The day I raced a Boeing 787 to Seattle International
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2023
- This was my 15th Class Bravo airport in the Bonanza - Seattle Tacoma International, or "SeaTac". This flight begins in Spokane, WA at Felts Field and offers wonderful views from the cockpit of the Cascades as well as Mount Rainier.
Route of flight: KSFF SKYKO.SKYKO1 KSEA
Altitude: 12,000'
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Always a pleasure flying with you Martin!
Thanks, Christine!
- Martin
So fun watching you fly from felts to seatac (I live 20 mins away) and you scored big time with the weather!
Thanks for the vid!
Thanks, Mike. Yes, the weather was beautiful all weekend - maybe a tad bit too warm even.
- Martin
Your parallel landing with the 787 was sooooOo cool. Well video'd too! Thanks.
And I almost beat him to the runway! 😎
- Martin
Great job with the vids!
Love the closeups of the instrument when you make changes.
Glad you enjoyed the videos, including the details of the avionics.
- Martin
Beautiful! My daughter used to live in Seattle and I always loved flying into SEATAC. Your views were much better than mine were on the airliner! Great trip. Well done!
That's one of the advantages of a light general aviation airplane - the views are so much nicer! (Especially these days when most airline passengers shut their window shades...)
- Martin
Many years ago my late father and I flew our Bonanza into Dyess AFB for an airshow. After holding to land for thirty minutes or so a C-5 flew by us. Dyess Tower cleared us to land number two behind the C-5. After we landed and turned off the runway we were told to hold short of the parallel taxiway for the C-5.
It was so cool!
The C-5 is very cool indeed! I only ever see them at airshows like Oshkosh. Would be nice to fly the Bonanza close to one!
- Martin
@@martinpaulyI took a photo of it in the air. It's buried somewhere in dozens of slide carousels. I'll have to find it someday.
@@martinpauly I went through my logbook.
It happened on 05/18/1980.
According to the remarks in my logbook we held for one hour before we landed.
Also I saw that on 05/25/1980 I landed behind a B-17 at FTW where our Bonanza was hangered.
@@smark1180What a fantastic view that must have been!
This video had so much to love...I think it's your best effort yet. I loved every second of this...watched it on the big screen tv because the scenery of Mt. Rainier was so beautiful. Not quite as beautiful as that DreamLiner, but still beautiful.
Thanks, David. The view of the mountains was indeed spectacular. The video footage I recorded hardly does it justice, but it's what I have in addition to the nice memory of the flight. I hope to be back in the area!
- Martin
Your videos just (impossibly) keep getting better and better - thanks for sharing!
Thank you for the kind words!
- Martin
Hi Martin ,das war wieder ein tolles Video den Approach hast du wieder Professionell gemeistert Great Job! Gruß Frank
Hallo Frank - freut mich, dass es Dir gefallen hat!
- Martin
Keep up the video's. I'm learning a lot!
Thanks!
- Martin
WOW !!! Way to go Martin... what a nice video, packed with landing action, for sure is one of your best videos. Thanks and keep them coming. 🇨🇦
Glad you enjoyed this flight!
- Martin
Another awesome video Martin! Thank you so much for sharing your adventures.
Thanks for coming along!
- Martin
I couldn't believe my ears when you said you were starting at Felt's Field, but then confirmed with all the visuals of that neat little Spokane airport. I grew up in Spokane and fly in to Felt's for almost every major holiday as I return home to visit family. So weird seeing it on the "big screen" and hearing that you've eaten at the same little cafe as me! Hope you had a great time in Spokane for whatever reason you were there.
Next you'll be posting about your stop in Idaho Falls on your way back from Seattle. Just too weird!
Small world - Felts Field sure was a nice experience, including the cafe!
- Martin
Great to follow along. Had to think of Nick Zentner, the CWU geologist and YT science communicator. Maybe you should take him up on day for a geology lesson from the air... 😄👍
I can see how a geologist will look at the mountains differently than I do!
- Martin
Really enjoy the videos. This one in particular is a step up in quality from your already high quality videos.
Thank you for the encouraging feedback!
- Martin
What a great way to conserve Fire fighting resources, by simply asking a GA plane in the area for an observation.
Welcome to the west coast’s fire season Martin. Great video, Sir.
Thanks - and I agree, aircraft can help a lot with reporting fires.
- Martin
Great video Martin! I really enjoyed.
Thanks, David!
