Thank you for posting all of these historical programs regarding AIDS. People think there is no longer a threat from AIDS, there is. Cleeve Jones, you sir, are simply amazing.
Anyone else watching this remember Garden Sullivan Hospital on Geary? I was a social worker there in the 90’s working with dying AIDS patients. It was so incredibly sad.
Laura .... today I am a DNP, but back in the late 1980s/early 1990s I worked the night shift as an LVN at Garden Sullivan out of Geary Street. I have, to this day, one profound memory of working there. It was 2 or 3AM and my patient was actively dying of AIDS. I hate that I forgot his name, but I remember him and my experince with him to this day. He was 23, I was 27 or 28. I also worked on the AIDS Unit on the 5th floor at Mount Zion (before it became UCSF). I will be 62 in April. I'M STILL HERE ... and negative (and I feel like the only one). So happy to see your post. Anthony
@@anthonydavid5121 I also worked for VNA remember the visiting nurse association. I got to do home visits in San Francisco. I got to see the inside of San Francisco. I met the most amazing patients and families. I am 57 now. I would love to connect with you. San Francisco is my heart and soul. I miss it every day. I live in Newport Beach now and work as a psychiatric social worker in Huntington Beach but San Francisco has my heart.
Actually 2,000 men in San Francisco had died from the disease when this was made in early 1986. 2,000 men were gone in just one city. And by 1996 almost 35,000 men in San Francisco had died from the disease. California in total had about 90,000 deaths by 1996.
It is crazy. ....male sex drive is so powerful and dangerous.....all the deaths after they knew the risks....Russian roulette with 5 bullets in a six cylinder gun...
@@US_ARMY_25_INF._DIV. Yes.. but the culture in the 50s, 60s, and 70s was that Casual Sex(both heterosexual and homosexual)was a big part of our landscape and was one of things people did, to find pleasure, or relief from life's hardships. AIDS changed that but it took 5-10 years for a big shift to happen.
@@patr70 it was all anal sex deaths....it is almost impossible to get through oral play....I get it....but these men were still stupid and reckless....I was in the same boat due to being bisexual.....the one eyed monster has no conscience when it becomes angry...
I grew up in SF and remember all of this happening. I was young enough to make wise choices by the time I became active sexually. I often think that if I was born just one year earlier, that I would have got infected and died. I had many older friends die and I miss them to this day.
I have a weakness for trans women...i need to watch this when i get the urge....even with prep i do not need any of this shit in my life....as well as all the other std s ......40 mins of sex is not that important in the long run
@@US_ARMY_25_INF._DIV. there's no such thing as a trans woman. They're men, and your weakness is being gay, which is fine, but you sound delusional on how both sexuality and biology work.
So many unknowns back then. Today we know is not transmissible through french kissing UNLESS bleeding gums are involved. And we know anal intercourse is the highest risk activity because of the high permeability of the membranes of the rectum and anal canal sections of the large intestine.
It was known in the mid 1970's that anal sex was a highly efficient means of spreading viral infection. A pre-AIDS study of the way gay men in New York City acquired hepatitis confirmed this. In fact, before AIDS, hepatitis was in some quarters referred to as "gay plague". The unfortunate combination of denial of this fact among many in the gay community, especially in the early years of the epidemic, and longer lasting resistance in the wider community to funding public health research, education and condom distribution, often due to religious bigotry or fiscal conservatism, meant that precious time was lost when a simple, low cost solution was available that could have stemmed the spread of the disease shortly after it was identified, and spared countless lives and much suffering. Chillingly, I noticed that the recent response to Monkey pox looked disturbingly similar.
Isn't it Something how everything I've always been afraid of knocked at my door and claimed a place..? I'm so hurting deeply. I mean everything I've ever feared has happened to me even if not directly but so close to home.
It's gotten much better, and (maybe in the 3 years since you wrote that) a handful of people *have* gotten a cure or something very close to it. (They received a treatment that allowed them to quit their antivirals and, so far, maintain an undetectable viral load indefinitely.) Trouble is that this cure is typically more risk than it's worth. If a patient can be sustained on antivirals, they have a lower risk of death remaining on them than taking the cure unless they are in a small group of people with cancer who desperately need it anyway.
