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I was a firm yes camper until I noticed my dog didn't really like being approached by people. So then I started saying: "if she comes to you when you call her." Most of the time she wouldn't, sometimes she would. Her choice.
I sometimes get that answer to my request to introduce myself. Animals almost always want to make my acquaintance-I’m convinced they can smell a sucker.
My weim girl wouldn't let anyone touch her when out walking, not even the ppl I walked with every single day for years. Now I have a boxer who can't leave anyone alone. +lament+ hahaha
I see your point, and have no problem with my dog interacting when I feel it is right, (have taken my dogs to nursing homes and other groups),but I have a tangent problem to your video. Strangers come up and don’t even ask, they just feel entitled. It stops my training and even though my dog is fine with most situations, I don’t know what these people are going to do and there have been some who are crazy and irate. I had to ask one to leave us alone today. I had to literally step between her and my dog to keep her at bay. We were in a park (not dog park, but where people walk dogs) when she charged up to pet my dog, my dog sat still on a leash and gave one bark to let her know to give space. She started yelling at how dangerous my dog was and and was going to call security. I was by myself in a corner when she disrupted us. I have heard that people with service dogs often have similar issues. Do people let strangers come up and touch their child? I hope not. So why does the general public think they can come up and call or pet my dog anytime they want?
Thanks Stonnie, now my neighborhood has 6-7 who are now working on training their dogs to be better behaved. You were spot on, when they see a dog sit at every corner, wait, left, right, no pulling snarling, it causes others to want that.👍
My Belgian Malinois is incredibly well-behaved, but she's VERY wary of people. I WILL tell people to allow her to make the first move. It should be the dog's choice.
@@bubbag8895 I agree. Mostly (Molly made the decision to escape her previous owner's yard, and it wasn't a wise choice, as she was hit by a car and lost an eye).
I have a keeshond and we joke that the breed standard should include jumping. I can get mine not to jump when there’s food involved, but not without. If you managed to get this kees to stop being a jumper, it’d be very impressive. Please post more vids with her!
My Corso jumping up was impossible to control by leash and because of the breeds size they can knock over the person they are so happy to see. I had to brainwash her into good behaviour and I'm grateful for the cooperation from others in how they behaved with her. She's maturing into a sensible dog who listens.
I think it depends on what you want from your dog. I want my dog to only pay attention to me and not even think to go to others. (At least this is what we are working on as she wants to veer towards people for pats)
Do you think it’s reasonable to put your dog in a position where she’s only allowed to pay attention to you? Would you like to go out with a person who expected you to behave in a similar fashion?
I must live in a decent area - people always ask, I have not had anyone reach out towards my dog, or approach abruptly 🤷♂️ For most people, (except for say severe allergic people) Well trained dogs are a joy and add to community.
Since I don't have a dog, I always appreciate a chance to interact with someone's dog. Many times, it's more rewarding than interacting with the person. LOL
We tried so hard to train our cocker spaniel not to jump (clicker mostly). The problem was family, friends, and strangers who encouraged her to jump up to be petted. Our training was undone all the time. They are harder to educate! Our current dog is wary of strangers and doesn’t like it if people don’t ‘ask her permission’ first.
Yep train them to greet. My Aussie has to sit then release to approaching person then sit at knee of person to get her pets. Then she returns to a sit by me It's not that complex, just takes effort. At first I gave treats to person and a treat and pet on return, but now is completely on direction. People love it. She loves this game in home depot 5-6 people ask to pet and the game is now fun for her..👍👍😁
I am sure glad you said you should always let people pet your dog. This English Cream Retriever puppy I have is a magnet everywhere I go. People love petting him. And he soaks it up. Incredibly, he doesn’t jump up. I had a GSP before that I had the hardest time trying to teach him not to jump up on people. Different breed, different reactions.
I agree. there's a lot of passive aggressive posts on the internet by [not so competent] dog owners who are mad at others for even looking at their dog.
According to ADA rules, a service dog does NOT need to have a sign on it saying it's a service dog. And a distracted service dog can mean bloody accidents for the disabled person. Service dog or not, people are being RUDE if they approach/distract a stranger's dog without permission.
What’s your honest opinion on how many “service dogs” reliably provide the utilitarian value claimed? I would venture a guess that petting is just about the least likely thing to cause trouble in the utilization of a service dog.
I agree no one should be approaching a dog unsolicited. I also am very confident majority of service dogs couldn't pass a simple Canine Good Citizenship testing and provide zero service abilities.
