Streacom DB4 - Silent Gaming PC Project
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_"CPU thermal was dropping a substantial amount when I turn on my ceiling fan"_
I should get one of these so my parents will shut up and I can run the AC as low as I want during summer lmao. Way too expensive though.
@@jm036 The case or your electricity bill?
@@air_preep $300 for a computer case is insane. As you could guess I don't pay the electric bill and it's summer, it'll be running at all times either way.
^^ Yup, the prices for computer cases are *way* too much, almost always!.. Even -stupid- cases have to be CAREFULLY selected these days, meh. :f
@@jm036 When Apple charge your $1000 for just a monitor standard, this case is relatively cheap.
Your Videos look so good. The lighting, the colors, the grading, the frame... Everything is perfectly thought out for every shot. I can really see your dedication and effort. Keep it up mate.
New title:
Treadripper cooler
Edit: realized I haven’t passed first grade
Threadripper?
@@someguy9505 No. Teadipper
Readthipper
Fredripper
Real Tipper
Don't know what you've done, but your videos in last couple months look so much more expensive. If previously I was watching(mainly listening) you for the information about parts and products on market, then now I am hooked on your visuals, on your style of b rolls(+ information is still there). Really cool!
Who else thought this was just a massive weirdly designed heatsink for the silent pc gaming build instead of the whole case?
Knew it was a toss-up, if not mash up
Secretly hoping for the Sidearm T1 notification, but this is a very interesting case aswell!
February 1st ;)
Same.
A huge slow spinning fan install on top this case would be awesome.
Ceiling fan
Kinda kills the whole theme, tho...
@@Phenom98 huge fans are silent
Totally agree, just one big fan and also more venting at the bottom and it would make more sense.
Put a 200mm noctua on it!
I have one of these and done a lot of experimenting with it. What you need, is the GPU cooling kit sold by HDPLEX. This is way, way more substantial than the rather wimpy GPU cooling kit Streacom offers. Next, the SilverStone Nightjar NJ450-SXL passive PSU. Fits perfectly within the DB4 and performs really well (also, no need for a separate power brick anymore). Get some extra heat pipes and brackets, then assemble it so that the CPU heats up one panel and the GPU two. This gives you a theoretical cooling performance of 65W for the CPU and 130W for the GPU (Streacom rates each panel at 65W). I’ve been running an i7-8700 with a GTX 1660 Ti, runs on the edge of the limit but without issue - there is actually some airflow across the VRM’s and memory of the GPU due to convection. However... I’ve also created a custom top cover with a hole in it to fit a Noctua 120 mm fan. This is placed exactly above the GPU and is configured to run at inaudible speeds (400-900 rpm). This dramatically improves cooling performance. So much so, I am now running a 3800X and RTX 2060 Super, at good temps. All I can hear is a touch of coil whine from the GPU when I listen closely.
There was on an older video by Tek Syndicate where they mention a dual panel cpu cooler, pair that with your mods and make sure to spread the heat to other parts of each panel as in the Tek Syndicate video they realized the cooling contact from the streacom heat pipes is not optimal, below is the video. Too bad the DB6 and DB10 never made it to production.
ruclips.net/video/AbpfC4yrAMQ/видео.html
let us know how we can help you with testing this out, would seriously consider this case if it was a little cheaper or had more complete cooling solutions for a mini rtx 2070.
John Geddes interesting video. I’ve had the CPU connected to multiple panels, but for me, a 65W CPU is powerful enough and I rather want to use the cooling capacity for the GPU. The RTX 2070 has been succeeded by the RTX 2070 Super, which is bigger and uses more power, the RTX 2060 Super I have has pretty much the performance of the RTX 2070 and is the maximum you can fit both in size and power in the DB4. If you were thinking about cooling such a card passively with the DB4, forget it, you need way more fins and heatsinks for that. They did this with the MonsterLabo case and even that solution is not optimal, because of the difficulty of passively cooling the VRM’s and memory chips.
