Hello Anthony, great job Khian nice intro! Wow Marklin have done an incredible job! The level of detailing is amazing! The sound file and smoke is spot on. Great video Anthony all the best to you and Joyce!
Hello, Deano!! I think it is a good-looking model, but I am not experienced enough to know if it properly captures the current version of the Scotsman, so it is folks from the UK who will let me know. So far, reviews seem to be good, with some little bits- but that is expected. No one ever gets it all exact. Hopefully it will shine on the stream today!
Hey, Pluber! Thanks for checking in! This is a very special release, as it is very rare for any German/Continental European company to do a UK train, as the OO market discourages it. This one has sold very well, so hopefully more will come.
@@theplumber33 I certainly do. The next releases (which I did not order) which just came out are the 2 Union Pacific EF44s in yellow. I am so debating getting one, but too many preorders are coming in over the next few weeks, I can't spare the train budget for it.
That’s a great looking Green locomotive you got there and with real impressive sound functions. Bear in mind that this locomotive have been on a world tour to both America as well as Australia so the choice of cars to run with it is quite brought - it looks really good with the reingold cars. So congratulations with this steamer in this nice green livery - since I recall that green locomotives are among your favourites.😉 Looking forward to tonights stream. P.s. Great intro with Khian.❤️
Yes, the Scotsman has gone on world tours, so I can imagine it running on my layout. Either way, it is a nice model and makes my "Steamerpalooza" (Steamer Gala) complete- I can now run six full steamers on my layout. I just need some nice coaches for it. As you said hopefully they will release a matching car set.
Hello, Tim, and I agree, it can pull anything. I am hopeful to find some old Lima or someone else who has appropriate UK coaches in HO. Even though this is the current version of the Scotsman, I would like to have it pull some UK stock in HO to honor all the UK fans of the channel. A true UK train on my layout. I will then hope they make a Mallard. lol
Hello, Ben! Yes, Khian seems to be better. I am quite pleased with the purchase. I originally didn't plan to buy it, but changed my mind, much to the chagrin of Joyce, but it is great to have it now! The sound hits me as amazing, although I am hearing from the people in the know that it sounds not quite right up to speed. I would never know, lol
Super model and great review of it Anthony ! Detail on it amazing ! Love the smoke ! You will have many happy hours running this round your layout for sure 👍
Wow, Allan, I take that as great praise for it. I am hearing from some that the cylinder beat may be off (2 instead of 3, but I know nothing of these things). Thank you for checking in and commenting! All the dearest to you and the family!
They are? Cool, thank you for the correction! They felt plastic, which I was shocked to see, but perhaps the finish on the paint job made it feel that way. As for the stacks, also great to hear, although it sure looked secondary attachment. Anyhow, it is always good to get the clarification. Thank you!
@@ModelTrainOutsider Touch the parts with your tongue. Metal always feels colder than plastic. The one exception is titanium which feels warmer than other metals. The loco looks to be the standard Marklin Trix construction method. Zinc die-cast alloy boiler and tender with plastic cab.
Wow I can’t believe how well the little man’s talking has come on. He’s growing up quick 👍 lovely loco with excellent detail. Great overview of the loco Anthony thank you for sharing. All the best to you and the family Andy
Hello, Andy! Yes, he is maturing in leaps and bounds, and is a lot of fun when he wants to ham for the camera. The loco is quite impressive, and I hope it stands out to UK folks as quality. Not that they expect to sell any in the UK, but so we who buy it feel they got it right. Anyhow, all the best to you and your family! Thanks for being a part of it all!.
There are two major flaws with this model - #1 being the wromg color and #2 being the finish. The protoptype sports a glossy finish, which is meticulously kept shining, not a satin finish.
I think the two flaws are welded into one- to get a shinier finish, the color would have been lighter. This is, to me, the biggest issue. Although I find the color and paint job immaculate, it is not right for the time it is representing, and I agree. The model itself is exquisite, but the color is not right. It is beyond me as to how Märklin missed on that, they tend to be very meticulous. Perhaps they measured and photgraphed when it was in shop being refitted for its 100th and a final coat had not been applie? I do not know and only hazard a guess. I heartily welcome you and such an excellent point on this! Thank you!
What a stunning and beautiful looking loco, an all time fave for sure, runs as sweet as a nut. What an excellent addition Anthony, you'll run it loads, well you gotta. :) All the best. Brian @ The Angels
Hello, Brian... I am very glad to hear you approve of it. I knew quality and detail would be there, but I want to hear from the UK and Irish folks who know this train best. Thanks for checking in with me and commenting!
Hello, Dave! It looks good and runs well, I just hope it passes the eye test to those who know the original in reconstructed build as it now appears. It is weird, nowadays, to have UK trains in HO scale, so this was a big step.
Hello Anthony. I have got the flying Scotsman, the Marklin one. I’d like to know, because I don’t have the Lima ho coaches, and they aren’t really realistic. LMS wasn’t operation when the MK1 coaches were made. I don’t have them, which coaches would you recommend, Marklin or any other HO manufacturer (budget:200$)
That's a great question, and I could not give you a definitive answer. How prototypical do you need? My friend Jim @Hovermotion put a rake of HO Post War German coaches together that looks brilliant with the Scotsman, but certainly not prototypical: ruclips.net/video/tyHwVOlSyv4/видео.html and here ruclips.net/video/D02OBH3GIgc/видео.html I am not extremely well versed in what the Flying Scotsman ran with, and some UK friends and a very knowledgeable Dutchman named @Ivo Van Zon suggested I get the Lima LMS coaches or even BR coaches. I used a couple sites which give coach information : www.british-ho.com/?fbclid=IwAR3plW6aJlSNHydLNae74yVGd48zOozFqX17PEZiO-Nc-ixOjbmMj3QR5xo and www.limabritishho.co.uk/LBHO-Coaches.htm?fbclid=IwAR1zBpgujW5j5BBjcLd_wQWrVqmOuVJ1KwgAtcFS1PZ9eWXW5p664YARDZw. Otherwise, I am not much use to you.
You may not be interested but Rails of Sheffield ebay store currently have the British Fleischmann HO coaches for sale. They are the same green ones Hovermotion has for his HO Scotsman. Rails of Sheffield is selling a set of 5 of them. They are for sale on the ebay store for less than £50 total.
Cool...superb loco, Not got mine yet but I should be getting a call soon.. This model is only two axel drive by the looks of the exploded views. Some layouts the loco has struggled and failed to pull a rake of coaches up a helex system..you should be fine here.. Thanks for showing 👍🏻 23:20
Helo, Jim! I have seen some videos, but no one running a helix. I just heard gents questioning the weight, along with similar posts on Facebook. I have it pulling some Rheingold coaches right now and it seems to be handling the incline. I find it weird they would only do 2-wheel drive these days, but maybe it had to be done that way. Anyhow, thanks for watching! Hope you are well and all the best to the family! Cheers!@
Hello, Jorge! It is a great steamer. I don't think I was able to get the cab details in focus very well, but it is nicely done. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Hi Anthony - greetings from the UK and thanks for showing this off. I live 1/4 mile from the east Coast line so I've had the opportunity to see the real 'Scotsman' pass by on a number of occasions (and cringe on hearing it's frankly feeble penny whistle). I've also seen the Trix 2-rail version in the flesh and it was a nice looking loco. When running at slow speeds you can hear the 3 'puffs' (1-2-3 1-2-3) you would get from a 3 cylinder locomotive (although some would argue that actually the puffs are in sixes) but the beat on your video sounded like it was getting a bit lost as the loco went at speed - in fact to my ear it sounded like it was not beating fast enough to match the speed of the loco - maybe this was just the sound quality on RUclips? Just a small probably pedantic point - in your commentary you mentioned the nameplate [sic] 'The Flying Scotsman' on the front of the loco - this is actually a 'headboard' and denotes the name of the train that the locomotove is pulling - in this case 'The Flying Scotsman' train which ran non-stop from London to Edinburgh and which would have been hauled by any number of other locos than 60103. The locomotive 60103 is not 'The Flying Scotsman' (as I've mentioned, that's the train) - the loco is more correctly named 'Flying Scotsman' as per the nameplates above the wheel splashers. This causes all sorts of angst among the purists over here! Just wanted to clarify and hopefully my info taken in the spirit that it's offered....
Hiya, Mick! Wow, you got to ride a legend- I remember that! No model is ever perfect, I am sure, but I am glad to see and read a lot of UK people are impressed with it so far!
🇺🇦 Hi ya Anthony. Great vlog buddy. The only trouble I get from my loco going round my layout is the hornby flying Scotsmen. Front pony keep de railing. That one you have looked great. Hope you enjoy it. If you want to see a fantastic flying Scotsmen montage go to Shedmouth Junction. He has A1, A3 and even an A4. All with the William Tell overture. It's brilliant. Thanks for this vlog Anthony. Enjoyed it. You're layout looks superb. I'm dc so no sound.😢 Thanks again for sharing buddy. DELPH JUNCTION (Pete) PS. As you are an American you should really get a big boy.😁
Hello Peter! Thanks for watching and the great information. I saw Martin's video and it was very cool! I have been lucky to find so many great folks to help me learn trains from countries and the generations. As an American, I had no interest in trains, and especially AMerican trains growing up. The only Big Boy that would work on my system was the Märklin version from 2 years ago and it was $700 - way too much for me then. Thanks for writing! All the best to you and yours, Anthony!
Well, I would need 6 Pacifics. I am at 3 now (the Scotsman, and the two 18s from the two Rheingold sets). Technically, the Mallard, but it can not run on the main layout.
Hello, and thanks for coming by. It is probably the most famous loco and deserves to be a favorite. I am just glad it seems to be a high-quality version!
It's a peach, I like it very much. It has all the features I could want in a steam locomotive. What Marklin have chosen to model on the loco, they've done very well. The brunswick green does look a little light but then I prefer that as it catches the eye a little more. Sound file is good and strong, whistle is spot on. I noted it starts off with a pronounced 3 cylinder beat but as it got faster I'm counting in 2's... I'll have a listen to the real thing. Smoke has a really strong fan which looks superb. They knocked it out of the park in my opinion.
