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Free Water Pressure! No Pump Needed! Using Gravity to Pressurize Water.
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- Опубликовано: 23 июн 2020
- I have an idea to use a spring above the house to provide some water pressure. May use for watering the garden, or even supplying the house water pressure in the future.
That's great. I'm in the Ozarks of Southern Missouri and have a big holler behind me. There is a spring that oozes out of the ground and makes a lil creek that runs into a bigger creek at the bottom. I was kinda thinkin I could dam it up a lil bit and kinda make a lil resevoir midway down the hill, and then do what you did here with the pipes. I've been wanting to build a small hunting cabin down at the bottom of the holler. I could have running water in it for washing and such.
You did a great job and it makes me curious bout how much pressure I could get!
That's awesome. Pretty cool you can do this just using gravity! It was actually one of the things i was interested in about this property when we looked at it. It will be a little less than 1/2 PSI per foot of elevation. A small limiting factor is friction on the pipes, but that's probably negligable as long as you are using at least 3/4 or 1' pipe. I was talking to a friend the other day who said he grew up with this type of water system, and the spring was not very high above their house, maybe only 15-20 foot of elevation, but their family of 7 got by just fine with it. If it's got a good flow all year, your could even run a separate line to a Pelton Wheel to provide power to the cabin. Gets you to thinking.... :) I'm excited to tinker with this project in the future here. Best wishes to you on your project! -Robert
@@TheOregonTale the pelton wheel is why im here (: you are mighty if you have one!
Get yourself some Rescue Tape. That stuff blows my mind, lol. I wrapped up a leak in the shower head feed tube that was blowing all over the place. It was meant to be a temporary fix. Been there for over a year now and not a drop out of it, lol. It’s not getting fixed so I can see how long it lasts. It has saved the day many times since!!
So amazing the things you figure out. Moth was cool. Never saw one that big. Thanks for taking us along. Be safe you two.
Thanks Cheryl! Stay safe out there too. -Robert
awesome about your water .the fur babies are so cute
Those little orange guys sure are fun. 😊 -Robert
That's very expensive. I have to buy a property with a mountain that has a creek passing through it.
Good idea
60 psi aint no joke. cool. great show. thanks
Thanks! Thought that was pretty cool too. Lots of things you could do with that. Plumb pressure to house without any pumps, maybe run a pelton wheel to generate electricity..... 🤔 -Robert
Super fun watching that!! Great idea and nice execution... wish i had water pressure in either my yard or house...I'm in the middle of a pretty steep hill where the city water comes... have no idea how all that works but I definitely get the limp end of the hose...🤷♀️ Smiles and blessings...
Thanks Lisa. You could always put a booster pump on your mainline to increase your pressure if it’s really low. Thanks for checking in with us! 😊 -Robert
Please let me know what size hose you used at the start and does it reduce to 3/4 inch?
How much 1inch hose and 3/4 inch hose was used?
Yes it started with 1” and necked down to 3/4 maybe halfway through. The only reason for that was that was what I had sitting around, and picked up a couple pieces to finish it out as a test. If you were feeding a whole house situation I would run 1” the whole way. -Robert
Will the hose have that same pressure without the pressure valve and only putting the hose in the water with nothing other than the hose only using gravity?
at 10:24, the solution is to sacrifice a small amount of head, and locate a catchment 'below' where the intake is.
Thanks David
thank u soo much ...😘😘😘
information. there is Pressure, because of the amount of head. but, head and pressure does not equal Volume.! aka the per second flow Rate. any 'plans' you have for the water, should account for THAT fact. d
Did you do an update with the flow rate?
Do you have an idea of the numbers of the water supply? Gallons per minute, height from the water intake to the out flow, psi, etc...?
It’s 60 psi. I have not done a gpm test
Cool project dude. Subscribed.