- Martin
Enjoyed the ride along!
Thank you, Sheldon - glad you enjoyed it!
- Martin
Very very impressive. And such a beautiful landscape.
It sure is beautiful out there in the Pacific Northwest, especially on a nice sunny day like it was when I was there.
- Martin
@@martinpauly For two summer months In 1975 I worked in Renton at a home for young men, close to the Boeing factory that you glimpsed during approach. Beautiful landscape but not much public transport, missing the bus meant 2 hours waiting for the next one ;-)
From what I’ve seen, the public transportation system today is outstanding in that area. Back then… not so much…
@@martinpauly Glad to hear it's improved! Of course it's half a century later, the world is very different. In my mind it's the same ;-)
I struggle frequently with who's channel I like best...Martin or BruceAir! I think it has something to do with the sound of the big 550's. Thank you Martin for the great content!
Hopefully you can continue to watch both Bruce and me fly! 😁
Thanks for the kind words, and yes, the IO-550 is a great engine!
- Martin
@@martinpauly for sure!!! Thanks for being here!
A truly GA Louis&Clark in uncharted territory! Loved it always.
Thanks 😎
Another awesome video, I remember my first mountain flight. It was in June 1978. I rented a Turbo charged Cessna 210 to fly from Wichita, KS to Reno, NV for Army Reserve summer camp. There were four Majors and me (an E-5) and the standing joke was if we crashed it would be a major disaster. On the way out I stopped at Cheyenne Wyoming and Salt Lake City Utah for fuel due to headwinds and a reduced fuel load to stay in CG limits. The military paid each of us $308 travel pay to get there and back and after splitting the cost of the aircraft rental for two weeks it cost each of us $146. On the way back I filed FL210 and flew from Reno to Cheyenne since we sent some of our bags with one of the guys who drove and of course the good tailwinds. It was not an uneventful trip back as I had a vacuum pump failure on the first leg. Fortunately it was severe clear all the way to Cheyenne and to Wichita so I made it back to Wichita were the Cessna Employees Flying Club could repair the vacuum pump.
I noticed you have a banana bar. I learned to loved that banana bar flying the CRJ-700. And the simultaneous parallel approaches were always a favorite of mine when that was implemented. And that was a great approach and landing. You did an excellent job keeping your speed up and still slowing the plane down for the landing.
Thanks for sharing the story about your trip - sounds like a great time!
"Major disaster"... that's funny! 🤣
- Martin
Thanks, Martin, for letting me ride along.
You bet - thanks for coming along!
- Martin
When I was in the Army, they transferred our entire unit from Germany to Ft. Lewis, Washington. This was during the Vietnam War, so we always thought we'd be going there eventually. I used to look out my barracks window and see Mt. Rainier and think how lucky I was to be there instead of the jungle... A young sargent and I climbed almost to the top of the mountain. We were not supposed to without a permit but, we did it anyway. There were places where the drop offs were very steep. But mostly it was an easy climb. I must say, you were lucky to get such good weather. Usually, it's grey, cloudy, and drizzle there.... Rick in Tucson. PS: I finally got a hangar!
You sure are a better climber than I am, Rick! Even though I love flying high, I have a fear of heights - not vey helpful for hiking etc.
- Martin
Congrats on the hangar! 👍
Beautiful area to fly in when the weather is clear, hope to get to do it someday.
Go for it!
- Martin
Thank you Martin. Only been to Seatle a couple of times but your pics of Mt Rainier are splendid.
Thanks, Dan. I agree, Mount Rainier is very special!
- Martin
Really enjoy your videos! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for riding along!
- Martin
@martinpauly oh man, I wish I could! I got my private a couple weeks after my 16th birthday, way back in the 80's. Was full press into my instrument training, and then, well life happened and unfortunately it vectored me away from aviation completely. However thanks to yourself and others, I can ride along vicariously, and it's much appreciated! Keep 'em coming!
There was a great flight, thanks for sharing
Thanks for riding along, William!
- Martin
Really enjoyed that one, Martin. Intense! Cheers from New Zealand 🇳🇿
Glad to hear - thanks for coming along!
Greeting from Iowa
- Martin
When I did my first solo in '96, KYIP had me do a parallel approach into 05L next to a DC-8 while in a Katana. I turned base-to-final as the DC-8 was cruzing on by WAVING TO ME.... talk about a terrified teenager...
Wow - that was quite something!
