Why I Left Greenpeace | 5 Minute Video

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  • Опубликовано: 26 июл 2015
  • Patrick Moore explains why he helped to create Greenpeace, and why he decided to leave it. What began as a mission to improve the environment for the sake of humanity became a political movement in which humanity became the villain and hard science a non-issue.
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    Script:
    In 1971 I helped found an environmental group in the basement of a Unitarian church in Vancouver, Canada. Fifteen years later, it had grown into an international powerhouse. We were making headlines every month. I was famous. And then I walked out the door.
    The mission, once noble, had become corrupted -- political agendas and fear mongering trumped science and truth. Here's how it happened.
    When I was studying for my PhD in ecology at the University of British Columbia, I joined a small activist group called the Don't Make a Wave Committee. It was the height of the Cold War; the Vietnam War was raging. I became radicalized by these realities and by the emerging consciousness of the environment.
    The mission of the Don't Make a Wave Committee was to launch an ocean-going campaign against US hydrogen bomb testing in Alaska, a symbol of our opposition to nuclear war. As one of our early meetings was breaking up, someone said, "Peace," A reply came, "Why don't we make it a green peace," and a new movement was born.
    Green was for the environment and peace was for the people. We named our boat "The Greenpeace" and I joined the 12-person crew for a voyage of protest.
    We didn't stop that H-bomb test but it was the last hydrogen bomb the United States ever detonated. We had won a major victory.
    In 1975, Greenpeace took a sharp turn away from our anti-nuclear efforts and set out to Save the Whales, sailing the high seas to confront Russian and Japanese whalers. The footage we shot -- young protesters positioned between harpoons and fleeing whales -- was shown on TV around the world. Public donations poured in. By the early 1980s we were campaigning against toxic waste, air pollution, trophy hunting, and the live capture of orca whales.
    But I began to feel uncomfortable with the course my fellow directors were taking. I found myself the only one of six international directors with a formal science background. We were now tackling subjects that involved complex issues of toxicology, chemistry, and human health. You don't need a PhD in marine biology to know it's a good thing to save whales from extinction. But when you're analyzing which chemicals to ban, you need to know some science. And the first lesson of ecology is that we are all interconnected. Humans are part of nature, not separate from it. Many other species, disease agents and their carriers, for example, are our enemies and we have the moral obligation to protect human beings from these enemies. Biodiversity is not always our friend.
    I had noticed something else. As we grew into an international organization with over $100 million a year coming in, a big change in attitude had occurred. The "peace" in Greenpeace had faded away. Only the "green" part seemed to matter now. Humans, to use Greenpeace language, had become "the enemies of the Earth." Putting an end to industrial growth and banning many useful technologies and chemicals became common themes of the movement. Science and logic no longer held sway. Sensationalism, misinformation, and fear were what we used to promote our campaigns.
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Комментарии • 5 тыс.

  • @shaungibson4527
    @shaungibson4527 8 лет назад +8044

    What happened to Greenpeace sounds like what happened to feminism.

    • @cherrytwitter9342
      @cherrytwitter9342 8 лет назад +215

      OMG I was thinking the same

    • @CL2K
      @CL2K 8 лет назад +80

      Good, now both of you can make connections and relate to history.

    • @BZBBLAHBLAH
      @BZBBLAHBLAH 8 лет назад +34

      Top comment!

    • @DrifterAtSea
      @DrifterAtSea 8 лет назад +19

      agree

    • @CarlosAvilla
      @CarlosAvilla 8 лет назад +15

      Great!!!!

  • @zapfanzapfan
    @zapfanzapfan 6 лет назад +2496

    My professor in plant molecular biology left Greenpeace 20 years ago because of their stupidity on GMO. When an environmental organisation does things that causes biologists to leave, they might want to reconsider...

    • @Pippie5555
      @Pippie5555 6 лет назад +59

      When a political agenda takes over..... :-(

    • @francoistombe
      @francoistombe 5 лет назад +85

      The movement starts with people with knowledge and competence in the subject in question. They are joined by SJW types who know nothing on the technical side. At that point it becomes all political and is a self promoting tool for radical personality disordered people.

    • @herlock2
      @herlock2 5 лет назад +28

      GMO isn't stupid. There are GMOs producing neonicotinoids, pesticides that kill various plant pollinators including bees, that cant be washed off and are toxic. Whole ecosystem would collapse if they started being used massively, and that's in example what greenpeace and sumofus is fighting against

    • @shadependragon8708
      @shadependragon8708 5 лет назад +41

      @@herlock2 GMO is not the problem, we've been doing that shit since humanity started farming. The PROBLEM is that only few has the ability to create mass produced modern tech GMOs, causing those who can do them monopolize and create shit that's only beneficial to them. Obviously the BEST way to fight it is to universalize it, large coordinated honest information campaign, and make Modern technique of creating GMOs easier to get into, to stop the Monopoly and promote competition.

    • @collaborisgaming2190
      @collaborisgaming2190 5 лет назад +6

      keeping altered and unaltered separate is a good thing to do. isolated communities like groups in experiments is a relatively quick measure to prove points. mass experimentation. all we need is volunteers, time and coordination to organize such feats. if they argue to such extent as to martyr for it then they die by their own hands if it does indeed kill in the control environment needed to prove it or they live in triumph. sometimes the best action is the biggest sacrifice. let this be solved with democratic organization. peace and cooperation among all else. if advancement is from high effort then i just suggest an exemplification of it. sometimes being the "bad guy" isn't always the bad thing at least to the ones who understand why they do it.

  • @madeindame
    @madeindame 5 лет назад +1258

    *Why i left buzzfeed*

    • @terramerc733
      @terramerc733 5 лет назад +2

      I dont get it

    • @AllThePeppermint
      @AllThePeppermint 5 лет назад +23

      TerraMerc 73, there is a growing trend of good and/or entertaining RUclips content creators leaving RUclips and posting why.

    • @mattsalafia9921
      @mattsalafia9921 5 лет назад +51

      You left that steaming pile of shit? Good job. You are now on the way to being a productive member of society.

    • @dmitriytemnov646
      @dmitriytemnov646 5 лет назад +15

      Now leave reddit

    • @josephfogarty6902
      @josephfogarty6902 5 лет назад +6

      Avocado Sauce *why would you join in the first place?*

  • @lisajones1140
    @lisajones1140 5 лет назад +179

    I walked away too because of their political agenda especially on social media. Sad.

    • @sylviajade3474
      @sylviajade3474 4 года назад

      hey im writing an article about green peace. would you maybe care to be interviewed via email about your time there?

  • @mariomannella7335
    @mariomannella7335 9 лет назад +2203

    It must suck to have helped built something so great with so noble a cause, and then see it get corrupted right before your eyes.
    It's like if Caesar was around for the Fall Of Rome.

    • @jmac1244
      @jmac1244 9 лет назад +33

      Mario Mannella Very much like Grameen Bank. Mohammed Yunis built an entire movement of micro lending to the poor, which many others have built and followed upon elsewhere. It then got so big the Indian banks and those in power pushed him out. Very sad.

    • @raphaellaflamme8460
      @raphaellaflamme8460 9 лет назад +28

      Mario Mannella Look at the other videos this is a right wing anti-environment channel

    • @shrugger1
      @shrugger1 9 лет назад +90

      Raphaël Laflamme Right Wing ≠ anti-environment

    • @notbadsince97
      @notbadsince97 9 лет назад +20

      Mario Mannella Well hes a lobbyist for industrial groups and skeptic of human caused climate change so my sympathy is quickly fading

    • @TRorHemingway
      @TRorHemingway 9 лет назад +60

      Raphaël Laflamme Calling out a 'non-profit' for losing its way and devolving into a $400 million dollar per year, overly politicized shell of its former self is not anti-environment. It's pro common sense. Oh, and what you wrote doesn't qualify as a rebuttal to anything Moore stated in this video.

  • @paquete_sorpresa
    @paquete_sorpresa 7 лет назад +1479

    The only "green" in Greenpeace are the dollars.

    • @lindaadamson5113
      @lindaadamson5113 6 лет назад +20

      Their use of the word Peace is nefarious also.

    • @jakubmata8166
      @jakubmata8166 6 лет назад +9

      Do you know that Greenpeace is a non profit-making organization?

    • @Pippie5555
      @Pippie5555 6 лет назад +15

      No not just the dollar. It is politics. When you have a political agenda.... Scary. This how Fake News start.

    • @albertomolero6553
      @albertomolero6553 6 лет назад +11

      And the weed

    • @liner011f7
      @liner011f7 5 лет назад +4

      Let's never the Greenpeace Angry Kid ad, it's on youtube, 10 years old and loaded with laughable predictions.

  • @deejaaay7600
    @deejaaay7600 4 года назад +11

    At 3:45 you can start to see him tear up. At least I think. I think this guy at the core of who he was honestly believed that the organization he built was going to do good in this world. That was taken from him. This video deserves waay more respect and attention that it has. The world needs more men like him. Humble, honest and most of all, logical following an understanding behind the two worlds logic and emotion. This alone is why we see the world as it is becoming. We're becoming more instinctual and our future is grim the less we rely on logic.

