You forgot about the grounding cable used when refueling cars. Apparently it’s to prevent electrostatic discharge but I don’t know much more about how grounding works.
Ha! I just found that exact Pittsburgh jack yesterday when I was exiting the interstate. It obviously fell out of the back of a truck and was lying in the middle of the exit ramp. Since no one was behind me, I stopped, jumped out & grabbed it, and threw it in the back seat of my Trailblazer 🤣
Well we now need a video on Jim Hall and all his shenanigans to shorten up pit stop times. I'm only aware of him shortening up the fuel hose and I'm not sure if it was him but I've run across bits about teams apparently angling the fuel tanks to speed up gravity fed hoses. Also I'm shocked at how many times the fuel hose or tank has either gone up or straight up exploded over the years. I thought Michigan 81 was the only time, nope, I was way off
Well thanks TMS for bringing us this video on pit stop tools as 2 to 4 milliseconds dose make a difference on winning or fishing 2 second place big time my friend so with that i got to go see you later bye now. P.S Hey TMS are you interested in doing a video on group c prototype cars in the future as we wanting to know everything in depth.
@@themotorsportstory please do my friend as i want to know how insane that era came about and why did it end (spoiler alert it was bernie ecclestone who wanted to make f1 more popular in the 90s then prototype cars so he demanded for 3.5 liter formula be used in wsc but most of the manufacturers where leaving championship as sky high cost + low numbers of attendees spelled the end of group c my friend) so thank you and have good day bye now.
I thought Indycar (or at least CART back in the day) had one or two air jacks not one at each corner, or was that something that wasn't ever fully explained? To me it always looked like the car went up on one or two jack points during a pit stop. That iconic hiss and snap and the snarl of a 90s CART car pulling away is iconic and amazing still though. I need to go double check if if what I was told about how teams worked that is right, i.e. it was the vent ma man who was conecting the hoses and lifting the car. On that note, it's led to some horrific pit accidents due to drivers taking the car being dropped as a sign to go, see Milwaukee 99 among others, that had Parker Johnstone explaining about how and why drivers would have the car in first ready to go while the car was up in the air and peel out the moment the wheels touched the box and go. Then again for sports cars I'm wondering why instead of say at Le Mans when taking a car into the garage for repairs, they don't use the air jack instead of the trolleys to lift a car? I'm half expecting it to be in the rules somewhere a team can't actually do that...
Unsure of what the CART cars used, but this article from 2018 has a diagram that appears to show a jack at each corner: www.autoweek.com/racing/indycar/a1705346/indycar-tech-talk-air-pressure-key-air-jack-system/ And yes, very dangerous to have the drivers ready to go right when the jacks drop! Not sure on your last question about why they would use a trolley jack instead. It's a very good question, makes me want to go try to find the answer!
For refueling, I've always thought that using a detachable tank would be so much faster, just out with the old almost empty one and in with the new one, been tried a bit before, but never caught on, on top of needing cars to be redesigned to account for it, but it really would change refueling as a whole, saving a ton of time on full refuelings without risking fires and other issues.
Would definitely be interesting to see! The challenge is probably the time it would take to connect all of the lines and mount it compared to the time it takes to just use a hose or can.
@@themotorsportstory In endurance, when they have to refuel 50+ litres, even a high power hose can take a while. If the tank is exposed on the other hand, it could be removed instantly. There's tradeoffs with any method really, so would depend on whether you are refueling large amounts or a bit at a time (meaning heavily reliant on tyres, if you have to pit often for tyres, it would be pointless for example). There's also the fact hose allows you to not full refuel to keep the car lighter if fuel isn't an issue. The replaceable tank would mostly find a place in endurance racing, which is where it was tested on decades ago (can't remember which events it was exactly, was around 80s-90s).
Fuel coupling mechanism looked sloppy. Wheel gun on the other hand was really interesting, i guess several impact per minute is what really unclog the nut, rather than pure torque.
TMS x Torque Test Channel has gotta be one of the best crossover episodes of all time
😂Glad to hear it! And again a huge thanks to them for allowing me to use that footage!
I know not everyone goes this deep into educating on this, but I really enjoy it! Great job on this one😊
Thank you :)
8:43 I always crack up at the fuelers during these pit stop races.
😂Gotta add that invisible fuel
Your vids are great just binged a bunch
Thank you, much appreciated!
Great video explaining the details. An idea you could delve a bit into recent trends of fast brake change like in LeMans GTE and Bathurst 1000
Glad you enjoyed! And thanks for the idea, definitely could be interesting!
