You know what i love the most...Juliani was not forcing English to fit in...and that's also another issue with classism in Kenya, thinking your articulate English makes you better than others who are not articulate.
Juliani is so real to himself even in the midst of people who dont quite relate, but its good that you all gave yourself an opportunity to see things like He did . He was a good guest for this conversation.
It's very easy to be idealistic about money when you've always had it/ never suffered poverty...not middle class, or even lower class, but actually below the poverty line...It is one of the MOST indignifying experiences you can have...Even family dynamics I don't think can be healthy in this environment...Domestic violence, child abuse(physical and sexual) all thrive here...There are some things you can't understand until you have been TRULY poor...
This conversation reminds me of Trevor Noah’s reflection of his upbringing in his book born a crime.. He says, “ Whilst my mother couldn't give me access to the world, she at least made sure to let me know it existed. A kid cannot dream of being an astronaut if he does not know about space.”
Juliani is very humble for the fits that he's accomplished, he was Bob Collymore's close friend, he has a very vast network, yaani ni msee mnoma tu yaani but you wouldn't know from first glance, that's what humility looks like kids .
Having heard Juliani speak on how he achieved and accomplished much without money reminds me of a book i came across that spoke in relation to this. The book read ‘If your consciousness is right, that is, if you have a good understanding of God as the loving Source of your boundless supply, you will always be able to demonstrate whatever money or goods you may require, wherever you are, or whatever your conditions may be.’
Great conversation. I can't get enough of it. I agree with Juliani on a lot of things. Just because it worked for us living a certain lifestyle doesn't mean it will work for our kids, we've not lived two lives so we wouldn't tell how we would have turned out if we lived a different live, we might be doing great now, but who knows we might have turned out even better if we grew differently. And besides, we grew in a different generation and the measure of turning out good now, might not be so tomorrow. My view on this is, we should not spoil out children yes, we should nurture them to be good humans and most importantly believe in themselves. But I totally disagree with making our children undergo suffering. Why should we want children growing to be adults with trauma? The idea of wanting your own child undergoing suffering might be a childhood trauma you'll dealing with. I would definitely want Juliani back. I like his thinking
I clicked on this because of Juliani(my big flex is that I can rap all his songs word for word)😂 Maybe you can have him on next time to talk about his artistry journey and especially his lyricism which shows the depth of his knowledge❤
I agree with Juliani. Private solutions for some of our structural social problems sound good but are unsustainable. You will fix the school infrastructure and next thing you hear teachers haven't been paid and are on a go-slow, the HM has misappropriated your funds, national exams have leaked or results cancelled etc etc. How will private funds fix that? Nice episode guys- we need a follow up!
I grew up in fluctuating wealth - briefly grew up in a small neighbourhood in Eldoret to going to one of the most expensive schools in Nairobi for A Levels and universities in the UK for Undergraduate and Masters. I'll admit, that I'm still disillusioned with the reality of how the average 25-year-old Kenyan lives (my age), I've always felt disconnected between us when I talk about the neighbourhood I live in and how I grew up. I can't relate to the culture and my Kiswahili is terrible which doesn't help at all (I never learnt in school but at home). But I want to understand, I volunteer in charities and donate what I have because I know from my upbringing - money comes and goes. This episode is so important because it sheds light on both realities. I'm only halfway through and I already feel greatly impacted by it
52:28 Charles threw in a very crucial point. Confidence is Key. a D student from group of schools is more confident than a B student from polling station school and can survive anywhere in the world cause group of schools instill confidence in kids
I won't lie, I was raised on riverside drive. Silver spoon, igcse, travelled abroad for uni at 16, Athens and London. The greatest joy for me is living in Machakos, quietly but comfortably 👌🏾. My own kids have gone to middle class schools apart from 1. The first born ... weh! Never again..having said that they were both in igcse schools south of Nairobi. Anyway enjoyed your conversation. New 46 yo subby 🎉😂
Usually I don't but I have never agreed with King Charles the way I have today. Even his examples are just spot on. Teaching your kids Empathy, Resilience, and Confidence is the absolute best thing you can do for them 💯 Loved Juliani on here!