- Martin
Washington state is beautiful.
You did a great job flying and camera work!!!
Thank you for the kind words, and yes, the area is stunning!
- Martin
very nice video. well done...😀
Thank you!
- Martin
One of your best , Martin ! Really enjoyed it.
Thanks
Glad to hear you enjoyed it!
- Martin
Nice to see you in our part of thr Country. The restaurant at Felts Field is great.
Thanks, Ray. Yes, the diner at KSFF was very nice!
- Martin
Thanks for the ride. Enjoyed it very much!
Glad to hear!
- Martin
So beautiful! The northwest is one place I've never flown my airplane. Looks like I should.
It is absolutely stunning - you'll love it!
- Martin
Nice to see you in the Seattle area!
I hope to be back soon!
- Martin
well done you know what you're doing with a plane and Camra thanks.
Thank you!
- Martin
Another great video! Excellent airmanship.
Thank you for the kind words, James!
- Martin
This was a great flight, and app and landing at Seattle Tacoma! Very busy there.
Yes, busy indeed - but a fun flight!
- Martin
Best video yet! Very interesting flying into SEA.
Thank you 😎
- Martin
Great flight last time I was in Seattle was1987 flying a twin senior 1 in fact had the under carriage bushing changed also I two flew into Friday Harbor my trip started Ottawa Canada, tolls Vegas, LA, San Diego, then Seattle, Friday Harbor, Vancouver, then back to Ottawa, love your channel in my day all we had was VOR no GPS but had Loran C. Keep up good work, Christopher Ottawa CA ada
Thanks, Christopher! I remember the days of VOR navigation - got my instrument rating in 1998 and it was a very different world from today.
- Martin
Just marvellous! Thanks and thank you some more -
Thanks for coming along!
- Martin
Hello from an old user of Collins radios. ( S-Line for High-Frequency Ship-to-Shore and overseas ).
Great video. Loved the mountains. I really liked this as I do all of your videos.
Thanks, Alan. Yes, the mountains are stunningly beautiful!
- Martin
Great Video Martin. That was a pretty intense approach
Thanks, Randy. It was a fun flight - busy for sure, but the view of those mountains... wonderful!
- Martin
Flying in the Northwest is unmatched!
I wish it was closer, so I could fly there more often.
- Martin
Nice flight Captain,always learning and enjoying the magnificent contests ,i found that I'm a subscriber to Bruce Williams RUclips channel while ago , all the best.
Good on you for reading and watching Bruce's stuff. He knows what he's doing!
- Martin
@@martinpauly You too Captain know very well what you're doing and the way you present and explain things make the channel unique.
Martin, Great video and awesome to see you flying up in my neck o' the woods. I even saw my house in one small section of your video! You picked a great day to fly into Seattle.
One thing I really like is that Washington State DOT provides a Passport program for landing at various airports around the state. I think it's a great way to make GA a bit more fun.
Also nice to see I'm not the only one getting delay vectors into SeaTac!
Cheers
Glad I could include an aerial view of your house 👍
- Martin
Thanks for the video. Wash. State is a beautiful place. I agree about the mountains, I grew up south of Spokane. I now live a couple of hours from you in Oskaloosa. Took lessons at KPEA.
Look forward to the next video.
Not much in terms of mountains around Oskaloosa! 🤣
Welcome to Iowa!
- Martin
No, no mountains. I've been here since 1986 and Love it!!@@martinpauly
Nicely done. You really have to be ahead of the approach or you’re going to cause issues for yourself and other arrivals. Keep up the good flying!!
Thank you, Ken!
- Martin
Nice!!!
Thanks 😎
- Martin
Great flight, maybe after you have visited all the class B airports in the States, you should consider flying across the big pond to Germany or Europe. Except anti-icing and radar, yoy are very well equipped. That would be something.....
That would be the trip of a lifetime!
- Martin
Wish I’d known you were coming to town to see Bruce W! I’d have bought you dinner :) fellow cinematographer/ pilot here . Next time you’re around would love to meet you!
Thanks, that's very kind of you!
- Martin
I continually to be amazed by the quality of your video's. Everytime I see one I'm reminded to finish my ground school and get on with the actual air training. Would a patreon subscription do away with the ads?
Go start flying - you'll never look back!
A Patreon contribution helps me, but it does not get rid of ads. To get rid of ads, you need to get a RUclips Premium subscription.
