Tim made only two mistakes by the time he started getting bashed up; 1) Standing toe-to-toe with Bakhram and 2) Keeping his right hand down. Once he got whacked, he lost himself. However, maybe he can bounce back, but that will require 1) Watch your opponent's highlight reels 2) Never look past your next opponent 3) Improve foot and head movement 4) Keep your guard up and 5) Be done with the arrogance (I'm sure Bakhram rehearsed the left hook over and over again, at least to shut Tim's mouth.
6) Change your trainer and cornermen. They let you fight on with your head split open against Fundora and they waited too long to throw the towel in against Murtazaliev putting you at risk.
@@princejohn6560 how do any of us know what Tim's camp was up to? I agree that they believed in his recuperative powers too much and let it go on two punches to the head too many. But why would they tell him to stand toe-to-toe with that monster after the first hook to the jaw? Is it possible that he went out too fast and stayed in too close to the monster against their wishes? After his first loss, I believe he appeared too keen to come back with the win of all wins by blasting the tough Russian out of the ring, instead of pacing himself like he did against Mendoza. Just too immature to take his time, so either he matures real quick to bounce back to the top of the rankings or he crumbles psychologically and either gives the game up or keeps fighting as just a journeyman.
Great life lesson for Tim as a person..humble yourself brother...don't give a large and gesture throt cutting...you are not a "soul taker"....reflect brother...
A balance of skill and intelligence wins fights, not media hype. Tim change teams. This was a fight , not a family reunion. All that BS made you lose focus. It's your career not theirs. Time out , breath .Find YOUR centre and seriously sort out your mental game. Lastly never ever put down another fighter ( I think he's simple ), Clearly the wrong thing to say as it gave him fire. Be a professional and a gentleman at all times. Huge respect to you Tim. You will be Champ. The path to true success is longer and harder than you thought. Keep working . Big love.
Tim looked at the champ after that second knock down and all the rest like he was a 10 foot grizzly bear! The face expression was depleting and hard to watch. Tim needs to fire his team because they didn’t learn not 1 thing from the Fundora loss and actually made more and worse mistakes this time.
@@jasbadsirron6424yea he has a shoot but seeing what he did in this fight I don’t have much confidence in it happening. He took one good punch to face and immediately stepped back and touched the cut twice with a concerning facial expression. The ptsd is heavy on Tim’s mind and after this brutal beaten things will be much worse. ℹ honestly don’t think Tim ever thought anyone count do this to him!
@@moishele328he has the skills, but the defensive approach was all wrong. Styles make fights. There are some fighters (most for Timmys sake) you can bully and some you can’t - Bakhram being one of those. For starters, to think he can just walk forward with his hands down and trade against a guy who is taller, stronger and very heavy handed is naive & arrogant. How he fought Mendoza (high guard, in/out quickly, calculated pressure etc) is exactly how I’d like to see him fight world level opposition moving forwards. If a high guard with constant movement works for Usyk and Bivol then it’s surely good enough for Tim
No recovery strategy. No plan B. No use of the clinch, jab and fighting defensively. Actually low IQ performance. Believed his own hype. Great athlete.. but as Loma said to that greek bum , you can only jump as high as your hat. Tim is cooked trust me. He will be having nightmares about Bak and Fundora for a very long time. Sad because if he was managed properly and the team had patience and cherry picked when needed he could have had a successful career. Do you think Floyd, Canelo or Tank ever cared when accused of cherry picking? Nope. Its a business and the product is the fighter. Sometimes its better to duck and cherry pick to fight another day. Why you think FLOYD WAITED SO LONG TO FIGHT MANNY?...
Tim didn't lose the Fundora fight because he "wasn't good enough"; a cut he caused himself as you know. Murtazaliev however; he got bashed far too easily. He will come back though and I believe he will be far more humble and a much better fighter because of this. It's the best thing that could have happened to Tim. He isn't finished. He's just starting.
Facts man. Boxing is a business, just make the money and try not to get hit. Tim got hit badly, many times and now his big money fights is going to be limited. Shit, the average boxer fights until 35, he's already 30. This is horrible for his career. Everything you said is correct, no defensive skills, no plan B, no clinching. Just insane at the top level.
Any idea why Tim didn’t listen to his dad? Kostya specifically said that he needs to use his head, take his time and wear Bakhram down. He did the exact opposite and he paid the price. Also would like to know why No Limit pushed so hard for Tim to fight Lubin in Aus. Should have been state side and made that fight. Not take on Bakhram straight away.
@@mondardaman2973 You could argue that with no injury to Bakhram he may have fought a more predictable fight. Either way, No Limit should have fought Lubin first for IBF Eliminator in Dec and then go from there if they would have beat Lubin. What a disaster.
100 per cent keep kostya far away in russia, tim's daddy issues wrecked this fight for him, he was trying to prove something instead of being his usual calculating cool self
Tim is not a world class fighter he’s been over hyped in a small pond in OZ because of his surname . No coming back from a flogging back to fighting bums like zeraffa what a joke . Cash cow PPV for $79 no thanks
You can't trash Tim record. He's a young guy that has fought and beat some very good fighters. He had a fat head and was looking past his opponent. He'll learn from this and move forward. @@beamtweez1210
I like Tim, he's a warrior who had the ambition/belief that he was the best & tried to prove it. BUT the harsh reality is he was very overrated. His best win is Brian Mendoza & I got A LOT of heat from angry Tszyu fans because I originally scored that fight a draw (On rewatch I had it 115-113 Tszyu & still feel that a draw was not an impossible score) The Fundora loss was circumstantial due to the cut/vision loss. Murtazaliev dispatched him in a 2.5 round masterclass demolition job. I didn't rate him amongst the best when he was in full health (Post Mendoza win) + It's possible that the beatings sustained in the Fundora loss (His team should'nt have sent him out for RD4 for the NC) and Murtazaliev have ruined him. I wish him all the best & will be pleasantly surprised if he becomes a world champion again but I very much doubt it. 🤷♂🥊💯
@@markmooroolbark252 Right back at you pal. The average fan scorecard is 115-113 Tszyu (See boxrec & fight-score) Smashing someone from pillar to post usually includes knockdowns OR a wide score of 118+ 🤷♂
Having zero clue about Boxing has caused this. Blocking out and not supporting other Aussie boxers has given them nothing now. Paro, Jai and teams would be looking and laughing right now. Not at Tim but management and promoters. You put too much on his plate because of your own pockets. And because of the millions have gone
Matt Rose is all concerned about his boy now, who had to go to hospital to be checked over. The corner wasn't too concerned during the fight if the time it took to throw the towel in is any indicator. Tim who was obviously hurt and in trouble to anyone who knows anything about the fight game was poorly handled by his corner. The fight should have been stopped earlier by the ref or ringside doctor, the fact that they didn't and neither did hid corner shows incompetence all round.
