This has to be one of my favorite Dave Carrie videos for several reasons in no particular order. 1. A minor bit of cursing. 2. The discussion about getting the kids outdoors. 3. I think that's the first really good laugh I've seen from Dave. Please keep them coming. Oh yes. 4. I'm American and liking shooting the 410.
Love to make a day in the dove patch with my Browning 525. No ringing ears or splitting headache from being beaten up by a 12 or 20 ga. Kudos to the men with their .410s.
You know what Dave, a lot of sense spoken there in the last 10 minutes of that video. 100% spot on, education is key; people are condemning what we do, without any understanding of it. And you're right, BASC should step outside of their comfort zone. I go out of my way to invite people to join me, or to introduce them to rabbit pie or Venison. How people can sit and eat cage reared birds yet criticise the taking of wild game is beyond me. Best of health to you.
I agree, I've been shooting one for 30 years now. Wonderful gun and very versatile especially with screw in chokes. One of the side benefits is being able to carry a pocket load of mixed shells or a small belt that weighs almost nothing.
Thank you so much for providing me a look into a hunt I can only find in my dreams. Couldn’t agree more that our young people are being deprived of knowing what an autumn morning with a shotgun and a cherished dog is like. To know that food is not a cellophane wrapped thing in a grocery store, but a living fellow creature, deserving of respect and appreciation for their sacrifice that provides life for me. The hunter knows this truth.
Dave is absolutely right about the kids and country sports education. I was brought up in a city, had a government education, and was only one of a few hundred in our school to enjoy shooting. As long as i could remember my dad and older brother hads gun dogs and guns so i was brought up knowing only gun safety and country sports, the children of today must be educated on the country way of life. No McDonald's in the feilds. No burger king in the woods. Education is key to keeping this sport alive. Great video.
Good shooting with a .410. Have to Agree as well about kids being more involved in the countryside and shooting as well as fishing rather than the x box generation we seem to have created. Had both my boys shooting and ferreting and fishing from a very early age. Again good shooting with the 410.
Same here, my lad used to go ferreting with the guy that had taken me out as a kid, introduced me to beating as well many years ago I used to sit under a Bush after the shoot in the woods while he was roost shooting that shaped my life. My lad shot his ist pidgeon over decoys with a single Spanish folding 4.10 and his first pheasant at 6yrs old.My old man wasn't interested tho he worked hard played harder so me and my boy owe a lot to Bernard burraway proper countryman. Must have done something right at my lad is a Keeper in Scotland hes taking his old man shooting next month high pheasants not before bloody time😂🤙nice shooting with that catapult.
A great film Dave, I thoroughly enjoyed watching you shoot a .410, You made a great point about shooting within the guns limitations. It was nice to see another shoot and hear you talking to the people who run the shoot. It was also nice to see your mate shooting especially after seeing your film when you both tested a .410 on your pattern plates. Thanks Dave.
Great video, great job with the .410. I am happy to see that you enjoyed this perfect small day. Getting the youngsters interested to fieldsports should be a huge challenge for all of us, otherwise we will get big problems to our beloved sports and the antis will get win after win.
Dave, thanks for another great video and you pulled off some excellent shots on a sunny day! I too enjoy taking the .410 Superposed or Model 42 pump out a few times a year and after the first couple of shots if I just treat it like the big gun and keep it moving through the shot reasonable range birds will fall and clays will break. Just as importantly in these videos, you are an eloquent spokesman for our shooting and gun rights which are being threatened non-stop both here in the USA as well as in Great Britain. Best wishes for the Christmas Season!
Dave the unparalleled passion and your ambassador approach is remarkable, I only wish I had been exposed to shooting and the countryside at an early age! Now living in NZ from South Yorkshire I now shoot and have the best time of my life. Your videos are truly inspiring and incredible! Thank you and don’t stop posting! You deserve a knighthood 🤙
My grandfather gave me a Winchester model 42 when I was 10 years old and that is the gun I learned how to hunt birds with. I mostly hunted Blue grouse in the high mountains of Montana, but also shot many ducks with that little gun. I still have the gun and shoot it every fall hunting grouse in the mountains. Three bird limits are the norm. Although I shoot a 3-1/2 " 12 bore now foe ducks and geese the 410 bore will always be my favorite after nearly 60 yeas with it.
Great shooting as per and could agree with you more about educating the next generation. Completely right when you say all they see is what the anti’s show and tell them. These anti’s honestly don’t understand what the shooting/ fieldsports industry does for this country they are clueless and incredibly irritating. Keep up the great work Dave love watching what you do
Totally agree I'm 43, I still like talking to older people, you don't get old without learning a few things do you ?. All we have to do is listen and learn. I'm a hgv driver do you have a haluage company I'm sure I saw a artic with your name on the side.
