@@ironwilltennis On the court now practicing the spin serve. Haven’t hit any into the net but most of my spin is going forwards towards my opponent…trying to hit more on the left side of the ball(I’m right handed) to get my balls to spin out away from my opponent on the add side of the court. I’ll keep trying. Know it’s going to take a long time to correct my swing
@@ironwilltennis still working on it. Getting lots of forward spin because I’m committed to the shot, but still having difficulty going wide add side of court. This will take time to get right
Helpful. I've been hitting the topspin serve when I thought I was trying to hit a kick serve. Now I know that I'm doing TS right and what I need to change for a proper kick. Good to have both, as you said! Thanks!
I somehow intuitively developped a decent kick serve next to my normal serve. Yet have to really learn a consistent slice serve. Interesting video this. Allows me to be more intentional with my kickserves and develop it further. Thank you.
@ironwilltennis oh pls. don't. I got frustrated with the flat serves going to the net. I tried using the 7 to 1 or 8 to 2 slice/spin serve & it worked. Now I'll definitely will try to add your kick lesson.
@@ironwilltennis actually there is :) I know one shouldnt think of too many technique things when playing match, but do you have any 'hitting thought' when serving, fh, bh etc? and if so, what is it?
Hi! Really great tips! I've encountered another really interesting topic, I was playing with some of the pros, and what astonished me, is how the pros watch the ball really different, as if from another universe. They were staring inside it's soul, it's incredible. Anyway, Patrick Mouratoglou was talking about right-eye dominance and left-eye dominance, and how people with a certain eye dominance should stick to different stances on the serve/forehand/backhand and keep their head little different to see the ball better... Sooo, can you please elaborate on something like this? It is too much to handle for anyone, but you seem to explain things with such an ease, it's incredible!
Thanks coach! Could you elaborate on the kick serve that not only penetrates the court, but also jumps high and outta the strike zone ala alcaraz? Also the same kinda video you made here, except all the little details for the slice serve would be awesome 😅 I’ve been hitting the penetrating kick and sometimes I fluke the one that kicks away from my opponent, now I know why but I’ve always struggled on getting the ball outta their strike zone
One thing that could help with that is using your legs to drive your body forward into the court while still keeping to the side kicking technique. This should give you some driving force but still preserve the angle of the bounce
@@ironwilltennis I’ve been experimenting with using legs/arm/shoulder to make spin and flexion of the trunk to drive the ball thru the court. I hope that makes sense
Thanks so much for the video! Can you discuss how this changes from the Deuce side? Do you only advise a penetrating body kick serve into the body / backhand? Thank you!
Nice video gain Will. I had one question: there is a debate about what kind of "continental" grip is to be used for volleys and the serve. It seems that you are more on the bevel 2.5 team / aka chopper grip than the camp that says to strictly put the first knuckle and heelpad on bevel 2. Do you think you can get just as much spin using the 2.5? Is that what you are indeed using?
The subtle adjustments are more for comfort in my opinion. I can do both with minimal change to spin potential. I could possibly generate a slightly better angle at most but the average recreational player won't see that much difference
@@ironwilltennis Thanks for the reply. I feel that the chopper/2.5 gets a bit more power on flat and slice serves; so that's what I've been experimenting with lately. But the better a server I become the more it becomes clear that placement really is the name of the game--not to mention that it's a tremendous confidence boost to get the serve to go where you want it with the "action" you want on it.
Hi coach. I was practicing this today and it went well hitting the side of the ball. But went I hit the "back" of the ball, it went long must of the time. Any advice?
Most common issue is possibly launching your body into the court to much. If you can get the feeling correct when you go sideways tge it's most likely a body shift
I have trouble with the kick serve, making it break out to the right (the kick part). For the penetrating topspin serve, I get good spin, and the ball gets a good, high jump off the bounce. I’ve always heard to swing up the back of the ball from 8 to 2 (across the face of the clock) to make it kick, but it doesn’t work for me. You’re saying to literally hit the up the left side of the ball? I’ve never tried that, but I’ll start practicing this and see if I can get the feel for it. Is this right?
need to work on the 2nd version of a kick. I watched some college players and they were all using that as a second serve where the ball drives forward. Doesn't bounce super high.