Best episode to date. Juliani is so wise and spiritual. Charles, we speak the same language as I also attended Nairobi Primary and totally agree with you in so many aspects. All in all, I’ve learned so much from these two great men. Great job ladies! ❤
"Attach value to your character," said Charles. This is so powerful and very essential cause money will come & go for sure but who you remain, regardless of your social status sets you apart. Such enriching conversations, cheers ladies and gents!In true IRIP fashion ☺
'Learn to want what you have' only works in a society where everyone has access to a basic dignified, I'd even say comfortable, life, as a MINIMUM...otherwise it just turns into out-of-touch rich people trying to force/encourage poor people into contentment.
The Tiktok video reminded me of when someone said to me "welcome to my humble aboard" and the "humble aboard " was 5 bedrooms and 7 bathrooms, I haven't been able to recover from that statement to-date. This podcast is everything for me ya'll, the conversations week in week out I can't you guys, I'm in awe of your creativity keep doing this ❤. More flowers for Jules she looks a like a person who'd hold you down. Love ya'll from the 256. And the lesson from the tiktok is the importance of exposure, when I first watched a movie I went like ooh they shot this from a hotel coz the only big house I had seen was a hotel until I found out that people actually own homes the size of hotels.
I wanna comment on the Beyonce scenario and her privilege and success. For her, her parents played a huge role in creating a platform for her to become successful. They were really intentional about their daughter and helping her scale her talent. In many interviews Beyonce has mentioned how her father approached her singing career, the discipline he taught her. To date, we can see how much her mother supports her through words and actions. I think as future parents, we can take a few notes from that.
Finally at 1.13.20 mins the conversation comes home. Money, class is meaningless unless it serves people and has an eternal perspective. That's where wealthy people who are introspective eventually get to. Material value is relative - desire for it, minds and egos are insatiable. Life is also a wrap at some point ...and then so what? Mungu mbele 🙂
This conversation was so profound. Thank you❤️❤️There's so much more to learn from each of you and your perspectives. And yes bring Juliani back guy got lots of profound wisdom to share with us about all aspects of life.
Really enjoying these IRIP episodes and going deep on topics we don't usually hear people talking about. Very thought provoking! I would say that I didn't grow up with an understanding of having money. My parents grew up poor and by the time we were born, they were doing quite good for themselves but they raised us to think we didn't have money. Education was important to them so we went to good schools but they didn't have any desire to show off their wealth - my dad had the same car for over 20 years, we didn't do lavish holidays, no Playstations and Xboxes. Now as an adult, I appreciate this kind of upbringing. 2 things I remember from my childhood: 1. You don't get things just because other people have them - we were never allowed to say 'So and so has a bike so I also want one" My mum would say, enda kwa family yao basi 2. It was their money and not ours - They worked hard to earn it so it was theirs - wewe soma upate pesa zako😂.
I also believe you can teach resilience. Growing up as a sporty child and I had no idea how sports was preparing me to live my life today and endure the motions I’ve had to persevere over the years.
Juliani made me rewind to hear that couldn’t 😂😂😂😂 Looooooved this conversation so much!! So much to learn from all of you❤️❤️ Y’all four get back together some time!
Such a great episode! I've learned so much especially about Stoicism. Glad to finally put a face to the voice for Charles and an episode on Kenyan History would be so awesome. Also, looking good y'all. Capitalism is the pits though. I want to be someone's pet, but eating organic food. Juliani should definitely come back and talk about parenting.
Can we have Juliani back ❤ I have enjoyed listening to how his mind works, he is walking around with so much worth in his mind...lessons, nuggets of wisdom... He seems free from societal expectations and constriction's that are retrogressive or limiting ❤
This is such a great conversation guys. Great Job. On how we raise our kids; I'd like to say. Just raise kind-hearted empathetic children. Give them the best life you can. (Even materially) The world will break their hearts sooner or later sadly. You can't prepare them for everything.
