@@T5Zplayer Absolutely. I worked extremely hard to get what they would call rich. I see no problem to working hard and getting richer except those who believe they’re somehow entitled to my wealth.
This blaming of the previous government for current woes is literally the oldest trick in the book . The ancient Romans were doing it 2000 years ago . I am seventy five and every political party I can remember has done the same thing , when in opposition promise more jobs and houses and better education and health service and then when they get elected say “Oh we can’t do any of that now ,the previous government has left things in such a mess. “ Honestly , I have been hearing the same thing all my life
I think we all knew how bad things are. But the mystery for me is just where have all the taxes gone that we have been paying for the past 14 years? Accommodation of illegal immigrants and other controversial expenditures are relatively small amounts from the Public Purse, so what has happened to the rest of it I would like to know?
Paying a fortune for consultants at every turn instead of taking responsibility themselves for doing their jobs; vast overexpenditure on eg. PPE, HS2, Rwanda etc; refusal to impose relatively small tax increases on corporations and the absurdly wealthy due to a mistaken belief that ‘trickle-down economics’ actually works while watching profits leech out of the country’s economy and into private offshore bank accounts; the list is endless, frankly
Useless and doomed projects left right and centre. Rwanda is just an example. The last 10 years has been rife with poor quality governance. Yes, a lot of corruption too, but the big money (in my opinion) was lost by incompetence.
Why is it difficult to keep pay below the private sector. Why don't the media ever call out their pensions and protections and lack of job losses as paymnet
@@stephenconway2468 In what way. is it below ? I've already explained that packages in the public sector are better. And why should it be the same ? If that is true then peolpe join the public sector and nd not the private sector ... and it's only the private sector that pays tax. Remember all public sector does is "recycle" private sector tax. A brain drain away from what is productive is what happens when the public sector gets too cushy.
Tax raises for corporations and the wealthiest. How hard is that? The notion that tax breaks for corporations and wealthy citizens spur “innovation” is patently false. IF the recipient of a tax cut uses that money to hire people, train people, grow the infrastructure, etc, those claims would be justified. More money in the hands of the working class is what grows an economy as that money is spent and not reinvested unto stock schemes. Making money is NOT productive for anyone but shareholders and executives.
Public Finances in the worst state since whenever....and yet the highest tax burden on the country (people and businesses) for 70 years. There is no room for more taxes - at least not on the poorest 80%. As for the richest 20%, well....since 2016, over 16,000 - that's 16 thousand - Millionaires (most foreign) have decided to leave the UK, and take their wealth, buying power and tax contributions with them. Be careful Starmer - we can't ALL work for the Public Sector.
This is all very well but perhaps someone can tell me how it is possible to prepare a political party 'manifesto' if they are not in full possession of the facts. Surely, in the interests of truth, honesty and openness, it would be sensible to ensure that all the facts are available to all political parties as soon as an election is announced, ensuring that enough time is give for the facts to be analysed and digested by all parties.
Great comment. If Labour based it on suspicions then they would have be creamed by the Tories and also they still would not have known the exact figures.
Hang on, a few days ago Sunak & Hunt were saying how fortunate Labour were with their inheritance! Don’t blame the new government for making sure everyone knows the actual truth.
Lets not forget Rwanda public cost at £300 million and now its £700 million!. Sunak/Hunt cut NI twice this year because the country could afford it! Was that true? or are we discovering another Truss moment?
What happened to The £350million a week we would have when we left the EU. Maybe we were stupid to believe that . They said we need change. I thought that meant it would be change for the better
@@garethwilliams4467 Brexit cost us 8 times that figure at least. The £350 million a week was more than our net contribution to the EU. So that figure was not related to being in the EU. The 4 years before the referendum we also increased the NHS budget by £400 million a week. Yes, we have since 2016 done that again. However, it comes from cuts in other departments and raising taxes. Brexit actually made it worse because we had huge extra Brexit costs and reduction in what would have been our tax base. Look at the figures but also understand them.
