiculous luxury electronic crap like, rear cameras, proximity censors, or whatever the freak else they stuff in there, to jack the price up. Also making it impossible to work on your own vehicle.
America is not the world. Americans maybe slow to adopt evs but not in other parts of the world. Like Asean, Brazil, Gulf countries or even down under. In the largest car market in the world China, 50% of their total car sales are evs and set to increase.
@@kamsunleong6648The limitations of EVs and the unreliability of the electric grid will suppress EV uptake in Latin America for decades. I doubt that it will ever take off.
Remember the public at large doesn't want electric cars due to the unreliability and recharging situation. Recycling electric cars and the fires that the batteries present. The electric car that's shipped from over seas they are carried in a separate part of the ship in case one catches fire.
FUD! Best selling vehicle in the World is a BEV. Consumer Reports this year found Tesla to be the cheapest brand to own over 10 years. German ADAC found BEVs to be least breakdown call outs for cars. Average life of a ICE 130k miles. Average life of a BEV 300k miles with no/minimal maintenance. “No fire onboard a ro-ro (roll-on/roll-off) or PCTC (Pure Car and Truck Carrier) has been proven to have been caused by a factory-new EV”. The International Union of Marine Insurance (IUMI). "Our research found there's a 0.0012% chance your passenger electric vehicle battery will catch fire, which is a much smaller risk than we expected to find. Many sources quote a 0.1% chance of your petrol or diesel car igniting." evfiresafe 'How common are EV fires?', Jan 18, 2022. June 2021, Click2Houston reported that over 6.5 million ICE vehicles were under recall because they could catch fire at any moment.
I think car manufacturers are working under a false precept as the people who want electricity vehicles have already bought them. For most of the rest of the people EV's don't make sense or are completely useless for their needs. Having a car company talk about wanting a EV at regular car prices, what it really is is vehicles that are less capable sometimes to the point of not being fit for purpose while at the same time demanding a premium for it.
I have an idea? Get rid of the Union, they're no good , I made the mistake of joining the UAW back in the 1980's .. I'll never make that mistake again ..
@@Head-c3nknucklehead, there are labor laws now that cover work conditions. Employees can still go on strike without a corrupt union. Why would anyone want to govern 0% of their check to a union?
You can make EVs the same price of a regular priced car and people still won’t buy them! THAT is the problem these manufacturers and governments just can’t seem to understand. You can’t change stupid!
It is not the problem of the cars. It is the problem of the lack of infrastructure being in place, being fast enough and actually working to supplant gas stations. Not to mention, the so called "Fast Chargers" are not exactly competing for business with "convenience" stations that have not just gas, but expensive snacks and misc. other things you can get while on the road. Where as the "Fast Chargers" don't have any of that, let lone over head covers, windshield cleaner stations and the most important thing, restrooms while you sit and wait on the charge.(should the charger actually work) So, EV's can exist IF the owner has a garage or someplace convenient to charge up over night and does not extend the trip past the point they cannot get back home. Which is not every person on the globe obviously.
A production shutdown would be bad for the union and good for the company. With so much unsold inventory, they need to stop production anyway. The company cannot survive without selling overpriced vehicles but no one wants their overpriced vehicles. The outlook is very bad….
What kills me is that the government is willing to shovel $1,000,000,000 to Stellantis to build more poor quality, overpriced vehicles, when for 10% of that, they could fund Aptera who are on the verge of producing state of the art solar-electric cars priced between approx $27K - $40K.
Here is the problem the big bosses at companies make the "strategic" decisions that run them into the ground, but they are not the ones who suffer from it. No they have their golden parachutes and what not, but the workers have no parachutes at all, and they are the ones that have to bear the brunt of any belt tightening.
Yep, we were looking for a luxury SUV and my neighbor suggested Jeep and Dodge...lol my wife and I said NO that's not a luxury brand and there's a reliability issue. So we upgraded from a 2014 Toyota Highlander to a 2024 Cadillac XT4(the 2024 highlander drove the same and is pretty much the same chasis and interior so it's boring). The Cadillac XT4 has no turbo lag that I can feel. Every other car that I test drove had turbo lag, whether short or long...Mercedes GLC300 (least turbo lag), BMW X3 (a little more turbo lag), Porsche Macan S (even more turbo lag), Honda (way too much turbo lag). The Cadillac has these features that RUclipsrs miss: - lighted logo behind the dashboard - pulsating safety seat (most cars only beep) - left behind child in the rear seat alert - capless fuel tank (like my 2017 Corvette C7 ) - umbrella storage in the doors (like Rolls Royce) - active noise cancellation (like my 2017 Corvette C7 with Bose) - power passenger seat with lumbar - free 5G hotspot - stop/start feature is the smoothest I’ve ever experienced that I don't even notice it. My other car is a 2017 Corvette Stingray in stickshift.
You know who else gets caught in this mess ??? The NEW OWNERS of any of these vehicles... With UAW On Strike, NO SPARE PARTS are being built either. So anyone who suffers the MISFORTUNE of needing replacement parts is ALSO SCREWED. Some Insurance companies are TOTALING cars because it is CHEAPER to total it, 😵💫 than pay for car rentals while waiting for replacement parts to become available from STELLANTIS !