Very related topic - I promise! Attach value to the things of eternal & intrinsic benefit; material things come & go but that should not change who you are as a person
This episode is so profound Ideally we are wired to attach money with our identity totally wrong it’s time we unlearn such things So much to learn from this channel Yall doing well
Talking of public solutions to public problems.... What Julz has said about a healthy in-between on school system matters... That's the idea behind CBC... The realization that the cut-throat 844 system just worked to exclude alternatively gifted people. It's a good start I hope we all work to see it through for the next generation
From mambo ya ‘done list’ to ‘learning to want what you already have’, quite a nourishing conversation this one has been. We hope they’ll both be back on the same set !
A proper follow up episode would be a couple or couples from different classes, I'd love to see and hear what united them despite the fact that they grew up worlds apart.
You know what i love the most...Juliani was not forcing English to fit in...and that's also another issue with classism in Kenya, thinking your articulate English makes you better than others who are not articulate.
Juliani is so real to himself even in the midst of people who dont quite relate, but its good that you all gave yourself an opportunity to see things like He did . He was a good guest for this conversation.
Juliani is so aligned wow! I want him to come back and speak about ' how to follow your authentic path' ❤
It's very easy to be idealistic about money when you've always had it/ never suffered poverty...not middle class, or even lower class, but actually below the poverty line...It is one of the MOST indignifying experiences you can have...Even family dynamics I don't think can be healthy in this environment...Domestic violence, child abuse(physical and sexual) all thrive here...There are some things you can't understand until you have been TRULY poor...
Fully agree. There is an understanding you can only get from experience.
I agree! Powerful comment
Very true
Yeah I was going to leave the same comment. Its easy to want what you have when you have a lot. Lol
Hio chemistry ya Jules and Charles ----AM HERE FOR IT!!!! We need a Jules and Charles Podcast
Bring Julian back to talk about relationships, I love how he thinks
Me too
Me three 😊
This conversation reminds me of Trevor Noah’s reflection of his upbringing in his book born a crime.. He says, “ Whilst my mother couldn't give me access to the world, she at least made sure to let me know it existed.
A kid cannot dream of being an astronaut if he does not know about space.”
Powerful
Juliani is very humble for the fits that he's accomplished, he was Bob Collymore's close friend, he has a very vast network, yaani ni msee mnoma tu yaani but you wouldn't know from first glance, that's what humility looks like kids .
My Guy! Julian is so deep! Very humble and yet so profound! Please bring him back!!!! His perspective on life is so great and refreshing.
Having heard Juliani speak on how he achieved and accomplished much without money reminds me of a book i came across that spoke in relation to this. The book read ‘If your consciousness is right, that is, if you have a good understanding of God as the loving Source of your boundless supply, you will always be able to demonstrate whatever money or goods you may require, wherever you are, or whatever your conditions may be.’
@Indo.254 what book is that? Kindly plug us
Suggestion guys... (Talking on my behalf and 7000 others 😂🤭) We'd like Miss Kihoro on the pod 🥺😭
Yeeeeeees yes
Great conversation. I can't get enough of it. I agree with Juliani on a lot of things. Just because it worked for us living a certain lifestyle doesn't mean it will work for our kids, we've not lived two lives so we wouldn't tell how we would have turned out if we lived a different live, we might be doing great now, but who knows we might have turned out even better if we grew differently. And besides, we grew in a different generation and the measure of turning out good now, might not be so tomorrow.
My view on this is, we should not spoil out children yes, we should nurture them to be good humans and most importantly believe in themselves. But I totally disagree with making our children undergo suffering. Why should we want children growing to be adults with trauma? The idea of wanting your own child undergoing suffering might be a childhood trauma you'll dealing with.
I would definitely want Juliani back. I like his thinking
I clicked on this because of Juliani(my big flex is that I can rap all his songs word for word)😂
Maybe you can have him on next time to talk about his artistry journey and especially his lyricism which shows the depth of his knowledge❤
I agree with Juliani. Private solutions for some of our structural social problems sound good but are unsustainable. You will fix the school infrastructure and next thing you hear teachers haven't been paid and are on a go-slow, the HM has misappropriated your funds, national exams have leaked or results cancelled etc etc. How will private funds fix that? Nice episode guys- we need a follow up!
