The #1 Reason 4.0 Pickleball Players Struggle (And How To Fix It!)

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  • Опубликовано: 3 фев 2025

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  • @tanner.pickleball
    @tanner.pickleball  3 дня назад +5

    🔥Play with the same paddles I use! For a limited time grab the CRBN¹ TF Genesis and use code ‘TAN10’ for a discount! crbnpickleball.com/products/crbn-pickleball-trufoam-genesis-paddle-1

  • @tomski1111
    @tomski1111 3 дня назад +30

    I laughed out loud when you yelled mom.

  • @kathybell4878
    @kathybell4878 3 дня назад +28

    Maybe you should have just said "I'll play you singles while my mom continues to video" 🤣I like the live commentary!!

  • @johnnyguy9442
    @johnnyguy9442 3 дня назад +19

    Such a great format!! More of these please

  • @RealJamesBond007
    @RealJamesBond007 2 дня назад +10

    Tanner love your feedback and coaching! This is definitely not 4.0 for Texas though, especially DFW/Austin

    • @tanner.pickleball
      @tanner.pickleball  2 дня назад +1

      You got it! I know every region has different levels and skill sets, I was just talking general 4.0!

    • @woodsonsanders1112
      @woodsonsanders1112 День назад +2

      @@tanner.pickleball the woman was at least a half Dupr point higher than all of the guys.

  • @DannyBPlays
    @DannyBPlays 2 дня назад +4

    I'm so glad you mentioned the dink footwork at the end, I was gonna go crazy if you didn't point it out

  • @josepinchero
    @josepinchero 2 дня назад +4

    the last game was actually really helpful to watch. watching a really good player like Tanner grabbing easy points vs 4.0s is helpful...it helps show me what "could be" easier if i just hustled a bit more and improved technique. thanks

  • @mulletshizzle
    @mulletshizzle 3 дня назад +28

    Shes the best player there!

    • @jenniferthompson761
      @jenniferthompson761 3 дня назад +5

      I agree! Better technique and shot selection from her!

    • @tanner.pickleball
      @tanner.pickleball  3 дня назад +2

      She’s great!!

    • @hk6474
      @hk6474 2 дня назад +1

      Agreed. Tanners mom is a beast on the court.

    • @obi-wankenobigoat
      @obi-wankenobigoat День назад

      The only 4.0 out there. The others 3.5 I guess senior 4.0

  • @mikeoliver861
    @mikeoliver861 2 дня назад +3

    This video was extremely helpful. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Tanner is the best online pickleball guru!

  • @brenguy333
    @brenguy333 3 дня назад +4

    this was wholesome content, also funny when you yelled "MOM!"

  • @guyrestivo
    @guyrestivo 2 дня назад +4

    fun fun video!!Fracesca has some serious skill with her aggression and both 1H and 2H Backhands

  • @perspicaciousfrog
    @perspicaciousfrog 3 дня назад +4

    dude watching you play is awesome! your movement is amazing

  • @ayang315
    @ayang315 3 дня назад +4

    This is sooooo perfect. I absolutely loved it. More please!

  • @Brent-wa
    @Brent-wa 2 дня назад +3

    Great stuff, need more of these breakdowns. Thank you!

  • @MrPanthers23
    @MrPanthers23 3 дня назад +4

    Love this format. Thank you.

  • @t81629
    @t81629 3 дня назад +2

    At 1:10 you said, "everytime there's a short return your partner should drive it". What if the ball is low? I thought 'if it's low, go slow', meaning shots below the knee at the transition zone, you'd want to do a drop shot.
    Awesome format. You are a good coach / teacher. Very helpful insights.

    • @tanner.pickleball
      @tanner.pickleball  2 дня назад +2

      Thanks! Only if the ball is high and short, otherwise drop, in the examples they were high!

  • @errettatv5690
    @errettatv5690 День назад +3

    Hey Tanner! After using the triform for a while, have you noticed any breaks in with the paddle? Did the sound change over time or anything like that? Also, do you use one overgrip over the stock grip? Thinking about buying it and using your code based on what you say. Thanks!

    • @tanner.pickleball
      @tanner.pickleball  День назад

      Thanks!! I have not had any break, and there is no break-in. From day one it is good to go. The sound did not change for me personally. I use the grip that is already on the paddle, then I put a CRBN overgrip over that and adjust it as necessary.

    • @errettatv5690
      @errettatv5690 5 часов назад

      @@tanner.pickleball thank you

  • @sheilakelly5812
    @sheilakelly5812 2 дня назад +1

    Tanner, this is likely your most useful format video ever. Those pointers will now stick. Replay and red arrows did the trick!.