It is nice to see you doing something like this, David. Great shooting, as usual. I look forward to seeing your pattern plate test with different loads for the 28 bore, which I hope you will also be able to showcase in the field.
Again well done Dave good film and good advice to basic and other groups. Get out and tell youngsters in schools what we do in the countryside,we create habitats, manage environments manage and,protect wildlife but also harvest our bounty.without us they won't have a countryside in the future.
That’s the best small bore 410 shoot I’ve seen in some time. I’m from the south in the USA and we have plenty of quail in and around the south eastern states. My first shotgun was a 410 by Ivey Johnson that my dad got me when I was seven. I learned how to shoot from my dad and grandfather who was LC Smith side by side shotguns. I killed my first eastern turkey with my 410 and plenty of rabbits and grey squirrels. I never got a chance to use any of my old shotguns that was handed down to me because they all got destroyed in a firearm my x father-in-law’s. I got to shoot my daddy’s side by side a few times but never got to do any quail hunting with that field grade 12 gauge LC Smith. But watching you really reminded me of the days with my 410. I wish I had my old guns still. Great shooting you did with that 410. I bet you give them birds heck with a 12 gauge out to 70 yards. Thanks for the great video and the memories you brought back to this old mind and body.
Hearts and minds are easily reached through bellies. Stalls outside supermarkets with venison sausages, wild boar pork pies, Pheasant Curry and Partridge kebabs will win any argument hands down. Get more people ready and easy access to game and they will love it.
I actually had the same gun in a 28 gauge and I shot grouse with it mostly. then actually I shot a bunch of chukars or red legged partridge, they are similar with an old spanish 410... side by side shotgun.. back in Gang ranch in british columbia.. it is amazing how much you can get out of that little 410 bore. amazing.
100% agree about BASC and you could put most shooting organisations into that mix we run a small clay shoot with around 100+ attending I've talked to both CPSA and BASC and in the 35years the shoots been running we have never once seen them so much for introducing new membership when they have trouble support what is already there
Excellent film showing a different and challenging ways of game shooting. Your debate of educating the younger generation in the pub needs to be acted on by BASC, & Country Alliance, they wouldn't need to badger MPs
I think Dave could hit anything with a pea shooter or a catapult !! Fantastic shooting .... nice to watch 👍 Would never have thought some of those birds could be took down with a .410... You live and learn ....👏
Great little shoot with that 410 Dave . Back from holiday have a great Local shoot sat couldn’t wait 80 birds keep theses videos coming love them all the best Darell 👍
Dave loved listening to you at the end feel exactly the same I always try bring new people shooting with me even if it’s just clays the more people in the sport the better
Love .410s. Got into them after a bad nerve issue with my shoulder now resolved. No kick and 100 x .410s in your pocket weighs an awful lot less than 100 x 12g. You have to be quite precise though, many younger or first timers on a moving target can get very disillusioned, try clays first. Have an old Mossberg 500 and a Win 9410 which is just fantastic and dead tight pattern. Just my opinion only, just mine, some birds you get .. have seen far too much gun, either taken at longer distances and full of shot or shorter and blown to pieces. 30 odd yards 410 and a bit of experience does the job clean. Great to see you out there with the loyal .410.
Watching this video is making me more convinced in my mind of a 410/28 o/u could be a good addition to cupboard..(might tell the wife it’s for the kids but dad needs to use it for a year or so 1st )
Fiocchi 7.5 English 7s are the best all round 410 cartridge I have found for the price. I’ve tried all others including the new gamebore which aren’t bad but don’t pattern as well as fiocchi. Also game bore need to bring it out in a 7 to give a fuller pattern, fiocchi have an extra 60 pellets in their 19 gm load which gives a better pattern, after all we are only shooting 35 yards max so a 6 is overkill at that range. I no you’re sponsored by gamebore which ties your hands a bit but give some a go, you only have to watch what most 410 shooters on RUclips use to see which is best. Keep up the good work, and stay safe in this strange time.
For the first 30 years of my life I shot shot Skeet, Trap and field with a 12 gauge, pumps, auto, and over unders. The next 30 years I put the 12 on hold and used various 20 gauge guns for all my shooting. Then for 15 years the 28 over/under was my constant companion for all shooting. The last ten years has been devoted to only shooting the 410 for all compition and field use. The 410 is the most expensive to shoot if you only use commercial ammuntion. I reload all my shotgun ammo and and now the 410 is the least expensive, with you enjoy the challenge of reloading. The new TSS shot opens and new world for the 410. I only regret that this is so late in my life.
