I've been hunting. I've got a painting going back to 1215 in China with carp in a bowl... and outdoor ponds tended in 1004 in German tapestries But I bet there's older. Oh also Egyptians and Roman's had fountains with fish...so I'd count that too
23000 BCE in the cave art at the Abri du Poisson Cave, has a full-size depiction of a male salmon.. that is much further back than even Egypt. And is perhaps the oldest known art of any fish.
I’m thinking that old time film clip of eels/carp/frogs jumbled up was temporarily set up to capture the image and not a long term thing. This was very interesting! Love old footage, pics and backstories! Thanks Alex! Also I don’t mind your face one bit! 😁☮❤🐠🦐🪴
Wow I didn't know about the European domestic carp 😧 they looked so pretty with those highly reflective large scales. Do they still exist in a pure form? Or are only hybrids left? Now I have to watch your other video to find out 😂
That was really cool. I loved seeing those and learning about what they were keeping. I had never heard of that fish raised by priest. Wonderful presentation. Take Care and Stay Safe.
I love stuff like this. Never gut the chance to connect with my grandfather over aquariums but apparently he was breeding angels in the 50s and 60s. But it makes sense seeing that people have had an interest in these hobbies since time and memorial.
Loved this video! Had no idea that eels were kept at that time. Those mirror carp were just like one of the early Japanese carp varieties. Thank you so much for your research efforts. 👏😁
Hello Alex, just wanted your opinion on something. I have around 8 red and yellow shrimps combined all females and I have 1 male amano shrimp in my 5 gallon tank. The tank is only 4 months old and I put the shrimps around 2.5 months back. Now the tank is filled with baby shrimps most look like amano and some have the red pigment. Is it possible to crossbreed amano and cheery shrimps ??! I thought you need sea water for amano shrimps to grow
Awesome stuff Alex! Loved that old footage! I caught a version of the Mirror Carp here it a natural waterway, it got off just before I could land it. it was huge. Might have a video of it.
Oh wow. I have heard from several Aussies now, you guys must have gone buck wild, planting them all over ( since their native range is only a few rivers)
Thank you for sharing this. History is fascinating and we must always remember not to overly harshly judge it. We grow and learn and I feel its always important to understand were we where in comparison to where we are now.
@@Fishtory I saw another comment about the earliest art of a fish.. my comment got hidden. The earliest known art of a fish is from 23,0000 BCE and is located at Abri du Poisson Cave. It is full relief carving of a mature male salmon.
@laattardo well I think that's awesome and thank you for mentioning it. But specifically we are looking for fish kept as pets or lifestock... so an image with a man made pond or tub/basket. It's debatable whether the Aboriginal People of Australia may have art dating back 43,000 years. ( just of fish in general)... however most the art is maintained and touched up by the local tribes to this day, making dating very tricky . However we do know that there were fish ladders and pools that sorted fish by size in several Australian rivers, now underwater or dried up.
@Fishtory thanks for the clarification about the art. To think people were purposefully keeping fish that long ago is mind-blowing 🤯 I mean, if they were sorting them and such, it sounds like an early fish farrm.
Have they been there for like a century? Because most in the USA Were released by the 1920s and not much since on any public land. But from 1878- to 1922 they stocked millions to "eat algae" in slow moving rivers and or lakes across the USA.
I actually really appreciate how simple your editing and clips are. I know it doesn't matter what I think because I have old people taste, but what a better video for me to bring that up on than this one?! But you're a real dude, and a cool dude, you'll make good use of an editing program when you get one. Thanks for the video/s! 👍
I learned this once upon a time and no one believes me now so i gave up on it. Not that they won't argue with you either way but THANKS.
I love archival film! Now Alex, can you find the earliest art piece depicting pet fish??
I've been hunting. I've got a painting going back to 1215 in China with carp in a bowl... and outdoor ponds tended in 1004 in German tapestries
But I bet there's older. Oh also Egyptians and Roman's had fountains with fish...so I'd count that too
23000 BCE in the cave art at the Abri du Poisson Cave, has a full-size depiction of a male salmon.. that is much further back than even Egypt. And is perhaps the oldest known art of any fish.
I think I've seen depictions of ancient Romans keeping ornamental fish in stone ponds. But idk if it was authentic or replica, though...
You're a natural at presentations man. You keep us interested 🤩
Why thank you kindly
I usually watch your videos a couple times. They get me through the day. Keep up the good work my friend.