@@stephenconway2468 look at the figures we save over 90 billin so far in EU subsidy. Services are growing. The problem is we simply don't have the leasders to force those on benefits into work, even though we have jobs available thus we could reduce our outgoings for any interim shortfall whilst crap companies adjust. Of course the 350 million per week is related to the EU - and the NHS has had more than that since then. Nothing wrong with cutting departmetns if they aren't producing anything. Nothing wrong with tax in areas to nudge behaviour. Look at the figures. The brexit costs were a one off and with proper leadership we should be making money through new trade deals. The truth there is that UK doesn't actually produce anything that good that can truly compete worldwide, the Brits need their cosy little club.
If Starmer had provided an opposition to the Tory government the UK wouldn't be in such an awful place. Let things get so bad so Labour would be elected by default, and I say this as a Labour voter of nearly 30 years
Media have nothing else in UK politics atm, the latest Tory contest is a flop -- it's the "find someone with enthusiasm" challenge and that includes the journalists.
Sunak actually said, if the public don’t understand they’re ’Stupid’. Millions of our people swallowed on it. But they Knew and took their revenge. Amazing how one bloke with so much, can have such sticky fingers.
@@beawatton Two days on and your comment holds water. Rachel Reeves aimed from the hip with today’s statement. Hunt sat giving the impression of Demented. She put Sunak and Hunt’s incompetence financially, perfectly and the truth is astounding. Lot of MP’s both sides querying rat infested hospitals, as Tory’s did nothing to grip the urgency. Wouldn’t be surprised if Sunak Paid the rats to stay where they are.
They won't stop giving taxpayers money away ILLEGALLY, the billionaires so called royals are exploiting taxpayer's as modern slaves for their EXTREMELY LAVISH LUXURY LIFE STYLE and the Government don't care about British taxpayer's citizens, for the love of money the root of all EVILS !!
All through that Tory government Labour provided pathetic opposition. They must have been sleeping on the job if they didn't know about all this. And anyway they were with the Tories all the way on the lockdowns. Even saying they didn't go far enough! So they must have known the cupboard would be bare.
Not access to all I think... I read somewhere about some government financial advisory body issued it's information and projection in March and then got new information it'self in late June (?) so redid reports and that's what people are using and why Labour saying didn't have access to all. Weird
@@T5Zplayer Aha .... with that said, Labour must be to blame for all of the thieving that went on by the Tories these last 14 years and also to blame for Tory family members being fast-tracked for COVID contracts of tens of ££Billions££ 😂😂😂. Of course Labour didn't know everything, behave!
The detail is published as public records. Labour was in opposition to hold the government to account. If Labour can’t even do the job of opposition then the country is in for a rough ride.
Privatise the NHS. That way we not only have to pay for its useless and bloated management but we also raise money from its sale. Win-win with precisely no drawbacks.
The NHS will never work as whilst it is free at the point of use (which I imagine is most people’s preference) demand will be unlimited, cost for it to work also being unlimited.
People are just laughing at the Chancellor right now.. Everyone knew the state of the public affairs, it’s a matter of public record (and has been for years!!). No one is buying this nonsense. Labour wanted power, they got it!!
So, in summary everyone knew that taxes needed to rise but the Tories vilified Labour over the Sunak tax slur?!! Labour has to grow a backbone. We cannot keep kow towing to Murdoch The Daily Mail and anonymously funded Think Tanks for ever - at some point stakeholders have to be considered!
The UKs yearly budget is £1200bn, so another £20bn, isn't going to blow up the country. This is a political framing issue (mostly of Labour's own making), rather than a genuine economic issue.
Eight million pounds is but a miniscule droplet in an ocean of Tory ineptitude. The tragedy is that even so early, Labour 's declared policies are going to make the Tories appear positively brilliant in comparison. National debt runs thus: "At the end of 2023/24 public sector net debt was £2,690 billion (i.e. £2.6 trillion), or 98% of GDP. This is equivalent to around £37,900 per capita." (House of Commons Library)
Yes we’ll mention 8 millions because it’s linked to illegals but ignore the 6 billion tories were going to spend on Rwanda deal. So far 1 billion spent for a grand total of 4 removals. Absolute joke.
8 million is a tiny tiny amount in the budget. It is clear that some people are looking to satisfy their hate at every opportunity rather than really talking about issues that help UK
Yes Labour assumed the Tories were holding information back. No they didn't know that it was to the tune of 20B. I think a lot of economic forecasting would have to be redone with a newly discovered 20 billion hit to your budget 🤣
The paying of more taxes is not on labour it's on the 14 years of criminal Tory mismanagement of the countries finances. No one will happybut we all know whose fault it is.