We're you saying that before the fight? The Gypsy King and AJ have suffered humiliating defeats. Was that due to their support team too or just the nature of a brutal sport? Stop delighting in the defeat.
Tim's style is only effective against fighters who are not as strong as he is. He has no ducking and weaving. He has a loose poor guard. He doesn't know when to clinch tight. He didn't control distance. He just stood there. Like his old man used to do. Tim, if you see this brother, head to Mexico and work with Canelo and Eddy Raynoso.
When I was watching I was thinking get on your toes and move left right jab double jab till ya head clears, and to be honest I don't know if he can do that.
Canelo and Eddy Reynoso are a great team to recommend, I said Robert Garcia. Problem is, Tim is 30; is it too late to correct bad habits? Still, better late then never, as he probably has 5 years left in his boxing career. I'm sure the Canelo team isn't cheap. Who knows.
It's a shame Tszyu went from yelling "Whats my MF name?" in response to the disrespect established fighters had displayed towards him, to being guilty of displaying that exact same disrespect towards his own opponents.
No doubt bak was too strong for Tim, but I agree with the many who believe Tim's corner are at fault as well. They let him fight on in the fundora fight which was stupid, and most probably didn't have any strategy coming into this fight other than "Tim you are going to steamroll this guy"
Really bad team around him,the fondora fight showed that,then on a comeback fight goes in with a monster like bukram,ever heard of a warm up fight?your team is surposed to guide your fighter to wins ,not guide you to a two loses
Repeated head blows like that are a permanent injury. A trip to the hospital and a bit of time off won’t fix what’s been done. The effects may be slight but I expect ongoing. They may be masked. This is not to be confused with recovery. I did a university course in brain injury after my wife’s car crash. More concussions on top of that would be catastrophic for Tim.
Murtazaliev just made Tim look like a tough man competitor ... the skill difference really was obvious not to mention the size difference taller , longer reach , greater power yeah it was a beat down..
Nikita is humble , Tim is not, he said "I'm believe i am best at 154" " i think he is stupid" " he is a stand aside fighter" and the cut throat gesture on weigh in, He lost his wining record, a psychological nightmare, i think he wanted to be a hero, but should have stopped he probably was winning at the time anyway, then to comeback against a knockout artist and disrespect him , don't worry about his corner or management it was Tim who threw the stones . Sad way to go , the fact his dad was there was probably one of the biggest problems sometimes they just get in the way and things go pear shaped. Zerafa may well beat him as his confidence will be at an all time low, as i said Nikita is humble and a gentleman really Tim should take note.
The comments on here blaming No Limit and taking joy in Tim’s loss is a truly sad example of the lowest form of humanity. Support the fighter, build people up not knock them down. And how promoters can get blame is beyond the pale.
@@anthonya7066 not blaming the fact that everyone thought this was an easy win for Tim, and yes I do feel for him but sht talking about the other guy (look how Humble and Stoich BAKRAM was/is) no need to call someone a Side Line Fighter like Tim did, or comment about what he’s been eating, IMO the BETTER MAN who Deserved to win WON. 🥇
@@beamtweez1210 Agree mate, better man won and Tim only got himself to blame. He overlooked and disrespected his opponent, and as a consequence life humbled him. No way that was the game plan from the team, he appeared to be intent on just making some statement to America/PBC and planning next year before this fight even happened. We all know Tim does not fight like this, he downloads data and is cautious for the first 3 rounds and then applies the pressure. He got ahead of himself, and Spence and Crawford both said as such in their tweets. Long long road back, it is possible and has been done in past, but it is very rare for that to occur.
Some time ago i saw Tim in Thailand working with his dad, i thought ok but why change something that's working . Did all this Kosta thing blow up in Tim's face? Was the head cut living rent free in his head for 7 months? Did his old man turning up at the 11th hour make him lose focus? Not having a plan B , and clinching or working a jab hurt real bad as did taking old mate lightly..I think Tim needs a big holiday and ask himself is my current management and team a good fit moving forward? I think not..
Have a listen to the key board warriors..... Tim's basically lost one fight ... Got caught... but it was enough to loose him the fight . It was over from that point .... Shit happens .... Less go Timmy........on ya feet champ....
After re watching the fight, I really don’t know how you win against a fighter like bakhram , Just doesn’t seem like he can be hurt.. and obviously quite awkward
Aussie here and I'm gutted. But where was dad? I saw the look on Tim's face after the second knock down and saw one of fear and confusion. He knows his son and would have picked it. Screw out entertainment and "fighting pride" and pull him out there. I hope Tim is well
He needs to tighten his defence.Not just defending while the opponet is punching but defending as he is throwing.By not leaving gaps,example when Tim went for the left rip to the body he telegraphed it Bakhram saw it went left hook counter over the top.Tim needs to set up the left rip instead of just launching it as the 1st punch.The left rip should be the 2nd or 3rd punch and better when its set up so they cant see it or counter it.