We’re so glad you joined us! Welcome 😄 -Robert & Dede
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Good content. 👍
Do you think this will freeze in the winter? I am looking at doing something like this for electricity - there are these basic little hydro turbines that can crank out 12v each. i am thinking of supplementing a solar setup with it.
would love to hear thoughts about freezing! thanks!
Hey there. It will depend on your climate. Moving water will freeze at lower temperature than 32 degrees Fahrenheit, or 0 degrees Celsius. Our creek for example still runs when we are in single digits of Fahrenheit. With that said, my setup to provide pressure to house would definitely freeze if it was not buried, because it would not always be flowing in the pipe. With water running to power your turbines, there would be movement through pipes which would help prevent freezing. If it’s running all the time you should be good, it you are shutting it down and keeping pressure in system it will freeze. If it’s always running I would guess you would be good below 0 Fahrenheit, your outlet area may start to freeze and pile up as it exits if it gets super cold. Hope this helps. 😄 -Robert
Unless it goes below 5 no it won’t freeze
I know from experience
Haha, this is what it's actually like to work on shit. Always missing pieces, doesn't work and is broken the first time, and then you get distracted by bugs and your dog. Relatable!!
Yep that’s life. Another trip to the store... 😂
How many feet was the initial drop from the water source before your line flattened out? Looking to run a line from my 550 gallon rain collection barrel to my lower garden and orchard. I also saw your Daikin hat. I write software for their chillers...
Only about 20’ and then started a flatter run, then down steep again. Maybe 800’ of line and around 135-150ft of vertical drop. I was talking to a friend and he grew up on a gravity fed house that only had a 15-20’ of vertical drop. My brother-in-law does HVAC and gets me a hat or shirt now and then. 👍 He asked where you live? Said there’s a lot of Hvac controls stuff up in the Great Lakes and daikin does some manufacturing down south. Oddly enough I got to tour their chiller control display room in New York with him too a few years back. 😄
Thanks for the response. Will be curious what my 80 to 100ft will give me. Tell your brother I work at the Virginia factory in Verona. I designed the software on the WME C-vintage chiller product line.
Cool. He said small world. 😊 If you have 80-100’ of vertical drop, that should be 35-45psi. I think it’s about 4.3psi per foot depending on some variables. Hope your project goes well James!
If I have a water tank on the roof of s shed connected to a pipe running down to a tap will I have enough water pressure to get water from the tap.?
Why not use it the generate electricity?
Could absolutely do that
Does it work with well?
Yes, gravity provides constant pressure.
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Thanks man
Swallows....we have free range chickens and no mice ...best mouses I ever had
👍 Chickens eat all kinds of stuff. Great pest control! -Robert
Look at videos about "Bunyip" pumps. No power or fuel...pumps insane pressure and head lift numbers.
Cool, and fun to watch!😃. Will that water have arsenic in it also, and if so will it affect the food grown in the garden? Hope this is not a silly question, I was just curious. Love y’all’s channel.
Hi Janell. From what I have read, arsenic typically doesn’t run in surface water. I am about to find out though. I picked up a water test kit and am going to get it tested. Might be cheaper and easier to run the house off of too if it comes back good. Want to see what my options are now. 😊 -Robert
Always had an idea to use deep water pressure to power things!cam anyone relate?
As in the pressure under water as you go down in depth? Hmm that’s interesting.
Yeah the idea keeps on Poppin in my head! don't know if it make sense?
Is it possible to lift water from open well 20 feet in diameter and 60 feet in depth and water filled up to 30 feet..