There's no money for big pharma in a cure. I would guess that a cure has been developed for many diseases, but the greed associated with pharmaceutical industries is so pervasive, that they would rather create treatments for profit over caring/curing for humanity.
I believe there is a cure but big pharma makes more money off the ridiculous amount of meds these people must take to stay alive also I don’t believe we don’t have cures for some cancers it’s all political and all about the money
The sad part is I don't think we as a younger generation in the gay community are looking out for each other. Covid and Monkey Pox have taught me that.
Poor blighters in hospital beds, reduced to the status of living cadavers, clinging to a vain fleck of hope. The love of their partners, the tragic decline of many fine young men.
I once had sexual contact many years ago with a one night stand I found out later was hiv positive .For years I freaked out I had caught it ,how I didn’t I don’t know ,luck I guess .Thanks for posting this .Peace
I have a weakness for trans women...i need to watch this when i get the urge....even with prep i do not need any of this shit in my life....as well as all the other std s ......40 mins of sex is not that important in the long run
I was with my husband for 5 years (married for 4) before he developed AIDS about a month ago and we found out he had been HIV positive the whole time I knew him. (He doesn't have that much of a history that would make you suspect it, by it looks like he either met someone who did or met someone who met someone who did.) I got tested and turned out negative. Was never infected during the whole time that I knew him. Turns out that it matters a lot what type of sex you have, especially if you're gay. If you're heterosexual, you're safer if you're the man, but in neither case is it a guarantee that you'll catch it, especially if their viral load is relatively low. Luck isn't all there is.
I was born in 1969 and when aids was first coming out in the early 80s I’m so glad I wasn’t old enough to be Having sex with men I had a lot of education on it by 1986 when I was 17 years old and it scared me to be with anyone
He's still alive when all the trusting innocent political gay men who went back to the bath houses in Jones' name after an 11-month legal shutdown are mostly dead.
I'm glad someone has mentioned his name because I've seen a couple of these documentaries about the early days of the AIDS crisis and I have always wondered if or when did Bobby Reynolds pass away because it was amazing how well he was doing for that time, I think he was diagnosed with KS in '82 which I remember him saying how good the traditional medical care ie, chemo when many others couldn't cope with the side effects and most people back then only survived approx 2 years. He was still alive around '86. Does anyone know when he passed away?
I think it's nice you recognize and acknowledge him. So many guys appear in these documentaries and nobody remembers them. Their own families dis-own them. There's a documentary series on Netflix called History 101. The one on Aids is haunting. The one fellow named Michael, blonde with a little earring stayed with me. He was only 21. He looked so vulnerable. Everybody should be remembered
@@mickeymouse2able such an amount of courage and dignity and efficience... Incredible...impressive example for the whole humanity. These guys were heroes. Hope it will be recongnized as it should, after what people lived with covid, perhaps? Anyone crying not to je able to go to the mivie because of covid should think about what aids could be + public despise and hate. I still wonder how humans can be so brave, to fight on both sides: illness AND madness (and Wall street greed...). It gives me a little hope for the future.
At the end of the second gathering Cleve Jones called people to be the best human beings they could be: "We shall survive again. And we shall be the strongest and most gentle people on this earth." That sentiment, addressed to his largely gay audience, should be an inspirational call to action for ALL human beings. We have it within us to act honorably in every circumstance -- to be committed to act with courage and dignity and to show compassion toward others. // In our world today it seems that people have lost their way in the politics that have polarized people into conflict. And there is entirely too much attention given to escapist entertainment and meaningless distractions.