You forgot about the grounding cable used when refueling cars. Apparently it’s to prevent electrostatic discharge but I don’t know much more about how grounding works.
I ended up not covering it because only some types of cars use it, but definitely an important part for endurance cars! Thanks for the comment!
Ha! I just found that exact Pittsburgh jack yesterday when I was exiting the interstate. It obviously fell out of the back of a truck and was lying in the middle of the exit ramp. Since no one was behind me, I stopped, jumped out & grabbed it, and threw it in the back seat of my Trailblazer 🤣
😂It's a solid little jack! Use it all the time.
Oh i bet someone got upset they lost a floor jack and no one bothered to check if the trailer door was locked at all 😅.
I like background beat
Well we now need a video on Jim Hall and all his shenanigans to shorten up pit stop times. I'm only aware of him shortening up the fuel hose and I'm not sure if it was him but I've run across bits about teams apparently angling the fuel tanks to speed up gravity fed hoses. Also I'm shocked at how many times the fuel hose or tank has either gone up or straight up exploded over the years. I thought Michigan 81 was the only time, nope, I was way off
Well thanks TMS for bringing us this video on pit stop tools as 2 to 4 milliseconds dose make a difference on winning or fishing 2 second place big time my friend so with that i got to go see you later bye now. P.S Hey TMS are you interested in doing a video on group c prototype cars in the future as we wanting to know everything in depth.
Thank you for watching🙂 Definitely interested in doing a group c video at some point, I'll add it to my list of ideas!
@@themotorsportstory please do my friend as i want to know how insane that era came about and why did it end (spoiler alert it was bernie ecclestone who wanted to make f1 more popular in the 90s then prototype cars so he demanded for 3.5 liter formula be used in wsc but most of the manufacturers where leaving championship as sky high cost + low numbers of attendees spelled the end of group c my friend) so thank you and have good day bye now.
I thought Indycar (or at least CART back in the day) had one or two air jacks not one at each corner, or was that something that wasn't ever fully explained? To me it always looked like the car went up on one or two jack points during a pit stop. That iconic hiss and snap and the snarl of a 90s CART car pulling away is iconic and amazing still though. I need to go double check if if what I was told about how teams worked that is right, i.e. it was the vent ma man who was conecting the hoses and lifting the car. On that note, it's led to some horrific pit accidents due to drivers taking the car being dropped as a sign to go, see Milwaukee 99 among others, that had Parker Johnstone explaining about how and why drivers would have the car in first ready to go while the car was up in the air and peel out the moment the wheels touched the box and go.
Then again for sports cars I'm wondering why instead of say at Le Mans when taking a car into the garage for repairs, they don't use the air jack instead of the trolleys to lift a car? I'm half expecting it to be in the rules somewhere a team can't actually do that...
Unsure of what the CART cars used, but this article from 2018 has a diagram that appears to show a jack at each corner: www.autoweek.com/racing/indycar/a1705346/indycar-tech-talk-air-pressure-key-air-jack-system/
And yes, very dangerous to have the drivers ready to go right when the jacks drop!
Not sure on your last question about why they would use a trolley jack instead. It's a very good question, makes me want to go try to find the answer!
Cool
It's hard to explain some topic as "boring" as it is, in very interesting way like you did. Great job and great video. 👍🏻
Thank you!
For refueling, I've always thought that using a detachable tank would be so much faster, just out with the old almost empty one and in with the new one, been tried a bit before, but never caught on, on top of needing cars to be redesigned to account for it, but it really would change refueling as a whole, saving a ton of time on full refuelings without risking fires and other issues.
Would definitely be interesting to see! The challenge is probably the time it would take to connect all of the lines and mount it compared to the time it takes to just use a hose or can.
@@themotorsportstory In endurance, when they have to refuel 50+ litres, even a high power hose can take a while. If the tank is exposed on the other hand, it could be removed instantly. There's tradeoffs with any method really, so would depend on whether you are refueling large amounts or a bit at a time (meaning heavily reliant on tyres, if you have to pit often for tyres, it would be pointless for example). There's also the fact hose allows you to not full refuel to keep the car lighter if fuel isn't an issue. The replaceable tank would mostly find a place in endurance racing, which is where it was tested on decades ago (can't remember which events it was exactly, was around 80s-90s).
Lot to be said that you finish with, you what start with, no replaced tires, nor fuel top ups.
Fuel coupling mechanism looked sloppy. Wheel gun on the other hand was really interesting, i guess several impact per minute is what really unclog the nut, rather than pure torque.