How many people does this guy think can afford a $75,000 to $100,000 + truck? With tons of layoffs and the cost of groceries, and everything else going through the roof the last thing they're thinking about is a luxury car or truck. The car/truck manufacturers and dealers see that average folks are really struggling economically so they think well, this is a good time to really screw them over. The point everyone should remember is that the people at the top of these organizations making these decisions really don't have any skin in the game. No matter if cars/trucks sell or don't sell, they will be just fine. They can take their unjustifiable huge earnings back to their mansions and never have to work again.
What does it matter?If the dealerships are sinking?They did it to themselves all of them.The car manufacturers to dealerships with ridiculous prices that nobody can afford
That should be reassuring for the folks I saw broke down in their new Grand Cherokee L this morning. Stopped to see if they needed help, they had already called for a tow truck for their SUV with 7300 mile on it. Real quality there Stellantis
I bought a 1988 Jeep Cherokee 2 door 4 cylinder new in '88 for $19,300. Still looks great. My son drives it now, put 24,000 miles on it last year. Jeeps these days lose half their value driving off the lot. Like a lot of things these days, things cost way more than they're worth.
It all sums up to one word: GREED. Waiting for other manufacturers to feel the pain because supply far exceeds demand. It's long past time for the law of supply and demand to start dropping prices drastically.
The Other Problem,Who Gave The Government The Permission To Get Involved,With Sellantis.And Where Is The Government Getting The Money,So Are They Printing Money Again?
2021 4Xe is always under recall & unsafe to drive or sell. Thankfully, Nebraska Lemon Law has us getting our money back. Not sure what Jeep owners in other states will do?
There is no reason for me to worry about Stellantis I would not have one if you gave it to me. Reality they build crappy cars and trucks. Always have always will if they even stay in business. From engines that turn into bricks to automatic transmissions that burn up Paint jobs that often flake off within 2 years. producing shit cars and then trying to sell them at gucci prices does not work. They killed the golden goose and the US tax payer is getting to pay the price for a company that likely will go belly up in a year
When Jeep was part of AMC they were great & reliable with an inline 6 engine.Wranglers are supposed to be rugged,not filled with unreliable electronics at a high price hardly anyone can afford.
I don’t feel sorry for the dealerships. They had no problem adding thousands of dollars in markups because some customers didn’t have a choice due to low or no inventory.
I see this as multifaceted. That is, folks are used to "luxury" vehicles, electric everything, in other words, feature creep, size creep, SUV creep, the auto manufacturers were glad to give them all this, then price creep also ensues, now, the average mid sized sedan runs 40K-60K a piece on average, with little to no small vehicles available for those of us that prefer small vehicles to be had, that also cost 20K-25K or so. Add in dealers trying to tack on features and prices to vehicles and it's a wonder that a basic standard cab truck is available for $40K these days as they are all luxury vehicles with crew cabs costing 60K+. The Government insisting on EV's as if it's a panacea to everything that's wrong and banning gas based heat/cooking even in many states is putting the cart before the horse as electricity is not everything, especially right now with our electric grid being what it is. I think we all have lost sight of things, and with politics being what it is at the moment, prices being what it is, it's a wonder folks are not buying. Add in rust in states that are in the rust belt, forcing folks to replace cars every 5-8 years as frames rust out, is not helping anything. I'm glad I don't live in the rust belt. I drive a car that's over 20 years old, still solid, has over 200K on it and going strong as I can't afford to replace it at the moment, so I just keep up on the maintenance and repair it as it needs it.
I used to work for jeep dealership. I worked In service and trust me you have no idea on how cheep these cars are and trash. I can’t say too much but you don’t want those issues.
I bought a 1946 Jeep in 1979 put a 1964 Falcon motor in it and it still goes ! Parts are not a problem and anyone can fix them .The Dealers hate it when the owners service their own vehicles ! A dealer wanted to charge me $160 just to plug in his Analyser to get a read out of possible causes for why the Chinese made car won't start .
The solution is simple the car company has to have a fire sale and sell every vehicle in inventory at fire sale prices then the factories can continue building vehicles. Yes the company will not make revenues but it will continue to build vehicles, otherwise it’s game over and still factories and no inventory completely.
If the union workers go on strike, wouldn't that be counter productive? They might lose their jobs already. I would think that It would be alot easier for Stellantis to shut a plant down when the employees aren't working, like during a strike.
So Stellantis sabotages FCA because they wanted the company to go bankrupt since they couldn't just buy Jeep and Ram brand from FCA alone. Worst than what Mercedes did.
Neighbor of mine worked Chevrolet for 17years, then went to a ram Jeep Chrysler dealer. He said the Grand Wagoneer was one of the biggest POS he’s ever seen. Problem after problem, meanwhile you just paid $100k plus for this junk vehicle.
Stellantis is in a death spiral with no escape. Certainly they have too many brands, but none of them can be saved. In ten years there will be no ICE cars, and Stellantis is nowhere in the transition to electric vehicles. A UAW strike is something that Stellantis should urgently hope for, as it will reduce its costs and unsold inventories. Remember when Kodak and Fuji owned the whole photography business with their expertise in film, developing, and photographic paper? Now all of that antiquated technology is worthless. Remember Block Buster Video in the time before Netflix? This is the fate of Stellantis and most of the legacy car makers.
Stellantis sells Ram and Jeep badged vehicules on other countries which are cheaper. So, yes they might close their plants in the USA, but will keep making them for other markets. This are two of their best and most recognizabled "brands" in the world.