  • @nobody.123
    @nobody.123 5 лет назад +50

    I recently finished my degree in Environmental Science, I have an affinity for the environment, but I ultimately believe organizations like Greenpeace are cheapening what that _actually_ means. They are supplementing radically populist ideas for realistic approaches to environmental protection, and their positions on technological advancements like GMO's and Nuclear Energy are perfect examples of their beliefs doing more harm to the environment than good. Not to mention, perpetuating the ideas of many who believe the environmental movement is merely for implementing unrelated political agendas by their support for many politicians who's priorities are placed in the pursuit of power rather than the actually "saftey" of others and the environment.
    Please do not think that we are all radical, seek regressive policies, and want to infiltrate and change your way of life; however, it is indeed unfortunate that many of my colleagues (the majority, in all honesty) seem to take that approach.

    • @wdd3141
      @wdd3141 4 года назад

      Rush Limbaugh years ago said the environmentalist movement became a refuge for socialists.

    • @beatrizviacava-goulet3450
      @beatrizviacava-goulet3450 4 года назад

      Plus is Green Peace duopoly controlled....like dems g..new d...a pretend to care w/ fail ends because they like to create situations to keep doing their ways all along...
      The original efforts continue untainted with REAL SCIENCE REAL UNBURIED HISTORIES to uplift humanly the PLANET we are ONE HUMAN RACE is 2020 the peace at heart and open minded will see the next chapter...not the people who knowingly or unknowingly will perpetuate this primitive reality...in the past greed and careless power was and continues? the end of many civilizations...let the universal law of peace upgrade us...the future now if we really care learn and pass it forward to not repeat but correct it...NOW NOT LATER...
      Globalgreens . org
      Because is what really matters...our concerns...not their profits on our expense...

    • @beatrizviacava-goulet3450
      @beatrizviacava-goulet3450 4 года назад

      Socialists is a smeared word like many on purpose...the true green efforts aims for protocols that worked should and will based on real history...to help heal the wrongs...is time to upgrade HUMANITY not perpetuate oppressions...technologies of the future are here needs compassionate open minded to handle it...pass it forward is up to us to be ready your mind and senses need to be in tune ...listen within...peace united will prevail nothing else matters MORE but our GREAT FRECUENCIES ...we are part of ONE..act like it...is in your DNA...tune inwards and discover the journeys...our common souls have...

  • @MorinoRavenberg
    @MorinoRavenberg 6 лет назад +2060

    Doesn't surprise me, one of the reasons I don't like donating to causes. PETA is another good example of good intent gone wrong; corrupt to the core.

    • @travisreed1730
      @travisreed1730 6 лет назад +83

      PETA's just a bunch of nutcases.

    • @tray22
      @tray22 5 лет назад +126

      Most PETA members are perfectly fine with aborting a baby but are totally against hunting, owning pets, or even seeing-eye dogs.

    • @lucienstephaneledan4211
      @lucienstephaneledan4211 5 лет назад +43

      Donate to SeaShepherd, 90% of their funds go directly to their campains, and 95% of their funds are from donations!
      Paul Watson, another founder of GreenPeace left early because he saw how the organisation would be corrupt and useless. He founded SeaShepherd to protect the oceans and wildlife where fools and governments fail.

    • @willtomasini1
      @willtomasini1 5 лет назад +4

      Kind of like feminism smh

    • @brigadierbrownring4350
      @brigadierbrownring4350 5 лет назад +8

      @@tray22 they are in the process of trying to get the village of wool to change its name because it is linked to sheep cruelty?
      what they didnt realise is that the village name is derived from the old saxon word for fresh well.
      naomi cambell is a member of peta, and she wears fur or wool when the photo shoot dictates???????????????????????????????????????????????????????.
      the only way to stop these twats is to ignore them but all media outlets give them a platform because it looks good on the CV that they 'support' 'good causes'.
      rich hypocrites who live in bubbles, come the next big war/catastrophic event and we will be expected to help or protect them, personally i would kill them to save valuable water/food supplies from non productive humans

  • @CarrolGhiacciolo
    @CarrolGhiacciolo 8 лет назад +250

    I'm getting a degree in Enviromental sciences, and the more I studied the more I got skeptical and wary of such organizations.

    • @michelleaguilar8547
      @michelleaguilar8547 7 лет назад +3

      I'm kinda interested in the topic. It would be awesome to exchange some ideas (if you'd like) :)

    • @TheRageCommenter
      @TheRageCommenter 6 лет назад +4

      Why waste your college education? What job will you get with that degree? The EPA?

    • @annastasiaskolow429
      @annastasiaskolow429 6 лет назад +1

      Mister Meise i would ;)

    • @Javr175
      @Javr175 6 лет назад +7

      Also studying Environmental Science, toxicology exam tomorrow, and I completly agree with your coment. Hating an element like Cl just because some of its forms are damaging (many from the "dirty dozen") is like hating Carbon because the bully of your school is made of it lol

    • @28ebdh3udnav
      @28ebdh3udnav 6 лет назад +1

      DaggerXIV I used to support these groups until I grew up did my own quicl research.

  • @ChocoStudiosBrickfilms
    @ChocoStudiosBrickfilms 3 года назад +19

    The dislikes are from Greenpeace members...
    I'm not one of them

  • @sonuboss4302
    @sonuboss4302 6 лет назад +33

    You Either Die A Hero, Or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain

    • @texas-red8457
      @texas-red8457 3 года назад +1

      Pretty sure we can use this quote for many organizations and countries

    • @kevinhill8193
      @kevinhill8193 Год назад

      @@texas-red8457 duh

  • @Jemalacane0
    @Jemalacane0 8 лет назад +499

    They wanted to ban chlorine? The oceans would have posed an *enormous* challenge to that.

    • @mickmickymike
      @mickmickymike 8 лет назад

      What?

    • @zecchinoroni
      @zecchinoroni 8 лет назад +64

      +Michael Hinchliffe Sodium chloride. Not exactly chlorine, but a disturbing amount of people don't understand chemistry.

    • @Gogglesofkrome
      @Gogglesofkrome 8 лет назад +36

      +Michael Hinchliffe
      Salts. They're talking about salt water.
      EG: Sodium chloride

    • @ShiYuMeng2
      @ShiYuMeng2 8 лет назад

      +RedMatter Do you drink salt water?

    • @Gogglesofkrome
      @Gogglesofkrome 8 лет назад +9

      Michael Speth who doesn't?

  • @ChromeGamesOrg
    @ChromeGamesOrg 9 лет назад +887

    Good. Now lets go against PETA

    • @BeeRich33
      @BeeRich33 9 лет назад

      DatSniperBietch They're kinda funny.

    • @gregheffly
      @gregheffly 9 лет назад

      ***** love how in the comment thread above us the guy bashes GP and gets the book thrown at him, but here we are bashing a popular mister with no repocussions.

    • @amongstedibles5159
      @amongstedibles5159 9 лет назад +15

      ***** I like to stuff my peta with grilled chicken, or pork, or beef , or lamb , or various types of seafood but if you use ostrich, bison, lamma or horse, you will need to add some kind of fat like bacon or pork fat, cuz those meats are really lean...I add lettuce , onions and tomatoes as well. Oh yeah, and cheese YUM YUM YUMMY YUMMY YUM!!

    • @iZuqoo
      @iZuqoo 9 лет назад +18

      ***** They kill a lot of animals, yes. Why? because they have to. No one wants them, there's too much.

    • @Thoran666
      @Thoran666 9 лет назад

      DatSniperBietch Don't you have something useful to do like promoting MSF USA? Instead of focusing on useless organisations why not help those that are useful?

  • @ernestopenas5651
    @ernestopenas5651 3 года назад +11

    Excellent videos. I was a member of an environmentalist group in my country. We campaigned against toxic waste. Then a leftist party landed in the group and started manipulating it. When doing a banner against toxic waste, they manipulated the location of the waste disposal site, to "convince more people about our cause" I left the group and never came back.
    Greenpeace have become an instrument of the vested interests financing them. I lost all respect for them long time ago

  • @AhmedHan
    @AhmedHan 5 лет назад +172

    This explains why Greanpeace never protests nuclear plants in imperialist countries like USA, Germany, England. But they offensively protest it when developing countries like Indonesia and Turkey wants to build one for themselves.

    • @indonesia_playa
      @indonesia_playa 5 лет назад +4

      AhmedHan can you send me the news source so i can read them

    • @danh8302
      @danh8302 5 лет назад +9

      You should check out The moral case for fossil fuels by Alex Epstein.
      Also I like how USA, Germany and England are evil imperialists but there is no preface on Turkey... lol that made me laugh, thanks.

    • @Kurikost_
      @Kurikost_ 5 лет назад +14

      germany and nuclear plants....read before you write something!

    • @future3805
      @future3805 5 лет назад

      nucleur power is aver ma dude

    • @gwegowee8162
      @gwegowee8162 5 лет назад +5

      No offense, but I don't think you know what imperialism means

  • @allencrider
    @allencrider 9 лет назад +106

    That's the Monsanto guy who said glyphosate was safe and then refused to drink it!

    • @nichtdiemama11
      @nichtdiemama11 9 лет назад +70

      allencrider
      I know that drinking urine is safe, but i wouldn't do it just to prove a point. That's stupid.

    • @allencrider
      @allencrider 9 лет назад +30

      Luhtännet Körnel Glyphosate has been declared a probable carcinogen by an agency of the World Health Organization. He's stupid, but he's not an idiot.