@@StonnieDennis BS "emotional support dogs" aside, probably half. Because as with any well trained dog, all that training is easily destroyed due to user error. And then there are the charlatans who sell dogs; service, protection etc; to anybody who is desperate and has a pocket full of money. Very few dogs actually make the cut as service dog....and some are unexpected heroes. Look up maremma clover seizure.
Rather they are being rude or not is kinda irrelevant. The situation WILL occur if you go out and about with a dog. Having a dog in public spaces requires you as a responsible owner to train them how to successfully navigate the real world. Ideally no one interacts without first asking but ideal is not often reached. Even service dogs need to be able to. If your service dog is constantly biting or jumping on folks they will be sent out of shops. In case of service dogs they are taught to ignore the public so your training would focus on walking by kids reaching out for a pat, passing the walker without fear. ECT. No matter rather service dog or pet they must be able to navigate public spaces without becoming reactive when rude folks do as they do. You cannot control what others do. Real world training requires acknowledgement of real world.
@@StonnieDennis while there are some fake service dogs in public, many are in fact doing a much needed job. Would you go up and stroke someone's wheel chair, oxygen tank, or white cane? Of course you wouldnt, well the same goes for Service dogs who also provide a medically needed service, By the way, in many states, distracting a service dog can lead to fines and jail time - yes it is ILLEGAL to distract a service dog
100% agree. I saw on tik tok people saying no way. I do have the experience of very young kids 3-5 not knowing how to interact with my bichon, that's ok. However, I had this one 5yo who kicked my dog, I was tempted to kick the kid.
This is the first time I have to disagree with you. My dog absolutely hates it to be pet by strangers. I'd had no problem with other people petting my dog if I had a dog that would be happy to be pet by strangers. But she is hyper suspicious since she is a rescue from Romania. (I was lied about her issues before I got her. But I couldn't bring myself to give away my psycho witch)
But like he said, that's your problem to train don't you think. It can't be nice for her to be hyper suspicious of everyone trying to be nice. And it's somewhat unfair if a person interacts by accident or if you're not able to intervene quickly enough. Obviously I know rescues have lots of psychological issues to overcome but I think Stonnie is still correct here.
@@zoeen5650 Expecting all dogs the be genetically comfortable with strangers approaching and petting them is unrealistic. Also, very few working purposes are compatible with random people interacting unsolicited with the dog/handler.
@@jfkst1We can’t expect all people to to understand the genetic traits and tendencies of a given type of dog. The person responsible for the dog should know whether or not the dog is safe to take into the public space, given the broad range of human interactions which are likely and possible. An old lady with dementia shouldn’t have to remember the confirmation standard of every type of dog she encounters on her walk in the park.
@@StonnieDennis I consider it analogous to operating a motor vehicle. I can drive as defensively as possible and still cannot fully account for unpredictable recklessness of other drivers, cyclists, and pedestrians. The gray area of young children and cognitively compromised adults is a tiny sliver of interactions I've never experienced in years of handling. What I have experienced dozens of times every year is clearly in marked handler uniforms with "do not pet/working dog" labeled patches are unsolicited approaches of seemingly fully functional adults.
@@zoeen5650 I think we agree with most of the issue. Of course, I am 100% responsible if something happens, accident or not. But responsibility is not a zero sum game. A child that runs up to us because my dog looks like a fox mixed with a coyote? Surely, I manage the situation and everything is on me. But a grown up has no business approaching my dog without asking me first. I expect other grown-ups to be calm, attentive and polite themselves. I explicitly say to don't touch my dog. And many people then ignore what I am saying and try to approach her anyway. I think my issue with this whole topic is that taking responsibility shouldn't mean excusing naivety of other people. (I am talking about grown-ups, not children or demented elderly)
2 reasons i dont allow it, 1 i want my dogs tosee value in me not other people, 2 i know people dont always wash after using the bathroom and just dont want that all over my dog.
I have bite dogs. They aren't getting pet in public, but they need the exposure to be comfortable in public settings and wearing a muzzle at all times isn't practical. People shouldn't assume they can pet every dog they see.
@@StonnieDennis Armed security handlers have no choice. Many contracts won't allow muzzles for obvious impracticality purposes. And training exclusively in a muzzle for familiarization will lead to training biases I don't want my dogs having. Outside of young children, there should be no gray area in unsolicited approaching a leashed dog in public.
@@jfkst1Are you only taking your dogs out in public in a professional capacity? If so, that’s fairly obviously outside the scope of this video. If you are taking your dogs out in public in a professional capacity then I assume that you have a means of making the dogs purpose known to the general public and you also have appropriate training to handle the dog safely and plenty of liability insurance. Whether or not you think it’s good manners to approach a dog on a leash, your default position should be to make sure the dog is safe if/when that situation pops up considering it’s a well known and, almost unavoidable, part of taking dogs into a public space.