@ironwilltennis, just started following you a couple of weeks ago and already using your tips in my game 😊 I have a question about your racket. I see you’re using the V Core 98 2021 and see you’ve added weight at 10 and 2 what looks like the Tourna power strips? How many of those do you use? Is that the extent of your customisation? Thinking of switching to the 2021 V Core 98 as I’m currently using the V Core Pro 97 2021 and don’t hold much hope for the new V Core Pro suiting my game. I used to have a killer 1HBH, but the V Core Pro 97 310g has made that non-existent. Apologies this is not a kick serve related question 🫤
@@ironwilltennis thanks very much for replying. Picked-up a 2nd hand V Core 95 and leather grip is going on tomorrow. What gauge/mm is the string? Apologies to ask another question 🤦
I love how clear your instruction is.
Thank you😁 I try to keep it simple
My new fav tennis coach on YT....all of your videos are easy to understand and then take to the court. Thank you
Thank you for the compliment 😁 that's my goal 👍I hope it helped
Thanks for keeping it simple.
Definitely gonna try this out at practice for my second serve, thanks Will.
very welcome hope it helps
Thank you. Striking the ball on its side makes a lot of sense to get it to go wide. I’ll give this a try.
@@robertrenk7074 let me know how it goes
@@ironwilltennis most definitely! As soon as I recover from lower back pain I’ll be on court
@@ironwilltennis On the court now practicing the spin serve. Haven’t hit any into the net but most of my spin is going forwards towards my opponent…trying to hit more on the left side of the ball(I’m right handed) to get my balls to spin out away from my opponent on the add side of the court. I’ll keep trying. Know it’s going to take a long time to correct my swing
@@ironwilltennis still working on it. Getting lots of forward spin because I’m committed to the shot, but still having difficulty going wide add side of court. This will take time to get right
@@robertrenk7074 got faith in you 🙏
Hi coach. Can u do a video on kick serve from the deuce side? Thx in advance
Another great video!!!
I learned this by accident. Great to hear it in principle and see it in action.
Happy to help, hope it was useful
Helpful. I've been hitting the topspin serve when I thought I was trying to hit a kick serve. Now I know that I'm doing TS right and what I need to change for a proper kick. Good to have both, as you said! Thanks!
its an easy adjustment once you know. good luck
Thanks for the video !
You're very welcome, hope it's useful
Nice advanced tutorial on the kick serve. I didn't know it had variations. Thanks so much
You're welcomed let me know how it goes
I somehow intuitively developped a decent kick serve next to my normal serve. Yet have to really learn a consistent slice serve. Interesting video this. Allows me to be more intentional with my kickserves and develop it further. Thank you.
very welcome, happy to be able to keep helping you out Paul
Working on my Ad side kick serve. Thanks for the tip. I struggled to add pace on my second serve
Happy to help 😁 let me know how it works out
Manage to add pace. But I don't feel much spin on my serve
@@Famouss we'll need to help you address that 😁👍
One of your best videos imo
Thank you 😁 I'll try to out do it in the future
Excellent explanation , thanks for great details on both kinds of kickers!
You're welcome 😁 hope it helps a little
Best kick serve video
That's a huge compliment, thank you 🙏
well said...most do not differentiate these two different types
Thank you 😁 i try to cover the missed details
Where is this location? Thanks for sharing. Greetings to all from paradise, welcome👍🌞🤗
Thanks for visiting. this video was shot at local high school court. nothing special
Another concise tutorial Will, thank you.
Glad you like it, let me know if it works for you
Thanks! I only have a second serve. I seldom double faults. 😆
We need to get to your level then 😁
@ironwilltennis oh pls. don't. I got frustrated with the flat serves going to the net. I tried using the 7 to 1 or 8 to 2 slice/spin serve & it worked. Now I'll definitely will try to add your kick lesson.
@@lingrush395 let me know if it helps 😁
good timing of this video, just decided I have to improve my second serve in order to improve my game
Glad I put it up in time the 😁👍 let me know if there's anything else you'd like to see
@@ironwilltennis actually there is :) I know one shouldnt think of too many technique things when playing match, but do you have any 'hitting thought' when serving, fh, bh etc? and if so, what is it?
How about kick serve mechanics on deuce side.. (righty).. should the top kick... break to right ( viewing from righty)..
Thanks will. Awesome content. For the reverse forehand should the wrist be loose or tight
Thanks!!
Maceo
Loose until just before contact, then firm through the strike
Hi! Really great tips! I've encountered another really interesting topic, I was playing with some of the pros, and what astonished me, is how the pros watch the ball really different, as if from another universe. They were staring inside it's soul, it's incredible. Anyway, Patrick Mouratoglou was talking about right-eye dominance and left-eye dominance, and how people with a certain eye dominance should stick to different stances on the serve/forehand/backhand and keep their head little different to see the ball better... Sooo, can you please elaborate on something like this? It is too much to handle for anyone, but you seem to explain things with such an ease, it's incredible!