    • @BOINKHeadshot
      @BOINKHeadshot 9 лет назад +26

      allencrider Nowadays almost anything gives you cancer.
      Even going OUTSIDE gives you cancer because UV radation can cause cancer.
      So if he said "glyphosate is safe to drink" with the only complaint being "it's carcinogen" (and nothing else), that's about as bad as saying: tanning at the beach is safe.
      It sounds like the fear mongering he was talking about.
      (If there's more complaints with glyphosate I'm unaware of those.)

    • @allencrider
      @allencrider 9 лет назад +7

      BOINKHeadshot Drink up, then! Here's the full report from the WHO. Stronger than your google
      monographs.iarc.fr/ENG/Monographs/vol112/mono112-02.pdf

    • @MakroTeh
      @MakroTeh 9 лет назад +19

      allencrider I wonder if you bothered to read through it or any other sources. We have conducted trials on animals that were fed such amounts of glyphosate that they would also be poisoned if it was NaCl. And it turned out to be about as poisonous as salt and not carcinogenic. The WHO study is an overview of some epidemiological studies on some farmers and invitro which had mixed results (different cancer in each) and aren't the perfect models. Especially if the odds are very small it's easy to manipulate the study/get wrong conclusions. So basically they said "we need to look more into that". They don't say "it's carcinogenic". And you fail to mention that for decades EPA and EFSA consider glyphosate as a safe herbicide. Why don't you greens go and wage war against herbicides, because let's face it, you do it because of your hate for GMO.

  • @mitchjohnson4714
    @mitchjohnson4714 7 лет назад +223

    I joined my university's environmentalist club. In the very first meeting, some people came in to inform us of a nuclear power plant whose exhaust was "wafting out over the forest." There was a gasp from the whole room. I never went back.

    • @monochromegoggles4265
      @monochromegoggles4265 7 лет назад +133

      Hahahaha, lemme guess, the 'exhaust' they were talking about was coming from the cooling stack. In other words, it was harmless steam and water vapor. XD

    • @mitchjohnson4714
      @mitchjohnson4714 7 лет назад +78

      Yes.

    • @purukumi4957
      @purukumi4957 6 лет назад +1

      wow

    • @elchungo5026
      @elchungo5026 6 лет назад +1

      Mitch Johnson I hate nuclear power. I just couldn't live next to a nuclear bomb waiting to go off, even if the odds are minuscule
      Edit: holy shit this is a horrible take. Nuclear power is the future.

    • @-ragingpotato-937
      @-ragingpotato-937 6 лет назад +18

      Chandler Short
      Although i understand that feeling, i find it ridiculous that anyone would prefer a 100% chance of killing the entire planet over a 0.01% chance of blowing up a region.

  • @johnwade1095
    @johnwade1095 5 лет назад +45

    I quit Greenpeace because they were utterly silent over the destruction of North Sea fisheries. I joined UKIP because they weren't.

    • @brammichielsen7778
      @brammichielsen7778 4 года назад +3

      Greenpeace has a lot of campaigns over this topic.

    • @samlomax5120
      @samlomax5120 3 года назад

      Well I'm sure people will be reassured to know that they can rely on UKIP for all their scientific and environmental information now...

    • @johnwade1095
      @johnwade1095 3 года назад

      @@samlomax5120 that's a childish misrepresentation of my position and you know it. However, now Greenpeace have decided to re-engage with overfishing by dropping riprap on the Dogger bank, I may rejoin.

    • @samlomax5120
      @samlomax5120 3 года назад

      @@johnwade1095 Greenpeace have limited resources and many battles they have to fight. They have always opposed overfishing in all parts of the world, including the destruction of North Sea fisheries. It is great that they have now had the time and resources to take action against via the Dogger Bank boulders, but if you head to media.greenpeace.org, you can see plenty of examples of their oceans protection work.
      Greenpeace are also currently campaigning for 30% of the world's oceans to be protected by 2030, via the new oceans treaty which will be created next year. This will give fish and marine life populations the chance to re-generate, increase oxygen levels in our oceans and help avoid further pollution. I would fully suggest that you rejoin, it is great to have as much support as possible and the more involved people get, the more they can see what amazing work Greenpeace does do.

    • @johnwade1095
      @johnwade1095 3 года назад

      @@samlomax5120 its plain I know more about this than you.

  • @MrAB-xc9du
    @MrAB-xc9du 2 года назад +1

    I am from Pakistan, I would be very glad to become a member of Green Peace.
    Thanks indeed

  • @richardlew3667
    @richardlew3667 7 лет назад +247

    I'm so sorry Patrick that you had to see what your once noble organization turned into

  • @GrumpyStormtrooper
    @GrumpyStormtrooper 8 лет назад +717

    there was a Greenpeace commercial before this
    omg

  • @tamisweetie
    @tamisweetie 5 лет назад +4

    I was hired to work for greenpeace, orientation is supposed to be tomorrow... the past month since the offer presented itself, something felt off and for some reason my gut has steered me away from it. Saying I’m all for peace and change would be an understatement, however I feel in the depths of my bones there’s a better way to make the changes needed than the ways they’d have me doing. I make bigger waves of influence in my personal life than I would being in this company. Guess I’ll stay jobless a while longer.

  • @suggesttwo
    @suggesttwo 5 лет назад +38

    Cheap free energy: sunlight from well placed windows and skylights in buildings. Open the windows in the summer fall and spring for cooling.

    • @anno41
      @anno41 3 года назад +5

      Not really 16 nuclear power plants, can easily power the Netherlands. 1 plant would produce waist the seize of an apple in 1 year. It would be far better then putting those solar panels ( which have a huge impact to make in the first place) once u respect and understand nuclear energy... it realy can be the future..

    • @suggesttwo
      @suggesttwo 3 года назад +2

      @@anno41 forget skylights, solar panels, windmills and nuclear. Natural gas furnaces are 3 times as efficient as fuel burning power plants. Wasting 4% as opposed to 66% of the heat produced by the gas being burned.

    • @danc101
      @danc101 3 года назад

      @@suggesttwo What do you do when natural gas runs out? I think more should be invested in to biogas and other biofuels

    • @suggesttwo
      @suggesttwo 3 года назад +1

      @@danc101 the polar ice caps didn't melt 20 years ago and drown us all. 2000, 2010, 2013, 2016 and 2020. It's all a lie, when I was Gretta's age I was just like her scared silly. Now it makes me mad when I hear any of that miserable GWCC narrative.

    • @danc101
      @danc101 3 года назад

      @@suggesttwo I'm going to be honest, climate change doesn't really scare me that much, but you've got to accept that fossil fuels are going to run out at some point

  • @dsua3728
    @dsua3728 8 лет назад +528

    The road to hell were paved with good intentions.

    • @Sanglierification
      @Sanglierification 8 лет назад +3

      +D Sua exactly the words I was thinking too !

    • @SuckMyKiss420
      @SuckMyKiss420 8 лет назад +16

      +D Sua ...So many good intentions that it's now the highway to hell

    • @Sanglierification
      @Sanglierification 8 лет назад +7

      ***** Yeah. I'm thunderstruck by the truth here

    • @MasteringJohn
      @MasteringJohn 7 лет назад +16

      Good phrase. Its up there with, "No one's the villain in their own story" and "Sacrifice too much for the greater good and eventually you'll run out of people to sacrifice".

    • @peetamellark4075
      @peetamellark4075 6 лет назад

      Where do you get that ?, i know its more then a year ago, but i would really know..bless you.

  • @owos100
    @owos100 7 лет назад +1016

    What about sodium chloride? I like my table salt.

    • @toxicman9128
      @toxicman9128 7 лет назад +3

      BluCat
      yaaassss

    • @Molotov49
      @Molotov49 7 лет назад +52

      No more table salt! Table salt BAAAAAAAAD!

    • @killawhale8726
      @killawhale8726 7 лет назад +9

      BluCat What am I gonna put on my popcorn other than butter?

    • @toxicman9128
      @toxicman9128 7 лет назад +6

      BluCat
      You put salt

    • @vaulthecreator
      @vaulthecreator 6 лет назад +39

      What I want to know is if they successfully got chlorine banned what the hell would they do about all the naturally occurring chlorine? It's the same damn element.
      What's next? Ridding the world of dihydrogen monoxide?!

  • @nothachicka1212
    @nothachicka1212 6 лет назад +2

    Now if the public would only wake up to the Suzuki Foundation! Thank you for this

  • @sudhirpatel7620
    @sudhirpatel7620 5 лет назад +5

    The family loves each other until the Will is read.

  • @DaanWaardenburg
    @DaanWaardenburg 8 лет назад +42

    As a physicist I experience this every day..... The solution to our problems is already out there, we however fear change in many different ways.

    • @mpw4c
      @mpw4c 8 лет назад

      +Daan W. Ist really funny though that we live in constant change. Why should we fear it, cant we accept it anstead? That is what i try to do at least.

    • @syncaudio2758
      @syncaudio2758 2 года назад

      @@mpw4c damn bro u dumb change is not not using plastic

    • @allergy5634
      @allergy5634 Год назад

      Imagine a world where we didn’t reject nuclear power and GMOs out of fewr

  • @PepinsSpot
    @PepinsSpot 7 лет назад +58

    I like this guy. Having the balls to stand up against USA nuclear testing and later having the balls to leave the same organization he co-founded!