Wow, there are times when you don't need enemies because loyalty seems to be out the window. It's embarrassing that some of you could be so cruel. Some of you should quit being RUclips's so-called commentators and observers with no experience, dignity, or sportsmanship! Tim came from a loss from an unfortunate cut to a bloody head vein that alone can cause someone to experience PTSD! I suggest that you Watch the fight again! If some of you understand what you are looking at during a boxing match you would have noticed early on that Tim was having a difficult time with flashbacks and worrying about if the cut opened when he thought it was bleeding. I'm sure many here don't care but wait until something life-changing such as PTSD or a traumatizing experience comes your way. In the end, we are all human with feelings, emotions, and dreams. So, You better hope people are kinder and loyal to you and they don't criticize you so harshly or humiliate your name! And there’s nothing wrong with the family reunion. It’s a beautiful thing when family is there for one another and he most definitely needs family this time. !!
I don’t get why people are hating on No limit. Tim is in this position solely on him. Had he beaten Fundora he still would have taken this fight and Bakhram would have 3 belts. Tim met his match and let’s be honest he fought a couple of washed fighters and Mendoza is probably the best he’s beaten. Tim is on nobody’s radar now. He’s got a heck of a lot of work to do to get back into the top 5 if not 10 now. Probably 2 years before he gets a shot at another belt and by then his opponents are going to be sharper and stronger.
Hope he got a MRI as he needs one also time to retire,To come back from this and fight another contender in USA forget it his time is done time to smell the roses now Tim retire.
No head movement from Tim was his Mistake. A moving target is harder to hit and he kept dropping his Hands. Same mistake that Mike Tyson did when he got older. From a Aitutaki Cook Islander.
Tim needs to trim the fat off the top for a start. How many hangers on do you need? He has way too many snakes hanging around with their hands out. Im surprised Angelo Hyder hasnt tried to snake his way in there to be honest.
Needs to get rid of the money mungers out of camp ,get his dad to.train him the old way ,much respect to tim he's done us Aussies proud ,not an easy sport 👍
The only way for Tim to make it as a top ranked fighter is to leave Australia train with the likes Vasiliy Lomachenko,Oleksandr Usyk, Bivol, Artur Beterbiev and that goes for Nikita.
Once you get yourself together Tim id suggest a couple things ,1st SACK your entire team ,kick that manager to the kerb and have a chat with Turki and explain to hes excellency that youve had terrible management and perhaps he might let you fight over in Suadi Arabia ,harsh i know but mate your surrounded yourself with YES men and hanger ons
Bakram is undefeated and the IBF World Champ for a reason, Charlo also avoided him and paid him step aside money to duck him. You don’t go from a loss to Fundora straight into a massive big puncher like Bakram. Seriously who is guiding Tim? He should have had one or two tune up fights first.
this was a far far bigger beating then what we saw with garcia vs haney and completely unexpected, tim has had his flaws fighting for a while now. just thought they were aware of this. if Tim remained boxing rather than trying to completely go toe to toe with a world champion you shrugged off as if he was nothing.
Timdawg needs to have a more measured approach to different fighters and watch what he says before fights. Love Tim, just don't like this get in there and blast away/ seek and destroy style. Maybe needs to be a more quietly and soft spoken assassin like his Dad. Maybe a win over bohachuk would get him back into contention, and that ain't no easy task.
Australia? i thought Tim was moving to Vegas to establish himself as a pro Fighter? after that complete mess however i understand Tim going back to fighting trash to refuel his ego.
TIM NEEDS TO REST FOR AT LEAST ONE YEAR TO RETHINK ABOUT THE FUTURE AND TO TAKE A LONG REST OR ATLEAST HE NEEDS ONE CONFIDENCE BUILDING FIGHT IN AUSTRALIA
Just think they wanted us to stump up $70 for the fight. What a rip off. I'd be demanding my money back after that so called "performance". Tszyu ain't worth watching for that kind of coin, not even close.
Tim’s team are completely useless . Anyway it’s kind of late for all that , personally speaking Tim spirit is broken which will take a lot to build up again . As the saying goes , “Never count your chickens before they hatch “. Hopefully Nikita learns from all this .
I wonder how the rose boys woke up this morning. Im guessing worse than tim. They must have lost a packet last night on that promotion and their only cash cow is finished.
TIM HAS THE WORST TEAM EVER-EXTREMELY ARROGANT GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS. Tim shouldn't have taken that fight. Bakhram is Russian, and you can't face an undefeated fighter like him right after a devastating loss. Tim's team is pushing him forward too quickly, and it's reckless. They should have stopped the fight after the cut he sustained against Fundora, but they didn't. Now, they've thrown him into the lion's den despite any psychological issues and concerns about how his cut would hold up. They are deluded; Tim is a human, not the Terminator. They've also fumbled his opportunities with Riyadh Season. 😔🤦🏻♂️
I still believe Tim has what it takes to be a world champion and beat Bakhram. My point's as an avid fan ... Lolz 1/ Hire a new trainer who will teach Tim how to defend himself ... Clinching, Holding, Move his head, knees bent and duck and weave ... 2/ Hire a new team ... Protect the fighter, loyalty only goes so far and blind loyalty just won't cut it at this level of boxing. Tim doesn't need "Yes Men" he needs leaders who will do and say what must be done to win the long game if Tim wants to compete at this level he must be teachable willing to listen and to learn. 3/ Never underestimate his opponents thinking he's figured it all out and it's a sure victory before the fight has begun. Study his opponents before a fight, dig up the dirt like in this case and do his research on his opponent. Explore and discover his opponents weaknesses and strengths before his training begins so he knows how to prepare for the fight. Move away from Australia for a period like Thailand for example to restore his mind and his body. Hahaha ... I know, I know but hey some lessons can be learned even from boxing films. Watch all the Rocky films from scratch they have dozens of life lessons thread throughout the whole franchise.
@@UtopiaBlue68 The Rocky movies are a great entertainment value. But I wouldn't base any personal life lessons on them. I think you're spot on with the rest. Most of us that have participated in any contact sport or life for that matter. Know Underestimating a opponent or adversary or just looking past the task in front of you can get get you beat down.