Yes 14 years of total failure and I’m still a worthless bootlicker. Worth bearing in my mind the last Labour government where a million million million times better than the absolute inept and corrupt Tories.
Part of the reason it’s in a mess is massive problems with recruitment and staff retention caused by a decade of real terms pay cuts under the Tories. At the moment the NHS is surviving with mass immigrant labour from other countries while British born medical staff emigrate to Australia and Canada where they can get Visas like confetti and earn three or four times their UK salaries at the same pay grade.
Sunak so used to wealth that he was out of touch with the working class , he had it all handed to him on a plate , then he married into a huge amount of money ,so he just played around , basking and dreaming on clouds ☁️ of his accomplishment and status . Puffed up with own self serving ideas , He was a joke who took over from the previous clown , it’s all a bloody circus. I never never vote . They all corrupt liars . The latest one called starmer is stepping on his own people to get what he wants , they make me sick .
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Didn't we all know?
rich get richer poor get poorer always has always will do politicians dont have the solution to problems politicians are the problem
The idle and feckless are the problem
@@T5Zplayer Absolutely. I worked extremely hard to get what they would call rich. I see no problem to working hard and getting richer except those who believe they’re somehow entitled to my wealth.
@@T5Zplayer Fiat currency is the problem.
@@carlwide6594 Try life without any currency. Gold based currency has been shown to be a disaster.
This blaming of the previous government for current woes is literally the oldest trick in the book . The ancient Romans were doing it 2000 years ago . I am seventy five and every political party I can remember has done the same thing , when in opposition promise more jobs and houses and better education and health service and then when they get elected say “Oh we can’t do any of that now ,the previous government has left things in such a mess. “ Honestly , I have been hearing the same thing all my life
The Tories did it for 14 YEARS
If the financial problem is so big, why is there going to be a 5.5% pay rise for public sector workers?
Because this will help to solve the financial problem.
Because Unions
@paulomarinho1963 what adding more money to the black hole?..
@@PaulabJohnson umm the doctors are potentially getting 5.5% like everyone else. Looks like the unions failed.
@@Jase29
Yes, indeed.
I think we all knew how bad things are. But the mystery for me is just where have all the taxes gone that we have been paying for the past 14 years? Accommodation of illegal immigrants and other controversial expenditures are relatively small amounts from the Public Purse, so what has happened to the rest of it I would like to know?
Paying a fortune for consultants at every turn instead of taking responsibility themselves for doing their jobs; vast overexpenditure on eg. PPE, HS2, Rwanda etc; refusal to impose relatively small tax increases on corporations and the absurdly wealthy due to a mistaken belief that ‘trickle-down economics’ actually works while watching profits leech out of the country’s economy and into private offshore bank accounts; the list is endless, frankly
I couldn't agree more!@@1972hermanoben
Useless and doomed projects left right and centre. Rwanda is just an example. The last 10 years has been rife with poor quality governance. Yes, a lot of corruption too, but the big money (in my opinion) was lost by incompetence.
Why is it difficult to keep pay below the private sector. Why don't the media ever call out their pensions and protections and lack of job losses as paymnet
Public sector should be at private sector level and yet it is already below it. That means that there is catching up to do.
@@stephenconway2468 In what way. is it below ? I've already explained that packages in the public sector are better. And why should it be the same ? If that is true then peolpe join the public sector and nd not the private sector ... and it's only the private sector that pays tax. Remember all public sector does is "recycle" private sector tax. A brain drain away from what is productive is what happens when the public sector gets too cushy.
of course but this isn't new or a surprise, since there has been a global pandemic and a cost of living crisis due to the war in Ukraine.
That justifies a bad situation perhaps but not that we were told a different amount.
Tax raises for corporations and the wealthiest. How hard is that? The notion that tax breaks for corporations and wealthy citizens spur “innovation” is patently false. IF the recipient of a tax cut uses that money to hire people, train people, grow the infrastructure, etc, those claims would be justified.
More money in the hands of the working class is what grows an economy as that money is spent and not reinvested unto stock schemes.