    • @drumraine6910
      @drumraine6910 6 лет назад +1

      Me too. Unfortunately, he then joined a fake university heavily funded by Dan and Farris Wilks (fracking billionaires).

  • @LM-kt2er
    @LM-kt2er 3 года назад +9

    As a kid I was a bully (not proud about that). I used intimidation and fear to get Kids to do stuff. It always surprises me at how well fear and intimidation works on adults. I think adults are much more easier to manipulate because adults have more fears to use against them. Fear of losing their job, scared their children are in jeopardy, fear of not being accepted by others, fear of the world ending, fear of death, fear of going to jail, fear they aren’t perfect, fear the sky is going to fall, etc.... too easy lol. Be courageous and face all your fears face to face and know Gods has your back.

    • @TheRisskee
      @TheRisskee 3 года назад

      I was a bullied kid but I'm sure I was also a bully at some point. I even had a class bully apologize to me many years after leaving school and we both felt happier. (to be honest, his bullying of the whole class was actually kind of comedic relief we all needed at the time and more often than not, he made himself look like a fool so it wasn't all that bad when he picked on us. Lol) We all learn and we all grow. The point is that you changed your behavior and realized how it made other people feel and for that, you're to be commended so, don't beat yourself up over it.
      And you're very right. It's extremely easy to control people when you shove fear in their face. In this day and age, just let people know you don't care about fear and nothing they can do is going to make you bend to their will. If a movement is truly ethical and moral, you will be able to tell by how they conduct themselves.
      Also like the kidnapping concept. If you're being kidnapped, do everything you can to get away so they don't take you to the second location. Don't ever give in and keep fighting. If someone puts a gun to my head and say they'll kill me if I do or don't do something, I'm looking them straight in the eye and I'm going to say "go ahead. Kill me then. Because I'm not going to do what you want me to."

  • @CarlosFernandez-tf3yv
    @CarlosFernandez-tf3yv 5 лет назад +3

    Thank you, Mr Patrick M
    oore

  • @harleybynature
    @harleybynature 6 лет назад +262

    Want to join Green Peace?
    Me: no thank you, I like my drinking water and would like to end world hunger.

    • @MrYorickJenkins
      @MrYorickJenkins 5 лет назад +7

      End world hunger? Then export condoms to Africa and if they dont use them cut of all aid

    • @GabrielWarlock
      @GabrielWarlock 4 года назад +3

      @@MrYorickJenkins You can't just throw stuff at people and hope they'll know how to use them

    • @Jackywhaler
      @Jackywhaler 4 года назад +2

      Do you also believe Monsanto Roundup is not a probably carcinogen? Do you believe that it is harmless to humans and that you'd drink a whole quart of the stuff? Because Patrick Moore does! I hate Greenpeace, but I hate idiots like Patrick Moore, more than that. Don't make a claim if you aren't ready to back it up.

    • @myday805
      @myday805 3 года назад +1

      @@MrYorickJenkins A more effective strategy would be to wipe out the warlords as they're the one's causing the famines by both taking control of and destroying the food production and using food as a beating stick to control the populations.

  • @beefyoso
    @beefyoso 9 лет назад +51

    Don't get me started on what they did in Peru.

    • @Will-cb4wb
      @Will-cb4wb 9 лет назад +4

      beefyoso the actions of a few shouldn't define the many, i worked with that organization as a canvasser for a few weeks and i can tell you everyone i worked with really want to make the difference and do good for the environment

    • @pisasupayani
      @pisasupayani 9 лет назад +48

      wilson Diaz Results matter. Intentions dont. In my country these cunts were protesting against, Thermal plants , Nuclear plants and "Hydro plants" when thousands of farmers lack proper all round electricity supply. They can wipe my ass for all I care with their "difference making attitude"

    • @Will-cb4wb
      @Will-cb4wb 9 лет назад +3

      Kamalakumar K that is really true which really makes me conflicted about it since I can account for both sides, i think instead of terminating green peace they should impose a new leadership of more educated and professional experts to tackle the real problems that don't help neither people nor the environment

    • @OxAO
      @OxAO 9 лет назад +1

      Kamalakumar K said, "Intentions dont (matter)"
      I have to disagree with this. Intentions not fully thought through can often go wrong. That doesn't mean the intent wasn't noble.
      If you only look at results and not the attempt we wouldn't have learned to fly or create any innovations that we have today.

    • @OxAO
      @OxAO 9 лет назад

      *****
      Good intentions can often go wrong. It shouldn't be discredited because of good intent.

  • @mateusbrazil9487
    @mateusbrazil9487 6 лет назад +4

    I didn't know about a GOLDEN RICE, but now I want it!

  • @hbarudi
    @hbarudi 5 лет назад +16

    Greenpeace failed its primary green objective which is to push alternative energy forward and lower its cost.

    • @bayuplay10
      @bayuplay10 5 лет назад

      Yeah that should be the objective/mission. They failed their own mission.

    • @Izingana
      @Izingana 4 года назад

      Sari Çizmeli Mehmet Ağa Check the miles deep caves where they store the waste for 100.000 years and tell me ‘it’s clean’ again.

    • @jchinckley
      @jchinckley 3 года назад

      @@Izingana That's why it's miles deep. That way, unless nature decides otherwise with a massive earthquake, the waste will slowly deteriorate into mostly harmless elements. The only problem might be if it was stored too close to the area's water table, something not very likely.

    • @Izingana
      @Izingana 3 года назад

      Sari Çizmeli Mehmet Ağa For you no problem, ofcourse, but your kids and grandkids..

    • @Izingana
      @Izingana 3 года назад

      jchinckley 100.000 years before it’s harmless! Do you know how many things happened/changed in this world the past 2000 years alone?! Politics, wars, desasters, technology..

  • @parttoon8305
    @parttoon8305 7 лет назад +236

    If you ban Chlorine, no more table salt O_O

    • @dariusq8894
      @dariusq8894 5 лет назад +18

      Yup, just like in Demolition Man - "Salt is bad for you, therefore illegal."

    • @geertvddries
      @geertvddries 5 лет назад

      which would be great...

    • @minhtrungle9117
      @minhtrungle9117 5 лет назад +19

      +Geert Van den Dries ... Until you get hyponatremia.

    • @MrDemirarslan
      @MrDemirarslan 5 лет назад +4

      that is sodium cloride

    • @debracharles-clay5202
      @debracharles-clay5202 5 лет назад +4

      Salt from sea water is more healthy.

  • @TickedOffPriest
    @TickedOffPriest 9 лет назад +33

    I do not see any environmentalist protesting the local pool.

    • @TickedOffPriest
      @TickedOffPriest 9 лет назад +4

      *****
      I do not want to.

    • @ActuallyDavid
      @ActuallyDavid 9 лет назад

      ***** TickedOff Priest That's not true at all. Maybe if you live in Russia.

    • @tare_
      @tare_ 9 лет назад

      ***** Europe ain't a country. It's not like the US

    • @10INTM
      @10INTM 9 лет назад +3

      ***** Nobody said it was a country.

  • @iangraham2452
    @iangraham2452 4 года назад +11

    I remember when Patrick Moore was one of the starting principals in Green Peace, and I have not have not appreciated the direction the organization has headed in over the years. I am so glad to here Patrick disassociated himself with this group as I believed he was still the point man behind it.

  • @joelukule-lee2982
    @joelukule-lee2982 2 года назад

    Thank you Mr. Moore for that explanation. I read your book a couple months ago, and I enjoyed it very much. My awareness of environmental issues has improved.

  • @jfallas
    @jfallas 8 лет назад +105

    As part of their ban on Chlorine, Greenpeace wanted to ban Polyvinyl chloride or PVC, used for making plumbing tubes more cheaper and easier to use than metal ones, lowering housing construction costs in developing contries and helping to provide clean water.
    That is the moral decrepitude of this organization.

    • @drahcirnevarc9152
      @drahcirnevarc9152 7 лет назад +10

      I'm sorry, but I have to swear at this point. Greenpeace are arseholes.

    • @DavidJGillCA
      @DavidJGillCA 6 лет назад +4

      Like pesticides, herbicides and fertilizers PVC is usefull and helpful and in some ways needed but the effects of are devastating and Greenpeace was right!. You want to ignore all those problems because of your own arrogant political bias. In truth you are just as bad as environmental extremeists - you ignore the full facts and make a biased case with only the facts you like.

    • @CadetGriffin
      @CadetGriffin 6 лет назад

      "Asbestos has been used in construction sites, shipyards and railroads, and now they want to phase it out."
      Asbestos can cause lung cancer!
      "So can smoking, but not all smokers have cancer!"
      Smokers smoke voluntarily, but many people wouldn't know if their house had asbestos or not.
      "Smokers wouldn't know their cigarettes were harmful either!"
      How can I find out if my house has asbestos or not?
      "Find out when it was built! All houses within a certain range have asbestos and all houses after that don't!"
      But how do I find the asbestos in my house?
      "It's in carpets and stuff!"
      But I don't want to catch it on my body!
      "Then don't live in that house! If you don't want asbestos, don't move into old houses!"
      Then there'll be lots of empty houses and we'd have to build lots of new houses!
      "So what? Some can be demolished and rebuilt!"
      But are they getting rid of the asbestos?
      "Yes!"
      But doesn't that cost the cities?
      "It's worth it."
      "CFCs have been used in aerosol spray cans, and now they want to stop manufacturers from putting them in spray cans."
      CFCs make a hole in the ozone layer and the hole's been shrinking since we've banned them!
      "Well no one lives in Antarctica anyway. The governments could just ban people from going to Antarctica and re-legalize CFCs then."
      The scientists don't count?
      "They technically don't live there."
      But they're subject to UV radiation.
      "Vehicles and buildings can keep the UV out."