@beamtweez1210yeah I think Bakhram's upbringing, training regimens and amateur/professional pedigree has created a gulf too large for Tszyu to overcome
@@clancyyoung9994Hahaha .... I get where you're coming from but let's evaluate some lessons from the Rocky franchise ... 1/ Rocky 4 ... The Russian with incredible strength and has plenty of pedigree as an Amateur. Rocky knew near to nothing about Drago's history or fighting style and ability and sadly found out the hard way. 2/ Rocky lost his edge his ability to work out a fighter and tried to out slug Clubber Lang and Drago instead of using purposeful strategy. 3/ Tim was not focused having his family arrive two days before the fight. I think his family should have arrived at least 1 - 2 weeks out from his fight so all the emotions he was experiencing with his family were laid aside and he was focused on the job ahead. 4/Fight selection .... Mickey was there to protect Rocky from himself and to call out when Rocky was making a hasty decision. "He'll kill you within 2 rounds, you can't win Rock". I've had 10 title defences ... they were hand picked ... they were good fighters but they weren't like this man he'll knock you into tomorrow Rock. 5/ Appolo:- You lost that fight for all the wrong reasons, you got to go back to the beginning go back to basics ... when you fought me you had the eye of the tiger ...
Tim never built Australian boxing, he’s failed in America twice now, if anyone has built Australian boxing and brought the big fights down under its one man & that’s George Kambosos Jnr
I think he will have mental problems for a while after a bashing like he got he should quit now if he gets another flogging like that he will have big problems i feel sorry for him but from the minute I payed eyes on him when he enter the I just thought something was not right with him but that is only my opinion
Maby chips and pizza diet and get off social media for a start, go back to Australia and fight ubba drivers and no names, give the big boys a rest for awhile
Blah blah. Was it basic when Tim knocked out world ranked Mexicans and Americans? How about our current light heavy weight world champ? Liam Wilson knocked out a Mexican legend before a corrupt referee stole his belt in front of the world.
He has to come back every one nos Tim can fight just wasn't hungry enough to handle what was coming get his mind right again and come back with the eye of a tiger all good fighters have bad days he Tim will get his shit together don't worry about that every body out there
Pack of greedy scavengers are the no limit boys. How dare they charge $69.95 for the worst card in the history of PPV. At least we can expect Tim’s next fight to be not a cent more than $39.95, his value has been destroyed. I definitely won’t be paying for another fight of no limit boxing, because they have shown their hand on just how greedy they are without the care of their fighters.
Tim should "NEVER" be ashamed of what happened, 2 losses doesn't make you a failure, after all there are only 2 boxers in Boxing history at any weight that have a perfect record, they are ---TERENCE CRAWFORD & ROCKY MARCIANO..This is a setback for Tim, but it's only the beginning of a great career...
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Tim made only two mistakes by the time he started getting bashed up; 1) Standing toe-to-toe with Bakhram and 2) Keeping his right hand down. Once he got whacked, he lost himself. However, maybe he can bounce back, but that will require 1) Watch your opponent's highlight reels 2) Never look past your next opponent 3) Improve foot and head movement 4) Keep your guard up and 5) Be done with the arrogance (I'm sure Bakhram rehearsed the left hook over and over again, at least to shut Tim's mouth.
bro thank you for mentioning this, i'm a tim tszyu supporter and said everything you just did basically.
6) Change your trainer and cornermen. They let you fight on with your head split open against Fundora and they waited too long to throw the towel in against Murtazaliev putting you at risk.
@@princejohn6560 mate thumbs up to your comment. Tim was talking too much crap, again you have to look at the team around him. Changes are needed.
@@princejohn6560 how do any of us know what Tim's camp was up to? I agree that they believed in his recuperative powers too much and let it go on two punches to the head too many. But why would they tell him to stand toe-to-toe with that monster after the first hook to the jaw? Is it possible that he went out too fast and stayed in too close to the monster against their wishes? After his first loss, I believe he appeared too keen to come back with the win of all wins by blasting the tough Russian out of the ring, instead of pacing himself like he did against Mendoza. Just too immature to take his time, so either he matures real quick to bounce back to the top of the rankings or he crumbles psychologically and either gives the game up or keeps fighting as just a journeyman.
Great life lesson for Tim as a person..humble yourself brother...don't give a large and gesture throt cutting...you are not a "soul taker"....reflect brother...
A balance of skill and intelligence wins fights, not media hype. Tim change teams. This was a fight , not a family reunion. All that BS made you lose focus. It's your career not theirs. Time out , breath .Find YOUR centre and seriously sort out your mental game. Lastly never ever put down another fighter ( I think he's simple ), Clearly the wrong thing to say as it gave him fire. Be a professional and a gentleman at all times. Huge respect to you Tim. You will be Champ. The path to true success is longer and harder than you thought. Keep working . Big love.
Tim looked at the champ after that second knock down and all the rest like he was a 10 foot grizzly bear! The face expression was depleting and hard to watch. Tim needs to fire his team because they didn’t learn not 1 thing from the Fundora loss and actually made more and worse mistakes this time.
They listen to Tim most of the time. The man needed to be humbled. Now he has the chance to rise from the ashes and become great.
💯% Back to Fighting Local cans now
@@jasbadsirron6424yea he has a shoot but seeing what he did in this fight I don’t have much confidence in it happening. He took one good punch to face and immediately stepped back and touched the cut twice with a concerning facial expression. The ptsd is heavy on Tim’s mind and after this brutal beaten things will be much worse. ℹ honestly don’t think Tim ever thought anyone count do this to him!
@@gypsyman1939 Motive to spend some time on that Soviet style defense. Maybe he can work some with Bivol ??