Have you come up with the solution to this? Am facing the same problem just curious can't water be pushed up by it own weight in the well
You can with a gas powered pump, or even with a properly placed hand pump with a lot of work
Nice video. I didn't see where you told how much elevation it is to get your 60 psi. We bought some property that has a gravity feed system, but we can't seem to get hardly any pressure. The pipe is all buried. I am thinking maybe there is an airlock or something because it hasn't been used for a while. 1200 gallon water tank is about 75 feet above the cabin. I know that the previous owner had good water pressure from this system because he has an on demand hot water heater that would not work without good pressure. So, any ideas as to why there is only a trickle coming out would be great. :)
Hi there. Sorry to hear you are having water troubles! you should get .433 PSI per foot of elevation so you should at 75 foot have about 32 PSI at the house which is plenty of pressure to service a house. Could be an air lock, but my guess is if has been sitting a long time, it probably has a sediment blocking the flow. Couple things I would try 1st. Check water tank. likely to plug with sediment where hose attaches. 2nd If you have an air compressor, you could try hooking it up at house and blowing air back up system to dislodge it, but be careful how much psi you use so you don’t blow your hose apart underground. could do the same thing with a pump and water if you have another source. You could also use a fish tape to check for plug in line. not sure how long piping is but this could either tell you how far down the line plug is, or could possible even break it up if it’s not too solid. since you are getting a trickle, shouldn’t be too solid. Hope these help. Happy troubleshooting! Let me know if you are still having trouble. Thanks. -Robert
Yes I bout guarantee it so open it and let it run and ypull see the air is way up the pipe
Bro, when it come to this topic, please leave the birds out of it and keep to the topic at hand. Thanks. Have a subscribe.
It's his video if you don't like the way he makes his content then go somewhere else I actually thought the birds were pretty cool
With as hot at is was up here today, I envy you getting sprayed in the face with that ice cold water LOL.
Lol. It was warm on that day and I didn’t mind too much. 😊 -Robert
You could run a water turbine generator with it. May be able to increase pressure with vacuum running pipe below the generator
Thanks Jon. I think it would easily run a Pelton wheel.
@@TheOregonTale that would be a fun little project. What is your drop in elevation? And do you have enough volume at the spring to increase your water volume?
I’m assuming about 135-150 foot of drop due to the 60 psi and approx psi per foot of drop calculation. I think even in heat of summer would probably still have enough to run a little larger pipe, or maybe 2 smaller ones- one to pressurize house, and one to run a Pelton wheel. Still tinkering with ideas and planning. -Robert
@@TheOregonTale ya, I got about 140 ft. You might want to go with the larger pipe and install a valve below the generator to reduce flow if needed. I have no idea how many watts you can get out of it. It would be fun to do though.
Hey water heater pressure relief valve works by pressure and temperature
Hmmm. I didn’t know it worked on temperature too. Interesting. -Robert
Jesus, man. Cut it, throw a ball valve push connection like a John Guest on the line with the valve open and you're not fighting it, then simply turn the valve to close.
Just testing the concept so I was tinkering around. It gets cold enough in the winter that I will need to bury the line. This spring/summer I plan on trenching a line down with all new stuff instead of cobbling together what was laying around. I will do it nicely with a permanent setup. -Robert
@@TheOregonTale -- I respect that, but if you're going to bury a line from a running source you can't just turn off I'd suggest a valve at the source and redundant valves close so you're not fighting pressure, nor having to dig and fix it. In-fact I'd suggest keeping it on the surface until you work out all logical but unforeseen issues such as creating a double-redudant valve after one right at the source, but I'm also all about 3 or 4 levels of redundancy when it comes to pressure and you're not exactly dealing with river pressure
@@TheOregonTale -- worst case you go yank your bypass out the crick 🤣. Good to have redundancy for flood or increased and unforeseen flow, but living and homesteading down hill from that all is its own concern 🤣😅🤐 best of luck ✌
Yeah I am a big fan of redundant shutoff valves. I think I can get an excavator up there, so might dig in a tank with some reserve capacity, Shutoff valves, drain valves etc would be a must. Still in the planning stage since it looks like a feasible project.
now work on yard drainage
Lol. No kidding. Found out later that storm dropped over an inch in 15 minutes. 😬 We typically don’t get that sort of rain here. There is definitely some more French drains in the future though. Robert