‘Learn to want what you already have.’ So profound 🙌🏼🙌🏼
I don’t know if it’s just me but the chemistry with Jules and Charles 😍🥰
😂@chebet125
I knooow! I loved it!
I came here looking for this comment. I enjoyed watching them 🔥🔥🔥
Yees its cute to see😊
i saw
That Juliani guy is really smart. Wisdom 🔥🔥.
Please consider bringing Juliani back would want to know his mind on relationship from father, partner child perspective
I don't think I've ever listened to a podcast session and never wanted it to end this episode I'm going recommend a thousand times over...
🥹🥹 thanks for watching
Me too. I am just keeping it somewhere so I can watch it again when I have kids 😂
Indeed. Kenyan internet content is becoming wise and robust. I also shared video elsewhere
I thought I was the only one and today is my first time hearing Juliani speak dude has some much wisdom to offer
I grew up in fluctuating wealth - briefly grew up in a small neighbourhood in Eldoret to going to one of the most expensive schools in Nairobi for A Levels and universities in the UK for Undergraduate and Masters. I'll admit, that I'm still disillusioned with the reality of how the average 25-year-old Kenyan lives (my age), I've always felt disconnected between us when I talk about the neighbourhood I live in and how I grew up. I can't relate to the culture and my Kiswahili is terrible which doesn't help at all (I never learnt in school but at home). But I want to understand, I volunteer in charities and donate what I have because I know from my upbringing - money comes and goes. This episode is so important because it sheds light on both realities. I'm only halfway through and I already feel greatly impacted by it
52:28 Charles threw in a very crucial point. Confidence is Key. a D student from group of schools is more confident than a B student from polling station school and can survive anywhere in the world cause group of schools instill confidence in kids
"Reality check haibounce." -Juliani🔥🔥
Period…
Juliani is so authentic and i like his perspective. You should consider bringing him back.
Charles is a gentleman, really looked out for Juliani throughout this discourse.
I won't lie, I was raised on riverside drive. Silver spoon, igcse, travelled abroad for uni at 16, Athens and London. The greatest joy for me is living in Machakos, quietly but comfortably 👌🏾. My own kids have gone to middle class schools apart from 1. The first born ... weh! Never again..having said that they were both in igcse schools south of Nairobi. Anyway enjoyed your conversation. New 46 yo subby 🎉😂
Thanks for sharing!
Usually I don't but I have never agreed with King Charles the way I have today. Even his examples are just spot on. Teaching your kids Empathy, Resilience, and Confidence is the absolute best thing you can do for them 💯 Loved Juliani on here!
Juliani is quite witty. Interesting
Best episode to date. Juliani is so wise and spiritual. Charles, we speak the same language as I also attended Nairobi Primary and totally agree with you in so many aspects. All in all, I’ve learned so much from these two great men. Great job ladies! ❤
Bring Juliani and Charles back!This episode was so edifying 🤎🤎
Juliani nailed it. I would love to listen to him again and again and again 😊
"Attach value to your character," said Charles. This is so powerful and very essential cause money will come & go for sure but who you remain, regardless of your social status sets you apart. Such enriching conversations, cheers ladies and gents!In true IRIP fashion ☺
I agree with Juliani's nuggets, so profound
Heeee! we need Charles and Juliani back here again.
🧘🏾♀️🧘🏾♀️ manifesting abundance mentality
Jules looks so good in this episode.
“Going through the cycle to appreciate the beginning.” What a point!
The bars Juliani dropped here and there❤🙌
Right? 😅
Ya’ll keep spoiling us with THE BEST guests!!!!! Thank you for an amazing episode beautiful Jules & Sharon 👏🏾😍🌸
😍😍😍😍
'Learn to want what you have' only works in a society where everyone has access to a basic dignified, I'd even say comfortable, life, as a MINIMUM...otherwise it just turns into out-of-touch rich people trying to force/encourage poor people into contentment.