@@moishele328he has the skills, but the defensive approach was all wrong. Styles make fights. There are some fighters (most for Timmys sake) you can bully and some you can’t - Bakhram being one of those. For starters, to think he can just walk forward with his hands down and trade against a guy who is taller, stronger and very heavy handed is naive & arrogant. How he fought Mendoza (high guard, in/out quickly, calculated pressure etc) is exactly how I’d like to see him fight world level opposition moving forwards. If a high guard with constant movement works for Usyk and Bivol then it’s surely good enough for Tim
No recovery strategy. No plan B. No use of the clinch, jab and fighting defensively. Actually low IQ performance. Believed his own hype. Great athlete.. but as Loma said to that greek bum , you can only jump as high as your hat. Tim is cooked trust me. He will be having nightmares about Bak and Fundora for a very long time. Sad because if he was managed properly and the team had patience and cherry picked when needed he could have had a successful career. Do you think Floyd, Canelo or Tank ever cared when accused of cherry picking? Nope. Its a business and the product is the fighter. Sometimes its better to duck and cherry pick to fight another day. Why you think FLOYD WAITED SO LONG TO FIGHT MANNY?...
And what looks like..a team full of yes men.. except for his dad (who came in 2 days before the fight and said don't get hit).
That Side line boxer comment live to Bak will Haunt him forever
Tim didn't lose the Fundora fight because he "wasn't good enough"; a cut he caused himself as you know. Murtazaliev however; he got bashed far too easily. He will come back though and I believe he will be far more humble and a much better fighter because of this. It's the best thing that could have happened to Tim. He isn't finished. He's just starting.
That “greek bum” made about 20 mill from his limited boxing ability so far .. not too shabby
Facts man. Boxing is a business, just make the money and try not to get hit. Tim got hit badly, many times and now his big money fights is going to be limited. Shit, the average boxer fights until 35, he's already 30. This is horrible for his career.
Everything you said is correct, no defensive skills, no plan B, no clinching. Just insane at the top level.
Any idea why Tim didn’t listen to his dad? Kostya specifically said that he needs to use his head, take his time and wear Bakhram down. He did the exact opposite and he paid the price. Also would like to know why No Limit pushed so hard for Tim to fight Lubin in Aus. Should have been state side and made that fight. Not take on Bakhram straight away.
He would have lost either way, the guy was fighting with one hand, just too good
@@mondardaman2973 You could argue that with no injury to Bakhram he may have fought a more predictable fight. Either way, No Limit should have fought Lubin first for IBF Eliminator in Dec and then go from there if they would have beat Lubin. What a disaster.
Needs to get rid of no limit for starters
💯% I Agree. That team fucked up by taking this fight so soon after Fundora
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They helped get him to where he is today,loyalty is priceless
No limit have done nothing wrong here it’s Tim’s management team and coach
No limit have made Tim a bag and a half
100% get over to dad and stay with him simple that goes for Nikita as well
100 per cent keep kostya far away in russia, tim's daddy issues wrecked this fight for him, he was trying to prove something instead of being his usual calculating cool self
@@bubbaluv6487the Excuses are Phenomenal, he fought a REAL FIGHTER and LOST. He didn’t just lose He got Pumped
Tim is not a world class fighter he’s been over hyped in a small pond in OZ because of his surname . No coming back from a flogging back to fighting bums like zeraffa what a joke . Cash cow PPV for $79 no thanks
You can't trash Tim record. He's a young guy that has fought and beat some very good fighters. He had a fat head and was looking past his opponent. He'll learn from this and move forward. @@beamtweez1210
@@bubbaluv6487what ruined it is that he can’t fight at world class level
I like Tim, he's a warrior who had the ambition/belief that he was the best & tried to prove it.
BUT the harsh reality is he was very overrated. His best win is Brian Mendoza & I got A LOT of heat from angry Tszyu fans because I originally scored that fight a draw (On rewatch I had it 115-113 Tszyu & still feel that a draw was not an impossible score) The Fundora loss was circumstantial due to the cut/vision loss. Murtazaliev dispatched him in a 2.5 round masterclass demolition job. I didn't rate him amongst the best when he was in full health (Post Mendoza win) + It's possible that the beatings sustained in the Fundora loss (His team should'nt have sent him out for RD4 for the NC) and Murtazaliev have ruined him. I wish him all the best & will be pleasantly surprised if he becomes a world champion again but I very much doubt it. 🤷♂🥊💯
Ok….nobody cares
A draw? Thank Christ you're not a judge. He smashed Mendoza from pillar to post.
@@kalencwil3924 Why are you replying then? 🥴
@@markmooroolbark252 Right back at you pal. The average fan scorecard is 115-113 Tszyu (See boxrec & fight-score)
Smashing someone from pillar to post usually includes knockdowns OR a wide score of 118+ 🤷♂
@@LukeFury1988 bcoz nobody cares about you
The Rose’s Cash Cow is Over😂
They’ll milk $60 Nikita fights for another couple years.
Yep that's all that's running through his head right now. Stick to managing rugby league.
Maybe another cash grab tim vs zerafa
He’ll try drag gallen back in for cash 😂
Having zero clue about Boxing has caused this. Blocking out and not supporting other Aussie boxers has given them nothing now. Paro, Jai and teams would be looking and laughing right now. Not at Tim but management and promoters. You put too much on his plate because of your own pockets. And because of the millions have gone
Matt Rose is all concerned about his boy now, who had to go to hospital to be checked over. The corner wasn't too concerned during the fight if the time it took to throw the towel in is any indicator. Tim who was obviously hurt and in trouble to anyone who knows anything about the fight game was poorly handled by his corner. The fight should have been stopped earlier by the ref or ringside doctor, the fact that they didn't and neither did hid corner shows incompetence all round.
Agree but at that level unfortunately the show must go on
Murtazaliev went smash, smash, SMASH!!! ;)
Tim needs to dump these small time amateur jokes of promoters and trainers ASAP and go train in Russia
We're you saying that before the fight? The Gypsy King and AJ have suffered humiliating defeats. Was that due to their support team too or just the nature of a brutal sport? Stop delighting in the defeat.
@@markmooroolbark252 I’ve been saying it for years. no-ones delighting in this.. get a clue champ
Tim's style is only effective against fighters who are not as strong as he is. He has no ducking and weaving. He has a loose poor guard. He doesn't know when to clinch tight. He didn't control distance. He just stood there. Like his old man used to do.