Just came across this video Dave very good to watch I am from Yorkshire and looking to get into shooting starting off with the beating and picking up thanks
@@woodsman2433 Fred Dibna eh.. Im glad people remember him from a time far apart from now. Hard as nails. Balls of steel. Proper grafting man no heirs and graces. Dident need em he knew how good he was. A childhood hero of mine and im a southerner. Kids nowdays just dont understand what being a man is.
I recently purchased a 28 bore because I realize that I don't kill cleanly with a .410. Almost as light, and light recoiling, and I'm not blowing feathers from birds that continue flying.
With all due respect. The 28 is a better option. The 7/8 Oz is a killer in the right hands. Here in the USA guys frequently kill pheasant cleanly. Know your gun, be sporting. Watched so many 12 bore 1.25 Oz hunters miss twice! Sportsmanship gentlemen, even if we do not own an Estate! 😆👍🏻
I own tgree 28ga guns, and 2 .410s and for pheadant and grouse i still prefer my silver pigeon.410 shooting 9/16 oz #8.5 tungsten that i load. It crushes ducks, geese, turkeys, pheasants and grouse out to a good honest 45-50yards with no issues. When using tss it outperforms a 20ga in every aspect, including pellet count.
At least in the US (I can't speak for other parts of the world) .410 ammo is a good bit more expensive than 12 or 20 gauge. I started my son off with lite 20 gauge loads.
Right you are. 28 for beginners is far better than the .410 for the starter. The .410 in the hands of a real shooter can be quite a wonderful experience.
Having just done a day of trap shooting with a 12GA, a 28GA, and a .410 I can agree that the .410 definitely feels like playing the game on hard mode. That tight pattern leaves very little room for error.
Dave, Somebody should have told you .410 ammunition is more expensive than most other calibres unless you home load. In normal loads .410 up to £700 a 1000….now compare that to 12 bore at around £400/1000 hardly a cheap alternative! It is a great deal of fun
Hey Dave, great video and good shooting. Just wondered since your trying out 410. Would you consider doing a video with a side by side, would be Great to watch. Also thanks for entertaining me as always also very good points at the end there.
My wife and I enjoy your presentations. In a small way, we live vicariously through your shooting experiences. Dave, we believe that you are right on target(no pun intended) when you advocate for education in the schools especially in the "mainstream" schools. Are there opportunities for shooting clubs or naturalist clubs for students during after school hours or on weekends? (We are Yanks so we are somewhat unfamiliar with the educational system in Great Britain.)Possibly, a consortium of affluent guns could fund a club or clubs for students, boys and girls. Do not neglect the girls. They become adult women and mothers who not only yield influence in the homes and the community but very importantly in the voting booths. Lastly, ( as I am running off), How about vocational programs sponsored by game preserves as an elective academic and/or recreational sports program for students? Just a few thoughts! Keep sharing your voice and your presence to the sport and the countryside. Best regards, Frank Vacirca
Thanks Frank!! your support is much appreciated, i do hope you continue to enjoy the films and i do hope we manage to stave off the anti shooting brigade for many years to come. Regards Dave Carrie
I just traded my russian sks for a nice 410. Iga backpacker with a 12 inch barrel. Its a very small 410 chambered in 3inch magnum. Im using 3 inch magnums 5 shot.
Great video. This may be a rude question to ask, but could someone give a ballpark figure as to what these affordable days cost per gun? My daughter and I are new to shooting and the cost of a 150-200 bird driven pheasant shoot is a little out of our range currently. This sounds like it's absolutely ideal for people like us who at this stage aren't able to spend £1000+ per gun. Even more so as we're in neighbouring Yorkshire so this is close by.
Hi Tom - at the end of the film there are contact details for affordable days i think the cost is in the region of £400 but you are best speaking to Richard Gray
Typical Yorkshire-man 3 days for nowt, cheeky bugger. Great video though, love the little .410, but like you say know the guns limits and most of all know your own. Just one more comment, the game fares are too expensive for many to attend, your Whippet and Lurcher men with their families can't afford those prices. The thing is all outdoor sport enthusiasts need to unite and work together forming a more united front. your comment of the old gamekeepers is a good one though and many an old poacher could tell a story or too as well, I know those were the kind of books I loved to read as a kid. There is still a belief that only toffs Hunt and Shoot and the working class are excluded, education is vital.
Fantastic videos as usual, I was wondering if you can do an informative video on the 28 caliber guns, and what your opinion is towards using them for game shooting ?