  • @dmills7375
    @dmills7375 3 дня назад +2

    Excellent video Tanner. More of these please. Personally I get more out of seeing everyday players (like me) play and learning from their mistakes than I do out of analyzing professional matches (who have skills I’ll probably never have).
    Oh, and you should be ashamed of yourself telling your mom “it’s okay, you’re not going to hit many balls.” 🤣🤣🤣

  • @gseacat
    @gseacat 3 дня назад +2

    Great video! This is so helpful because I don’t know the mistakes I make that I need to improve but this showed them live and the correction for it!!

  • @claudenormandeau9211
    @claudenormandeau9211 5 часов назад

    Best video for coaching i have seen in a long time.
    Thank you

  • @mikb277
    @mikb277 2 дня назад +2

    I feel liike a def level up after 4.0 is more out of air attacks and backhand flicks/rolls. This was a fun watch!

  • @MaoKhan
    @MaoKhan 2 дня назад +1

    awesome stuff! i would have paid for this content a year ago on my pb journey, you're a good man

  • @vincek7227
    @vincek7227 3 дня назад +2

    Love these live lessons

  • @tanjaomeara4378
    @tanjaomeara4378 3 дня назад +1

    This was fun and great to see tips while a match is happening, very helpful. I guess I'm too new because I wasn't fully sure what you were pointing out I think around 2:45 😂

  • @annegardner7925
    @annegardner7925 3 дня назад +1

    This was very helpful AND a lot of fun to watch!

  • @kristene.8269
    @kristene.8269 3 дня назад +1

    Love this Tanner!

  • @SarahArnoldTheAccidentalArtist
    @SarahArnoldTheAccidentalArtist 2 дня назад +1

    Loved many elements of this!

  • @818deuteronomy
    @818deuteronomy 15 часов назад +1

    Awesome idea and insight!

  • @Someonewhocares4u
    @Someonewhocares4u 2 дня назад +1

    This was a fun video and I learned a bit from! Good job Tanners Mom!

  • @shannonatkinson4444
    @shannonatkinson4444 День назад +1

    You definitely have to do way more of these people love them, and my wife watch them together

  • @maggikriger9665
    @maggikriger9665 2 дня назад +1

    I got a lot of that. Please do more of those. At the 4.0 level (for players like me) and the 3.5 level to help me think about those I coach.
    Thank you!

  • @86309
    @86309 3 дня назад +1

    yes more like this please, the little strategy tips are great ! Tanner you know , we dont !!

  • @M0stlyHarmless9
    @M0stlyHarmless9 3 дня назад +4

    The scream at 9:56 got me

  • @HeyItsMattBell
    @HeyItsMattBell 3 дня назад +2

    This was great, Tanner! Does Francesca have tennis background? Sure looks that way :) Maybe just more of your coaching?

    • @tanner.pickleball
      @tanner.pickleball  3 дня назад +1

      She’s never played tennis!

    • @HeyItsMattBell
      @HeyItsMattBell 2 дня назад

      @@tanner.pickleball that’s awesome! I just ask because she has very natural looking footwork and strokes…like she’s been doing it a long time!

  • @robertjackson8790
    @robertjackson8790 День назад

    Great video! Great content! Will you be doing more of these? And if so, is there any way to be considered for your next video? I would love some live pointers and in-person coaching. And also a chance to get a True Foam paddle. 😂

  • @Alliver_pickleball
    @Alliver_pickleball 3 дня назад +2

    these are good tips! will use this in my game!

  • @JasonStallcup
    @JasonStallcup 2 дня назад +1

    Question about what you said in the Coach's Corner: you said that you speed up down the line when you get dead dinks out wide and the opponent doesn't have a Twoey Backhand, correct? So, you are saying to hit your forehand at their BH down the line?

    • @tanner.pickleball
      @tanner.pickleball  2 дня назад +1

      Yes! It doesn't matter if its my (players) forehand or backhand, just when you see the opponent has their backhand down the line (left side player) speed the ball up down the line when you get the chance

  • @micaiasr.madera5053
    @micaiasr.madera5053 3 дня назад +1

    Good video idea. Do more of these. I take notes and will apply.

  • @davidknapp4491
    @davidknapp4491 2 дня назад +1

    Good job. I will review at slower speed as there is a lot to see and process . Any comments on the low paddle position when players at the NVZ line?

    • @tanner.pickleball
      @tanner.pickleball  2 дня назад

      Thanks, excited for you to rewatch! I would say it can be higher, but there were more blaring weaknesses I wanted to address first!

  • @KM-cv5px
    @KM-cv5px 2 дня назад +1

    This was great!

  • @sonyabramlage1766
    @sonyabramlage1766 День назад +1

    That court is fabulous along with the house. How do you find someone who is knowledgable about building a pickleball court? We have plenty of space for one. Thank you for the lesson.