The responsibility for the behavior of the dog lies with the owner no? Minus some type of obvious and dangerous transgression on the person petting the dog, how would one justify their dog biting someone in a public setting?
@@StonnieDennis what may be an obvious transgression to some may not be obvious to another, plus i meant it as a fable, as i dont usually let strangers pet my dog, especially if he doesnt look like he wants them to. i try to respect the dogs wishes on this matter. strangers dont need to be petting my dog, hes not a toy. i wouldnt let strangers pet my wife.... :) love ya stonie...
Are you a fan of my training style, but can’t travel to Kentucky to see me in person? No worries! I offer an awesome online dog training course, which includes access to an array of exclusive videos and content, personalized coaching, journaling, and in-depth mentoring and evaluation by yours truly! If you just need some an advice or have a couple questions you need answered, I also offer professional consulting by the hour.
Both of these great services can be found here: www.kentuckycanine.com
Thank you all for your remarkable support over the years! I cannot express enough how grateful I am for your appreciation and patronage of this channel, my training style, and my kennel. Always remember, it’s a great day for a puppy-sized adventure!
I was a firm yes camper until I noticed my dog didn't really like being approached by people. So then I started saying: "if she comes to you when you call her." Most of the time she wouldn't, sometimes she would. Her choice.
That’s fair enough.
I sometimes get that answer to my request to introduce myself. Animals almost always want to make my acquaintance-I’m convinced they can smell a sucker.
My weim girl wouldn't let anyone touch her when out walking, not even the ppl I walked with every single day for years. Now I have a boxer who can't leave anyone alone. +lament+ hahaha
Good call, more people should do this.
I see your point, and have no problem with my dog interacting when I feel it is right, (have taken my dogs to nursing homes and other groups),but I have a tangent problem to your video.
Strangers come up and don’t even ask, they just feel entitled. It stops my training and even though my dog is fine with most situations, I don’t know what these people are going to do and there have been some who are crazy and irate.
I had to ask one to leave us alone today. I had to literally step between her and my dog to keep her at bay. We were in a park (not dog park, but where people walk dogs) when she charged up to pet my dog, my dog sat still on a leash and gave one bark to let her know to give space. She started yelling at how dangerous my dog was and and was going to call security. I was by myself in a corner when she disrupted us. I have heard that people with service dogs often have similar issues.
Do people let strangers come up and touch their child? I hope not. So why does the general public think they can come up and call or pet my dog anytime they want?
Such a refreshing opinion! Teach the dog how to peacefully interact with the society he's in, not the other way around.
Thanks Stonnie, now my neighborhood has 6-7 who are now working on training their dogs to be better behaved. You were spot on, when they see a dog sit at every corner, wait, left, right, no pulling snarling, it causes others to want that.👍
100%
My Belgian Malinois is incredibly well-behaved, but she's VERY wary of people. I WILL tell people to allow her to make the first move. It should be the dog's choice.
Dogs are great at making their own decisions
@@bubbag8895 I agree. Mostly (Molly made the decision to escape her previous owner's yard, and it wasn't a wise choice, as she was hit by a car and lost an eye).
I know a family friend whose lab once knocked her down the stairs and caused a severe injury. Always got to be training.
Very common, unfortunately.
I have a keeshond and we joke that the breed standard should include jumping. I can get mine not to jump when there’s food involved, but not without. If you managed to get this kees to stop being a jumper, it’d be very impressive. Please post more vids with her!
I let polite ppl pet my dogs if they ask nicely. Its always nice to spread smiles and happiness with dogs.
Great attitude!
I agree.. I love that my pups bring smiles to peoples faces
My Corso jumping up was impossible to control by leash and because of the breeds size they can knock over the person they are so happy to see. I had to brainwash her into good behaviour and I'm grateful for the cooperation from others in how they behaved with her. She's maturing into a sensible dog who listens.
I always ask permission to pet someone else's dog. I see it as common courtesy!
100%
Your walker training reminds me of a wonderful movie years ago called To Dance with the White Dog. Definitely worth any dog lover’s time.
All those beautiful black labs !! I am jealous. But happy for them and you.
I think it depends on what you want from your dog. I want my dog to only pay attention to me and not even think to go to others. (At least this is what we are working on as she wants to veer towards people for pats)
Do you think it’s reasonable to put your dog in a position where she’s only allowed to pay attention to you?