You made some Very good points Dave at the end of this film, 👍. BASC no use preaching to the converted 🤔. I don’t game shoot as I haven’t got the pockets for it. But I have always loved the countryside and wildlife in it. I have been beating for 30+yrs and my kids have been raised on game, and prefer pheasant to chicken as it has more taste and texture . Both my boys no longer come on shoots with me now, but they always spread the word to none shooting people the benefit of game shooting. Theirs not many young people in the beating line these days , beater’s are getting older each year with no young people to take their place, 🤔 honestly. I look along beat line some days and it looks like the cast of 😳 The Living Dead 😳😳. Needs some publicity drive by shooting organisations to get people interested in the countryside or shooting will go the way off hunting.☹️
What's up with the sound of those .410 is that just editing or why does it sound so quiet? Like I know it's no 12ga but every .410 round I've ever shot still sounds like a gun lol
Get into the schools! I would do that for a jobs I’m in there now but not for that reason schools would have it if sold right and the family would love it . If done correct
David is right. I shoot an AYA 28 #4 boxlock. It’s a peach of a gun. It kills cleanly out to 35 yards. After that it’s marginal. Most guns using 12 g are not that good at 35/40 yards either. Yes you have to be very accurate with small bores. Sloppy shooting fails.
As a younger guy from America the best part was you gentlemen talking about teaching the youth
Thankyou Jacob
The blokes in the UK have a lot going for their hunting culture.
You're a star Dave, you should be running this country instead of the cretins we have now.
i agree Kieth😂
The Afghans are coming now gets better don’t it
This has to be one of my favorite Dave Carrie videos for several reasons in no particular order. 1. A minor bit of cursing. 2. The discussion about getting the kids outdoors. 3. I think that's the first really good laugh I've seen from Dave. Please keep them coming. Oh yes. 4. I'm American and liking shooting the 410.
Thanks Dan - glad you are enjoying the films much more to come yet
Love to make a day in the dove patch with my Browning 525. No ringing ears or splitting headache from being beaten up by a 12 or 20 ga. Kudos to the men with their .410s.
Dave Carrie you are real treasure as a Countryman and open minded game shot!
i try my best
You know what Dave, a lot of sense spoken there in the last 10 minutes of that video.
100% spot on, education is key; people are condemning what we do, without any understanding of it. And you're right, BASC should step outside of their comfort zone.
I go out of my way to invite people to join me, or to introduce them to rabbit pie or Venison.
How people can sit and eat cage reared birds yet criticise the taking of wild game is beyond me.
Best of health to you.
I love my Mossberg 500 .410 pump. Light, easy to operate, and so versatile. 5 + 1.
I agree, I've been shooting one for 30 years now. Wonderful gun and very versatile especially with screw in chokes.
One of the side benefits is being able to carry a pocket load of mixed shells or a small belt that weighs almost nothing.
Same with my Henry Model X .410 lever-action and it has attachment points for some modern accessories as well.
Great video! Guns with friends hunting together is always a great day.
Absolutely fabulous little video Mr Carrie and I couldn't agree more
thankyou
Thank you Mr Carrie for showing the world that the.410 is a great gun when used within it’s limits !!!! Great shooting and video !!!
great comment
Thank you so much for providing me a look into a hunt I can only find in my dreams. Couldn’t agree more that our young people are being deprived of knowing what an autumn morning with a shotgun and a cherished dog is like. To know that food is not a cellophane wrapped thing in a grocery store, but a living fellow creature, deserving of respect and appreciation for their sacrifice that provides life for me. The hunter knows this truth.
Donald you are so right!! thankyou for your valuable input
David, you could use a pea shooter and still bring em down.😂 Love your vids.
Dave is absolutely right about the kids and country sports education. I was brought up in a city, had a government education, and was only one of a few hundred in our school to enjoy shooting. As long as i could remember my dad and older brother hads gun dogs and guns so i was brought up knowing only gun safety and country sports, the children of today must be educated on the country way of life. No McDonald's in the feilds.
No burger king in the woods.
Education is key to keeping this sport alive.
Great video.
Absolutely spot on Michael
Nice to see that you persuaded David to try a 410 day, and that in the right cercumstancs they are perfectly Suitable to shoot game.
i agree horses for courses
Good shooting with a .410. Have to Agree as well about kids being more involved in the countryside and shooting as well as fishing rather than the x box generation we seem to have created. Had both my boys shooting and ferreting and fishing from a very early age. Again good shooting with the 410.
thanks for your valuable input - now i know i am getting there👌😃
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Same here, my lad used to go ferreting with the guy that had taken me out as a kid, introduced me to beating as well many years ago I used to sit under a Bush after the shoot in the woods while he was roost shooting that shaped my life. My lad shot his ist pidgeon over decoys with a single Spanish folding 4.10 and his first pheasant at 6yrs old.My old man wasn't interested tho he worked hard played harder so me and my boy owe a lot to Bernard burraway proper countryman. Must have done something right at my lad is a Keeper in Scotland hes taking his old man shooting next month high pheasants not before bloody time😂🤙nice shooting with that catapult.