When I see or hear news about AIDS i can only think of the very young boy, Ryan White who has a blood disease but died of Aids when he was transfused with tainted blood, The people in power back then had been asking the gay community to quit donating blood because at the time aids was new and no one knew much about it but the gay community protested and even some said that the only way to get funding was to give it to the straight community, Many people died because of this. To me this was murder. The origins of aids came from patient one as he was labeled medical authorities, The guy was a flight attendant that went to Africa and they think, had sex with another male and then partied on Fire Island in NY. all those people who were there also died of aids. There also was a nurse whose body parts were put on ice after she died and the doctors could not identify the illness until the aids epidemic hit, She also had come in contact with a patient who had aids, I put this post out for your information only.
You are so misinformed, and your post is full of such BS that I almost think you are just trolling. Virtually the only thing you got correct in that comment was the boy's name: Ryan White. Please do some research on this subject if you wish to comment in the future because, to anyone with even a high school level understanding of the history of AIDS, you sound like an idiot.
@@Truename586 Speaking the truth is not "covering" for anyone. Everyone has a right to their own opinion, but someone spewing nonsensical and easily validated lies needs to be, and should be, challenged.
dude you're mental, gay men were banned from donating blood in 1983, why is it that they were openly giving infected blood to infect straight people instead of another possibility such as an infected straight person who had sex with a sex worker, had used an infected needle or had sex with another person who got infected, matter of fact, Ryan White could have also gotten HIV years prior from tainted blood and developed AIDS from there.
Everyone thought there was just gonnoreah and syphilis, that was just curable with some pills or a couple shots...I heard they would just lay there in the bath houses with a can of crisco beside em. Welcoming all takers...how irresponsible.
Sadly, whenever anyone tried to mention the risk(s), they were mocked and called old fashioned and homophobe. Of course, one doesn't need to be gay to get hiv, or even sexually promiscuous, heterosexuals have got it too.. many womennin Africa got infected by their cheating husbands..
this is the gay community that i identify with. not this madness today, back when we were normal and just wanted equality and live peaceful normal lives. and these men and women pioneered that.
It is surprising how these dudes acted surprised when shit hit the fan. Like come on dude, you knew there was bound to be some consequences to your actions...
I all for living and loving who you want, but damn, common sense would tell you to quit the asslammin, at least for the time being. If this had been the exact same thing but with straight people, they would have stopped screwin real quick!
The whole country acted surprised. The blood banks, for example, who largely had access to far more and far more timely information than the gay community did still dragged their feet responding for fiscal reasons. From another angle, the government starved the CDC of resources needed to detect the source of the outbreak, meaning it took years too long just to find out it was a sexually transmitted disease, and it was people in the gay community who had to campaign to get the funding to discern even this. And it was people in the gay community who had to put together the educational campaigns to raise the alarm and inform people as to how AIDS was spread, and these people were actively censored and even denied office space to rent as they attempted to do this. And I've not even scratched the surface of how much people outside the gay community went out of their way to make the situation worse. If you want to say "you reap what you sow," you better find a case in which people like you didn't set out to exacerbate the situation and didn't obstruct those attempting to address the situation.
I have a weakness for trans women...i need to watch this when i get the urge....even with prep i do not need any of this shit in my life....as well as all the other std s ......40 mins of sex is not that important in the long run
I'm sorry but if someone contracted HIV from consensual sex after the risk factors were clearly established, it was their own fault, whether man, woman, gay or straight
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@Oscar Hunter You are wrong. Nazi Germany with their system of oppression and death camps were merely a nursery comparing with Russian Soviet Union. And lgbt movement is probably the best investment of SU.
@@rickovery Except you are wrong. They were fighting to conquer the world and murder all who did want to be communists. This is just a Russian propaganda movie glorifying murderers and rapists from Red Army. Think about their endless victims...
I think maybe 721... might be commenting on a different video, because those comments aren't even relevant to the content of this video. Or maybe English isn't their first language...? This channel isn't captioned.
I have compassion, but it was more like 30 a night or a weekend every weekend. Most heterosexual don't have that many partners. It's horrific tye way t9yey died . This will happen again, it was syphilis before aids, and in the gay community, they have more open sex with many partners unfortunately. I wish there was no such thing as aids . Nobody should die like that, they're whole body turning into something unrecognizable it's terrible.