If I am spending 100K? I’m definitely not spending that on a Jeep! I’m going to get a Mercedes or something else in the luxury market! Jeep is NOT the luxury market!😂
I'm not buying a Jeep OR a Mercedes. I'm buying three nice used vehicles that are reliable and don't take a fortune to fix (they're out there). People waste soooo much money on new vehicles that cost way too much and no young dealer mechanic knows how to work on. Just because they have power windows and a back-up camera. I still drive my (upgraded) 1968 Ford Falcon daily with no problems. It looks like shit, drives like a school bus with the 3-speed manual and a 200 CI 6, but it turns more heads here than any Wagoneer. My wife, however, drives the 2020 Lincoln Corsair.
Stellantis is squandering its brand and has no new product development, no replacement, for the Charger or Challenger and the FIAT GROUP is floundering now in Europe.
To hell with dealership and especially Jeep dealerships, every last one of them are thieves. From their $225.00 an hour+ labor cost, their used cars that are sold at 300% above wholesale (for what they paid for the car) and the planned obsolescence junk new vehicles on their lots. These companies and their dealerships did this to themselves with their greed, I don't feel sorry for any of them going out of business.
They might as well forget EV's when BYD can sell them for $10K. Even with the 100% tarrifs they still can't compete. Yes they need to go back to basics and mothball non profitable plants and sell off inventory at fire sale prices. The union is going to have to swallow the bitter pill and can forget any demands. We all need to ask why is this CEO still in command?
BYD do not export anything for $10k. Typically more expensive than a Tesla in Europe. "BYD Atto 3 ranged from 81% to 174% higher than in China. Dolphin prices ranged from 39% to 178% higher, and Seal prices from 30% to 136% higher." Tesla Model 3SR in Germany $43,707 - BYD Seal $48139. Reuters April 26, 2024.
Got rid of the v8 and focused on tech and lots of features nobody needed. If I want a sunroof I need to spend 10k in options for a 1200 buck sunroof. Now I gotta pay sales tax on that extra 12k
In my country dealers do not stockpile brand new cars. Here, people go to a car dealer and order a (expensive) personalized configuration from the catalog, waiting 3-12 months for the car. If demand is low the slow down the assembly lines, so there never are brand new cars stacked at dealers as inventory. As used cars are far too expensive too and the fees for long-term rentals have heavily increased last year, the only way to get a reasonable prices car is to look for a pre-registered bargain deal. What currently looks like a good deal is to lease a Jeep Avenger for 180 € a month. I do not not know the nasty fine-print of the contract, but that is ~3000 $ fixed costs and below the cars depreciation ...
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mary Barra is bailing as GM figures are in the dumper just like Stellantis. What a pile of greed
Yep, we were looking for a luxury SUV and my neighbor suggested Jeep and Dodge...lol my wife and I said NO that's not a luxury brand and there's a reliability issue.
So we upgraded from a 2014 Toyota Highlander to a 2024 Cadillac XT4(the 2024 highlander drove the same and is pretty much the same chasis and interior so it's boring).
The Cadillac XT4 has no turbo lag that I can feel. Every other car that I test drove had turbo lag, whether short or long...Mercedes GLC300 (least turbo lag), BMW X3 (a little more turbo lag), Porsche Macan S (even more turbo lag), Honda (way too much turbo lag).
The Cadillac has these features that RUclipsrs miss:
- lighted logo behind the dashboard
- pulsating safety seat (most cars only beep)
- left behind child in the rear seat alert
- capless fuel tank (like my 2017 Corvette C7 )
- umbrella storage in the doors (like Rolls Royce)
- active noise cancellation (like my 2017 Corvette C7 with Bose)
- power passenger seat with lumbar
- free 5G hotspot
- stop/start feature is the smoothest I’ve ever experienced that I don't even notice it.
My other car is a 2017 Corvette Stingray in stickshift.
@@mrpmj00 LMMFAO.
All company going to China
It would be poetic justice if those dealers who gouged buyers during the pandemic have no customers now. Their greed is coming back to bite them in the ass.
Yup!
Thank god
How about poor build quality and un-reliable always in the shop?
Thats just it. Jeep should be sold to American investors who want to bring back quality and reliability. Then people would buy them again.
I have two Jeeps, an 18 Compass Limited with 68K and a 23 Grand Cherokee Altitide with 45k. Other than fluid/filter maintenance costs, I've spent nothing out of pocket. My Jeeps have been bulletproof reliable.
@@carterbishop2935lol you know you’re a jeep owner when you talk about “bullet proof” with low milage. Talk to toyota or honda people about bullet proof haha you’ll learn something.
I've had many jeep and they were all solid. Zero issues. Just my experience
@@ZuluTango-y6w you crack me up. Bruh, I live in Georgetown Ky which happens to have the largest Toyota mfg facility in the world, located just 1.5 miles from my house. Half of my neighbors work for Toyota and half of them drive anything but a Toyota. Nick, my next door ( works for Toyota) neighbor has a two year old Tundra that has been in the shop more than it's been in his garage. The Tundra finished dead last in quality and reviews in all the car mags comparisons last year. Meanwhile my 21 RAM in addition to my two Jeeps and 2003 Vette soldier on with no out of pocket costs other than basic maintenance. Ooops, I lied. I had to put in new headlight wiring harnesses in my 2003 Vette two years ago.