Regards,
Martin
I flew a Bonanza into PDX. ATC said there was going to be a 777 passing me for the parallel and I replied, "Not if I beat him to the ground."
Beautiful footage! My money was on your bonanza rather than the Dreamliner. Lol
And I almost beat the Dreamliner! 😁
- Martin
Love that you keep ticking off these Class B airports, especially ones like SEA that try to discourage our kind of airplanes by doing things like not selling AvGas and other things.
My bucket list item is to fly to all of them - I'm almost half-way down the list!
- Martin
@@martinpauly I definitely want to do the same. The slow days of 2020-2021 made it pretty easy to tick off LAX and SFO (that ridiculous $261 landing fee though!). So far I've got LAX, SAN, SFO and MCI. Definitely need to get working to catch you.
I live and fly near SEA. They don’t need to cater to GA planes and pilots. There’s are far too many other airports in the area for a busy Class B airport like SEA to need to worry about us. I’ve never had an issue with a transition, low approach, or a landing when requested. The controllers have always been nice, even during the busy times. I have also done things like a Honorable Transfer of Remains (look it up) where I’ve driven a van full of Soldiers up to a gate and stood in formation for a time. The ground controller and staff were awesome.
Welcome to my home town. I grew up across from the airport on the east hill of Kent back when the valley was still farmland. I only left because the Army made me, lol.. I was born in the 70s, my mom and dad worked for Boeing in the 50s, and mom grew up with camouflage on the roof of the Boeing plant to confuse the Japanese that they were afraid would attack during the war. When I left town I went to Friedberg, Germany. I still work for the Army and have an office in Iowa that I will be visiting in late September or early October. Vielleicht können wir etwas zu Mittag essen, wenn ich in der Stadt bin.
@@N1120A Try ATL -- they just love single engine work there. Another tip is to use a radio that has a roof mounted antenna to make sure you don't lose comm with ground / twr.
wow best vid
Thank you - glad you enjoyed it!
- Martin
I want to go to Tahiti!! Get that 787 back!
The consummate professional. Right on the money the whole way. No ATP out there would have done that more smoothly. Good job Ludwig!! : )
So you’re not too far from my neck of the woods. Will you be at the Reno Air Races?
Tahiti would be nice... but it's a bit far for the Bonanza.
I did NOT make it to Reno. I've never been (and I guess now I never will go). Too many aviation events competing for a few vacation days. I keep telling myself this will get easier after I retire, but many who have tell me they only get busier.
- Martin
Well, I actually did make it to the Air Races! (Maybe that's why you couldn't be there. ; )
Tragic ending unfortunately, but it was a phenomenal week. I spent the entire weekend in the Pit Area. I was fortunate to be kind of taken under the wing of one of the racers. I even got to help the crew prep the plane for his final race on Sunday (in the morning), which he won! What's on my mind now, is that my dad is leaving tomorrow for Southern Africa. He'll be there a month, and will be bush flying to several Game Reserves in small aircraft. He's a pilot, but won't be doing the flying. Let's hope he has good pilots like you & Guido!
We will meet. Eventually... lol
Take care -Kenny
PS Take the Dreamliner to Tahiti. (Or buy more upgrades for the Bonanza. : )@@martinpauly
Hey Martin, Job well done........ what time of year was this flight? what's the deal with the seats.
Jim, this flight was only a few weeks ago, in mid August.
The seats have sheepskin covers on them. Very cozy!
- Martin
Damnit boy...... looking good.
@@martinpauly
WOW!! What speed did you do on short final? 140-160 was blistering speeds for below 2000.
It's really not a big deal in the Bonanza. With the landing gear down, it slows down very easily once you take the power out.
- Martin
wow signature fbo at ksea is isolated
You are right.
- Martin
Martin, I'm curious, were there any landing fees? if so, how much were they and how were they handled? I don't intend to ever land in a Bravo airport mostly because I've heard landing fees for small GA aircraft are around $500.
I have never paid anywhere near that much. I'm still waiting for Vector to send me a bill in the mail for the KSEA landing fee. Signature didn't charge a landing fee (at some large airports they do).
- Martin
3 aspens and a gi275 just seems like such overkill
Well, maybe, until something fails in flight - then it's great to have backups.
- Martin
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I want to get into the air.
Go for it!
- Martin
are u visiting Reno this year for the Race?
No, I didn't make it to Reno.