Hello, Andy. It is a great looking and sounding model. I would have no idea how accurate colors or sounds are... one steamer sounds like another to me. It is impressive to see folks who hear these things. I guess it is no different than when I can hear something wrong in car engines or things and no one else hears it. I think as long as the model visually is respectful to the original and does get things wrong, I will be doubly happy. Being the first foray into the UK world by them, they need to get it right. I am taking it easy with the smoker element, as I blew one out in my Class 18 Rheingold. I would like to see it steam more like my Rheingold or Class 01 Christmas Steamer do. I just have to be patient. Anyhow, thanks for chiming in and giving it a good grade! Cheers!
The Flying Scotsman looks great Anthony. Now thanks to your layout she has made it to Germany via Ohio. I thought your intro with Khian’s excitement was priceless, Obi Wan is a good teacher. Thanks Anthony. Regards Tom
Hello, Tom and thanks for the kind words. It is a nice model and I hope it does the current Scotsman justice. It also lets me run a UK train on my layout and acknowledge all the UK folks who frequent my channel! Khian was fun to film, just turn on camera and ask questions! lol Cheers and all the best!
I was eager to see the finished product since Marklin announced the Flying Scotsman. And expected I would purchase one set. But my first impression gave me a little disappointing if made from Marklin standard. I am considering of select 37897 for my Christmas gift.
It is made by Märklin. Quality wise, Bachmann nor Hornby come close. The only issue for me is that the color is dulled. Some folks complaining about certain lights being on, those are all controlled by remote. I turned them all on to highlight them... somebody thought they were permanently on. I will never suggest somebody buy or not buy one. I think it is a beautiful loco and fair rendition of the Scotsman, with a couple issues- like all manufacturers have to make.
For people complaining about the weight... Where do you think to find the physical space. This locomotive is a full 5 centimeters shorter compared to a DB Br03.10 with a short tender
IN such designs, I agree, hard to put weight in, unless a solid metal plate is added somewhere in the undercarriage. As I mention int he video, it is average to above average weight compared to my other locos. It seems to run well, and seems to pull my Rheingold coaches well enough.
HI Anthony great model of Flying Scotsman, it a good representation of how she is now, remember she is a working steam engine at the moment. If you look back o nher history you will see that she has been painted about five different colour schemes for apple green to br blue, and now is in br late green. But a a guy that does LNER in the 50' in the right gate N lol. I have three Flying Scotsman's and about six A4 but that another story. Have fun with her. bye for now,take care, stay safe, and have fun.
Hi Carl, and wonderful to hear from you! I know, like Mallard, Scotsman has been through a few iterations. I think doing it as it looks now was a smart move by Märklin, although I am hoping they might release some appropriate rolling stock. I remember Chris Whittingham had about 28 A4s before he passed. Hopefully, I won't do something stupid with this nice model and accidentally make her look as she did a few days ago after hitting the Guardsman. Cheers and take care! It would be cool to see your collection!
The Märklin version is only 3-Rail, but a 2-Rail version is available und the TRIX brand name. (Trix is Märklin's DC/2-Rail HO company. Same models, just AC vs. DC). Check the channel "Hovermotion." My friend Jim is running the Trix version.
super nice detailed engine, and the paint work is great too. I only saw it twice from the distance when it was here in Australia in 1988. One day I'll get one too but in the LNER colour scheme.
Hey, Arty! Well, this is the only choice in HO 3-Rail, so one gets what one can get. I do not have a real preference for colors, but hopefully, this is the start of some O UK trains in 3-Rail.
Errrm bogies? No the tender does NOT have bogies. The steam sound Marklin have used is for a 2 cylinerd locomotive and the A3's were 3 cylinder locomotives, so it should have 6 'chuffs' per full rotation of the driving wheels.
Nice, I think the exhaust beat could have been done better, at speed it sounds more like a 2 cylinder. Strangly they did it right on the CSD blue steamer. I also miss a wooden frame on the first cab window and what the headlights seem a bit bulky. Still looking forward to my Trix variant 😉
Hello and thank you for commenting. I would not recognize one steamer beat from another, but guys who know have commented. Some say they hear three until it gets up to speed, then only two. Obviously, no model ever gets it all right. I just hope it passes the eye test well enough that they will consider doing more from the UK for us in HO 3-Rail. Cheers and all the best!
The valvegear does make it sound different, the Gresley system tends to make the center cylinder less loud. The CSD Albatros has the classic 'take #3 from the wheel' setup that is guaranteed to give a pronounced 3 cylinders sound
I did wonder if you would get this.very nice looking loco..are you getting rolling stock or not release yet? That's a beautiful loco take care Cheers Mark
I talked myself into it a couple months after they announced it. Joyce gave me the stink-eye, lol, but I decided I wanted a UK train I could run on the main layout. They have not announced rolling stock, but I am hopeful, as they sold this run out, which means they made out well on it. Last year they released an iconic Danish model and this year, they released rolling stock for it. So, I am very hopeful. Right now, they are advertising a set of German cars as a nice match... but, at $600, no! I will just use my Rheingolds for now. Anyhow, it was great to see all the shots from Malta... what a beautiful place. Was it very crowded? I always get the impression Malta is crowded. Cheers to you!
Hahaha not just my Mrs then ..that gives the don't you dare look lol. That be cool if they did HO coaches. It really says it all when item is sold out right away. And being ho as you say can run it on your main layout. Malta was nice and was good to get away for a week..not worrying about the house etc. October is off season so wasn't too packed and weather was pleasant and still warm for swimming and stuff. I thought at war museum off you. I know you would off liked the displays. Was not packed only in city center was busy ish Glad we went Anthony Enjoy your stunning new choo choo. Take care fella
@@modelrailwayfantasia Glad to hear Malta was a success. IT is always good to get away. I didn't think Malta would have a real off-season- being in the middle of the Mediterranean, but obviously fewer travelers after the summer holidays. I really do want a nice rake of UK coaches in HO (maybe I can find old Lima somewhere). I like it as a true UK train in 3-rail on my layout. Seeing as how 70% of my friends on the channel are from the UK and Ireland... it would make sense. lol
i was very curious as to what this model would be like and its very nice, nice addition to your collection, i have 00 and would be nice if hornbys 00 version came with the extra features like lights and smoke, i think there are a few details that dont look as good as hornbys latest model but it is a slightly smaller scale and does come with all those great features, thanks for sharing. Tom
There are always sacrifices to be made. Outside the gold special edition, I think details are roughly equal, but I think the interior quality of Märklin blows away what I have had of Hornby (and, for the price, it should). The piping was clearly too big and plastic, but in HO, it would be too fragile to go thinner, whereas that piping would look right in OO. The smokestack is the other controversy, but I do not think it is as bad a couple rabid fans say, and it clearly is done to fit the smoking element in. It is a risk to do a UK model in HO anyhow, as the Hornby, Bachmann, and newer companies dominate the UK product, so most North American and continental companies do not bother. However, a lot of folks in these areas would like some UK stock, but not in OO which may not work in scale or in tight platforms and staging areas. Now, add that many of us run HO in 3-Rail (the dominant powering system in northern and central Europe), and the chance to have ANY UK stock is nigh-impossible. So this was a small risk for Märklin. Most of my UK friends seem quite happy with it and the new visitors to the page seem more split on it- although some reactions may be more nationalistic pride than legit discourse on accuracy. Even OO models make compromises. Anyhow, I have babbled too much here, but thank you for peeking in and commenting!
Thanks for putting the video together. I think you needed more emphasis on the fact this is a British outline model in HO scale - which means its pretty accurate. OO is pretty horrendous and the only thing going for it is that it exists. Most British outline modellers accept the inaccuracies of OO, a few go for more accuracy by changing the gauge to either EM or P4. A very, very small number of us model British outline in HO. I have the Trix version and until I can get some coaches will also be taking the Rheingold in place of my Roco Bavarian S3/6 (Later DRG 18.4). Chimney aside, it is the most accurate 16.5mm gauge British outline standard gauge model available. 🙂
Hello and thanks for watching. It was a 20-minute video without going into all that. My "first impression videos" are more like a grammar/elementary school "show-n-tell." It's a grown-up way to say "hey, look what I got." I do not try to do official reviews- others do them much more thoroughly and better, anyhow. I am not schooled enough in the world of trains to notice that the smokestack is somewhat taller than the original. I bought this because it was the first UK-based model in HO, 3-Rail (AC) format since the 70s or 80s (when Lima and Fleischmann did some), and since our trip to the UK in 2022 and having so many model train friends and even fans in the UK, I wanted UK trains on my German layout. You are right, the OO scale on HO track throws things out of whack for models in the UK, but OO models are still cool (I have a DC Mallard, a Beatles Eurostar, and a Beatles 73 "Singles from Liverpool" train, and an Azuma. I run these on the floor on a couple loops during my livestreams, and sometimes with my grandson. The Beatles stuff was overpriced for the quality, but I am a Beatles fan, so stupidly paid for it anyhow. The Mallard is not great quality, but runs well enough. I love the Azuma. I am only 8 years in the hobby with no previous experience with model trains, other than I thought they were boring when I was young and never played with the one my father bought me.
Its a great hobby. Hopefully in the future there will be more British models available that will allow HO to be the true global scale it should be. It is such an embarrassment that GB misses out, but I won't hold my breath. Happy modelling.
Flying Scotsman is one of my favorite steam locomotive of all time. I am very happy, number 1 that we now have a British HO scale locomotive, number 2, I am very happy that Märklin now has a British locomotive, number 3, I hope to see more British stuff coming from Märklin soon. I am a big time steam guy. And I love see steam locomotives from all world including Continental Europe. But I do enjoy people like you, that are more into modern type of locomotives including from Continental Europe. I do like high speed train like the TGV, ICE, Frecciarossa 1000, Railjet trains, and more. I love see railfans that are into all areas from railroading. Like my friend is into railway crossing especially German ones. But, back to Flying Scotsman. This a great model of how Flying Scotsman likes today restore to it's 1963 British Railways condition. I would like to see to in the future if they would do more version of Flying Scotsman. But we will have to see. Great Video as all ways, RailYard.
Hiya, RY... I think many of us are hopeful this will spawn more, if not by Maerklin, then by other continental companies in HO. Nice to get more background on your interests and thoughts, always good to have all ages, genders, IDs, etc. and get the fun together. I a very impressed with the quality of this model, and I hope it passes the eye tests of Scotsman fans everywhere. Thanks for checking in and commenting!