Patient o had sex with more than 3,000 men. 50 in one night new years eve. Even so I wish they didn't suffer so much. It wasn't quick and everybody shamed them
Thank you for posting all of these historical programs regarding AIDS. People think there is no longer a threat from AIDS, there is. Cleeve Jones, you sir, are simply amazing.
Aids is not a disease it is totally scammed.
Thank you for uploading this piece. A shout out to Randy Shilts for writing about AIDS when no one else would.
Cleve Jones is still alive and well to this day which is amazing. How I wonder, He is a great advocate.
That's awesome!
@@MitchGrooms Oh no :( I'm sorry to hear that. Thanks for letting me know.
@@MitchGrooms Cleve Jones is not dead.
@@hopefulagnostic336 that is what i said
@@MitchGrooms Maybe you were hacked. There's another comment from your account that says, in all caps, "He has died since I wrote that two years ago."
This heart-wrenching piece takes me back to that very year. Heart-wrenching and heartbreaking.
Anyone else watching this remember Garden Sullivan Hospital on Geary? I was a social worker there in the 90’s working with dying AIDS patients. It was so incredibly sad.
Laura .... today I am a DNP, but back in the late 1980s/early 1990s I worked the night shift as an LVN at Garden Sullivan out of Geary Street. I have, to this day, one profound memory of working there. It was 2 or 3AM and my patient was actively dying of AIDS. I hate that I forgot his name, but I remember him and my experince with him to this day. He was 23, I was 27 or 28. I also worked on the AIDS Unit on the 5th floor at Mount Zion (before it became UCSF). I will be 62 in April. I'M STILL HERE ... and negative (and I feel like the only one). So happy to see your post. Anthony
@@anthonydavid5121 omg!!! I lived in the city from 1992 to 2008 and it was the best years of my life being a medical social worker in San Francisco.
@@anthonydavid5121 I also worked for VNA remember the visiting nurse association. I got to do home visits in San Francisco. I got to see the inside of San Francisco. I met the most amazing patients and families. I am 57 now. I would love to connect with you. San Francisco is my heart and soul. I miss it every day. I live in Newport Beach now and work as a psychiatric social worker in Huntington Beach but San Francisco has my heart.
This is a great piece, good on Mike Wallace. This is current affairs at its most effective and revelatory.
Actually 2,000 men in San Francisco had died from the disease when this was made in early 1986. 2,000 men were gone in just one city. And by 1996 almost 35,000 men in San Francisco had died from the disease. California in total had about 90,000 deaths by 1996.
It is crazy. ....male sex drive is so powerful and dangerous.....all the deaths after they knew the risks....Russian roulette with 5 bullets in a six cylinder gun...
@@US_ARMY_25_INF._DIV. Yes.. but the culture in the 50s, 60s, and 70s was that Casual Sex(both heterosexual and homosexual)was a big part of our landscape and was one of things people did, to find pleasure, or relief from life's hardships. AIDS changed that but it took 5-10 years for a big shift to happen.
@@patr70 it was all anal sex deaths....it is almost impossible to get through oral play....I get it....but these men were still stupid and reckless....I was in the same boat due to being bisexual.....the one eyed monster has no conscience when it becomes angry...
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Thank You for posting
I worked with people out there in 83 and the men thought they had "amoebas". SO often I think back to them and wonder how many had it.
I grew up in SF and remember all of this happening. I was young enough to make wise choices by the time I became active sexually. I often think that if I was born just one year earlier, that I would have got infected and died. I had many older friends die and I miss them to this day.
Ray Sousa ❤️🙏🏽
I have a weakness for trans women...i need to watch this when i get the urge....even with prep i do not need any of this shit in my life....as well as all the other std s ......40 mins of sex is not that important in the long run
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@@US_ARMY_25_INF._DIV. 😳
@@US_ARMY_25_INF._DIV. there's no such thing as a trans woman. They're men, and your weakness is being gay, which is fine, but you sound delusional on how both sexuality and biology work.