- Martin
Martin, I have a question for you. This is concerning your constant speed prop. For a given power, setting such as 65%, the POH has a number of settings based on RPM and manifold pressure. Which is the most efficient, the fastest speed, the least amount of wear on your engine or the best performance and the best fuel burn of that bracket. Is it the lowest RPM with the highest manifold pressure or the lowest manifold pressure with the highest rpm? I noticed you mostly cruise at 2500 RPM, which must mean you’re takeoff and climb speed must be 2700 RPM. Am I correct?
That's a complex topic... But what I do is fairly simple:
- Take-off: Full throttle, 2700 RPM, mixture full rich (at or near sea level)
- Climb: Full throttle, 2700 RPM, mixture leaned to maintain the EGT I had at take-off (typically 1300 degrees F)
- Cruise: Full throttle, anywhere from 2300 RPM to 2500 RPM, mixture leaned to somewhere between 20 and 80 degrees F len-of-peak
(2300 is "go slow" mode, saves a little gas; 2500 is my normal cruise speed)
- Descend: reduce power as needed for bumpy air
Best regards,
Martin
@@martinpauly Thank you for your response. So 2300 will give you a slower airspeed but save fuel. I thought a bigger bite on the prop has less drag. If you compare this to a fixed pitch prop, I thought the purpose of a constant speed was to be more efficient at slower rpm. Engine wear is reduced as well with less rpm. My point was to understand how different RPM and MP still yield the same brake HP but evidently not the same airspeed. Since I’m to understand you haven’t had an overhaul yet, then the A&P mechanic hasn’t presented how much wear and tear your habits yielded. It a curious topic for a video maybe with a mechanic being interviewed and maybe other pilots like your multi engine instructor. Regards. 👍. By the way I’ll be joining you on Patreon.
Nicely done Martin thanks for all the work with the filming and editing…..
Tell me, does your Garmin GI275 have a remote magnetometer ?
I’m told they can suffer from heading wander if not provided with a remote magnetometer placed well away from the panel to avoid magnetic interference.
Great scenery in that part of the world!
My GI-275 does not have its own magnetometer, so I can't comment on that.
- Martin
Hello what is the software for your EFB?
Garmin Pilot is what you are seeing in this video.
- Martin
Martin,
Have a great day at ABS PPP with Bruce.
Thanks, Anthony - it was indeed a great training flight with Bruce Williams.
- Martin
I hear they’re trying to make flying fridges. It’s a cool concept but I don’t think it’s going to take off.
Love your videos all the on screen information is fantastic. I have a question for you, I have been reading that by 2030 the government is phasing out aviation 100LL gas, hopefully there is a fix for that by than. Safe travels
Thanks, Mike.
There is no set deadline for phasing out 100LL, though there is an industry-wide pledge to do so at some point in time, when circumstances are right. What exactly that last bit means is highly controversial, as G100UL offers a perfectly good and certified replacement for 100LL - except the adoption hasn't really started yet.
- Martin
@@martinpauly Thank you.
Martin, As you got your takeoff clearance at 22R, I noticed you grabbed a piece of paper that was covering your Garmin GDL. Have you found that it will overheat in the sun? I know that I have, so I cover it during the entire flight, as it has shut down in crucial phases of flight in the past from overheating.
That piece of paper was there to keep my GoPro camera cool, not the GDL52. I have not yet had the GDL52 overheat.
- Martin
Just had another thought looking at your Aspen screens at 35:03, there appears to be no display of the ILS DME. Is this normal, is it something the Aspens don’t provide maybe, or perhaps at SEA on that runway there is no co-located DME?
Either way, I find ILS DME really helpful when it comes to cross checking position on the approach, not to mention avoiding false glide slope captures.
Hardly any light-GA cockpit has a DME anymore these days. If I had one, the Aspen would show it. But the way it is, it shows distance and time to the active GPS waypoint, because GPS is all I got. And the GPS provides distance information.
- Martin
@@martinpauly thanks for the reply. Begs the question that on those ILS charts that stipulate ‘DME required’ are we staying legal with GPS only for our distance info?
@@EtiRats Yes, we are staying legal with just GPS - no doubt about it. The FAA has a record of clearly saying that, starting with AIM section 1-2-3 and AC 90-108. Otherwise the DME radios would not have disappeared from our cockpits.
Regards,
Martin
Martin, what route did you take from Iowa to Washington? The thought of crossing the Rockies in a normally aspirated single gives me pause.