Awesome engine and review Anthony! I wish you would've done a size comparison between the Marklin Scotsman and your Hornby A4 for some who don't know the difference to see. However, the only Flying Scotsman model I "have" is a wooden Thomas toy from my childhood (released in 1999 when I was five) with the human face and double tenders, but it's put away at the moment I will get rid of it along with most of my other wooden trains in the future. I'm not going to be sad getting rid of it because I am really planning to replace it with a Hornby OO model in the future. Also, I had experiences of playing with virtual models of the Flying Scotsman from Trainz and before that, MSTS before I gave it away several years ago and the chugging sound from the Marklin model somehow reminds me of the MSTS one.
Hello, Owen! The Scotsman is clearly a legend and comes in so many varieties for folks to have. It will show up in the Thomas world, the model world, games, etc... it is too legendary not to include. So, now Märklin have joined in for 3 rail. I agree, I probably should have done the comparison... never thought it... I guess because they are different generations (A3 vs. A4), had this been the Mallard in HO, I would have immediately thought of it. Cheers!
@@ModelTrainOutsider Before the I got Thomas version that was a gift from my family, I used to want the Brio version, but I guess it was a UK exclusive. I still don't know which steam engine is the world's most famous, even though US engines like the muscular UP Big Boy and the speedy NYC Hudsons are up there with the Flying Scotsman, Mallard, and new-build Tornado. I even feel the same way with famous diesels, electrics, and even famous high speed trains.
Hi, Jim! Thanks for stopping by! I like to film live reaction for honest, and sometimes mouth tongue ties- like saying "bogies" when I was looking at the tenders- mind you, I was scanning down the line and the lines hit me as I was looking at the actual bogies on the loco. Anyhow, I think it is an excellent model overall and clearly close enough to the current incarnation, even with a couple bits not quite right, but a valiant effort, nonetheless. Let's see how it runs over time! All the best to you and the family... Oh... and to answer your other question elsewhere... it is a G, but definitely a funky "G" at the end of "Flying"
@@ModelTrainOutsider I have pre ordered the loco months ago but for some reason it's not arrived at my model shop and the shop owner has no idea when the batch will turn up . (Probably stuck in customs for 10 days for the U.K). Yeah that had me worried at first as I've never realised the G looks like a C even on the prototype 🤣 I thought surely Marklin could not make a error like this... Thanks again 👍🏻
This particular model was made at Märklin's Hungary factory. They have two factories- one in Germany and one in Hungary. Some accessories and such are made in China, but not their locos and rolling stock.
Hi Anthony, Well done for getting this iconic UK locomotive which is I would say the most famous one in the world and be able to run it on the main layout. I did have a look at my standard Hornby A3 F/S and the green I would say on mine is a bit darker but Hornby have been known to get colors wrong so we will have to wait for all the "knowleagable" fellows out there to have there say. It will be great tonight to see her run in the live stream and maybe run all your other steamers as well what rolling stock you run is Rule One so see you at 8. Did Khian like her and are Marklin going to do UK rolling stock in HO to run with her?. Cheers Robert.
Hello, Robert! I am grateful for all the great comments by you and others. Most UK folks seem to be impressed with it. There have been a couple mentions of the cylinders not quite right, but I would never know. One steamer sounds like another to me. (SACRILEGE!!!) I had considered running all steamers tonight, but I will save that for Christmas when I do my "Steamerpalooza," as I call it. It will give me time to find some coaches in HO that fit the Scotsman well. Right now, I am using my Rheingold 1928s, which are very suiting. Khian was happy and really wanted to put cars and more on, but he had to leave before it had finished running in and was a bit disappointed his "cool car" was not added on it. lol Cheers and all the best to you! Take care! Anthony
Hi Anthony, Your new Marklin Flying Scotsman is a very highly detailed (compaired to Hornby) model and is a superb runner. The sounds seem to be very well matched to the speed and coupled with the smoke unit makes it look very realistic. Cheers, Paul.💯👍👍
Hello, Paul. I am trying to be very careful with the steam function, as I burned it out on a model, but right now it is not blowing steam as much as I would like- but that is me being cautious, as I said. It is a very nice model and I am glad to see a few UK people are giving it props and not tearing it down as inaccurate! All the best to you, sir!!
Nice loco, I like it. Best not to look at forum pages and simply enjoy it. Most people sharing their wisdom there have never seen the real thing in the flesh anyway, and probably spread wikipedia wisdom... It looks like the loco was popular judging by the number of videos, who knows if this will be anough for Märklin to release a few british oultine coaches in H0 to go with it in the future, that would be good. Congratulations on your new acquisation, have fun! Thanks for sharing this.
Indeed, I am most curious as to what UK folks will say as it is a rare trek into their world by one of the big German/Austrian companies. It has sold well, and overall reviews are positive. Hopefully, M will release a set of cars to go with it!
I enjoyed your review Anthony I had been wondering where Marklin were going to get their market for an HO model of the Scotsman now I know ! It looks a splendid model I do agree the chimney looks a little oversized but could the camera angle as well. At least it wasn't made in China (I assume) and in Marklins factory in Hungary so looks good quality. If you would like to see three versions of the Hornby 00 gauge model running all once I have a video on my channel called "A trio of Hornbys Flying Scotsman" which I did four years ago you may find interesting. Have subbed you, take care Stewart from downunder PS my channel is called Hollpolls Sunshine Coast Model Railway
Thank you and I shall gladly take a look! I think what stands out to me the most is the color being flat and not as shiny. Märklin usually do not miss like that. The stack I assume was to accommodate the smoking apparatus, but the color has no reason to not get it spot on.
The Marklin Model looks fine. In the UK unlike Germany, most steam locomotives have their pipework hidden so they dont have a lot of visible outside pipework. As far as Im aware Marklin have only ever produced one UK liveried model , That was a BR Western Region Diesel locomotive which was based on the DB V200 diesel hydraulic. They didnt produce any coaches for it, an I doubt they will produce any for this.
Hello and thank you for the information. I have been told by friends there was one other UK model. I am not familiar with steam locomotives and the national variations... I am a purely modern era electric/diesel guy, only in the hobby for a few years. As far as the coaches, I am 50/50 on whether they will make any. If there is enough call, and with the success of this model, it is possible. Not probably, but possible.
If you are looking for matching coaches, Fleischmann and Lima made HO scale British coaches, and I have a Fleischmann train waiting for the Flying Scotsman to pull it around my layout..
Very nice. The British Railways green looks a bit light to be honest. My 1969 Tri-ang Hornby 60103 BR model is a bit darker with no smoke deflectors. My LNER 4472 Apple Green model has no smoke deflectors either. I thought that the Britannia was the first with smoke deflectors? The A3 engines were modified A1 models I think. Remember that the Flying Scotsman broke the 100 MPH record. Nice looking model 👍
For some reason, Märklin does not do gloss finishes, even if the actual locos are a gloss finish. That is the biggest issue here. The paint scheme is off because the current iteration of the Scotsman (upon which this is based) is a gloss finish and Märklin dulled it. I have definitely heard from the purists who have let me know how off it is, lol, as if I painted it myself.
Hi, it’s a great review, the model looks impressive apart from the plastic looking pipes. Given its HO scale rather than OO it will be fairly niche market in the Uk and also coming through as quite expensive in GBP. I have a Hornby model in the same livery and if was starting again would probably make the same choice. Best wishes
Hello! As mentioned in the video, this is not for the UK market. It is for HO, 3-Rail folks who want UK trains (as you can get every country but GB/UK in HO 3-rail). This is a test to see if the market is strong enough to expand. They also did a 2-Rail (DCC) version under the TRIX name- again, for the HO scale market. They have no intention of trying to do OO or move into Britain's market, other than the few UK modelers who do European stock (like Jim at Hovermotion)
I hope you enjoy using your new loco, accuracy doesn't matter so much if it pleases the owner :) I will admit it doesn't look like they tried as hard with this as their other steam locos. Hang on a min! I recognise that stream! 😅
Hi, Christopher, my friend! I think they put the mechanical efforts in and design, but the paint needed to be shiny/glossy. The stack issues is more than likely just accommodating the smoker element they elected to use. To be honest, it does not look that out of proportion compared to the pictures you sent me.
Happy Sunday, Anthony. I had to subscribe again. Dang RUclips. It's been way too long since I last visited tou. How are you and Joyce? Have a great week.
@@ModelTrainOutsider Thank you. Danny and I are just glad that the extreme summer conditions seem to be over and that we don't have any hurricanes headed this way. Have a great week.
Very nice Anthony looks great to me. I wouldn't know about colour or anything else on a steam loco as im more diesel/ electric. The thing is Anthony if you like it then thats all that matters in my opinion. Very good atb Andy
Hello Andy! Thanks for joining in and commenting. Obviously, all that matters if I like it, but there is an agenda here. Some of us are hoping Märklin will get enough positive feedback on this to dare to try another UK train. In our AC/3-Rail world, there are trains from many, many countries- mostly Central and Northern Europe and a few from the USA. It is nigh impossible to get UK trains in HO 3-Rail, so this model needs to succeed it there is to be more. Anyhow, always wishing you the best! CHeers!
I think they went with the anniversary edition as more likely to appeal to a broader audience. It is not out of the realm of possibility, even if unlikely, that they could do a repaint in another livery. They just did that with an American ES44 unit, which they released in Union Pacific yellow, but have now just announced a Kansas City-Southern version. This is a very odd choice to me, as it is a much smaller line, but the UP versions are selling out very quickly. Usually when Märklin do American models, they go for the big names, often Union Pacific, to have a wide sales base. Hence, doing the 100th edition of the Scotsman allows them to test a UK loco with the widest possible appeal. As it has already sold out its run from the factory, I am hoping it may encourage more UK HO.
They will milk this loco with as many versions as possible. I already have 3 versions of the French EST13 loco, and the third one is waiting for the matching Edelweiss express train…
@@tomsmaerklintrainlayout6742 In this case, I am not sure. They can do it with French, Swiss, German, even US models, because they have the market. A special anniversary edition of the Scotsman is going to appease HO fans who want a UK train, will an LMS or GWR or BR version sell as well? I don't know. I am just hoping the success of this model might lead to some nice coaches, but we will see.
I am assuming the stack is bigger to accommodate the smoking unit for safety. Otherwise, I am not sure why it would be off, although the Scotsman has had a few changes over its lifespan. I can look through pics to see, but I prefer to hear from the folks who know!
Hi. A shame they didn’t do this in 00 gauge. Although the colour is very pale and wrong shade and the chimney looks the wrong size. Traction tyres on a metal loco? Why? And what would they be like to replace? Cheers. Dave.