This episode was so damn good!!! Please bring back Juliani and King Charles!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Bring Juliani back.
This podcast is unique because it transcends a lot of social constructs e.g. gender, generations(a boomer and a gen z can listen) etc
This Charles guy. I am right with you on preparing a child for the path rather than the path for the child. 💥
Such a beautiful conversation! Shout out to Juliani & Charles!
Juliani giving me hope here.
Juliani was brilliant on this episode 👏🏿
The Tiktok video reminded me of when someone said to me "welcome to my humble aboard" and the "humble aboard " was 5 bedrooms and 7 bathrooms, I haven't been able to recover from that statement to-date.
This podcast is everything for me ya'll, the conversations week in week out I can't you guys, I'm in awe of your creativity keep doing this ❤. More flowers for Jules she looks a like a person who'd hold you down. Love ya'll from the 256. And the lesson from the tiktok is the importance of exposure, when I first watched a movie I went like ooh they shot this from a hotel coz the only big house I had seen was a hotel until I found out that people actually own homes the size of hotels.
😂😂😂😂😂😂aaaah
I wanna comment on the Beyonce scenario and her privilege and success. For her, her parents played a huge role in creating a platform for her to become successful. They were really intentional about their daughter and helping her scale her talent. In many interviews Beyonce has mentioned how her father approached her singing career, the discipline he taught her. To date, we can see how much her mother supports her through words and actions.
I think as future parents, we can take a few notes from that.
Finally at 1.13.20 mins the conversation comes home. Money, class is meaningless unless it serves people and has an eternal perspective. That's where wealthy people who are introspective eventually get to. Material value is relative - desire for it, minds and egos are insatiable. Life is also a wrap at some point ...and then so what? Mungu mbele 🙂
This conversation was so profound. Thank you❤️❤️There's so much more to learn from each of you and your perspectives. And yes bring Juliani back guy got lots of profound wisdom to share with us about all aspects of life.
Chilling in the ranch with four others😂
Of course we want Juliani back ❤ Please, please bring him back ❤
Relatable gems dropped it this episode. Juliani is such a vibe - #BringHimBack
Really enjoying these IRIP episodes and going deep on topics we don't usually hear people talking about. Very thought provoking!
I would say that I didn't grow up with an understanding of having money. My parents grew up poor and by the time we were born, they were doing quite good for themselves but they raised us to think we didn't have money. Education was important to them so we went to good schools but they didn't have any desire to show off their wealth - my dad had the same car for over 20 years, we didn't do lavish holidays, no Playstations and Xboxes. Now as an adult, I appreciate this kind of upbringing.
2 things I remember from my childhood:
1. You don't get things just because other people have them - we were never allowed to say 'So and so has a bike so I also want one" My mum would say, enda kwa family yao basi
2. It was their money and not ours - They worked hard to earn it so it was theirs - wewe soma upate pesa zako😂.
Please please bring them back with not time limits. Clear out your day.Muongee hadi mchoke. The rest leave to editing, this is just part one . 💓
😂😂😂 noted
Yessss😂😂😂 They all jelled so well! I’d watch 10 episodes of their conversation.
I also believe you can teach resilience. Growing up as a sporty child and I had no idea how sports was preparing me to live my life today and endure the motions I’ve had to persevere over the years.
Julia’s make up! 😍😍😍…pretty girl
She's so pretty ❤
Great discussion, Charles and Juliani! It’s refreshing to hear perspectives on how money and class shape our experiences in Kenya.
Beautiful conversation, I like how Juliani’s value is detached from money. I think that’s so cool and I want it for myself.
This episode has been really impactful. Thank you 👏👏👏👏
Juliani made me rewind to hear that couldn’t 😂😂😂😂
Looooooved this conversation so much!! So much to learn from all of you❤️❤️ Y’all four get back together some time!
This is such a good conversation that anyone wouldn't want to miss out listening to🙌🙌. Thank God i found it ....keep going guys
_Learn to want what you have_ is a manifestation hack ! Great conversation!