Stellantis is learning the hard way, building way OVER PRICED GARBAGE has never been a winning business model.
Don't feel sorry for the dealers either. Anytime a car hits the dealership that's even halfway affordable, they do a 20,000 dollar markup.
Dealers suck too
RUclips full of videos where they’ll take $100,000 truck and the dealer I had 30 more thousand dollars in upgrades. And here’s a secret about upgrades. Upgrades don’t always work. I did that to a Honda Civic trying to turn it into a fast and furious car like in the movies. It worked for a while. But I’m no engineer and the people working on the car aren’t engineers either. In the end, it was a botched mess.
@@HenryWeems-kr9wr not all dealers
Just most.
Only $20,000. ?
If you want a reasonable American 🇺🇸 Car, it COMES WITH A,” KOREAN ENGINE AND MEXICAN TRANSMISSION !”
Sorry, NOT, NEVER, GONNA BUY !!!!!!!!
why would you worry about a strike when your problem is a large supply of unsold cars?
That was my thought . They are sitting on a huge inventory. Let the employees walk. That is really the only solution. The company needs to go scorched earth to survive. I don't feel sorry for the stupid company or the greedy union. It's unfortunate people have to lose jobs, but there are no lifetime job guarantees. The company can hire scabs after a couple of months and slowly get production going again. With the economy going down the toilet the company will get people willing to work for a decent wage and benefits without the union craziness.
@johnstudd4245 I'm gone make this REAL Short. You don't have a clue who fault it is! Especially talking about a union.
@@ericcollins2349 Sorry Charlie, that's real world. To bad it bothers you.
Never feel sorry for a dealer , because they NEVER feel sorry selling a CRAPPY car to you ,and go back to make a Warranty Claim they Totally ignore you !
Stellantis has run Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, and Ram into the ground. Overpriced vehicles with cheap parts, poor fit and finish, and some of the worst reliability in the auto industry. If I am an assembly worker at Stellantis, and have less than 15 years on the job, I would be looking for a new job as fast as possible. Stellantis has one foot off a cliff, and the other on a banana peel. It's headed for a fatal fall. And the workers, dealers, and shareholders will bear the brunt of that fall.
Headed for a fall? It's stock is at about 1/2 of it's March peak and down 34% YTD.
"Greed will imprison us all" I remember the time Chrysler, Plymouth and Dodge sold cheap, affordable cars for the masses, not anymore.
Now they barely sell anything!
LOL
chrysler Dodge jeep used to what you bought when you couldn’t afford a GM or even a Ford.
I see nothing saying Jeep is closing.
Same muppets talking who were claiming Carvana was going out of business
@@roman9762 Carvana has serious problems and you know it.
@@BlackJesus8463 not anymore. Anyone that knew better has made a good chunk of change on their stock
It's not! It's bait to earn a "View"
@@BlackJesus8463 They do have issues but the wonks were trumpeting their demise for years now
Between the college-educated bean counters who know nothing about building vehicles the public wants, and the UAW being insanely greedy, is it any wonder why Americans don't "buy American" anymore? The manufacturers did this to themselves. I'll keep my 2003 Toyota Matrix with 210,000 miles on it, thank you very much.
i am keeping my 09-10-11 challenger/jeep grand cherokee/ram express-the truck and jeep i purchased new-the srt8 i found with super low mileage 5 years ago...low miles on all three-all paid for-gas/maintenance/insurance is bad enough...i have a ceiling of $30k for a vehicle so i wont buy a new vehicle again. ever. stellantis is destroying what is left of chrysler corporation.
@@MultiSmurf67 RIGHT ON! I wish you the best with your current vehicles!
@@MultiSmurf67 the management, the union and the dealers then bad government policies all contributed to the problem . there's not just 1 in this case it took a full committee
It’s not the college educated bean counters you should blame here, it’s the top executives who made the decision how a car will be built and how much! Please be informed.
Very well put. Is there a CEO at any of the Big 3 that's a car guy?
It was once said ' Too much Fiat. Not enough Jeep '
Good comment
Ok smart one there's not one part on a jeep made by fiat
@@Head-c3n having owned two jeeps made by Fiat Chrysler Automotive who turned into stellantis. Yes, yes it is 😲
@@Head-c3n For a time at least, you can get the 1.4 Multiair 4 cyl motor in some models, that's a Fiat design. May still be available, even now on some models.
@Head-c3n thats a very ignorant, incorrect statement. Multiple jeep vehicles are literally fiats, they ride on the Fiat Compact Chassis. This is evidenced by the fact that some models like the cherokee use european lug bolts, instead of the usual lug nuts, and have brake wear sensors, and various other fiat parts
Self inflicted I’m happy Stellantis is in trouble. They deserve EVERY ounce of this. They RUINED the Chryslers brands. Quality and affordability for consumers and job security for North America and UAW workers.
Probably the worst brand on the marked.
@@apn42 They ARE the worst leading automaker in North America. They don’t deserve our business here so I hope they fall flat on their ass and Chrysler brands become an American company again.
Daimler didn't improve things either
Italians are not good at business. Pretty and expensive cars/SUV's that don't run and rust the first chance they get.
@@jar407Mercedes jeeps last well and lasted well. We had a liberty for 16 years.
200 + dealerships in our Province and nothing is moving. Oh well,,, let them go broke
They refused to sell BEVs and now they can’t sell ICE vehicles. What does this tell us?!?