A great film Dave, I thoroughly enjoyed watching you shoot a .410, You made a great point about shooting within the guns limitations. It was nice to see another shoot and hear you talking to the people who run the shoot. It was also nice to see your mate shooting especially after seeing your film when you both tested a .410 on your pattern plates. Thanks Dave.
thanks Adrien, your input is appreciated
Great video, great job with the .410. I am happy to see that you enjoyed this perfect small day. Getting the youngsters interested to fieldsports should be a huge challenge for all of us, otherwise we will get big problems to our beloved sports and the antis will get win after win.
we all have to work on this
Good video, totally agree about BASC , outside of shooting world no ones ever heard of them!
good point and quite true
Dave, thanks for another great video and you pulled off some excellent shots on a sunny day! I too enjoy taking the .410 Superposed or Model 42 pump out a few times a year and after the first couple of shots if I just treat it like the big gun and keep it moving through the shot reasonable range birds will fall and clays will break. Just as importantly in these videos, you are an eloquent spokesman for our shooting and gun rights which are being threatened non-stop both here in the USA as well as in Great Britain. Best wishes for the Christmas Season!
i wouldn't say eloquent but i try to get the point across, thanks for your input most appreciated
Hit the nail on the head there. Couldn't agree more. Great ideas.
thanks Shaun
Dave the unparalleled passion and your ambassador approach is remarkable, I only wish I had been exposed to shooting and the countryside at an early age! Now living in NZ from South Yorkshire I now shoot and have the best time of my life. Your videos are truly inspiring and incredible! Thank you and don’t stop posting! You deserve a knighthood 🤙
Thankyou for your kind comments Andrew! they are much appreciated
My grandfather gave me a Winchester model 42 when I was 10 years old and that is the gun I learned how to hunt birds with. I mostly hunted Blue grouse in the high mountains of Montana, but also shot many ducks with that little gun. I still have the gun and shoot it every fall hunting grouse in the mountains. Three bird limits are the norm. Although I shoot a 3-1/2 " 12 bore now foe ducks and geese the 410 bore will always be my favorite after nearly 60 yeas with it.
great tale of the little gun and its place in the countryside, thankyou
Great shooting as per and could agree with you more about educating the next generation. Completely right when you say all they see is what the anti’s show and tell them. These anti’s honestly don’t understand what the shooting/ fieldsports industry does for this country they are clueless and incredibly irritating. Keep up the great work Dave love watching what you do
thanks Ryan
Totally agree I'm 43, I still like talking to older people, you don't get old without learning a few things do you ?. All we have to do is listen and learn. I'm a hgv driver do you have a haluage company I'm sure I saw a artic with your name on the side.
thanks for the comments, you are right you never stop learning.👌
The World is sorted if yer listen tae Dave,,,,,yer the man that knows it all.
Yea that’s me thanks
@@DaveCarrieShooting Yer welcome mucker.
It is nice to see you doing something like this, David. Great shooting, as usual. I look forward to seeing your pattern plate test with different loads for the 28 bore, which I hope you will also be able to showcase in the field.
all in the pipeline
What a great shooting guys .. I agree with that conversation Dave, well done
thanks Ali
Again well done Dave good film and good advice to basic and other groups. Get out and tell youngsters in schools what we do in the countryside,we create habitats, manage environments manage and,protect wildlife but also harvest our bounty.without us they won't have a countryside in the future.
thanks Ronald just about explains it
That’s the best small bore 410 shoot I’ve seen in some time. I’m from the south in the USA and we have plenty of quail in and around the south eastern states. My first shotgun was a 410 by Ivey Johnson that my dad got me when I was seven. I learned how to shoot from my dad and grandfather who was LC Smith side by side shotguns. I killed my first eastern turkey with my 410 and plenty of rabbits and grey squirrels. I never got a chance to use any of my old shotguns that was handed down to me because they all got destroyed in a firearm my x father-in-law’s. I got to shoot my daddy’s side by side a few times but never got to do any quail hunting with that field grade 12 gauge LC Smith. But watching you really reminded me of the days with my 410. I wish I had my old guns still. Great shooting you did with that 410. I bet you give them birds heck with a 12 gauge out to 70 yards. Thanks for the great video and the memories you brought back to this old mind and body.