    • @kylehankins5988
      @kylehankins5988 6 лет назад +1

      so we should ban PVC. You can pay to replumb my house with whatever substitute you like

    • @adamtki
      @adamtki 6 лет назад +1

      A lot of solutions look great in the short term. Take a look at the plastic water bottle. In its short lifetime of usage, it provides cheap water to millions of people and doesn't cause any harm to the environment. Now take a look at it 100 years later. The plastic pieces have broken up into many pieces and may end up in the guts of various animals. It releases toxins and attracts pollutants. The damage from a single bottle may seem insignificant, but multiply that by the billions over time and it'll be a huge negative impact on our future generations. Everything we make needs to be examined for its long term effect. Long term as in 100s of years, not just a few years. Often we are simply passing the damage to future generations without realizing it.

  • @HaranYakir
    @HaranYakir 9 лет назад +162

    Hi look! A PragUni vid that is spot on with little to no deception tactics. Good on you. The thing is, you have such an awful reputation for being deceptive jerks that if I try to use this vid to convince people the mere fact that it was made by you is going to drive their suspicions through the roof.

    • @orssidia
      @orssidia 9 лет назад +57

      Well if they are willing to judge a video without or before watching it, then good luck trying to convince them using anything.
      You can't always find sources you agree with everything on.

    • @KamisamanoOtaku
      @KamisamanoOtaku 9 лет назад +20

      ***** So... you're saying that you're dealing with people that don't use logic but rely on emotions? Good luck reasoning with them.

    • @alex132FIN
      @alex132FIN 9 лет назад +21

      Kami-sama no Otaku Prager University is not a trusted source. The founder is known for his climate change denialism, general anti-intellectualism and homophobia. Not to mention that all of the "courses" are 5-minute videos on VERY nuanced topics, where the "professors" only give very simple-minded, black-and-white answers.

    • @KamisamanoOtaku
      @KamisamanoOtaku 9 лет назад +8

      Alex Kjellman So you recommend them highly then?
      I don't trust sources that take terms like "climate change denialism" and "homophobia" seriously as they are only serious terms because dangerous religious fanatics (that fancy themselves *not* to be religious) employ them to combat actual intellectual discourse. "Anti-intellectualism" sadly isn't a useful term because the anti-intellectuals are the ones that use it all the time; people that don't want to think about or discuss a matter but instead want simple-minded adherence to their own dogma.
      I suppose this is effective on those poor folks that may have just barely begun to wake up from the lies being feed to them. When you constantly see that reality doesn't match what you're being told, you start searching for answers and if you're not finding them quickly enough, when someone shouts at you to get back into line, one tends to capitulate.

    • @HaranYakir
      @HaranYakir 9 лет назад +5

      Kami-sama no Otaku
      Mike Hunt
      Have you ever considered looking into the opposing view, as I and Alex Kjellman are doing by watching PragUni vids?
      I'm not saying you go watch Vox, as they are heavily biased towards the other side, but at least try to look into it from a different point of view.
      RE: anti-intellectualism. I'm not sure what Alex meant, but as I see it, PragUni picks and chooses which science they can use to further their preexisting ideology, and which science they just don't like so are willing to wave it off with some deceptive rhetoric.
      For example, they are following the science when it comes to GMOs. Here their capitalist world view is in line with the science so they accept it. But when it comes to man made climate change, the science says the opposite of what they want to believe, so they want to ignore and discredit it.

  • @dawnruhl8405
    @dawnruhl8405 4 года назад +1

    I'm no fan of GMOs however that rice is intriguing. Didn't know it existed.

    • @christinaparks3686
      @christinaparks3686 3 года назад

      It was rice modified with vitamin A to prevent blindness in children in 3rd world countries

  • @giorgiocooper9023
    @giorgiocooper9023 5 лет назад +22

    Environmentalism, feminism, socialism, liberalism have all outlived their initial purpose in the Western world - hence “to be scrapped” the sooner the better !

    • @tanyarawat9700
      @tanyarawat9700 4 года назад +1

      The west gotta burn to keep the east from freezing😪😪😪

    • @beatrizviacava-goulet3450
      @beatrizviacava-goulet3450 4 года назад

      Plus is Green Peace duopoly controlled....like dems g..new d...a pretend to care w/ fail ends because they like to create situations to keep doing their ways all along...
      The original efforts continue untainted with REAL SCIENCE REAL UNBURIED HISTORIES to uplift humanly the PLANET we are ONE HUMAN RACE is 2020 the peace at heart and open minded will see the next chapter...not the people who knowingly or unknowingly will perpetuate this primitive reality...in the past greed and careless power was and continues? the end of many civilizations...let the universal law of peace upgrade us...the future now if we really care learn and pass it forward to not repeat but correct it...NOW NOT LATER...
      Globalgreens . org
      Because is what really matters...our concerns...not their profits on our expense...

  • @fnsilly8983
    @fnsilly8983 7 лет назад +107

    I can't believe I'm working for Greenpeace. I also can't believe it's hard to get a straight answer.

    • @jeffreymoore8708
      @jeffreymoore8708 7 лет назад +2

      Table haha! I like the play on words

    • @Pkroc138
      @Pkroc138 6 лет назад

      Do you still work for greenpeace?

  • @american23t
    @american23t 8 лет назад +22

    A once noble cause that has become fraught with, hypocrisy, inefficiency & corruption. Who would of figured?

    • @JuanGabrielOyolaCardona
      @JuanGabrielOyolaCardona 8 лет назад +9

      like religion.

    • @user-nr6gy5lh6b
      @user-nr6gy5lh6b 7 лет назад +13

      and feminism

    • @american23t
      @american23t 7 лет назад

      +YoSoyGabo Like so that say they are Religious. Blame not that for those who are corrupt within it. For that witch is all good, shall purge itself, in do good time, of the evil within. Remember a 3rd of heaven fell away before man or earth were formed.

    • @elchungo5026
      @elchungo5026 6 лет назад

      Roarn'Leon *cough cough* communism and feminism

    • @321abcable
      @321abcable 6 лет назад

      It's would have not would of figured lol

  • @everettbrown5583
    @everettbrown5583 3 года назад

    Good for you Mr.Moore! A man with practical sense and not afraid to use it.

    • @doughboy1271
      @doughboy1271 2 месяца назад

      I’d trust Mr Moore if he wasn’t sharing this information on PragerU

  • @lanceknightmare
    @lanceknightmare 5 лет назад +1

    Respect for being one of the early members of Green Peace. I place chlorine up there with penicillin. Science was my third weakest subject in school.

  • @FruityHachi
    @FruityHachi 8 лет назад +29

    there would be no need for golden rice if the crops that are grown to feed factory farmed animals were used to feed people instead

    • @gregb6469
      @gregb6469 8 лет назад +4

      +FruityHachi --But those factory farmed animals are then eaten by people!

    • @FruityHachi
      @FruityHachi 8 лет назад +6

      +Greg B exactly. it´s a waste of crops. there´s enough food to feed all the humans, but because half or the majority of crops go to feed farmed animals which are than eaten by people in wealthy countries, people in
      3rd world countries are starving.

    • @FruityHachi
      @FruityHachi 8 лет назад +8

      +Greg B
      exactly, poor distribution of food from poor countries to wealthy countries. from feeding farmed animals to feed people in wealthy countries and not feeding crops directly to humans in poor countries. that´s poor distribution, and it goes hand in hand with bad governments since only a bad government could give its crops to wealthy nations instead of its own people. but if the fault would be bad governments, than why would an introduction of golden rice secure food for all in those countries? why would the governments let people to be fed golden rice, but not the crops which they grow and which they could eat if wouldn´t be fed to livestock instead?
      back to grain distribution, fao.org/fileadmin/user_upload/animalwelfare/HSI--The%20Impact%20of%20Industrialized%20Animal%20Agriculture%20on%20World%20Hunger.pdf this report states that feeding crops to cattle and other land animals is not sustainable and people in western countries should reduce their meat and other animal products intake
      we could just by-pass the animals and invent lab-grown meat, or we could go straight to plants.
      "It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes. "

    • @FruityHachi
      @FruityHachi 8 лет назад +7

      +Greg B nope, you´re misunderstanding me. what i meant by that is that poor countries feed their crops to farmed animals, which are than used for meat which weatlhy countries eat.
      again, you did not answer my questions: if the fault would be bad governments, than why would an introduction of golden rice secure food for all in those countries? why would the governments let people to be fed golden rice, but not the crops which they grow and which they could eat if wouldn´t be fed to livestock instead?
      and you completely ignored the link i posted. as well as feeding crops to farmed animals IS a poor distribution because we could just by-pass the animals and invent lab-grown meat, or we could go straight to plants, since even American Dietetic Association states humans don´t need meat to survive.