Replacing traction tires would not be advisable, but not harder than replacing them on any steam loco. Even though metal, like all companies, they use less metal... more alloy, thinner plates, so modern locos tend not to have the weight of those 30-40 years ago. They have to save production cost, as well as make space for the modern tech. Depending on one's take... it is either an acceptable trade-off, or a sign of how things are just not made the way they used to be. As a newcomer to the hobby, I am non-plussed about traction tires myself, but I respect veterans who do not like them.
@@ModelTrainOutsider I’ve British steam locos made by Hornby and Bachmann, like 4472 so Pacific’s without traction tyres, plastic bodied and lighter than the Marklin model that can pull a full rake of coaches. Traction tyres will fail through use and leave residue on the track. Think Marklin need to move into the modern era with regards to that. Having said that, the DCC sound suite sounds great and smoke too! Would I have one? Yes, what id would run it with regarding coaches, goodness knows as no stick to match that HO size.
If they did this in OO, it would be , well, OO. Which would be a shame. Finally a British 16.5mm gauge model that runs on the correct track. Agree with the chimney but now issues with traction tyres. Mine isTrix.
Oh, there is no way it will make an impact in the UK at all. OO is too entrenched and other factors. The discussion is whether this might start US or continental companies making some UK models. A lot of guys on continental Europe have wanted some UK stock in HO. OO just looks odd on layouts in HO, although many North Americans and Europeans just do it to run some UK stock. The greater issue is for those of us who do 3-Rail and want UK stock, because, unless one buys old Hornby or Tri-Ang 3-Rail (which is not always compatible and is pure analog), there is nothing. Odds are this is a one-off, but if sales and demand are high, then maybe someone will try another... like Mallard or such. There is definitely a demand for UK stock in HO OUTSIDE of the UK... maybe this will be a small stone to start an avalanche.
I think the color is the big issue, looking at comparative pictures. Fantastic loco, but the UK folks are split... some are hating it, some think it is quite nice. I have no dog in the hunt. It is a grand UK loco in HO and 3Rail, meaning I can finally run some British stock on my layout!
I would say that the copper pipe work alongside the smokebox is far too heavy or to thick. And like CasetjonesNumber1 has already sad the chimney is hideosly ugly, it againlike the copper pipework is too large, it over scale. Did they not bother to do some proper research? They could have gone over to England a arranged to see the real locomotive, and got permission to take mesurments etc. And NO golden colours ever, the gold plated models are just stupid. No real locomotive ever had any gold parts on them
Actually, Märklin did send a team over and do it. Some things, even in OO models versions have to be modified for production and display. Looking at the current stacks, it is not that far off, and might possible be to accommodate the smoker unit for safety regulations or such. No model will ever completely recreate the exact thing and certain folks will always find flaws. That is why I am enjoying hearing all sides, especially from UK modelers. I mean, let's face it, OO scale are flawed from the start using HO gauge track. Thank you for the feedback... just remember, I did not design nor make it, and I am not a "train/model expert." I am just a guy who likes to run model trains, especially Central European ones that I have ridden on in my travels. I never grew up with trains or paid attention to them until I was 50 years old.
You can get very accurate replicas of anything, but when you scale down some shapes, they do not look right in the model. I’ve been collecting model cars for over 50 years in all scales, and some of the exactly scaled down versions just don’t look right.
What an absolutely hideously ugly chimney! Where the heck did they get THAT from? Also, flashing red light on the front buffer beam? Only if running in reverse and there's nothing behind it (in which case there wouldn't be the two white 'express passenger' lamps on the buffer beam either - they are only likely to be there in the forward direction (other front lamp positions are possible, depending on the type of train being hauled). Unless Marklin produce any other H0 British rolling stock to go with this, really, what is the point of this model?
The flashing red light is not a permanent thing, I just turned on all the functions, so you could recreate it as need be. As far as the chimney/smokestacks, looking at some current iterations, I do not see them as being THAT far off, but purists will take note. As I mentioned to someone else, ALL models, even OO make compromises to accommodate design, safety and more. The stacks may be off to accommodate safety regulations for the smoker unit inside. There will always be something off. Märklin did send designers over and get measurements, and just like any model, for durability or design issues, certain adjustments are made. It is curious to see the reactions from my UK friends who range in their reviews from "excellent" to "great, but the stack is off a bit" to others who are completely enraged. That right there tells you. Let the rivet counter battles begin. Now, folks not of my channel are voicing views, which I also appreciate. lol Märklin is not trying to take over the OO market, they are celebrating a legendary loco on a historic milestone and answering a call from 3-Rail HO fans to have some UK stock, as the OO stuff is not 3-Rail nowadays, and OO is too awkward a difference on HO layouts. Many North Americans and Continentals do run OO (the 2-Rail HO guys, that is) because they have no choice. We 3-Railers do not even have that option, as it is all 2-Rail stock, except for older UK models. So again, the point of this model was 1. to celebrate the 100th anniversary of, arguably, the most famous loco name in the world. 2. (Possibly) To test the waters with a UK HO train (especial in 3-Rail, which Märklin is, if you didn't know). Whether additional running stock will be made available is unknown at this time. The model has sold out its production run which may inspire Märklin to try others. Some folks do just like to collect locos for display. As I mentioned, in both North America and continental Europe, there is a clamoring for UK. The continental companies like Märklin, Piko, Roco, Brawa, Mehano, ACME and others do make North American stock as well as European stock for their markets. The UK stuff has been avoided because it is assumed that only UK people want it and OO rules that market. However, on the continental clubs and forums which I am a member, there has been a desire for HO UK stock. Now, maybe some UK folks may have a "how dare they..." attitude, but Märklin is, in my opinion, testing the waters. So, the unit is not designed to sell in the UK; especially this one, as it is 3-Rail, but rather in the continental and NA markets, as they also made a 2-rail version under their "TRIX" brand name.
The last time we saw an H0 scale British outline model train was back in the late 1970's, with the Rivarossi 'Royal Scot' and a couple of maroon LMS passenger cars. It bombed, mainly because of the odd choice of scale. British outline - 00 gauge - is 4mm to the foot, or 1/76th scale. H0 is 3.5mm to the foot, 1/87th scale. The two scales side by side look ridiculous. This model, whose UK price is as yet uncertain, is incorrect in a number of points, mainly with the choice of a dull paint-job. The real loco has a Rolls-Royce-like high gloss finish, as you can see on any number of movies here in RUclips. Not for me, thank you.
I am familiar with the scale sizes- proportions and ratios. As I run Central European HO in 3-Rail/AC mode, it is usually not an issue. However, my travels in the UK had me pick up a couple OO trains which I run on the floor, as they are analog in DC/2-Rail and will not work on my train table. However, I would love to have some UK trains in 3-Rail on my upper layout, and this was a first in many, many years. Despite getting the color wrong as a dull coat (Märklin does not do gloss coats on any models for some reason, despite being industry leader). I think the smokestack issue is overblown (pardon the pun). In any case, it is a fantastic running model, and it is HO, so having an HO UK locomotive, especially the most famous steamer in the world, and having it in 3-rail/AC is all win for me. I am not trying to sell this to anyone. Märklin is not trying to sell to the UK market, as it is all OO there. They are merely trying to honor the Scotsman's 100th birthday and answer a call by HO enthusiasts around the world who want UK stock in HO, because, as you said, OO just looks wrong with HO. Many of us are hopeful that the sales (this has sold out at factory) will encourage more attempts... and maybe even get the color right. lol
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Hello Anthony, great job Khian nice intro!
Wow Marklin have done an incredible job! The level of detailing is amazing! The sound file and smoke is spot on. Great video Anthony all the best to you and Joyce!
Hello, Deano!! I think it is a good-looking model, but I am not experienced enough to know if it properly captures the current version of the Scotsman, so it is folks from the UK who will let me know. So far, reviews seem to be good, with some little bits- but that is expected. No one ever gets it all exact. Hopefully it will shine on the stream today!
looks to be the best flyingscotsman iv seen.
I'm glad you like. It has pros and cons as for a reproduction, but it is definitely a great runner.
Congratulations on a cornerstone piece. I'll raise a Guinness to that🚂🇨🇦🇬🇧🇺🇲🙋
Well, now I can run a UK train on my real layout in honor of all my UK friends!
Adorable!!! Lol, let's open it up!!😂 Sweet locomotive. Famous locomotive. I'm digging the firebox lights! Sounds great. Smooth running!!🫵👍✌️
Hey, Pluber! Thanks for checking in! This is a very special release, as it is very rare for any German/Continental European company to do a UK train, as the OO market discourages it. This one has sold very well, so hopefully more will come.
@@ModelTrainOutsider is beautiful. I hope there are more to come!👍👍
@@theplumber33 I certainly do. The next releases (which I did not order) which just came out are the 2 Union Pacific EF44s in yellow. I am so debating getting one, but too many preorders are coming in over the next few weeks, I can't spare the train budget for it.
That’s a great looking Green locomotive you got there and with real impressive sound functions. Bear in mind that this locomotive have been on a world tour to both America as well as Australia so the choice of cars to run with it is quite brought - it looks really good with the reingold cars. So congratulations with this steamer in this nice green livery - since I recall that green locomotives are among your favourites.😉 Looking forward to tonights stream.
P.s. Great intro with Khian.❤️
Yes, the Scotsman has gone on world tours, so I can imagine it running on my layout. Either way, it is a nice model and makes my "Steamerpalooza" (Steamer Gala) complete- I can now run six full steamers on my layout. I just need some nice coaches for it. As you said hopefully they will release a matching car set.
Very nice Anthony. Lovely looking loco.When he visited the USA in 1963 he pulled American coaches, so you can have anything behind it. All the best.
Hello, Tim, and I agree, it can pull anything. I am hopeful to find some old Lima or someone else who has appropriate UK coaches in HO. Even though this is the current version of the Scotsman, I would like to have it pull some UK stock in HO to honor all the UK fans of the channel. A true UK train on my layout. I will then hope they make a Mallard. lol
Really nice AD, looks, runs & sounds very well indeed. Glad to see wee Khian is looking better too.👍🏻
Hello, Ben! Yes, Khian seems to be better. I am quite pleased with the purchase. I originally didn't plan to buy it, but changed my mind, much to the chagrin of Joyce, but it is great to have it now! The sound hits me as amazing, although I am hearing from the people in the know that it sounds not quite right up to speed. I would never know, lol
Hi Mate,
What does Function 11's:
Engineer's cab lighting do?
Cheers!