Tim, if you see this brother, head to Mexico and work with Canelo and Eddy Raynoso.
Lmao, Kostya was on a completely different level to Tim. Agree with the rest of what you said,but that comparison is ridiculous.
When I was watching I was thinking get on your toes and move left right jab double jab till ya head clears, and to be honest I don't know if he can do that.
Canelo and Eddy Reynoso are a great team to recommend, I said Robert Garcia. Problem is, Tim is 30; is it too late to correct bad habits? Still, better late then never, as he probably has 5 years left in his boxing career.
I'm sure the Canelo team isn't cheap. Who knows.
At least Kostya had a JAB!!
Agreed. He needs to tighten up his defense and perfect the fundamentals
We are with you Tim win or loss
To do what you do is truly inspiring, keep fighting mate
It's a shame Tszyu went from yelling "Whats my MF name?" in response to the disrespect established fighters had displayed towards him, to being guilty of displaying that exact same disrespect towards his own opponents.
No doubt bak was too strong for Tim, but I agree with the many who believe Tim's corner are at fault as well.
They let him fight on in the fundora fight which was stupid, and most probably didn't have any strategy coming into this fight other than "Tim you are going to steamroll this guy"
Really bad team around him,the fondora fight showed that,then on a comeback fight goes in with a monster like bukram,ever heard of a warm up fight?your team is surposed to guide your fighter to wins ,not guide you to a two loses
It's Tim's attitude of being over confident and not respecting his appointments ' is what caused him to get caught the way he did.
Repeated head blows like that are a permanent injury. A trip to the hospital and a bit of time off won’t fix what’s been done. The effects may be slight but I expect ongoing. They may be masked. This is not to be confused with recovery. I did a university course in brain injury after my wife’s car crash. More concussions on top of that would be catastrophic for Tim.
Murtazaliev just made Tim look like a tough man competitor ... the skill difference really was obvious not to mention the size difference taller , longer reach , greater power yeah it was a beat down..
Nikita is humble , Tim is not, he said "I'm believe i am best at 154" " i think he is stupid" " he is a stand aside fighter" and the cut throat gesture on weigh in, He lost his wining record, a psychological nightmare, i think he wanted to be a hero, but should have stopped he probably was winning at the time anyway, then to comeback against a knockout artist and disrespect him , don't worry about his corner or management it was Tim who threw the stones . Sad way to go , the fact his dad was there was probably one of the biggest problems sometimes they just get in the way and things go pear shaped. Zerafa may well beat him as his confidence will be at an all time low, as i said Nikita is humble and a gentleman really Tim should take note.
piss no limit off. the fact he was interviewed in that state is a disgrace
These blokes should stick to winning amateur rugby league tournaments. Leave the real stuff to Eddie Hearn etc.
The comments on here blaming No Limit and taking joy in Tim’s loss is a truly sad example of the lowest form of humanity. Support the fighter, build people up not knock them down. And how promoters can get blame is beyond the pale.
A bit naive of you.
@@anthonya7066 not blaming the fact that everyone thought this was an easy win for Tim, and yes I do feel for him but sht talking about the other guy (look how Humble and Stoich BAKRAM was/is) no need to call someone a Side Line Fighter like Tim did, or comment about what he’s been eating, IMO the BETTER MAN who Deserved to win WON. 🥇
@@beamtweez1210 Agree mate, better man won and Tim only got himself to blame. He overlooked and disrespected his opponent, and as a consequence life humbled him. No way that was the game plan from the team, he appeared to be intent on just making some statement to America/PBC and planning next year before this fight even happened. We all know Tim does not fight like this, he downloads data and is cautious for the first 3 rounds and then applies the pressure. He got ahead of himself, and Spence and Crawford both said as such in their tweets. Long long road back, it is possible and has been done in past, but it is very rare for that to occur.
Tall Poppy is shocking in Aus!!
$70 for three fights when there were ten on the full fight card, ridiculous .
"most important thing after a fight like that is to do the right checkups"... interviews straight after the fight LMAO... worst team in boxing.
Some time ago i saw Tim in Thailand working with his dad, i thought ok but why change something that's working . Did all this Kosta thing blow up in Tim's face? Was the head cut living rent free in his head for 7 months? Did his old man turning up at the 11th hour make him lose focus? Not having a plan B , and clinching or working a jab hurt real bad as did taking old mate lightly..I think Tim needs a big holiday and ask himself is my current management and team a good fit moving forward? I think not..
Have a listen to the key board warriors.....
Tim's basically lost one fight ...
Got caught... but it was enough to loose him the fight . It was over from that point ....
Shit happens ....
Less go Timmy........on ya feet champ....
Are he’s coaches more fans than mentors ,,, it’s a world famous boxing name
I think the talent in his weight class is too great for Tim to continue. Crawford, Fundora, Ortiz and a host of others
After re watching the fight, I really don’t know how you win against a fighter like bakhram , Just doesn’t seem like he can be hurt.. and obviously quite awkward
Move around for starters ,no point going toe to toe with giant who has reach
He’s strong fighter and mentally tough from upbringing.. harder for ozzies we have easy lifestyle
@@gavinhurley8918 there is No chance to win against him, told people I know they are built different those Mountaneers.
Aussie here and I'm gutted. But where was dad? I saw the look on Tim's face after the second knock down and saw one of fear and confusion. He knows his son and would have picked it. Screw out entertainment and "fighting pride" and pull him out there.
I hope Tim is well
He needs to tighten his defence.Not just defending while the opponet is punching but defending as he is throwing.By not leaving gaps,example when Tim went for the left rip to the body he telegraphed it Bakhram saw it went left hook counter over the top.Tim needs to set up the left rip instead of just launching it as the 1st punch.The left rip should be the 2nd or 3rd punch and better when its set up so they cant see it or counter it.