Such a great episode! I've learned so much especially about Stoicism. Glad to finally put a face to the voice for Charles and an episode on Kenyan History would be so awesome. Also, looking good y'all.
Capitalism is the pits though. I want to be someone's pet, but eating organic food. Juliani should definitely come back and talk about parenting.
Can we have Juliani back ❤ I have enjoyed listening to how his mind works, he is walking around with so much worth in his mind...lessons, nuggets of wisdom... He seems free from societal expectations and constriction's that are retrogressive or limiting ❤
Yes to everything Juliani said.
Aki Jules and Charles 🥰🥰🥰
I know right!! I thought I was the only one who noticed the chemistry, kwanza the way the hold hands every time they laugh... Aaaawww!! So cute.
When i started watching this episode i thought it was too long, then a few minutes into it, i realised it was too short❤
Great episode! Loved listening to Juliani
This is such a great conversation guys. Great Job. On how we raise our kids; I'd like to say. Just raise kind-hearted empathetic children. Give them the best life you can. (Even materially) The world will break their hearts sooner or later sadly. You can't prepare them for everything.
💯
Learn to want what you have. I wish we can live this. Life would be soooo much easier, less vicious, and more rich
Very related topic - I promise! Attach value to the things of eternal & intrinsic benefit; material things come & go but that should not change who you are as a person
This episode is so profound
Ideally we are wired to attach money with our identity totally wrong it’s time we unlearn such things
So much to learn from this channel
Yall doing well
This was such a rich conversation. Mind-opening for sure.
Loved this conversation so much. Very edifying and learnt so much across everyone’s opinion… Charles and Juliani brought so much wisdom.
Yeeeees please
I love the segments of what caught your attention lately....keep them up😊😊😊
@sharon Machira & Jules this was a wonderful episode I really enjoyed listening to you both plus Juliani and Charles❤🎉
Juliani is it!!!
Another great episode ❤❤❤❤❤Thank you guys.
Love this, I loved Juliani's perspectives
Talking of public solutions to public problems.... What Julz has said about a healthy in-between on school system matters... That's the idea behind CBC... The realization that the cut-throat 844 system just worked to exclude alternatively gifted people. It's a good start I hope we all work to see it through for the next generation
Juliani dropping gems
Totally agree
such a brilliant conversation , we are changing as a country and generation.
From mambo ya ‘done list’ to ‘learning to want what you already have’, quite a nourishing conversation this one has been.
We hope they’ll both be back on the same set !
Love Love Love this. Juliani🔥🔥🔥
Juliani be looking like a baby gurl crossing his legs like that 😂😂
He looks so adorable 😃😃
Why so effeminate Juliani
Let the man be .
I'm sure he is not aware he is crossing his legs.
He was comfortable, I love this for him. He is not constricted to societal expectations ❤. He is free
A proper follow up episode would be a couple or couples from different classes, I'd love to see and hear what united them despite the fact that they grew up worlds apart.
Hio part ya co'dent (couldn't) juliani anapenda juu ye usema God is not GOOD He is "GOODEST" heri kuvunja grammer kuliko His commandment
Absolutely loooooved this episode!!!!
As someone who schooled from Nairobi Primary, being a PATCHARIAN was the Rizz🔥
Very enlightening.
Loved it.❤
And the set is amazing 🤩
Thank you !!
IRIP Kudos👏 wonderful conversation. Sharon aki your sense of humour😂😂
What a beautiful conversation
Such a beautiful and insightful conversation! 🤌🏾
This was a wholesome conversation/content. Well done to the panel of diverse insights. Keep it up, guys. Warm regards from Kampala.
Thanks for tuning in 😊😊
Loved ,loved this episode!
wow Juliani....very interesting takes...would want to hear more
Loved this panel 👏🏾
know yourself first.know your worth.the rest comes second for real
"Us we went to Nyeri"😂😂😂😂😢
This is a powerful episode. Love it!
I like the chemistry between Jules and Charles.
I love it for Julia🤍