Making money is NOT productive for anyone but shareholders and executives.
Talking crap, take your hate and envy elsewhere
@@NeuroDeviant421 as I understand it, the less people are taxed the more revenue is raised. Strange but true..
@@T5Zplayer That's projection on your part.
Even Christ (who was taxed to death), didn't bow to the people, in the end.
I mean it does spur investment. That's why seis is so effective. It's really easy to get seis and moderately easy with eis.
Public Finances in the worst state since whenever....and yet the highest tax burden on the country (people and businesses) for 70 years. There is no room for more taxes - at least not on the poorest 80%. As for the richest 20%, well....since 2016, over 16,000 - that's 16 thousand - Millionaires (most foreign) have decided to leave the UK, and take their wealth, buying power and tax contributions with them. Be careful Starmer - we can't ALL work for the Public Sector.
This is all very well but perhaps someone can tell me how it is possible to prepare a political party 'manifesto' if they are not in full possession of the facts. Surely, in the interests of truth, honesty and openness, it would be sensible to ensure that all the facts are available to all political parties as soon as an election is announced, ensuring that enough time is give for the facts to be analysed and digested by all parties.
Great comment. If Labour based it on suspicions then they would have be creamed by the Tories and also they still would not have known the exact figures.
Hang on, a few days ago Sunak & Hunt were saying how fortunate Labour were with their inheritance! Don’t blame the new government for making sure everyone knows the actual truth.
Lets not forget Rwanda public cost at £300 million and now its £700 million!. Sunak/Hunt cut NI twice this year because the country could afford it! Was that true? or are we discovering another Truss moment?
What happened to The £350million a week we would have when we left the EU. Maybe we were stupid to believe that . They said we need change. I thought that meant it would be change for the better
We have spent more than an extra £350million per week on the NHS since Brexit - look at the figures
@@garethwilliams4467 Brexit cost us 8 times that figure at least. The £350 million a week was more than our net contribution to the EU. So that figure was not related to being in the EU. The 4 years before the referendum we also increased the NHS budget by £400 million a week. Yes, we have since 2016 done that again. However, it comes from cuts in other departments and raising taxes. Brexit actually made it worse because we had huge extra Brexit costs and reduction in what would have been our tax base.
Look at the figures but also understand them.
@@stephenconway2468 look at the figures we save over 90 billin so far in EU subsidy. Services are growing. The problem is we simply don't have the leasders to force those on benefits into work, even though we have jobs available thus we could reduce our outgoings for any interim shortfall whilst crap companies adjust. Of course the 350 million per week is related to the EU - and the NHS has had more than that since then. Nothing wrong with cutting departmetns if they aren't producing anything. Nothing wrong with tax in areas to nudge behaviour. Look at the figures. The brexit costs were a one off and with proper leadership we should be making money through new trade deals. The truth there is that UK doesn't actually produce anything that good that can truly compete worldwide, the Brits need their cosy little club.
If Starmer had provided an opposition to the Tory government the UK wouldn't be in such an awful place. Let things get so bad so Labour would be elected by default, and I say this as a Labour voter of nearly 30 years
Really showing your bias with the title there Sky. Yes they knew that public finances were screwed - we all did, hence the tories were voted out.
Media have nothing else in UK politics atm, the latest Tory contest is a flop -- it's the "find someone with enthusiasm" challenge and that includes the journalists.
Sunak actually said, if the public don’t understand they’re ’Stupid’. Millions of our people swallowed on it. But they Knew and took their revenge. Amazing how one bloke with so much, can have such sticky fingers.
Hahaha starmerfilth wanted longer lockdowns. But the left are thick
Labour ducking all responsibility for anything will be the theme of starmers premiership
@@beawatton Two days on and your comment holds water. Rachel Reeves aimed from the hip with today’s statement. Hunt sat giving the impression of Demented. She put Sunak and Hunt’s incompetence financially, perfectly and the truth is astounding. Lot of MP’s both sides querying rat infested hospitals, as Tory’s did nothing to grip the urgency. Wouldn’t be surprised if Sunak Paid the rats to stay where they are.
So it's a factual statement rather than any kind of indictment?
Im a peasant, but why punish the rich !?