Thanks friend
I’m thinking that old time film clip of eels/carp/frogs jumbled up was temporarily set up to capture the image and not a long term thing. This was very interesting! Love old footage, pics and backstories! Thanks Alex! Also I don’t mind your face one bit! 😁☮❤🐠🦐🪴
Aww thanks... and yes, it was a temporary thing that the brothers asked an aquarist to make....pile all his fish into one tank, basically
I see Pike, Tench, European Eel, Carp and what looks like a large Bream, maybe? I don’t think any of the black bass species are native to Europe
This is why I love this channel 👍
Thank you
Interesting. 1895. The not so good old days 🙄
Something about this movie to me feels very fishy
Wow I didn't know about the European domestic carp 😧 they looked so pretty with those highly reflective large scales. Do they still exist in a pure form? Or are only hybrids left?
Now I have to watch your other video to find out 😂
Still exist... hard to find as "pure". Leather carp are more common...which have no scales ( Ideally).
Thank you, Alex! Amazing!
That was really cool. I loved seeing those and learning about what they were keeping. I had never heard of that fish raised by priest. Wonderful presentation. Take Care and Stay Safe.
Glad you enjoyed it. Good to see you, friend
I love stuff like this. Never gut the chance to connect with my grandfather over aquariums but apparently he was breeding angels in the 50s and 60s. But it makes sense seeing that people have had an interest in these hobbies since time and memorial.
Totally! Same here with my grand father ( all grandparents died when I was a teen to 22 year old)..
Loved this video! Had no idea that eels were kept at that time. Those mirror carp were just like one of the early Japanese carp varieties. Thank you so much for your research efforts. 👏😁
You bet!
Looks like Tench and Long finned eel.
Some of us enjoy seeing your face 😁
Thanks
I do too 😊
🔥🔥🔥🔥 great content
Hello Alex, just wanted your opinion on something.
I have around 8 red and yellow shrimps combined all females and I have 1 male amano shrimp in my 5 gallon tank. The tank is only 4 months old and I put the shrimps around 2.5 months back. Now the tank is filled with baby shrimps most look like amano and some have the red pigment.
Is it possible to crossbreed amano and cheery shrimps ??! I thought you need sea water for amano shrimps to grow
No they won't cross, but if Reds and yellows cross, they may turn out clear ones and some that look almost identical to amanos
Thank you ✨️
Awesome stuff Alex! Loved that old footage! I caught a version of the Mirror Carp here it a natural waterway, it got off just before I could land it. it was huge. Might have a video of it.
Oh wow. I have heard from several Aussies now, you guys must have gone buck wild, planting them all over ( since their native range is only a few rivers)
@@Fishtory before my time! People did lots of silly things like introducing Kane Toads and much more.
Really interesting Alex. Thanks!
Glad you liked it! Glad anyone came by and saw it:) cheers
Yay a new video 😊 I'm going to save it until I'm home with a tea and in front of my tanks ❤
Perfect! Thank you
Thank you for sharing this. History is fascinating and we must always remember not to overly harshly judge it. We grow and learn and I feel its always important to understand were we where in comparison to where we are now.
100% It's easy to Rag on the past with all our hindsight
@@Fishtory
I saw another comment about the earliest art of a fish.. my comment got hidden. The earliest known art of a fish is from 23,0000 BCE and is located at Abri du Poisson Cave. It is full relief carving of a mature male salmon.
@laattardo well I think that's awesome and thank you for mentioning it. But specifically we are looking for fish kept as pets or lifestock... so an image with a man made pond or tub/basket.
It's debatable whether the Aboriginal People of Australia may have art dating back 43,000 years. ( just of fish in general)... however most the art is maintained and touched up by the local tribes to this day, making dating very tricky . However we do know that there were fish ladders and pools that sorted fish by size in several Australian rivers, now underwater or dried up.
@Fishtory thanks for the clarification about the art. To think people were purposefully keeping fish that long ago is mind-blowing 🤯 I mean, if they were sorting them and such, it sounds like an early fish farrm.
Pedantic, I learned a new word today! Thank you!
Auspicious!
🤣🤣🤣 I was eating breakfast and almost choked, then had to rewind to make sure my brain was not just filling in the 'blanks'! I do love that word.
Love those old fish films...
We have mirror carp in our Murray river system.
Have they been there for like a century? Because most in the USA Were released by the 1920s and not much since on any public land. But from 1878- to 1922 they stocked millions to "eat algae" in slow moving rivers and or lakes across the USA.
@Fishtory I'm not sure but I think since the 1950's
Cool interesting training day
Video died at the end….
Are you doing a live stream tonight?
Probably tomorrow... but maybe I'll fit an extra one in if I'm up to it
I actually really appreciate how simple your editing and clips are. I know it doesn't matter what I think because I have old people taste, but what a better video for me to bring that up on than this one?! But you're a real dude, and a cool dude, you'll make good use of an editing program when you get one. Thanks for the video/s! 👍
Why thank you! I appreciate your input, and you being a part of the community. Thanks again!