Btw, I'm not near pro, but I hit with 7 of them, UTR 11-14
I like that. I may add that as one of our podcast topics actually
Thanks coach! Could you elaborate on the kick serve that not only penetrates the court, but also jumps high and outta the strike zone ala alcaraz? Also the same kinda video you made here, except all the little details for the slice serve would be awesome 😅
I’ve been hitting the penetrating kick and sometimes I fluke the one that kicks away from my opponent, now I know why but I’ve always struggled on getting the ball outta their strike zone
One thing that could help with that is using your legs to drive your body forward into the court while still keeping to the side kicking technique. This should give you some driving force but still preserve the angle of the bounce
@@ironwilltennis I’ve been experimenting with using legs/arm/shoulder to make spin and flexion of the trunk to drive the ball thru the court. I hope that makes sense
Thanks so much for the video! Can you discuss how this changes from the Deuce side? Do you only advise a penetrating body kick serve into the body / backhand? Thank you!
I can definitely cover this in a video😁👍
Will, should we initiate our weight on the back foot to push up to serve, especially for platform stance or push up from the front foot ? Thanks
Actually both, the back leg propels you into the court while the front gives you the height upwards as well as a rotation axis to pivot on
Now I have the whole picture ！ Thanks a million !
@phillai9930 you're welcome, let me know if it helps
Thank you so much Will. Can I ask is there any difference to the toss for the two kinds of kicks? The into the body you need to toss more in front?
The toss to kick it into the person can be a little more in front to assist but it's not inherently needed
Nice video gain Will. I had one question: there is a debate about what kind of "continental" grip is to be used for volleys and the serve. It seems that you are more on the bevel 2.5 team / aka chopper grip than the camp that says to strictly put the first knuckle and heelpad on bevel 2. Do you think you can get just as much spin using the 2.5? Is that what you are indeed using?
The subtle adjustments are more for comfort in my opinion. I can do both with minimal change to spin potential. I could possibly generate a slightly better angle at most but the average recreational player won't see that much difference
@@ironwilltennis Thanks for the reply. I feel that the chopper/2.5 gets a bit more power on flat and slice serves; so that's what I've been experimenting with lately. But the better a server I become the more it becomes clear that placement really is the name of the game--not to mention that it's a tremendous confidence boost to get the serve to go where you want it with the "action" you want on it.
Hi coach. I was practicing this today and it went well hitting the side of the ball. But went I hit the "back" of the ball, it went long must of the time. Any advice?
Most common issue is possibly launching your body into the court to much. If you can get the feeling correct when you go sideways tge it's most likely a body shift
@@ironwilltennis thank you.
I have trouble with the kick serve, making it break out to the right (the kick part). For the penetrating topspin serve, I get good spin, and the ball gets a good, high jump off the bounce. I’ve always heard to swing up the back of the ball from 8 to 2 (across the face of the clock) to make it kick, but it doesn’t work for me. You’re saying to literally hit the up the left side of the ball? I’ve never tried that, but I’ll start practicing this and see if I can get the feel for it. Is this right?
Yea strike the left and push up and right you'll be behind the ball a little but mostly on the side
When I try to hit the kicker into the body, it usually goes long. How do you keep the ball in the box?
...a quicker, more accelerated motion might work.
I agree with @ripleypipe the only thing I would add is make sure your acceleration is in the right direction
What about on duce side you didn't show.
The technical aspects are the same but tactically there are some changes. I'll do a video to address them
need to work on the 2nd version of a kick. I watched some college players and they were all using that as a second serve where the ball drives forward. Doesn't bounce super high.
both are pretty prevalent, most players just have a strong preference towards 1 or the other
@ironwilltennis, just started following you a couple of weeks ago and already using your tips in my game 😊 I have a question about your racket. I see you’re using the V Core 98 2021 and see you’ve added weight at 10 and 2 what looks like the Tourna power strips? How many of those do you use? Is that the extent of your customisation? Thinking of switching to the 2021 V Core 98 as I’m currently using the V Core Pro 97 2021 and don’t hold much hope for the new V Core Pro suiting my game. I used to have a killer 1HBH, but the V Core Pro 97 310g has made that non-existent. Apologies this is not a kick serve related question 🫤
I have no problem answering.
It's a 6th Gen vcore 95
Head-hawk power strings 50lbs
Babolat leather grip
Tournament power strip at 10-2
@@ironwilltennis thanks very much for replying. Picked-up a 2nd hand V Core 95 and leather grip is going on tomorrow. What gauge/mm is the string? Apologies to ask another question 🤦
@@bsinghgillhead hawk power 17 Guage 👍