    • @bsnxenogear
      @bsnxenogear 8 лет назад +3

      This is a uniquely 1st world thing. Here we eat Soy we don't feed it to farm animals. If you had a more nutritious form of rice there is no reason not to have it. It shows a supreme form of ignorance to think that somehow a starved population would rather feed their farm animals rather than themselves.

  • @nothingdos
    @nothingdos 6 лет назад +14

    How can you ban an element (that isn’t synthetic) ?

  • @gabrielduarte1133
    @gabrielduarte1133 5 лет назад

    When i clicked in this video a Greenpeace ad appeared.

  • @LeeONardo
    @LeeONardo 6 лет назад

    Another name I see is AVAAZ, are they in a similar situation or are they generally okay?

  • @thesagesapprentice383
    @thesagesapprentice383 6 лет назад +131

    Funny how people tend to be dumb and headstrong while their young, then calculating and deliberate when older.

    • @recouer
      @recouer 5 лет назад +16

      i think it rather shows a defeat in rationalism in our society, i've come to the same conclusion as him concerning Greenpeace and i'm around his age when he started the movement

    • @collaborisgaming2190
      @collaborisgaming2190 5 лет назад +2

      @@recouer i can agree on that. division can make tribalism and decentralization thus easy conquering. but who for that matter would have the knowledge basis to form such plans let alone plan the take over piece by piece of a great republic whom forgot what made it great *plays X-files theme* (joke meant to rev up the thinking engines.)
      i saw what made it great was the service to the people for the people by the people, no parties to boggle down efforts nor political manipulation and scheming for glory or fighting over who fixes what and who's name is taught in history class in who's fixed classroom
      back when the people mattered to politicians and were not deplorable cattle who said yes to singular issues. sometimes we must learn the value of freedom, before we can enjoy it. to appreciate and give high effort. what made it great were the people being served by the law in co-creating the world around them, it was their American dream, it was their home and it was very beautiful. they left legacies. fear mongering of national security led to secrets being kept and dark deeds befalling the reputation of the government if it was not the party bigotry that started it
      sometimes we must say to the "Enough fighting all of you or we will impeach you all ourselves to place in power by all of our unity someone who will get the issue resolved no matter if it costs him re-election nor his career" all of this is about keeping power and money in pockets by delaying to fix so many issues. civil rights would of been unnecessary if the people enforced the 14th amendment properly, the CVA (Civil Rights Act) was just a "you better adhere to the 14th amendment pronto, cuz it's here to stay like rock and roll"
      being in the American government should mean, you can serve the people, not your party, but your people, the ones who elected you in. and there shall be pride in it. the first words of the living document, the constitution, "We the people" not "we the CEOs" or "we the Parties". this is the people's land, this is the land where the people lead. therefore we not them shall be the artificial selectors of this country's multitude of evolution. nothing shall stop the people from getting what they desire. "America first" this also should mean "all Americans take initiative" like they did back then. take the jobs otherwise held by immigrants who are taken here just to work before they are filled no matter the conditions of said jobs. get the job then get the government to check for wrong doings. back in the great depression the Americans took pride in their work as co-creators of this democracy. a job would be the greatest Christmas gift and direct cash aid given would be given back in pride after recovery. today, we take their sacrifices for granted and we lose sense of ourselves, balance hard work with smart work. as both are necessary. today we have too much of the other but back in the Guilded Age (we can thank mark twain for naming it for us) people worked too hard. with no smarts they couldn't check leadership for bad apples thus the whole orchard became bad apples and the government farmer just sat back and watched the mutation and did not know better. brain and braun in balance or sophistication within allocations of the free peoples whom still adopt the extremes of brain or muscle. essentially good team work in the right places. to balance the polarization and breaking of rules and law. and for that we need all the views in the land to come together and chart the best map of the battlefield to plan the greatest offensive against the worse of enemies, the problems that bog all efforts down. my say on that matter, the party system. if there were no parties then there would only be people to serve on duty in the lands that make law. government may of been called evil but it is the man at the hilt that can make the devil's steel sword truly wicked.
      i request this wisdom taken on my behalf so that we may find our sun again to revolve around as a once again united solar system or house of planets. "a house divided against itself cannot stand" Abraham Lincoln said this. the house, or the union or the US divided by party VS Party against itself or against unity cannot stand through the real trials of the times. ensure the greatest of compromises and sympathies be given next time one is on the table of politics that we all act as professional citizens and as role models. that anger is never an answer as much as they say violence is. but instead understanding is. that decisions can be repealed as they much as they can be enacted and thus can be used like maneuvers for a vehicle to keep clear of the hazards that cause these terrible decisions (meant to also not single anyone out) to be made. so are we ready to do that barrel role now for the sake of democracy and not the oligarchs in the parties and Cooperate (big business) towers? (sounds odd i know but, we must follow the commands of the people, not the oligarchs who lead the party direction as they are easily as much as a source of the problem as our division is.).

    • @recouer
      @recouer 5 лет назад

      @@collaborisgaming2190
      i'm a yellow vest xD

    • @collaborisgaming2190
      @collaborisgaming2190 5 лет назад +1

      @@recouer good luck to a fellow patriot. did some research of the yellow jacket movement. looks like you pulled of decentralization correctly. uniting the people around the cause and service and not a leader no party. that's the way protest should be done. let the individual in the allied causes be secondary.
      concerning the high living cost getting higher and salaries staying the same in the US as well. i fear it may be the rise of a new guilded age, where once again we get trapped in wage slavery due to taxes and other factors that literally takes all of our money away. i heard problems like these are often rooted in central banks not taxes now-a-days with better labor laws. however it will cause the government to raise taxes to pay debt to said central banks. as they are the banks for banks and they make money by issuing debt. slavery originally began as a way to pay off debt. it is not far to say the central bank's biggest negative effect is that we become slaves to them because of our debt to them literally makes us work our entire lives to pay off our debt to them, and because our savings are literally spent away every other "economic crisis" vacations are nearly impossible
      Debt can do a lot, it started WW2 because the debt made the Germans resent the allies who pinned it on them. the Nazis took power and along with it they raised their own war machine from almost nothing. thus they were the first country to get out of the great depression. it was the debt issued by the US Central bank reserve in WW1 and the entaunt's pinning of the debt on a country ill able to pay it (Germany) that we got the Great depression (because the entire economy in the US was structured at the time to be ready to receive payment for all the loans they made in WW1) then we got Germany backed into a corner because of it and that and the Rise of the Nazis starting WW2 and its whole new set of debt that the WW1 war debt has only been paid off finally in 2010. almost a century after the debt was issued to a country claimed to have started the war (even though it was the Austria Hungarians who first declared war and it was Serbia's terrorist group, "black hand" that assassinated the prince of that old empire that caused the declaration of war in the first place, if that happened to us we would easily declare war hands down. Germany was pinned because they had the best industry in the world and frankly were the best weapon makers the world had to offer at the time. after WW2 they wanted to convert Germany to a farming nation because, during the war, they invented the ICBM (via V-2 rocket), German notes got tested in the Ivy mike prototype so they were literal hard water shipments away from inventing the nuke 4 years before the Americans (Germans started atomic weapons research in 1937, project Manhattan started in 41 when the US entered the war because Einstein told them what the Germans were doing) did, they invented the Assault rifle with the MP-43 (it outclassed the Browning Assault Rifle because the BAR was not really an assault rifle but a quick put together of a WW1 Light machine gun didn't start completely from scratch like the germans did the the SturmGhewer (literally German for "assault rifle" hitler gave it that name out of how impressed he was with it.)). that became the inspiration for the AK-47. they in WW1 invented fighter planes, bombers, War submarines (U-boats) trains with artillery (Kubelwagens) mechanized infantry, very formidable tanks especially the tiger tank. had the best camouflage out of any faction in the war, had the best AA guns and even the fastest artillery guns as well as the best trained soldiers in the war that could give the marines a run for their money. the helmets we see today they covered the back of head and neck was from the German Stalhelm. we took that from them, even their basic rifles were better than ours. several gun companies took Luger's, mauser's, and Kurtz's and made their best guns with in. such as the Springfield rifle, the infamous trench gun, and even some elements in the M1 Garand. the Germans had the best Machine guns and had the first hand held machine gun with the MG-34 but because it was too expensive they made MG-42s that were heavier. not to mention the best bunkers. the worse thing about them were their Nazi ideology and their tactics were terrible. but they will were good fighters. Italy was difficult to take because of German assistance to the Italian black-skirts. the most respected general out of the entire war for the axis was Erwin Rommel, dessert fox. not only was he a good example of what a Sturmtrooper could do (in WW1) he stormed Italy with German forces (back when he was a leftenant) to give relief to the Austrians and when the rest of the Germans retreated. he took 100 of his guys most of them wounded including himself. stormed enemy trenches and took 9000 enemy soldiers prisoner. the Italians were better fighters in WW1 then they were in WW2. and Rommel in WW2 (it was also the next time after WW1 he ever stepped on a battle field, this time as a General) held north Africa, a land area almost twice the size of the European Reich and Held it with less forces for years. it took the dessert resistance who fought like animals to make a dent on the Africakorps. and one reason D-Day was very successful despite casualties was because they trained against Rommel with amphibious landings in Africa to test their gear and they trained a good amount of the greenhorns to be how they were during D-Day along side landing techniques)
      easily all of this was more than enough reason to fear and want to down grade Germany to a AG country. look at them today in research. they have the most solar power in the world (granted that it was more costly) the Germans are still bent on improving more so, than the cooperation, in the US are and if we forget in the American revolution the person who drilled all the American troops was a German named Friedrich Wilhelm Von Steuben.
      moral of the story: Debt and rising financial difficulty will cause political havok and bloodshed especially if power is taken by the wrong people on terms of keeping peace. the Russian revolution was because the rise of prices did not match the elevation of income. same for the Great depression. the 2010s are the new roaring 20s and if we let it, we might have another great depression-like event before we have another world war. by the time 2050 comes around. i hope the yellow jacket movement succeeds personally and it doesn't become corrupt in anyway. to get another shoe for the unprotected foot and not put the single shoe on the other foot. as it simply destroys the message of equality downright.