@@nextechsolutions5955That people are wising up and they realize Jeep/Dodge/Chryslers are total pieces of crap?
Damn I really resent our government for giving out bailouts. I hate everything that they do because they never do anything right.
STELLANTIS just needs to sell the company back to Frank Rhodes Jr like he offered to buy
He doesn't have the money.
True
I love it. Dealers have been ripping us off for years. 😮
Part of the problem is that Dodge Jeep Chrysler and Stellantis thought that poor people were going to continue getting “free government money”…. The Directors and the greedy unions got greedy
Probably what will happen is Stalantis will leave the North American market and no one will be working at Stalantis .
Tavares will simply take the brands and move them all to Europe. He does not care if it hurts our country, our workers, or removes historical American made brands from here.
Stellantis needs to sell Jeep back to the USA. $100k for a Grand Wagoner is just way too much. Good product will create sales, but people will still need to purchase those cars. No purchases, No Jeep.
They have missed there opportunity to sell their cars to people that want them.
Prices are too high for the average Jeep owner. What were they thinking?
yes my 1995 ZJ grand Cherokee 4.0 inline I-6 254k miles still running strong
Vehicles are nothing more than depreciating liabilities. Purchasing any new car today doesn't make financial sense!
Yes, Thank you. I have been saying that for years.
@bryancarlson3673 No one ever built wealth by buying a new personal vehicle.
But Robotaxis do!
Maybe try putting a real engine in them again
No ?
Try putting a AMERICAN MADE,” POWERTRANE !”
In them.
Korean Engines belong in Korea !
Mexican TRANSMISSIONS, belong in MÉXICO !!!
A American made duel fuel 6 , the same with a hemi, lower cost
Sure, let's build an emission free V8.
@@didierpuzenat7280 or just keep refining the current one like GM and Ford
@@raysilke5525 "Refining" is too little too late, we won't reach net zero in 2050 by building huge amount of ICE cars in 2024.
Electric cars is not the future. I will never buy one.
Just bought a new gas super duty f a ev
There's no force on earth that can stop an idea whose time has come.
Victor Hugo
@@kamsunleong6648 it’s not time yet. Maybe that time will never come.
@@winstonrocco1981 what is that?
If electric cars are not the future of cars, it just means that cars have no future. You cannot reach net zero in 2050 without banning new ICE cars before 2035.
Don’t cry for dealers, remember the 50k dealer markup on every decent machine
With those prices yes, they'll go out of business. Ceo and uaw doomed them
Stellantis would love for the UAW to go on strike as it actually helps stellantis. Employees on strike means you don't have to pay them and at the same time they can get rid of their super high inventory since no new cars are being built.
Jeep should've never changed the Wrangler from the TJ. You could still find stripped down, bare bones, entry level Jeeps back then. Since the 2010s, the majority of Jeeps now are all stuffed to the gills with options, driving the price higher and higher.
I have a 2020 2doors stick with manual window only difference from my tj is the radio 😂 and this will be the last jeep i buy for sure
You still can buy a stripped down jeep all you have to do is order it.
@@Head-c3n which most people won't.
Personally, I don't want an EV even if it was free.
ICE is Dead! Wait tell gas goes to 12.00 a gallon when you can GET it! I don't want to hear it Then! Wa Wa Wa....
You will stay poor.
I don't know anyone, who wants an electric car.
I do know people who regret getting electric cars.
Everyone else wants small, simple, fuel efficient, functional trucks, and utes. Like the mid 90s Ranger, S10, and Blazer. None of this ridiculous luxury electronic crap like, rear cameras, proximity censors, or whatever the freak else they stuff in there, to jack the price up.
Also making it impossible to work on your own vehicle.
Rear view cameras are necessary on way too many newer vehicles because of the latters' piss-poor blind spots
America is not the world. Americans maybe slow to adopt evs but not in other parts of the world. Like Asean, Brazil, Gulf countries or even down under. In the largest car market in the world China, 50% of their total car sales are evs and set to increase.
@@kamsunleong6648The limitations of EVs and the unreliability of the electric grid will suppress EV uptake in Latin America for decades. I doubt that it will ever take off.
Build a CJ like the 70s for $20k and watch what happens...
Nobody builds a stripped down rugged 4x4 anymore and havent for years.
Yup I had one
You can’t build squat for $20k any more due to the Bidenomics inflation.
I know. Why is that? Maybe people buy in to the "luxury" hype. Cars aren't luxury, they're all s*^tboxes.
Remember the public at large doesn't want electric cars due to the unreliability and recharging situation. Recycling electric cars and the fires that the batteries present. The electric car that's shipped from over seas they are carried in a separate part of the ship in case one catches fire.
FUD!
Best selling vehicle in the World is a BEV.
Consumer Reports this year found Tesla to be the cheapest brand to own over 10 years.
German ADAC found BEVs to be least breakdown call outs for cars.
Average life of a ICE 130k miles. Average life of a BEV 300k miles with no/minimal maintenance.
“No fire onboard a ro-ro (roll-on/roll-off) or PCTC (Pure Car and Truck Carrier) has been proven to have been caused by a factory-new EV”. The International Union of Marine Insurance (IUMI).
"Our research found there's a 0.0012% chance your passenger electric vehicle battery will catch fire, which is a much smaller risk than we expected to find. Many sources quote a 0.1% chance of your petrol or diesel car igniting." evfiresafe 'How common are EV fires?', Jan 18, 2022.