Great question! There actually is a small cab light in there and, in the dark, you can see it lit up. Not very bright.
Super model and great review of it Anthony ! Detail on it amazing ! Love the smoke ! You will have many happy hours running this round your layout for sure 👍
Indeed! It seems to be a great model out of the box!
Am totally blown away by this model..And it even sounds right ..Top Man Anthony.
Wow, Allan, I take that as great praise for it. I am hearing from some that the cylinder beat may be off (2 instead of 3, but I know nothing of these things). Thank you for checking in and commenting! All the dearest to you and the family!
The smoke deflectors are brass and the smoke stack is part of the diecast boiler
They are? Cool, thank you for the correction! They felt plastic, which I was shocked to see, but perhaps the finish on the paint job made it feel that way. As for the stacks, also great to hear, although it sure looked secondary attachment. Anyhow, it is always good to get the clarification. Thank you!
@@ModelTrainOutsider Touch the parts with your tongue. Metal always feels colder than plastic. The one exception is titanium which feels warmer than other metals.
The loco looks to be the standard Marklin Trix construction method. Zinc die-cast alloy boiler and tender with plastic cab.
@@1maico1 I'll just take folks word for it.
Wow I can’t believe how well the little man’s talking has come on. He’s growing up quick 👍 lovely loco with excellent detail.
Great overview of the loco Anthony thank you for sharing.
All the best to you and the family
Andy
Hello, Andy! Yes, he is maturing in leaps and bounds, and is a lot of fun when he wants to ham for the camera. The loco is quite impressive, and I hope it stands out to UK folks as quality. Not that they expect to sell any in the UK, but so we who buy it feel they got it right. Anyhow, all the best to you and your family! Thanks for being a part of it all!.
There are two major flaws with this model - #1 being the wromg color and #2 being the finish. The protoptype sports a glossy finish, which is meticulously kept shining, not a satin finish.
I think the two flaws are welded into one- to get a shinier finish, the color would have been lighter. This is, to me, the biggest issue. Although I find the color and paint job immaculate, it is not right for the time it is representing, and I agree. The model itself is exquisite, but the color is not right. It is beyond me as to how Märklin missed on that, they tend to be very meticulous. Perhaps they measured and photgraphed when it was in shop being refitted for its 100th and a final coat had not been applie? I do not know and only hazard a guess. I heartily welcome you and such an excellent point on this! Thank you!
What a stunning and beautiful looking loco, an all time fave for sure, runs as sweet as a nut. What an excellent addition Anthony, you'll run it loads, well you gotta. :) All the best. Brian @ The Angels
Hello, Brian... I am very glad to hear you approve of it. I knew quality and detail would be there, but I want to hear from the UK and Irish folks who know this train best. Thanks for checking in with me and commenting!
That looks like a wonderful model there Anthony! Cheers! (Dave).
Hello, Dave! It looks good and runs well, I just hope it passes the eye test to those who know the original in reconstructed build as it now appears. It is weird, nowadays, to have UK trains in HO scale, so this was a big step.
Hopefully everything goes well as planned for you.@@ModelTrainOutsider
Hello Anthony. I have got the flying Scotsman, the Marklin one. I’d like to know, because I don’t have the Lima ho coaches, and they aren’t really realistic. LMS wasn’t operation when the MK1 coaches were made. I don’t have them, which coaches would you recommend, Marklin or any other HO manufacturer (budget:200$)
That's a great question, and I could not give you a definitive answer. How prototypical do you need? My friend Jim @Hovermotion put a rake of HO Post War German coaches together that looks brilliant with the Scotsman, but certainly not prototypical: ruclips.net/video/tyHwVOlSyv4/видео.html and here ruclips.net/video/D02OBH3GIgc/видео.html I am not extremely well versed in what the Flying Scotsman ran with, and some UK friends and a very knowledgeable Dutchman named @Ivo Van Zon suggested I get the Lima LMS coaches or even BR coaches. I used a couple sites which give coach information : www.british-ho.com/?fbclid=IwAR3plW6aJlSNHydLNae74yVGd48zOozFqX17PEZiO-Nc-ixOjbmMj3QR5xo and www.limabritishho.co.uk/LBHO-Coaches.htm?fbclid=IwAR1zBpgujW5j5BBjcLd_wQWrVqmOuVJ1KwgAtcFS1PZ9eWXW5p664YARDZw. Otherwise, I am not much use to you.
You may not be interested but Rails of Sheffield ebay store currently have the British Fleischmann HO coaches for sale. They are the same green ones Hovermotion has for his HO Scotsman. Rails of Sheffield is selling a set of 5 of them. They are for sale on the ebay store for less than £50 total.
I shall take a look! Thanks for the tip!
Cool...superb loco,
Not got mine yet but I should be getting a call soon..
This model is only two axel drive by the looks of the exploded views.
Some layouts the loco has struggled and failed to pull a rake of coaches up a helex system..you should be fine here..
Thanks for showing 👍🏻 23:20
Helo, Jim! I have seen some videos, but no one running a helix. I just heard gents questioning the weight, along with similar posts on Facebook. I have it pulling some Rheingold coaches right now and it seems to be handling the incline. I find it weird they would only do 2-wheel drive these days, but maybe it had to be done that way. Anyhow, thanks for watching! Hope you are well and all the best to the family! Cheers!@
Thats a really nice engine, the interior detail is a plus.. great video Anthony 😊
Hello, Jorge! It is a great steamer. I don't think I was able to get the cab details in focus very well, but it is nicely done. Thanks for watching and commenting!
What a cutey. And the engine is nice too. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching! Khian was eager, unfortunately, he had to go home before it finished running in, so he didn't get to play with it!
Great review Anthony, lovely model I must say, I love all of the features and details, looks good, sounds good... absolute winner. 👌
Hi again, Martin! I am so glad to hear you approve, as i wrote on the short. This is a great loco and knowing it works to UK eyes is a blessing!
Hi Anthony - greetings from the UK and thanks for showing this off. I live 1/4 mile from the east Coast line so I've had the opportunity to see the real 'Scotsman' pass by on a number of occasions (and cringe on hearing it's frankly feeble penny whistle).
I've also seen the Trix 2-rail version in the flesh and it was a nice looking loco. When running at slow speeds you can hear the 3 'puffs' (1-2-3 1-2-3) you would get from a 3 cylinder locomotive (although some would argue that actually the puffs are in sixes) but the beat on your video sounded like it was getting a bit lost as the loco went at speed - in fact to my ear it sounded like it was not beating fast enough to match the speed of the loco - maybe this was just the sound quality on RUclips?
Just a small probably pedantic point - in your commentary you mentioned the nameplate [sic] 'The Flying Scotsman' on the front of the loco - this is actually a 'headboard' and denotes the name of the train that the locomotove is pulling - in this case 'The Flying Scotsman' train which ran non-stop from London to Edinburgh and which would have been hauled by any number of other locos than 60103. The locomotive 60103 is not 'The Flying Scotsman' (as I've mentioned, that's the train) - the loco is more correctly named 'Flying Scotsman' as per the nameplates above the wheel splashers.
This causes all sorts of angst among the purists over here!
Just wanted to clarify and hopefully my info taken in the spirit that it's offered....
@@andybuckley9223 No worries... always like friendly education updates.
Great looking loco Anthony.👍I went on the real one a couple of months ago.
No doubt the rivet counters will have something to say.😃😃
Hiya, Mick! Wow, you got to ride a legend- I remember that! No model is ever perfect, I am sure, but I am glad to see and read a lot of UK people are impressed with it so far!
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Hi ya Anthony.
Great vlog buddy.
The only trouble I get from my loco going round my layout is the hornby flying Scotsmen. Front pony keep de railing.
That one you have looked great. Hope you enjoy it.
If you want to see a fantastic flying Scotsmen montage go to Shedmouth Junction. He has A1, A3 and even an A4. All with the William Tell overture. It's brilliant.
Thanks for this vlog Anthony. Enjoyed it.
You're layout looks superb.
I'm dc so no sound.😢
Thanks again for sharing buddy.
DELPH JUNCTION (Pete)
PS. As you are an American you should really get a big boy.😁
Hello Peter! Thanks for watching and the great information. I saw Martin's video and it was very cool! I have been lucky to find so many great folks to help me learn trains from countries and the generations. As an American, I had no interest in trains, and especially AMerican trains growing up. The only Big Boy that would work on my system was the Märklin version from 2 years ago and it was $700 - way too much for me then. Thanks for writing! All the best to you and yours, Anthony!
How many locomotives are needed to do a full pacific running session?
Well, I would need 6 Pacifics. I am at 3 now (the Scotsman, and the two 18s from the two Rheingold sets). Technically, the Mallard, but it can not run on the main layout.
Thumbs Up!!! Super nice Video! BIG LIKE! ❤
Big thanks
This is a beautiful locomotive, one of my son's favorites.
Hello, and thanks for coming by. It is probably the most famous loco and deserves to be a favorite. I am just glad it seems to be a high-quality version!
It's a peach, I like it very much. It has all the features I could want in a steam locomotive. What Marklin have chosen to model on the loco, they've done very well. The brunswick green does look a little light but then I prefer that as it catches the eye a little more. Sound file is good and strong, whistle is spot on. I noted it starts off with a pronounced 3 cylinder beat but as it got faster I'm counting in 2's... I'll have a listen to the real thing.
Smoke has a really strong fan which looks superb. They knocked it out of the park in my opinion.
Hello, Andy. It is a great looking and sounding model. I would have no idea how accurate colors or sounds are... one steamer sounds like another to me. It is impressive to see folks who hear these things. I guess it is no different than when I can hear something wrong in car engines or things and no one else hears it. I think as long as the model visually is respectful to the original and does get things wrong, I will be doubly happy. Being the first foray into the UK world by them, they need to get it right. I am taking it easy with the smoker element, as I blew one out in my Class 18 Rheingold. I would like to see it steam more like my Rheingold or Class 01 Christmas Steamer do. I just have to be patient. Anyhow, thanks for chiming in and giving it a good grade! Cheers!
@@ModelTrainOutsider The coaches you have look great behind the Scotsman.
@@hotdogpilot6319 Those are definitely some high-end coaches, and thus appropriate, but I still want a nice UK rake if I can find them.
Very nice Anthony. Beautiful engine. Thanks for sharing. Dave
Thank you, Dave. It is a classic and legendary, so I was glad they made one for my 3-Rail layout.