Would you like to go out with a person who expected you to behave in a similar fashion?
I must live in a decent area - people always ask, I have not had anyone reach out towards my dog, or approach abruptly 🤷♂️
For most people, (except for say severe allergic people)
Well trained dogs are a joy and add to community.
Since I don't have a dog, I always appreciate a chance to interact with someone's dog. Many times, it's more rewarding than interacting with the person. LOL
Zynax and red wine. Love it. You crack me up and still provide excellent training and advice. You’re the best
The council of black labs keeping watch was too good 😂 they weren’t whimpering or begging for treats that part is so hard
We tried so hard to train our cocker spaniel not to jump (clicker mostly). The problem was family, friends, and strangers who encouraged her to jump up to be petted. Our training was undone all the time. They are harder to educate!
Our current dog is wary of strangers and doesn’t like it if people don’t ‘ask her permission’ first.
Yep train them to greet.
My Aussie has to sit then release to approaching person then sit at knee of person to get her pets. Then she returns to a sit by me
It's not that complex, just takes effort. At first I gave treats to person and a treat and pet on return, but now is completely on direction. People love it. She loves this game in home depot 5-6 people ask to pet and the game is now fun for her..👍👍😁
I am sure glad you said you should always let people pet your dog. This English Cream Retriever puppy I have is a magnet everywhere I go. People love petting him. And he soaks it up. Incredibly, he doesn’t jump up. I had a GSP before that I had the hardest time trying to teach him not to jump up on people. Different breed, different reactions.
I agree. there's a lot of passive aggressive posts on the internet by [not so competent] dog owners who are mad at others for even looking at their dog.
Not just passive aggressive, aggressive aggressive…
Hey stony, I’d love to see a video of books you like about dog breeds and or dog training. Keep it up!
Thanks for another good, common sense video. I didn’t expect this to be an opinion that would get so many people riled up.
I’m in Louisville. Love your method of dog training. Love your videos!
thank you for this , my bouncy boxer needs this. She is ok with us but gets too excited with strangers or others
The Montessori class is one of the best ideas I've heard in a long time.
I'll only allow people who are considerate enough to request a part
According to ADA rules, a service dog does NOT need to have a sign on it saying it's a service dog. And a distracted service dog can mean bloody accidents for the disabled person.
Service dog or not, people are being RUDE if they approach/distract a stranger's dog without permission.
What’s your honest opinion on how many “service dogs” reliably provide the utilitarian value claimed?
I would venture a guess that petting is just about the least likely thing to cause trouble in the utilization of a service dog.
I agree no one should be approaching a dog unsolicited. I also am very confident majority of service dogs couldn't pass a simple Canine Good Citizenship testing and provide zero service abilities.
@@StonnieDennis BS "emotional support dogs" aside, probably half. Because as with any well trained dog, all that training is easily destroyed due to user error.
And then there are the charlatans who sell dogs; service, protection etc; to anybody who is desperate and has a pocket full of money.
Very few dogs actually make the cut as service dog....and some are unexpected heroes. Look up maremma clover seizure.
Rather they are being rude or not is kinda irrelevant. The situation WILL occur if you go out and about with a dog. Having a dog in public spaces requires you as a responsible owner to train them how to successfully navigate the real world. Ideally no one interacts without first asking but ideal is not often reached. Even service dogs need to be able to. If your service dog is constantly biting or jumping on folks they will be sent out of shops. In case of service dogs they are taught to ignore the public so your training would focus on walking by kids reaching out for a pat, passing the walker without fear. ECT. No matter rather service dog or pet they must be able to navigate public spaces without becoming reactive when rude folks do as they do. You cannot control what others do. Real world training requires acknowledgement of real world.
@@StonnieDennis while there are some fake service dogs in public, many are in fact doing a much needed job. Would you go up and stroke someone's wheel chair, oxygen tank, or white cane? Of course you wouldnt, well the same goes for Service dogs who also provide a medically needed service,
By the way, in many states, distracting a service dog can lead to fines and jail time - yes it is ILLEGAL to distract a service dog
I have Newfies I can’t walk 5 inches without people wanting to pet them 😂
Yes. I can see that. I would be one of the offenders when I saw them 🙂
100% agree. I saw on tik tok people saying no way. I do have the experience of very young kids 3-5 not knowing how to interact with my bichon, that's ok. However, I had this one 5yo who kicked my dog, I was tempted to kick the kid.
Thank goodness the walker was just a prop. I thought your son blew out his knee or something. Love the real world scenarios you come up with.