Thank you very much for sharing, Rainbow History Project.
So many unknowns back then.
Today we know is not transmissible through french kissing UNLESS bleeding gums are involved. And we know anal intercourse is the highest risk activity because of the high permeability of the membranes of the rectum and anal canal sections of the large intestine.
It was known in the mid 1970's that anal sex was a highly efficient means of spreading viral infection. A pre-AIDS study of the way gay men in New York City acquired hepatitis confirmed this. In fact, before AIDS, hepatitis was in some quarters referred to as "gay plague". The unfortunate combination of denial of this fact among many in the gay community, especially in the early years of the epidemic, and longer lasting resistance in the wider community to funding public health research, education and condom distribution, often due to religious bigotry or fiscal conservatism, meant that precious time was lost when a simple, low cost solution was available that could have stemmed the spread of the disease shortly after it was identified, and spared countless lives and much suffering. Chillingly, I noticed that the recent response to Monkey pox looked disturbingly similar.
... and high viral loads in blood and semen.
Never ever stop marching!!!!
Isn't it Something how everything I've always been afraid of knocked at my door and claimed a place..? I'm so hurting deeply. I mean everything I've ever feared has happened to me even if not directly but so close to home.
I know what you mean.
30 something yrs later still no cure
It's gotten much better, and (maybe in the 3 years since you wrote that) a handful of people *have* gotten a cure or something very close to it. (They received a treatment that allowed them to quit their antivirals and, so far, maintain an undetectable viral load indefinitely.) Trouble is that this cure is typically more risk than it's worth. If a patient can be sustained on antivirals, they have a lower risk of death remaining on them than taking the cure unless they are in a small group of people with cancer who desperately need it anyway.
There's no money for big pharma in a cure. I would guess that a cure has been developed for many diseases, but the greed associated with pharmaceutical industries is so pervasive, that they would rather create treatments for profit over caring/curing for humanity.
Why would they eveer want to cure a disease? Too much to be made treating it.
I believe there is a cure but big pharma makes more money off the ridiculous amount of meds these people must take to stay alive also I don’t believe we don’t have cures for some cancers it’s all political and all about the money
Would love to have a beer with Cleve
Strange how his demeanor changed in his second public speech from his first, his first seemed much more dour and threatening.
We are deadly serious!! What a statement would come to pass..
Diane Feinstein, who has just died in the past week at the age of ninety.
"We are survivors. We shall survive again, and we shall be the strongest and most gentle people on this Earth."
--Cleve Jones
The sad part is I don't think we as a younger generation in the gay community are looking out for each other. Covid and Monkey Pox have taught me that.
and syphilis and gonorrhea.
Poor blighters in hospital beds, reduced to the status of living cadavers, clinging to a vain fleck of hope. The love of their partners, the tragic decline of many fine young men.
I once had sexual contact many years ago with a one night stand I found out later was hiv positive .For years I freaked out I had caught it ,how I didn’t I don’t know ,luck I guess .Thanks for posting this .Peace
I have a weakness for trans women...i need to watch this when i get the urge....even with prep i do not need any of this shit in my life....as well as all the other std s ......40 mins of sex is not that important in the long run
@@US_ARMY_25_INF._DIV. both just protect yourselves and you will be fine
I was with my husband for 5 years (married for 4) before he developed AIDS about a month ago and we found out he had been HIV positive the whole time I knew him. (He doesn't have that much of a history that would make you suspect it, by it looks like he either met someone who did or met someone who met someone who did.) I got tested and turned out negative. Was never infected during the whole time that I knew him. Turns out that it matters a lot what type of sex you have, especially if you're gay. If you're heterosexual, you're safer if you're the man, but in neither case is it a guarantee that you'll catch it, especially if their viral load is relatively low. Luck isn't all there is.
That writer who wrote Tales of the City, Armistead Maupin, says he once had a date with Rock Hudson. HOw would that make you feel?