Thanks John it was wonderful to hear a bit of your family history
Excellent Dave, it was interesting seeing you out with another shotgun. You certainly met the challange
thanks Mike
Hearts and minds are easily reached through bellies. Stalls outside supermarkets with venison sausages, wild boar pork pies, Pheasant Curry and Partridge kebabs will win any argument hands down. Get more people ready and easy access to game and they will love it.
very good comment Mark !! thankyou
I actually had the same gun in a 28 gauge and I shot grouse with it mostly. then actually I shot a bunch of chukars or red legged partridge, they are similar with an old spanish 410... side by side shotgun.. back in Gang ranch in british columbia.. it is amazing how much you can get out of that little 410 bore.
amazing.
thanks i enjoyed shooting with it👌
100% agree about BASC and you could put most shooting organisations into that mix we run a small clay shoot with around 100+ attending I've talked to both CPSA and BASC and in the 35years the shoots been running we have never once seen them so much for introducing new membership when they have trouble support what is already there
strange how we have not progressed at all within the wider community, thanks for your valuable input
very nice film and very good shooting with the 410. Beautiful gun
thankyou Steffen
Excellent film showing a different and challenging ways of game shooting. Your debate of educating the younger generation in the pub needs to be acted on by BASC, & Country Alliance, they wouldn't need to badger MPs
Andrew evans. Agreed mate.
well said Andrew
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I think Dave could hit anything with a pea shooter or a catapult !!
Fantastic shooting .... nice to watch 👍
Would never have thought some of those birds could be took down with a .410...
You live and learn ....👏
thanks for the kind words Carl
Great little shoot with that 410 Dave . Back from holiday have a great Local shoot sat couldn’t wait 80 birds keep theses videos coming love them all the best Darell 👍
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Dave loved listening to you at the end feel exactly the same I always try bring new people shooting with me even if it’s just clays the more people in the sport the better
Well spoken Dave I agree with everything you said bravo.
thanks kieth
Love .410s. Got into them after a bad nerve issue with my shoulder now resolved. No kick and 100 x .410s in your pocket weighs an awful lot less than 100 x 12g. You have to be quite precise though, many younger or first timers on a moving target can get very disillusioned, try clays first. Have an old Mossberg 500 and a Win 9410 which is just fantastic and dead tight pattern. Just my opinion only, just mine, some birds you get .. have seen far too much gun, either taken at longer distances and full of shot or shorter and blown to pieces. 30 odd yards 410 and a bit of experience does the job clean. Great to see you out there with the loyal .410.
A great advocate for the countryside. Thank you Dave!
Cheers Kelly
Love the conversation at the end of the Vid-!- Agree. . .
thanks
Dave Carrie on a shoot with a .410 " Well I never" ! Never thought I would see the day...
Thanks for the vote of no confidence Giles !! its only fair we give every enthusiast a fair hearing, very strange to me though 😉
Watching this video is making me more convinced in my mind of a 410/28 o/u could be a good addition to cupboard..(might tell the wife it’s for the kids but dad needs to use it for a year or so 1st )
What an absolutely great video.
Thanks Grendel - much more to come
Fiocchi 7.5 English 7s are the best all round 410 cartridge I have found for the price. I’ve tried all others including the new gamebore which aren’t bad but don’t pattern as well as fiocchi. Also game bore need to bring it out in a 7 to give a fuller pattern, fiocchi have an extra 60 pellets in their 19 gm load which gives a better pattern, after all we are only shooting 35 yards max so a 6 is overkill at that range. I no you’re sponsored by gamebore which ties your hands a bit but give some a go, you only have to watch what most 410 shooters on RUclips use to see which is best. Keep up the good work, and stay safe in this strange time.
thanks Triumph for your kind words and ditto stay safe👍
For the first 30 years of my life I shot shot Skeet, Trap and field with a 12 gauge, pumps, auto, and over unders. The next 30 years I put the 12 on hold and used various 20 gauge guns for all my shooting. Then for 15 years the 28 over/under was my constant companion for all shooting. The last ten years has been devoted to only shooting the 410 for all compition and field use. The 410 is the most expensive to shoot if you only use commercial ammuntion. I reload all my shotgun ammo and and now the 410 is the least expensive, with you enjoy the challenge of reloading. The new TSS shot opens and new world for the 410. I only regret that this is so late in my life.
Thanks Leo great advice
Just came across this video Dave very good to watch I am from Yorkshire and looking to get into shooting starting off with the beating and picking up thanks
glad you enjoyed the film
410 kills in the right hands
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Fantastic yet again
Fantastic yet again
Smashing film Mr Carrie 👍
thanks Martyn
Right enough lad !