  • @programr2b
    @programr2b 14 часов назад +1

    great playing. I would agree the girl is pretty close to a 4.0, if not a 4.0. great finesse on ball to paddle contact and court positioning.

  • @HeavyAndLow
    @HeavyAndLow 3 дня назад +5

    The difference between 4.0 and 6.0 is massive.

  • @Ternary5
    @Ternary5 3 дня назад +1

    Love it, thanks for this!

  • @donkeyhunter007
    @donkeyhunter007 2 дня назад +5

    i love it when the best player on the court is a woman!

  • @JeffMurphy
    @JeffMurphy 7 часов назад

    Is Francesca looking for a mixed duo?! She’s a beast!

  • @karenito4182
    @karenito4182 3 дня назад +1

    This is the best video clip!

  • @randallmcmanus
    @randallmcmanus 3 дня назад +3

    The gal could be a 4.0. The guys are solid 3.0- 3.5. I'm a 3.5 at best on a good day,.. and they don't intimidate me at all. I play against guys every day who would smoke these guys.

    • @GrantLowman
      @GrantLowman 2 дня назад +2

      I was thinking the same thing, their area might not be as competitive compared to where you’re located. Might skew their rating.

    • @tanner.pickleball
      @tanner.pickleball  2 дня назад +1

      Ahh it must be area dependent, they're great players!

    • @obi-wankenobigoat
      @obi-wankenobigoat День назад

      @@tanner.pickleballDupr is area dependent? I thought it was based on skill, the shot selection and shot execution and court positioning was that of a 3.5 at the highest.

  • @aikaterinimak
    @aikaterinimak 3 дня назад +2

    The “MOM!!!” sent me 😂😂😂

  • @DenverBrad
    @DenverBrad 2 дня назад +1

    I’d like to see more of these.

  • @andychen8627
    @andychen8627 3 дня назад +3

    You should have video showing how to partner with weaker player and win strategy.

  • @PickleballPeon
    @PickleballPeon 2 дня назад +2

    That woman in the 4.0 group was pretty solid

  • @stevecrawford333
    @stevecrawford333 2 дня назад +1

    You should do a video where you bring out people from the comments who say "3.0 at best" and let them prove themselves for prizes hahahaha

    • @tanner.pickleball
      @tanner.pickleball  2 дня назад

      Hahahahaah

    • @obi-wankenobigoat
      @obi-wankenobigoat День назад

      I’m game 🙋‍♂️ $1000 on the line to win by 8 or more. And that’s not even to diss those players but 4.0? there’s no way.

  • @francescadicolandrea7228
    @francescadicolandrea7228 2 дня назад +1

    Woah!! So fun :)

  • @jamesf1525
    @jamesf1525 2 дня назад +1

    Pretty good soft game. Better than many.

  • @Dedread
    @Dedread 3 дня назад +1

    There were a lot of short serves. Was there a lot of wind that day?

  • @MrBrad777c
    @MrBrad777c 3 дня назад +3

    Loved the formst! Loved Mom!

  • @downwinder3
    @downwinder3 День назад

    So excited.....after watching these "4.0" players... apparently Tanner would think I am 5.0. SMH

  • @aaronsegal1682
    @aaronsegal1682 2 дня назад +1

    Need Tanner to coach me. More videos like this.

  •  3 дня назад +1

    will there be video from India?

  • @amberisafarmer
    @amberisafarmer День назад

    I can be your friend and when you come to the PPA Red Rock (Utah) You can make another video like this with me and my friends at my home court! 😊

  • @stevecrawford333
    @stevecrawford333 2 дня назад +2

    The chick is a beast very nice

  • @gc66lucky
    @gc66lucky 4 часа назад

    I think that young lady played better than the rest 3 guys not including you 😅😂 and she deserved a new paddle lol

  • @shargogo8876
    @shargogo8876 3 дня назад +1

    like this video. very helpful

  • @Hazard76
    @Hazard76 День назад +1

    he using diadem 18k same one i use

  • @dianenaylor
    @dianenaylor 2 дня назад +1

    If your pal who owns the home/court ever decides to do Air BnB, let me know! 😍😉

  • @Itsezpickleball
    @Itsezpickleball 3 дня назад +1

    Need to send this to my mom

  • @DDGGVVMM
    @DDGGVVMM 3 дня назад +2

    Seems like she's the only 4.0 on the court.

  • @JasmineApple
    @JasmineApple 3 дня назад +2

    This was awesome!! I know you give great advice, but to see you actually play??? I would NOT wanna be lookin' at you across the net!! Good video - your mom was a great sport!!

    • @tanner.pickleball
      @tanner.pickleball  3 дня назад

      Thanks for the kind words! It was a fun match to film!