June 2021, Click2Houston reported that over 6.5 million ICE vehicles were under recall because they could catch fire at any moment.
I think car manufacturers are working under a false precept as the people who want electricity vehicles have already bought them. For most of the rest of the people EV's don't make sense or are completely useless for their needs. Having a car company talk about wanting a EV at regular car prices, what it really is is vehicles that are less capable sometimes to the point of not being fit for purpose while at the same time demanding a premium for it.
JEEP is failing and it's not just the Wagoneer or Grand Wagoneer. It is the price bump of the Wrangler, too. The brand managers need to be fired.
Let them go out of business with Ford and Gm.
I have an idea? Get rid of the Union, they're no good , I made the mistake of joining the UAW back in the 1980's ..
I'll never make that mistake again ..
Yes McDonald's pays you a lot more
@@Head-c3nknucklehead, there are labor laws now that cover work conditions. Employees can still go on strike without a corrupt union. Why would anyone want to govern 0% of their check to a union?
You can make EVs the same price of a regular priced car and people still won’t buy them! THAT is the problem these manufacturers and governments just can’t seem to understand. You can’t change stupid!
Government want people switch from ICE to EV before 2030. Now maybe 2035.
The trailer parks definitely won't be buying them. I see them left and right in my area.
It is not the problem of the cars. It is the problem of the lack of infrastructure being in place, being fast enough and actually working to supplant gas stations. Not to mention, the so called "Fast Chargers" are not exactly competing for business with "convenience" stations that have not just gas, but expensive snacks and misc. other things you can get while on the road. Where as the "Fast Chargers" don't have any of that, let lone over head covers, windshield cleaner stations and the most important thing, restrooms while you sit and wait on the charge.(should the charger actually work) So, EV's can exist IF the owner has a garage or someplace convenient to charge up over night and does not extend the trip past the point they cannot get back home. Which is not every person on the globe obviously.
@@WW-wf8tu Exactly, I live in New Mexico. hundreds of miles to the next large city and NO chargers in between,. No current bushes anywhere.
@@DaveBarr-b2v No electricity in New Mexico.
Government needs to stay out of this. Not even American, let someone else buy it and make it profitable.
Sink or swim. It don't matter to a lot of consumers. NO BAILOUTS!!!!!
They need to fire the CEO see how he likes it. They're not selling Vehicles because nobody can afford the ridiculous high prices. Geniuses
EV .R .A. Joke. Just like most of all Americans Brand vehicles. O and all you U.A.W workers WANTED $50 a hour. You see what that's got you.
They will shit down. They have been making garbage for years and they will pay the price. Let them shut down.
Shit down? Please go back to school
Exactly
A production shutdown would be bad for the union and good for the company. With so much unsold inventory, they need to stop production anyway. The company cannot survive without selling overpriced vehicles but no one wants their overpriced vehicles. The outlook is very bad….
That stupid union is playing right into their hands.
Remember, there's the USMCA trade agreement with Canada, Mexico and the US. Manufactures can shift expensive manufacturing to Mexico without penalty.
Many people predicted this was going to happen.
Temporally!
What kills me is that the government is willing to shovel $1,000,000,000 to Stellantis to build more poor quality, overpriced vehicles, when for 10% of that, they could fund Aptera who are on the verge of producing state of the art solar-electric cars priced between approx $27K - $40K.
There’s no market for Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge outside of US, it so small it’s a jock. Don’t know why Fiat bought them in the first place.
I saw a dealership with a dozen grand wagoneers all lined up in front with a 100k sticker on each one like they were proud of the price!
Crisis? No, this is what Stellantis wants to do and NOT for their customers who cannot affort 100k vehicles. 😮
If I were dropping $100K on an SUV, anything Chrysler would at the bottom of my wish list.
Here is the problem the big bosses at companies make the "strategic" decisions that run them into the ground, but they are not the ones who suffer from it. No they have their golden parachutes and what not, but the workers have no parachutes at all, and they are the ones that have to bear the brunt of any belt tightening.
Yep, we were looking for a luxury SUV and my neighbor suggested Jeep and Dodge...lol my wife and I said NO that's not a luxury brand and there's a reliability issue.
So we upgraded from a 2014 Toyota Highlander to a 2024 Cadillac XT4(the 2024 highlander drove the same and is pretty much the same chasis and interior so it's boring).
The Cadillac XT4 has no turbo lag that I can feel. Every other car that I test drove had turbo lag, whether short or long...Mercedes GLC300 (least turbo lag), BMW X3 (a little more turbo lag), Porsche Macan S (even more turbo lag), Honda (way too much turbo lag).
The Cadillac has these features that RUclipsrs miss:
- lighted logo behind the dashboard
- pulsating safety seat (most cars only beep)
- left behind child in the rear seat alert
- capless fuel tank (like my 2017 Corvette C7 )
- umbrella storage in the doors (like Rolls Royce)
- active noise cancellation (like my 2017 Corvette C7 with Bose)
- power passenger seat with lumbar
- free 5G hotspot
- stop/start feature is the smoothest I’ve ever experienced that I don't even notice it.
My other car is a 2017 Corvette Stingray in stickshift.
You must be fun at parties.