The Flying Scotsman looks great Anthony. Now thanks to your layout she has made it to Germany via Ohio. I thought your intro with Khian’s excitement was priceless, Obi Wan is a good teacher. Thanks Anthony. Regards Tom
Hello, Tom and thanks for the kind words. It is a nice model and I hope it does the current Scotsman justice. It also lets me run a UK train on my layout and acknowledge all the UK folks who frequent my channel! Khian was fun to film, just turn on camera and ask questions! lol Cheers and all the best!
I was eager to see the finished product since Marklin announced the Flying Scotsman. And expected I would purchase one set. But my first impression gave me a little disappointing if made from Marklin standard. I am considering of select 37897 for my Christmas gift.
It is made by Märklin. Quality wise, Bachmann nor Hornby come close. The only issue for me is that the color is dulled. Some folks complaining about certain lights being on, those are all controlled by remote. I turned them all on to highlight them... somebody thought they were permanently on. I will never suggest somebody buy or not buy one. I think it is a beautiful loco and fair rendition of the Scotsman, with a couple issues- like all manufacturers have to make.
For people complaining about the weight... Where do you think to find the physical space. This locomotive is a full 5 centimeters shorter compared to a DB Br03.10 with a short tender
IN such designs, I agree, hard to put weight in, unless a solid metal plate is added somewhere in the undercarriage. As I mention int he video, it is average to above average weight compared to my other locos. It seems to run well, and seems to pull my Rheingold coaches well enough.
HI Anthony great model of Flying Scotsman, it a good representation of how she is now, remember she is a working steam engine at the moment. If you look back o nher history you will see that she has been painted about five different colour schemes for apple green to br blue, and now is in br late green. But a a guy that does LNER in the 50' in the right gate N lol. I have three Flying Scotsman's and about six A4 but that another story. Have fun with her. bye for now,take care, stay safe, and have fun.
Hi Carl, and wonderful to hear from you! I know, like Mallard, Scotsman has been through a few iterations. I think doing it as it looks now was a smart move by Märklin, although I am hoping they might release some appropriate rolling stock. I remember Chris Whittingham had about 28 A4s before he passed. Hopefully, I won't do something stupid with this nice model and accidentally make her look as she did a few days ago after hitting the Guardsman. Cheers and take care! It would be cool to see your collection!
Does this only work on that HO 3 rail system that I literally didn’t know existed until I saw this video?
The Märklin version is only 3-Rail, but a 2-Rail version is available und the TRIX brand name. (Trix is Märklin's DC/2-Rail HO company. Same models, just AC vs. DC). Check the channel "Hovermotion." My friend Jim is running the Trix version.
@@ModelTrainOutsiderAwesome! Looks like ModelTrainStuff has the Trix version. But that price…😬
@@rodimussupreme2329 Indeed, although the best prices are direct from Germany- Modellbahn Shop Lippe or Bessere Preise. You'll save a lot.
@@ModelTrainOutsider Even for an American?
super nice detailed engine, and the paint work is great too. I only saw it twice from the distance when it was here in Australia in 1988.
One day I'll get one too but in the LNER colour scheme.
Hey, Arty! Well, this is the only choice in HO 3-Rail, so one gets what one can get. I do not have a real preference for colors, but hopefully, this is the start of some O UK trains in 3-Rail.
Errrm bogies? No the tender does NOT have bogies. The steam sound Marklin have used is for a 2 cylinerd locomotive and the A3's were 3 cylinder locomotives, so it should have 6 'chuffs' per full rotation of the driving wheels.
Sorry, I am not a technical guy, and I film this live and mental slips do happen. My apologies. Axles, if you need.
Very nice! Can it run faster? And can it run quiet?
Yes, it runs much faster, and the loco itself runs very quietly.
That is a beautiful train. Thank yiu for sharing 😊
Thank you, Tammy! Glad you watched and commented! All the best to you!
Nice, I think the exhaust beat could have been done better, at speed it sounds more like a 2 cylinder. Strangly they did it right on the CSD blue steamer. I also miss a wooden frame on the first cab window and what the headlights seem a bit bulky. Still looking forward to my Trix variant 😉
Hello and thank you for commenting. I would not recognize one steamer beat from another, but guys who know have commented. Some say they hear three until it gets up to speed, then only two. Obviously, no model ever gets it all right. I just hope it passes the eye test well enough that they will consider doing more from the UK for us in HO 3-Rail. Cheers and all the best!
The valvegear does make it sound different, the Gresley system tends to make the center cylinder less loud. The CSD Albatros has the classic 'take #3 from the wheel' setup that is guaranteed to give a pronounced 3 cylinders sound
I did wonder if you would get this.very nice looking loco..are you getting rolling stock or not release yet?
That's a beautiful loco take care Cheers Mark
I talked myself into it a couple months after they announced it. Joyce gave me the stink-eye, lol, but I decided I wanted a UK train I could run on the main layout. They have not announced rolling stock, but I am hopeful, as they sold this run out, which means they made out well on it. Last year they released an iconic Danish model and this year, they released rolling stock for it. So, I am very hopeful. Right now, they are advertising a set of German cars as a nice match... but, at $600, no! I will just use my Rheingolds for now. Anyhow, it was great to see all the shots from Malta... what a beautiful place. Was it very crowded? I always get the impression Malta is crowded. Cheers to you!
Hahaha not just my Mrs then ..that gives the don't you dare look lol.
That be cool if they did HO coaches.
It really says it all when item is sold out right away.
And being ho as you say can run it on your main layout.
Malta was nice and was good to get away for a week..not worrying about the house etc.
October is off season so wasn't too packed and weather was pleasant and still warm for swimming and stuff.
I thought at war museum off you.
I know you would off liked the displays. Was not packed only in city center was busy ish
Glad we went Anthony
Enjoy your stunning new choo choo.
Take care fella
@@modelrailwayfantasia Glad to hear Malta was a success. IT is always good to get away. I didn't think Malta would have a real off-season- being in the middle of the Mediterranean, but obviously fewer travelers after the summer holidays. I really do want a nice rake of UK coaches in HO (maybe I can find old Lima somewhere). I like it as a true UK train in 3-rail on my layout. Seeing as how 70% of my friends on the channel are from the UK and Ireland... it would make sense. lol
i was very curious as to what this model would be like and its very nice, nice addition to your collection, i have 00 and would be nice if hornbys 00 version came with the extra features like lights and smoke, i think there are a few details that dont look as good as hornbys latest model but it is a slightly smaller scale and does come with all those great features, thanks for sharing. Tom
There are always sacrifices to be made. Outside the gold special edition, I think details are roughly equal, but I think the interior quality of Märklin blows away what I have had of Hornby (and, for the price, it should). The piping was clearly too big and plastic, but in HO, it would be too fragile to go thinner, whereas that piping would look right in OO. The smokestack is the other controversy, but I do not think it is as bad a couple rabid fans say, and it clearly is done to fit the smoking element in. It is a risk to do a UK model in HO anyhow, as the Hornby, Bachmann, and newer companies dominate the UK product, so most North American and continental companies do not bother. However, a lot of folks in these areas would like some UK stock, but not in OO which may not work in scale or in tight platforms and staging areas. Now, add that many of us run HO in 3-Rail (the dominant powering system in northern and central Europe), and the chance to have ANY UK stock is nigh-impossible. So this was a small risk for Märklin. Most of my UK friends seem quite happy with it and the new visitors to the page seem more split on it- although some reactions may be more nationalistic pride than legit discourse on accuracy. Even OO models make compromises. Anyhow, I have babbled too much here, but thank you for peeking in and commenting!
The gold palates Hornby is just a normal super detail Hornby with some gold detail. It’s the same as a regular Hornby super detail that sell
I understand, but the gold plate made it stand out... as it was meant to do, of course. Part of my ADD... I am drawn to shiny.
Thanks for putting the video together. I think you needed more emphasis on the fact this is a British outline model in HO scale - which means its pretty accurate. OO is pretty horrendous and the only thing going for it is that it exists. Most British outline modellers accept the inaccuracies of OO, a few go for more accuracy by changing the gauge to either EM or P4. A very, very small number of us model British outline in HO.
I have the Trix version and until I can get some coaches will also be taking the Rheingold in place of my Roco Bavarian S3/6 (Later DRG 18.4). Chimney aside, it is the most accurate 16.5mm gauge British outline standard gauge model available.
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Hello and thanks for watching. It was a 20-minute video without going into all that. My "first impression videos" are more like a grammar/elementary school "show-n-tell." It's a grown-up way to say "hey, look what I got." I do not try to do official reviews- others do them much more thoroughly and better, anyhow. I am not schooled enough in the world of trains to notice that the smokestack is somewhat taller than the original. I bought this because it was the first UK-based model in HO, 3-Rail (AC) format since the 70s or 80s (when Lima and Fleischmann did some), and since our trip to the UK in 2022 and having so many model train friends and even fans in the UK, I wanted UK trains on my German layout. You are right, the OO scale on HO track throws things out of whack for models in the UK, but OO models are still cool (I have a DC Mallard, a Beatles Eurostar, and a Beatles 73 "Singles from Liverpool" train, and an Azuma. I run these on the floor on a couple loops during my livestreams, and sometimes with my grandson. The Beatles stuff was overpriced for the quality, but I am a Beatles fan, so stupidly paid for it anyhow. The Mallard is not great quality, but runs well enough. I love the Azuma. I am only 8 years in the hobby with no previous experience with model trains, other than I thought they were boring when I was young and never played with the one my father bought me.
Its a great hobby. Hopefully in the future there will be more British models available that will allow HO to be the true global scale it should be. It is such an embarrassment that GB misses out, but I won't hold my breath. Happy modelling.
I love this, especially the smoke.
I do love the smoke functions!
@ModelTrainOutsider They make it look real.
@@SarahsAtticOfTreasures Indeed!
It looks good,Sounds good,and runs good.enjoy your new train
Indeed, Arthur! Thanks!
Flying Scotsman is one of my favorite steam locomotive of all time. I am very happy, number 1 that we now have a British HO scale locomotive, number 2, I am very happy that Märklin now has a British locomotive, number 3, I hope to see more British stuff coming from Märklin soon. I am a big time steam guy. And I love see steam locomotives from all world including Continental Europe. But I do enjoy people like you, that are more into modern type of locomotives including from Continental Europe. I do like high speed train like the TGV, ICE, Frecciarossa 1000, Railjet trains, and more. I love see railfans that are into all areas from railroading. Like my friend is into railway crossing especially German ones. But, back to Flying Scotsman. This a great model of how Flying Scotsman likes today restore to it's 1963 British Railways condition. I would like to see to in the future if they would do more version of Flying Scotsman. But we will have to see. Great Video as all ways, RailYard.