Wow, there are times when you don't need enemies because loyalty seems to be out the window. It's embarrassing that some of you could be so cruel. Some of you should quit being RUclips's so-called commentators and observers with no experience, dignity, or sportsmanship! Tim came from a loss from an unfortunate cut to a bloody head vein that alone can cause someone to experience PTSD! I suggest that you Watch the fight again! If some of you understand what you are looking at during a boxing match you would have noticed early on that Tim was having a difficult time with flashbacks and worrying about if the cut opened when he thought it was bleeding. I'm sure many here don't care but wait until something life-changing such as PTSD or a traumatizing experience comes your way. In the end, we are all human with feelings, emotions, and dreams. So, You better hope people are kinder and loyal to you and they don't criticize you so harshly or humiliate your name!
And there’s nothing wrong with the family reunion. It’s a beautiful thing when family is there for one another and he most definitely needs family this time. !!
Who will be sacked first? What a disaster.
I don’t get why people are hating on No limit.
Tim is in this position solely on him.
Had he beaten Fundora he still would have taken this fight and Bakhram would have 3 belts. Tim met his match and let’s be honest he fought a couple of washed fighters and Mendoza is probably the best he’s beaten.
Tim is on nobody’s radar now.
He’s got a heck of a lot of work to do to get back into the top 5 if not 10 now. Probably 2 years before he gets a shot at another belt and by then his opponents are going to be sharper and stronger.
Hope he got a MRI as he needs one also time to retire,To come back from this and fight another contender in USA forget it his time is done time to smell the roses now Tim retire.
Tim needs to change new team and trainer
Retirement
@@hahahaha-qu6uv Fight " pretty boy"
No head movement from Tim was his Mistake. A moving target is harder to hit and he kept dropping his Hands. Same mistake that Mike Tyson did when he got older. From a Aitutaki Cook Islander.
Is he done?
All the experts commenting😂
Tim needs to trim the fat off the top for a start. How many hangers on do you need? He has way too many snakes hanging around with their hands out. Im surprised Angelo Hyder hasnt tried to snake his way in there to be honest.
If Tim wants to keep fighting get away from the crew he has now. Go see Freddy roach or some good trainer in the U.S
The better man won on the night it's as simple as that.
@@A_Free_Spirit_ 💯
exactly
Needs to get rid of the money mungers out of camp ,get his dad to.train him the old way ,much respect to tim he's done us Aussies proud ,not an easy sport 👍
The only way for Tim to make it as a top ranked fighter is to leave Australia train with the likes Vasiliy Lomachenko,Oleksandr Usyk, Bivol, Artur Beterbiev and that goes for Nikita.
Once you get yourself together Tim id suggest a couple things ,1st SACK your entire team ,kick that manager to the kerb and have a chat with Turki and explain to hes excellency that youve had terrible management and perhaps he might let you fight over in Suadi Arabia ,harsh i know but mate your surrounded yourself with YES men and hanger ons
he will be alright mate ,to me he didnt seem AS PUMPED in the first round and got caught by that hook ,the best is yet to come from him you watch
Basic boxing skills...move head and use footwork. None of that was displayed...a sitting duck for a heavy puncher!
Bakram is undefeated and the IBF World Champ for a reason, Charlo also avoided him and paid him step aside money to duck him. You don’t go from a loss to Fundora straight into a massive big puncher like Bakram. Seriously who is guiding Tim? He should have had one or two tune up fights first.
this was a far far bigger beating then what we saw with garcia vs haney and completely unexpected, tim has had his flaws fighting for a while now. just thought they were aware of this. if Tim remained boxing rather than trying to completely go toe to toe with a world champion you shrugged off as if he was nothing.
Tim looked like Bambi the baby deer in the headlights all fight
Should be a mandatory six month suspension after taking that much damage.
Looks like he had the same training regime as AJ.
Timdawg needs to have a more measured approach to different fighters and watch what he says before fights. Love Tim, just don't like this get in there and blast away/ seek and destroy style.
Maybe needs to be a more quietly and soft spoken assassin like his Dad.
Maybe a win over bohachuk would get him back into contention, and that ain't no easy task.
Where is Tims defence?
Been saying that for the last six of his fights.
Wtf are his coaches teaching him?
Kostya should guide him to the best trainer he knows and refresh his management team. Russia could be the right place for him.
Australia? i thought Tim was moving to Vegas to establish himself as a pro Fighter? after that complete mess however i understand Tim going back to fighting trash to refuel his ego.
The Russian had his measure
Tim throws the 1 2 and goes for the left to the body but the Russian countered it
Time to get rid of trainer , team and go in your own if you still want to fight. Recovery will not be easy
Go to Russia and train like real fighter's we allowed to have our opinion here but I'm no boxer but I watch a lot of fight that just my humble opinion
TIM NEEDS TO REST FOR AT LEAST ONE YEAR TO RETHINK ABOUT THE FUTURE AND TO TAKE A LONG REST OR ATLEAST HE NEEDS ONE CONFIDENCE BUILDING FIGHT IN AUSTRALIA
Just think they wanted us to stump up $70 for the fight. What a rip off.
I'd be demanding my money back after that so called "performance".
Tszyu ain't worth watching for that kind of coin, not even close.
tim needs to fire that team asap.
Tim’s team are completely useless .
Anyway it’s kind of late for all that , personally speaking Tim spirit is broken which will take a lot to build up again .
As the saying goes , “Never count your chickens before they hatch “.
Hopefully Nikita learns from all this .
Your team can make you or break you…
I wonder how the rose boys woke up this morning. Im guessing worse than tim. They must have lost a packet last night on that promotion and their only cash cow is finished.
Down under
Tim Tszyu needs to fire his whole team and if he wants to continue boxing come to the UK
TIM HAS THE WORST TEAM EVER-EXTREMELY ARROGANT GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS. Tim shouldn't have taken that fight. Bakhram is Russian, and you can't face an undefeated fighter like him right after a devastating loss. Tim's team is pushing him forward too quickly, and it's reckless. They should have stopped the fight after the cut he sustained against Fundora, but they didn't. Now, they've thrown him into the lion's den despite any psychological issues and concerns about how his cut would hold up. They are deluded; Tim is a human, not the Terminator. They've also fumbled his opportunities with Riyadh Season. 😔🤦🏻♂️
TIM IS HANGING AROUND L 0 SERS ..THEY COULDNT EVEN FIX HES CUT IN OTHER FIGHT
Training? What about that stupid game plan
All over Red Rover!.........