Videos are always so clean and sleek that I start to feel like a dirty tramp :D
It's excellent how you show the process as well as the pitfalls of the process. Full transparency makes a far more interesting video!
Seems silly to have a fanless system with a GPU that requires a fan.
@sans undertale not on this card; i would have either gone for a fanless unit or for the case bracket
You need to purchase the cooling kit separately. streacom is too greedy.
@@Renaldo015 ?
@@Renaldo015 Not true. Got mine with all the cooling accessories. That IS part of the purchase.
What you are referring to, is extra heat sink options that allow to run hotter cpu's with overclocking in mind..
You should apply thermal past to all the thermal connections including the ones between the aluminium and copper heatpipes. If you don't its pretty inefficient.
LightbeamZ exactly what I did 👍
I have no interest in this case, but I watched the entire anyways just to see your beautiful camera work, the lovely backgrounds and your in depth and insightful highlights of all the features. Your videos are a step above almost everyone in this tech space, I’m glad I came across your channel! Well done and keep up the amazing work.
Ive been imagining tis for so long. So cool that its been done
I did this years ago, a 100% passive cooling system is neat, but has a flaw. All goes well till the roommate goes out of town and turns of the A/C to save money. I came home to a fried fanless PSU.
As a lover of cube shaped designs, I think this might be a case I will look into.
Fantastic cinematography man
I found this channel randomly when building a new SFF machine. I just gotta say that the quality of videos you make surpass channels with 10x your budget. If you're doing this alone I'm absolutely shocked.
EQWoody You don’t know his budget.
I saw this case ages ago but forgot the name I've been waiting for a review for ages this is EPIC even if it is a chungus of a case
that size is considered big nowadays ?
People are weird :)
@@MatureManure for an itx case that has the same size constraints and the velka 3 it is really big
(Itx card, its graphics card and hdplex or smaller psu that's need to be taped on) the velka 3 is almost a fifth the size
I own this case.
You should too.
About the PicoPSU modules. The 12V rated ones simply pass through the 12V line. So you get however much power your AC-DC PSU can supply (as long as you run beefy enough cables ofc). I tend to just use the 160W version of the cheap PicoPSU modules, which is enough for a few HDDs and the mainboard. 12V coming from 2x 350W AC-DC PSUs powering a 3770K with a GTX Titan and 2 HDDs + SSD inside an old compact stereo amp case.
Also you might wanna try the graphene thermal pads, they're supposedly better than either calssical thermal pads or thermal paste.
They can add optional support for a 120/140mm fan (Users can either use or not) support at the bottom ( may be not possible with IOs) or at top. Most of the premium Noctua fans are silent fans.
Also top panel either ventilated or should have some air passage, so hot air inside case can go outside directly.
Yo! I just wanted to say that I've been really enjoying your channel lately. Keep the great work up.
the first few shots of the video looks like the architecture rendering. good work.
9:56 why does the 12V rail only have 10V? also the VRM overheating is strange because it is rated for 125°C
Loving your videos. Stoked you are Aussie. Are you considering designing your own Optimal case?
it is reasonable that the gpu was choking, there is no air intake at all, its a sealed box. This case is perfect for regular use without gaming as there is no way to cool a regular gpu without modifications on it and on the case itself. good video!
Asus Strix B450-i isn't the board designed for APUs. B350 variant even didn't have HDMI output port installed. With B450 Asus included HDMI output and single-phase to power-up APU. Other board manufacturers do two-phases for APU.
For those who think the GPU cooling kit from Streacom may turn this into a gaming rig: don’t get your hopes up! It only provides 65W of cooling potential. You can cool a GTX 1650 max with it, and even that will probably have to be underclocked as that’s a 75W card. Now, the HDPLEX GPU kit offers much more potential, as it features twice the heatpipes and twice the capacity.
Finally, a tech enthusiast who CAN play games!!!!!!!
Why not combining massive passive cooling by using the panels of a case (like seen here) plus active fan cooling within the case? If top and bottom were perforated, the air could be pushed effective from one side to another. I‘d love to see design like the DA2, without those gaps at top and bottom.