Amazing production on this video, bravo!
thank you for your kind words
Dave Carrie the Fred Dibnah of shooting
well said sir
thanks - don't know whether that's a compliment or what? 😂
@@DaveCarrieShooting you talk straight and talk alot of sense . yes Dave it was a compliment sorry
@@woodsman2433 compliment accepted 😊 - i hope you enjoy the rest of our films
@@woodsman2433 Fred Dibna eh.. Im glad people remember him from a time far apart from now. Hard as nails. Balls of steel. Proper grafting man no heirs and graces. Dident need em he knew how good he was. A childhood hero of mine and im a southerner. Kids nowdays just dont understand what being a man is.
What a great video.. Thanks Dave.
you are welcome Mike
I'd do better with the 28 bore ,410 is for the experts I'm in for a clean kill and the fun of the shoot love this video Dave
I recently purchased a 28 bore because I realize that I don't kill cleanly with a .410. Almost as light, and light recoiling, and I'm not blowing feathers from birds that continue flying.
With all due respect. The 28 is a better option.
The 7/8 Oz is a killer in the right hands.
Here in the USA guys frequently kill pheasant cleanly.
Know your gun, be sporting.
Watched so many 12 bore 1.25 Oz hunters miss twice!
Sportsmanship gentlemen, even if we do not own an Estate!
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thanks for your valued input James! much appreciated
I own tgree 28ga guns, and 2 .410s and for pheadant and grouse i still prefer my silver pigeon.410 shooting 9/16 oz #8.5 tungsten that i load. It crushes ducks, geese, turkeys, pheasants and grouse out to a good honest 45-50yards with no issues. When using tss it outperforms a 20ga in every aspect, including pellet count.
Great video. Yes it is 4/10 but if it's the only way for the working man to get on a shoot good luck to them. Regards Colin
thanks Colin
Absolutly spot on with comments about government and antis kids need to learn about countryside
thanks Kenneth
At least in the US (I can't speak for other parts of the world) .410 ammo is a good bit more expensive than 12 or 20 gauge. I started my son off with lite 20 gauge loads.
Epic video Mr Carrie! Really enjoyed it. Just subscribed.
Thanks Dom, hope you enjoy the rest of them
Here, here.
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Easy on the shoulder...the .410 was my 1st shotgun.....an old Stevens pump..still have it
great little gun
Nice hunter....👍
Thanks 👍
Right you are. 28 for beginners is far better than the .410 for the starter. The .410 in the hands of a real shooter can be quite a wonderful experience.
Having just done a day of trap shooting with a 12GA, a 28GA, and a .410 I can agree that the .410 definitely feels like playing the game on hard mode. That tight pattern leaves very little room for error.
Dave, Somebody should have told you .410 ammunition is more expensive than most other calibres unless you home load. In normal loads .410 up to £700 a 1000….now compare that to 12 bore at around £400/1000 hardly a cheap alternative! It is a great deal of fun
What happened to the first video Dave? Regards Tony Ashton
music problem now sorted
How about doing a blackpowder day.
anything for you 👍
mark r pa usa please research that roy rogers the American cowboy movie and singing star used the 410 for trap and skeet shooting
Hey Dave, great video and good shooting. Just wondered since your trying out 410. Would you consider doing a video with a side by side, would be Great to watch. Also thanks for entertaining me as always also very good points at the end there.
thanks for the nice comments i have a sxs planned next season
Very Good Advise from rhe Chats at 16.00 onwards! Survival Skills !
thanks
Side-by-sides look and feel more elegant than 410 over and unders
My wife and I enjoy your presentations. In a small way, we live vicariously through your shooting experiences. Dave, we believe that you are right on target(no pun intended) when you advocate for education in the schools especially in the "mainstream" schools. Are there opportunities for shooting clubs or naturalist clubs for students during after school hours or on weekends? (We are Yanks so we are somewhat unfamiliar with the educational system in Great Britain.)Possibly, a consortium of affluent guns could fund a club or clubs for students, boys and girls. Do not neglect the girls. They become adult women and mothers who not only yield influence in the homes and the community but very importantly in the voting booths. Lastly, ( as I am running off), How about vocational programs sponsored by game preserves as an elective academic and/or recreational sports program for students? Just a few thoughts! Keep sharing your voice and your presence to the sport and the countryside. Best regards, Frank Vacirca
Thanks Frank!! your support is much appreciated, i do hope you continue to enjoy the films and i do hope we manage to stave off the anti shooting brigade for many years to come.
Regards
Dave Carrie
I load #8.5 tungsten super shot in my .410. Its an animal on geese, ducks, pheasants, grouse, and turkey. Id say it rivals 12ga shooting #2steel
Another smashing shoot Dave 👍
thanks
410 is just sooo yumie by it self. than consider that you can silence it like 22lr but shotgun...... orgasmic.