I was born in 1969 and when aids was first coming out in the early 80s I’m so glad I wasn’t old enough to be Having sex with men I had a lot of education on it by 1986 when I was 17 years old and it scared me to be with anyone
Cleve Jones! OMG!
He's still alive when all the trusting innocent political gay men who went back to the bath houses in Jones' name after an 11-month legal shutdown are mostly dead.
Is it weird that I immediately recognized Bob Reynolds from the support group?
I'm glad someone has mentioned his name because I've seen a couple of these documentaries about the early days of the AIDS crisis and I have always wondered if or when did Bobby Reynolds pass away because it was amazing how well he was doing for that time, I think he was diagnosed with KS in '82 which I remember him saying how good the traditional medical care ie, chemo when many others couldn't cope with the side effects and most people back then only survived approx 2 years. He was still alive around '86. Does anyone know when he passed away?
I think it's nice you recognize and acknowledge him. So many guys appear in these documentaries and nobody remembers them. Their own families dis-own them. There's a documentary series on Netflix called History 101. The one on Aids is haunting. The one fellow named Michael, blonde with a little earring stayed with me. He was only 21. He looked so vulnerable. Everybody should be remembered
@@mickeymouse2able such an amount of courage and dignity and efficience... Incredible...impressive example for the whole humanity. These guys were heroes. Hope it will be recongnized as it should, after what people lived with covid, perhaps? Anyone crying not to je able to go to the mivie because of covid should think about what aids could be + public despise and hate. I still wonder how humans can be so brave, to fight on both sides: illness AND madness (and Wall street greed...). It gives me a little hope for the future.
@@stella6051 86
@@stella6051 87 sorry
At the end of the second gathering Cleve Jones called people to be the best human beings they could be: "We shall survive again. And we shall be the strongest and most gentle people on this earth." That sentiment, addressed to his largely gay audience, should be an inspirational call to action for ALL human beings. We have it within us to act honorably in every circumstance -- to be committed to act with courage and dignity and to show compassion toward others. // In our world today it seems that people have lost their way in the politics that have polarized people into conflict. And there is entirely too much attention given to escapist entertainment and meaningless distractions.
I would have gone back into the closet I think. I would have left SF and returned to Cabbageville.
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nice documentary
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I'm dealing with an issue and like aids Bk then I have no support now..
Russell died
Mephfine Lykwine how do you know?
@@Mr.Majestic77 he had aids.
If HaiV
It is a plague 😢
I read every comment made on this video. The utter ignorance is beyond, literally beyond human understanding. JFC ...WTF is worng with you people?
When I see or hear news about AIDS i can only think of the very young boy, Ryan White who has a blood disease but died of Aids when he was transfused with tainted blood, The people in power back then had been asking the gay community to quit donating blood because at the time aids was new and no one knew much about it but the gay community protested and even some said that the only way to get funding was to give it to the straight community, Many people died because of this. To me this was murder. The origins of aids came from patient one as he was labeled medical authorities, The guy was a flight attendant that went to Africa and they think, had sex with another male and then partied on Fire Island in NY. all those people who were there also died of aids. There also was a nurse whose body parts were put on ice after she died and the doctors could not identify the illness until the aids epidemic hit, She also had come in contact with a patient who had aids, I put this post out for your information only.
You are so misinformed, and your post is full of such BS that I almost think you are just trolling. Virtually the only thing you got correct in that comment was the boy's name: Ryan White. Please do some research on this subject if you wish to comment in the future because, to anyone with even a high school level understanding of the history of AIDS, you sound like an idiot.
@@crocodile1313stop trying to cover for the degenerates
@@Truename586 Speaking the truth is not "covering" for anyone. Everyone has a right to their own opinion, but someone spewing nonsensical and easily validated lies needs to be, and should be, challenged.
dude you're mental, gay men were banned from donating blood in 1983, why is it that they were openly giving infected blood to infect straight people instead of another possibility such as an infected straight person who had sex with a sex worker, had used an infected needle or had sex with another person who got infected, matter of fact, Ryan White could have also gotten HIV years prior from tainted blood and developed AIDS from there.
what do expect when you have no self control.