You know who else gets caught in this mess ??? The NEW OWNERS of any of these vehicles... With UAW On Strike, NO SPARE PARTS are being built either. So anyone who suffers the MISFORTUNE of needing replacement parts is ALSO SCREWED.
Some Insurance companies are TOTALING cars because it is CHEAPER to total it, 😵💫 than pay for car rentals while waiting for replacement parts to become available from STELLANTIS !
How many people does this guy think can afford a $75,000 to $100,000 + truck?
With tons of layoffs and the cost of groceries, and everything else going through the roof the last thing they're thinking about is a luxury car or truck.
The car/truck manufacturers and dealers see that average folks are really struggling economically so they think well, this is a good time to really screw them over.
The point everyone should remember is that the people at the top of these organizations making these decisions really don't have any skin in the game. No matter if cars/trucks sell or don't sell, they will be just fine. They can take their unjustifiable huge earnings back to their mansions and never have to work again.
What does it matter?If the dealerships are sinking?They did it to themselves all of them.The car manufacturers to dealerships with ridiculous prices that nobody can afford
That should be reassuring for the folks I saw broke down in their new Grand Cherokee L this morning. Stopped to see if they needed help, they had already called for a tow truck for their SUV with 7300 mile on it. Real quality there Stellantis
I bought a 1988 Jeep Cherokee 2 door 4 cylinder new in '88 for $19,300. Still looks great. My son drives it now, put 24,000 miles on it last year. Jeeps these days lose half their value driving off the lot. Like a lot of things these days, things cost way more than they're worth.
The video repeats itself again and again and again. Is any one home???
A few years ago a coworker bought a long body jeep for less than $35000 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
60k for a pickup. Give me a break! fkg ridiculous
It all sums up to one word: GREED. Waiting for other manufacturers to feel the pain because supply far exceeds demand. It's long past time for the law of supply and demand to start dropping prices drastically.
Jeep needs a new owner!
Hey Elon, don't you need an ICE division?
A descendant of the original Dodge founder has made an offer for the Chrysler corporation.
Elon won't waste his money.
Serves them right !!!
Give every worker a free car
How about, Give every CEO a free robot?
The Other Problem,Who Gave The Government The Permission To Get Involved,With Sellantis.And Where Is The Government Getting The Money,So Are They Printing Money Again?
2021 4Xe is always under recall & unsafe to drive or sell. Thankfully, Nebraska Lemon Law has us getting our money back. Not sure what Jeep owners in other states will do?
There is no reason for me to worry about Stellantis I would not have one if you gave it to me. Reality they build crappy cars and trucks. Always have always will if they even stay in business. From engines that turn into bricks to automatic transmissions that burn up Paint jobs that often flake off within 2 years. producing shit cars and then trying to sell them at gucci prices does not work. They killed the golden goose and the US tax payer is getting to pay the price for a company that likely will go belly up in a year
When Jeep was part of AMC they were great & reliable with an inline 6 engine.Wranglers are supposed to be rugged,not filled with unreliable electronics at a high price hardly anyone can afford.
@@MultiMusicbuff same with the 4.0 in line I-6 engine
That pretty much sums it up. How to kill an iconic brand? By asking premium prices for crap.
PEOPLE WANT RELIABLE AND AFFORDABLE CARS 👏🏻👏🏻
It’s that simple.
I don’t feel sorry for the dealerships. They had no problem adding thousands of dollars in markups because some customers didn’t have a choice due to low or no inventory.
Easiest fix is to force the dealerships to sell cars without the crazy markups and inflated prices
Government bail outs AGAIN!
I see this as multifaceted. That is, folks are used to "luxury" vehicles, electric everything, in other words, feature creep, size creep, SUV creep, the auto manufacturers were glad to give them all this, then price creep also ensues, now, the average mid sized sedan runs 40K-60K a piece on average, with little to no small vehicles available for those of us that prefer small vehicles to be had, that also cost 20K-25K or so.
Add in dealers trying to tack on features and prices to vehicles and it's a wonder that a basic standard cab truck is available for $40K these days as they are all luxury vehicles with crew cabs costing 60K+.
The Government insisting on EV's as if it's a panacea to everything that's wrong and banning gas based heat/cooking even in many states is putting the cart before the horse as electricity is not everything, especially right now with our electric grid being what it is.
I think we all have lost sight of things, and with politics being what it is at the moment, prices being what it is, it's a wonder folks are not buying. Add in rust in states that are in the rust belt, forcing folks to replace cars every 5-8 years as frames rust out, is not helping anything. I'm glad I don't live in the rust belt. I drive a car that's over 20 years old, still solid, has over 200K on it and going strong as I can't afford to replace it at the moment, so I just keep up on the maintenance and repair it as it needs it.
A simple survey of the average American's income would tell Fiat/Dodge/Jeep that their pricing strategy was not sustainable.
Screw the UAW too.
I used to work for jeep dealership. I worked In service and trust me you have no idea on how cheep these cars are and trash. I can’t say too much but you don’t want those issues.
"With a pocket full of cash and a tank full of gas, you're free. With electric vehicles and digital currency, you're controlled."
I bought a 1946 Jeep in 1979 put a 1964 Falcon motor in it and it still goes ! Parts are not a problem and anyone can fix them .The Dealers hate it when the owners service their own vehicles ! A dealer wanted to charge me $160 just to plug in his Analyser to get a read out of possible causes for why the Chinese made car won't start .