Hiya, RY... I think many of us are hopeful this will spawn more, if not by Maerklin, then by other continental companies in HO. Nice to get more background on your interests and thoughts, always good to have all ages, genders, IDs, etc. and get the fun together. I a very impressed with the quality of this model, and I hope it passes the eye tests of Scotsman fans everywhere. Thanks for checking in and commenting!
Awesome engine and review Anthony! I wish you would've done a size comparison between the Marklin Scotsman and your Hornby A4 for some who don't know the difference to see. However, the only Flying Scotsman model I "have" is a wooden Thomas toy from my childhood (released in 1999 when I was five) with the human face and double tenders, but it's put away at the moment I will get rid of it along with most of my other wooden trains in the future. I'm not going to be sad getting rid of it because I am really planning to replace it with a Hornby OO model in the future. Also, I had experiences of playing with virtual models of the Flying Scotsman from Trainz and before that, MSTS before I gave it away several years ago and the chugging sound from the Marklin model somehow reminds me of the MSTS one.
Hello, Owen! The Scotsman is clearly a legend and comes in so many varieties for folks to have. It will show up in the Thomas world, the model world, games, etc... it is too legendary not to include. So, now Märklin have joined in for 3 rail. I agree, I probably should have done the comparison... never thought it... I guess because they are different generations (A3 vs. A4), had this been the Mallard in HO, I would have immediately thought of it. Cheers!
@@ModelTrainOutsider Before the I got Thomas version that was a gift from my family, I used to want the Brio version, but I guess it was a UK exclusive. I still don't know which steam engine is the world's most famous, even though US engines like the muscular UP Big Boy and the speedy NYC Hudsons are up there with the Flying Scotsman, Mallard, and new-build Tornado. I even feel the same way with famous diesels, electrics, and even famous high speed trains.
Very nice Anthony
Thank you, Rick and Pauline! Hope you both are well. I was wondering how Rick might view this with his knowledge of UK models.
Very cool 👍🏻
I do hope it pleases folks!
Superb overview Anthony.
Hi, Jim! Thanks for stopping by! I like to film live reaction for honest, and sometimes mouth tongue ties- like saying "bogies" when I was looking at the tenders- mind you, I was scanning down the line and the lines hit me as I was looking at the actual bogies on the loco. Anyhow, I think it is an excellent model overall and clearly close enough to the current incarnation, even with a couple bits not quite right, but a valiant effort, nonetheless. Let's see how it runs over time! All the best to you and the family...
Oh... and to answer your other question elsewhere... it is a G, but definitely a funky "G" at the end of "Flying"
@@ModelTrainOutsider
I have pre ordered the loco months ago but for some reason it's not arrived at my model shop and the shop owner has no idea when the batch will turn up .
(Probably stuck in customs for 10 days for the U.K).
Yeah that had me worried at first as I've never realised the G looks like a C even on the prototype 🤣 I thought surely Marklin could not make a error like this...
Thanks again 👍🏻
Could you please tell me where the manufacturer? Made in Germany?
This particular model was made at Märklin's Hungary factory. They have two factories- one in Germany and one in Hungary. Some accessories and such are made in China, but not their locos and rolling stock.
Hi Anthony,
Well done for getting this iconic UK locomotive which is I would say the most famous one in the world and be able to run it on the main layout. I did have a look at my standard Hornby A3 F/S and the green I would say on mine is a bit darker but Hornby have been known to get colors wrong so we will have to wait for all the "knowleagable" fellows out there to have there say. It will be great tonight to see her run in the live stream and maybe run all your other steamers as well what rolling stock you run is Rule One so see you at 8. Did Khian like her and are Marklin going to do UK rolling stock in HO to run with her?.
Cheers Robert.
Hello, Robert!
I am grateful for all the great comments by you and others. Most UK folks seem to be impressed with it. There have been a couple mentions of the cylinders not quite right, but I would never know. One steamer sounds like another to me. (SACRILEGE!!!) I had considered running all steamers tonight, but I will save that for Christmas when I do my "Steamerpalooza," as I call it. It will give me time to find some coaches in HO that fit the Scotsman well. Right now, I am using my Rheingold 1928s, which are very suiting. Khian was happy and really wanted to put cars and more on, but he had to leave before it had finished running in and was a bit disappointed his "cool car" was not added on it. lol Cheers and all the best to you! Take care!
Anthony
Hi Anthony, Your new Marklin Flying Scotsman is a very highly detailed (compaired to Hornby) model and is a superb runner. The sounds seem to be very well matched to the speed and coupled with the smoke unit makes it look very realistic. Cheers, Paul.💯👍👍
Hello, Paul. I am trying to be very careful with the steam function, as I burned it out on a model, but right now it is not blowing steam as much as I would like- but that is me being cautious, as I said. It is a very nice model and I am glad to see a few UK people are giving it props and not tearing it down as inaccurate! All the best to you, sir!!
That is super cool locomotive, hopefully they will do the mallard sometime soon
I would be thrilled beyond belief if they did a Mallard. I just hope they make some matching coaches!
Thanks for sharing. Stay safe.
Thanks, you too!
Nice loco, I like it. Best not to look at forum pages and simply enjoy it. Most people sharing their wisdom there have never seen the real thing in the flesh anyway, and probably spread wikipedia wisdom... It looks like the loco was popular judging by the number of videos, who knows if this will be anough for Märklin to release a few british oultine coaches in H0 to go with it in the future, that would be good. Congratulations on your new acquisation, have fun! Thanks for sharing this.
Indeed, I am most curious as to what UK folks will say as it is a rare trek into their world by one of the big German/Austrian companies. It has sold well, and overall reviews are positive. Hopefully, M will release a set of cars to go with it!
I enjoyed your review Anthony I had been wondering where Marklin were going to get their market for an HO model of the Scotsman now I know ! It looks a splendid model I do agree the chimney looks a little oversized but could the camera angle as well. At least it wasn't made in China (I assume) and in Marklins factory in Hungary so looks good quality. If you would like to see three versions of the Hornby 00 gauge model running all once I have a video on my channel called "A trio of Hornbys Flying Scotsman" which I did four years ago you may find interesting. Have subbed you, take care
Stewart from downunder
PS my channel is called Hollpolls Sunshine Coast Model Railway
Thank you and I shall gladly take a look! I think what stands out to me the most is the color being flat and not as shiny. Märklin usually do not miss like that. The stack I assume was to accommodate the smoking apparatus, but the color has no reason to not get it spot on.
wonderful video sharing
Thanks for visiting
The Marklin Model looks fine. In the UK unlike Germany, most steam locomotives have their pipework hidden so they dont have a lot of visible outside pipework. As far as Im aware Marklin have only ever produced one UK liveried model , That was a BR Western Region Diesel locomotive which was based on the DB V200 diesel hydraulic. They didnt produce any coaches for it, an I doubt they will produce any for this.
Hello and thank you for the information. I have been told by friends there was one other UK model. I am not familiar with steam locomotives and the national variations... I am a purely modern era electric/diesel guy, only in the hobby for a few years. As far as the coaches, I am 50/50 on whether they will make any. If there is enough call, and with the success of this model, it is possible. Not probably, but possible.
If you are looking for matching coaches, Fleischmann and Lima made HO scale British coaches, and I have a Fleischmann train waiting for the Flying Scotsman to pull it around my layout..
I knew you were going to buy that locomotive. 🤑😎🚂
Well, I did talk about it for a while. lol The funny thing is, I have seen the OO versions, and this one now feels small! Too funny that.
what is the weight of this engine? thanks
It weighed 495 grams (1.1 pounds).
@@ModelTrainOutsiderThanks, I really wanna buy one
@martinwei5695 Cool, just rember this is 3-Rail/AC. A 2-Rail/DC version is available from Märklin's sister-company Trix.
@@ModelTrainOutsideroh, i c thnx. trix is 22886
Cracking looking model, I`m sure you`ll find something to pull behind it
I need your skills, but in HO. I am going to scour Fleabay and see if there are some inexpensive HO cars which would suit it.
maybe some european pullman coaches @@ModelTrainOutsider
Very nice.
The British Railways green looks a bit light to be honest.
My 1969 Tri-ang Hornby 60103 BR model is a bit darker with no smoke deflectors.
My LNER 4472 Apple Green model has no smoke deflectors either.
I thought that the Britannia was the first with smoke deflectors?
The A3 engines were modified A1 models I think.
Remember that the Flying Scotsman broke the 100 MPH record.
Nice looking model 👍
For some reason, Märklin does not do gloss finishes, even if the actual locos are a gloss finish. That is the biggest issue here. The paint scheme is off because the current iteration of the Scotsman (upon which this is based) is a gloss finish and Märklin dulled it. I have definitely heard from the purists who have let me know how off it is, lol, as if I painted it myself.
Hi, it’s a great review, the model looks impressive apart from the plastic looking pipes. Given its HO scale rather than OO it will be fairly niche market in the Uk and also coming through as quite expensive in GBP. I have a Hornby model in the same livery and if was starting again would probably make the same choice. Best wishes
Hello! As mentioned in the video, this is not for the UK market. It is for HO, 3-Rail folks who want UK trains (as you can get every country but GB/UK in HO 3-rail). This is a test to see if the market is strong enough to expand. They also did a 2-Rail (DCC) version under the TRIX name- again, for the HO scale market. They have no intention of trying to do OO or move into Britain's market, other than the few UK modelers who do European stock (like Jim at Hovermotion)
I hope you enjoy using your new loco, accuracy doesn't matter so much if it pleases the owner :)
I will admit it doesn't look like they tried as hard with this as their other steam locos.
Hang on a min! I recognise that stream! 😅
Hi, Christopher, my friend! I think they put the mechanical efforts in and design, but the paint needed to be shiny/glossy. The stack issues is more than likely just accommodating the smoker element they elected to use. To be honest, it does not look that out of proportion compared to the pictures you sent me.
Happy Sunday, Anthony. I had to subscribe again. Dang RUclips. It's been way too long since I last visited tou. How are you and Joyce? Have a great week.
Hello, Sarah! We are doing well, thank you! Nice to see you!