Everyone thought there was just gonnoreah and syphilis, that was just curable with some pills or a couple shots...I heard they would just lay there in the bath houses with a can of crisco beside em. Welcoming all takers...how irresponsible.
Sadly, whenever anyone tried to mention the risk(s), they were mocked and called old fashioned and homophobe.
Of course, one doesn't need to be gay to get hiv, or even sexually promiscuous, heterosexuals have got it too.. many womennin Africa got infected by their cheating husbands..
HOW FUN! Norman .... they didn't know. They didn't know until years after becoming infected.
Still do
this is the gay community that i identify with. not this madness today, back when we were normal and just wanted equality and live peaceful normal lives. and these men and women pioneered that.
Youwerenevernormal
H E L L O!!! Exactly
It is surprising how these dudes acted surprised when shit hit the fan. Like come on dude, you knew there was bound to be some consequences to your actions...
that kinda of thinking needs to stay in the 80s. grow up
@@tspfull it did stay in the 1980s, and that is why there are a million parallels between AIDS and Covid-19.
I all for living and loving who you want, but damn, common sense would tell you to quit the asslammin, at least for the time being. If this had been the exact same thing but with straight people, they would have stopped screwin real quick!
@@fenian123they are degenerate
The whole country acted surprised. The blood banks, for example, who largely had access to far more and far more timely information than the gay community did still dragged their feet responding for fiscal reasons. From another angle, the government starved the CDC of resources needed to detect the source of the outbreak, meaning it took years too long just to find out it was a sexually transmitted disease, and it was people in the gay community who had to campaign to get the funding to discern even this. And it was people in the gay community who had to put together the educational campaigns to raise the alarm and inform people as to how AIDS was spread, and these people were actively censored and even denied office space to rent as they attempted to do this.
And I've not even scratched the surface of how much people outside the gay community went out of their way to make the situation worse.
If you want to say "you reap what you sow," you better find a case in which people like you didn't set out to exacerbate the situation and didn't obstruct those attempting to address the situation.
I can’t imagine the loss of esteem gay men of this generation experienced. May God return their esteem upon entering the divine.
I have a weakness for trans women...i need to watch this when i get the urge....even with prep i do not need any of this shit in my life....as well as all the other std s ......40 mins of sex is not that important in the long run
Yuck
@@michaelbracken1714 yawn...
I'm sorry but if someone contracted HIV from consensual sex after the risk factors were clearly established, it was their own fault, whether man, woman, gay or straight
Glad I dont know you Tom.
Thanks for your nuanced argument and empathy!
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Hello from SF, and yes ... this is all true. Insane right?
They are like Naizs, night march with candles and flags, uniformed young muscles, hate everything different.
@Oscar Hunter You are wrong. Nazi Germany with their system of oppression and death camps were merely a nursery comparing with Russian Soviet Union. And lgbt movement is probably the best investment of SU.
Except they were fighting for their very lives, in the face of a society and government that didn't care whether or not they lived or died.
@@rickovery Except you are wrong. They were fighting to conquer the world and murder all who did want to be communists. This is just a Russian propaganda movie glorifying murderers and rapists from Red Army. Think about their endless victims...
@@7210690 I have no idea what you are talking about...nor do you.
I think maybe 721... might be commenting on a different video, because those comments aren't even relevant to the content of this video.
Or maybe English isn't their first language...? This channel isn't captioned.
I have zero compassion for people who schtoink 20-30 others and bitch about "they have to do something". Those can suck my hetero sausage.
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I have compassion, but it was more like 30 a night or a weekend every weekend. Most heterosexual don't have that many partners. It's horrific tye way t9yey died . This will happen again, it was syphilis before aids, and in the gay community, they have more open sex with many partners unfortunately. I wish there was no such thing as aids . Nobody should die like that, they're whole body turning into something unrecognizable it's terrible.
Patient o had sex with more than 3,000 men. 50 in one night new years eve. Even so I wish they didn't suffer so much. It wasn't quick and everybody shamed them