I still believe Tim has what it takes to be a world champion and beat Bakhram. My point's as an avid fan ... Lolz
1/ Hire a new trainer who will teach Tim how to defend himself ... Clinching, Holding, Move his head, knees bent and duck and weave ...
2/ Hire a new team ... Protect the fighter, loyalty only goes so far and blind loyalty just won't cut it at this level of boxing. Tim doesn't need "Yes Men" he needs leaders who will do and say what must be done to win the long game if Tim wants to compete at this level he must be teachable willing to listen and to learn.
3/ Never underestimate his opponents thinking he's figured it all out and it's a sure victory before the fight has begun. Study his opponents before a fight, dig up the dirt like in this case and do his research on his opponent. Explore and discover his opponents weaknesses and strengths before his training begins so he knows how to prepare for the fight.
Move away from Australia for a period like Thailand for example to restore his mind and his body.
Hahaha ... I know, I know but hey some lessons can be learned even from boxing films.
Watch all the Rocky films from scratch they have dozens of life lessons thread throughout the whole franchise.
100%
Nikita needs to go with him.
Time for a new team, new management, even consider moving up a weight div.
@@UtopiaBlue68 The Rocky movies are a great entertainment value. But I wouldn't base any personal life lessons on them. I think you're spot on with the rest. Most of us that have participated in any contact sport or life for that matter. Know Underestimating a opponent or adversary or just looking past the task in front of you can get get you beat down.
@@UtopiaBlue68 he won’t have a chance beating BAKRAM I ASSURE YOU. Age is getting against him and BAKRAM 3-6 Levels ahead of him.
@beamtweez1210yeah I think Bakhram's upbringing, training regimens and amateur/professional pedigree has created a gulf too large for Tszyu to overcome
@@clancyyoung9994Hahaha .... I get where you're coming from but let's evaluate some lessons from the Rocky franchise ...
1/ Rocky 4 ... The Russian with incredible strength and has plenty of pedigree as an Amateur. Rocky knew near to nothing about Drago's history or fighting style and ability and sadly found out the hard way.
2/ Rocky lost his edge his ability to work out a fighter and tried to out slug Clubber Lang and Drago instead of using purposeful strategy.
3/ Tim was not focused having his family arrive two days before the fight. I think his family should have arrived at least 1 - 2 weeks out from his fight so all the emotions he was experiencing with his family were laid aside and he was focused on the job ahead.
4/Fight selection .... Mickey was there to protect Rocky from himself and to call out when Rocky was making a hasty decision. "He'll kill you within 2 rounds, you can't win Rock". I've had 10 title defences ... they were hand picked ... they were good fighters but they weren't like this man he'll knock you into tomorrow Rock.
5/ Appolo:- You lost that fight for all the wrong reasons, you got to go back to the beginning go back to basics ... when you fought me you had the eye of the tiger ...
Tim never built Australian boxing, he’s failed in America twice now, if anyone has built Australian boxing and brought the big fights down under its one man & that’s George Kambosos Jnr
I think he will have mental problems for a while after a bashing like he got he should quit now if he gets another flogging like that he will have big problems i feel sorry for him but from the minute I payed eyes on him when he enter the I just thought something was not right with him but that is only my opinion
Tim sucks class c at best...and can't take a punch from a world class fighter
Unfortunately tim believe the hype. Hes never been good enough for the elete level
Needs to go tram old school in Russia get away from the rose clan
YES 🙌 Couldn’t have said it Any better
rose dudes are amateurs
He will get a game with wac next ko
Maby chips and pizza diet and get off social media for a start, go back to Australia and fight ubba drivers and no names, give the big boys a rest for awhile
There was a punch that landed on the back on his head from my understanding that is illegal but nothing was done about that
Tim is one dementional with no power
Australian boxing is so basic
Blah blah. Was it basic when Tim knocked out world ranked Mexicans and Americans? How about our current light heavy weight world champ? Liam Wilson knocked out a Mexican legend before a corrupt referee stole his belt in front of the world.
Like to see anyone out there beat jai opetaia bud lmbao keep running down Australia 😂😂
He has to come back every one nos Tim can fight just wasn't hungry enough to handle what was coming get his mind right again and come back with the eye of a tiger all good fighters have bad days he Tim will get his shit together don't worry about that every body out there
Dumb questions
Best decision he has made is to leave australia ,and i agree need to drop no limit
To all future boxers coming from Australia. Once ur in America drop everything got to to with Australia from managers to promoters
Tim losing is the end of no limit. Credit to them but they bit off more than they can chew
Pack of greedy scavengers are the no limit boys. How dare they charge $69.95 for the worst card in the history of PPV. At least we can expect Tim’s next fight to be not a cent more than $39.95, his value has been destroyed. I definitely won’t be paying for another fight of no limit boxing, because they have shown their hand on just how greedy they are without the care of their fighters.
He needs to leave no limit for god sake
There goes their meal ticket.
Tell Tim to remove the Matt and George same team get him brain damage next fight
Tim u just a milking cow for t roses they will milk u dry
SOUL TAKER GOT WRECKED..... NO LIIT IS STILL THE BAST
Tim should "NEVER" be ashamed of what happened, 2 losses doesn't make you a failure, after all there are only 2 boxers in Boxing history at any weight that have a perfect record, they are ---TERENCE CRAWFORD & ROCKY MARCIANO..This is a setback for Tim, but it's only the beginning of a great career...
Mayweather?
Ok I’ll do an interview and not want to comment on any subject !!
Your a flop Ben rose
Send the Rose Bros back to the mission 😩
Good at talkn crap, but zero boxing knowledge or capability’s! Stick to the Koori KO! RIP no limit ☠️🪦