@@ModelTrainOutsider Thank you. Danny and I are just glad that the extreme summer conditions seem to be over and that we don't have any hurricanes headed this way. Have a great week.
Just so you know Märklin Produced another British locomotive the British warship class in the 1960. Best wishes Eric
Thanks for the information!
Also before World War II Märklin produced several British locomotives. Please note: the 39968 is not a train, it’s a locomotive 😉
Good video nice loco thanks lee
Thanks, Lee
Very nice Anthony looks great to me. I wouldn't know about colour or anything else on a steam loco as im more diesel/ electric. The thing is Anthony if you like it then thats all that matters in my opinion. Very good atb Andy
Hello Andy! Thanks for joining in and commenting. Obviously, all that matters if I like it, but there is an agenda here. Some of us are hoping Märklin will get enough positive feedback on this to dare to try another UK train. In our AC/3-Rail world, there are trains from many, many countries- mostly Central and Northern Europe and a few from the USA. It is nigh impossible to get UK trains in HO 3-Rail, so this model needs to succeed it there is to be more. Anyhow, always wishing you the best! CHeers!
I kinda wished they made one in lner green
I think they went with the anniversary edition as more likely to appeal to a broader audience. It is not out of the realm of possibility, even if unlikely, that they could do a repaint in another livery. They just did that with an American ES44 unit, which they released in Union Pacific yellow, but have now just announced a Kansas City-Southern version. This is a very odd choice to me, as it is a much smaller line, but the UP versions are selling out very quickly. Usually when Märklin do American models, they go for the big names, often Union Pacific, to have a wide sales base. Hence, doing the 100th edition of the Scotsman allows them to test a UK loco with the widest possible appeal. As it has already sold out its run from the factory, I am hoping it may encourage more UK HO.
They will milk this loco with as many versions as possible. I already have 3 versions of the French EST13 loco, and the third one is waiting for the matching Edelweiss express train…
@@tomsmaerklintrainlayout6742 In this case, I am not sure. They can do it with French, Swiss, German, even US models, because they have the market. A special anniversary edition of the Scotsman is going to appease HO fans who want a UK train, will an LMS or GWR or BR version sell as well? I don't know. I am just hoping the success of this model might lead to some nice coaches, but we will see.
very good video on this model. overall Marklin have done a good job. The only this that's not quite right is the funnel its a bit too tall.
I am assuming the stack is bigger to accommodate the smoking unit for safety. Otherwise, I am not sure why it would be off, although the Scotsman has had a few changes over its lifespan. I can look through pics to see, but I prefer to hear from the folks who know!
Hi. A shame they didn’t do this in 00 gauge. Although the colour is very pale and wrong shade and the chimney looks the wrong size. Traction tyres on a metal loco? Why? And what would they be like to replace? Cheers. Dave.
Replacing traction tires would not be advisable, but not harder than replacing them on any steam loco. Even though metal, like all companies, they use less metal... more alloy, thinner plates, so modern locos tend not to have the weight of those 30-40 years ago. They have to save production cost, as well as make space for the modern tech. Depending on one's take... it is either an acceptable trade-off, or a sign of how things are just not made the way they used to be. As a newcomer to the hobby, I am non-plussed about traction tires myself, but I respect veterans who do not like them.
@@ModelTrainOutsider I’ve British steam locos made by Hornby and Bachmann, like 4472 so Pacific’s without traction tyres, plastic bodied and lighter than the Marklin model that can pull a full rake of coaches. Traction tyres will fail through use and leave residue on the track. Think Marklin need to move into the modern era with regards to that. Having said that, the DCC sound suite sounds great and smoke too! Would I have one? Yes, what id would run it with regarding coaches, goodness knows as no stick to match that HO size.
If they did this in OO, it would be , well, OO. Which would be a shame. Finally a British 16.5mm gauge model that runs on the correct track. Agree with the chimney but now issues with traction tyres. Mine isTrix.
I dont think it will make much of a impact in the uk model world because all the stuff there is oo so its kinda of a lionel situation
Oh, there is no way it will make an impact in the UK at all. OO is too entrenched and other factors. The discussion is whether this might start US or continental companies making some UK models. A lot of guys on continental Europe have wanted some UK stock in HO. OO just looks odd on layouts in HO, although many North Americans and Europeans just do it to run some UK stock. The greater issue is for those of us who do 3-Rail and want UK stock, because, unless one buys old Hornby or Tri-Ang 3-Rail (which is not always compatible and is pure analog), there is nothing. Odds are this is a one-off, but if sales and demand are high, then maybe someone will try another... like Mallard or such. There is definitely a demand for UK stock in HO OUTSIDE of the UK... maybe this will be a small stone to start an avalanche.
@@ModelTrainOutsiderI hope so. I would love proper scale.
@@rodimussupreme2329 As long as you're okay with the color being wrong. LOL
I have been on the flying Scotsman twice and it is not accurate as i thought it would look
I think the color is the big issue, looking at comparative pictures. Fantastic loco, but the UK folks are split... some are hating it, some think it is quite nice. I have no dog in the hunt. It is a grand UK loco in HO and 3Rail, meaning I can finally run some British stock on my layout!
I would say that the copper pipe work alongside the smokebox is far too heavy or to thick. And like CasetjonesNumber1 has already sad the chimney is hideosly ugly, it againlike the copper pipework is too large, it over scale. Did they not bother to do some proper research? They could have gone over to England a arranged to see the real locomotive, and got permission to take mesurments etc. And NO golden colours ever, the gold plated models are just stupid. No real locomotive ever had any gold parts on them
Actually, Märklin did send a team over and do it. Some things, even in OO models versions have to be modified for production and display. Looking at the current stacks, it is not that far off, and might possible be to accommodate the smoker unit for safety regulations or such. No model will ever completely recreate the exact thing and certain folks will always find flaws. That is why I am enjoying hearing all sides, especially from UK modelers. I mean, let's face it, OO scale are flawed from the start using HO gauge track. Thank you for the feedback... just remember, I did not design nor make it, and I am not a "train/model expert." I am just a guy who likes to run model trains, especially Central European ones that I have ridden on in my travels. I never grew up with trains or paid attention to them until I was 50 years old.
You can get very accurate replicas of anything, but when you scale down some shapes, they do not look right in the model. I’ve been collecting model cars for over 50 years in all scales, and some of the exactly scaled down versions just don’t look right.
What an absolutely hideously ugly chimney! Where the heck did they get THAT from? Also, flashing red light on the front buffer beam? Only if running in reverse and there's nothing behind it (in which case there wouldn't be the two white 'express passenger' lamps on the buffer beam either - they are only likely to be there in the forward direction (other front lamp positions are possible, depending on the type of train being hauled). Unless Marklin produce any other H0 British rolling stock to go with this, really, what is the point of this model?
The flashing red light is not a permanent thing, I just turned on all the functions, so you could recreate it as need be. As far as the chimney/smokestacks, looking at some current iterations, I do not see them as being THAT far off, but purists will take note. As I mentioned to someone else, ALL models, even OO make compromises to accommodate design, safety and more. The stacks may be off to accommodate safety regulations for the smoker unit inside. There will always be something off. Märklin did send designers over and get measurements, and just like any model, for durability or design issues, certain adjustments are made. It is curious to see the reactions from my UK friends who range in their reviews from "excellent" to "great, but the stack is off a bit" to others who are completely enraged. That right there tells you. Let the rivet counter battles begin. Now, folks not of my channel are voicing views, which I also appreciate. lol Märklin is not trying to take over the OO market, they are celebrating a legendary loco on a historic milestone and answering a call from 3-Rail HO fans to have some UK stock, as the OO stuff is not 3-Rail nowadays, and OO is too awkward a difference on HO layouts. Many North Americans and Continentals do run OO (the 2-Rail HO guys, that is) because they have no choice. We 3-Railers do not even have that option, as it is all 2-Rail stock, except for older UK models.
So again, the point of this model was 1. to celebrate the 100th anniversary of, arguably, the most famous loco name in the world. 2. (Possibly) To test the waters with a UK HO train (especial in 3-Rail, which Märklin is, if you didn't know). Whether additional running stock will be made available is unknown at this time. The model has sold out its production run which may inspire Märklin to try others. Some folks do just like to collect locos for display. As I mentioned, in both North America and continental Europe, there is a clamoring for UK. The continental companies like Märklin, Piko, Roco, Brawa, Mehano, ACME and others do make North American stock as well as European stock for their markets. The UK stuff has been avoided because it is assumed that only UK people want it and OO rules that market. However, on the continental clubs and forums which I am a member, there has been a desire for HO UK stock. Now, maybe some UK folks may have a "how dare they..." attitude, but Märklin is, in my opinion, testing the waters. So, the unit is not designed to sell in the UK; especially this one, as it is 3-Rail, but rather in the continental and NA markets, as they also made a 2-rail version under their "TRIX" brand name.
The last time we saw an H0 scale British outline model train was back in the late 1970's, with the Rivarossi 'Royal Scot' and a couple of maroon LMS passenger cars. It bombed, mainly because of the odd choice of scale. British outline - 00 gauge - is 4mm to the foot, or 1/76th scale. H0 is 3.5mm to the foot, 1/87th scale. The two scales side by side look ridiculous. This model, whose UK price is as yet uncertain, is incorrect in a number of points, mainly with the choice of a dull paint-job. The real loco has a Rolls-Royce-like high gloss finish, as you can see on any number of movies here in RUclips. Not for me, thank you.
I am familiar with the scale sizes- proportions and ratios. As I run Central European HO in 3-Rail/AC mode, it is usually not an issue. However, my travels in the UK had me pick up a couple OO trains which I run on the floor, as they are analog in DC/2-Rail and will not work on my train table. However, I would love to have some UK trains in 3-Rail on my upper layout, and this was a first in many, many years. Despite getting the color wrong as a dull coat (Märklin does not do gloss coats on any models for some reason, despite being industry leader). I think the smokestack issue is overblown (pardon the pun). In any case, it is a fantastic running model, and it is HO, so having an HO UK locomotive, especially the most famous steamer in the world, and having it in 3-rail/AC is all win for me. I am not trying to sell this to anyone. Märklin is not trying to sell to the UK market, as it is all OO there. They are merely trying to honor the Scotsman's 100th birthday and answer a call by HO enthusiasts around the world who want UK stock in HO, because, as you said, OO just looks wrong with HO. Many of us are hopeful that the sales (this has sold out at factory) will encourage more attempts... and maybe even get the color right. lol