  • @ktthao5224
    @ktthao5224 3 дня назад +1

    great points made in the game play. you mentioned that they practice and drill a few times a week. Maybe its how they drill and their mind set when they drill that is preventing them from improving. If you practice something a hundred times doesn't make it right, it means you hit it 100 times wrong. My wrestling coach use to tell me practice doesn't make perfect, perfect practice makes perfect. take that with a grain of salt of course.

    • @tanner.pickleball
      @tanner.pickleball  3 дня назад

      That’s a great point! It’s not just about the quantity of practice, but the quality.

  • @froggyjm9
    @froggyjm9 2 дня назад +2

    If this is 4.0 I must be 6.0

    • @13Namk
      @13Namk 2 дня назад

      yep was thinking the same the rating in the US is weird because 4.0 level is for advanced players who can consistently hit shots like drop shots and volleys and these guys can barely hit a 3rd shot drop, they look more like 3.0 players to me

    • @tanner.pickleball
      @tanner.pickleball  2 дня назад

      They're great players!!

    • @stevecrawford333
      @stevecrawford333 2 дня назад

      come on, they realistically play sound pickleball with less athleticism. Thats 4.0 all day.. 4.5 is where sound pickleball with athleticism. 5.0 is mastery. 5.5 is pro You're making the scale too wide.

    • @froggyjm9
      @froggyjm9 2 дня назад

      @ the scale is made up anyways, everything is self reported.

    • @obi-wankenobigoat
      @obi-wankenobigoat День назад

      @@stevecrawford333sound pickleball? That’s a lot of mistakes for sound pickleball.

  • @DanKaschel
    @DanKaschel 2 дня назад +1

    The real lesson is in the comments: 4.0s think they look a lot better on the court than they really do 😂

    • @tanner.pickleball
      @tanner.pickleball  2 дня назад +1

      This was a great match haha!

    • @DanKaschel
      @DanKaschel 2 дня назад

      @tanner.pickleball I'm 4.0 myself so it might be dumb to opine, but I think one thing that holds my bracket back is not understanding what increases our chance of winning (e.g. taking advantage of short returns) vs. what just feels good (e.g. high risk speedups).
      Then we see a game that doesn't have as many flashy, high risk plays and think "pshh they're barely 3.5" because it doesn't contain the things that make us *feel* like a good player (even though it's holding us back).
      The same dynamic applies to most competitive skills, I think.

    • @obi-wankenobigoat
      @obi-wankenobigoat День назад

      Senior 4.0 maybe, not real 4.0 that’s 3.5 maximum for in shape people

    • @DanKaschel
      @DanKaschel День назад

      @@obi-wankenobigoat thanks for illustrating

  • @goldbug1180
    @goldbug1180 3 дня назад +1

    Wtf Tanner’s been lifting

  • @RegalOrb
    @RegalOrb День назад

    1:38 Don't believe his lies

  • @juanon8696
    @juanon8696 3 дня назад +1

    4.0’s? 🤔

  • @claycc79
    @claycc79 3 дня назад

    You don't drive a short low return.

  • @CyberSonic157
    @CyberSonic157 3 дня назад

    Good video, but click baity incorrect title.

    • @tanner.pickleball
      @tanner.pickleball  3 дня назад +1

      The video was centered around not approaching the kitchen line properly to effectively apply pressure on weak returns. There were multiple examples of that. Then the female, Francesca did it the correct way for the viewer to see the benefits of it.

    • @CyberSonic157
      @CyberSonic157 3 дня назад

      @@tanner.pickleball Ah, gotcha. Thanks for clarifying. I guess I judged it too soon since I was hoping the "#1 mistake" would have been revealed explicitly towards the beginning of the video.

  • @mrtuanvn
    @mrtuanvn 3 дня назад +1

    Wow. Are they truely at 4.0 level? In my country, it's under 3.0... So confused now.

  • @samsullivan2280
    @samsullivan2280 3 дня назад

    4.0???

    • @tanner.pickleball
      @tanner.pickleball  3 дня назад

      Yes

    • @obi-wankenobigoat
      @obi-wankenobigoat День назад

      I just realized something they’re probably senior 4.0 and senior rating is usually inflated by .5

    • @samsullivan2280
      @samsullivan2280 День назад

      @ I’d be surprised if any of those people are above 60. Some of them look to be noticeably younger. Nonetheless, 4.0 is 4.0, or it’s supposed to be. I must have a different frame of reference.

    • @samsullivan2280
      @samsullivan2280 День назад

      @@tanner.pickleball probably just a different frame of reference for myself then. Love the job you’re doing Tanner. Match breakdowns are my favorite videos, pattern recognition, decision making, dinking pattern setups