John,
T268 is basically how I flew over the mountains, from Billings almost all the way to Seattle.
- Martin
Wow. I fly in that area all the time and wouldn’t think of trying to land at KSEA. I assumed it wasn’t allowed. Do you need special permission?
NO, but to avoid wake turbulence, you should ask to land long and touchdown past the point where the heavies touch down. There's an A-C for that. I recall my days of taking a Cherokee into LAX, and I just kept speed up to 130 kts at 500 feet over the numbers on those 12,000 ft runways. Still plenty of room to make the mid field high speeds to the FBO
The airport information for KSEA does indeed say that prior permission is required from the FBO to use their ramp, because it is fairly small. I called Signature a few days before the flight and secured permission.
Regards,
Martin
@@martinpauly OH! I didn't know he meant the FBO. Is there no transient parking at SEA. We did have multiple FBOs in addition to transient parking at LAX.
@@gendaminoru3195To my knowledge, there is no transient parking at SEA other than Signature.
That 787 has nothing on you.
😂
if you’re not familiar with local landmarks you can always request an IAP instead of a charted visual. worst comes to worst ATC responds unable and you fly the charted visual. but really any field that’s landing 121/135/etc traffic is gonna be assigning IAPs so it’s just a question of spacing between the slower GA and faster comm flights.
Sure, I could ask for a conventional instrument approach, but if the controller feels that one of the charted visuals works best all things considered, I want to be ready for it.
- Martin
Isn't Signature one of the very few remaining holdout FBOs that refuse to publish their fees online? Aircraft owners and pilots should consider taking their business elsewhere.
Actually, Signature has been publishing their fees for a while on their website.
They are still often on the expensive side, but at least they have improved transparency.
- Martin
Just out of curiosity, Mr. Pauley, why you're so adamant, or infatuated with flying into class B airports? Don't you have to pay landing fees? Isn't 100 LL is more expensive? If you have to get gas? Not to mention by flying a slower aircraft, in the midst of commercial aircraft, which are faster, causing more work load for those controllers have to scramble to get spacing for you , and the heavies? In my 45 years flying, I have tried my best to avoid those busy airport, unless, I had to.
Ignoring your choice of words ('adamant', 'infatuated') for a moment, and focusing on the rest of your comment: I enjoy flying to large, busy airports. It is an experience and a challenge which (to me) is fun and rewarding and keeps me sharp. Other people run marathons or climb mountains, for similar reasons - those activities are not for me, but I sure can see why people want to do it.
If the goal of my flying was to minimize the burden for air traffic control, then I should quit flying altogether, or at least keep to uncontrolled airfields. I want to be a good team player in working with ATC, but that is not the same as staying away.
In many conversations I’ve had with air traffic controllers over the years, when I asked them what smaller GA airports mean for them at busy airports, the responses were along the lines of “be prepared, pay attention to the radio, fly a bit faster than you usually would”. Not once has a controller even hinted that we should stay away from those airports.
When the FAA deems it necessary to restrict general aviation operations at an airport, they can do so through a slot reservation system. Currently, DCA and LGA require slots - all other airports in the US don’t. Large events like the Superbowl will see similar measures, temporarily. And even the need for a slot doesn’t mean general aviation is cut out, it just restricts how many GA flights per hour they will accept. For Seattle, the airport FBO ramp is "PPR" (prior permission required); I followed the process and requested (and was granted) permission to use the FBO a couple of days before this flight.
Regards,
Martin
Your title remind me of the day I beat a Piedmont Airlines 737 from Richmond, Va. to Norfolk, Va. in a Grumman Tiger! Taxing to Runway 02 ATC asked if I would be ready at the end and could I take an intersection departure? I answered affirmative. A PI 737-200 was on the runway behind me holding for a release.
I was cleared for take off and an on course heading to ORF. The 73 departed after I made a right turn out. With vectors to climb to 10,000 then direct Harcum VOR V38 Cape Charles. Expect the radar vectors for the ILS 23 at ORF. I climbed to 2500 on course and was cleared through Felkers airspace as well Patrick Henery and Navy Norfolk while taking to Norfolk approach. I contacted the tower they cleared me to land on 13 hold short for a landing 73 on 23. As was I holding the 73 went past me. One of the crew asked where I came from I said Richmond. They said they took off behind me and I beat them to ORF.🤣🛫