Given that those heat pipes were not press-fitted into the side aluminum block, adding some thermal grease to the pipes before sliding them in may help lower thermals a little more too. It will make the aluminum block a more effective spreader to the side panel; which in turn spreads the heat out over the side panel more.
Love old case from zalmen who was like this one. All heat of cpu and gpu go in the case
Its a closed box, idk where you were expecting heat to go. CPU heat on the contrary is put directly outside
If the case where better coupled to the heat producing components, I think it'd be a lot more effective...... Like, take some copper tubing and solder it to the insides of those panels, and full water cooling (CPU, GPU, RAM, MOSFETs, south bridge, PSU)... Probably have to hook things up with quick connect fittings to keep it somewhat serviceable
Very cool video. I’ve wanted to build in that case for a while. Maybe one day a truly silent build will be a reality.
The intro gave me Blade Runner chills
Put a single 200mm fan inside and set to 20% RPM, you will hear nothing and there will be enough air moving around to keep everything cool. Also add small raspberry pi heatsinks to everything....everywhere.
This content is so high quality. Well done dude
I know you're more into the mini itx builds but I would love to see you get into more passive cooling cases. I've had my eye on the Turemetal UP10 case.
Those graphite thermal pads with the insane sideways conductivity should be built into this case, to make the walls better radiators.
the power supply bracket is so simple that a small piece of circuit board or plastic could be cut an drilled with ordinary hand tools, for those people without access to 3d printing.
5:14 You have two unused heat pipe channels. Add pipes and another heat transfer plate to a second side of the cube to balance the load.
ALL sides can be employed. Extra kit.. but worth it.
great video there, Optimum Tech. you really know your stuff. i think at this stage you should get into designing an SFF case. as regards the DB4, i wonder why only one case panel could be leveraged for cooling in a serious way - or, given that that's the situation, why not use one large curved super-finned panel and make the rest from a rigid open mesh. seems a bit of a waste to have such sophisticated panels all-round, when some of them do very little.
ALL panels are available for sinking.. Go to their website.
Those shots at the beginning 😍😍
This case needs two things. 1) Holes or mesh in the top for convection 2) A slimmer design without the hard drive bays (it's 2020 not 2010)
eh hard drives have their place my next build is a full tower case with space for 6 hard drives and 3 ssd's won't use all the bays but still nice to have the space if needed. mass storage of videos are just not value based for ssd's and if you have home security ssd's are a waste. you should also consider some games have 0 to no benefit on ssd's.
I´ve had this case for some years now and the GPU cooler is only designed to cool a max 75W TDP, so you can only use a GTX 1050ti or a plain 1650. However, there´s also another kit that allows to disspate the heat of the CPU to two side panels, so it could be used with a more powerful CPU or at least don´t have that much heat on only one of them.
Long ago similar cooling technique was used in Zalman TNN 500AF and TNN 300 fanless PC cases. Those cases even had passively cooled PSU included. Too bad that this is not more popular. I wouldn't mind putting a large block of aluminium on my desk if it meant that I could power my PC and not hear even a little bit of noise.
JUST STICK A TINY PIECE OF METAL AND SOME THERMAL PASTE ON THAT VRM PROBLEM SOLVED WHAT THE HELL HOW IS THAT A SILENT PC AAAAAAAAAA
The 1650 non-super doesn't require a PCIe power connection, it is pretty efficient. Could've tried to passively cool that instead.
I really like this one! You definitely need that GPU cooler kit that they offer, but other than that this PC is amazing!
What about mini pc like the chatreey s1 with a ryzen 3400g of aliexpress?
This case looks dope
Snazzy labs made a vid on this case and honestly i think this is one of the better cases for hackintoshes and a great case to show off to non pc people
The outdoor shots👌
Yep. The SOC power stage has no heatsink. I know this because I have this board and I ran APU on it.
If you could get one of the ikea wirless chargers for a phone, you could make this even better
I think i would mod the top panel with a 200mm noctua fan, and use the gpu bracket. Still practicly noiceless, and cooler.