I just traded my russian sks for a nice 410. Iga backpacker with a 12 inch barrel. Its a very small 410 chambered in 3inch magnum. Im using 3 inch magnums 5 shot.
Unusual gun
Great video. This may be a rude question to ask, but could someone give a ballpark figure as to what these affordable days cost per gun? My daughter and I are new to shooting and the cost of a 150-200 bird driven pheasant shoot is a little out of our range currently. This sounds like it's absolutely ideal for people like us who at this stage aren't able to spend £1000+ per gun. Even more so as we're in neighbouring Yorkshire so this is close by.
Hi Tom - at the end of the film there are contact details for affordable days i think the cost is in the region of £400 but you are best speaking to Richard Gray
@@DaveCarrieShooting Thanks so much for your reply.
Typical Yorkshire-man 3 days for nowt, cheeky bugger. Great video though, love the little .410, but like you say know the guns limits and most of all know your own. Just one more comment, the game fares are too expensive for many to attend, your Whippet and Lurcher men with their families can't afford those prices. The thing is all outdoor sport enthusiasts need to unite and work together forming a more united front. your comment of the old gamekeepers is a good one though and many an old poacher could tell a story or too as well, I know those were the kind of books I loved to read as a kid. There is still a belief that only toffs Hunt and Shoot and the working class are excluded, education
is vital.
very well put sir and thanks for your input
They will be good birds to eat as they won't be shredded like most 12bores firing number 4s do to them
good point if they are shooting low birds
@@DaveCarrieShooting it happens to the high ones.
Looks like you could also put some beef on the table. Slug??
Thanks John
I appreciate your comments although derogatory at least you didn’t call me a fat cunt👍
@@DaveCarrieShooting Hey, not meant derogatory....just that you’re shooting hard-to-hit birds, when there’s a big cow right there...humor??
@@johnstewart8849 apologies John sounded like something totally different 👍
Is this at Stubbs’s at Calecethorpe?
Might the .410 be easier on the shoulder? Having had Thoracic surgery I am unable to take on 12 bore shooting.
i agree the 410 is easy on the shoulder but there is little difference in the 410 and the 28bore
Fantastic videos as usual, I was wondering if you can do an informative video on the 28 caliber guns, and what your opinion is towards using them for game shooting ?
Things are planned for the 28bore
Good video Dave 👍
thanks
You made some Very good points Dave at the end of this film, 👍. BASC no use preaching to the converted 🤔. I don’t game shoot as I haven’t got the pockets for it. But I have always loved the countryside and wildlife in it. I have been beating for 30+yrs and my kids have been raised on game, and prefer pheasant to chicken as it has more taste and texture . Both my boys no longer come on shoots with me now, but they always spread the word to none shooting people the benefit of game shooting. Theirs not many young people in the beating line these days , beater’s are getting older each year with no young people to take their place, 🤔 honestly. I look along beat line some days and it looks like the cast of 😳 The Living Dead 😳😳. Needs some publicity drive by shooting organisations to get people interested in the countryside or shooting will go the way off hunting.☹️
Bang right Shaun - you could not have described the state of the shooting world any better 👍
What's up with the sound of those .410 is that just editing or why does it sound so quiet? Like I know it's no 12ga but every .410 round I've ever shot still sounds like a gun lol
don't know i thought they were very poppy
Get into the schools! I would do that for a jobs I’m in there now but not for that reason schools would have it if sold right and the family would love it . If done correct
i agree Chris - kids are missing so much in life now by being so disconnected from the countryside
I bet the shoulder loved it more than anyone
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where is the 20bore pattern testing ?
coming soon
David is right. I shoot an AYA 28 #4 boxlock. It’s a peach of a gun. It kills cleanly out to 35 yards. After that it’s marginal. Most guns using 12 g are not that good at 35/40 yards either. Yes you have to be very accurate with small bores. Sloppy shooting fails.
Kids that hunt & fish don't deal or steal
Amazing
What is your shotgun?
Browning 525 grade one 410
71 cm ou 76 cm
Do you ever get shooters turning up inappropriately attired? Such as a bloke wearing a full ex-army DPM jacket and that kind of thing?
now and again you will get inexperienced guests turning up in jeans and trainers😂
@@DaveCarrieShooting So do you send them home or are they still allowed on the shoot?
is this made in italy?
Christ Ghazal - filmed in England
@@DaveCarrieShootingthank you
Come to Lathkill dale Derbyshire with your 410 .
Why ??
Cute outfits lol
love em
Nice video 👍
I need those socks.
Tss shot has changed the game a .410 is now a 50yrd gun
very likely
"Affordability"....cartridges same price and even more expensive than 12g😉....great shooting though 😉