    • @recouer
      @recouer 5 лет назад +1

      ​@@collaborisgaming2190
      well corrupting a whole population will prove difficult as our first priority is to pass
      a "citizens' initiative referendum"(référendum d'initiative populaire) in order to allow more popular representation in the government so that there does not exist a rift between our people and our elite that seems they do not even know what poverty means.
      also, do not that french have a long standing history of social fights through manifestation, in the latter years, and decapitation in the earliest. and we always managed to bring about great structural changes to our work conditions and social conditions in general. take for example the manifestation in 1936 which lead to a 40 hours a week of work, paid leaves and an increase in salary from 7% to 15%. and in the 1968 protests, we’ve had an increase of 35% of the minimum wage and an increase of 10% of salaries. and those protests always came with a destitution or change of government, because at those times, political parties still represented the populace.
      however, now, with those new revendications, what did we get ? only a decrease of 100 euros of for the lowest wages or to put it less nicely, almost nothing.
      also, i don’t think that we will see a decay of this movement, on the contrary, on every streets, people supports the movement and only a privileged few doesn’t. and so even with the many attempts of the government to divide us, with a diabolisation campaign, almost parodic from how cliché it is. in fact, in france, every news channel or media is owned by one of the powerful few, those same that put great lobbying pressure to a lethargic government that does not even try to think by themselves and only approves what the lobbyist tells them to approve…
      and so since our government does not take priority in our wellbeing but in the economic prosperity of those powerful few, they are left with subtle stratagem in order to mislead us and make us fight among ourselves so that we cannot see the problem, thus creating a fake disparity between parties even though they do apply the exact same policy, making us fight for stupid reasons, diverting our attention, using terrorism only to justify a decrease in individual liberties etc…
      i could go on for a very long time as our representation system is corrupt in nearly every scale.
      however, do note that politician have only became a parody of themselves as they can say a thing and its exact opposite the same day so that they could amass as much vote from themselves since people would interpret their evasive term how they like it most and so you get free votes without the need to respect your earliest pledges. and this has became clearly apparent with the program of our actual president, which he did not have, even one month before the election. that did not stop people from voting for him though…
      and with this representation crisis, we are only left with one revendication, for us to gain sovereignty, which could only be met if we had an actual impact in the decisionary system, using a referendum, but we can see how well our actual dictator or president, likes the idea of a government made for its people ...

  • @JuandelaCruz001
    @JuandelaCruz001 8 лет назад +185

    The pervasive law/phenomenon of entropy seeps into everything, including what we humans call "institutions". That is why dissent is a necessary voice in any organization.

    • @JuanGabrielOyolaCardona
      @JuanGabrielOyolaCardona 8 лет назад

      :)

    • @teemum.9023
      @teemum.9023 6 лет назад +2

      How about organizing discussion and decision making to fight against that instead of "dissenting"? Dissenters are put to marginal systematically. Nobody wants some dissenter around, even if they themselves wanted to fight for the right cause.

    • @redsquirrel3893
      @redsquirrel3893 6 лет назад

      And important to have educated people on the board leading the direction of multi million pound organisations.

    • @JohnJones1987
      @JohnJones1987 6 лет назад +3

      This sounds smart but doesn't mean anything. If chaos seeps into everything, what you're really saying is that it seeps into institutions are a greater rate (or accumulates to toxic levels) compared to smaller collections of people. Thus entropy isn't really relevant here, if it were even the cause. The mechanism by which it is attracted to or builds up in institutes is the problem, which is not a law or a necessary evil, but something humans are actively doing. tl;dr, your making a case that this is an inevitable law of physics, but it's not. Something is happening very much deliberately, and I think the answer is good old corruption of values.

    • @ninjahombrepalito1721
      @ninjahombrepalito1721 6 лет назад +1

      Green Peace might be wrong, but this video is not completely right. There are better ways to produce drinkable water than adding cancerous substances to it. And GMOs can save the world today, ruin it tomorrow. It is because of GMOs that many people lost their food production, and who knows how it will affect the health and development of future generations.

  • @ikelewis5860
    @ikelewis5860 Год назад +1

    This is the same guy who claimed drinking round up was safe

  • @g_323
    @g_323 5 лет назад

    «It is convenient to know that war is common to all things and that justice is discord». Heráclito.

  • @funkiiimunkiii8712
    @funkiiimunkiii8712 6 лет назад +128

    Those three words just about sum up modern liberalism.

    • @ripp846
      @ripp846 6 лет назад +14

      Yep. These are the "progressives". Crazy as hell.

    • @willtomasini1
      @willtomasini1 5 лет назад +3

      Which ones?

  • @theepicmaxgod9648
    @theepicmaxgod9648 7 лет назад +30

    I despise Greenpeace now. These sorts of people are unnecessary oppositions to all progress. With this kind of thinking, humanity is going to kill itself.

    • @geertvddries
      @geertvddries 5 лет назад +4

      No they are not. Putting the world in the hands of unthoughtfull 'progress' is indeed extremely dangerous. In that perspective, humanity will indeed kill itself (and with this kind of thinking, maybe that's the only way to save the world…)

  • @deltaboss1190
    @deltaboss1190 5 лет назад

    Wow, I used to believe all those things are bad. But now it just got me thinking and question more. Thank you Bjorn and Patrick.

  • @beedleez3605
    @beedleez3605 3 года назад

    and they even tell lego to end their partnership with shell.

  • @cecilelee2442
    @cecilelee2442 6 лет назад +28

    I knew a woman on the Greenpeace board who spent a great deal of time jetting around to national and international meetings, often meetng up with her Greenpeace lover. Keep that in mind, next time they ask for your money.

  • @mammyoriordan
    @mammyoriordan 9 лет назад +5

    That's just heartbreaking - so many noble institutions have been infected - We seem to always need to go back to the drawing board and see where we went wrong and have the courage and humility to admit we have gone wrong. We are wonderful creatures but we do have a fallen nature and need to constantly weed the garden so to speak and you can't weed the garden unless you know the difference between a good plant and an invasive, destructive weed - ignorance is dangerous but ignorance is even worse when those who are knowledgeable are not listened to. - Rene

  • @bigbaba1111
    @bigbaba1111 4 года назад +1

    It's like in Germany where most of the founders of the green party have left the party.

  • @stevenleejobe
    @stevenleejobe 5 лет назад

    Interesting video and I learned something. I did not know about golden rice, and I had no idea that there could be anything good about a GMO. Still, I am wary. If you give an inch, doesn’t Monsanto come rushing in? Just thinking out loud.

  • @TheTSense
    @TheTSense 6 лет назад +10

    Greenpeace.
    Green stands for "forcing our will on others" and the peace stands for "forcing our will on others".
    Doesn't make sense, but rolls much better

  • @brendanmostek4723
    @brendanmostek4723 9 лет назад +3

    I love how he says that humans are interconnected with nature, then 10 seconds later says that we have a "moral obligation" to eradicate species that we deem inferior.

  • @phillipw6389
    @phillipw6389 5 лет назад +1

    This guy once said in an interview that glyphosate was safe to drink, that you 'could drink a whole quart of it'. When the interviewer gave him a glass of the stuff to drink, he bolted from the interview. Glyphosate is now on a list of probable carcinogens.

  • @di0112
    @di0112 4 года назад

    Yes

  • @kylesenior
    @kylesenior 7 лет назад +32

    He's incorrect in his statement that the US stop testing thermonuclear (hydrogen) bombs. The last thermonuclear test carried out out by the US was in 1992. He may have been referring to high-yield tests. After the Alaskan test (~5Mt tnt), the US and Russia agreed to limit their tests to 150kt.

    • @vloepkleedje
      @vloepkleedje 7 лет назад

      might have been the last test for a long time at the time they were protesting, thus the feeling of victory.

    • @blingbling574
      @blingbling574 6 лет назад +1

      kylesenior Old fart probably got facts mixed up, that was a while ago.

    • @Bialy_1
      @Bialy_1 6 лет назад +3

      He was protesting about explosions in the atmosphere... You are as scientificaly corect as the chlorine ban scientists.

    • @CadetGriffin
      @CadetGriffin 6 лет назад

      I think he was just referring to tests in Alaska.