Hopefully they’ll go completely under with no bail out this time. Do not bail them out. They need to figure this out all by themselves.
The solution is simple the car company has to have a fire sale and sell every vehicle in inventory at fire sale prices then the factories can continue building vehicles. Yes the company will not make revenues but it will continue to build vehicles, otherwise it’s game over and still factories and no inventory completely.
UAW I think is a scam! I think that's why the price is so expensive of these vehicles!
They thought that by raising prices on Jeep while still selling average quality vehicles that they would suddenly be Land Rover.
RIP Jeep
If the union workers go on strike, wouldn't that be counter productive? They might lose their jobs already. I would think that It would be alot easier for Stellantis to shut a plant down when the employees aren't working, like during a strike.
So Stellantis sabotages FCA because they wanted the company to go bankrupt since they couldn't just buy Jeep and Ram brand from FCA alone. Worst than what Mercedes did.
Neighbor of mine worked Chevrolet for 17years, then went to a ram Jeep Chrysler dealer. He said the Grand Wagoneer was one of the biggest POS he’s ever seen. Problem after problem, meanwhile you just paid $100k plus for this junk vehicle.
Stellantis is in a death spiral with no escape. Certainly they have too many brands, but none of them can be saved. In ten years there will be no ICE cars, and Stellantis is nowhere in the transition to electric vehicles. A UAW strike is something that Stellantis should urgently hope for, as it will reduce its costs and unsold inventories. Remember when Kodak and Fuji owned the whole photography business with their expertise in film, developing, and photographic paper? Now all of that antiquated technology is worthless. Remember Block Buster Video in the time before Netflix? This is the fate of Stellantis and most of the legacy car makers.
Stellantis sells Ram and Jeep badged vehicules on other countries which are cheaper. So, yes they might close their plants in the USA, but will keep making them for other markets. This are two of their best and most recognizabled "brands" in the world.
If I am spending 100K? I’m definitely not spending that on a Jeep! I’m going to get a Mercedes or something else in the luxury market! Jeep is NOT the luxury market!😂
I'm not buying a Jeep OR a Mercedes. I'm buying three nice used vehicles that are reliable and don't take a fortune to fix (they're out there). People waste soooo much money on new vehicles that cost way too much and no young dealer mechanic knows how to work on. Just because they have power windows and a back-up camera. I still drive my (upgraded) 1968 Ford Falcon daily with no problems. It looks like shit, drives like a school bus with the 3-speed manual and a 200 CI 6, but it turns more heads here than any Wagoneer. My wife, however, drives the 2020 Lincoln Corsair.
The real problem with electric cars is charging time, battery life and high cost - indeed the shovel is more than the dirt they are moving.
It's the upkeep too. Those new cars are way too expensive to buy and maintain.
Just looked at new cars nationwide that are 2018-2022. There are quite a few new cars that are considered new and 5-6 ears old.
This CEO is the prime example of THE PETER PRINCIPLE maxed out.
Stellantis is squandering its brand and has no new product development, no replacement, for the Charger or Challenger and the FIAT GROUP is floundering now in Europe.
To hell with dealership and especially Jeep dealerships, every last one of them are thieves. From their $225.00 an hour+ labor cost, their used cars that are sold at 300% above wholesale (for what they paid for the car) and the planned obsolescence junk new vehicles on their lots. These companies and their dealerships did this to themselves with their greed, I don't feel sorry for any of them going out of business.
I’m not seeing a lot of the $100K Jeeps but I’m still seeing them on the road.
After 2 years of taking advantage of the consumer. Marking up prices above MSRP. It's time to see discounts.
They might as well forget EV's when BYD can sell them for $10K. Even with the 100% tarrifs they still can't compete. Yes they need to go back to basics and mothball non profitable plants and sell off inventory at fire sale prices. The union is going to have to swallow the bitter pill and can forget any demands. We all need to ask why is this CEO still in command?
BYD do not export anything for $10k. Typically more expensive than a Tesla in Europe.
"BYD Atto 3 ranged from 81% to 174% higher than in China. Dolphin prices ranged from 39% to 178% higher, and Seal prices from 30% to 136% higher."
Tesla Model 3SR in Germany $43,707 - BYD Seal $48139.
Reuters April 26, 2024.
I'm making over 250k a year and I still refused to buy anything over 30k. Insurance is a scam also.
I, for one, do not care if the UAW goes on strike. They can go from the picket line to the unemployment line. Unions have out lived their usefulness.
European car manufacturers need to see this and learn. They are next
Got rid of the v8 and focused on tech and lots of features nobody needed. If I want a sunroof I need to spend 10k in options for a 1200 buck sunroof. Now I gotta pay sales tax on that extra 12k
They need to quit pushing EV's that no one wants to buy and start selling 20k vehicles. Simple but reliable.
In my country dealers do not stockpile brand new cars. Here, people go to a car dealer and order a (expensive) personalized configuration from the catalog, waiting 3-12 months for the car. If demand is low the slow down the assembly lines, so there never are brand new cars stacked at dealers as inventory. As used cars are far too expensive too and the fees for long-term rentals have heavily increased last year, the only way to get a reasonable prices car is to look for a pre-registered bargain deal. What currently looks like a good deal is to lease a Jeep Avenger for 180 € a month. I do not not know the nasty fine-print of the contract, but that is ~3000 $ fixed costs and below the cars depreciation ...