GREAT JOB, AS USUEL, UK.
I want people to be able to pet my dog in public but she seems afraid and will bark or growl to ward off strangers. How can I overcome this?
This is the first time I have to disagree with you. My dog absolutely hates it to be pet by strangers. I'd had no problem with other people petting my dog if I had a dog that would be happy to be pet by strangers. But she is hyper suspicious since she is a rescue from Romania. (I was lied about her issues before I got her. But I couldn't bring myself to give away my psycho witch)
But like he said, that's your problem to train don't you think. It can't be nice for her to be hyper suspicious of everyone trying to be nice. And it's somewhat unfair if a person interacts by accident or if you're not able to intervene quickly enough.
Obviously I know rescues have lots of psychological issues to overcome but I think Stonnie is still correct here.
@@zoeen5650
Expecting all dogs the be genetically comfortable with strangers approaching and petting them is unrealistic. Also, very few working purposes are compatible with random people interacting unsolicited with the dog/handler.
@@jfkst1We can’t expect all people to to understand the genetic traits and tendencies of a given type of dog.
The person responsible for the dog should know whether or not the dog is safe to take into the public space, given the broad range of human interactions which are likely and possible.
An old lady with dementia shouldn’t have to remember the confirmation standard of every type of dog she encounters on her walk in the park.
@@StonnieDennis
I consider it analogous to operating a motor vehicle. I can drive as defensively as possible and still cannot fully account for unpredictable recklessness of other drivers, cyclists, and pedestrians. The gray area of young children and cognitively compromised adults is a tiny sliver of interactions I've never experienced in years of handling. What I have experienced dozens of times every year is clearly in marked handler uniforms with "do not pet/working dog" labeled patches are unsolicited approaches of seemingly fully functional adults.
@@zoeen5650 I think we agree with most of the issue. Of course, I am 100% responsible if something happens, accident or not.
But responsibility is not a zero sum game. A child that runs up to us because my dog looks like a fox mixed with a coyote? Surely, I manage the situation and everything is on me. But a grown up has no business approaching my dog without asking me first.
I expect other grown-ups to be calm, attentive and polite themselves. I explicitly say to don't touch my dog. And many people then ignore what I am saying and try to approach her anyway.
I think my issue with this whole topic is that taking responsibility shouldn't mean excusing naivety of other people. (I am talking about grown-ups, not children or demented elderly)
A master at work 🙌 👏
Yes,my lab loves people
2 reasons i dont allow it, 1 i want my dogs tosee value in me not other people, 2 i know people dont always wash after using the bathroom and just dont want that all over my dog.
🇮🇪 beautiful dog 🐕 adorable
George shot up like a weed.
My dogs wont let anyone past them unless they give them a good pet
I have bite dogs. They aren't getting pet in public, but they need the exposure to be comfortable in public settings and wearing a muzzle at all times isn't practical. People shouldn't assume they can pet every dog they see.
Should you really be taking dogs that need to wear muzzles out in public?
@@StonnieDennis especially without a muzzle??
@@StonnieDennis You want to put them in the backyard for their entire life?
@@StonnieDennis
Armed security handlers have no choice. Many contracts won't allow muzzles for obvious impracticality purposes. And training exclusively in a muzzle for familiarization will lead to training biases I don't want my dogs having. Outside of young children, there should be no gray area in unsolicited approaching a leashed dog in public.
@@jfkst1Are you only taking your dogs out in public in a professional capacity? If so, that’s fairly obviously outside the scope of this video.
If you are taking your dogs out in public in a professional capacity then I assume that you have a means of making the dogs purpose known to the general public and you also have appropriate training to handle the dog safely and plenty of liability insurance.
Whether or not you think it’s good manners to approach a dog on a leash, your default position should be to make sure the dog is safe if/when that situation pops up considering it’s a well known and, almost unavoidable, part of taking dogs into a public space.
Mostly I let people pet my dog. But, if my dog hesitates or growls I pull her away. Dogs know when something is wrong with people. I trust my dog.
Only if you accept responsibility if he bites you.
The responsibility for the behavior of the dog lies with the owner no?
Minus some type of obvious and dangerous transgression on the person petting the dog, how would one justify their dog biting someone in a public setting?
@@StonnieDennis what may be an obvious transgression to some may not be obvious to another, plus i meant it as a fable, as i dont usually let strangers pet my dog, especially if he doesnt look like he wants them to. i try to respect the dogs wishes on this matter. strangers dont need to be petting my dog, hes not a toy. i wouldnt let strangers pet my wife.... :)
love ya stonie...