  • @whhe11
    @whhe11 7 лет назад +228

    Problem with green peace is they aren't pragmatic, nuclear energy and gmos are not bad. Used responsibly they can help to save us from global warming and save the environment. I cant stand the anti nuclear energy anti gmo stances don't be against those things be pro responsibility pro regulation and pro science.

    • @drahcirnevarc9152
      @drahcirnevarc9152 7 лет назад +4

      +William Harrison
      Well said!

    • @hedgeearthridge6807
      @hedgeearthridge6807 6 лет назад +1

      Well said!
      Nuclear energy is the future! Whether it be Uranium, Thorium, or in the far future: Hydrogen Fusion.

    • @jayyyzeee6409
      @jayyyzeee6409 6 лет назад +4

      Emphasis on the phrase "used responsibly". GMOs haven't been used responsibly, so they deserve the bad reputation.

    • @infinityryvus
      @infinityryvus 6 лет назад +5

      I might replace "regulation" with "oversight." Regulation tends to put people into positions of power, whereby they proceed to continue or expand their power and justify their position by any means available. Usually to the detriment of everyone else. Like a cancer, their own continuance trumps the survival of their host.

    • @majdavlk649
      @majdavlk649 6 лет назад

      are those regulations voluntary or not? i am against enforced regulations,the market can egulate itself,but i agree with everything else in your comment

  • @blakeshannon9800
    @blakeshannon9800 5 лет назад +1

    My existence as I grew I became More and more distrustful and suspicious
    of everything...2018, October... it’s still the case...

  • @maevahanisi
    @maevahanisi 5 лет назад

    Wow! Thanks!

  • @JulioMLopez-ic3dl
    @JulioMLopez-ic3dl 7 лет назад +229

    (Sarcastically) Your videos and the truth offend me. I consider both to be considered microaggressions. I think I'll lock myself up in my safe space.

    • @arctic3032
      @arctic3032 6 лет назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/1aoWVRhgEqI/видео.html

    • @flyboy6392
      @flyboy6392 6 лет назад +3

      For some reason I thought it would be a link to South Park's safe space song

    • @Malbutorius
      @Malbutorius 6 лет назад +1

      Good, that means you can keep your stupidity from spreading. :P

    • @allew7646
      @allew7646 6 лет назад +1

      Julio M. Lopez That isn't what sarcasm means.

    • @vampcell
      @vampcell 6 лет назад

      Julio M. Lopez (sarcastically) uhhh yeah, trump bad hillary good, amirite?

  • @jacobslaughter2806
    @jacobslaughter2806 8 лет назад +23

    Please do P.E.T.A..

    • @erinmoody9892
      @erinmoody9892 6 лет назад +4

      Jacob Slaughter tasty animals 😋

    • @lex-hj4lt
      @lex-hj4lt 6 лет назад

      Erin Moody hell yeah

  • @fpetzhold
    @fpetzhold 5 лет назад

    This example of corruption of noble initial ideals happens so often. It is a great parallel to the same problem in so many organisations. A great warning not only against Greenpeace itself, but to be alert and judge causes in its full picture: not just the green but also the peace, and not buying into sensationalism, misinformation and fear they promote.

  • @MrApplewine
    @MrApplewine 6 лет назад

    Wait, there is no Chlorine/chloramine in drinking water. The chlorine is in the tap water which is for washing your dishes and clothes and other things. The chlorine/chloramine is in there to protect the pipes to prevent he build-up of biofilms. I don't know if it is an issue in gas form from showers and faucets though.

  • @koenslinkman
    @koenslinkman 8 лет назад +10

    Greenpeace exagerates over a lot of stuff.

  • @Catishcat
    @Catishcat 8 лет назад +56

    Let's ban gold!

    • @Catishcat
      @Catishcat 8 лет назад +20

      ***** Yes! LET'S BAN COMPUTERS THEN!

    • @filipelopes5591
      @filipelopes5591 8 лет назад +16

      You mean I have gold inside my computer?? I'm RICHHHHH richhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    • @trocer2235
      @trocer2235 8 лет назад +6

      Filipe Lopes yes but you're only gonna get like $50 dollars worth... If you're gonna sell that gold you might as well just sell your computer... Gives you more money...

    • @Slavaisusukhrystu
      @Slavaisusukhrystu 8 лет назад +1

      Let's ban Oxygen! I heard too much of it can kill you!

    • @Catishcat
      @Catishcat 8 лет назад +5

      Pearl Adelaja Really? I thought the only problem with huge ammounts of oxygen are EXPLOSIONS...

  • @justinavosanesdacamemankin7916
    @justinavosanesdacamemankin7916 4 года назад

    Having A Greenorange Problem call employment center

  • @pattonjames8060
    @pattonjames8060 Год назад +1

    So what do you think of "Forever Chemicals" a/k/a PFAS ?

  • @nzoomed
    @nzoomed 6 лет назад +4

    I love it how they knew what size to make the banners on the coal conveyor! They must have been scoping the site out quite a bit prior to the protest.

  • @Narutojaden
    @Narutojaden 7 лет назад +32

    Just kidding ... you enlightened me... What once was a good cause turned into ridiculous ... moderation

    • @topsykretts4146
      @topsykretts4146 7 лет назад

      Jaden Marie actually there become a tool of united Nation agenda 20/30 which falls in line with a very real agenda 21....depopulation now there claiming people themselves just by breathing farting etc..are creating most of co2 and should depopulated ...nice word for exterminated so Agenda20/30 will heard all kinds of people into city's away from countryside wonder why they want them all together.hmmmcheck it out I recommend a heavy dose of Alex Jones regular nightly program to keep on top of things ....to truly be awake

    • @packardexelence
      @packardexelence 7 лет назад

      Jaden Marie--If what you are saying is YOU are a FAN of moderation-----
      then I Am a FAN of YOU!!!!!!
      Like Bill Marr said:"O tolerance=O brains!!!"

  • @crayonchomper1180
    @crayonchomper1180 5 лет назад +1

    I was asked to join Greenpeace by a total stoner guy at a community college, I gave a false name then said I didn't have a job to donate so I went to class

  • @Kni0002
    @Kni0002 5 лет назад +1

    With the GMO's Part, humans have been editing/refining crops genes for centuries, Its just that GMOs is made in a lab, not cross bread. As long as the GMO does not create some messed up side effect it should be fine.

    • @theDeathJoy
      @theDeathJoy 3 года назад

      And to do as much as possible to prevent any negative side-effects, rigorous study must be conducted. However Greenpeace boycotts any and all research. Prefering humanity to fumble in the dark as if it is some sort of forbidden knowledge.

  • @TimHPop776
    @TimHPop776 7 лет назад +8

    Simple, straight forward. Thank you for time to make this video.

    • @serag6308
      @serag6308 6 лет назад +1

      Timothy Harris too simple, too straightforward, to easily set you up with a convenient perspective, yeah...

    • @mariasmith2198
      @mariasmith2198 6 лет назад

      Its his story. he isn't giving a speech on Greenpeace. Its him telling you why HE left.

  • @petertucker1677
    @petertucker1677 6 лет назад +21

    i used to work for green peace, as a door to door "sales man" (begging for donations), the training was simple find old people and people who don't understand and make them donate every month, its horrid and i recommend that no one works for them. You have to throw away all of your heart and soul for a charity.......

  • @Noizzed
    @Noizzed 6 лет назад +2

    4:05 Dark Souls death sound

  • @felixarcaya2482
    @felixarcaya2482 5 лет назад

    When I heard the mosquito I tried to kick it but then realized it was on the video

  • @graham1034
    @graham1034 6 лет назад +4

    This is why it is better to have a group that is around for a more specific goal. Better to have more, smaller, targeted groups rather than a big catch-all one. Harder to market maybe, but you can be more sure that your goals are aligned with the group.

  • @letsgoBrandon204
    @letsgoBrandon204 7 лет назад +7

    I don't like 'em putting chemicals in the water that turn the friggin frogs gay! XD

  • @TJFicarrotta
    @TJFicarrotta 4 года назад +1

    A lot of organizations started out from noble means, but were later twisted by people who just saw it as a means for their own gain corrupting the nobility it stood for.

  • @mateosantiago
    @mateosantiago 5 лет назад

    ¡Guau...! Reveladoras palabras. Excelente video.

  • @7PropagandaPanda7
    @7PropagandaPanda7 9 лет назад +91

    very well spoken, thats the sad truth

  • @drjurcheck
    @drjurcheck 9 лет назад +3

    I truly respect him for admitting what happened to the greenpeace.

  • @crystalcat1002
    @crystalcat1002 3 года назад +1

    I've never heard of this before I saw this video lol.

  • @abdalalyeh5753
    @abdalalyeh5753 5 лет назад +8

    Wowzie. I dodged bullet. I was proposed to join Greenpeace 6 years ago.

  • @oceanman3804
    @oceanman3804 7 лет назад +5

    Ban chlorine! Ha, don't make me laugh.

  • @warmaxxx
    @warmaxxx 7 лет назад +14

    let's ban the use of the internet as it's toxic

  • @CPoLofVancouver
    @CPoLofVancouver 5 лет назад

    Patrick Moore saying that Greenpeace departed from science is like the pot calling the kettle black.

  • @onengkusumah2905
    @onengkusumah2905 6 лет назад

    enjoy what you've started, served you right...