It might be an idea to stop giving our countries money away.
They won't stop giving taxpayers money away ILLEGALLY, the billionaires so called royals are exploiting taxpayer's as modern slaves for their EXTREMELY LAVISH LUXURY LIFE STYLE and the Government don't care about British taxpayer's citizens, for the love of money the root of all EVILS !!
Wasn't that what Brexit was about... didn't we get the £300m per week back from EU... or was that all b0110ck5?
All through that Tory government Labour provided pathetic opposition. They must have been sleeping on the job if they didn't know about all this. And anyway they were with the Tories all the way on the lockdowns. Even saying they didn't go far enough! So they must have known the cupboard would be bare.
Labour had access to all fiscal and budgetary information. ANOTHER LABOUR LIE!
The thing is - they didn't it !!!!
Not access to all I think... I read somewhere about some government financial advisory body issued it's information and projection in March and then got new information it'self in late June (?) so redid reports and that's what people are using and why Labour saying didn't have access to all. Weird
So hes an expert so why didnt he know if it was public knowledge.
And why were tories promising tax cut donehete was the mony coming from.
The Devil is in the Detail - Labour clearly never new all of the detail.
A lie. All commons select committees have labour members. In fact the main public accounts committee was chaired by labour
@@T5Zplayer Aha .... with that said, Labour must be to blame for all of the thieving that went on by the Tories these last 14 years and also to blame for Tory family members being fast-tracked for COVID contracts of tens of ££Billions££ 😂😂😂.
Of course Labour didn't know everything, behave!
@manuelhung7571 Dimmest comment so far. Brown raided my pension pot, it never recovered.
The detail is published as public records. Labour was in opposition to hold the government to account. If Labour can’t even do the job of opposition then the country is in for a rough ride.
Give over ..the IFS is a think tank ... It has a narrow remit that ignores any social effects of its policy interpretation.
Just raise the taxes, we know our public sector is a mess- but we need to reform the NHS, it is not working!
Because the british public abuse the system. Live a healthier lifestyle
Privatise the NHS. That way we not only have to pay for its useless and bloated management but we also raise money from its sale. Win-win with precisely no drawbacks.
@@Cat10980 NHS, the money pit that will eventually bankrupt the nation!
Reform in what way?
The NHS will never work as whilst it is free at the point of use (which I imagine is most people’s preference) demand will be unlimited, cost for it to work also being unlimited.
That’s not what he said at all.
Where was this guy before the election
Breaking news someone has stolen all of Rayner's books from her library three of them she hasn't even coloured in yet
People are just laughing at the Chancellor right now.. Everyone knew the state of the public affairs, it’s a matter of public record (and has been for years!!). No one is buying this nonsense. Labour wanted power, they got it!!
Even the OBR has admitted that they'd been kept in the dark. This is scandalous as the Govt is honour-bound to be frank with them.
What did they expect after Covid 🤷♂️
Am I watching Sky News Australia?
How are we supposed to know ?
@@crispyduck1706 because it’s running on the name Sky News Australia and they are crazy conservative… disgustingly conservative nationalists.
So, in summary everyone knew that taxes needed to rise but the Tories vilified Labour over the Sunak tax slur?!!
Labour has to grow a backbone. We cannot keep kow towing to Murdoch The Daily Mail and anonymously funded Think Tanks for ever - at some point stakeholders have to be considered!
Labour has to raise taxes the tories are responsible
The UKs yearly budget is £1200bn, so another £20bn, isn't going to blow up the country. This is a political framing issue (mostly of Labour's own making), rather than a genuine economic issue.
Perhaps withdrawing the 8million to accommodate illegals just might help out finances...
@@janetKershaw-r5y AND PUT THEM TO WORK TO GET THE NHS WAITING LIST DOWN FOR OUT GRANDPARENTS SAKE
Eight million pounds is but a miniscule droplet in an ocean of Tory ineptitude. The tragedy is that even so early, Labour 's declared policies are going to make the Tories appear positively brilliant in comparison. National debt runs thus: "At the end of 2023/24 public sector net debt was £2,690 billion (i.e. £2.6 trillion), or 98% of GDP. This is equivalent to around £37,900 per capita." (House of Commons Library)
Yes we’ll mention 8 millions because it’s linked to illegals but ignore the 6 billion tories were going to spend on Rwanda deal. So far 1 billion spent for a grand total of 4 removals. Absolute joke.