Then go with any external GPU. What's the point?
I believe the VRM, Chipset and GPU thermal issues could be addressed via additional blocks and heat pipes to the case. Perhaps that is something the engineers can work on.
Any fan is counter productive Ina case like this. If anything inside needs more cooling it needs to be thermally coupled to the case exterior
Just watched your update video on this, much better, esp underclocked on that otherwise slightly OP GPU.
CPU 3400G might not be the best, but soon you can test 4800U 15w and 4800H 45w. More GPU power with 8 cores in a tiny nice looking box. Like a pc gaming console near the TV.
all four panels should be used for heat dissipation and gpu + mobo vrm blocks should be included for this to be viable
I enjoy this video. Good job.
You seem pretty good at Apex man most tech youtubers sucks at games XD
Palit GeForce GTX 1050 Ti KalmX would have been a nice option for the GPU. It doesn't have a fan and you should also be able to play e sport titles.
I have a similar design single fan gtx 1050 (compared to the 1650 you used in this build) in my HTPC but i disconnected the fan because of the (high pitched) noise it makes.
Great looking case if aesthetics is important along with quieter computing.. Chi charging glass top would be a plus.. Great review as always... 👍😎
A fanless 1030 GT probably would have been the better option, it can still do most esports @1080p.
Amazing case, though I wish it could accommodate longer GPUs for full blown gaming builds.
Not a gaming box.
my dream pc, Fully Passive cooled!
Damn, you're good at Apex.
He's good
Vivek Pal anyone could just upload a highlight of their gameplay.
I would like to see a review of a full-tower configuration that offers ultra low temperature characteristics - for a system based on a high core count threadripper cpu, liquid cooled. This would form the basis from which I would design a new desktop pc for software development and gaming. The last pc I built was a dual pentium win xp box back in the last century - I have been using laptops for the last twenty years. Great channel.
I would add a large 140mm fan in the top panel and set it to minimum speed just to bring in some airflow. Otherwise I think its a neat build, but I would seriously Never drop $300 on a case that can't allow for proper cooling.
Wouldn't want to run that case without AC in hot Australian Summers haha.
Literally one noctua fan mounted in the top panel to pull some air through it and you'd be set. Just SOME airflow huh, how much noise does a NFA12x25 really make ;)
ETA until the streacom GPU cooling kit arrives?
AF25 in stock at quietPC and quietPC usa
I have it, don’t buy it, because it will only provide 65W of cooling performance. Buy the HDPLEX GPU cooling kit instead, as it has double the heatpipes, so double the potential - and a huge block of copper.
Amazing, but black radiators can significantly increase efficiency.
Omg I love this case. As much as I love my current pc, fan noise and all that still really annoys me and I’m envious of my dad after I built him a pc in a different Streacom. Might have to take the plunge soon myself
I always watch your videos at 1.5x
Considering switching to 1.75x
Imagine taking 2 of these, sticking them on top of each other from the bottom side, and use one as just a giant heatsinks with a bunch of storage drives with the other holding a motherboard and GPU.
You can run faster GPU + CPU in this:
Add the Streacom LH6 CPU HP kit - Brings the cooling performance up to 95W TDP.
Raise the hat a bit for the heat to move out better.
(diy+fans)
You can also fit SFX and ATX PSUs easily: there´s enough room in the back compartment.
I´ve runned mine with following:
Seasonic X-650(ATX PSU: Semipassive + Fully modular, Installed sideways)
i7-7700T(no LH6)
EGVA SC 1060(raised the hat 4-5mm)
Seasonic X-650
i7-7700T(no LH6)
Inno3d 1070(raised the hat 40-50mm)
Next I was planning to go with:
Seasonic X-650
i9-9900K(with the LH6)
Inno3d 2060S(raise the hat 4-5mm or DIY better one: holes/mesh/material etc)
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If you wanna get really creative you could mount BIG fans to the side panels or to the(elevated+meshed) hat.