8 million is a tiny tiny amount in the budget. It is clear that some people are looking to satisfy their hate at every opportunity rather than really talking about issues that help UK
yeah and spending close to 80 million pounds to deport 5 volunteers to Rwanda was a great idea.
(per volunteer)
Only going to get worse, they haven't got a clue !!!
The Conservatives knew even sooner! 😂
Sorry, what’s the joke?
@@TimComley the Tories
Oh come on they all knew in the labour party equally
Dont tell the guardian readers they are still in denial mode 😂
Yes Labour assumed the Tories were holding information back. No they didn't know that it was to the tune of 20B. I think a lot of economic forecasting would have to be redone with a newly discovered 20 billion hit to your budget 🤣
No worries, Labour voters will not mind paying more tax😂
why do any of them actually work
No worries, Tory voters are happy seeing everything crumble around them, but hey at least the lefties are unhappy too eh? 🍻
The issue is that the Tory govt lied and that is it. Did they lie? Yes they lied. Any incoming govt cannot be blamed because they had been lied to.
The paying of more taxes is not on labour it's on the 14 years of criminal Tory mismanagement of the countries finances. No one will happybut we all know whose fault it is.
@@thearsenalmisfit2414 labour have left the fiances in a worse state every time theyve been in power .without a pandemic
There's one thing worse than the recent Conservative party ?
The labour party!!
Yes 14 years of total failure and I’m still a worthless bootlicker. Worth bearing in my mind the last Labour government where a million million million times better than the absolute inept and corrupt Tories.
What a bullshot title. One min he says thry knew largely. And then says but they didn't know the details and some key facts.
But...but...'torees out' and 'soshil justis' in...dohhhh...
Why the Hell do they pretend..Bloody lies
Tax the churches and pursue tax evaders! Problem solved.
They knew.
Liebour lies & lies
Labour im afraid are all talk but starmer will be useless as he prefers Davos to the uk.
If public sector is such a mess, why do they deserve a 5.5% payrise?
Part of the reason it’s in a mess is massive problems with recruitment and staff retention caused by a decade of real terms pay cuts under the Tories. At the moment the NHS is surviving with mass immigrant labour from other countries while British born medical staff emigrate to Australia and Canada where they can get Visas like confetti and earn three or four times their UK salaries at the same pay grade.
Labour were skint £310 million to Sue Gray £84 million to French President were did that money come from.
easy to blame others they worst party ever for spending money
Broadly speaking, why can’t he just spit it out. Sunak pissed everything up the wall.
Sunak so used to wealth that he was out of touch with the working class , he had it all handed to him on a plate , then he married into a huge amount of money ,so he just played around , basking and dreaming on clouds ☁️ of his accomplishment and status . Puffed up with own self serving ideas , He was a joke who took over from the previous clown , it’s all a bloody circus. I never never vote . They all corrupt liars . The latest one called starmer is stepping on his own people to get what he wants , they make me sick .
How self satisfied can one bloke look.
Labour makes Conservative U.K. look appealing
Conservative UK literally just lost by the biggest margin in their history to Labour... doh?
@@jambudvipi 👍👍👍
Hello
This guy has always been siding with the tories,they stopped asking Blanchflower because he was more Labour,so they couldnt have that.
Bollocks your agenda isn't fooling anyone
Letting abbot loose with that abacus.. was not a good idea
HOW??
HOW DID THEY KNOW???
LABOUR NEVER HAD ACCESS TO THE BOOKS, UNTIL THEY GOT INTO POWER!!!
SO COME ON EXPLAIN HOW THEY KNEW WITH EVIDENCE!!!!
TORIES KEPT SAYING LABOUR WOULD PUT IT UP KNOWING FULL WELL THEMSELVES THEY WOULD HAVE TO, SO WHY DIDNT SUNAK OWN UP , HE POINTED IT OUT, WHAT A TIM NICE BUT DIM PM HE WAS LOL 😅😅😅😅😅
TLDR labout lied
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Uk is not even a third world country. I'd say its getting on a par with "yemen" i.e. about 10th world.