From my uneducated engineering perspective, it is very annoying when companies destroy good product by going extreme. Designing a quiet case with the bulk of cooling made by passive elements makes much sense. Avoiding fans at all costs makes no sense.
I'd buy a full-scale case like that. The concept is great. I hope more manufacturers incorporate using the body of the case for passive cooling. It doesn't have to be fan-less though. Few quality fans running slow do not make noise!
Absolutely LOVE the look of this case! Could easily be the case of my next photo/video editing PC
Not a good choice for that
This case is looking soooooo promising for the upcoming ryzen 7 4700G APU!
great video, so informative
Saw this before at Streacom's official site while browsing for DA2 parts. Would make for an interesting side project.
They need fins on the in side of the side walls with vented bottom n top that doubles the heat exchange and natural pulls cooler air though the system :-)
Do you own and have experience with this case?
@@Terminal-Thought-Experiment I did have one and why? was a classy looking case
This is great, hobby project. Might be nice storage server in the office with some Intel Core i3. You built it for gaming but I wonder what would you use for storage server with directly attached disks? Some board with lots of SATA ports might work very well.
The amount of detail is amazing. Looking for a VRM and fixing it? I don't think many other YT'ers would've done that. They'd be like it's fine for 720P gaming at low settings but what can you do?
So hypothetically this is just a cool case for building mom a decent little home PC with a good i5 and no GPU since she’ll never be gaming on it.
Most timeless of all time
I would enjoy a follow-up on silent builds. I've been using the HDPLEX H5 case without any fans for a few years. The i5 6600K and the GTX 1060 both use the passive case heatsinks. It does get too hot though and hot air gets trapped inside the case making VRAM and other unconnected components reach too high temperatures. Now I run it without the top plate on and one silent low RPM 120mm fan resting on the GPU and one on the CPU. Still silent but looks bad. At some point I want to CNC the top plate to add air flow holes and holes to allow the fans to be mounted to the top plate.
Sure, make it into a storage server if you like dead HDDs from overheating.
Waiting for SV590 reviev! 🙂👍
Wow! I would think having the top panel being tempered glass or something would actually make this look much nicer, compared to the acrylic sheet.
the Acrylic top should have a qi charger
It would most likely look ugly if the cpu and gpu cooler still look how they do
@@tommihommi1 Storing your phone on a hot surface isn't a good idea for the longevity of the battery.
The Streacom DB4 is my current HTPC (completely passive). It is mainly used for streaming tv series, browsing the web, playing game through emulators (Cemu being the most advanced one) and WoW (Classic and Retail).
My setup:
Intel i5 8600k
16 GB Ram
Gtx 1050ti (with Streacom GPU kit)
2 500GB Nvme drives
Streacom 240W PSU
Temps are ok:
CPU hitting max 70-80 degrees when stress tested (Idle around 37 degrees).
GPU hitting max 70 degrees when gaming.
Feel free to ask me questions and I will answer as best I can...
Ah the dark art of passive cooling..
It's a pretty expensive case to be honest, then a power brick and Pico psu on top. Hard to justify for a HT PC which could be hidden away in an AV rack or cupboard. I mean an ex office SFF Lenovo/Dell would do for that purpose. So if it can't game decently it's not fit for purpose as a potato will do HT duty. Thanks for reviewing it!
Very, very beautiful! Look also at Cirrus7:silent computers! I for myself do own both, a silent Streacom PC, a silent Cirrus7 PC and a silent Intel NUC. I don‘t like hell‘s loud noises of fans, of a 65W CPU or a small Intel NUC…
Hdplex hands down best sfx psu solution.
Great design and phenomenal execution. If only they would make an matx/atx version. I was super psyched for the Calyos NSG-S0 prototypes, but sadly that never made it production.
Streacom built a case with 4 massive aluminum sidepanels, only using one panel for cooling the CPU and (if you buy the kit) one panel für cooling the GPU. I really dont understand why they are not 'activating' the other two sidepanels for double the surface area...
You should have replaced the fan with a pentier onto the gpu heatsink to keep this build passively cooled as the nature of this chassis concept.